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CURE DEMODECTIC AND SARCOPTIC MANGE Questions

Updated: 11/11/2008

CAN TED'S REMEDY BE USED AS A PREVENTATIVE?

CAN HUMANS GET MANGE?

PUPPY WITH SARCOPTIC MANGE

QUESTION ABOUT MATERIALS

QUESTIONS ABOUT TED'S REMEDIES

QUESTIONS ABOUT TED'S REMEDIES FOR MANGE

DID I DO THE CORRECT PROCEDURE?

MANGE OR SKIN CONDITION?

STRAY DOG WITH MANGE AND ENLARGED LYMPH NODES

WHERE TO BUY BORAX

SHOULD A NEWLY ADOPTED STRAY PUPPY BE SEPARATED FROM FAMILY DOG?

CAN MANGE TREATMENT BE USED DAILY?

TED'S REMEDIES - MEASUREMENT QUESTIONS

HIVES AFTER BORAX WASH ON BULL DOG

WILL MANGE TREATMENT BLEACH A PUPPY'S FUR?

MANGE IN HUMANS POSSIBLE?

RED MANGE QUESTION

HAS ANYONE USED OXI-CLEAN INSTEAD OF BORAX FOR MANGE?

WHERE TO FIND BORAX IN THAILAND

RED MANGE HELP NEEDED

MANGE CURE, BORAX, REINFECTION

IS IT MANGE OR ANOTHER FUNGAL INFECTION?

SODIUM PERBORATE MIXTURE

TOXICITY OF SODIUM PERBERATE

DISSOLVING BORAX IN PEROXIDE

RID OF THEM FOR GOOD

TED'S REMEDIES

AMINO VITAMINS FOR IMMUNE SYSTEM

CAT TREATMENT

HORSE TREATMENT

HOW OLD SHOULD PUPPIES BE?

CAN TED'S REMEDY BE USED AS A PREVENTATIVE?
11/11/2008: Lou writes: "I just wonder if i can use this borax remedy as a preventative so my dog doesn't get mange?
and if yes how often and at what puppy age can i use it? thank you"

11/12/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "A borax and hydrogen peroxide remedy can be used to take baths on a dog regularly. In event of a mange it is best to take bath everyday. Without the mange the remedy can be used just like a shampoo. Only in this case, you shampoo first, rinse, then follow this with a borax and hydrogen peroxide 1%. However, 1% may cause the fur in some dogs to be orange if the hair is black. In this case the solution is lowered to below 1% to about 0.5% to 0.75% concentration which will not effect the color of the hair.

Ted"

CAN HUMANS GET MANGE?
10/12/2008: Terri (terri63@aol.com) writes: "Is Mange contractable to Humans? Of so, how and where? (And How to get rid of it!!!) Thanks... "

10/15/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Yes some people do contract mange, for some reason or another. The remedy is still the same. The use of saturated borax in hydrogen peroxide 1%. It is applied several times a day. The skin tends to smell like rotting fresh the same as a dog.

The most painful and irritating was when mange happens in the groin area where the area smells really foul and sticky. In which case there's an additional skin infection, which appears to be a staphylococcus, which may be an opportunistic infection from the mange. While I really have no way of understanding how humans catch them, their bites may have released other forms of bacteria also, so it may not be directly be a demodectic mange, but appears to manifest themself as lupus or Morgellon's disease. In other cases the people report crawly things on their skin and some doctors think they are crazy and put on psychiatric drugs. Of course the skin condition went away, and the person was worse off with mental function effecting their jobs.

The difference in treatment of humans and dogs is humans don't have fur like a dog, so the borax and hydrogen peroxide had to to be applied several of times a day, as opposed to a dog which ideally is once a day, without rinsing.

The other thing is the opportunistic infections such as staphylococcus, sometimes becoming MRSA, especially if a person is already bedridden. Wounds can open up large enough sometimes to see the internal organs, much like ebola, although MRSA conitnues to be localized and doesn't spread as quick. People do die by the hundreds just from simple MRSA and doctor's use of standard antibiotics, which are already resistant anyway.

A very simple remedy I tesed or actually cured, at least from my own experience is the application of a 5-25% Magnesium hydroxide solution, or a simpler milk of magnesia available in most drug stores, often sold as laxatives.

Some countries don't have that and sell them only as Magnesium Hydroxide. This kills all MRSA that I know of, but then, I am only living in Bangkok and haven't visited other countries such as UK or U.S., so I have no idea of it's effectiveness. However it is soothing despite it's pH of 10, but it's the magnesium and the pH that kills staphyloccus quickly.

