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Epstein Barr Virus (EBV) Remedies

Jul 26, 2016


The Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) is part of the herpes family of viruses and a very common infection. In many cases infection causes no symptoms, but in late youth the infection can cause infectious mononucleosis (aka mono or "the kissing disease"). Later in life, EBV infection seems related to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The virus is further associated with two forms of lymphoma and with multiple sclerosis.

Most people have in fact been infected by Epstein-Barr but developed antibodies that protect them from disease development. For those that develop symptoms from Epstein-Barr later in life the exposure simply did not occur in childhood. Exposure later in life may not result in symptoms, but for some it can create life-threatening or otherwise impactful health conditions.

Home Remedies: If the Epstein-Barr virus has created Chronic Fatigue symptoms, some have tried Essiac Tea, colloidal silver, and olive leaf extract to kill off the virus. Natural anti-inflammatory treatments should also be considered for those with active infection by the Epstein-Barr virus.

Remedies for Epstein Barr




BHT  

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Posted by Deirdre (Atlanta, GA) on 06/29/2015

Dear Oscar,

I wanted to let you know that I am on day 2 of trying BHT for Epstein Barr Virus (EBV). I haven't been able to find much information about whether BHT will work for EBV, but figured I'd be the guinea pig and give it a try for a few months if possible.

I got mono in high school decades ago now and have felt intense sleepiness descend on me rapidly every day since that rough time. I finally got a blood panel a few months ago and asked the doc to test me for EBV. Sure enough, I have a high EBV viral load, with the markers indicating a chronic (rather than a new) infection. No big surprise there, but I am sorry I didn't test for this much sooner! My immune system was really clobbered last fall with a series of viruses and a mild shingles outbreak, so I want to work on lowering the EBV viral load to help my immune system.

I bought 350 mg food grade BHT capsules and started with 1/2 capsule in water on an empty stomach yesterday morning and then again this morning. Within 20 minutes, I got a pressure in my head and then a headache. It lasted all day yesterday but got better overnight. But then again this morning after taking a new dose of BHT, same side effects returned. I have NOT taken any aspirin as I don't want it to interfere with the BHT. I will hydrate even more today and see if that helps. Hopefully these side effects will ease after a few days!

I plan on waiting 3 months before doing another blood panel to see if my viral load drops unless you recommend another time frame.

I know you don't recommend taking any other supplements whilst on BHT, but there are a few that I'd like to continue taking, at least a few times of week (ie potassium iodide and a b-complex liquid). Is that okay?

Thank you so very much, Oscar!!

Deirdre

Replied by Oscar Donate

Syracuse, New York
06/30/2015
Dear Deirdre [ Atlanta, GA ]: BHT has been known to lower blood pressure with some people. BHT is also known to act as a stimulant for some people. Sometimes adverse reactions DO occur with the use of BHT. Usually but not always these conditions clear up within one week or less. Some people can not use BHT. If these headaches persist you should lower the dosage used or STOP taking BHT....Oscar
Replied by Oscar Donate

Syracuse, New York
06/30/2015
Dear Deidre [ Atlanta, GA ]. Hello again. I checked into what causes " Epstein-Barr syndrome ". As you probably already know, it is one of the most common HERPES family of viruses that causes this condition.

And this is a serious problem and BHT has been shown to be an effective treatment for all the different herpes viruses.

So where does that leave you ? You have a serious side effect using BHT, but you also NEED a viable treatment. Something that really does work.

Hopefully: with careful dosing you can use the BHT. Very often the initial adverse side effects do clear up within a very few days.

There is at least one book written about the use of BHT to treat the different herpes viruses. Here is a link to: Steven Fowkes " The BHT Book ".

http://www.projectwellbeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/BHTbook-StevenWmFowkes-100903.pdf

That book is FREE and online at the above link. Mr. Fowkes does discuss adverse reactions to BHT and strategies for coping with said adverse reactions.

Basically you simply ramp up the dosage over time as your body adjusts to the BHT.

