Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis (White Spots)

Last Modified on Aug 30, 2014

Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis (IGH) is a leukoderma of unknown cause (idiopathic). Now a leukoderma is simply a fancy term for a loss or lack of coloration in the skin. A number of conditions result in this symptom, and the loss of skin pigment is usually patchy but localized. In the case of Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis, the loss of skin pigment presents itself as a sort of polka dot of rather tiny white spots on the skin.

IGH, sometimes also called Leukopathia symmetrica progressiva, is most common among caucasians and women. However, the prevalence increases across all races with advancing age, and half or more of the population over the age of 50 experiences Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis to at least some extent.

Risk Factors and Treatment: Sun exposure seems to be a factor in the condition, since it tends only to appear on exposed skin. Exfoliation may help. Generally for leukoderma, the fruit of the Bael Tree from India has been traditionally prescribed as a natural cure.

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Posted by Mitz (Fl) on 11/27/2013

Hello All, I seem to be suffering from this guttate hypomelanosis. I have read all the comments on here and have not heard of anyone having success with treating this with the exception of Teds clients. Has anyone thoroughly tried Ted's remedies and have had successful outcomes? I'm going to give it a try. And will get back.

Posted by Mitzie
Fl
12/27/2013
Hello Bill,

Since Ted is unable to offer his help and knowledge for the time being maybe u can help with protocols on treating this guttate hypomelanosis. I went to the dermatologist and she confirmed exactly what I suspected it to be. Is rubbing organic coconut oil all over the body and taking alfalfa supplements one effective course for treatment? Please respond.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
12/28/2013
968 Posts
Hi Mitze...Here is Ted's remedy for Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis :

Besides the B12 (500-1000 mcg), and folic acid (20 mg) and 3000 mg of vitamin C you also need:
1. Betaine HCl to increase your stomach acid to protect from increases in further fungus exposure
2. PABA at least 400 mg
3. Vitamin D3 (10, 000 iu) Topical creams however work the best.
4. Copper deficiency. Copper prevents fungus growth that's how wood rot is also treated too.
5. Chromium deficiency Chromium controls blood sugar, and also are low for people with vitiligo and idiopathic guttate hypomelanosis.
6. Blood sugar is high. It fuels most lower organism, what better then sugar?
7. Boron. Helps normalize hormones, and progesterone especially is lacking, so these people get this condition if they are 35 years an older.
8, Autoimmune disease. It is found that 10% has autoimmune disease. Of course they do, that's how fungus works, it causes autoimmune disease, it doesn't do that generally speaking if its a virus or a bacteria. And borax is the best treatment for them because borax kills fungus and it raises or normalizes hormone across the board, with possible exception of growth hormones.

Source: http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/idiopathic-guttate-hypomelanosis_questions.html

Basically Ted maintains that IGH, which is very similar to vitiligo, is caused by fungus and deficiencies like lack of copper and lack of stomach acid for proper digestion. This is also explained fully in the above link.

But I would like to pass some thoughts on as to my own experiences with vitiligo, which I've had since my teenage years. Vitiligo is very similar to IGH, but it is more body-wide and noticeable, in larger white patches and always seems to occur characteristically around the joints.

Here's my own experience with vitiligo(which is very similar to IGH). I cured my own systemic candida(a fungal disease) problems 8 years ago. At the beginning of 2013, I moved to another house in the Philippines. I now sit and work at a desk directly in front of my study window for most of the day -- lots of indirect sunlight through the window. And here's the point: after having lived in that house for 6 months, I noticed that my vitiligo was actually disappearing around my arms, face and upper body and that these large white patches are now turning brown with normal pigmentation. This can only be because I was getting incidental sunlight(not direct sunlight) while sitting at the window in my study. These areas have become darker and darker brown(I wear no shirt during the day, except for formal occasions).

Here are some of my conclusions. Yes, Ted is completely right -- fungus plays a big part in skin problems involving pigmentation because fungus loves copper, iron and calcium for its biofilms. Copper is needed to help melanin production for proper pigmentation of the skin -- I was lacking copper. It therefore wasn't enough for me just to get rid of my candida -- I needed more incidental sunlight in order to re-generate the vit D etc to generate normal pigmentation again.