If the condition manifests itself as lupus or Morgellon's after a mange attack (even if the person got rid of the mange with the borax and peroxide), then it becomes the use of 1/4 teaspoon of borax in one liter of water plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of  water twice a day, to discourage their growth. The skin can really get bad where the pus just streams with open wounds, so the borax and baking soda were critical in reversing the condition. I haven't quite yet modified the remedy to perfection since person who did get it, was just happy with that and can live with it.

Ted"

PUPPY WITH SARCOPTIC MANGE
10/11/2008: Don (d.roberts@insightbb.com) writes: "I have a 4 month lab pup. I took him to the vet on his 8'th week birthday and at this time he was beginning to lose hair on the backside of all four legs from chewing to relieve the itch. He is also losing hair on his chest,tummy and flanks. He was and still has constant itching.

I told the vet on his 8 week check-up that the breeder said he had an allergy to the puppy food that contained wheat and corn. I changed his food without these additives and there was no improvement. The vet said the puppy was to young to have food allergies anyway and did a skin scrape to check for scabies that was negative.

I took the pup back to the vet a couple weeks ago and the vet said he thought he had Demodectic Mange or Sarcoptic and he had his first at that time. The wet said I was not to bath him between dips. I found this site soon after and have started him on the Hydrogen Peroxide/Borax dip that doesn't seem to helping much either.

After researching dogs with mange I feel my pup has the Sarcoptic Mange.

Most of the feedback from your readers seem to have good results with Ted's remedy on dogs with the Demodectic Mange.

With that said my questions to you is:

Should I continue with the Mitaban Dip along with the Hydrogen Peroxide/Borax dip? The vet said no baths between the Mitaban Dips.

Will the Hydrogen Peroxide/Borax dip improve the Sarcoptic Mange as well as it does on the Demodectic Mange?

Your Web site sounds very promising on improving my puppy's condition.

Thank You
Don"

QUESTION ABOUT MATERIALS
10/08/2008: Huy Nguyen writes: "I have two dogs that currently have mange; I just wanted to make sure that the borax i bought is the correct one. there is a bucket of borax for sale on ebay, it is in like a bucket, do i need the borax in a solid form or can it be in a liquidous state? do you have a place you know where i can buy this stuff; i just want to make sure so that my dogs are treated properly."

10/08/2008: Earth Clinic replies: "See this page for more information: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/borax.html"

QUESTIONS ABOUT TED'S REMEDIES
09/27/2008: Don (d.roberts@insightbb.com) writes: "Hi Ted,
I have a 4 month old lab that I believe has the SARCOPTIC mange. He is losing hair mostly on his tummy,legs and flanks from scratching and biting. The vet says he has one of the two, DEMODECTIC or SARCOPTIC mange,but he thinks it is the SARCOPTIC mange. The vet has treated my lab once with the Mitaban dip.

I gave 'Harly" his first dip with your remedy of the Borax/peroxide solution today. I mixed it to the ratio of 2 cups of 3% hydrogen peroxide mixed with 4 cups of water. Then added around 4 tablespoons of Borax.

After reading your advice and readers feedback, Im a little confused with the mix ratio and how often I should treat him with the Borax/peroxide solution. Also most of the readers feedback seems to refer to dogs with the DEMODECTIC mange.

So my questions to you are:

Am I mixing the solution at the right ratio?

Am I to apply the solution only once a week?

Does this remedy work on SARCOPTIC mange as well as it does on the DEMODECTIC mange as stated in the readers feedback?

Should I continue with the Mitaban dip at the vets clinic every two weeks at 35 dollars a dip for another 5 treatments?

Feel free to post my email and answers on the readers feedback if you like.

Thank You
Don"

DID I DO THE CORRECT PROCEDURE?
09/22/2008: Devon writes: "Hello. I have a 26lb shiba inu who has been suffering from itching and loosing hair for 3 weeks. The vet doesn't know what is causing it and we are waiting results for a fungus test he took, the vet said it'll take 2 weeks for the results! I'm going crazy watching him in so much pain and discomfort. I tried the borax remedy today for the 1st time. I just have a question if I did it right because, it seems people have been doing slightly different things. I filled the bath tub enough to only cover his paws, then added 1/2 bottle of perioxide and 3 tbsps of borax. Then I took a cup and kept filing it with the solution from the tub and poured it over him numerous times. I did not dry him or rinse him. I would like to know if I did it correctly for it to be effective. Thank you."

