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Natural Cures for Atrial Fibrillation

Last Modified on May 27, 2016

As a potentially serious condition of the heart, atrial fibrillation is concerning; however, the issue is not without natural treatment. While most doctors simply put a “Band-Aid” on the condition by prescribing medication, a number of other factors can be combined to achieve a natural, holistic treatment plan. Caused by a variety of issues, atrial fibrillation typically responds well to lifestyle and dietary changes as well as the addition of certain supplements.

The Problem

Atrial fibrillation is a common heart condition that involves the abnormal rhythm of the heart. It is often called an arrhythmia and causes an irregular, often rapid heart rate that results in poor blood flow to the body. A number of common conditions contribute to the condition including high blood pressure, heart attack, abnormal heart valves, heart defects, overactive thyroid, metabolic imbalance, exposure to stimulants, sick sinus syndrome, viral infections, stress, and a number of others.

The Holistic Solution

With such a wide variety of causes, atrial fibrillation is often best treated using a varied approach. Controlling your lifestyle and diet reduces stress on the body and ultimately the heart. Likewise, a holistic approach helps support overall health while treating the condition at the same time.

Lifestyle Changes

A number of lifestyle changes can be made to help support treatment of atrial fibrillation. Reducing stress is the number one way you can help control your heart’s natural rhythm. Begin by identifying and eliminating common stressors in your life. Likewise, adopt a regular exercise routine, such as yoga, that relaxes and calms your body.

Dietary Changes

Whether you know it or not, many of the items you are consuming are likely contributing to your condition. In addition to reducing stress, limit caffeine, alcohol, and tobacco. You’ll also want to reduce your consumption of processed foods and increase your intake of whole, organic foods. Avoid sugar and artificial sweeteners as well.

Supplements and Other Treatment Options

Specific supplements also help treat the condition. Magnesium, potassium, and calcium are especially important for supporting heart health, so consider taking a daily supplement of each of these.

Whether you have just been diagnosed with atrial fibrillation or have been dealing with the issue for years, a holistic approach to treatment will likely offer you relief and treatment. Begin by making one positive change at a time, and you’ll be on your way to natural health and wellness in no time.

Continue reading below to see what supplements and home remedies our readers recommend for Afib!

Remedies for Atrial Fibrillation

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Dental Issues12012-08-05
Detox from Chemicals02013-09-13
Foods to Avoid: Worchester Sauce02009-12-04
General Feedback02012-07-31
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Multiple Remedies02013-08-15
Oat Bran12013-03-19
Orange Juice (or Vitamin C)12015-09-19
Sodium Bentonite Clay12014-04-08
Supplements, Yoga12009-04-11
Tabasco Sauce02009-11-12
Veterinary Antibiotics02012-04-19
Vitamin C12015-12-30

A-Fib or Peripheral Neuropathy  

Posted by Linda (Washington) on 02/16/2014

I have a question. Is it possible due to an injury to my upper back that there was damage to a nerve that would also cause A-Fib symptoms? I have been studying this possibility because I had an injury a herniated disk with so much pain in my upper back. I am 65. A few months later was doing a lot of scrubbing and general cleaning but was bending over and using my arms and shoulders for lifting as well. Soon after had an attack of a racing heart and shortness of breath. Was rushed to the ER and was admitted to the hospital over night. Soon after admitting the racing heart stopped on its own and breathing was back to normal. They couldn't find anything wrong. I was set up with a Cardio and had all the tests. Wore a monitor over a few days. They could find nothing wrong with my heart said it was A-Fib and put me on toprol and low dose aspirin. Said go home that's all that could be done. If it got worse come back. The only time I have these attacks is when I over do and do too much physical work that involves my back and shoulders and arms. Also I seem to be able to help it to ease a little just by changing position and it only seems to happen after going to sleep. I sleep hard and don't seem to change position and when I wake the back of my head is numb and now I notice that the tip of my nose gets numb at different times depending on how I sit or stand. So does anyone know could this be caused by Peripheral Neuropathy? The Doctors that I question say you have A-Fib live with it. I doubt that. I think it may be something else. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Replied by Mike62
Linda: I had the same thing 10 years ago. Good simple nutrients like vitamins and minerals from raw organic whole foods make good hormones that are vasodilators. More nutrients and oxygen get through to the tissues. Bad simple nutrients and toxins from cooked conventionally grown foods make bad hormones that are vasoconstrictors so less oxygen and nutrients get to the tissues. Take a green smoothie made from 1oz organic baby leaves, 12oz water, 1/4g sun dried sea salt, and some organic chili every 2 hours. Eat lots of organic berries. Take 1/2 coconut oil and 1/2 flax oil for fats. Keep oils below 5%/g. Eat 30g non denatured whey isolate or concentrate for protein. Eat a combination of organic bananas including the peel and organic whole sugars for carbs. Take the carbs, proteins, and oils together every 2 hours. Take 2ml skate liver oil/day.
Replied by Sarah
Chicago, Il
Hi Linda, it might be peripheral neuropathy OR you might have a magnesium deficiency and/or potassium deficiency and/or electrolyte deficiency triggered when you exert yourself. I would start restoring your magnesium levels each day to see if this helps. Vitamin C packets with electrolytes might be helpful as well. Just make sure to find ones without aspartic acid, an artificial sweetener which can trigger a-fib. Make sure your diet contains no hidden MSG or artificial sweeteners. Please let us know what your diet is like.

Alternatively, you might have a good chiropractor check to see if a rib or two is out of place.

I have heard Alpha Lipoic Acid is good for Peripheral Neuropathy, so you can research that and see if it works.

Replied by Dave Donate

Fountain Inn, Sc
To Linda from Washington,

Do not wish to give you disconcerting information and certainly hope I am wrong but the symptoms you give would indicate you are verging on very serious heart situation.

If this were me...

And I did have a friend a year (plus) ago who asked for advice with many of the symptoms you mentioned. When we was bending over working in his garden, he'd have an onset of symptoms especially heavy feeling in his chest. Etc.

I told him and tell very careful NOT to exert until corrective action is undertaken .... immediately.

He refused to go to Doc or ER having had bad experience with same a few years earlier.

I told him he must get on the following immediately...

Vitamin E (NATURAL E, d alpha tocopherol, not the synthetic dl....) Get the real thing in health food store not drug store. Start with 200 iu daily and increase to 400 in 30 days, then increase to 600 a month later. I take 1,000 IUs daily of dl alpha tocopherol. E will clean veins and arteries and oxygenate the heart (and other muscles).

PS...You do not have PN. Even if you did, it's the least of your worries.

1,000 mg of Arginine

500 mg of herb Hawthorn

1,000 mg of Co Q 10

100 mg of niacin (causes a flush... read about this on internet)

After you start up with the E, get off the aspirin since the E is a blood thinner and you don't need aspirin to thin once on E.

1,000 mg of magnesium

500 mg of potassium...good source is ACV .... one tablespoon in large glass of water...sipped after last meal of day

Remote possibility you have infection in heart...don't think so...but just in case take two tablespoons of colloidal silver on empty stomach for two weeks...will kill infection if any. Important on empty stomach to get into blood stream.

Replied by Linda
To Dave, Thank You so much for your quick response. I will purchase and try these things you have suggested. Anything that will lead me in the right direction is a blessing. You and Earth Clinic are so very important to the well being of people that have given up on conventional medicine. But, still need guidance in how to help themselves. I will report back if I find that this has helped even in the slightest.

Thank you Sarah. At the time this first happened I was on a terrible diet. I m sure I did deplete my minerals. No matter the diet I can't seem to lose weight. So I simply gave up food except for a salad a day with small portion of chicken. Went like this for months and only lost 6 pounds. I don't eat breads or pasta, potatoes or rice. Stay away from sugar and artificial sweeteners. I try to keep up with the fresh fruits and veggies not always successful. I guess some would call it a low carb diet, I gain weight very easily so I just don't eat the way I should. Thank you for your help.

Thank you Mike62. It is good to hear that you overcame this problem and that something can actually be done. I was told to live with it. I have hope now that it can be reversed by means of good nutrition and vitamins. Do you believe that your problem was A-fib or Peripheral Neuropathy?

Replied by Mike62
Linda: I was 50lbs over weight, had many bad conditions, and many terrible diseases. I didn't go to the doctor because I was not able to wait for a long time in a confined space with nothing to do at a free clinic. I studied and tried various natural treatment plans and enjoyed limited success. Then I discovered one treatment plan that changes all the bad conditions to good conditions, cured all the diseases that were causing me so much suffering, and melted off all the fat. Nourishment. Just eating right was the solution that made my body buzz like a bee. I studied what herbivores, carnivores, centenarians, and athletes eat. Organic baby leaves are the best vegetable. The nutrients are locked up in the cellulose so grinding up in the blender is required. I take 8oz/day of the 5 super babies. Organic berries are the best fruit. Activated barley, whole sugars, bananas, and water kefir made from whole flours are the best carbs. They have to be organic. Chili is the best herb. Desiccated liver is the best meat. Non denatured whey and colostrum are the best dairy. Expeller pressed coconut oil is the best saturated fat. Black chia seeds are the best unsaturated fat. The super foods are the best protein. Skate liver oil is best for fat soluble nutrients. I take the carbs, oils, and proteins together and keep fat below 10%/calorie or 5%/g with 1 pint of kefir and water every hour.
Replied by L J
Los Angeles
Hi Linda, about your A fib?? Can you let us know if you tried any of these remedy suggestions and did they work? I too also just started getting those heart problems at nite in bed, I also think it's my bones are out, because when I sleep differently the flutterings , , they stop. I might have a rib out. But not certain..what do you think Linda?
Replied by Shannon
San Francisco, CA
Linda, that is interesting about upper back injury and a fib. I was in fender bender (hit from behind) that caused whiplash and a fib started shortly after. My epsiodes occur like yours: in bed when falling asleep. I got chiro treatment right after accident, and have regular visits. I also had all of the following prior to my a fib, which I heard cause a fib:

hot flashes, had just started menopause.

root canal, just had my 1st and only one.

high doses vit D, had started for menopause.

stress, had extra stress.

