The MBP sounds great, but is there a way to do it if you have allergies, particularly to raw to fruit/veggies?
To explain; My husband has worked in landscaping for many years, and the first seven years he worked with a company that used pesticides, and did not allow workers to use respirators or any protection. Now he uses mostly organic, but still have to use them occasionally, and with more caution. He has severe allergies every spring for months, (running and swollen eyes, feverish, sneezing uncontrollably, runny nose etc)... and cannot eat raw apples or now any fruit raw, without getting a dry, itchy metallic flavor in mouth/throat. Since we got together, I have slowly started getting the same allergies over the last 5 years, and the other day I could only take a bite of Apple, had to leave the rest; severe itchy/ dry metallic taste mouth/throat. We eat almost completely organic at home, although he doesn't stick to it as much as me... we eat a lot of tortillas, maize, beans, meat and try to include veggies/fruit every day in some form.
i love raw fruits and veggies, and don't know how to do a detox since we both react to them. (Lettuce, tomatoes, and greens seem fine raw) Cooked anything seems to be fine... Even strawberries I have to cook slightly, just a minute or so, to make a pudding or marmalade, and then we can eat them. Same with Apples; if I make apple sauce or apple pie we're fine, but raw; No...
What can I do? Could it be allergies related to Salicylates? Why has his allergies transfered to me? Could it be residual pesticides in his body? Is there a detox that can cure that?
Thank You so much to everyone who posts, this is wonderful. I wish to detox, I have so much pain, but don't know how to start...
Palo Alto, Ca
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
Palo Alto, Ca
San Antonio, Tx
I found the Mini Beet Protocol (mbp) while looking into biofilms, I had been suffering with a fungal sinus infection for over 13 years.
Over the years I had quit consuming all sugars and wheat products, as they were my triggers. Upon starting the mbp, my sinuses actually appeared to get worse, the mucous had changed and was now sticky ( my sinuses would stick together so that breathing through my nose was virtually impossible, and they were itchy like mad ) when I walked my dogs I would make a point if pinching my nose and forcing my sinuses open with air, just to get some oxygen moving in there, this would immediately take the itch away, also there was a horrible bitter taste in my mouth that would dissappear right after I ate an apple, needless to say, I ate a lot of apples.
When I read his protocol, I wondered how he knew how many apples to eat, now I understood, the first 10 days I was eating 13 apples a day and very little else, cuz I was full. On the five days off, my sinus mucous would return to normal ( as in still ever present , but no longer sticky), then on beginning again, the stickiness would return, along with the bad taste, so now I was sure it was the MBP causing this, my kidneys have done a 100 % improvement, and my sinuses are minimally improved , so I jet up the protocol, 10 days on 5 days off, and after about 2 months, my sinuses were considerably improved, the stickiness was usually only the first and second day of the protocol and the bad taste is now at bay with only 4 or 5 apples a day.
Also, I learned to make a gingerbug and had begun drinking gingerbug juice to keep up my probiotic, which also seemed to be helping . During all this time I've been doing sinus rinses with my hydra rinse ( similar to a neti pot). Then I read about a woman who encorporated her probiotic capsules into her sinus rinse, so I started putting a teaspoon of my gingerbug starter into my sinus solution ( living probiotic being better than dormant, or at least that is my thinking).
So once again I am overwhelmed with sticky discharge , and the smell ( like im now smelling the inside of my sinuses )and taste in my mouth are horrible, but after 2 wèeks , I am soo significantly better, the swelling on the roof of my mouth is finally abating after almost 14 years, and , although I wasn't really paying attention to my skin , the very obvious scar on my top lip is barely visible, my crows feet are almost non existent and the skin on my neck is tightened and firmed .
I am 54 and my sinuses have been giving me grief since I was 40, I have always been a fairly healthy eater, that has improved now out of necessity, but my sweet tooth is now gone, after 14 years without sugar, an apple seems almost excessively sweet, and I am physically very active, and very grateful to finally be feeling better!
Better But With Side Effects
I've been on MBP for 5 weeks or so by now and want to share my experience along with a couple of suggestions on how to reduce side effects.
