Natural Detox: Complementary and Alternative Medicine

Last Modified on Oct 31, 2014

Detoxing the body – especially liver detox and cleansing the colon and/or intestines – has become a central focus of complementary medicine. Those with specific health ailments or those wishing for improved general health or to prevent future illness can equally benefit from different options for natural detoxification of the body.

In our fat tissue, our liver, the intestines, and other organs of the body we constantly accumulate heavy metals, industrial chemicals, pharmaceutical drugs, and other potential toxins from our foods and exposure to the environment. Long-term exposure to all of those pollutants in the body can negatively effect the immune system, DNA expression, and general health. For that reason, many health practitioners recommend that we undertake slow and deliberate detoxing diets or supplementation to expel toxins safely from the body without causing negative side effects.

Home Remedies: Among other detoxing remedies, milk thistle is one herb commonly recommended for liver detox. Likewise, bentonite clay, colonics, and enemas are promoted for cleansing the colon and intestines.

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Acetaldehyde   0  0   

Posted by R Adams (Liverpool, United Kingdom) on 02/03/2013

Hi, I tried molybdenum after suffering from and battling candida for a long time, and after around 2 days of taking a high dose recommended by many websites I felt miraculously cured of many of my symptoms, most significantly aching and slow muscles and brainfog. It became very clear that many of my problems were caused by the acetaldehyde produced by the vast amount of dying yeast in my body. Unfortunately after taking molybdenum for over a month I began to develop new symptoms of extreme tiredness and sleepiness during the day. When I described my latest symptoms to friends and family they thought it sounded similar to anemia. I researched the effects of molybdenum and it tured out molybdenum massively depletes copper in the body and, copper defficiency causes a different form of much less common anemia in which the iron levels are normal but fail to be carried in the blood. I have struggled to cure this copper deficiency with copper supplememnts and dietery alterations, for a long time and due to anemia allowing candida to make a come back as the immune system is lowered my candida alas returned. This time I am too scared to use molybdenum again and after just trying pantethine and having some very terrible reaction to it, I am desperately seeking new more safe natural methods of excreting acetaldehyde from the body. I'm hoping there are some herbal remedies that may help. If anyone knows of any other ways of dealing with acetaldehyde, please get back to me.. And BE CAREFUL if you're taking molybdenum in large amounts. It could have been the best thing that ever happened to my health since becoming ill if I had only known to stop after a couple of weeks. Be careful.. It can be dangerous as I've learned the hard way.

Posted by Happy
Up The Creek In, Wv, Usa
02/04/2013
I 2nd the warning that R Adams gave about molybdenum causing severe copper depletion; and in my case that caused a serious cartilage or vertebrae disk damage to the body. It does this by causing a severe copper shortage, or deficiency in the body. This is a well known effect of molybdenum on animals, esp. sheep. 2 people in my family took molybdenum in the 500 mCg. size pill, for about 2 weeks, and both people suffered spinal disk degeneration. The spinal disks began sagging down and allowing the bone vertebrae spacing to collapse, which caused spinal nerve impingements. We began to to get sciatica pains, and our spine bones began to grate together. Our spines were degenerating in just days after starting the molybdenum. I used the internet to try and find out what was happening, and luckily found a couple of good websites which revealed that copper is needed for elastin tissues in sspinal disks, etc, and the molybdenum was causing a shortage of copper. It took about 2 months to get back to normal, after quitting the molybdenum.

I bought $100 worth of hyaluron from a bulk supplier to help with the cartiladge repair, but it turned out to be a defective batch, and did not help any. All hyaluron being sold on the market today is not bio-active. Some of it does not work. When you get good bio-active hyaluron it does work very well and very fast. I could not afford to buy anymore hyaluron after getting the bad batch, so I just done without.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
02/04/2013
800 Posts
Hi R Adams... Here is what Ted from Bangkok says about curing candida:

"Magnesium chloride 60% and ascorbic acid with baking soda will control your constipation well. The magnesium chloride drops are 10 drops 4 times a day, should be enough to control constipation. Tannic acid 1/4 teaspoon per liter of water will kill yeast overgrowth, and so will sodium molybdate 10 to 20 mg per day for a couple of days only. The hydrogen peroxide 3% one capful per liter of water as a drinking water and ascorbic acid and baking soda 1/4 teaspoon of ascorbic acid and 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda will help control yeast overgrowth too. A spray used as air freshener ammonium chloride 5% to 10% in a water and breathe indirectly will prevent yeast and fungus for forming in the lungs. Borax 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon can be mixed into the hydrogen peroxide drinking water to help control fungus also. If anemia condition caused by fungus eating up iron, artemisinin[from wormwood] around 500 mg will stop the fungus from uptake of iron, thus limiting their growth."

Source:http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/candida_questions.html

You should only take the high dose molybdenum for a couple of days with continuous breaks. Molybdenum should also be taken on its own -- with no other mineral nutrients like zinc, Iron, copper etc because these minerals use the same absorption pathways and compete with each other. The lack of iron or anemia in your body is not caused so much by the molybdenum but is more likely to be caused by the voracious appetite of candida for iron -- which also helps to convert the candida into its more dangerous and more virulent disseminated or systemic form. This is why you should generally reduce the intake of rare meats(reduce heme iron) in your diet if you have candida.

Supplement molybdenum 10mgs - 20 mgs for two or three days only then take a break for a few days is the way to take it. You took high dose molybdenum for a solid month which is the wrong way to do it. There is nothing that I know of that so efficiently works with the body to help reduce candida toxins -- as well as helping to kill the candida -- like molybdenum. Taking zinc is also helpful for increasing the alcohol dehydrogenase enzyme in the body to help get rid of excess alcohols that are also produced as waste from candida.

