Turpentine and Kerosene Remedies

Last Modified on Mar 01, 2015

Gum spirits of turpentine and kerosene have a long history as natural remedy options for a variety of health ailments. Kerosene (also known as paraffin oil) is a crude oil distillate used for lighting, heating, etc. Turpentine is distilled from pine tree resin (though mineral turpentine is another petroleum distillate).

CAUTION: Though there is a long tradition of its use as an anti-fungal, pest killer, and first aid treatment in folk medicine, ingesting kerosene can be deadly in large enough quantities. Turpentine and kerosene can each do damage to the kidneys and nervous system; their vapors can hurt the eyes and respiratory system.

Home Remedies: Turpentine and kerosene have long been used to treat lice infestations, to flush parasites from the digestive tract, and to soothe sore joints and muscles as well as for use as an expectorant and to open the lungs as with a chest rub (mixed with an oil base). More recently, gum spirits of turpentine is being used in Anti-Candida protocols.


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Arthritis   0  0   

Posted by Softa (Houston, Texas) on 10/22/2014

I have been using turpentine and honey to treat severe arthritis for over a week but haven't seen any results as yet.

I'm using Klean Strip (from hardware store) but have ordered more from Georgia, I believe..Mountain something?) Is there a difference between the two? I have been using a 1:1 ratio of 1 tsp honey to 1 tsp turp. Should I up the dosage? How long can I expect to see results?

Also, I've read some mention "Bill." How would I contact him for more information? Thanks

Replied by Beth
Ga, US
10/26/2014

Dr. Jennifer Daniels says to put 1/3 to 1tsp on sugar cubes as to bait the fungus, yeast, parasites. Look her up on the web. She has a lot of radio show recordings you can listen to on her site. I think it's called vitalitycapsuls. Com
Replied by Joe
Calgary, Alberta
12/06/2014

I am thinking of using Turpentine. I am also considering Ozone therapy. Would be interested in knowing if these would be in conflict with each other, and if so what I could do.
Replied by Jason
Iowa, US
12/15/2014

I recently used Dr Daniel's Turpentine protocol to remove Candida. She lists that people who have had Candida for more than two years might take Turpentine daily for 4 days. I only went 2 days, on that day it ran for the exit, literally, it was disgusting and creepy. My arthritus has improved though not yet gone. I stopped after that second day last Tuesday and plan to do it again tomorrow, exactly one week from last Tuesday. Except now I wil do her normal 2 doses a week plan. My leaky gut symptoms are nearly gone and my MSG sensitivity is drastically improved. You MUST purchase 100% pure gum spirits of Turpentine otherwise some other deadly chemicals could be in there and Turpentine is dangerous enough on it's own. I bought mine from Home Depot, though a gal told me some place in Georgia has the best stuff you can buy, maybe from the place already mentioned. My symptoms overall were Anxiety, Brain fog, facial cramping, restless leg, low energy, trouble urinating, slouching, intestinal ache/burn, massive carb cravings, etc.
Replied by Jason
Iowa
12/22/2014

I did 2 days of turpentine again but this time with one day in between. I had felt about 80-90% better and was testing the limits food wise which set me back some. I quickly had jock itch and horrible armpit smell, which the jock itch was not there before the multiple candida bowel movements last week.

I've tried tea tree oil and hydrogen peroxide but they did not seem to work. Now trying apple cider vinegar and maybe garlic next.

Anyway, on the second dose of Turpentine, Candida (or whatever it is) once again ran for the exit. I think I used to much turpentine this time as I did a week ago as both times, on the day that I had multiple bowel movements, afterward I felt drunk, probably from turpentine reaching the brain. Though never have I taken more than one teaspoon with three sugar cubes. Also, on those days that I had multiple bowel movements I drank a huge amount of water after taking the turpentine. I really wanted to give it an easy exit opportunity and I have to wonder if this is why on those days I had so many bowel movements verses the first day's dose, though it could just be a matter of cumulative days/doses. Also I wonder if all the water helped the turpentine travel through my blood steam to my brain to produce the drunk feeling.