I've been taking the above supps. for 3 months with no improvement. Stopped the niacin after one day as that is too painful. Was scheduled for ablation but canceled due to stress of blood draws and fear of the procedure. Might sign up for yoga but usually can't stand the classes. Am trying to do deep breathing when stressed.

Replied by Pat
I also was diagnosed while going thru menopause. Try the magnesium (high doses) and taurine and l arginine. Also possible adrenal fatigue from too much stress(I believe I was under extreme amounts). The women's health network recommended. I try a supplement for that called serrinisol. I have been taking that too. They all seem to help. still take a low dose of toprol (half of a 25 mg) to keep my heart rate from going too fast.and also because I am afraid to stop it totally but have gotten down to a very low dose! Good luck!
Replied by James
Pat, I too was on Metoprolol low dose for a time. Side effects were mild as I took at night. Tho it did not keep me in NSR. I just had a slower, yet irregular HR. Since May I tossed all the meds, Flec, Torp, etc and went to supplements. Have self converted twice since then but did notice that Hawthrone berry had the same effect as Met with no side effects in keeping HR low. In AF 15 hours and HR was averaging 72 bpm.
Replied by A Verma
hmmm I too had same experience. after a lot of research found out that my FACET joints in my upper back (right behind the chest) is experiencing problem (due to injury). it caused pressing of the spinal nerves situated behind and around the spinal cord.
Replied by Terry
Beverly Hills, Ca
There is indeed a connection between back injuries, nerve trauma/inflammation and A-Fib. Dr. Joel Wallach speaks about this in interviews and his books. For many people according to him, A-Fib has to do with the vagus nerve function being impacted by nerve issues related to back injury or misalignment. There are some scientific papers looking at this association you can find online.
Replied by Snowbird
Connecticut And Florida, US
For me, Chocolate brings on the A Fib (couldn't resist the Easter chocolates everyone bought me) and then by taking some slow-release magnesium at bedtime, along with one extra blood pressure pill, and the A Fib is gone in the morning. Done this about 4 times now. Yes, I have a Hx of A Fib, have had the cardiac conversion (shock treatment) twice and am on Pradaxa to prevent blood clots. Any stimulant like coffee or caffeine brings it on for me. My A Fib all started after a non-cancerous tumor was discovered inside my heart and it was removed. That was 8 years ago. I'm 67 now.
Replied by Rigger
Northeast, Maryland
Miss Linda, you mentioned your diet and how it isn't working for you. That's an understood, because you're diet is not allowing your metabolism to function. Your diet has it shut down. Once a week, pick a day, eat what you want, Pizza, Ice cream, cake, etc. for just that day. Next day go back to what you've been doing. Your metabolism will kick in from eating what you wish for that "cheat day" and you will start losing weight. But your just not getting enough proper nutrients from what your eating daily. Get more protein in your diet with more chicken and beans, at least 25 grams of protein daily for you gain muscle instead of fat. Better metabolism function will burn fat off, so keep up the good work and I wish you the best.
Replied by Mike
Fairport, Ny
Interesting reads here. I was given an antibiotic a few years ago, and noticed I seem to have a lot of digestive issues since. I also ended up with constant AFIB not long after. Besides all of the nasty associated side affects of having it (anxiety, shortness of breath) I also started having a lot of issues sleeping. Sure enough, I was diagnosed with apnea. I was administered to the hospital for 3 days and given Tikosyn, which put me right back in rythym. Guess what?? Apnea went away. It's not apnea that caused my Afib, it was the other way around!! Hmmmm.......

I'm going to try probiotics and a lot of excercise, I am optimistic this will help and I can get rid of the meds someday. Mike

Replied by Claudia
Are you still taking Tikosyn? Do you experience any side effects from this drug?
Replied by Pat
Hi James, Nh

I was reading your some of the posts on this website and you say you're off the Toprol, Flec etc? I am so happy to hear that since I am just going off at least that awful "flec"! Can't take that drug! It is nasty to take! But they tell me I won't stay out of "afib".I will take the "flec" just when I get it(about once a week now! ) I just a=don't like it every day! I take Toprol 25mg just at night.Couldn't stand the side effects of that one during the day either! What supplements do youtake a=every day?

Alkaline Diet  

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Posted by RON (TAVERNIER, FL) on 03/03/2009
4 out of 5 stars

As you know i have been here before with many hit and miss theories about what is going on in my body. i have stumbled across some information and compared it to my current conditions aside from the atrial fib and think i have found the key. it is my belief my atrial fib was caused by a toxic substance in my blood. i had been found as having leaky gut syndrome some time ago and having a toxin in my blood by those that do blood work with a microscope. i thought little of it then and now i am starting to put pieces to together. those pieces are antibiotic use in the past, a poor gut flora, fungus under my toenails, poor digestion, malabsorbtion, sinus problems, post nasal drip, blowing my nose after eating, constipation and or diarrea, itchy skin rashes that come and go for no reason, and some other irritaions not enough to worry about alone but then as a whole have indicated i need probiotics to repair the leaky gut that is leaking toxins into my blood stream. and to correct the obvious candidasis in my body.

since taking the probiotics i have noticed some improvements in my body and realize it can take some time to correct the issues but i appear to be on track to correcting what ails me. for the very first time i think i have really hit on the root source of the atril fib problem and that the atrial fib is a symptom of other things going on and not the cause of the off balanced body. my body can not become alkaline with foreign bodies and pathogens living inside.

no chronic condition can be corrected until the body becomes alkaline and that body can not become alkaline if the gut flora is dominated by putrid toxin creating bacteria and that body can not correct itself with candida caused by the medical profession giving out antibiotics like candy. i have found out more and more with each passing day that if one wants to live a good life and a long life they need to stay away from doctors unless they have had an accident or stab wound or something similar because other than that they are pretty much killing us with drugs.

EC: Thank you for the update, Ron!

Replied by Soyjim
East Alton, Illinois
I came across your post under fibrillation. My mother has this condition and is under a medical doctors care. I also thought that fungal infections might have an impact on this condition. She and I have splotches on our skin. My sisters have them also. They all think they are just age spots and I am puffing in the wind when I suggest they are fungal related. The five doctors I have been to for the condition have humored me somewhat giving me some medications that helped some but did not cure me. Antibiotics, prednisone, Lamisil pills, Nizaral pills, and one other anti fungal pill that the name escapes me. I have calloused red feet that I believe is a moccasin type Fungal infection. If I could get rid of that I now think my problem would be solved. For several years nothing has been able to eliminate this but it is not intolerable. I believe your ph balance theory is a good idea. The three things I have done that I believe have been most effective for what I believe is a systemic fungal infection are listed next. started drinking the borax water about a month ago, have used vinegar solution soaks off and on for several years. recently added peroxide to this which I think may be better. Thirdly I grow a pro biotic culture in a warm brewers yeast and tap water solution. I have been drinking this for about ten months. Good luck and post If you find something that solves a long standing fungal problem.
Replied by Ron
Tavernier, Fl


Replied by Ladyliza
Granada Hills, Ca
Some AF is caused my heavy caffeine consumption.. Hopefully you don't imbibe much. Are you drinking ACV daily with water? That will help kill the candida. Also I would suggest not eating any mushrooms, mold, or yeast.. As it contributes to the problem. The ACV will help turn your acidity to alkaline. You need to get off of anything sweet as it is hard to get rid of candida when you eat sugar. I take 3 garlic pills a day and my white coated tongue has improved a lot. Good luck!
Replied by Errol
Fl, Usa
Here is my latest information. I have suggested that my afib was caused by toxic blood and that my PH was off. I have since put it all together even more and have cured my afib with a simply effective therapy. Since it is my belief AFIB is an over acid condition caused by poor gut function, poor adrenal function, poor diet, etc I have addressed those issues. Anyone can see the things I have tried over the years and believe me no one supplement will do it, but a long term therapy will. My final solution to this problem is unique and maybe a bit unusual for those not as familiar with this monster as I am. I take bentonite clay and probiotics as my major therapy. The bentonite pulls the toxins and acids from the body and the probiotics creates healing conditions in the colon. None of this comes in a short time this takes over a year of work. The bentonite is the best thing to draw acids from the body, and those acids create conditIons when the heart surface tissue becomes inflamed and irritated resulting in what we know as afib. I take sodium bentonite in a liquid bentonite from a well known company that supplies the product. First use of bentonite can cause constipation so use should be for 3 days on 4 days off until one gets used to it.Probiotics should be a good brand like Key or dr Ohhiras. If one wants to speed the process a bit diet change can come to play, maybe not a radical as mine since I have become mostly vegetarian. It takes time to heal the monster give yourself a year at least. For more information on this and to get products one can look up unique healing on youtube or simply buy your own wherever you like. It works for me and should work for you
Replied by Linda
Missouri, US
Thank you, Errol, for your post. Very encouraging. I believe the afib is also caused by digestive issues (or surrounds the digestive issues), so I am going to take your suggestion and work on it, and I'll keep you posted.
Replied by Pat
Pennsylvania, US
I too believe that the digestive system is also involved with the afib. I think probiotics are a good idea.I started them, too. Makes sense since every episode of afib usually starts with "noises" in my stomach(gas?) Hope it helps!
Replied by Pat
Pennsylvania, US
Have been taking taurine and arginine for close to a month now and no afib. (unusual for me!). I also started the probiotic every day. Do you think that I can take the Hawthorne with the low dose of beta blocker? Don't know if I should stop it yet. Still feel like I need to keep my heart rate down to stay out of afib., but I think the supplements are keeping me from being symptomatic! Afib without the symptoms (which a lot of people have and don't know they even have it) is better to me than having "symptoms".

