I just purchased ThioSulfate, I'm gonna use it to help rid ammonia out of the brain. I'll be taking Glutamine as well.
Hope every thing is normal with you now after that bad experience of rain you had.
I read the article under the following link which talks about the Sodium thiosulphate Link:
There is a lady of 93 yrs of age mother of my friend living in other city, suffering from, seems arthritis due to which she used to have severe pain and could not bend the hand fingers. I helped by giving the mix of Mag.Oil and DMSO. It has helped her a lot and she is very happy. But now she has informed me that there is no pain but she is not able to hold the spoon to eat her meals (though at the beginning she said she can hold the spoon). What I feel is that she wants some more relief.
I feel that there is quite a bit of calcification in the joints of the fingers and that is why it is difficult for her to hold the spoon with the fingers.
In the above article, the author states that Sodium thiosulphate can eliminate the calcification, therefore my request to you is to give me your opinion as to how can I use Sodium thiosulphate to help her. Shall I mix this with the liquid I am already sending her if yes how much should I mix. My solution is 50% Mag.Oil( it is good concentration) + 50%, 80% DMSO , this has been working very well with many people. Other options are I can make separate solution of Sodium thiosulphate and DMSO which she can apply at different times and in that how much Sodium Thiosulphate. Why I am asking this is because I had read some where that you take two drops of 10% of sodium thiosulphate.
Kindly give your advice. Thanks, Baldev
San Fernando, Philippines
Los Angeles, Cal.
Sodium thiosulfate is a common dechlorinator used to remove chlorine from drinking water. It is also a well known antidote for cyanide poisoning where the sodium thiosulfate reacts with cyanide to form sodium thiocyanate.
Some people who take too much apricot pits (cancer treatment) have a weak form of cyanide poisoning and found it helpful to add the sodium thiosulfate drops to reduced its side effect when they used the apricot pits, which is high in vitamin B17 or sometimes take apple seeds also somewhat high B17 to treat themselves of cancer or other immunity problems.
They have reported to me that the side effects were reduced from taking too much apricot pits, and caused them to be to nauseated, but when sodium thiosulfate drops are taken, no nausea effects from too much apricot pits is seen. Apparently the extra cyanide, if it were to exist in excess, reacted with sodium thiosulfate to form sodium thiocyanate, where the body can get rid of them quickly, but I also suspect that the sodium thiocyanate may have some antiviral, anti-cancer properties, perhaps only a tiny amount from eating apricot pits and the thiosulfate reduced effect, but its reacted components may have the same properties nonetheless. I would therefore imagine that the thiocyanate is less toxic than the apricot pits but also reduces the side effects by allowing the body to rid of them easier.
For me I used sodium thiosulfate to get rid of certain heavy metals, and accumulation of oxidative chemicals in the liver, as the sodium thiosulfate is a good reducing agent (reduces free radicals), but it is also a laxative in some respects, at least only initially in detoxification.
Most people are not aware that sodium thiosulfate is a common dechlorinator used in fish tanks, drinking water and swimming pool water, and sometimes a low amount of can be found in natural hot springs water, but they do have trace sodium sulfide too, which is why it can used to treat skin problems and some to bathe in it to relieved them of skin problems, rheumatism, although indirectly.
In other cases I used s.t. to help with sleep, as the reducing agent, especially the thiosulfate form of reducing agents helps with the sleep.
A thiosulfate form can form a weak sulfide compound which is also a component that works synergistically with the body's available nitrites to help to small extent anyway in controlling blood pressure or extend its effect for some people who take nitroglycerine tablets to treat both heart problems and high blood pressure. The effect is seen to last longer.
In my personal observation a bicarbonate formula, in alkaline form mixed with a very tiny amount of sodium nitrites works the same way based on my experiment as both the nitrogylcerine and the sodium nitrite degrades to nitric oxide in presence of organic acids. Interestingly, if the body were already suffering the acidosis conditions from lack of bicarbonates, the nitric oxide, which is the major component in controlling the body's blood pressure, does not degrade, and is more effective in killing of microbes, where its waste product, and the microbe itself are rich in organic acid. The sodium nitrite, produced by the body's own glial cells located in the brain, would degrade to nitric oxide, burning the acid forming bacteria, viruses and other microbes, much like burning them alive.
The sodium thiosulfate is also used as a photographic fixer, known as "Hypo" to prevent the chemicals of photgraphs from further getting dark and fix the pictures, much like a preservative, from preventing the pictures to be developed from further chemical oxidation.