And if you are taking pantethine then you should be taking an equal amount of pantothenic acid (vitamin B5) with it. See this article:

The Candida/Aldehyde Detox Pathway

Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
02/05/2013
1048 Posts
R Adams: I manage this problem on a daily basis w/ MolyB 250mcgs 3x and don't exceed that. I also take 50-100 mg Zinc 3mg Copper daily for immune support and antioxidant support. Since aldehyde is toxic especially to the liver do take some Milk Thistle Seed Extract. For both alcohol and aldehyde detox, NAD (the niacin enzyme) is the major nutrient involved. You may prosper from some type of niacin supplementation or best to simply take NAD or NADH. Coenzyme B2 or FMN is also directly involved in aldehyde detox. You must get back on the MolyB along with these other nutrients and that will resolve the Ald problem.

Maybe to early to tell and I have a host of problems, but the few times that I have used Turpentine has been of benefit. It is said by some as the #1 fungal killer. If Ted and Bills protocols aren't working you may need to also do some heavy metal detox as well as Parasite detox, Turpentine or MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement). MMS is a major oxygen donor, more than H2O2 drops.

Supplementing Zinc/Copper alone can almost double your immune power. Thymus support will greatly increase immune power.

Posted by Larry
Fairfax, Va/usa
03/17/2013
38 Posts
Reply to R. Adams from Liverpool: I found your posting re: detoxing acetaldehyde, of much interest. Can you indicate what type of negative reaction(s) you had from taking pantethine. Also, have you found any promising natural acetaldehyde detoxifiers with hopefully only limited side-effects? Thanks, Larry

Posted by Bibi (Nashville, Tn) on 08/28/2012

I went a little gung-ho a few years ago on coconut oil and on borax. These are both anti-fungal products... And very helpful, too. Just remember your body can only handle so much toxin die-off at one time, and to give it time to detox. If you overwhelm your system, you might end up with extreme muscle weakness and brain fog. Seems like my symptoms match alcoholism, although I rarely drink. After much research, I learned that the body has trouble with metabolizing acetaldehyde, usually a byproduct of alcoholism, but also of candida/fungal die off. I've included a link to a webpage that gives some information about acetaldehyde. My understanding is that Molybdenum (a mineral) breaks acetaldehyde down into acetic acid, so that it can be metabolized & passed out of your body. Also, there is a nice substitution listed for prednisone (pantethine - pantothenic acid). I hope you'll take the time to read this page. Seems very informative. www.candidapage.com/aldehyde.shtml

Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
08/29/2012
1048 Posts
Bibi, I posted this article a few weeks ago here on E. C. As I had been experiencing many of the symptoms listed. One important point, the Aldehydes are a natural byproduct of fungal metabolism NOT the result of die-off, according to this article. I require at least 250mcg MolyB daily but 250mcg 2x daily is best; and 25mg NAD daily is definitely needed to keep me clear. At least 50mg Zinc daily also helps a bunch. The die-off itself is harmful as you seem to have experienced, and especially bad for the liver, so some Milk Thistle Seed would help along w/ the other nutrients.
Posted by Bibi
Nashville, Tn
09/01/2012
11 Posts
I appreciate the heads up, Timh, especially about the aldehydes being a part of fungal metabolism... And not die-off. That kind of surprised me. Thanks for the information you provided.
Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
09/05/2012
1048 Posts
Bibi, you are welcome. When it comes to this scientific stuff one must certainly pay close attention to particulars and details. I forgot to mention one very important aspect of supplementing MolyB --a condition of chronic gastritis is all but completely resolved. My digestion is sooo much better now.
Posted by Claire - S.A.C. Dip. (Diet & Nutrition)
Birmingham, Uk
01/05/2014
If candida is the problem in the first instance i.e., acetaldehyde is the result of candida overgrowth, start eating two tablespoons of extra virgin coconut oil a day along with garlic. They are both anti-fungal and will get rid of the problem - you should expect to see results within about three months. Secondly, reduce your intake of sugar as candida thrives on the stuff.

I suffered recurring bouts of thrush through repeated use of antibiotics following surgery for a ruptured appendix and finally found the solution years afterwards after trying all sorts of things. Keep in mind that you must always treat the root cause of the problem and not just the symptoms otherwise it is like trying to eliminate smoke while ignoring the fire. In addition, the human body is a delicate balance so try to keep everything in moderation.

I hope this advice helps :)

Arsenic   0  0   

Posted by Rebel (Somewhere, Usa) on 11/30/2011

Well now there is another study saying toxic levels of arsenic are being found in store bought fruit juices. My children have been drinking this stuff for years and I am concerned. I had knew what Dr. Oz had said, sometime ago. But when I checked the manufactors, it did not list the ones I was using. This newest study has the brands my children have been drinking.

I have now stopped the juice, Hopefully Bill can tell me of a safe way to detox my children from the arsenic that they have consumed through the juices.

Also, I use the apple juice / apple cider vinegar for gall bladder attacks.

This just goes to show, that the FDA is not protecting the people as they claim. They first attracted Dr. Oz when he put out his study and now another study is confirming this.

Posted by Jenny
Sydney, Australia
12/01/2011
Hi Rebel from somewhere... I am currently seeing a Dr who now specializes in a German Listening Computer that reads your body - heavy metal levels, immune system etc. I had a high level of arsenic and he said one of the main causes of this is from garlic grown in China that is sold in all the supermarkets. I had been eating a lot of raw garlic at night for candida and mold so it rang true. He recommends only eating organic garlic.

Incidentally he doesn't recommend organic flour, cereals or nuts as he says a lot of them have molds as they haven't been sprayed. Hard to tell which is better - the poisonous sprays or the molds! The more I read and learn the more confused I get. Thank you everyone for your posts - I am learning so much. All the best.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
12/01/2011
800 Posts
Hi Rebel... There is an easy way to detox arsenic. Much has already been said on the usefulness of Sodium Thiosulfate(ST) on this site for detoxing heavy metals. But ST is also used by the medical profession to help recover people suffering from both cyanide and arsenic poisoning by removing these substances from the body safely. You can buy this online or you can simply go to an aquatics shop and buy the ST there(where I got my ST). Usually it is sold as a 10% solution and is mainly used to remove chlorine from fish tanks because chlorine is highly poisonous to fish. The dosage is 8 to 10 drops in a glass of water(half this dose for children). ST is tasteless and easy take. But when you take ST for the first time it is likely that you will have diarrhea initially -- but this is only due to the ST flushing out heavy metals initially from your intestines and this normally only ever happens once -- it depends on the extent of heavy metals absorption in your body at the time. When I first took ST, I never had diarrhea so it doesn't always happen.