Wish I can get to that point. And I am not going to take the "rat poisoning" to thin by blood which they tell me I will have to take by age 65 (I am 62)! Will anticoagulate with aspirin and vitamin E which I already do.

Forgot to mention the supplement recommended by the "womens health network" called Serrinisol. I think it helps the "adrenal system". Another helpful site I found since losing faith in our traditional medical system to cure me of this. It is a slow process, but I believe I am finally getting somewhere after 2 years of this! I also think "prayer" has helped me a lot, too! Doctors aren't the only people that can heal us! And I believe God will lead me to cures that will heal me! After all, he led me to this website! Just be patient and the healing will come! Thank you all for your helpful input!

Replied by James
Pat, Yes, stay off Rat Poison! No doubt that mine and many of others AF episodes are "Vagally mediated" from Vagus nerve. Having never had an issue during the day, only at sleep or just before bed late, I'm sure mine is digestive system related and not adrenal. Tis why they test us for apnea Im guessing. Unfortunately, EPs and Cardios still attempt to prescribe meds that don't address the condition, but the symptoms. Beta blockers will NOT work for Vagus initiated AF. Flecainide does, but wow, what a dangerous med that is. Add to the nocturnal AFers, the disruption of sleep from meds, actually contributes to arrhythmia by disturbing REM sessions at night. So then they are quick to put us on sedatives. This Pharma ball just keeps rolling downward. However, Ablation does seem to have fair success with both vagal and adrenal AF.

To conclude all this, I was on Metoprolol for a time, and still got AF. Then switched to Flec. However I weaned off that after 3 horrible months, so I can't say if it would have worked. I did take Hawthorne while weaning off these meds, but not the dosage I now take. I would start with a low dose, maybe 250 mg with both berrie and flower. Last AF episode, HR never got higher than 72, tho still irregular, and I was NSR in 5 hours. Id say that's as successful as any beta blocker. So now, When I get that feeling, flutter, etc at night, I load up on Malate Mag, 600-900mg, and 500-1500 Hawthorne, over a 1-3 hour period before bed. Keep in mind, I did build up to this over 6 months as Mag is tough to assimilate in small intestines. I do carry the Tuarine and Arginine in cabinet for PIP purposes, but will look at adding that in. Apple Cider Vinegar and Blackstrap molasses seem to calm flutter down also. Best wishes.

Replied by Pat
Pa., US
To James.Thanks, I may get the ablation eventually but trying to work with supplements and meds right now. I will try the Hawthorne. I only take 12.5 mg a day of toprol. I really don't think it does anything but am afraid it may keep my HR a little lower so that when I do get afib it isn't quite as fast! But as far as the supplements go, none of them seem to rid me of the afib completely! Sooo, I guess I'll just keep going on my same regimen with supplements and meds. You are fight about the fleccanide, it also didn't prevent the afib so I stopped taking it every day and take a "rescue dose" 400 mg when I go into it, which lately is about every 3 weeks. It still takes about 2 hrs for it to work and even that is too long! Hope they come up with a new cure soon! Hanging in and hope you are too! Pray for us all!
Replied by Pat
Correction to my last statement! The rescue dose is 4 tablets fleccainide which is 200 mg not 400 mg.Sorry! Taken when I go into the fast heart rate which still scares me every time! I never get used to it! Thanks, Pat
Replied by James
Whew, Im glad you clarified that 400mg!! Im a big guy and I was told no more than 3 of my 100mg Flec to get back to NSR. Of course I haven't had the chance to try that because I've converted with Mag and Haw last 2 times. ND says to try the flec to see if that's quicker, but it doesn't sound as tho it is. Don't give up on the supplements and the healing process just yet, it could take 12-18 months to build up the stores of Mag and other good things, not to mention heal the inflammation. Every 3 weeks isn't bad, I'm about 1-2 months, but with the Hawthorne, HR stays low to tolerate. If you're only doing 12.5 of Toprol, you should be ok with Haw. Ablation is not in my thought process right now because you still are bound to Meds after, sometimes forever. One quick hint with my condition, I'm a nocturnal Fibber. So when I get that odd feeling, I load up on Mag, 6-900 mg along with 1 gm Taurine, 500 mg Haw, just before bed. That takes away all the pausing/flutter before bed and I sleep solid and wake up refreshed. Keep in mind that Mag is a blood thinner in its own right, so be careful if you're still on the Decon.
Replied by Pat
To James: Yes I started the Hawthorne. So far just 250 once a day. But for some reason I'm getting alot of intermittent afib which is alot slower than normal but comes more often! As I said, I also take Taurine and Serrinisol. I take 25mg of Toprol split into 2 doses because I can't handle it all together. Makes me feel lousy! I think it's because I have low normal BP and since it lowers my pressure and I really don't need it to, it makes me feel tired. I do seem to be getting the afib more at night now too! It comes in cycles! Wish it would go away for good! But I'll take it on a lesser level, as lately been.Not so fast and scary! I know there has to be a reason for this and sometimes I think they have messed up our electrical systems with all the technology in the world now! All those towers and everything! Some of our hearts are sensitive to it all! They're definitely killing us on this planet! Will let you know how the hawthorne works out.They also gave me Atavan to take for the anxiety I get from it! But only take 0.5 (maybe) a day, if I need to. Don't wanna get hooked on that, too! Don't really like it much. Good luck with yours! Maybe I'll get off them all like you too some day soon!
Replied by James
New Hampshire, US
Pat, Yes, with that on meds, they get you hooked and are not only hard to get off, youre body misses that fix also. But, of the 2, Id say the Magnesium is the most important. Hawthorne does slow rate, but if your doing the Metop, that is already slowing things down. Lowering your HR does not keep you out of Fib, whether its a med or supplement. Mag takes away my flutter or paps in minutes. (No AF this past month) Try loading up on that before bed, start with 300, and get to 6-900mg as soon as you can. It wont hurt you, just will eliminate it next day. Get the oil or gel form also, easier to hold in. Your condition is worse than avg, but Ive seen much worse and heard of successes without surgery. One lady I knew had it every day, for hours. Got on one supplement, and poof, gone and not returned for 5 years. COQ10 once a day was all she took!! I was envious. I take that also, but guess what? It doesnt work without adequate levels of Mag. Obviously she was getting her Mag levels from food sources. Cells towers, micro waves etc, Id believe that, its not like theyve conducted studies and proven any of it is completely safe.
Replied by Pat
Pa., US
Thank you for your advice, James. Am now down to I 12.5 dose of Toprol a day and using hawthorne (500) mg once a day with the mag (maybe 500-800) a day and feeling better. Palps come less severe and slower when I get them. Hoping that takes care of all the fast erratic episodes of AF. Will report back as time goes by.

So glad to have some relief and not to feel so desperate as to get ablation! Talking to you and earth clinic has helped me lots! Just for the record, I also have been taking coq10 and fish oil and a few other supplements for some time now also. Going to pick up the molasses this week and start that too. Even cancelled my appointment for tomorrow! If all goes well, will let the md's know later on. I will reschedule in a month or so!

Your advice about not giving up on the healing helped too! I'm sure this is some kind of deficiency or something and I always have been! Kept trying to tell them that but they have another agenda! Do also take baby aspirin about 4x a week. And when I remember Vit E few times a week also just to let everyone know! That keeps my blood thin! So does at least 24 oz of water a day! Don't intend to take Big Pharma blood thinner! They tell me by age 65 I should be on it! Hope not!

Replied by James
Pat, that sounds great and promising. I like the slow approach of weaning off the "crutches" and building a foundation of healing. You will possibly find that the Metop is basically adding little to your latest success and will feel like a million bucks when thats gone. You can always grab it in a pinch, I have that and Flec on hand as PIP, but have never used.

Thats the thing with Meds vs supplements, we live in a society of having it all now and drugs allow us that instant fix. It can take as long as a year for us to build stores of Magnesium and other minerals. I just read somewhere that women need much more Mag than men. I like that you cancelled you appt, but suggest you do find a good Naturalpath MD. They arent cheap, and most insurance won't cover, but in the long run, they will save you bouque bucks and aggravation. Mine lets me call him for free when I need advice. One thing he added that I have not taken is Lily Valley. Its like foxglove, digoxin natural, but not as strong. Great anti arrhythmia. The thing with blood "thinners" is, they're not! They once again blocked something, just like all drugs do. At 60 I'm not looking to sign up for all that Pharma has in store for us.

Replied by Pat
Pa., US
Now up to 2 doses of hawthorne per day and it works pretty well. Although when I started it I had alot of palps for about the first week or so.they seem to have calmed down. Also pumped up the mag to about 600 a day. And still taking the Taurine and the probiotic with a few additional supplements ( vit C and E). Only taking 12.5 toprol because I believe it does nothing for the afib! Fish oil is another one I started! Will keep going with these for a while.

I can even have 1 glass of wine when I go out (which I couldn't have before) and I don't go right into afib! For some reason the alcohol put me right into afib after the first sip! That really made me angry! No more alcohol ever again??? No fun! Believe me, I was never a big drinker but I do enjoy a cocktail when I go out once in a while!

I'm looking for a good "naturopathic doctor" in the area but not a lot of them around in close proximity! It would be nice to get some advice from them, I agree! Helps having all your input with everyone else! Gives me hope for this lousy condition! I think we can get a handle on it if we try! And I sure wasn't with the traditional M.D.'s! It was just getting worse! I honestly think the toprol at times can cause afib! And the "flec" did too! It was weird.Sometimes they helped and sometimes they made me worse! Very strange! I just couldn't figure it out! But I am learning a lot! Hope our luck holds out!

Replied by James
Too funny on the wine/alcohol myth. After my first few episodes, cardios wanted to sign me up for AA. My friends laughed because Im always a beer or 2 behind them. So I quit for a year to humor them and went into AF still. Sure, throw booze, caffeine, stress, and all the other things that deplete minerals, mainly Magnesium into the mix. I drink 4-6 glasses of wine a week now, no issues, just load up on mag and haw before and after.