QUESTIONS ABOUT TED'S REMEDIES FOR MANGE
09/22/2008: Julie Donovan writes: "I have read a lot of the feedback and I have used the ivomec and it worked somewhat. In addition to the ivomec, I also used the borax and peroxide, which does work. I thought the mange was going away, but it is not. This time I will try only the borax and peroxide. If I mix a batch and don't use it all, how long does it last? If you add it to the dog's water, how much borax and how much water? "

MANGE OR SKIN CONDITION?
08/29/2008: Jeannie writes: "I just found this website so I haven't tried anything, but plan to try the peroxide/borax treatment this weekend. My cocker spaniel has not yet been diagnosed - goes to the vet next week. Her problem doesn't look anything like the pictures I see on this site. She is not a house dog, she is a yard dog. She has a large fence and a dog house. She is never aroung any other dogs. She had a very rough, dry place under her collar that I thought was just dry skin irritated by her collar. We removed her collar. The rough, dry place grew and now there's no hair, just rough, dry skin all down her neck and chest. Could this be mange? I will get a diagnosis next week I am sure but if you think it is not, can you point me in the right direction for what it might be? Thanks - our baby needs help."

STRAY DOG WITH MANGE AND ENLARGED LYMPH NODES
08/14/2008: Patricia (bklyn2u51@yahoo.com) writes: "I found this dog in the street and since february we have been taking him to the vet for these dips to help him with his mange (non contagious)Every week he gets these dips, antibiotics, penicilan -it worse, Now his lymph nodes are enlarged on the back of his legs . The dog is about 1 year old. The vet says he needs a dermotologist - I am going broke - please help me save this dog."

WHERE TO BUY BORAX
08/14/2008: Patty writes: "Please tell me where i get this borax stuff to help this dog. How come the vet never told me about this. He has those exact purple spots bumpy -HELP!"

08/18/2008: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "Hello Patty, You can get a 4 lb. box of Twenty Mule Team Borax at Walmart in laundry powder section for approx. $4. At a local grocery, the smallest one found was a 7 lb. box"

08/14/2008: Earth Clinic replies: "Please read the following pages for more information:
Borax Cures
Ted's Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Cure for Mange"

SHOULD A NEWLY ADOPTED STRAY PUPPY BE SEPARATED FROM FAMILY DOG?
08/10/2008: Peggy (peggy.patrick(at)gmail.com) writes: "I recently took in a stray and found out it had mange. It had been playing with my 3 year old dog. I bought Revolution and treated both pets. The vet said she didn't find the mites but there was evidence of probable scabies. He did have that smell to him. My dogs love to play with each other. One is an indoor dog and the new one is an outside puppy (almost 4 months old). They were treated this past Friday and are wanting to play with each other. Is this safe or do they need to be separated for a longer period. What can I do to protect my indoor dog and my family from contracting this mange/scabies?"

CAN MANGE TREATMENT BE USED DAILY?
07/06/2008: Susie (pinfriend@comcast.net) writes: "I have just started using the borax/hydrogen peroxide treatment for my daughter's 6 monthly old white french bull dog. She is losing hair over a lot of her body and has areas on her face and under her legs where it looks like she has been bitten. Can I use this treatment daily? Also, we are in a hot, humid climate; does mange get worse if she goes outside? She enjoys going out in the sun, though we are careful that she doesn't get overheated. Thanks for any help."

HIVES AFTER BORAX WASH ON BULL DOG
06/25/2008: Cheryl writes: "I gave my two year old bull dog a wipe down with a wash cloth & the "borax wash" for mites. The next day he had hives all down one side of him. Is he allergic to the borax? I gave him benadryl it seems to be getting better. Used 3 cups water, 3 tablespoons borax, and 1/2 cup peroxide."

07/06/2008: Sam from West Palm Beach, Florida replies: "My rescued puppy has demo mange with redness around the top of her head and neck and splotches elsewere. After her first (and only) treatment, she also broke out in something like hives and was actally bleeding from the neck. She's not shown anything like this since I've had her. PLEASE ...Does anyone have any feedback?"

07/09/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "A hive reaction may occur if the concentration of Hydrogen peroxide 3% was only mixed without the use of water. Either that or borax was not fully dissolved. The concentration of hydrogen peroxide should be 1% concentration or less and borax should be well dissolved followed by application of the solution without rinse. If the solution was rinsed, the mange will spread causing the redness. On the other hand if borax wasn't dissolve in the solution well, it won't kill the red mange. Borax is what kills the mange, and if it is not well dissolve the mange spreads further. Secondly, the solution had to be applied everyday, without rinse. Excessive concentration of Hydrogen peroxide beyond 1% may also cause skin irritation. The only problem I see about problems with borax is that the borax source didn't come from a detergent type use (10 mule team borax), but came from a borax used for metal work, which are generally contaminated, this appears unlikely, but I have noted that there is a problem borax used in metal found and sold in Eastern Europe.