My own detox strategy, since I regard buying organic food as impossible where I am living now, is therefore completely defensive and preventative. So it becomes necessary for me to detox myself continuously against heavy metals, halogens, pesticides and all the rest. For this I simply use alkalizing, lugol's iodine, ST, Vitamin C and fulvic/humic acid as my basic strategy and I also support my liver(which is the main detoxing organ of the body) and kidneys using Alpha Lipoic Acid, Selenium, Milk thistle and Chanca Piedra. This liver support greatly stimulates Glutathione production in the liver, which aids in detoxing and purifying the blood. I also alkalize regularly and drink green tea quite often and I eat cilantro in salads several times a week which all helps to remove heavy metals and helps to balance calcium in the body.

Posted by Lily
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
12/01/2011
91 Posts
Hi Rebel, I think that it is the apple juice that is made in China that has arsenic in them. Dr Oz said there are only traces of arsenic in them but if you drink it twice a day every day then this would add up to a substantial amount. He said he would give his kid's apple juice but only every once in a while. Maybe once a week I would assume. Lily.
Posted by Tiffany
Forsyth, Ga
02/28/2012
I saw the Dr. Oz episode about arsenic in apple juice too. It was apples from China and South America. I started buying my child Indian Summer brand apple juice. It is made only from U.S. apples.
Posted by Dave
Surprise, Az
06/11/2012
There is arsenic in apple seeds, I would imagine our plants that produce the juice are trying to get all of the juice from the apple and are getting arsenic from the seeds, I would think it happens in all commercial types of apple juice.
Posted by Rouven69
New York, Ny
10/19/2012
To Tiffany see the newest consumer report article in current issue 11/2012. Rice is the biggest concern and especially the one grown in the USA. You may want to check other sources because with pesticides heavily used in the US the inorganic arsenic is now found in high levels in ALL rice (and fruit juice etc). The one with lowest level came from India but that was just one brand. So your apples juice made in US wouldn't make any different and apperentaly even organic unfortunatley doens't make a difference. It's sad how this has been so undedected for years and government is only starting to look into it.
Posted by Joy
Battleground, Wash
04/06/2013
So sorry that you have to put up with the system of greed in your state, I know every state has issues. I was just reading in my book by Ob/gyn John Lee about osteoporosis and hormone replacement of progesterone and how much healthier the users bone density tests became as they continued to apply the hormone cream, it helped with mineral absorption. The book has charts of the increases in bone health from many years of tests collected from many women.
Posted by Alley
Hell, Pa
04/06/2013
2 Posts
it's not just in the juice it's in my tap water.

my body kept falling appart finally borke down and paif for water test and hair folicle. I have not taken lithium in 7 years and I have enough in me just fromt he tap water to never need a script for it.

the found a ton of chemicals used in fracking out here. Haha safe my ass. And it's gotten into the public water supply, the test on file for trace minerals is before the they started frackign, adn to boot, in my state they only have to pay to test for trace minerals every 3-5 years. and they know indanve when that test is comming with the new budgets cuts expect trace mineral testing to go out the window.

kept wondering why I was breakigna bone every other couple months, well that wouldb e the arsenic.

only juices I drank were either naturally juiced, organic cause i'm that picky, and I did used to buy grapefruit juice. but after drinking nothing but distilled water for an age I am realy picky about stuff they put in there.

Barium Poisoning   0  0   

Posted by Davye (San Diego, Ca) on 06/28/2012

I had a barium swallow with follow through. I was hesitant because barium is radioactive element. Later that night the lower part of my face was swollen with some hives. I took bendryl with aspirin as instructed by my Dr.the next day I felt shaky, my heart was pounding, my blood pressure shot up I had breathing difficulties, and I was sweating. We went to the ER by the time I saw the dr my symptoms began to subside. The dr did not think this was from barium! According to research my symptoms are directly related to barium many people have suffered from the same exact experience that I have it is clearly due to barium overdose. On the way home I had similar symptoms, I was so scared. How does one remove baruim out of the system quickly and safely?

Posted by Muslim
Oslo, Norway
06/29/2012
Hi dayve sorry to hear your story about your health problems. I am not a doctor or any such and especially since I have not seen you I cant diagnose you. But if you want to detox barium I can give you a serious advice. You can use epsom salt especially the sulfur part of epsom salt reacts extremely with barium and detoxes it. Magnesium and Calcium also both hinder it to be absorbed into the nerves and bones since it is a aniagonist to calcium and magnesium also I think. What I recomend you to get some epsom salt powder and/or magnesium calcium tablets 2:1 and maybe chlorella could also be helping. Certain herbs are also blood purifying but I dont know any which chelate barium. Trust me epsom salt is a guarantee detoxing barium. I advice you also to read more about barium at wikipedia to know what you are handling with.
Posted by Davye
San Diego, Ca
07/03/2012
Thank you Muslim from Oslo, Norway. I started taking the Epsom salt 1/2 tsp in water I'm also taking the Magnesium, Calcium and chlorella My dr gave me a Kenlog shot to stop the symptoms however I requested half the dose I'm still having a racing heart off and on everyday since I had the barium swallow test, which was seven days ago. It seems unreal that Barium could stay in the body this long, but anything is likely. One has to wonder it the radiation exposure damaged the thyroid but I'm praying that it is just toxic effect from barium long. l faithfully continue the Espsom salt and see what happens.
Posted by Davye
S.d, Ca
07/05/2012
Thank you, all the symptoms are gone! I will continue the regime to be sure.
Posted by M
Oslo, Norway
07/06/2012
Hi dayve, nice to hear that your symptoms are gone! Yes I would suggest to continue magnesium, calcium and chlorella regimen, especially epsom salt. Be careful because magnesium are a little antagonistic to potassium. I would take a little potassium just not get potassium deficiency and get dehydrated. ;) I did also and still have barium toxicity because I had a heart surgery which they used x-ray contrast fluid which is barium sulfate straight to the heart. It got so bad I have never been so sick in my whole life. You can trust my advice these which I have told would work is because it did work for me and others. And it is nutritious minerals which the body needs for enzymes and other biological reactions in the body. I would not take vaccines, they are unnecessary and harmful, Research that. May Allah help you further. Have a good day/night.
Posted by Pat
Quebec, CA
10/31/2014
Muslim from Oslo, which type/brand of epsom salt powder do you take orally? I haven't found any around here. Same thing with a test with Barium. It is so high, I feel electricity all time in the body. So, but my test say I have high magnesium and high potasium in the system.