So: If you are still having these headaches: Lower the dosage used [ take 1/2 as much ] and over time ramp up to the desired dosage.

How much do you weigh? How old are you?

Let us see if we can come up with a dosage plan that works for you....Oscar

Replied by Deirdre
Atlanta, Ga
07/01/2015
Hi Oscar,

Thank you so much for your posts yesterday. Just wanted to let you know that the BHT side effects subsided after the 2nd night. I even managed to take 175 mg twice yesterday, totaling 350 mg.

Would like to mention that, after one of my clients who travels a lot mentioned it to me and then after reading TimH's posts on the subject, I did a humaworm parasite cleanse a couple of months ago. I wanted to do it before undertaking the BHT protocol. I highly suggest a parasite cleanse to everyone! The humaworm site suggests doing a parasite cleanse before kidney and gallbladder cleanses as well as taking any anti-viral herbs. But just be forewarned, these herbs are very, very potent. I almost didn't make it past day 4, but once I did it was smooth sailing. Days 2 -5 are the most intense if you've never done a parasite cleanse before. I was really overdue for one, my God!

Oscar, thank you again for all of your expertise regarding BHT! Looking forward to reporting results from a blood panel in a few months!

Deirdre (EC)

P.S. Am 5'4 but would prefer not to give my weight, lol.

Replied by Elizabeth
Mississippi
11/17/2015
Deirdre, how is the BHT working?

Cortisol Treatments  

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Posted by Rathmussen (Montreal, Canada) on 03/20/2008

I recently read that people who suffer from chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia benefit remarkably from cortisol treatments (75 per cent showed significant improvement, and 62 per cent reported substantial improvement). This is because they have adrenal dysfunction, meaning their adrenal glands, which produce sex hormones and cortisol, don't work effectively. I suspect this is due to viral damage. Cortisol is that stress hormone...you get a shot of it in fight or flight situations for a quick burst of energy, decreased pain sensitivity, etc. Proper levels are important for proper glucose metabolism, regulation of blood pressure, insulin release for blood sugar maintanence, immune function and inflammatory response. Maybe this is why when you exercise it makes it worse because your cortisol levels should increase with aerobic exercise to help deal with the wear and tear. The bulk of cortisol release happens when we sleep, which would also explain why you might not wake up feeling refreshed. If you read up on cortisol, you'll see that if you don't have enough, you just don't have access to energy to burn.

I would definitely try the cortisol therapy, but perhaps there is a more natural way to stimulate the adrenal glands. Research has found that the nutrient Phosphatidylserine (PS) helps balance both high and low levels of cortisol. Usually our brains manufacture sufficient levels of PS, but if there is a deficiency of folic acid and vitamin B12, or of essential fatty acids, the brain may not be able to make sufficient PS levels. So get lots of fish, ridiculous amounts of dark green vegetables, and even rice and soy (or lecithin, I imagine). You can find PS supplements...they used to make them from cow's brains, but now they make a soy lecithin-derived one. (Phew!) At the very least, this nutrient would help with brain fog.

(My interest in chronic fatigue stems from having the Epstein Barr virus. I couldn't shake the fatigue for years and years. I did find getting fish oil and a teaspoon of chlorella everyday finally produced some results, which I would recommend to absolutely everyone!)

Replied by Susan
Stroudsburg, Pa
10/08/2009
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In response to mentioning cortisol treatments for chronic fatigue. I did this, but only for 9 months, as I was suffering from chronic fatigue after mold exposure which caused adrenal burnout. I would not suggest this for everyone. You have to realize that when you choose to do this, it shuts down your adrenal glands. And you risk the possibility of having them not be able to function again on their own. I did not know this when I started the treatment. I gained over 50 pounds as a side effect which was not fun. I can honestly say, it was a temporary help on an energy level, maybe in fact much needed, but I still was not able to function up to par. After 9 months and finding out I risked not having a functioning adrenal glands at all if I stayed on the drugs, I chose to go off of the, I consulted my M.D. about weaning me off of the cortisol, and he agreed. (Note: I did a saliva adrenal test first before being placed on the cortisol). As I weaned off the cortisol, I took a regiment of Adrenal support, Cod Liver oil was also taken 1 tablespoon in the a.m. (as EFA's are important),other supplements, Traditional Weston A. Price Diet, as well as Phosphatidylserine at bedtime, along with a pill called 7 flowers. Sleep is very important...So getting to bed at 9:30 or 10 the latest....was part of my regiment. (your body repairs itself from 10 pm to 2 am) Avoid caffeine and sugar as this stresses and stimulates the adrenals. And if your adrenals are not functioning...caffeine stays in your body much longer, because the body can't function properly to get it out.