So just to sum up. The reason my vitiligo(which the docs also cannot cure) has disappeared is because:

* I successfully used a broad acting protocol to get rid of my systemic and local fungal/bacteria problems. I cured my systemic candida which also killed the fungus in my skin causing the vitiligo. But still my white skin patches remained.

* By complete chance I sat shirtless in front of a window for a year and my vitiligo is now rapidly disappearing and my skin is becoming normally pigmented again. Therefore Vitamin D is urgently needed, as well as copper(BS Molasses) and tyrosine to help generate melanin for re-pigmentation of the skin. But I think the most important element of all was the incidental sunlight.

The above conclusions also apply to IGH.

I would also recommend that you use essential oils topically on your skin, with a view to killing all associated fungal problems that always seem to be involved in IGH and vitiligo -- by using pine oil, geranium oil or lavender oil. These oils rapidly kill all forms of pathogens in the skin -- including fungus. Just combine three or four drops of any one of these essential oils with a teaspoon of VCO or Olive Oil and rub it into the white areas of the skin every day. This will kill the fungus locally. And remember that even if you do kill all the fungus causing your IGH problem -- you will still need incidental sunlight or vit D to bring back the pigmentation. So it may necessarily take a while -- so have patience.

My own belief is that fungal diseases are, unquestionably, the hardest to recognize and cure. I also have a theory concerning the huge part that fungal diseases must play in our aging process. But that's, perhaps, a longer story for another day...

Posted by Mitzie
Fl
01/03/2014
Thank You So Much Bill for you help! I'm going to get right on with the remedies that you mentioned, I will also keep you updated with my progress. God Bless.
Posted by Mitzie
Fl
03/19/2014
Hello Bill,

Hope all is well. I also wanted to know how did you systematically get rid of the candida/fungus from within? Do you have a diet plan that you followed or did you take a specific product/s to kill the candida/fungus in the body?

Posted by Bill
San Fenando, Philippines
03/20/2014
968 Posts
Hi Mitzie...My candida protocol involves and follows the strategy given below:

Anti-Candida and Anti-Pathogen Protocols

Anti-Biofilm Protocols

Alkalizing Protocols

Essential Detox Protocols

Liver Support Protocols(Neutralizing Toxins)

Vitamin and Mineral Support (Immune System Support)

The Health Defence Diet

For a quick look at the whole protocol on EC see this link. I've also written a book on Candida which goes into much greater detail and describes exactly what candida is as a pathogen and why this disease is so hard to cure. The book is called Candida: Killing So Sweetly and is sold on EC and Amazon.com.

Regarding using diet to cure candida, I have read hundreds of testimonials where people have used this or that diet to cure their candida. Some make progress using just diet, but usually they hit a plateau and there is no further progress to a final cure. And many who use just the diet approach completely fail. You really have to know and understand what you are doing when you use a diet to cure candida. And it can also be expensive. Secondly, I help people with candida issues from the more primitive countries like Pakistan, Philippines and Indonesia. In such countries, there is no such thing as organic food in the provinces -- it doesn't really exist. The average wage in the Philippines is about $3 a day -- so how can they afford organic food or store bought nutrients anyway? I usually end up advising particular herbs that grow for free in their area but this approach is not as good as my protocol which is more strongly focused. Having said all that, a diet will definitely help you -- eliminate all processed foods from your diet and avoid all additives, sugar, wheat, dairy and yeast foods. I use specific nutrients to achieve the goals of my strategy above. Many people misunderstand and underestimate the robustness of candida to be able to relentlessly persist or keep returning as a systemic infection. Many people also have a mistaken belief that candida is just like a viral or bacterial infection and that's usually one of the major reasons why they fail to cure their candida problem -- and so it never goes away or just keeps returning because they have used the wrong approach.

Posted by Mitzie
Fl
03/23/2014
Hi Bill,

The links that you provided are not working it states "404-page not found"? Also do you know of anything that can eliminate uterine fibroids or will the protocols mentioned will be effective against the fibroids as well?

EC: We're fixing the links now!

Posted by Bill
San Fenando, Philippines
03/23/2014
968 Posts
Hi Mitzie...Here are the links again:

Candida:Killing So Sweetly

Candida Protocol on EC

I helped to cure a lady from Africa four years ago using my protocol. As well as candida she had GERD, gastritis, low thyroid, esophigitis, hiatal hernia, uterine fibroids and kidney nodules and she was rapidly losing weight. It took about 6 months to cure all these problems using the candida protocol. The only extra protocol I added(for her GERD problems) was betaine hydrochloride and protease enzymes(pancreatin with bromelain) taken at mealtimes.