Bentonite Clay   1  0   

Posted by Hb (Spokane, Wa) on 11/15/2011

[YEA]  I wanted to add something that I had not read in the comments.

I did an external detox that worked very well instead of taking it internally.

What I did was use one teaspoon in a plastic bowl with enough filtered water to more than cover the dry clay, swished it around a bit, put it the window sill in the sun for 2 hours to charge the clay. Next, I 'massaged' the clay with my fingers to get the clumps to become creamy. Once done, it was ready to use.

This may seem unorthodox, but the plastic bags you get at the grocery store come in handy for this detox. I do this in the evening an hour or two before bed, as this detoxes the body while I sleep.

Make sure your feet are clean and apply the clay all over your foot up to the ankle, between the toes, even under the toenails. You should have enough clay to apply 3 coatings to each foot. When you finish with one foot, put on a plastic bag, tie it gently above the ankle and pull the bag forward to allow ample toe room and gently slip your foot into sandals or slippers without ripping the bag in the toe area. Do the other foot the same way.

It will feel slippery, so be careful when you walk around. (Do not walk around with just the bags on your feet, they may tear and allow air to get in and dry out the clay before it can be absorbed).

Drink some water before bed and leave the bags on your feet until morning. Take off the bags and before getting into the tub use a warm moist washcloth to clean the bottom of your feet. (The clay under your feet can be very slippery! )

Keep in mind, if/when you urinate in the morning, if it worked well for you, it may look orange, (much darker than you are use to). That is toxins that were taken out through your system in the absorbtion process during the night.

Never do a facial more than 15 minutes after the clay dries or essential oils will take some time to return and you may get a dry and unnatural tight feeling in your facial skin. If that happens, you can use organic coconut oil to ease the tight feeling and reduce redness. Or use something natural that you feel comfortable with.

I wrote this note so that those having problems ingesting FOOD GRADE Bentonite clay have options for detoxing.

Posted by Mary
Whitefish, Montana/united States
04/04/2013
I love your article (Detoxing Remedies) I want you to know that I have been studying herbs and natural remedies for over 30 years. I also come from a long line of herbalist on both sides of my family.

Nonetheless, I want to give you a heads up on bentonite. This is clay that I have been studying for decades. I started researching bentonite after my father, grandmother and aunt end up with a very bad case of Alzheimer's. I also noticed that even young people in their 20's (in the same town my family lived) had difficulties with basic tasks that required simple thinking. The town they lived in has an abundant amount of betonite everywhere. It is a white claylike powder that is on the surface of the ground. I do not know of anyone that does not have betonite in their front and back yard there. I am thankful that I did not spend a lot of years in this town for I am sure that I would now have Alzheimer's (my parent separated when I was a kid).

Well, my research found that bentonite contains up to 18 percent aluminum. Some studies show that there is up to 85% aluminum. Betonite also contain silica and dioxins (a by-product of pesticide manufacture, a toxic compound that is carcinogenic).

It is entirely up to you to change the article and maybe do more research. I am in hopes that you will correct this on your post for the sake of people's health. Detoxing with bentonite pollutes the body even more with toxins. It could also have very fatal health consequences.

Regards,

Mary

Posted by Dee
Maryland
09/02/2013
Mary, Would you mind giving the name of the town or at least the state where the clay is located?

Broccoli Sprout Tea   1  0   

Posted by Rob (Manhattan) on 06/28/2014

[YEA]  This is an excerpt from a Dr. Weil newsletter... which is some positive news for urban dwellers or anyone wanting to detox.

"Researchers from Johns Hopkins and China's Qidong Liver Cancer Institute tested the effects of a tea made with broccoli sprouts among 291 residents of Jiangsu Province, an area of China that which has some of the worst air pollution in the country. The study showed that a daily drink of a half cup of the tea - a combination of freeze-dried broccoli sprout powder, water and pineapple and lime juice - increased elimination of by-products of the cancer-causing toxin benzene by 61 percent, and boosted excretion of acrolein, a lung irritant, by 23 percent. Increased elimination of these substances began immediately after the participants began drinking the tea and continued at the same rate through the study."

here is a link to further info: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/broccoli-sprouts-help-the-body-expel-air-pollutants-such-as-benzene-say-scientists-9549553.html

Carbon Monoxide Poisoning   0  0   

Posted by Nancy (Colorado Springs, Co Usa) on 10/29/2011

I was exposed to exhaust fumes inside my car and was sick off and on for 3 weeks. I have stopped driving the car (last Wed was last time) but still feel ill off and on. I've been doing hydrogen peroxide footbaths and inhaling, coconut oil and ACV daily. Do I need to go get oxygen therapy at a doctor's or will these symptoms go away now that I'm not driving it?

Posted by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
10/29/2011
359 Posts
Good luck trying to get any help from a doctor, unless you went to the emergency room immediately after exposure. I was subjected to lethal levels of CO at work when the furnace behind my office developed a crack. We had a person who had a machine to check the air quality and he had repeatedly said the gas was high. I couldn't even imagine that it was CO and with full knowledge, no one was called in. Only the doors were opened until it cleared temporarily. I kept thinking I had the flu and felt sick every evening, but by morning I felt better and went back to work.