If your adrenals are not functioning, then chances are neither is your thyroid, or hormones. It's all CONNECTED. Adrenal fatigue, I have found can not be self diagnosed or messed with without first getting adrenal saliva testing, hair analysis, thyroid and hormone testing. And all has to be addressed according to each persons body chemistry. It is all a delicate balancing act. I tried many avenues of trying to help myself, but found relief after finding the right holistic doctors who understand natural therapies and proper testing. Doctor who helped me Dr. Bogazot.

Epstein Barr Remedies  

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Posted by Emmy (Laguna Woods, CA) on 11/01/2008

Hi how come you don't have a section on Epstein Barr Virus? I would really like to know what people have been doing for it. Thanks!


EC: Thanks for the suggestion, Emily. New page has just been created for EPV!

Replied by Joyce
Joelton, Tn
11/03/2008

523 Posts
Hi Emmy, I would be trying L-lysine 2000mgm. (2 grams) 4 times a day for EPS or any other virus first. It hits a lot of viruses. Of course this is the adult dosage. I would also be hitting the Vitamin C 1 gram every hour while awake up to 10 grams per day. You will get some GI upset with more than l0 grams per day.
Replied by Emmy
Laguna Woods, CA
12/04/2008
Thanks for adding the page! I am trying alot of different things on my friend with EBV will let you know if anything works! :)
Replied by David
Greenville, Sc
10/04/2012
On any viral infection, if other remedies and medical treatment fail, try colloidal silver. Silver can kill a virus. You can buy silver at a health food store. For a virus that is "system wide" you'll have to take the silver solution daily for many months to knock the virus out body wide.

Also, any virus that is system wide is likely in the sinus and ear canal. Place about a tablespoon full in the palm of your hand or use an ear syringe, and sniff up sinus on both sides. May sting a bit on more dominately infected side. Will sting a lot with a bad infection. Use syringe to squirt into ears also. Basically, this is a sinus "irrigation."


Essiac Tea  

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Posted by Dezi (San Jose, CA) on 07/10/2010
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I have battled chronic fatigue for more than 20 years. Sometimes it's baffling; it comes and goes. However, I have managed to keep working all this time because of the natural remedies I've used. The XMRV viral connection makes sense to me. I had Epstein-Barr virus. I treated this with the essiac fomula very successfully, and I am due for another brewing. It might be worth a try. It turns my energy around with a week of taking the brew morning and night on an empty stomach. Essiac is said to kill viruses and cancer cells in the bloodstream. I'd like to add that I took the essiac formula to my cousin and his partner, who had come down with AIDS many years ago. To this day, they still take it, and it has been a literal life saver for them. Chronic fatigue can also have a thyroid component, and also adrenal exhaustion may play a part, or a combination. A homeopathic doctor told me years ago that my mitochondria were dysfunctional. The mitochondria are organisms that live in our cells. They consume sugar and release energy, giving us energy at the cellular level. If this is not working correctly, you will not have any energy being supplied to your body. The mitochondria can be effected by viruses, candida, etc.! I'm currently looking into how to support the mitochondria. Anyone out there have any suggestions for that?