I followed the protocol to the letter. I was fine the first 3 weeks while increasing the amount gradually from 1/4 cup of beet juice to full cup with no side effects. When I started 3/4 cup on my 3rd week, it was noticably more difficult to finish the glass, with a very slight nausea following the juice. A few other minor side effects such as headache and sore throat also felt, but very mildly. The very first full cup however, caused a severe nausea, and the second day full cup caused vomitting. But I also was in a hurry that day, literally pushing down the juice and 3 apples, and 2 carrots. So I have reduced the amount to 3/4 cups for another week. At the same time, I slowed fown the consumption speed, and added Apple Cider Vinegar 2TB to the juice. I've never had any side effects since then. Now I've been at least a week on a full cup MBP 2 TB ACV, taking in the juice slowly, and having just 1 or 2 apples and one carrot after, and not feeling any nausea at all. My husband, who was taking a short version of MBP, because he could not tolerate cinnamon, was taking it still a little bit harder than me, having sore throat and headache for the most part of the day after MBP. He followed my advice to drink slower, and with ACV, and he stopped having these side effects, too. So it seemed to work for us to be able to continue with MBP. It is still not easy, but quite tolerable.
Now benefits... Nothing dramatic happend after a month:(. My main health concern was chronic sinus inflammation, which seemed to be better the first week, but now is just as bad as ever.
However, I have a definite energy increase. A few days I missed MBP, I felt my energy level going to usual low level. My face skin became noticably younger, with fewer and shorter outbreaks. I dropped no more than a pound, but I certainly feel lighter with less abdomen bloating. Also, we did not get sick this fall, with so many sick people around. Even my husband, who is very succeptible to sore throat, with his recent overwork and a couple of chills, was sick for only 1 day, which is VERY FAST recovery for him. He had absolutely no time to get down, so we were so happy he did not, I credit MBP for that. My hair loss is reduced, the last period passed easier, my emotional state also seems to be slightly more balanced. So, yes, I certainly can see the benefits of MBP, even though we were on a full serving for only a week. I am looking forward for tackling my sinus and weight loss.
New York, Ny
Well all this reading has spurred me on to do this protocol... BUT was wondering, as I'm the lazyish type (efficient perhaps?), could I juice and blend the beetroot, fennel, carrot and celery one after the other and drink this as ONE drink or do I have to drink them separately? Well my stomach is going to blend them altogether anyway.
Thanks for everyone's information. I've spent hours reading posts on fibromyalgia on EC as I'm going round in circles trying to find the best treatment for myself.
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
Am excited about trying the MBP. Although this is my second day, I am already experiencing some wonderful "happenings". First off, with-in minutes of downing the MBP concoction.... I sneezed for about three minutes and my nose ran uncontrollably for a few minutes as well. I have been suffering with sinus infection and it has me all plugged up in the mornings upon awakening. I do the MBP first thing.... And.... It seems to be "unplugging" me! This has happened on both my mornings thus far. I found it odd that I would sneeze and get a runny nose after directly drinking the juice on both mornings. Could it be the cinnamon??? I am paying attention and journaling everything that happens to me during my MBP "experience". I am really excited.
This might sound a little bit gross but I have also noticed that just with-in a day of taking the juice, that my bowels are moving better. I have not had very good bowel movements and they tend to appear like little clusters of "rock" formations.... Yesterday evening before retiring for the night, I went to the bathroom and I heard a big PLOP! A "Boulder" fell out!!!! Figure of speech, of course...... Hmmmm.. I'm thinkin'... Must be really plugged up... Both in the Head area, and in the rear!!! Hahaha...... I am beginning to feel the difference already... And, it's only been two days. Looking forward to more Good results.
This protocol is also very filling too. I ate apples and carrots during the day. No cravings. I then ate a nice salad for dinner and am drinking lots of water. I might add that I am going to follow this protocol exactly as directed. To be cont.
Miami, Fl, Usa
Nashville, Tn, Usa
San Jose, Ca. Usa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
Better But With Side Effects
I did deal with and overcame detox effects from the mbp last year and managed it for 5 months, drinking 1 cup of beet juice with up to 1 cup asparagus juice, 2 apples and 1 medium carrot. It helped with cellulite, fat around waist and face, energy, and I believe healing /detoxing.
This past October I started again, after having some infected root canals removed. Same source for asparagus and beets. My carrots are local (no pesticides used but fertilized once, because Organic carrots are irradiated at the border) It's been about 5 weeks of the 1 cup beet mbp in the am.
Problem: I'm feeling nauseous right from the ingesting of the cinnamon which continues while downing the juice, and by the time I've eaten the apples and carrot, I have full blown detox symptoms, including a week of stabbing pains in the side of my head! Yet, my sleep is improving, and I sense this powerful detox program is healing my body. I have kidney and liver disease and am noticing stronger kidneys and less pain. I do take one (am) and often a second (pm) coffee enema a day which helps a lot. I've also had 6 ozone injections which has helped the infections. Vitamin C, E, and astaxathan I take daily. My diet is whole foods, gluten and dairy free.
Does anyone have any similar experiences or ideas as to what this could be?