A 1% concentration of hydrogen peroxide is 1/2 cup peroxide 3% plus 1 cup of water should get a 1% solution plus the borax well dissolved or well stirred. It takes about 15 minutes for the borax to properly dissolved, and they do dissolve much slower in colder weather so a lukewarm water is preferable. If the peroxide found contains too many stabilizers it might cause problem, although it is unlikely since it is used for external use only.

Therefore I would try a 1% concentration hydrogen peroxide (with water diluting this) with borax well dissolved, then apply on the dog without any rinse. Borax won't cause hives unless the mange has spread and the borax was not properly dissolved or that after application the dog was rinsed after application, which would have defeat its purpose. Therefore I won't rinse after application, followed by a daily application.

Ted"

TED'S REMEDIES - MEASUREMENT QUESTIONS
06/25/2008: Dorthy (ky_gal_27@hotmail.com) writes: "Hello again. I had just sent a email to you all and noticed that I had used 500ml's of 3% hydrogen with borax. I am going to restate my questions. Sorry. I need to know exactly how to mix it and use it and how long I need to continue to use it(once a week or for 3days a week). I have a jack russell and mountain fiest mix. I noticed he has the mange. Most of his hair is gone on half of its back and tail. He bites at his feet and he has it around his eyes. When I watch him scratch he scratches till he bleeds. He smells like something dead. When I watch him I just tear up. I have not the money to take him to the vet right now. I know it is the mange, and it may seem bad of me to not take him to the vet. When I used the measurements that I gave you it didn't work he contiued to scratch. When I poured the solution over his body he didn't seemed to mind. I kept it on him till he air dried. He didn't itch till he got dry. I really need some help on the measurement cause I don't think I mixed it right. So do you think you can send me the exact measurements so I can help my poor baby.

Sincerely,
Dorthy"

WILL MANGE TREATMENT BLEACH A PUPPY'S FUR?
06/23/2008: Becky writes: "I have a black great dane puppy, took het to the vet and he said she has puppy mange. What i need to know is will your remedy for mange bleach her fur? And if yes how long will her fur be bleached? Thanks. Becky"

06/24/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Becky: In a borax added to a 1% hydrogen peroxide remedy for mange, it will cause the fur to become orange after a couple of applications. The effect is not permanent, as new hair will grow to replace them, but it won't cause the fur to be white as 1% H2O2 is not strong enough. However, if some people do not desire the slight orange tinge on the hair, then another weaker formulation, between 0.5% for example won't cause this discoloring issue, but its effectiveness in mange is also reduced with the lower concentration."

MANGE IN HUMANS POSSIBLE?
06/12/2008: Mary writes: "re: Mange in humans. Hello. Our dog had a red crusty belly with hair loss before he died at 15. Soon after, I had itching, red scalp and pustules with hair dropping out. I also had this itching, redness and pustules on chest, upper arms and top of my back. I felt like I could feel something itchy on my forehead. I know this sounds nuts.After repeatedly being misdiagnosed, I tried your remedy. It seems to help a bit. Really dries my hair out. Is it possible I have caught this from my dog. We have a new pup. Will she catch this. Any particular advice for humans? Of yes, I bought a microscope and the itchy spots had these cigar shaped tubular things. What do I need to do to get rid of this?? Permanently and get my hair rowing back faster..."

06/23/2008: bdette from vallejo, ca replies: "Yes it is, mange is scabies its mites that lives under your skin. actually some mange you can catch from your pet. as far as your question human get this same thing its just called something different its called "scabies"."

RED MANGE QUESTION
06/09/2008: Nadine writes: "I have a 6month old Boston Terrier and she has red mange. We have been treating it for 4 months now thru our vet, which has been a horrible experience. She has had mitaban dips which almost killed her, Ivermectin injections that made her very ill. I have been trying the borax and perioxide treatment on her now. But I have to tell you she is very bad. she has almost no hair and is one giant oozing bleeding scab. I would just like to find something to save her life. my vet wants to put her to sleep. but I just can't. I have been trying this treatment for a little more than a week now and see some improvment. I would like to know if there is something more I can do. I do this treatment according to your directions. I also add ACV to treatment. I give her vitamins and Omega3's and I cook all her food to make sure she gets good nutrition. Please let me know if I need to do anything else.I love my dog very much and I made a promise to help her I just can't let her die."