Replied by Kate
Manassas, Va
12/31/2012
Mitochondria are not organisms that live in cells... They are part of your genome.... Handed down from your maternal relatives (maternal dna) (as opposed to nuclear dna, which come from dad).
Replied by Christy
Whittier, Usa
03/28/2013
Dear Kate from MA.. Mitchondria are a structure within a living cell that is responsible for ATP which is a fancy word for energy.. anyone with a basic class in biology would know that.
Replied by Timh Donate

Louisville, Ky, Usa
03/29/2013
Dezi: to reenergize the mitochondria supplement with these nutrients: Quercetin, Calcium Pyruvate, and Magnesium Malate.
Replied by Sarah
Kansas
10/23/2013
I have just been diagnosed with reactivated EBV, have no idea how long this has been going on but I can say I have felt awful for at least a year. I am beginning essiac tonic today and was curious if this is something you do indefinitely or until you feel better?
Replied by Mama To Many Donate

Tennessee, Usa
10/24/2013
Dear Sarah,

I have heard of people using Essiac Tea indefinitely. Since you have been sick a long time, it seems to make sense that you would take it for a good while. I believe Essiac has Burdock Root in it? Herbalist Philip Fritchey says that Burdock Root needs to be taken long term (at least 3 months) to do its job as a blood purifyer. Personally, I have seen it help in a short time, but when I took Burdock, I took it for at least six months.

You will probably be the best judge of how long to take it. If you feel better and wean yourself from it and begin to feel worse, go back on it and wait longer to go off of it.

Also, you might consider adding extra virgin cold pressed coconut oil to your treatment plan. My son had mono a few years ago (also cause by EBV) and was very sick. I did lots of natural things but nothing was helping. Within 2 days of starting him on coconut oil he was significantly improved. I had him taking 1 Tablespoon twice a day, though some recommend you start with less and build up th that. (He was 17 at the time and probably weighed 130lbs.) Anyway, our experience was that coconut oil (a great anti-viral) was effective against EBV.

Hope you start to feel better soon. Please keep us posted on your progress!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Dave
Fountain Inn, Sc
10/24/2013
Hello Sarah,

If the Essiac Tea doesn't help kill the EBV, try colloidal silver. Since this EB Virus is, as you say, re-occuring, that means it's likely system wide and if this were me, I'd be taking the CS for a year or longer.

Good luck on the Essiac though. Let us know how it worked.

Replied by Ellen
New York
06/16/2015
David,

Do you know a clean reliable brand of the colloidal silver? Thanks, Ellen

Replied by Andrea
Qld, Australia
07/10/2015
Hi there, how much essia tea should I have a day for Chronic Fatigue? Cheers, Andrea
Replied by Samwebster
Uk
05/04/2016
Sorry to be so pessimistic, but you really don't know what you are buying with colloidal silver and other supplements. We just don't know the quality and purity. I know from personal experience then there's ionic, who are we to believe? I must say the 3 brands of silver I've had in the UK have had no noticeable effect on anything. So beware.
Replied by Karen
Mi
07/23/2016
Mama To Many, which brand of colloidal silver would you recommend? Seems no one on this site is putting forth that info when people ask. Thanks! :)
Replied by Mama To Many Donate

Tennessee
07/25/2016
Dear Karen,

I wonder if the reason you are not getting an answer regarding a good brand of colloidal silver is that most people on this site that use it often and recommend it make their own? That is the case for me, anyway.

I have had different brands in the house before I started using colloidal silver in earnest. (I know I have used Meso silver and Sovereign Silver.) I would say that I never noticed amazing results. That may not be because the silver wasn't good but more likely because I didn't have a lot of confidence using it and didn't use it much, or used several remedies and was never sure quite what was helping a particular problem.

Also, when dealing with a serious problem, you may end up going through several bottles of store bought silver in a short while and that stuff is expensive...for the price of 2-3 bottles you can buy a colloidal silver generator and make gallons and gallons to use and give away.

I KNOW the stuff I make is effective. It cured my dog of Erlichia (a tick born disease) when doxycycline only had worked temporarily. But I was using a LOT of silver for him daily. 1/2 cup in his water twice a day for weeks, I think? He is a big dog. (He did not turn blue, either. :) )

So, my best advice on this is to buy a generator.