12.5 of Metop is such a low dose, I doubt it will put you in or keep you out of AF. If youre staying out tho, just keep taking it for now, not as dangerous as the Flec and others. Yes, the meds do work and may keep you out for a time, but alas, like all meds eventually stop working as they deplete all the good stuff too.

It took me a while to find a good ND who as familiar with AF and cures. Lucky to be near Vt where there are hundreds and found a good one near Burlington. He lets me call him for free advice any time, and only see him when I feel I need to. Some states are a challenge for NDs, only 17 license them. Happy hunting!

Replied by Pat
Pa, US
To James, NH, US: Still hunting for a good naturopathic m.d. but trying to treat myself, in the meantime.About drinking the wine, do you just take more hawthorne & mag when you have a glass? Also stopped eating yogurt. When this all started I was having yogurt every day. So I thought I would stop and just having one the other day brought on the afib about 7 hrs later.After not having any for a while I am starting to wonder if yogurt has anything to do with it! Who knows! Also, how did you go off the metapropolol? I'm taking only 12.5 every other day now.Should I skip 2 days and take one every 2 days?
Replied by Diamond
Ma., US
Your mind/body should tell you how you feel and if it's right to take more or none at all of what your concerns are. Most people follow their gut/instincts. If you feel ok with out what ever you question is, then keep trying that path, then if you begin to feel as though you should go back on previous regiment then do so. But my self// I don't do doctors very well, I came very close to a heart attack because of taking conventional meds..Follow your heart. It has never led me wrong yet. Good Luck.
Replied by James
Pat, yes , mostly take Mag 300mg before I drink and at bedtime take 300 more along with 500mg Haw. Alcohol raises my HR, hence the Haw. My ND told me also to take Alpho lipoic acid before drinking. Supposedly releases enzymes in liver to deal with alcohol, not sure on that one. I havent really tested that one.

Metop was easy, the Flecainide took me a few months. Yes, I think that is a good protocol, one day on one day off etc. I was taking 25mg twice a day, and then went to night only 50mg, then 25, then 12.5,7.5.....stopped. I would say over 3 months is reasonable.

Yogurt has something in that has never agreed with me and I hardly touch the stuff. Curious what it is that would cause AF tho?

Replied by Bee
New York, US
James.. I read your post about getting off Metoprolol so easy.. I have been doing this for about 8 l/2 months now.. I am going by how I feel but wow this seems like a long time..but I read that I could be overly sensitive to this drug or something..

I am down to 25 mgs. now but it was not without a huge struggle and huge side effects and no I don't have any other issues... I couldn't just cut the pills either . I had to extend the time I took them and then cut them.. There is a site I look at where people have had really aweful time getting off and horrible experiences.. I wish I was one of those..but sometimes I feel like I am doing something wrong.

thank You

Replied by Ron
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In my search for a cure I realized I was using crutches in the form of many supplements. I have also found the root to all conditions such as afib, or all chronic conditions such as asthma, cancer diabetes etc is either toxicity and or deficiency. I have also discovered that the best way to eliminate the toxic conditions in the body is with bentonite clay, food grade sodium bentonite. Small amounts do not cure, large does. The stools should be massive, and daily, not small and occasional. My AFIB is getting less and less to the point that I seldom have an attack and if I do a large bowel movement usually corrects it. Benonite not only pulls toxins from the colon but also pulls toxins from the organs and blood but and it takes at least 5 tablespoons taken daily to work or in pill form up to 80 pills..

Bentonite combined with probiotics will work for 80% of all afibs.The others are heart conditions mine was a colon condition which most of us have. This needs to be done for a year maybe two depending on the individual. I had all day every day 24 hour afib. I would wake up at night or in the morning with run away heart beating loud and fast. I could feel my heart beat in my ears. It was all irritation of the vegus nerve that also controls the heart, the source of which was inflammation coming from toxic conditions in the colon. Other symptoms were heavy mucous after eating, heavy mucous in the morning upon waking and showering. Heavy mucous coming from my nose when having a bowel movement, tinnitus, constipation or diareaha, in a cycle. The constipation would get better until it losened to diareaha , then back to the constipation. Back and forth and back and forth. Now its all healing up nicely with the bentonite. I also use psyllium and or oxy colon cleanse because the bentonite can bind you up a bit when you take a lot but those massive stools sure move out the toxic waste. If you are not having well formed stools at least once a day you are accumulating toxic matter that could be affecting the vegal nerve that affects the heart. This was the holy grail for me.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
HI U RON, , , , , , , , good post. The natural folks have a debate as to which is more important ...... the colon or the liver. I say both and treat them equally. As I am on the shady side of the mountain, I am paying more attention to Hulda Clark....... it's a parasite thing. Those buggers will get you in a natural born minute and our MD's have no clue.


Replied by Tony
Windsor, Ontario
Hi Ron, what kind of bentonite clay did you use, what is the dosage and how long? Thnx in advance
Replied by Hazel
Toronto, Ontario
@ Pat: The "rat poison" will likely save you from getting a devastating stroke, which is much worse than AFIB vit C, garlic and aspirin will thin blood but urgently needed is clot reducing, less clots forming in the pool created by afib enough that when the heart suddenly goes into correct rhythm, there are no clots to be pushed out into your blood stream. Do not be stubborn, you need it; you just have to be monitored for the therapeutic ÍNR range and kept in this range by a doctor that understands the process well to manage it correctly and to eat consistent vitamin K veggies.

Trust me, I am a victim of being too stubborn (3 years post stroke and now disabled with a useless left side/hand for being stubborn), you need it you just have to be monitored for the therapeutic INR range and kept in this range by a doctor that understands the process well to manage it correctly. The trouble with medical community they're trained to pass out drugs but are very poor at explaining why sometimes they are life saving/ very important, I now wish I was not stubborn as a mule but you know what is said about hindsight 20/20, if you knew how to explain the process well rather than just say you have to take this I immediately thought of how the rats bled to death on this cocktail and I was scared out of my mind because I did not know there was a safe way to use the poison that has been tried and proven over many years in several countries across the globe including USA/Canada/Australia and Europe - all doctors should be made to take extra English Language classes on how to explain what they know to patients properly as mandatory requirement before they are given licenses to practice chosen profession.

Replied by Manny
Texas U.s.a

Do some research on HBOT (Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy) for your stroke. The general concensus is 40, one-hour dives for starters. Remember to get HBOT in a hard chamber, not the soft, inflatable chambers some clinics use.

An authority on HBOT for TBI (traumatic brain injury) is a physician in the New Orleans, La., area. His book is, "The Oxygen Revolution."

Replied by Pat
Ron, I was reading your post and thought I probably have alot of toxins also. Maybe even parasites! That's pretty gross! But... what can I take to detoxify? I do have a cup of detox tea few x a week. And am taking supplements Mg, Haw, Taurine, etc.Episodes have gotten less severe but not less often! Appreciate your post!
Replied by Pat
To Hazel: So sorry about your stroke. I know that sometimes we need to take the blood thinner but so far, the doctors haven't asked me to go on it.I understand that the "magic" age they choose to suggest that you begin is 65yrs. I'm not there yet. So, I also think that there are supplements that are blood thinning and can be used for such. I haven't researched all this yet since I have not been advised to take this med yet. And who knows if they prevent all strokes in everyone or not? Wish you the best in your recovery process! Thanks!
Replied by Nh
Check out cayenne and garlic for their blood thinning properties, if you are interested in an herbal alternative.
Replied by Jay
From the research I've done on meds, I found out most of them CAUSE the same disease you are taking them for. I.e., heart meds CAUSE heart problems thus making them worse and possible killing you. See Dr Sherry Rogers, M.D., "Is Your Cardiologist Killing You?"


Aloe Vera  

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Posted by Will (Northbridge, Ma) on 12/10/2015
5 out of 5 stars

I have been reading many different A-Fib sites and blogs and have not seen any mention of Aloe Vera softgels. It really has done wonders for my a-fib issues. Has anyone else tried this supplement?

Replied by Dave Donate

Fountain Inn, Sc
Hello Will,

Very interesting info on the use of Aloe Vera helping A-Fib. I've used Magnesium which I've seen work over and over. Aloe may work because it has 20 minerals in it, Magnesium being one of them. If we assume that A-Fib is often related to mineral deficiency (especially Magnesium) then it would make sense Aloe could work.

Atrial Fib Remedies  

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Earth Clinic readers describe how they tested dozens of home remedies and natural supplements in the interesting thread below. This thread originally started in 2009 and has been picking up speed since 2014!

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Atrial Fib Triggers  

Posted by Darien (Boston, Ma) on 01/19/2016

SOY is the WORST trigger for me! I would tell anyone with A Fib to steer clear of anything with soy oil or soy protein, any kind of soy!

Posted by Wild Rose (North Mississippi) on 12/18/2015

I have had Afib for years. I worked nights as a nurse and finally gave in to going to Cardiologist. Meds were given and I'm allergic to most things. I'm even allergic to the rat poison! my triggers are high copper foods, nitrates, nitrites, white sugar, MSG, insecticides, pesticides, herbicides, olives, olive leaf, kava kava, sunflowers and their oil, Vitamin E, Olive oil, any vegetable oil, soy products, the cultures in yogurt ( the L-Bac. (sp?) I have seen cause seizures that is in yogurt in a patient I had) avocados, root beer, eggs with all the new added omegas added and the other additives trigger my afib and ocular migraines. there are many more triggers but these are the worst of them.

I took medicines for years and they messed up my heart beat worse than the afib did so I quit. I took they had tried me on 5 others I could not tolerate at all while in the hospital in 2005. I saw my blood pressure on the monitor go to 258 / 178 and I always converted back to regular rhythm on my own. a quick help in the hospital was my husband going for some celery, it always helps me convert back. I got so bad with afib and arthritis and weight from all the pills I had to quit work and go for disability.