One night I figured it out, called the air quality guy at home and asked him if it was CO that he was measuring and he said yes. I called my Dr. and they wouldn't even give me an appointment. Told me evening appts. were for people with on-going illnesses, like headaches. I told them I would wait for my turn but said they had nothing available. Went to another dr and was told all they would do at the emergency room was give me oxygen and that is what I had been doing all along (I guess she meant I had been breathing).

It was obvious to me that CO poisoning was taboo to the doctors, maybe OK at the ER. I asked if I should have my brain, heart or liver checked for damage and that was a no, too. I have never filed any lawsuit in my life, have good insurance so it had to be the Drs unwillingness to get involved with any possible workers comp patient. I finally bought a CO monitor and put it in my office. It went off at very high readings and finally someone was called to fix the furnace. It was never my intention to hurt the company but I would have liked to have gotten checked out for my own peace of mind.

Chemical Flushes   0  0   

Posted by Elly (Topeka, Kansas) on 06/14/2011

I was buying BPA free plastics but I read that tests on those plastics revealed that 90% of them contain different estrogen mimicking chemicals. I look at the many supplements I own that come in plastic containers BPA and BPA-free. Do I switch them to tinted glass bottles? How much is absorbed into the supplement by the time I get it? I've also come to find BPA is in recycled toilet paper and contact lenses and the plastics of eyeglasses and lots of other things. Does anyone know what can we do to flush these chemicals out of our body since we probably can't be 100% free of them? Thanks.

http://groovygreenlivin.com/2011/03/bpa-free-plastic-isnt-as-safe-as-we-thought/

Chlorine, Fluoride   0  0   

Posted by Tula (Tampa, Fl) on 12/14/2011

Hello TED. Im 40 and I'm no different than the rest. I'm going to start using borax myself. But my bigger concern is my 4 yrs old son. I cannot afford filter for fluoride removal from water. So I figured I can give him borax to detox fluoride. but he is so young. Is it going to be ok same amount I consume? And the magnesium supplement for him? Plus he likes taking baths. But I smell the chlorine in the water besides he has mild eczema. How do I make the bath water safer for him besides using filter (like I said he likes to fill up the tub, cannot afford replacement filters.) I came cross seaweed is detox almost most chemicals and heavy metals from water. Do you have any info on this? Or baking soda or something what do you think? Thank you soo much in advance.

Posted by Sheila
San Diego, Ca
12/23/2011
55 Posts
Hi Tula from Tampa,

We don't have the funds now to purchase a whole-house water filtration system, and for our son's baths I used Epsom salt, fresh lemon slices/juice and Borax or Baking Soda to counter the chlorine/chloramine and flouride. There were no ill effects from using 1-2 cups of E salt (1 cup if I wanted our son to stay awake the rest of the day, or 2 cups for relaxation), juice from 1/2 a small lemon and a slice or two floating in the water, and one tablespoon of Borax or Soda. I made sure the Borax or Soda was completely dissolved before he climbed in. He didn't have a bath every day--every other day or two suited him, and me. If you do the same, make sure you're son understands not to swallow the bath water--E. salt encourages bowel movements.

Our son doesn't take many baths now since I purchased a filtering showerhead, but when he does, I do fill the tub through the showerhead. Unfortunately the filter doesn't filter fluoride. A chemist friend told me that the fluoride particulate isn't small enough to penetrate and be absorbed by the skin. I don't know if I believe this completely though. He did continue to say that it is the steam that should be a concern. Use cold or lukewarm water and use the bathroom fan.

I have my son drink water w/lemon before and after bathing these days, to help flush his system.

HTH,

Sheila

Posted by Nadia
Ajax, Ontario
02/15/2012
Regarding chlorine / chloramine removal. I use a shower filter with vitamin c in it to dechlorinate the water. They also sell vitamin c dechlorinating tablets for bath water - I've found 100 for under $19 and you only need to use a 1/2 tablet per bath. There are also dechlorinating bath balls on the market which last a yr before replacement crystals req'd. I've seen 2 kinds - one attaches onto your faucet (looks like a small round bucket) & water passes thru, but I hear water pressure makes it come off/water flows over filter and is not treated. The other is like a caged ball you swish thru bath water. Note -any bath products should be added after water has been treated-not during or before. I hope this helps.
Posted by Had
White River Jct, Vermont
04/15/2012
36 Posts
Sodium Thiosulfate detoxes and neutralizes chlorine and I believe flouride. I take the chrystals on the 'off borax' days; and when my water gets bleached (not by me! ) I through the STh into the bath water. hope this helps.
Posted by Anon
Anon
04/19/2012
Can't the ST and borax be taken together?

Colon Cleanse   0  0   

Posted by Julie (Gainesville, Fl) on 08/09/2011

I do 20 minutes oil pulling with organic virgin coconut oil first thing in the morning. I brush my teeth, dissolve 1 TB baking soda in 2 TB ACV, add 8 oz. Purified water and drink. From 30 to 60 minutes thereafter I purge anywhere from 1 to 3 lbs of foul water from my bowels. I feel like crap (sorry) during this time, but then I feel really good, and this doesn't happen again all day. My routine is just as I described; I'm not eating anything to provoke this reaction. It feels like detox and smells like detox (sorry! ) sometimes skunky / sulphery odor. I figure it's better out than in :P Any feedback or similar experience?

Posted by Tammy
Dan Diego, Ca
03/24/2012
What is oil pulling with coconut oil mean?

EC: Hi Tammy,

Check out this page on oil pulling.

Posted by Hd
White River Jct, Vermont
04/15/2012
36 Posts
I thought it was 2 TBS ACV to 1/4 tsp baking soda. maybe it is too much BS, lol, sorry.....
Posted by Niamh
Dublin, Ireland
11/10/2012
This is to Julie from Gainesville re Colon Cleanse info she posted >08/09/2011: how long did you keep up this routine, and was always first thing in the morning? Thanks!