I have also used it in the past to help sleep as well as to help concentration in event of ADHD, children's hyperactivity, and temper tantrums, and have worked remarkably well especially when a child of hyperactivity, is used to treat glutamine (amino acid) to help detoxify ammonia, and helped with brain development, is used in combination with sodium thiosulfate to reduced the resultant temporary hyperactivity that resulted from glutamine use. When those are used in combination, I have noted to cause a child to improve in leaps and bounds, which can be used for ADHD, hyperactivity, autism, and even emotional disturbances. For me, I also used s.t. as an anti-depressant and anxiety problems as well. At least for me anyway, the sodium thiosulfate has wide use, because of its unique properties as a reductant agent, it reduces free radicals, and reduces the liver accumulating actions of oxidative chemicals, where it is most dramatic as a treatment for cyanide poisoning. Still its everyday use is seen in fish aquariums and a dechlorinator for both drinking water and in use of swimming pools. In my opinion, people who used public bath cause their body to accumulate excess chlorine, the people who sells chlorine knows how much a human body uptake chlorine, which is quite a bit, but also does damages to the body. As a result, some people, like me for example, might after exposure to too much chlorinated water, will use the sodium thiosulfate solution to rinse by body of excess chlorine and perhaps some drops of sodium thiosulfate taken internally. Chickens and livestocks cannot use chlorinated water to chickens and pigs, as chlorinated water causes stunting of growth in pigs and chickens. At least in the case of chickens drinking water chlorinated in the farm, the biopsy of chicken were shown to have heart disease, and perhaps this line of chlorinated water used can be extended to human use as well. Of course human water, with chlorine and fluorine uses, is quite toxic to animals, and it is part of the many reasons why humans get sick. I imagine that the sodium thiosulfate to have much more wider use in the distant future and I have only begin to touch only just a small part of this, and not just its ability to remove heavy metals, chlorine, toxic compounds, excess cyanide, its anti-anxiety, anti-depressant effect, promotes sleep, is a laxative, used as a skin problems such as eczmea, and many other applications, I simply can't remember. There was one case of a child who reportedly got fat from swimming in a chlorinated water too long (for about a month) as the oxidative effect of chlorine tend to do that, and well at least help reduce those effect and at the very least, reduce being bloated, as the sodium thiosulfate would react with the excess blood chlorine to form a simple trace amounts of saline solution in very minute amounts instead of a more toxic chlorine.
The sodium thiosulfate is also used as a common remedy to reduce the side effects which causes deafness in some people from chemotherapy. But in my opinion, the free radicals also generated during x ray therapies, such as CAT scans can reduced such side effects just the same. I had a friend of mine who got a terrible headaches after getting her teeth x-rayed and took both vitamin C and sodium thiosulfate. Those two things stopped the headaches (and hopefully the radiation damages to her brain) the same day. It's probably the antioxidant effects from both the vitamin C and the sodium thiosulfate.
All this information I am telling is really old information (about 30+ years ago) as I found this out while doing experiments in U.S. high school. Nevertheless, with the trend in dumbing down of U.S. schools, I doubt any high school student today who studied chemistry would be aware of this as they are just too busy cramming for exams instead of doing experiments and make small discoveries for themselves. It was about the same time I think that Bill Gates was also playing computer programming at his own high school, which might be a monopoly program simulation, before becoming the world's largest software house.
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
San Fernando, La Union
Pune, Maharashtra, India
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
Hyderabad , India
Vellore (Tamilnadu) India
Hi Ted/Bill, I read from the info. mentioned in this website that in general, one to three rice be put into two liters of water. I would like to know:
- should I drink this 2 liters within the same day?
- does it need to be taken in empty stomach?
- how many days, maximum, can one drink it? I mean how many days on n then off for how many days? (eg for borax, it's 4 days on n 3 days off. by the way, why did Ted say that women can take borax for one month? or that Ted's patient had been taking it for one month? I saw someone asking this question but I cant find the answer).
- there are also info in here saying that 6 to 10 drops of 10% ST in a glass of water once a day.
Sorry but i'm a bit confused about how to take it. Thank you very much! Winnie
I want to negate the effects of the chlorine in my bath water, and have purchased sodium thiosulphate. I have the amount of water that goes in the bath, but what would be the amount of sodium thiosulphate I would need to add, say per litre?? Any help appreciated. Thanks:-)
Bill, below is data from Ted.
...The drinking water will therefore constantly reduce the toxins but there is another kind of toxins that H2O2 might not be able to neutralized and it can be switched over once a month or twice a month, only one or two day with the sodium thiosulfate drops. Which is 10% sodium thiosulfate, 10 drops per liter of water. It tends to neutralize other types of toxins. Initial taking of this may have a laxative effect, more like detoxification, thereafter no more problems.
I located a sodium thiosulfate bottle for aquarium usage. Is this always in a 10% solution or do I have to dilute it more to get there? The company does not tell specifics with %. Thank You for any help : Joe
San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines
San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines
I have Sodium Thiosulfate crystals 99.5% pure. I want to know how to convert it to safer ingestible percentages. What formulas can I use?
I have heard STS can be taken intravenously, could you use the same solution or would other steps be involved to purify it for injection?
San Fernando, Philippines
San Fernando, Philippines
Hi everyone. I just got a bottle of lab grade sodium thiosulfate from a science company in the mail. I am looking forward to using the sodium thiosulfate to detox from heavy metals. Inside my bottle are pellets the size of rice grains. Can someone provide the recipe? For example, do I dissolve 1 pellet in a liter of water and sip that throughout the day or should I treat the pellet like a supplement and swallow it with a lot of water? Thank you so much for your advice.