I started digging me out of medicines and started natural things to see if I could figure out how to help myself. I have been reading on this site for about a month now and have started with some of the suggestions for blood pressure problems and for afib that I had not been trying. I was taking homeopathics mag-phos #8 and Arnica Montana 6X for my a fib before finding this site. I read about this combination on a site about a man outliving 5 of his cardiologists so I figured if he could so could I. it worked much better than the meds and I still take them some but I am taking the amino acids and bilberry (this strengthens and repairs the blood vessels) which I need for I now have narrowing blood vessels behind my eyes on my optic vessels from the high blood pressure if it continues I go blind)and ginko and vit C 750 mg and Vit D3000 IU. I still have severe bone pain and no one has ever come up with why I do have this pain.

I have a master herbalist that helps me with doses for I am just learning about these things and will never go back to taking meds nor giving chemicals to folks again. it was time to renew my licenses but it has been 5 years since I practiced so I am letting the nursing licenses go and would love to find something natural to help people with to truly help them be better after I get better myself. MY weight went way up on the pills and finding something that will help with weight lost is not easy.

Thank you for your site. I also take black strap molasses and chlorophyll for indigestion. MY diet still needs much work. thanks for all the post and for all the help this makes my decisions about my own health much easier and encouraging to know I'm not the only one against doctors orders.

Replied by Leslei
Alaska Usa
I just read this in comments earlier and read online that afib can be from parathyroid tumor, and can cause bone pain! Check it out. I am going to get my calcium checked. There has to be a reason for this affecting so many people. The diet we had before we all got smarter probably the biggest reason, I don't smoke, I can't drink, I eat all healthy, no sugar, no wheat, no fluoride, no Milk, all organic, very little fruit, lots or organic vegetables and meat, nothing out of can, no RX, but lots of supplements, vitamins, magnesium, potassium. Still if I sweat, get in sun, take a sauna, exercise, drink alcohol, eat chocolate, have any caffeine, my heart goes into afib. Had a surgery to check and see if my second "pace maker" was firing again, and he found nothing wrong.

We are all born with two, but one quits working when one is working correctly as you develop fully before and after birth. The only thing happened after that surgery was I got a blood clot and then my pulse went from a normal 65 to over 90 during rest, sleep, that was 4 years ago and it just now is at 78 on resting. I am thinking after reading about the excess calcium causing heart problems, this might be the reason for my Afib.

Replied by Dave Donate

Fountain Inn, Sc
Hello Leslie,

How much magnesium are you getting a day? I take about 500 mg. Lack of Magnesium is the most typical reason for afib issues. That coupled with a virus infection on or in the heart can make the problem worse. The virus issue is the curve ball. Have you had any significant and long lasting infections in the time prior to your afib? If so, that might be a clue that the afib is being caused by not only possibly by a lack of magnesium but also a virus. If me, under such conditions, I'd be on two tablespoons of colloidal silver three times a day for a month; constantly monitoring the condition. I take that much CS every day just to keep virus infestation low.


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Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 10/31/2015
5 out of 5 stars


HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

It appears that I was late to this health thing as I now have atrial fibrillation in addition to cancer and a bad back. Last night was the third time I have caught my pulse rate over 156. I did all the medical tests to see if what my problem was and the tests all came out normal. I have an appointment with my cardiologist this Tuesday and I'm sure I'll be wearing a monitor because this thing comes and goes.

Last night I awoke with a bad sensation and called my Tractor Driver to get my monitor and see what was happening. My blood pressure was OK, but my pulse was 156 and stayed that way until I added Cayenne extract to a power ade and drank that and watched my pulse go to normal. This trick is old as the hills but our present doctors have no clue. I know I have a problem, but I am not interested in taking rat poison to stay alive.

Atrial fibrillation is an electrical problem and there is the way I intend to solve it.

So here I am with cancer, a bad back, and a heart problem. I am not throwing in the towel. I will solve all of these using natural methods. I want all you birds to keep up with my saga. If I get to my age goal of 92 then you need to heed my messages, otherwise, do what your doctor says.

We go Thursday to get our fall blood irradiation instead of a flu shot. This too is old as the hills.

If you are 50+ then you need cayenne extract in your gun bag. It will save your life if you have a heart attack or a blood clot. If you don't carry a gun bag then you are not worth saving.


Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , ,

This ditty is not in the running with Bill's post on Alzheimer's and Fungus, but I'm not in the same league with our friend. I do think this is interesting. I wrote this to personal friends and thought it may be perk your mind as to why so many old folks are on rat poison. I am just copying and pasting what I wrote my friends.

HI YA'LL, , , , , , , , , , , , , Reading my cancer book today and one of the authors is big into chelation so I went to his site and here's what he has to say about what it can do for you. He knows far more than I , so I hope this tells you what you want to know. You really need to get the skinny from someone like this guy, instead of me.

Got in from my cardiologist and he put a heart monitor on me for 30 days and will do an echo test on me next week. He thinks I quit breathing at night and my oxygen gets low and my heart goes crazy trying to get blood to my body. I think he may be right as it only happens when I'm prone and sleeping.

My Dad smoked Camels and burned up his lungs and his heart did the same thing. I took him to L.R. and they told him his problem was not his heart but his lungs, and he had burned them up. He died in a doctors office from a massive stroke brought on by his heart fibrillating , the blood pooling, and forming a clot, and when his heart started to beat properly then the clot hit his brain and he died instantly. My doctor's dad did the same thing.

He said I would probably have to get on rat poison. In the meantime, he told me to take a baby aspirin at daylight and dark. I will , but there has got to be a better way and I have some ideas.

This is an oxygen or electrical problem and not a blood thinning problem, but if you solve the problem then you don't need Big Pharma's pills, nor see the Cardiologist every month to test you. Follow the money. The more I talked about the natural things we did to stay healthy, the more irritated he got. Sounds right to me.

My recent stress test showed that there is no obstruction in my heart blood flow, so I know that chelation works. I did some 60 + chelations….. so it cost me over $6000, but I did not spend $400,000 for a couple of by-passes and I'm still alive. To be continued.........


Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Well life is still interesting as I spent half a day trying to get my heart beat to normal. I stayed in the 176 area for about 3 hours. I pulled every trick I knew to get it down. I finally took a xanax and half a soma and it went to normal.

I am a kick ass and take names kind of guy and that is probably my problem. Right now our government has me upset. The numb nuts are trying to get Ben Carson because he was offered a scholarship to West Point in high school. The news media can find no record so they are saying he is a liar. They got the lying thing right but it is they who are the liars.

Good people, we are at a crossroads. If things continue like they are going then your health will not be a consideration.

Hey, I'm as spooked as you. We do the survival things, but that may not be enough.

Do the Boy Scout thing and BE PREPARED.


Replied by Robert Herny
Ten Mile, Tn
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , went to my hip doctor today and he said my pain is not from my hip but my spine. He wanted to give me a cortisone shot, but I declined. I have already lined up 5 appointments in Atlanta for ozone shots. He said my hips were no where close to replacement like my right knee was. I did not tell him that the ozone shots have already addressed that problem. It's a money thing. I spent a few hundred and he wants $40,000.

He is a nice guy and I did not want to get into a pissin contest with him about ozone regenerating cartilidge. He is a college grad- u- -ate. Whoo pe doo.

Tomorrow I go to Knoxville for an echo heart test to try and determine why I am going into arterial fibrillation. It appears that for me to get to 92 is going to be a chore. I love the challenge.

Most folks get into deep sheet and want to give up........ me , I just got a new challenge. Like I keep telling you sorry rascals, don't give up, keep fighting. You can whip most health problems with knowledge.

Out of spit ======ORH==========

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
ORH, thank you for your upbeat spirit. I needed that today.
Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
HI U Timh, , , , , , my Ky neighbor. I reads a lot and sometimes know just enough to be dangerous . I know you have been following my atrial fibrillation situation and it has improved since I started doing more magnesium and electrolytes. I bought a oximeter and now know what my oxygen level is when my heart goes crazy.

Because of all the stuff I do, it stays at 98 to 99 except when I have one of these spells in the middle of the night and it is down to 93. I now think that my cardiologist is right, and I stop breathing during the night. That then causes my heart to beat like mad trying to get oxygen to my body.

Finally, I bring you into the picture. My research shows that L-carnitine can greatly help my plight. What say you and how does this supplement work? Thanks for your counsel.

Our fall garden plants are absolutely luscious . I need to send a picture. We finish cleaning our spring tomorrow so it will be ready for next summers irrigation. We burned off next years garden site with a new LP torch, which should reduce the amount of weeds we have. As I have said before....... I cheats.

Yo Tenn. Buddy. ======ORH========

Replied by Maura
5 out of 5 stars

Dear Robert Henry,

Concerning your atrial fibrillation, I read in a medical journal (Biological Trace Mineral Research) that low zinc was associated with episodes of atrial fibrillation after bypass surgery. I suffered with this condition so I thought perhaps I was very low in zinc as foods are so depleted in minerals now days. I also read it was safe to do high dose zinc for 3 months. I took 100mgs of zinc gluconate per day. The episodes very quickly became less intense, then less frequent and by 3 months had stopped. I now take 25mgs most days and I have not had a recurrence for 2 years. I hope this is useful to you.

Replied by Timh Donate


Carnitine is used readily by the heart in energy production. Long time back my gallbladder got plugged with stones so bad that my heart was going bonkers, which was a little frightening to say the least. Well I started taking Magnesium w/ good results but then got bad off again and bought some CoQ10.

OK, I'm out there on the farm cutting Tobacco and I really needs my heart & energy so I popped 30mg CoQ10 and was once again able to make it to the end of the row and end of the day. I soon was told by a Chiropractor that I had gallstones and the flush was like lifting a boulder off my back and my heart function returned to normal.