So yes, my protocol should cure your fibroids but you will have to ensure that you take the high dose of lugols iodine(LI) that is recommended in the protocol. Iodine supplementation cures cyst problems in the body. It also kills many forms of pathogens including candida. But please ensure that you do not abbreviate the protocol -- take the regimen, as described -- including the diet, for best results. The protocol is also described in much more detail in my book on candida which also contains full descriptions of the nutrients as well as an example tabulated daily schedule for taking the candida protocol.

Posted by Mitzie
Fl
03/25/2014
Hi Bill,

Thanks. And I will do a followup.

Posted by Meeya
Sunnyvale, Ca
08/15/2014
36 Posts
Hi Bill, I posted a longer comment under Ted's thread for treating IGH, so I will keep this brief.

After taking the supplements exactly as you described for IGH, I developed an eczema-like rash on my face. I had only taken the supplements for a couple of weeks, when I developed a small itchy red bump on my cheek, that grew within 2 days into 3 very large patches. They are hot, red, raised, extremely itchy and ooze yellow liquid. They also had fluid built up under the patch, which raised half an inch off my face. My face was very swollen. After a couple of days the liquid dropped down on my face and swelled other areas of my face and neck (moved downward with gravity).

I am assuming this rash is a cleansing reaction. It seems to be fungal in nature. I don't think it's an allergic reaction, because I haven't been expsed to anything new other than taking these supplements and showering with borax powder. I scrub the borax powder on my skin (everywhere except my face). My skin seemed very happy with this new routine.

At this point the rash is only on my face. Now in my 30s, I've only had a rash on my face in the past (once in my teens, and once in my 20s) when my skin was exposed to wood, and again in my 20s when I tried oil pulling. I didn't want to put up with such a noticeable detox reaction so I gave up oil pulling for good. I used steroids in the past to clear up the rashes. Unlike what I have now, those rashes consisted of much smaller patches, and not really as red, hot and itchy. I don't remember them being raised or oozing any fluid. And definitely no swelling of the face. One doc diagnosed it as guttate psoriasis (but who knows. It was gone after the steroids so I thought it was just a strange allergic reaction to some kind of chemically treated wood). Other than that, my skin is normally free of rashes and acne.

Right now I'm really miserable, as the itch is very intense. I can hardly sleep at night. I don't like going anywhere during the day because it's so bad, but with 3 little ones to care for that's not an option for me. If you were in my shoes, would you remain off of all supplements until the rash was gone? I am treating it topically with borax, clay, iodine, salts... I am not scratching it at all... and I think it's helping because it's not getting worse, and at least the swelling is gone. Or would you take the supplements with the hope that it would actually speed the detox and heal everything up quicker? Thanks for your insight and look forward to hearing from you.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
08/16/2014
968 Posts
Hi Meeya...I think the breakouts on your face are probably either due to detoxing of excess heavy metals or detoxing of bromine or fluorine from your body.

Iodine is a very efficient chelator of cadmium, lead, mercury, aluminum and arsenic. Iodine also removes excess bromine and fluorine from the body. By 'remove' I mean that Iodine will remove these poisons from your cells and dump them into your blood and then its up to your liver to cope with this excess. So if the liver is already quite stressed, then the skin, which is also a major excretory organ in the body, will try and help -- and this is what can lead to fluoroderma or bromoderma problems. Other heavy metals can also cause skin problems as well.

To know where you stand -- to help you find the cause and what your problem is -- I would simply suggest getting a hair analysis done. This will tell you all the poisons you have in excess in your body -- including heavy metals, fluorine and bromine. The hair analysis will also tell you any vitamin and mineral deficiencies that you might also have. This will help you to further focus your own protocol more strongly to rid yourself of these problems.

The general favourite for skin break-outs when you supplement iodine is normally bromine. The many symptoms of excess bromine in the blood are shown here. To remedy this particular problem, just take the sea salt and water loading protocol as shown here on this page. The chloride from the sea salt will tend to bind with the bromine and help to clear it more quickly from the blood via the urinary pathway which will help to take the strain off the liver.

So you can use the salt loading protocol to help reduce the bromine and supplementing Borax as advised should also help to reduce the fluorine in your body as well.