Detoxing From Carbon Monoxide Poisoning   0  0   

Posted by Linda (New Haven, Ct, United States) on 02/26/2013

Hi. Our family suffered a near tragedy seven weeks ago when my husband nearly died in a car from carbon monoxide poisoning. Since that time we have noticed increased memory problems (he's always had some memory issues but they are worse now), fatigue, and even a loss of his normal voice. He used to have a lovely singing voice but can't hit many of the notes any longer.

He is 59 years old, overweight, high blood pressure and borderline diabetic. He suffers from depression (since he was a child) and has recently been diagnosed as bipolar. I've been reading online about carbon monoxide poisoning and realize that is what's causing his symptoms. The doctors will only say that we should give it 6-12 months and the effects may reverse.

Is there something he can do now?

Posted by Art
Tustin, Ca.usa
02/27/2013
In reply to Linda: Try researching melatonin and its protective effects on the brain after damage from different insults. Carbon monoxide poisoning will probably have some similarities with stroke damage as both involve lack of oxygen to the brain for a period of time resulting in increased oxidation and free radical production which will damage the cells. Melatonin has been shown to be safe in humans at pharmacological dosing and is a potent antioxidant that can readilly cross the blood/brain barrier to get to the damaged areas. Melatonin has shown some benefit in diabetes also, but you need to consult with your doctor and get his/her approval before using melatonin for any medical purpose as the suggested dose is likely to be 20mg to 70mg per night, not the usual 3 to 5 mg dose used as a sleep aid. I can tell you from my own experience at 60 mg per night, my main side effect was morning drowsiness, which slowly declined over three weeks of use, but I had this same effect at 20mg per night and it too dissipated over a couple of weeks.

More specific to CO poisoning, Russian scientists have been testing a combination supplement called "Cytoflavin", as an injection/infusion.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22997755
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22665729
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22238986

Cytoflavin appears to be composed of the following: Succinic acid, Inosine, Nicotinamide and Riboflavin Sodium Phosphate. Here is a link to the only website I found that has information on it: http://www.polysan-ru.com/products/cytoflavin/injections/

It looks like your doctor would have to contact them about local availability.

Lastly curcumin has shown some benefit, but curcumin requires high dosing and I'm not sure that curcumin can traverse the blood/brain barrier very easilly. As a potential alternative, Meriva, a liposomal form of curcumin that is available in capsules from most major online vitamin suppliers may be more useful as it is promoted as being able to enter body tissues readilly and have longer staying capabilities than regular curcumin while requiring a significantly lower dose than standard curcumin. Again, you would need to get your doctors approval before using meriva or melatonin or cytoflavin, assuming cytoflavin is even available here.

Good luck with your research!

Art

Posted by Linda
New Haven, Ct, United States
02/28/2013
10 Posts
Thank you Art, for pointing me in the right direction. I'll start my research! Linda
Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky
03/01/2013
1048 Posts
If I might add, I get best results by taking NAC and Selenium in combination with Melatonin, as used together, significantly boost the body's master antioxidant Glutathione.
Posted by Linda
New Haven, Ct, United States
03/01/2013
10 Posts
Timh: Regarding "NAC and Selenium in combination with Melatonin", how much per dose, how many doses per day and for how long (days, weeks, months, or till symptoms disappear) shall he take these? I want to be sure not to over or under dose him.

Thank you in advance for your guidance.

Linda

Posted by Art
Tustin, Ca. Usa
03/02/2013
In reply to Linda:

I did not recomend NAC in my previous post to you, even though it is well known to improve glutathione production in the human body as well as detoxify because the following abstract implies that it may cause other issues when used for the purpose of carbon monoxide poisoning. This abstract is suggesting melatonin did not have the same problem as NAC:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20586144

The problem is this is a rodent study and may or may not translate into human use, but I was thinking to err on the side of safety and melatonin has a very good safety profile. This abstract does not go into much detail as to what the exact problem was with NAC.

Art

Posted by Katy
Lv, Nv
03/02/2013
Hi Linda, I read your post last night and I am sorry to hear about your husband. It reminded me of a situation that happened to me and my family about 40 years ago, I was about ten and I remember it pretty clearly. It was winter and the house was kept closed up pretty tight, we had a problem with our heater. The entire family (5) of us were very ill. We thought we had the flu and my mom and I went to the Dr. Of course we were "fine" in his opinion. My brother and father felt better when they were outside, but me, mom and my sister in law were really hit hard, kept passing out, stumbling around, headache... Just sick. Finally my mom told my brother to call an ambulance.... An hour later we were in the emergency room, x rays and oxygen... Come to find out we were a few hours away from death. Long story short, we all recovered so I'm hoping your husband recovers as well.... just want to give you some hope.
Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
03/02/2013
1048 Posts
Linda: Follow the recommended dosage on the product labels. The NAC probably 1 or 2 500mg on empty stomach once day. Selenium 200 mcgs once day. Melatonon at least 3 or up to 9 or more mg once daily before retiring. These recommendations are safe for long-term defense.

As for your report of husband's chronic conditions, the above will help, but I would also recommend a very good health food store brand mens mult. W/ every meal. Extra antioxidant supplements you might consider is vit-a, vit-e, zinc, vit-c. The mineral Chromium (as Picolinate) in combination w/ Cinnamon will help prevent diabetes. ACV will help the hypertension.

Also, to boost the body's natural defense and restore cellular vitality, try Wheat Sprouts. The Wheat Sprout Enzymes will breath new life to the sick cells.

In addition, I would very much recommend hot baths w/ ¼ cup Epsom Salt and ¼ cup Baking Soda, as these salts will help neutralize toxins as well as eliminate them through sweating. One main bad side effect of chemical exposures is acidosis. Acidosis prevents the production and utility of enzymes and coenzymes. The salts reverse the acidosis and greatly improve oxygenation (which is the goal of all the antioxidant supplements). 2 or 3 baths per wk. untill substantial recovery.