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
I use one tea spoon of Sodium Thiosulfate and one tea spoon of Ascorbic Acid in glass of 4 oz. water every night for a 6 days. Is it dangerous for my health?
Normal drinking water is chlorinated at 4 ppm, sodium thiosulfate will dechlorinate the water, for a commercial aquarium product at 2 drops of the product for 1 gallon of water with 4 ppm of chlorine ( same as city drinking water). On the web, a sodium thiosulfate calculator was found that indicated that 53 mg of sodium thiosulfate per gallon of water with 4 ppm of chlorine, the chlorine will be deactivate. go here http://www.cnykoi.com/calculators/calcdechlor.asp
Now.. maybe Ted can answer this, if 2 drops will dechlorinate at 4ppm for 1 gallon of water, then 1 ml contains 650 mg of sodium thiosulfate or a concentratrion of 65%. Is that correct, 65 % concentration to get 2 drops to dechlorinate 1 gallon??? Or is there other agents added to the product which synergestically work to dechlorinate, with a lower concentration of sodium thiosulfate?
Almost all tap water we drink is chlorinated. The issue is that while some municipalities use Chlorine, many use Chloramine instead, mainly because it's cheaper and in certain conditions more effective.
The problem is that Sodium Thiosulfate combines/reacts with Chloramine and that releases Ammonia, which we all know is very dangerous!
This must be addressed. Benefiting from Sodium Thiosulfate's benefits while enhancing Ammonia levels is a real danger.
Any feedback/precautions/fixes are more than welcome :)
Better But With Side Effects
Thiosulfate report: Be careful when using thiosulfate as a toxin remover, chelator: The thiosulfate may also remove too much critical nutrients, like copper, calcium, iron, magnesium; if used without a plan.
I used a fish aquarium water cleaner that I bot in a pet shop; with a odd brand name. The specifed use of it was to clean the tap water of chlorine, it contained sodium thiosulfate plus EDTA as a liquid solution. I found the ingredient list on the distributors website msds sheet. They were not listed on the bottle label. 30% sodium thio-sulfate and 10% EDTA. My purpose was to try and chelate insecticides, pesticides, arsenic, and heavy metals from my tissues.
I and a 2nd person took 2 drops, in water, twice per day, 6 days per week, for 4 weeks. [ 2 drops X 2 t/d X 6 d/wk X 4 weeks]
By the end of week 3 I was having muscle spasms in lower legs, in mornings, while in bed. The 2nd person also experienced some muscle spasms. This indicates a deficiency symptom of calcium, or magnesium, or maybe iron...... This occurred until we stopped the mineral chelator.
By week 3 I began to experience chronic lower back soreness and pains, while doing no physical labor. The lower back area seemed to be loosing calcium at the vertebraes and the lower back seemed to be degenerating, for no aparent reason. As if I was experiencing a calcium deficiency in the vertebrae bones..... Until I stopped the mineral chelator.
By the end of week 3, the 2nd person was showing signs of a copper deficiency, despite supplementing with copper. This showed up as sub-dermal heamatomas, or capillary fragility, and bleeding under the skin after a mild bump or a scrape. She had previously been cured of this sub-dermal heamatoma symptom by supplementing with 2 mg of copper, per day. She was still supplementing with copper, but the capillary fragility was coming back... Until she stopped the mineral chelator.
After 4 weeks we stopped the experiment, and within 2 days our symptoms began to reverse themselves. It is now day 3, and we are better still. The symptoms are now 75% improved, after only 3 days. Leg cramps gone, sub-dermal heamatomas gone. Lower back soreness is 60% better.
This experiment proves to me that the sodium thio-sulfate [plus the EDTA in the formula] is a powerful chelator of metals, and therefore is potentially capable of chelating heavy metal, etc. but You must restrict it's use to short periods of time; maybe 1 week per month for general chelating. And supplement heavily of nutritional minerals while on it. In the future, I would only intake it One time per day, at bedtime, away from food. In a cycle of One week on, 3 weeks off.
It would be good to keep in the house for emergency use for accidental poisonings, or suspected poisonings. Perhaps taking it for 3 days after the suspected poisoning occurred, as insurance.
I hope this information helps someone else.
I keep a 100ml bottle of water mixed with Sodium ThioSulfate crystals & wet my body with it after showering. I air dry, allowing the STS to be absorbed transdermally.
Purpose: to increase sulphur intake.
For proof of efficacy of topical STS, see:
See clinical photos of a "dramatic diminution of a large calcification treated with topical sodium thiosulfate.
Bill from san fernando, can you check to see if this the right sodium thiosulfate also?
San Fernando, Philippines
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
Where does someone buy sodium thiosulfate? I went to all pet stores in my area and they don't know what I am talking about. Is there any other name that it is known.
Elmont, New York