HAS ANYONE USED OXI-CLEAN INSTEAD OF BORAX FOR MANGE?
06/07/2008: Catherine writes: "Mange Remedies: I was wondering if anyone has ever used Oxi-Clean instead of Borax? If so does it work? Or should I make a trip to the store for the Borax? Please also tell me exact measurements."

06/26/2008: Chastity from Knoxville, TN replies: "Did you find out anything on this? I couldn't find any Borax but I did find an all purpose detergent with Sodium Perbate in it but I don't know if it's ok to use this."

WHERE TO FIND BORAX IN THAILAND
06/01/2008: Janie writes: "I am not sure if my dog has mange but I believe so. I live in Thailand in the North and want to try your hydrogen peroxide solution and borax treatment. Have you any idea where I can buy borax/what it is called in Thai? I imagine I can get the hydrogen peroxide in the pharmacy.
I feel terrible because someone gave me some vetinary solution for the skin problem and it doesn't seem to be getting better, it's getting worse. I have another dog that doesn't have it; does this mean it may be something else, because I thought mange was super contagious?
 thank you.... Janie"

06/04/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Mange is somewhat contagious, especially during the rainy season, but not super contagious. In Bangkok I buy hydrogen peroxide from a chemical supplier that is a chemical grade 50% from Vittayasom on Rajdamnern Road. Then i have to dilute them myself. Borax can easily be obtained B.P. grade also from the same place, or other competing chemical supplier in that same area."

RED MANGE HELP NEEDED
05/21/2008: Mel writes: "Oh I hope someone could help me with my sitution.. My dog, (she's 1 1/2 years) started to bite, lick. scratch herself so bad. The vet has put her on a number of things,first it was food allergy, then it was yeast.. she's been on predozone, special shampoos you name it.. They now want to put her on Atopica for skin allergies. I saw this web site and wonder if she has red mange.. I'm not sure what it really looks like. She is so red and losing hair everyday due to her chewing herself raw. Do you think this solution would hurt her condition if it's not mange?? She also had her rabbies boster during this whole episode and things really got worse. I lost hope with the vet they don't seem to know how to help her.. Everyone's comments made me feel excited to try it and help this poor girl out.. can you help shed some more light on the subject.. I'm very curious."

05/23/2008: Joyce from Joelton, Tn replies: "I believe you will find Ted's recommendation for Borax mange cure on Earth Clinic."

MANGE CURE, BORAX, REINFECTION
05/05/2008: Jody Zacaroli writes: "Dear Ted, I am another dog owner whom has tried several cures for mange..... Question #1 Do I have to dry the dog after her bath before I put on the treatment? I know that I do not dry off the treatment. Question #2 Do I have to bathe her prior to every treatment? (I have two large breed dogs, so it is a process) Question 3#Our whole neighborhood has been infected due to an increase in fox, should I consider finding my dogs new homes? I just don't know how I am going to keep them from reinfection. My heart is breaking!"

IS IT MANGE OR ANOTHER FUNGAL INFECTION?
03/14/2008: S writes: "

We are a family of four who have been'living in the Sultanate of Oman for over 20 years.  Since my youngest daughter (now 16) is an avid animal lover we bought Caesar a yellow labrador for her. Caesar was born in Muscat, Oman and has been with us for four years now.  In May 2007 my younger daughter and I relocated to our hometown Mangalore in South India.  We decided to bring down Caesar with us and there were a lot of problems in the process.  First he was removed from the animal cargo compartment of Gulf Air at Muscat Airport just before takeoff as the pilot was told there was not enough oxygen there. He was then put on the next flight to Bahrain and was kept somewhere in Bahrain airport until early next morning until they put him on a flight to India.  All this time he was in a cage (a first time for him).  He finally reached home at 11 pm the next night.  By the time he came home he was a complete nervous wreck, too stressed out for words.  He was also wet and trembling all over and we feel he had been constantly prodded through the cage bars with a rod cos everytime he saw something that resembled a stick or a rod he would tremble in fright.  He didnt leave our side for the next one month and even if we went to the bathroom he was waiting right outside.  I am explaining all this to you cos I want to know if all this stress led to the skin infection he developed a month after he landed here.

Initially we took him to the first vet we found who treated him for four months and administered close to 30 injections, antibiotics, creams, medicated shampoos, etc etc....all to no effect.  Sometimes the infection would lessen and then crop up again. We asked around and began to hear quite unfavourable reports about this particular vet so we dumped him immediately and sought the help of a second one who is treating him right now.  He has tried everything possible on him and most of it has been mild. 