Posted by Meeya
Sunnyvale, Ca
08/16/2014
36 Posts
Great info Bill. Thanks so much.

Do you have a particular lab you recommend for the hair analysis?

I will give the borax and salt loading protocols a try. I actually just ordered some Lugol's iodine, and was planning to take some. So if I understand you correctly, I should take that as well to help continue the detox.

I suppose it doesn't help any that my city's water supply is fluoridated, and I'm taking 2x/day baths with 1.5 cups borax added.

I am breastfeeding my little one... hope none of these poisons are reaching him through my milk... I'll post again after I've given your suggestions a try. Can't thank you enough!

Posted by Aline (Hoorn, North-holland Netherlands) on 10/03/2012

Dear, I'm 26 years old and have idiopathic guttate hypomelanosis. I have red a reaction of Ted that he thinks it is a fungus problem. I just started to take MMS by Jim Humble and I was wondering if you think that this might help by this condition. I'm thinking of using MMS on the skin together with DMSO. Do you think this will work? Do you have any other suggestion to do in this case? Do you have had any comments from people that something had helped by this condition? Beceause I read a lot of tips but nowhere that something really helped.

Hope you can help me! My thanks, Aline

Posted by Claude
Crestview, Fl, Usa
10/19/2012
I am a 55 yr old black Caribbean American female with IGH. The white spots started on the outside of my ankles about 10 years ago and have since moved up to leg to the outside of my knees. I also have random white spots on my outer thighs. I was concerned that in time these spots would move on up the rest of my body. So, today I visited a dermatologist who knew exactly what they were. For years, I thought that they were Vitiligo but she said they weren't. They are IGH which tends to be just confined to the lower legs. Vitiligo can be found on any part of the body. The dermatologist had a book that was devoted to just IGH and she ran me a copy of 2 pages that explained more about it. This is what's on the pages:

DEFINITION - Idiopathic Guttate Hypomelanosis, or Disseminate Lenticular Leucoderma, comprises small, white irregularly shaped macules occurring mostly on the anterior lower legs.

ETIOLOGY – Actinic damage has been proposed as a cause of IGH in Caucasians. The etiology is poorly understood in black people. Histologically, a decrease in the number of melanocytes is found and women, especially over 40 years of age, represent the majority of cases.

CLINICAL PERSPECTIVE: The discrete, hypopigmented macules range in size from 2-6 mm and possess an irregular border. The disease is more noticeable in black people than Caucasians, and may involve the trunk as the legs.

DIFFERENTIAL DIAGNOSIS – Unlike IGM, Vitiligo tends to be periorificial and not confined to the lower legs.

TREATMENT OPTIONS – Triamcinilone acetonide may be injected intralesionally if the lesions are cosmetically objectionable. Usually, no treatment is required.

Lastly, my dermatologist said that the injections were quite painful. I'm happy to hear that it has a name and that it won't spread to my face. I'm okay with that – on injections for me. My Mom also had the same white spots. I hope this helps anyone who is seeking answers.

Posted by Fe (Cebu, Sabang,sibonga,cebu, Philippines) on 09/24/2012

Hi, I have idiopathic hypomeanosis since I was in grade 5, and now im 28 years old. My skin problem now spread all over my body, it starts from the legs, then to my arms and neck.. Its very visible, I always wear jeans, im scared and shy to wear skirt and short pants. I've been bullied because of being different.. So now im really looking for a treatment, I already spend much of my savings for this but in the philippines it seems that the doctors dont have any idea for this... But I researched in the internet about the tretinoin, and thought of giving a try.. Now it's been 5 months since I used it.. I dont see any changes yet, but hoping that there will be and it will really help.. My question is, is tretinoin really good or helpful to treat my skin problem? Can you recommend another medicine? and I hope it is available here in the philippines... I really want someone to share about my problem and I'm happy to found this site.

Posted by Margaret (Su, Md Usa) on 11/18/2011

Hi Ted,

I have the same white spots and read your response to the vitamin supplements recommended. I intend to purchase these supplements, but wanted clarification, on some of the supplements recommended, are you recommending a supplement call;

Boron, Borax and copper supplement

Thank you in advance for you assistance, I really appreciate it.