OK, fast forward a couple yrs and I'z got anemic really bad. One day I visited my parents and was so fatigued and week that I wasn't to sure on whether or not I could make it up a long flight of stairs to my apt, as I had just been winded by a short staircase. Well, just so happens I had only a few tablets of L-Carnitine with me for any emergency heart problem that might arise. I took 500mg and within minutes my energy was very much restored, heart no longer hurt, and was able to ascend that length of stair without a great struggle. This was definitely positive proof to me the Carnitine is very valuable in heart conditions.

Dr Sinatra also recommends CoQ10, D-Ribose, along with Carnitine and Magnesium for optimal heart function.

Replied by Bee
New York
I had the same sort of experience Tim .. I had gallstones and I believe giving me palpitations along with the meds I was given for high blood pressure.. beta blocker.... Well I started getting rid of the gallstones with flushes and then started taking a lot of magnesium and yes the COQ10 and carnitine .. I am off the beta blockers now and no more gallbladder pain.. Havent had a palpitation in a very very long time... I k now walk a lot . more than I ever have and there is no more pain in my gallbladder... I do follow Dr. Sinatra and there is where I also got the info. I haven't done the Ribose yet..
Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
HI U OLE PATOOTS, , , , , , , , , , , ended up in the ER this morning when my heart went crazy again. This time my pulse went to 176 but my BP went out the roof. They got it down after several hours. They did get an EKG when it was out of sync and when it got back to normal and sent to my Knoxville cardiologist.

The first line on the side effects of the drug prescribed for me is: " It can cause very bad health problems that may not go away, and sometimes causes death."

Wow, that sure takes a load off my mind. Between cancer, heart problems and an aching back, my life is about as interesting as I can stand. Don't fret for me, because I always find a way to solve my ails.

When I left the ER , I told all that I truly loved them but hoped I never saw them again. They hooted.


Replied by Rsw

Glad to hear you are back on your feet and out of the hospital. It must have been pretty upsetting for you to head over there! For some reason I keep thinking some medical grade MJ may be of help, both for the high blood pressure and heart rhythm. I just read that it can help with eye pressure in glaucoma, and thought it might help settle things down, even the cancer (per Rick Simpson) Is there anyway you might get your hands on some that stuff that looks like black tar? Is a trip to CO in your future? Ha! Just a thouqht. Have a great Thanksgiving and take care. Give our best to your tractor driver, too.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
HI U Rsw, , , , , , , , , yep, you right. It hurt my feeling not to get my pulse down. I tried for about 3 hours and pulled every trick I knew. The thing that the ER doctor said is that my pulse had headed down before their stuff had time to react so he was impressed. I can't believe he did not know that cayenne extract would save you from a heart attack or a stroke. I got this from an old doctor some 25 years ago. I have kept it in my gun bag for some 20 years. I have my gun bag at my side at all times.

I have only seen Marijuana once when the DEA found it on our hunting lease some 15 years ago. When we approached the scene, I ask what was going on. " Who are you". This is our hunting lease. He then hollered to his team..... "here he is". Scared my mule and we told them that this was the first marijuana we had ever seen. He then told not to worry, that they had already investigated us from A to Z.

Since then I have watched the video of the guy in Nova Scotia who raises it and boils it down to a tar and cures his friends cancer. He too is in trouble.

I am convinced that the war on Marijuana is promoted by Big Pharma. Just like the killing of the supplement Anatabloc made from tobacco that was curing arthritis. It works ....... just too bad that greed got involved and the Gov of Va had to go to jail. Now it is not available.

Tobacco is a herb used by the Native Americans since the beginning of time. What killed cigarettes was not tobacco, but the arsenic that was spread on it to kill the boll worms who ate the bolls and the pesticides sprayed on it in the warehouses, and the fungicides sprayed to keep down the fungus.

Enough for one outing. =====ORH======

Replied by Janet
Dear Robert Henry,

As I read this, Ted's writing on edta Chelation keeps popping up in my mind. His warning about calcium EDTA and heart issues. I have tried to find the particular email, alas cannot. But I am not Computer smart. I have walked away thinking you know this. But the nag in my head keeps drawing me back, to at least mention it. I know he said most IV's are done from calcium EDTA. I bought the trisodium and use it by drops. Just maybe something to look at.

Blessings, Janet

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
HI U JANET, , , , , , , , , , , , , , found lots of articles by Ted on Calcium EDTA. I did Disodium EDTA Chelation.

What I did find is a snotty article by Wikipedia. Of course we all know that this is a fictional rag written by self appointed experts.

I do thank you for thinking of my plight. It is what it is.


Replied by Patrick
Hey ORH.......been reading all your posts figured I'd take the time to give you some info that should help you. Look up everything by Dr Wallach on YouTube. He has a product put out by Youngevity that has the 90 things our bodies need. They are 60 rare earth minerals, 16 vitamins, 12 amino acids and 3 essential fatty oils....well actually the Tangy Tangerine only has 87 as it is missing the 3 oils but it also has 115 Super Juices.

If our bodies have all 90 it can not get sick and if you have a problem and start taking it the body can regenerate parts and repair almost anything.

Look for a video called, "The Secrets the Globalists don't want you to know about. It is Dr Wallach and Ben fukes who is a compounding pharmacist and you will hear info that will blow your mind. I sware by Tangy Tangerine and if you start on it your life wiil be changed.

The cheapest place I have found to buy it is if you buy 3 or more. It is about $50 a canister but that will be the best money you can spend on your health.

Hoping for You to be healed


Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
HI U PATRICK, , , , , , , , , , as you know I's on new turf and appreciate all the help I can get. I see my cardiologist tomorrow and don't know what to expect . He is a big Texan and has a mind set. I just know one thing. I am also having a tussle with cancer, so I think cumin is not in the cards if I keep doing crucifiers to fight cancer. They do not Gee -Haw.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I appreciate your input and will research what you say.

I thank you ======ORH=========

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn

HI U BIRDS DOIN,,,,,,,,,, me, not so good. As all know, I's a hard charger...... kick ass and take names. Well, it appears that my stressful life has caught up with me because my self imposed stress is keeping me in atrial fibrillation. I can bring it on in a heart beat.

I can get out to it after awhile with magnesium, cayenne, hawthorn and chilling. What I know is to keep my blood dilute least it form a clot and I go to the happy hunting ground.

Excuse me, Hillary got into trouble by saying that she can handle men who get off the reservation and that pissed off the Indians. My comment probably gets their ire too, and I could care less. Everyone is in stress because they are afraid of offending anyone. If you read my posts, the more I offend, the more loves I get. Folks have had enough of this PC crap.

Anyway, we headed to SGI and I am going to try and think good thoughts for a change, while soaking in the gulf waters next week. There I will get positive ions, magnesium and fresh sea food.

One thing I have learned on my live's journey ...... don't get old.



Posted by Marko (Wisconsin, US) on 03/25/2015

I had my first Afib episode shortly after having a colonoscopy. My sense is that the colonoscopy was a contributing factor. I am interested in hearing perspectives from others. Could it irritate the vagus nerve and cause afib?

Replied by Kt
It has been a piecemeal learning endeavor for over two decades that I have become aware of this. I have had four colonoscopies and my heart disturbance was reported while I was under anesthesia. The liquid magnesium citrate had been given prior to the procedures, when this had been reported.

Years later, I can't remember the time frame but I had heard that magnesium citrate was more readily absorbed so I stopped taking my regular magnesium and got the magnesium citrate. I started to have frightening palpitations and "flutters". I was scheduled for a stress test after reporting this to my PCP. It wasn't until I was resting after the test that the rapid flutters began again, right there in the same room. I was then diagnosed with PVC (premature ventricular contraction). I went back on the plain magnesium and they stopped.

Now, I may have a little "rumble" once in awhile. When I look back at what I've eaten, it's always been something in the food or the way it has been cooked. I hope this information will help you. The colonoscopy itself, I don't think would have caused your afib. This is just my opinion and what I have gone through.

Dental Issues  

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Posted by Errol (Miami, Fl, Usa) on 08/05/2012
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Well it has been over 72 hours since my root canal infected teeth were pulled. The dentist showed me the pus that was festering in my gums and had to scrape pus and dead tissue from my bone, do a bone graft and fill a big hole where tissue had died. The other dentist really did a number on me. For years this infected mess called root canals that was suppose to safe was pumping toxic waste into my body affecting heart, my sinuses, and possibly my colon and liver. I was a toxic mess. I am sitting here still with the sore mouth the swelling has almost gone away, the afib is not being noticed at all. I have a bridge in my mouth, not as comfortable as the other teeth but not as deadly either. I suspect it will be much more comfotable when the stiches are pulled on the 15th of Aug. 2012. Any with afib should look up the dangers of root canals and you will see the most affected organ from root canals is the heart. I am sure I have cured my a fib and am continuing with my life as a juicer, a faster, and an aloe vera drinking man knowing now I will hit at least 100 years unless I go by accident.. Those years will not be sick years they will be healthy and wise years. The human body has the capacity to live 120 years yet almost no one in this country ever comes close while persons of other countries those that live in high fertile areas do. Maybe its because they drink that dangerous raw milk every day or eat that unpasturized deadly raw yogurt this sick and stupid country bans.

Replied by Kevin
Brooklyn, Ny
Replied by Donna
Ct, US
Just wondering how you are doing after the extraction? Did it cure your afib? I am contemplating getting the 3 root canals I have removed as I believe it may be causing my afib also.
Replied by My Cat Skittles
Philadelphia, Pa
Someone replied to this website stating that he had a fib and the dental procedure of root canal was actually causing tremendous infection. I have a fib and am scheduled for root canal of three teeth. Is there an alternative dental treatment other than root canal? Thank you.