Next best advice is to read amazon reviews, or check with a local health food store. Sometimes people that work there will have some experience with the products they sell. (Hopefully! )

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Art
California
07/25/2016

132 Posts
The problem with silver retailers is that you don't know what is in their products and the only thing you have to go on is what they tell you it is and there is no practical way to know if what they are saying is correct or not. Consequently, like many others I make my own with a high quality generator so I know exactly what went in it and what the finished product is.

The second issue is that most available already made products are so expensive that it almost forces you to make it yourself if you plan to use it at effective doses or for more than one person. If it is for a family then a generator is definitely more practical.

Many manufacturers make a big issue out of the fact that they sell their products in amber or blue bottles or in glass bottles, but the fact is that if the product really is "colloidal silver", then there is no need for that. Colloidal silver that is properly made does not change or degrade by ultra- violet light exposure or exposure to proper type plastic bottles. Often times these products are ionic silver and ionic silver can change when exposed to uv light. Most silver studies are done using colloidal silver and occassionally they will include ionic silver as part of the testing process, but the majority of publicly available studies use CS. Both forms have beneficial health effects, but in the majority of studies the ionic form seems to be more toxic to normal human cells. My preference would be to use nano colloidal silver and that is what I make at a moderately high ppm for the sake of convenience.

Another consideration is parts per million. Some manufacturers make a point of making 10 ppm as opposed to the more commonly available 20ppm, but they charge about the same price as their 20 ppm counterparts. If you want 10 ppm it will probably be more cost effective to buy a 20 ppm product and then add an equal amount of distilled water to it to make 10 ppm. If it is true cs, it will still be true cs once the distilled water is added.

Most products that look like clear water are likely to be ionic, but cs that is of very small particle size less than 5nm can also look clear, but I doubt that there are many manufacturers producing that size cs because that would raise production costs considerably. In many studies, cs in the 10 to 25nm particle size is generally a good effective size range. Going much smaller can have adverse effects on human cells and going much larger can be less effective. Most products are actually in a particle size range and are not all the same size. A well made product might be in the 10 to 20nm range where many studies show good effect. When a manufacturer states a specific particle size, I would assume that it is an average or a mean. To get just one specific size particle would be difficult and would probably require filtering that would add considerably to production cost. Some labs will sell such a product, but it is very expensive.

I use a relatively expensive generator setup, but it has features that I wanted and so I was willing to pay up for those features and convenience because I make a significant amount of cs, but there are reasonably priced generators out there for less. One feature that I would consider a must for any generator is "constant current" because this will allow you to fairly accurately determine the parts per million of every batch you make and should help you to make uniform batches with repeatable results each and everytime.

Once you start making it on your own it is easy and your generator should pay for itself fairly quickly.

Art


Hemophagocytic Lymphohistiocytosis Remedies  

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Posted by Hoke (Oakland, Ca) on 12/14/2012

Anyone know how to treat Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis caused by EBV virus?

Replied by Hoke
Oakland, Ca
03/14/2013
Alternative treament for HLH (Hemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis). Please stop chemo and taper off the steroids. These are toxic and ineffective. Follow protocol below... try for three weeks and you should see the effectiveness......

2 to 3 oregano oil softgels 150mg after meals or 2 to 3 times a day.

2 Olive leaf extract 750 mg after meals or 2 to 3 times a day.

These herbs can save your life. You should see the ferritin levels drop and platelets go up. Nothing to lose, just give it a try. God bless you!

Replied by Matthew
Bellingham
10/27/2013
My wife has been diagnosed with EBV, and looks like she is experiencing HLH (lots of inflamation and pain).

I have found that turmeric is helping, along with pineapple bromeline. Also, there is a herb I ran across which may help. Mandrake root (aka Mayapple). I found a homeopathic remedy that has this, it is Boiron's podophyllum Peltatum. It appears that may apple is the plant that etoposide is derived from. Etoposide appears to help ameleorate HLH from EBV.