My apologies on the lengthy recommendations, but events (chemical exposures) like these plus the aging factor, plus the preconditions you detailed, could spell a rapid or irreversible decline. Hopefully the protocols will restore your husband's health.

Please update us any progress or changes.

Posted by Linda
New Haven, Ct, United States
03/02/2013
10 Posts
An update on his condition: He came home early from work (he stands at work for 11.5 hrs a day). While at work he used the men's room and discovered his urine was the color of cranberry juice. I had him call his doctor and she told him she was "worried" and wanted him to go for a urinalysis. He arranged to leave work early so he could go to a lab this afternoon. Unfortunately the lab won't have any results for us till Mon or Tue. Why do things always seem to happen on the weekends?

Art: Thank you for the link. I understand your thoughts regarding the rodents. It's often difficult to extrapolate to humans, isn't it. I will continue my studies and present all I have learned here and elsewhere to my husband for his thoughts. I appreciate that you are trying to cautious.

Timh: My thanks to you as well for the clarification as to strength, dosing, etc. My husband already takes ACV (although due to his memory issues, not as often as he had). With the help of ACV, his blood pressure improved so much his doctor cut his blood pressure medication dosage in half last summer. She was quite pleased.

He does take Vit C now - 1,000 mg twice a day. I will look into purchasing the rest but I'm afraid to start anything till we know why his urine looks so bloody. I am really concerned and wonder if this is related to the poisoning or something else entirely? He's been quite tired but we had assumed it was going back to a difficult job after nearly four weeks out due to his health.

I'll keep you both advised.

Thank you both - Linda

Posted by Art
Tustin, Ca.usa
03/03/2013
In reply to Linda: I'm sorry to hear about this new complication for your husband.

Since you have the weekend to "research", I am attaching links to studies about melatonin that you may find helpful. I wanted to attach a chart that shows how melatonin declines as we age, but I don't know how to take it from "my documents" and place it into this message. Basically it shows a steady rise from the age of 3 months until the age of 6 years followed by a relatively flat period from 6 to 12 years of age followed by a fairly steep decline from the age of approximately 12 to 14 years when it peaks around 125 pg/ml to the age of about 57 where it starts to flatline around 5 pg/ml on into the 70's and 80's....... basically a negligible amount.

The following link discusses melatonin and how it is much more than just another potent antioxidant:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2582546/

This next link discusses at length the anti-inflammatory effects of melatonin as well as interactions and protective effects to the brain and central nervous system:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3001216/

The following link is to a human study that used 10mg of melatonin per day combined with Omeperazole to treat gastric and duodenal ulcers and h. pylori intestinal infection:

http://www.jpp.krakow.pl/journal/archive/10_11/pdf/521_10_11_article.pdf

This next link is to an abstract of another human study that shows that the increased antioxidant potential caused by melatonin supplementation continues for more than a week after discontinuation of supplementation:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20577026

This next link is to an abstract of a double blind placebo controlled study of COPD in humans where melatonin was shown to have some benefit, however the dose was quite low at only 3mg/day. Further studies at higher doses for COPD seem warranted:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22507631

A quick word about melatonin as a radioprotectant:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22185900

The next two abstracts are from a two stage study of melatonin in the treatment of Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy using 70 mg of melatonin per day for at least 9 months with significant results:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20210854

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21515247

There is quite a bit of research regarding melatonin and its beneficial effects in cancer as well as its synergism with multiple chemo agents. Melatonin also has the ability to help protect the human body against some of the negative effects of chemo and radiation therapy. One scientist (Lissoni P. ) that I have read some of the studies has been researching melatonin since the mid 1980's and has done the majority of these studies in the relationship of melatonin and cancer. The last study I could find was dated, in 2012, so almost 30 years of studying that cancer/melatonin relationship. I think it says a lot that a scientist has basically devoted their career to mainly researching one substance, melatonin!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22933147

So that should give you some good study material to research and help you understand the true value of melatonin in many health conditions. These links that I have posted here are just the tip of the iceberg as far as the total potential of melatonin. The more you research it, the more you will realize just how much potential melatonin has. I hope melatonin will be helpful and your husband will make a full recovery!

Good reading to you.

Art

Posted by Linda
New Haven, Ct, United States
03/03/2013
10 Posts
Katy, your family did have quite a scare! I have hope for an answer to my husband's issues with all the help from the good people at EarthClinic. Thank you for sharing your story with me.

Linda :)

Posted by Linda
New Haven, Ct, United States
03/03/2013
10 Posts
Art, Wow! This will be a lot of reading and I look forward to it. I start back at my work tomorrow so I will have a little less time than I've had these past 6 weeks. I've been on FML (Family Medical Leave) in order to help my husband since his release from the hospital but I must return to work. I won't have access to the internet at work so I will read what I can once home in the evenings.

I can't thank you enough for all the links you have sent. The medical doctors he has seen are all taking a "wait and see" attitude. My feeling is that his brain and other affected organs need help and support now, not a year from now!

I'll pass on the results from his lab work as soon as we hear - that should be tomorrow (Monday) or Tuesday.

Thank you again and God Bless, Linda

Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, USA
03/04/2013
1048 Posts
Linda: I have suffered w/ Chemical Injury for many years, and have almost died twice. I can tell you from personal as well as others experiences, that 98% Medical Doctors (MD's) DO NOT treat Chemical Injuries except as Emergency Medicine. Environmental Illnesses are not legitimate, and the people who live to deal with them almost always get diagnosed as psychosomatic and are prescribed mood altering medications; this is the sad reality of how the system works. As for the 2% MD's that do treat environmental diseases, they constantly brace themselves against harassments and lawsuits. I think the majority of these Dr's are listed under Occupational Medicine. You might also search for "Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy" as this helps people recover from chemical exposure.

As all the info you'r reading can be confusing and you don't seem to be able to adopt any simple "safe" ( it is very common for people to view Nutritional Supplements in the same category of "safe" as prescription & otc drugs, when in fact nutritional supplements a way very much more safer and in large quantities compared to drugs) solutions for treatment, try and find a Natural Doctor (ND) in your area. ND will get your husband on a regimen of Natural Medicine that will likely save his life.