Detox from Chemicals  

Posted by Kathryn4 (Maryland) on 09/13/2013

Just to mention that Afib can be caused by chemicals that have gotten into the heart that you have been exposed to. Clear out those toxins and the heart could be better.

Replied by Pat
How would you suggest detoxing the chemicals from the body? Is "detox" tea once a day sufficient, do you think? Or supplements? Garlic? Thanks.
Replied by Patrick
WOW! you are RIGHT ON! My afib was caused by heavy metal poisoning from Chemtrails. For those of you who do not know what they are I suggest you research them because they are SLOW KILLING You, your kids and your grandkis!!!!

What happened to me was I was in the mountains and a huge forest fire started and I got caught in all the smoke. When Chemtrails are sprayed in our skies they fall to the ground after a few hours and land on the trees. When a fire burns the trees all the chemicals get burned up too and there are about a dozen VERY TOXIC Chemicals like aluminum oxide, strontium, barium, chromium, lead, arsenic, cadmium and even radioactive isotopes!

So my lungs were saturated by the chemicals and the next day I got pneumonia like symptoms that developed a huge bacterial infection in my lungs which damaged my heart and that's when my tachycardia started and shortly there after my afib.

All my doctors are not schooled on chemtrails or heavy metal poisoning and do not understand anything about chemtrails and don't believe me when I try to explain.

I have been taking Tangy Tangerine (look it up) and detoxing with Bentonite and Zeolite which is supposed to be the best toxin there is. Krewchef had cookies made with Zeolite and passed them out to all the children in Russia after the Chernobyl radiation innocent many years ago and it kept kids from getting Cancer and/or radiation poisoning.

It may take a long time for me to completely detox but until then I'm taking coreg, metoprolol, digoxin and linisipril for the heart failure high blood pressure I got too.

I was the picture of health before that ill faited day that I was forced to breath in all the chemical laced fire smoke.

Foods to Avoid: Worchester Sauce  

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Posted by Heather (Miami, Florida) on 12/04/2009
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Over the summer I found a great turkey cumin burger recipe online. We made the burger at least once a week and I always used soy sauce even though the recipe also called for lea and perrins worchester sauce (1/2 soy, half lea & perrins). Towards the end of the summer I finally bought a bottle of lea & perrins to test out in the recipe. Well, within 10 minutes after eating my burger, my heart started to beat erratically. A loud thump and then rapid heartbeats. I figured it might have something to do with the L&P, but to make absolutely certain, I added it again to the recipe a week later. Shortly after eating my burger, my heart started the same erratic racing. I didn't add it to the recipe after that and I had no more issues. Well get this...Today my mother calls me and tells me that she was in the hospital yesterday and they had to restart her heart twice because of atrial fibrillation issues which were triggered shortly after eating. I asked her to go over what she ate shortly before the meal and she said, "scrambled eggs with salt, pepper, milk and a very small amount of lea & perrins". I screamed when I heard that and told her that the sauce had to be the culprit. We went over the lea & perrins ingredients...vinegar, molasses, high fructose corn syrup, anchovies, water, onions, salt, garlic, tamarind concentrate, natural flavorings, chil pepper extract. I jumped online and researched "natural flavorings" and what do you know, it is often a cloaked term for MSG!!!

Anyone with erratic heartbeat or a racing heartbeat should carefully examine the ingredients in the food they ate shortly before the episode. Maybe with the Lea & Perrins it was a combination of the MSG plus the corn syrup that caused a problem with the heart. Who knows. They now want to put a Pacemaker in my mother. Wow!

Replied by Kathleen
San Antonio, Texas, United States
While I would never defend MGS as a good thing, it may not be the culprit in this case. Unless you and your mother have a known problem with MSG, it is not likely that you have only had an issue with it in this one product (unless the MSG level is particularly high in this product). Unfortunately MSG and high fructose corn syrup are added to MANY products. You might want to consider some of the less common ingredients such as the anchovies or tamarind, maybe even the chili pepper extract.
Replied by Lisa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, USA
I do understand you are not defending msg, on the other hand I find it highly unlikely that anchovies, tamarind or chili pepper would be that offensive. These are all foods that are good for you. MSG is well-known to have lots of side effects and many people don't even recognize that it is one of the causes of their certain problem, whatever that may be. I, as a child, used to have a severe reaction to it whenever we would visit a particular Chinese restaurant. I would go extremely dizzy, my heart would feel faster, my body would feel numb and I would feel very strange and out of control. I was a very slight child so perhaps my size even contributed to the extreme reaction. My dad would always say I was over exaggerating. That was looong before they began to publicly inform everyone about msg and it became a practice for many Chinese restaurants to state in their menus that there is no msg in their food. I would have to say that I think Heather is onto something in this case for her and her mom. Kudos to you Heather for sleuthing this out!
Replied by Heather
Miami, Florida
Thank you Kathleen and Lisa for your response.

To respond to Kathleen, I don't know about my mother, but I eat tamarind, hot peppers and anchovies without a problem.I have been researching this subject the past couple of days and have found some interesting links......

Atrial Fibrillation and MSG

Here's a good page on MSG:

I also found references to corn syrup and racing heart on Earth Clinic! and
Replied by Jane
Passadena, Ca
Interesting links, thank you Heather. I found one of the website's you linked to about MSG and Taurine Deficiency very insightful.

"Taurine is the body's heartbeat regulator. Deficiency states can be induced by MSG because glutamate competes in the body with another sulfur-containing amino acid - cysteine. The body uses cysteine to make taurine - another sulfur-containing amino acid used as a neurotransmitter. A major complaint of MSG symptom complex sufferers is irregular, fast heartbeats, - atrial fibrillation. The same symptom also occurs from taurine deficiency."

Maybe you and your mother can try supplementing with Taurine?

Replied by Ron
Tavernier, Fl
Replied by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
I was just intending to post a question asking people here how they feel about it. I have just read a very interesting book about MSG and Aspartame written by an American neurosurgeon: Excitotoxins: the taste that kills, and am now in the process of adapting to a life without MSG (I don't drink fizzy drinks anyway so I guess that I don't need to worry about Aspartame). It is not easy as it comes under so many names and then there also the additives that sometimes have it but sometimes not and the ones that often have it but sometimes not! I have come to the conclusion that if you really want to ban this stuff you can hardly eat anything you buy in the shops. But why have things come to this point? Is the quality of food so bad that otherwise nothing tastes anymore?

The other day someone here was saying that it is even injected in chickens and turkeys.... I have heard (maybe not true) that they spray it on fruit and vegetables and that medication contains it as well..... Right now I am using a specialized toothpaste for my gums and I suspect that it might contain MSG too! Why on earth is it used everywhere? Even stuff you buy in the health store contains it!

Now I am reading another book, about E numbers (the additives they add here in Europe) and there the author tells you that there is nothing to fear about MSG and how good all the additives are, only to go on about all the bad side effects! It is a mess........ I used to be a keen cook but right now I don't have the desire to cook at all anymore. Am I overreacting...

Replied by Leslie
New Castle, Pa
You think it's bad now... Wait until they pass Senate Bill 510 and the FDA has complete control over all of our food and supplements. Very scary.
Replied by Merryanne
Orange City, Florida, Usa
Hello Francisca, No, I do not think you are over reacting, I also feel the same way about SOY products being in all the foods, even tuna, it is called vegetable broth and it is GMO. I make my own bread, and cook all my food myself, and wash the vegs good but it is impossible to find totally all clean and healthy foods and water, at all times, but keep trying, we must not get lax in our efforts.

General Feedback  

Posted by Errol (Miami, Fl, USA) on 07/31/2012

I have recently read where doctor weston price years ago found out that root canals were responsible for many diseases. his work was overlooked and buried for over 70 years. it seems that these things leak bacteria with no apparent symtoms for years. only when the gums become inflamed and sore does one realize root canals are not what they appear.

then it dawned on me, the fact that shortly after getting 2 root canals in 1995 i started getting afib and tinnitus. could that be the hidden cause of my afib the doctors are clueless about? could that be the one thing all doctors overlook and all dentists say no way? could it be dental procedures are as deadly and dangerous as the poison drugs doctors give us? could it be the entire medical proffesion is out to kill us? i think maybe so. i will know tomorrow when i have these yanked out and replaced with implants. i will post any changes.

How to Stop Atrial Fib Attacks  

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Posted by Rick (Long Beach, Ca) on 05/25/2013
5 out of 5 stars

I have had arrythmia (atrial fibrillation) for many years and discovered certain procedures to stop the attacks.

Drink Ice Cold Water
If you experience these super rapid heart beats (approx. 180 per minute) you may find relief by drinking ice cold water. Sometimes just a few swallows will do the trick within a minute but drinking a large glass and then lying down maybe required at other times depending on your condition.

Exhale Through Nose
Another technique I discovered was to inhale through the nose to the count of 4 and then exhale through the mouth for a count of 16. You may have to purse your lips to slow the exhalation sufficiently. Do this 4 times and then wait. It may take several minutes before your regular heart rate suddenly kicks in

Stretch Arms Over Shoulders
Lastly, sometimes just stretching your arms and shoulders over your head as far as you can as if to touch the ceiling and holding it for 10 seconds or more can do the trick. This can also be done lying down.

Another variation of this would be to hang on to something like the molding over door way and stretch. Keep your feet on the floor.

Take Fish Oil
I have had little or no problem with arrythmias when I started taking a good quality fish oil for several months. I don't think I can recommend brands here but it should be high in EPA and DHA and you should take the maximum dose.

Hope this helps.