Margaret

Posted by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
11/20/2011
900 Posts
Margaret, I have the same problem, so has my husband. Please keep us informed of your progress..... Ted advised me a protocol quite a while ago but I haven't had the time to really look into it yet as I have had other health issues and we are moving house right now as well, so enough other stuff in my head but if you notice any difference in the spots please tell me!
Posted by Andrea
Dorset, U.k
11/22/2011
To everyone who has white 'freckles' or Idiopathic Guttate Hopomelanosis... The only thing that works is the Xtrac laser. It's available in the US but at only one centre in London. I've had IGH for years and over a year of treatments with the Xtrac laser reduced them from being very obvious (they are on my upper neck under my ears and upper chest) to being acceptable. But they haven't completely gone and the cost of laser treatment is prohibitive for that period of time (thousands of £'s). Avoid the sun, please. It makes them worse. It's the sun that causes them. No vitamins/creams/ etc work at all so save your money. (Tried everything). Basically they are white freckles and we should all start 'loving' them rather than hiding them! And be realistic; they don't cause death nor are harbingers of cancer.
Posted by Luvdusun
Fayetteville, Nc Usa
12/12/2011
Anatabloc may help. I started taking it because of an itchy skin condition on my scalp that caused huge dandruff flakes. It only took three days for Anatabloc to make that go away. But when I stop taking it, the condition returns. So I have been taking it for three months now and noticed that the very prominent white spots on my forearms had faded to the point that they are almost unnoticeable.

I had not bothered with them because they did not hurt and I figured that it was just my age. But when I noticed that they have about disappeared, I started looking to see what they were in the first place. That is why I found this website. FWIW

Posted by Gokhals
Ca, Usa
10/05/2013
25 Posts
You probably have a fungal infection then. Spots on the skin - light and dark occur for a variety of reasons - hormonal, disturbed metabolism, drug side effects, missing nutrients, toxic loads on body, fungal and other infections, digestive disorders etc. Take a careful look at these. If a certain remedy works, work backwards from it to understand the cause of the problem. The same problem will likely plague other members of your family.

Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 08/18/2010

You advised me to take bicarbonate of soda twice a day, after dinner and before sleeping but I have a doubt, as I have a slow digestion won't that slow it even more or should I try anyway?

Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 08/06/2010

White spots on the skin question for Ted or Bill

Here goes my question again: I seem to be suffering from Idiopathic guttate hypomelanosis which is not the result of a fungus but the fact that the skin is tired of the sun. The spots begin in the legs and spread to the arms and chest. I am looking for remedies for this which is not easy. On the Internet I found that topical retinoids, steroids and tretinoin cream might help. Does any of you have other suggestions? A doctor in Portugal gave me an iodine liquid which he prepared himself but it didn't seem to help (I stopped applying it) and told me to wash myself with a clay soap which was very aggressive and made things worse. In the meanwhile a cousin of mine told me that people used to mix a bit of iodine in the coconut oil which they used as a sun tan oil on the beach in order to get a darker tan. Would that maybe help? I do use coconut oil in the sun and I feel that it works wonders: I never burn and get a lovely tan while my skin is very soft. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated because I am so afraid that I will lose my skin color. Skin doctors as a rule have no clue.

Posted by Gena
Redondo Beach, California
08/07/2010
[YEA]   It's been a while but a friend of mine had large white (loss of pigment) patches covering his chest area and I wanted to help him. His chest actually looked like he was a "pinto" (as in horse) it was that large of an area. I am not saying this will work for you but in his case, I had read about paba (one of the B vitamins, I. E. , para-aminobenzoic acid) helping with pigment, skin and gray hair. Well, we tried 50 mg. A couple times a day (not scientific by any means) and it all filled back in with normal skin color and he was happy. I also tried it for myself and numerous white spots (loss of pigment areas) all filled back in. *for us, this worked. Good luck!
Posted by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
08/16/2010
Francisca,