The old wounds are healing but new ones appear in the same places and also in new areas on his skin.  There is itching and he has lost a lot of his fur which makes him look very sick and miserable.  Reading all the comments on your website I think it might be mange.  Not sure though....the vet suggested a hypoallergic diet but its difficult to get it in my hometown.  Right now we have stopped all medicines.  As per the Vets instructions we bathe him once a fortnight with a medicated shampoo leaving it on for 15 mins on his body before rinsing off.  He also has a dose of 'Glossy Coat' syrup every day and again every day we apply the skin cream 'Spectrazole' all over his raw patches.  Initially the skin is red sometimes bleeding slightly, later it turns black and flaky.  I've even tried neem oil but gave up cos it smells so strong.  It's almost a year since he got the infection and we are really desperate for some remedy that works.  Btw his diet consists of Ragi and milk in the morning, a couple of rotis for lunch or Pedigree cornflakes and a full meal of chicken and rice at night.

I'm all for trying your hydrogen peroxide and borax method.  Will try to pick it up at the pharmacy tomorrow (hope they have it).  Could you please give me the EXACT dosage to be used on Caesar.  He is fully grown at 4 years, must be weighing close to 100 kgs. I understand it has to be applied on his skin making sure all of his skin is covered and we are not supposed to rinse afterwards.  Am I right?

Before I sign off, let me tell you Ted that ur truly amazing to take the time out to help scores of people who are committed to keeping their pets healthy.  I am truly grateful to you for posting all that information on Earth Clinic and hope to hear from you very soon.  May God bless you for your selfless work.

I am sending you a few of caesars pics. I hope u will be able to tell if its mange or any other fungal infection

"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "It doesn't matter the weight for the dog as the key factor is always the concentration of the borax in hydrogen peroxide. Usually its between 2-4 tablespoon of borax in 1% hydrogen peroxide per liter of water. The borax need not be precise, it is always saturated amount of borax until it no longer dissolves itself. This has helped most of the conditions of mange. Neem oil I have tested it myself, it is too weak to work. The critical point is that the dog should be bathed everyday preferably for about a week before twice a week and once a week needed to reduce the mange. The mange is often evident by the smell as you noted after applying neem. To further kill the mange from the inside out, perhaps a 1/8 teaspoon of borax per liter of drinking water is given helps. Usually whenever the dog's immunity iis down to give dogs some partially cooked chicken and liver are the best. I used whole chickens"

TOXICITY OF SODIUM PERBERATE
03/12/2008: T writes: "that he purchased sodium perberate from an online chemical store and is wondering whether there is a toxic level for this. As he purchased it from a chemical supply, he believes it is concentrated. Is there a dilution that he should use?"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Sodium perborate toxicity is about that as of a salt. The concentration I used is about 2 tablespoonful of it in one liter of water. A sodium perborate has many names, such as sodium perborate hydrate. Usually it dissolves slowly and require some stirring, and the adding of it for external use is about that amount and applied to the dog before the thing becomes a precipitates. Cakes tend to form, but nicely if it is stuck on the dog's fur, it's effect on killing the mange will continue. Some hydrogen peroxide added can further helped too but it is one of my original formulas i still used for the dogs and I am still using it"

SODIUM PERBORATE MIXTURE
03/12/2008: S writes: "that she has ordered sodium perborate and would like to know the amount of water to combine with the sodium perborate? "

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "

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The dosage amount for sodium perborate or sodium perborate hydrate is two tablespoon per liter of water, well stirred. It can then be applied on a dog. Although people might use larger amounts say 4 liter or 6 liters, the calculations is done by just multipling the two tablespoons by 4 if you want to mixed a 4 liter one which is about 8 tablespoons well stirred. This is then used to apply the dog. Stirring is required to avoid the precipitate forming on the bottom of the bottle or pail so that it sticks some to the dog's fur to have further effect that is longer in killing off the mange."