Thanks for the oregano oil and olive leaf extract suggestions, we will give them a try as well.

Blessings.

Replied by Sarah
New York
12/20/2014
Has your wife ever been tested for lyme disease? Even if she has tested negative, she can still have it and any/all co-infections. You should read Dr. Horowitz new book, Why Can't I get better. Good Luck.

Multiple Remedies  

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Posted by John (Hazleton, PA) on 12/18/2008
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I am in month 8 of fighting a reactivated Epstein Barr infection. I am gradually starting to feel better, although not 100% yet. Here are my strategies for combating the illness:

1) Cut way back on sweets, sugar hampers your immune system.

2) Ate a lot more fruits and vegetables.

3) Limit caffeine, switch from coffee to green tea.

4) Quit alcohol.

5) After about month 5, I quit using my steroid nasal spray. Steroids lessen your immune function. Also I believe it was adding to my anxiety.

6) From month 3 to month 6 I took L-lysine - 2 500mg pills 3 times per day.

7) Olive leaf extract, 1 500mg capsule 4 times per day for its antiviral properties (started in month 5).

8) Monolaurin, 1 capsule 4 times per day - antiviral (started in month 4).

9) Astragalus, 1 capsule 4 times per day for immune help (started in month 6).

10) A multivitamin 1 per day.

11) I take about 2 tablespoons of coconut oil every day.

12) Apple cider vinegar, a tablespoon in a pint of water daily.

13) I recently started magnesium, 1 250mg tablet 4 times per day. It is supposed to have a calming effect and promote restful sleep.

14) Also, I recently started fish oil, 1 1200mg capsule 4 times per day. Among its many benefits, fish oil is said to help brain function and lift one's mood.

15) Pray...a lot. ask others to pray for you too.

16) Rest.

I am not sure which, if any, of these supplements/strategies helped. Maybe it is just the passage of time and my body's own healing process that is making me feel better, but I want to help that process along as much as I can.

Replied by Terri
Fresno, Ca
03/06/2012
I am a 59 year old woman. I have ulcers in my colon for at least 2 years. I try to stay on a very clean diet. No bread, sugar, processed foods ect. I've tried every natural remedy I can find to try to cure this. It there any thing someone has tried that worked?
Replied by Hoke
Oakland, Ca
12/14/2012
Hi Terri from Fresno, Ca. Please try Aloe mucilaginous polysaccharides (AMP) for ulcers. IT worked for my friend.
Replied by Chris
England
09/28/2014
That is ridiculous, you are overdoing it. Have you ever heard that too much can be just as bad as not enough? That's crazy what you are doing.
Replied by Julia
Atlanta, Ga
10/21/2014
How can eating correctly, taking vitamins we can't get from our now nutrient-deprived foods, taking natural supplements to restore proper pH to an acidic gut, stopping steroids, and taking antioxidants and natural anti-virals to kill a virus "too much"?
Replied by David
Phx
12/04/2015
Julia, I'm not sure where Chris is coming from. He certainly has no background in natural health and nutrition. Keep doing what you are doing and feel free to add additional natural therapies. Luckily, natural therapies at worst, cause no harm, at best they keep us at a very high level of wellness. <3

Olive Leaf Extract  

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Posted by Ted Donate
(Bangkok, Thailand) | 386 Posts

The easiest treatment and simplest treatment for herpes is to use fresh olive leaf or use olive leaf extract. However, in practice I used more than one just to make sure they don't come back again.

Since I am talking about olive leaf, this is also used against Epstein-Barr Virus and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome as well, due to its antiviral properties. As a result, I have cut and paste portions describing in more details the oleuropeins found in olive leaf -- see below. I suspect that olive leaf extract when mixed with apple cider vinegar would increase its antiviral potency, especially when you have the common colds or pneumonia coming.

For those already against vaccination the olive leaf can be eaten regularly as a protection against other deadly viral diseases as well.


EC: Read more about Ted's remedies for herpes here: http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/genital_herpes.html#TED