I recently have some good results for people taking 500-1000 mcg of B12, 20 mg of folic acid, and 3000 mg vitamin C a day. In research studies they found people with this skin problem have very low levels of that. Sometimes low copper levels also have an effect, and chlorophlly supplements is also taken, or perhaps copper supplements at 2 mg a day for perhaps a month. It takes about 1-3 months to get repigmentation to just start, however. There is some success in research studies in repigmentation when those supplements are taken. During the supplementation it helps to get out in the sun so that the skin can repigment faster. There was one earthclinic reader last year that had another condition, but under another name, vitiligo and also had success, after the antifungal remedy didn't work and has restored after taking B12, folic acid, vitamin C, and some copper supplements also. As for Beta Carotene it colors the skin to cover up the depigmented area and is somewhat helpful if plenty of beta carotene is taken, but it is a temporary solution. I believe the underlying cause is hypomethylation. Of course hypomethylation requires a bit different kind of supplements, in addition to B12, folic acid, and B6, it also is a must to take trimethylgycine. People's ability to absorb B12 is reduced with age, but methylation in the body is also reduced and I think 1000 mg of trimethylglycine is helpful. Age spots is also somewhat of a liver problems, and perhaps glutathione or its precursors such as N Acetyl Cysteine or just L Cysteine, glycine (or trimethylglycine) and glutamine is helpful, where N acetyl cysteine at 500 mg, or L cysteine at 500 mg, glycine 1000 mg or trimethylglycine at 1000 mg is the common dosage and glutamine around 1000-3000 mg a day. When taking any copper supplements it is important to take some zinc, such as 5-10 mg so that copper and zinc levels in the body remains undisturbed.

Also pantothenic acid B5 was used to reduced a condition as Vitiligo, but for hypopigmentation in general the dose I used is closer to 100-500 mg a day.

Ted

Posted by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
08/16/2010
900 Posts
Dear Ted,

Thank you very much for your quick answer. I will start by following your advice for the white spots and if they get better I will maybe work on the age spots as I have a lot less of those. I live in North East France so we are not blessed with too much sun but I try to be in the sun as much as I can. I am taking Vitamin C 3000mg at this moment because of my allergies (no specific allergies, year around), started a few days ago so I will also look into the Vit. B12 and the folic acid. I suppose one shouldn't be treating too much pigmentation as in the age spots and too little as in the white stains at the same time? As far as the copper goes I take molasses regularly, would I need more?

An Earth Clinic read recommended PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid). My husband, who is a scientist was horrified because he said that it could promote cancer. It is not that I don't trust my husbands opinion but sometimes I think that he knows the compounds maybe in another form and not in health supplements. He also disagrees with MSM because he thinks that it is also dangerous.

As far as age spots being a problem of the liver that I have heard all my life in my home country, Portugal. I also have eye floaters (those little dark flies one sees flying around which are very annoying - I am myopic) and I have heard that at least the Chinese think that those are also connected to the liver. I had hepatitis A as a child, maybe that is connected?

I think that you do an excellent job and I can't thank you enough.

Have a wonderful day,

Francisca

Posted by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
08/16/2010
Molasses would be fine for copper issues. As for B5, I prefer pantothenic or panthenol forms. Some places may have UV bulbs and in another as tanning salons if there is lack of sun during winter season. Most allergies are fungal in nature, so alkalization as 1/2 teaspoon baking soda twice a day and vitamin c but without calcium are helpful.

Ted

Posted by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
08/16/2010
900 Posts
Half a teaspoon of baking soda in water?

Thanks,

Francisca

Posted by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
08/16/2010
1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in a cup of water 30 minutes twice a day preferably after dinner and another before sleep.