DISSOLVING BORAX IN PEROXIDE
12/14/2007: Bill writes: "Ted, Your mange treatment of borax and peroxide works on my airedales skin problem. I can't get the borax to dissolve in the peroxide, it cakes in the bottom of the glass container and I have to keep it stirred up, however it still works. Am I doing some thing wrong. Thanks"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Bill: Nothing wrong. This is done correctly. You keep it stirred to prevent cakes from forming and poured on the dog. Some cakes maybe stuck on the dog and I allow them so the cakes will continue to kill or at least prevent reinfection. Therefore please stir much like a cement mixer before pouring on the dog, where the bottom side I used the hand to allow the solution to reach or dipping on the dog. I prefer to pour on the dog. The most important areas that is problematic is the leg, bottom area, and the bottom throat area, ears, and the face. For the area of the face and the ear area the solution need not be stired that much since I won't like borax cakes to form on the dog's face, as it blocks their vision. Most skin problems are handled with the peroxide and borax, quite well even with mites, fleas too, not just the mange condition. There will be problems that does happen when mites, fleas, ticks form a large hive and continuously reinfect the dog that requires the dog quarantined in a clean environment that is a common problem I have encountered. This also required a stronger application using 3% H2O2 and borax in the premises to kill off the hives that seems to exist for a long time.
Sometimes I see fleas, mites and ticks lined up running into the house on the unsuspecting sleeping dogs. Domestic dog has a real problem compared to stray dogs because it allows time for these insects to travel and reinfect. Hence, spraying the premises over wide area and the lawns especially will help. For minor skin allergies and rashes, milk of magnesia works quite well and sometimes I used that, but dog's habitual licking at the area may lead to loose stool, but it is a good detox for the dog sometimes.
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RID OF THEM FOR GOOD
12/13/2007: K writes: "This mange cure really works!! I was a little skeptical but very desperate. We used the 20 Mule Team Borax and 3%Hydrogen Peroxide diluted to 1% solution on our female Andulasian Pyranees Shepherd, Sheba. We had been using a sulfur-based medication but it seemed we were fighting a losing battle. We could not afford to spend big bucks at the vet so finding this website was God-send. After 6 weeks, Sheba has re-grown most of her hair (her back was almost hairless). We will continue these treatments until it all grows back. Thank you Ted for posting this amazing cure!"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "

Make sure the premises, house, lawn, and other floor areas of the house are sufficiently sterilized by cleaning the areas with borax in 3% H2O2. Most of the mange seems to be coming from the lawn and it is quite common of reinfection if the premises is not regularly sterilized, such as weekly."

TED'S REMEDIES
10/15/2007: J writes: "Dear Ted, For the last 2 years my 4 pound Yorkshire Terrier Gigi, has a bad case of fungus that covered her whole underside. I have taken her to several Vets and tried everything they suggested and no lasting improvements. A month ago I tried your Mange formula. I have used it daily and only parts of the fungus would go away. She has no fur on her legs, nor underside and the itching is pitiful to watch. Could you please tell me what could have caused this? Also is her ph level a problem to contend with? Any other thing you feel I should be trying? I don't know where to go from here as I am open to any suggestions as I feel you are our last resort. Please contact me any way you choose. I appreciate your selfish love and concern for all of God's creatures - 2 and 4 legged. May you be blessed - today - tomorrow and always."

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "

Jean:A mange formula if it is a fungus was not exactly designed for that purpose so the solution is weak, however a mange should ideally be applied everyday, and no rinsing. A mange formula can be adapted to be a 1.5% concentration of H2O2 maximum in case the original 1% mange didn't work that well.

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A baking soda 1/2 teaspoon added per liter of drinking water might help some of the pH problem and the fungus.

 

An ammonium chloride solution 10-20%, applied to the dog may help, or an ammonium carbonate 10% solution is also anti-fungal.

 

Those seem to be the easiest to find and safest to use for general use, however, this is not exactly a strong solution, but it works nevertheless.

 

A stronger solution is a 1% or 2% concentration of copper chloride applied to the dog may be more effective, and if the solution is too weak it can be increased up to 5% for topical application, wait for a couple of minutes, then rinse would be just fine, but most people prefer not to rinse it. The problem about these formula is relatively difficult to find.

 

Hence another antifungal solution might be better using a 3% concentration of H2O2 mixed in equal parts with a plain distilled vinegar and applied to the dog.

This is rather a strong one, easier to find, and is also antifungal in properties too.

 

A solution 10% tannic acid applied to the dog's area where it itches may also help in case other treatment were unresponsive. There is no way I can tell whether the dog has fungus,

or mange or some other bacterial infection, but assuming it is a staph or bacterial infection, then a milk of magnesia no rinse is applied topically, and this should usually kill it. A dog may have a bad habit to lick this solution and may result in watery stools, hence, it should be applied in the area as needed, and if at all possible a cone placed on the dog's head to prevent them from licking the milk of magnesia (well shaken, no aluminum compounds).