Posted by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
03/04/2013
359 Posts
Hi Tim, I couldn't agree with you more as a result of personal experience. I worked in an office where there was a safety person always checking the air, and I repeatedly heard him say the gas is a little high. The doors would be opened and that was it. I didn't think much of it. I began to feel sick and hot at work, and by the time I get home I couldn't eat and thought I was getting the flu. By the next morning, I felt well again and the whole thing would start over. It suddenly occurred to me that the high gas levels were CO, which I couldn't actually believe, so I called the safety guy at home one evening and he confirmed it was CO! I went out and bought a CO detector, and when I put it in my office, it went off detecting lethal levels. There was a crack in the furnace that was venting into my office and other places in the plant. We got it fixed immediately. But, to my astonishment, my doctor (former doctor now) would not see me. She had no appointments, even two weeks out and said evening appts. We're for chronic illnesses, like headaches, when a sore throat would normally get you in that day. I could get no one to see me, just for advice in case my heart or liver had been damaged. It was too late to go to the ER because I had been breathing oxygen by this time, and they said that is all they would do for me anyway. I have been distrustful of the medical community ever since. And I never had any inclination to sue anyone, if the Worker's Comp issue was the problem. I just wanted some information and advice, but no one would help me. So you are exactly correct in your thinking.
Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, USA
03/05/2013
1048 Posts
Addendum

... I think the majority of these Dr's are listed under Occupational, Alternative, Complementary, or Integrative Medicine.

Detoxing from Chlorine Poisoning   0  0   

Posted by Kelly (Miami) on 09/25/2013

My friend was on a jobsite 30 years ago that had a fatal chlorine spill (gas). I was evacuated from school 4 miles away! I am now a friend to one of the victims on that jobsite. He has been dealing with pain in upper stomach for 30 years. Nerves activate it . Very painful in fetal position for 24 hours now ? What can I start to do to alleve the pain? Worried, Kelly

Posted by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
09/26/2013
586 Posts
Dear Kelly,

So sorry about your friend! I have already suggested charcoal to a number of people today... But it does have so many applications!

Charcoal adsorbs chlorine, so it is indicated for chlorine poisoning. Of course, by now it may be just the damage done and not the chlorine itself causing trouble, but it is still a good choice for detox and for pain. Your friend could use charcoal poultices over the pained area. (Directions are in the activated charcoal section of this website. ) He could also take 1 t. activated charcoal in 8 oz. of water 2-3 times a day.

Slippery Elm Bark Powder is also soothing and healing to the gut. You can make a healing porrige with 1 T. of the powder and stir in warm water, a little honey and a pinch of salt and he can eat this a few times a day.

Comfrey and plantain are also healing and soothing. He can make a tea with these herbs and drink liberally. Avoid foods that are hard on the system - fried foods, coffee, soda pop.

Is this normal for your friend? Has he ruled out other causes of this pain? Does he have other symptoms or fever? I have made the mistake for myself of assuming one this is causing my problems and nearly missed an emergency situation. (I thought I had indigestion but really had a rupturing fallopian tube.)

Please keep us posted on your friend's progress.

~Mama to Many~

Detoxing from Gadolinium Dye   0  0   

Posted by Cindy (Wis. Usa) on 09/11/2013

Request information from Bill from San Fernando and others as to how to detox from gadolinium Dye from my MRI: I had no idea this dye was toxic till after the fact of having the MRI done. What can or should I do to get it out besides drinking water? Thanks to all for any info.

Posted by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
09/12/2013
586 Posts
Charcoal is wonderful for detox. You can get a container of activated charcoal powder at your health food store. Mix 1 1/2 t. In 8 oz. Water and drink it twice a day. Do not take with 2 hours of medication as it will adsorb them as well as toxins. Do this for a couple of weeks.

You can also take a charcoal bath. 1 cup of charcoal in the bath water. Soak 30 minutes. Shower afterwards. Charcoal baths are messy, though. Be careful if you have low blood pressure as charcoal baths can lower blood pressure. You could also just do epsom salt baths. I would do some sort of detox bath 3x a week for a couple of weeks.

~Mama to Many~

Detoxing from Silcone   0  0   

Posted by Suzy (Eugene, Or) on 07/30/2014

One of my neighbors has had health issues for the last year..... was told she had rheumatoid arthritis in her joints among other auto-immune type disorders. She just learned that her breast implants are leaking silicone into her body. Obviously, she is scheduled to have the implants removed...but does anyone heard of protocols to remove the silicone that has already been released into her system?

Posted by Timh
KY
07/31/2014
1048 Posts
@Suzy: Here's 3 natural remedies for general detox.

1) Take the amino acid NAC 1grm daily to boost the body's primary antioxidant Glutathione. Also, to help boost GTH take either a supplement of Selenium or eat Brazil Nuts daily plus 3mg Melatonin prior to retiring.

2) Foot Detox Patches during bed-time or while sleeping (remove toxic patches upon waking).

3) Take whole body hot baths w/ 1/4 cup Magnesium Sulfate aka Epsom Salts plus 1/4 cup Sodium Bicarbonate aka Baking Soda. 2 baths per week for several wks will help much.

Diatomaceous Earth   1  1   

Posted by Rees (Philpot, Ky) on 06/29/2012

I've been using DE for a week now and in the past few days I've experienced sore muscles especially in my legs, is this normal and should I discontinue the use of it?

Posted by Lisa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
06/29/2012
541 Posts
Hi Rees, Most likely you are having a reaction to detoxing from the diatomaceous earth. I wouldn't stop since it is doing its work. DE is a powerful detoxer in many ways. You can slow it down though if you need to by either using less or perhaps skipping a day. I only take a small amount and only every few days. On the other hand, I believe detoxing on a regular basis is very important since our world is so toxic at this point. I do so many things on a regular basis that I never really have a reaction any more. Hope this helps you, Lisa


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