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Hi! I drank 250 ml of beetroot juice on an empty stomach every morning for about 3 months. I used a green star masticating juicer. I have to say that I did not feel nauseous at all. Initially I did the apple thing afterwards for like a week, but I got tired of it and tried without and I had no problem.
I took a break now to try green juice for a while but occasionally I have beetroot juice.
I noticed on the beetroot juice that I lost tons of fat in places where I never could lose fat before. People would tell me that I looked great and wondered what I had done to look so healthy.
The coolest thing though. I have done Bikram Yoga about 5 times/week for 3 years. About a month after I started with the juice my flexibility increased exponentially. I all of a sudden could get into a couple of poses that I simply could not get into before. I then read that beetroot juice has a lot of oxalic acid, which supposedly breaks down calcium deposits in your body. Makes sense to me given my miraculous yoga experienced. I mean, I made years of progress in 4 weeks.
However, the most energy boosting thing I have ever tried is eating 3-4 medium sized beetroots raw first thing in the morning. I don't know what happens but it just gives my an insane rush of energy. Scary actually how powerful that is. But it is really time consuming to chew them down.
Madison, Wi, Usa
Wellington, New Zealand
Canon City, Colorado
I have been doing this up for my husband and myself now for more than a month. Initially, my husband got a sever headache which lasted about 24 hours. Since then, he has been fine. I chose the second simpler protocol in Roberts web site (www.robertvon.com) which was easier but still nutritious. The benefits have been numerous: better skin, digestion & sleep, more energy, feel lighter, am losing weight and walking faster and farther. To be fair, I am doing other things as well, but this is the main thing.
As I read the other entries, I see that other people are having problems. On his website, the second protocol calls for specific amounts. I believe it says:
"Separately measured out : 1 cup of beets juiced, 1 cup of fennel juiced, 1 cup of 50/50 carrot/celery.... That's it!!!! Drink down and eat one apple afterward".
Since my first one, I have had not problems. It is so beneficial that it is worth reading my reference site above for additional information to go with both protocols.
In the mean time ... To our health!
The mini beet protocol looks a little scary and I don't have a juicer. I recently found Trader Joe's Beet & Purple Carrot 100% Juice. Would this have any of the health benefits of mbp? Would eating apples after the drink be of any help or can I forget that?
Better But With Side Effects
I just started the mini-beet protocol three days ago.
I followed the directions perfectly and within 5 minutes, got hit with horrible nausea. I felt dizzy like I might pass out. Also had a tingeling sensation in my face and head, like a niacin effect. I kept eating my apples and felt things moving in my stomach and the need to poop. So I ran to the potty, with a trash can in my lap (in case I threw up) and kept eating my apple and doing what I thought was a little bit of poop. When I was finished, I saw that the potty was filled! I didn't even realize that was happening! As soon as I finished pooping, the nasea was gone. It all took less than 10 minutes, but I felt like I had just been hit by a truck! Very powerful stuff!
I decided maybe because I only weigh about 120 lbs I should start with less juice. So the next day I only juiced 1/8th a cup of each juice and had no side effects. Today, day 3, I am almost up to 1/4th cup of each juice (1/2 cup total) and still no problems at all. I am still following the protocol perfectly, just with less juice.
One weird thing happened yesterday. I have one, small age spot on my hand. I noticed a white area of skin beside it and began to lightly scratch it. The skin flaked of easily and began bleeding slightly. Today it is healing back and the age spot is gone!
Will post again when I get up to the the full mini-beet protocol juice amount.
I started the mbp 4 days ago. I started slow with 1/4 cup beet and asparagus. All was well until day 4 or so. I got an intense headache that no matter how many apples I ate it did not help. Then recently I woke up one morning with the worst neck ache that has lasted for 2 days now, causing major headaches. On the one hand I was a little happy thinking these are some major hex. reactions, but at the same time, I am struggling to keep going. The headaches I can manage, it's the neck ache I cannot. Also, I did notice my candida flared up pretty bad early on, maybe possibly my parasites as well.
Anyone else experience anything like this? I will say, I just very well might be cleaning up a pretty toxic system, and I could be on the right track. I feel like this is die-off like I have never experienced from anything I have tried in the past. Sorry for the loooooong post... Still hopeful in Seattle!