Ted

Posted by Karin
Sydney, Nsw
12/19/2010
Hi Francisca
I'd like to know if you had any results after months of taking those supplements for the white spots. I'm getting worse by the time. My skin is looking like a leopard! Thank you,
Karin.
Posted by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
12/20/2010
900 Posts
Hi Karin, nice of you to contact me because these past few days I had a good look at my skin and despite not having been in the sun since September because it is winter here they are still very visible. I also hate them but I haven't had the opportunity to try Ted's remedies yet as I have been trying to get rid of my allergies first and I can't take everything at the same time. What I did was to use coconut oil (I don't do it every day though.... ), used an iodine lotion a doctor gave me but it didn't really seem to work so I stopped, used vit E for a while and other vitamins. Nothing seems to help although I am going to stop taking supplements with magnesium stearate because I noticed that no matter what I was taking (and I was taking quite a few things), nothing ever really did seem to work. Was it the magnesium stearate? I don't know! I won't take it again though! You can find what Ted advised me on the section about this problem, I believe if not contact me and I will send his e-mails to you. Please keep me informed if anything works for you because I am quite afraid I will look like a freak some time soon: rigaud(dot)williams[at]gmail.com. By the way, I am 53 and it seems to be connected to the age. I have had them for a lot of years but they are progressing faster now! We are going to Britain for Christmas so I might buy MSM for my allergies, who knows whether it might help with this too....
Posted by Carolina
Cancun, Mexico
07/22/2011
Te, I have a daughter who will turn 6 AUG 20. I have been noticing. Tiny whites spots on her and I don't want to get ahead of myself but they have not gotten biger yet but seems to be getting more of them maybe. What should I do? I have read ur recomendations on other people but I don't know for my child! We have been in cancun for two years and I thought maybe the sun was doing her harm but I am not sure. Now she is has a little more than tan skin tone if this is helpful. I have read so much of your helpful advice on colds and other info and I am glad you are on this site! God Bless u and all your kindness! Thank you carol!
Posted by Sue Ellen
Los Angeles, Ca
07/23/2011
10 Posts
I noticed you live in Cancun. If your child is playing in the ocean, the white spots are likely just mineral spots. Salt and other mineral in ocean adheres to the skin and can interfer with pigmenting of the skin but not permanently. Applying sunscreen can help, but she probably doesn't need anything else as the spots are salt spots are not harmful.
Posted by V
Oak Run, Ca, United States
08/15/2011
2 Posts
I was browsing the web and googled white spots and it came up with this wierd sounding name. I have never heard of it, but I also have it on my forearms. Getting worse as I age. I have suggestion, however I have not been taking this remedy long enough to find out if it will work. I recently started making water kefir from organic water kefir grains. You can get them from several reputable companies on the web. I bought mine from Cultures for Health. They have great videos on their website instructing how to make this remarkable drink. It is a living organism and you care for it, and it cares for you. There are numerous health benefits to this amazing little group of organisms, but one is that it does wonders for your skin. If it does not help the white spots, you will still benefit greatly from drinking it daily. Oh, and once you buy it, if properly cared for it will multiply and you can give excess grains away to friends. Free is always good.....
Posted by K
Sunny Isles Beach, Florida
08/19/2011
I also seem to be suffering from Idiopathic guttate hypomelanosis and in desperate need of a cure/treatment. I'm only 32 but have very fair skin (am Asian) and unfortunately I just moved to Florida! Those of you who have been taking supplements, how has that worked for you? I read something about acupuncture also helping - is that a myth?

Any suggestions are welcome!

Posted by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
08/20/2011
900 Posts
Hi K, you are lucky, like my husband you have fair skin so the spots are not so noticeable. I am a darker Southern European so I look like a Dalmatian! So far I have found nothing that makes these spots disappear. I had accupuncture once for a few issues, I don't remember whether I mentioned this but is someone seems to have had good results I will surely try again! I have just tried a gel against fungus but it didn't do a thing because this doesn't seem to be fungal. I have tried a iodine liquid which didn't do anything either.... Creams for viltiligo, ACV to see if it would even out the color of the skin.... Not work either.... Lemon juice...... There must be an answer but I don't know what it is! Ted once recommended some supplements but I take so many supplements and no changes!
Posted by Bigdadi
Boston, Ma Usa
09/25/2011
Francisca

If you have year round allergy, please try Echinacea. Me and my son had success of it. It happened by accident as side cure as we took Echinacea in winter months (dec-mar) for purpose of helping to prevent the flu. After a couple of months 1 capsule daily, our sneezing every morning is mysteriously gone. We then think it must be Echinacea which keeps immune system to its top defense.

Posted by Francisca
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
09/26/2011
900 Posts
Thanks for the advice. I have started taking it a little while ago and indeed I don't sneeze so much anymore or hardly ever! I used to take it many years ago when I felt a big cold coming up and it always worked to minimize it!
Posted by Sen
Nyc
01/09/2013
I'm African American and just turned 30. Wishing I would have used sun screen while out on the beach. Anyone find something to help stop the white spots from multiplying? My dermotologist said there's really nothing we can do but maybe try to burn them and see if they heal and turn back to my natural color. I will not try that, sounds to extreme plus he does not advise we do.
Posted by Meeya
Sunnyvale, Ca
08/14/2014
36 Posts
Hi Ted, I tried your suggestions for the white spots that I found on my arms and legs after sunbathing this summer. I only took the supplements for 1 week and then stopped for a week when I went on vacation, and then took them for another 2 weeks . I have suddenly developed a very itchy red rash on my face. It covers 3 large patches (one on each cheek, and one on my forehead, ) and 2 other little patches. Previously, my face was completely clear, and I normally do NOT have eczema anywhere on my body. It started off as one small bump that was very itchy. A few days later it grew to be very large, red, hot, throbbing, itchy, thick skin oozing clear yellow fluid and there was a lot of swelling under the skin (the patches were raised at least 1/2 inch off my face). The liquid swelling then moved with gravity into different areas of my face and neck over the next few days. I believe the outbreak is fungal in nature. It is so itchy I can't sleep at night.