 

As the dog gets older, the difficulty of treatment becomes more as the dog's immune system is lowered. Hence, a powdered multivitamins one tablet mixed into his food given once or twice are usually enough to help raise some of that problem.

 

Finally if the dog's immunity is the problem (autoimmunity), where borax are unresponsive, than a lugol's solution of iodine or a colorless iodine be applied.

 

In my own observation all of the above remedy works fairly well with the itching and all the above remedy are antifungal in nature, with the exception of milk of magnesia, which rids the bacteria causing the problem.

 

Hopefully this helps! "

AMINO VITAMINS FOR IMMUNE SYSTEM
06/28/2007: AM writes: "Dear Ted, After spending $900.00 on allergies my dog did not have, I finally realized my 12 pound dog has demodex mites. My vet never did a scraping. And now I Have a 26 day wait for the vet who is a specialist in skin problems. It is not local but not all over his body. About 35%. I also know Jack Russells are prone to immune system problems. I have 4 terriers. I am starting your protocol; but also want to give Jack 3-6-9 amino vitamins. I do not want to overdose him any suggestions on dosage?"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Most of the allergies of the dog will be reduced by adding a 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in a liter of drinking water.

A good supplements to further reduce the allergy is the magnesium citrate added to the drinking water at 300 mg.

Giving the dog a bath with the usual borax and peroxide remedy should resolve the red mange, however it is the baking soda that should reduce most of the allergies, but this will take a couple of weeks of baking soda added to the drinking water with some magnesium added (for only 4 day out of 7)

As to the amino acid supplements. those are quite difficult to overdose in practice, but in my experience, giving a dog 4 days out of 7, would not cause much of an overdose. I am assuming the amino acid supplements for a 10 pound dog is between 200-2000 mg so this should have little effect on the dog."

CAT TREATMENT
06/25/2007: D writes: "Hi, Ted: I have a Siamese cat that I suspect has mites, as she has no fleas. Do you know if this is safe for her?"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Deborah: The borax/peroxide remedy I have tested are safe for pets in general. If the condition is a mild one, applying a very wet towel should do it, at least for cats."

HORSE TREATMENT
06/04/2007: K writes: "Hi Ted, My 20 year old horse has mange. I have tried ivermectin and many other recommended cures. NOTHING has worked.Will your Borax/hy prox recipe for dogs work on horses? Would the recipe be the same? Would the apple cider vinegar be a better choice for a horse then the hy prox?"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear Kay: There were a couple of human case of a mange after receiving it from a horse and it worked, so if it worked too. So since it works on dogs and humans, it will probably worked on horses. Do not try apple cider vinegar. The organic components of apple cider vinegar will neutralize the antibacterial effects of the peroxide, before it gets a chance to kill the harmful bacteria. Only hydrogen peroxide and borax solution. The concentration 1% is a standard solution with saturated borax. This causes the least skin irritation while harming the mites. Since horses are larger, the frequency of dose is doubled, such as twice a day, or at least once a day. No rinsing. So this may be the most discouraging part of the treatment. Disinfect the horse stables with borax and hydrogen peroxide solution is important. However in case of the solution be used for disinfection the peroxide solution for cleaning anyway should at least be doubled to 2%. Reinfection is a much more common the larger the animal, such as a horse. If at all possible for disinfection add a 2% epsom salt to it to kill other bacterial agents to. In case the horses accidentally eat them, it will cause them to be more resistant to bacteria. If the open sores are quite large - and they tend to be the larger the animal, and it does not close up after even with this remedy, then a honey and iodine solution applied to the open wound (add iodine enough for light brown or medium brown solution) and protect it with some cotton gauze. This remedy's been done since the Egyptian times, but without the iodine."

HOW OLD SHOULD PUPPIES BE?
Jo writes: "How old should pups be before using Ted's # 2 cure ? I need help"

Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "From my own experience, if the puppies can run and play at that age would be sufficient, so a couple of months would be an ideal age. I don't see problems in using the dog mange on young puppies if they are mobile enough, but it cannot be used if they are a couple of weeks old. The biggest problem I encountered are not the young puppies, but very very old dogs with mange(about 15 years and up) where their immune system are much suppressed, and their skin problems get inflammed all the time and get mange easily because of immune supression. In which case a dietary changes are in order, with bicarbonates, some sea salts, magnesium, and iodine. I suspect one of the reasons why dog age quicker and recovery rate is slower from the mange is their carnosine levels are lower. Some studies indicate longevity of all animals are well correlated to carnosine levels in the muscles. So perhaps for old dogs, carnosine might be something that can help recovery, but more experimenting is needed."

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