I tried the mini beet protocol and have nothing but praise for it first my blood sugar went from 11.8 down to 8.4 with in the first 3 days and now it is down to 5.8. I lost 4kg in the first 3 days and now I'm down from 94 kg to 86 kg as of this morning. My girth reading has gone from 118cm to 109.5cm all in all I would totally suggest it from a common sense approach I never felt sick but made sure I ate my apple and carrot as soon as I finished drinking the juice which dosen't taste bad at all. But I will suggest you use a cold press juicer as a friend tried it the protocol as well and didn't notice much at all. But she used one of those juicers that grinds the pulp away and is suppose to destroy certain enzymes.. Kind regards Gary
Hello all! I love this site. I've been here many times, reading the day away while I should be working, but as you already know, it's too interesting and informative to resist. Kudos to those who keep it organized and non-commercial for it is truly one of the best sites on the web. I wanted to offer my own experiences with the MVP as well as throw out a few questions.
First, my history: I have always eaten healthily. I was not raised on junk food, and my biggest offenses were a bit of wine, ice cream, and some other things. But my diet has almost always been raw organic plant based, with a little lean fish or poultry thrown in. So, that being said, I suffer from a sluggish metabolism (extremely low rate of bowel movement, if you must know), which my mother suffers from and as do many other women, I hear. Also, I was diagnosed with candida by a naturopath. I have had severe lower back pain for several years though I see I chiropractor, accupuncturist and Asian herbologist. Overall, I am very healthy yet need to lose 30 lbs of weight. Sorry for this, just think it's helpful background.
So I did a 30 day severe yeast cleanse recommended by the naturopath, and never cheated one iota. It did not get rid of the candida as far as I know and I didn't lose 1lb, althugh my boyfriend, who did it with me, lost 15 and is still going strong, though he's no longer doing the yeast cleanse. In fact I gained a couple of pounds and my belly swelled up. So thinking I was reacting badly to something (she had us switch to coconut milk, and sheep or goat cheese, for example) I stopped the protocol, and after much searching around, adopted the MBP. Again, I followed to the letter for two weeks, while eating some other things, ie cooked spinach with olive oil, which he recomends, and so on. Again, not one pound lost, though I hope it is working with the candida. AS he explains, the beets are like a trojan horse: they lure out the fungi with their sweetness, then whammo--obliteration! Also, for those who have eliminated the apples, Robert says that the beets--apples--carrots combo work in conjunction with each one another. The beets go in first and do a clean sweep, then the apples get what the beets missed, then the carrots get into the nooks and crannies--or something like that. So the apples are not just for nausea. Also, there is a more recent podcast one the web from 3//2010. Radio One Network, if you do a search yoi will find it. He has a ton of info on there, including HGH, getting rid of gray hair, and some other things. Someone on one of the interviews suggested throwing a lemon in the mix in order to keep the beets down--and after experiencing one minor bought of nasuea (i had gone up to a cup of beets after one week of 1/4 at that point) I started adding 1/2 lemon to the juicer and no more nasuea. I have maintained a cup of beets plus asparagus a day now followed by 1 1/2 apples for about 2-3 weeks.
As for my constituion--the beets work wonders. Never has anything worked as well as this. My belly still is swollen, though. I am off dairy and wheat completely except for the occaisonal hi-quality yogurt. So, the beets and asparagus are ideally drunk 3 or more times a day if I understand Robert correctly. But I can only manage 1-2 times. I'm going to go down to tue-wed-thu, which Robert suggests is ideal for the rest of your life. We'll see. Incidentally, I've done an exhaustive search on the internet and can find no other information on Robert Von Sarbacher than what's been mentioned here. He seems to be in the finance industry, and obsessed with anti-aging (he used to drink four cups of carrot juice every day in college) began using himself as a guinea pig. That and prayer, he says, led him to the beet protocol. Obviously, he spent some time in Mexico working on ridding people of flouride poisoning. I'm interested to hear if anyone knows anything more. I'll try to update with my progress. If anyone can address my swollen belly and lack of wieght loss I would be grateful. My naturopath says it may take years of experimentation to find out what works and what doesn't. I hope to circumvent that. Thanks, and good luck!
Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France
Hi, I've been reading through this site for the past 6 months or so and have found it very useful! Thanks, EC! I just started the MBP this morning but I have been juicing for the past couple of weeks with things like beets, fennel, cilantro, celery etc. I do have a question. Is it necessary to take the cinammon? I suffer from GERD and I don't know if that is what caused my extreme reaction to the cinammon shot with water. I did it on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and I was hit by so much nausea and bloating all at once followed by typical GERD symptoms. I can handle the juices and apples but don't think that I can do the cinammon. I want to try the asparagus and beets first because of the good results I read about. So long story short... Will it still work if I don't do the cinammon?
Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada
I have been doing the MBP now for two months, I feel and look better than I have in twenty years. These are by far the best results experienced, having tried various juicing regimes over the years. I juice two organic beets with their green tops and six carrots, this makes aprox. 14 oz. Of juice. With this mixture it not only tastes great but I find no need to eat the apples after.