Here's what I was taking daily prior to the outbreak:

1000+mcg B12,2000-3000mg Vitamin C, 20mg folic acid, 2 TBSP Black Strap Molasses, 1000mg trimethylglycine, 1000-1500mg PABA, high dose Vitamin B Complex, 500mg NAC, 3000mg L-Glutamine (helps any leaky gut), cod liver oil (for Vitamin D), 400-600mg Tyrosine (NALT form), 40-60mg 5-HTP (to balance with NALT), and chromium. I was showering with borax daily -used as a scrub all over body except face.

I stopped taking the above supplements 8 days ago when I got the rash thinking that if it was caused by a rapid detox/ die off, I should slow down the detox until I got the rash under control so it wouldn't spread anywhere else on my body. I switched to borax baths twice a day (2 cups per bath) hoping to help with the rash, and kill fungus in my body.

In the part, I've had an itchy red rash on my face when I was in my teens due to an allergic reaction to a wood necklace, and again in my 20s when I scratched my arm open on wood, and another time it reappeared when I started oil pulling. However, the spots were always smaller, and I don't remember them weeping with fluid. I took steroids to get rid of them.

Now in my 30s this is the first time I've had a rash and I don't want to take steroids. Since the rash I've been taking 1/2 tsp baking soda daily mixed with either lemon juice or ACV. Ted, do you think that this rash is a die off / detox reaction to the supplements I was taking to get rid of the white spots? Or perhaps a reaction to the borax showers? Maybe my skin is just purging itself from the toxins of my previous rashes and steroid treatments. Do you recommend that I continue with the supplements for the white spots? Or should I not take anything and just treat the rash topically until it is gone?

All I can think is that I must have fungus or candida in my blood or digestive tract... because it definitely emerged from the inside out. Hope you get this message, and thanks so much for your help.

Posted by Sp
New Jersey, US
08/14/2014
13 Posts
Hi Meeya, I'm not sure of your total use and history of steroids, but what you are describing sounds exactly like what is being called "topical steroid withdrawal". I don't agree that that is accurate terminology, but please do a search on the phrase and please read up at the international topical steroid awareness network. Corticosteroids have a cumulative effect in the body over your lifetime. If you are sensitive to them, using them just a little again can take you back to square one in your reaction and recovery from them. Please look into this.
Posted by Meeya
Sunnyvale, Ca
08/15/2014
36 Posts
Hi Sp, That's interesting. I have heard of this phenomenon, and have been reading lots of comments here on EC from others who have experienced this type of withdrawal... which is exactly why I refuse to ever use them again (despite my family members urging me to do otherwise). Luckily, I didn't use them too much... maybe 2-3 times for a few weeks at a time, and also had steroid injections only once that I can remember. So perhaps my body is purging the chemicals now, and this was all brought on by the supplements I was taking to clear the IGH (white spots)?

I think I will wait to take any more supplements until the rash has cleared, unless Ted or someone who has used this protocol believes that continuing to take the supplements would actually be helpful and clear my skin up faster.

I have 3 little boys. I have to run errands and take them places. It is horrible having this all over my face, as there's really no hiding it. I want it gone asap, but also respect that my body may be (hopefully) going through a cleansing/ healing process and that can take some time.

Posted by Aleesha
Peabody, US
08/30/2014
Hi, I have thyroid cancer and recently underwent a total thyroidectomy and am on levothyroxine. I recently noticed a lot more white spots (idiopathic guttate hypomelanosis) on my legs arms and some on my chest. Any advice on a treatment option for me? I am worried about just taking anything you have offered here for treatment as it may interact with my medicine or my hormones/tumor regrowth in general. All replies are greatly appreciated. xo







 



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