Replied by Pat
Pa, US
can you tell me the maximum dose of fish oil you recommend?
Replied by Artemis
Don't know how valid this is, but my Cariologist just the other day told me NOT to take "fish oils". I said to him, but I eat skinless/boneless sardines and, he said, no, that's OK?I mean the fish oils like the Omegas 3,6 etc. I was recently hospitalized twice with pneumonia and now am told I have AFib. Well, they totally destroyed my body and health in the damned hospital with the thousands of drugs they had me on 24/7. My hair has been falling out like crazy?I have sores all over my body and other damage to my health. I stopped taking all but 4 of the drugs and am trying desperately to develop my "natural remedy protocol" in addition to the drugs. Just wanted to tell you what he said about the fish oils. But of course I will research this and also see a more well informed doctor who also has knowledge with natural remedies. They are killing everyone in this freaking country with drugs?and our damned government is all paid off by Big Pharma and lobbyists. Sorry - my apologies for my ranting but it makes me crazy what I see every day and now I am a victim also?but not for long.

This site is a god send - blessings of the Universe to you all for all your support, advice and for just being there.

Replied by Bee
New York

I am sorry you went through this but you will no doubt be healing yourself and yes I know about big pharma ; doctors and their pills.. I was diagnosed with hbp two years ago and was put on pills but none of them worked. I didn't know what to do and I wasn't educated about it at the time.. then they gave me a beta blocker and it worked a little but then I started to get smart and found natural remedies and a better diet and sun and grounding and exercise.. well they wouldn't get me off the drug and so I weaned myself off but it was a small nightmare. I was confined to my house for about a year with horrific side effects.. I had every side effect in the book .. I am off the drugs now and using all natural things and I am so greatful that I am okay.. I am still learning and tweaking as I go.

Good Luck

Replied by Mat
Brisbane, Australia
Doesn't surprise me that a Cardiologist would say something like that, let alone any doctor. They generally have no idea! There's clinical data to back up Omega 3,6,9 supplementation and the benefits of diets which in them from natural sources. Don't be afraid of questioning your doctor. I did, and found an excellent holistic gp who is switched on!
Replied by Frances
Cabarlah, Qld.
Mat (Brisbane, Australia), I would be interested in knowing the name of your holistic GP.
Replied by Mary
I think the drug Levofloxacin after a bout of pneumonia brought on my a-fib. The pharmacist verified that she has many clients that have reacted the same. She said sometime it is permanent and sometimes not. I just hope it is temporary. A-fib started April, 2015 .. It is August now and the attack frequency has lessen greatly. It has been 2 months with no attack .. and then 2 a.m. this morning ..I had an attack. I have avoided the drugs much to cardiologist's dismay. Magnesium works.. cold water works... and the breathing exercises. but scary every time. I do take the krill oil, coq10, R-Lipoic Acid and other stuff.

Several ER visits and one overnight at the hospital. Scary stuff. Feels like a heart attack. My throat gets tight and pressure in my ears and of course all the rest that goes with it. I will get more regular with the bentonite clay to get rid of toxins. So Thankful for this site. Thank you all for your input. Don't take Levofloxacin or any of the Levoquins if you can avoid it.

Replied by Patrick
Mt Vernon, Wa
I read that Omega 3,6 and 9 can be taken BUT the total amount can not exceed 3 grams (3,000mg) I take 2,400mg of Youngevity Ultimate EFA PLUS. I also take Tangy Tangerine that has Vit E and K in it but my blood thinner is being dosed with those as my baseline and I cant take any more than what I take daily
Replied by Joy
Salem, Or
Thank u for your input and I will try some of your suggestions except for the cold water which seems to actually trigger my attacks!! Other triggers seem to be; BENDING OVER change in blood pressure, LOUD NOÌSES, EMOTIONAL DISTURBANCES, ACID REFLUX and COLD DRINKS.
Replied by Waltz
5 out of 5 stars

Hi Joy,

Triggers from Loud Noise and Emotional Disturbance both are big symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try massaging of Magnesium Chloride oil (from Life Flo or Ancient Minerals) twice daily totaling 20-30 sprays everyday, preferably on the chest and back. You can also orally supplement with Magnesium glycinate pills which do not produce diarrhea like other forms of magnesium. In all 500 to 800 mg of Magnesium per day should start helping you within few weeks.

Replied by Pat
To Mary/Texas:

I have had it for 3 yrs now and always scary! But the supplements seem to help as well as the drugs for me with no side effects Try them too! The doctors don't have much to offer. Just the nasty drugs with side effects and ablation which doesn't have a great success rate either! Have to learn to "manage it" somehow. I have lorazepam for the anxiety that comes with it too. Just 0.5-1.0mg a day usually! Good luck


Posted by Nancy (Woodstock, Ga) on 12/17/2014

Thank you all for your great suggestions and encouragement. I had an irregular heartbeat for about ten year before it became a-fibrillation. Since then, I have a-fib several times a week, sometimes lasting for three or four days. Calcium Channel and Beta Blockers made my a-fib worse, as did magnesium.

A-fibrillation can be a symptom of hyperparathyroidism, a (supposedely) rare disease. The only connection with the thyroid is that these four glands are located on the thyroid. Have your calcium serum tested and if it is high, even a little bit, check out for more symptoms and info. Mine had been high for over ten years; several doctors told me it was nothing to worry about. They were wrong! If it is high, insist on getting your parathyroid hormone tested. I found this out for myself after my doctor told me that my high calcium was nothing to worry about and that several other symptoms I have been experiencing were due to my age (57). It turned out I had a huge tumor.

Most of my symptoms are gone and the a-fib and irregular heartbeat were gone for the first few weeks following the 20 minute surgery. The a-fib came back when my cardiologist scared me into continuing my medicine. I took it for another couple of weeks, the a-fib returned, and I stopped it. I'm better off the medicine than on.

I am still working on getting this under control and have taken note of your suggestions. I tried the 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne pepper this evening and it worked! Thanks everyone for your comments. I am encouraged and will not take the new, even scarier, meds my doctor has prescribed.


Posted by Denise (Oceanside, Ca) on 01/13/2013

I have been doing research on Arterial Fibrillation for my Father. He has been healthy and strong his whole life and a few years ago was diagnosed with AF. He came back from a trip from Africa with a blistering rash on his mouth and chin. He also had toe nail fungus and had them removed. Then he was diagnosed with AT. He had that heart reset procedure that would correct the problem for a while then lapsed back to AF. I found an obscure French study that stated that ALL AF patients they tested also had H. pylori infection. I have had a feeling there may very well may be a connection of some type of fungal and bacteria infection affecting the heart. Parasites can also disrupt the heart rhythm. I will start him on Olive Leaf and Iodine and Selenium, B 2 , B 3 , Coq 10, Milk Thistle supplements and see what the next EKG says. I will let you know.

Replied by Timh Donate

Louisville, Ky, Usa
Denise: if I am not mistaken, I wathced a YouTube video of the author of this study; a scientist with high degrees and a nobel to boot (if I'm not mistaken). He had enough clout to publish the truth and facts of a common health problem. Dr. Sinatra highly reccomends supplementing Carnitine in combo with the CoQ10 as they commpliment each other in a much better heart health result (he published a book on this but I don't know the title. He also has a youTube page). Also, supplementing the Ubiquinol form of CoQ10 is also reccomended. Also, Vit-E (mixed tocopherols and tocotreinols) work very well w/ Ubiquinol and Selenium. For pathogens, Grapefruitseed extract and Neem will work well in combo or rotate with the Olive Leaf. Oregeno is also indicated.
Replied by Anne
Beaverton, Or
Denise, are you able to post the study information for us to locate it? I've been searching, but don't seem to find that one. Thx.
Replied by Andrea C
About PACE MAKERS and atrial fib...

My father's side of the family all have bad hearts, except for his youngest brother who did, and still does, EVERYTHING wrong health wise. He smoked has been a big drinker from really young, always in bed, or over the pub. My Father, who did EVERYTHING by the book health wise, died young from heart problems and his Mother as well. There were 9 children in his Family of them and only 3 now alive. My uncle his second youngest brother, was told weeks after my Father died he urgently needed a pacemaker or he'd be dead very soon.

My cousin, his eldest daughter, became ill on the day he booked into the hospital for his operation, and he asked the surgeon could he reschedule the operation as his child was ill. The surgeon refused and told him if he left then he wasn't responsible for his death and refused to put him back on the waiting list. LUCKY FOR HIM!!!! All his siblings had heart operations and all ended up with worsening heart problems followed by multiple operations.

HE'S NEVER HAD A HEART ATTACK AND IS STILL ALIVE AND FIT AS A FIDDLE!!! That was 14 year's ago and he's now in his late 70's and no problem's and never been near a Heart Doctor, or his own Doctor for any Heart complaint since that day.

Love Andrea C xxxx


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Posted by Laura (Weyerhaeuser Wisc.) on 05/27/2016

Hi my name is Laura, and been suffering from afib for about over a year, been on everything from maltac, metrol, tikison, you name it I was trying some new drug, found your web site and decided to go the natural route, been cardioverded 6 times in the last year, still as I write am in afib but not as bad, they want to now ablation, started on magnesium. I ordered some hawthorn, vitamin c, CoQ10, taurine, cayenne, am still taking warfin to keep my blood thin afraid of stroke, seems in all your conversations nobody mentions blood thinners, and in afib you're at a high risk for throwing out a clot, any feed back on this? Thanks Laura

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
HI U LARA,,,,,,,, been down this trail for a year or so and have done some hard headed things. My Cardiologist put me on Cartizim and it worked but I stopped, because I don't like taking drugs.

My A Frb came back with a vengeance. Thought I was a goner it got so bad, especially with my self induced stress.

My integrative doctor told me that sometimes we must do drugs until we find a natural solution. Thus, I'm now back on Cartizim along with Nattokinase to keep my blood thin; Cardiac Px which contains many herbs especially Hawthorn; Taurine;

I have not had a spell since on this regimen. I also do magnesium by mouth and trans dermally.

When I really get stressed out, then I take a .5 mg Xanax.

When I get in A FIB, I drink warm water with Cayenne extract as hot as I can stand. My pulse rates goes down within a short period of time. Country doctors used this trick in the old days to keep stroke and heart attack patients from dying.

Laura, I wish you well.