Anyway, I'll be waiting again to let it get out of my system, and then I'll use a smaller 1/2 teaspoon dose with a lot of water after.

Replied by Mary
Usa
01/02/2015

Like Softa, I too tried the turpentine for extreme arthritis but have seen results I was not expecting. I tried Dr Daniels protocol using the sugar cubes and 1 tsp. of turp. and have had 2 doses. The first on a Fri. and then the following up with the second dose on Tues. My back feels better (but wondering if that isn't due to the enemas). The unexpected result I experienced is that my left knee and right hip are in terrible pain, hurting more than ever. My knee seems to hurt the worst and oddly I didn't have pain in it before I started the protocol. I have also found that by drinking so much water my feet and legs swell up something awful so I did cut back on how much I drink. I keep a quart jar of distilled water with me at all times and drink from it throughout the day (refilling as I go) and my guess is that I am drinking about 3/4 of a gal., which I seem to be able to handle.I am also drinking juices that I make at home with my juicer. I will continue to try for a few more weeks to see if there are any improvements.

I first heard of turpentine being used as med. when I was very young from my grandparents and then again about 8-10 yrs ago from a gentleman in his mid 70's. My children had gotten head lice while in primary school and he told me I should give them a dose because it would get rid of anything. Of course I didn't because I thought it was poisonous. Seems his family used it as he was growing up.

If anyone knows why the pain in my knee and hip have gotten worse I would love to hear or any suggestions regarding the arthritis. I also have considered the oxygen therapy as well. The thought of drinking water that tastes like bleach doesn't appeal to me but if it helps the arthritis that would be worth it.

Replied by Timh
KY
01/02/2015

Mary: You are experiencing "detox reactions" from only two doses of turpentine. Chronic arthritis (pain & inflammation) isn't really a disease in itself, it is a symptom of disease caused by bad diet, toxicity, infection, etc.

Depending on the severity of your case (usually severity coincides w/ age) will determine how bad the "reactions" and how much time it takes to clear the bad stuff.

Here is a link to the detox page for more info http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/detoxification.html

For starters I highly recommend antioxidant nutrition (a deficiency of which causes many types of chronic and inflammatory conditions), Dr Christopher's "Red Clover Combination" herb caps, Epsom Salts/Baking Soda/Borax whole body hot baths, Iodine, and ACV. Detox Foot Spas & Patches are great for eliminating heavy metals and zenobiotics as well as parasites.

Replied by Txamamom
Arlington Tx
01/18/2015

[SIDE EFFECTS]   Mary, I believe your hurting in your knee and hip is due to your body getting rid of the arthritis. It takes a while for your body to rid itself of arthritis after you start taking the medicine like turpentine. I was checking out candida cleanse online and that protocol is taken for 6 weeks and it is understood that your body continues even after you are done with the program to rid your body of toxins. Usually, your body experiences effects of removing the toxins with nausea, aching, headaches, extreme fatigue, etc. Your body aching in parts where you have never experience pain is right there with the effects others have experienced. You will probably get worse before you get better but don't get discouraged. The way I feel about it is that the sicker I am while taking the stuff, the better I will feel when the body is finished releasing the toxins. If you do not get the results you hoped with taking turpentine, you might check out the book CANDIDA Killing So Sweetly by Bill Thompson. Also, be careful not to take too much of the turpentine at a time and don't take it too long. While it can be curing, it can also be deadly taking too much of it. Taking turpentine is suppose to be the last alternative in the Candida Cleanse like what you do when the regular cleanse does not get it all and the Candida returns again after you believe you have rid your body of all Candida. When you read the Candida book, you will see that Candida is the cause of your arthritis and when you get rid of the Candida, you will rid your body of the pain of arthritis. You will get rid of a myriad of other maladies also. You are obviously very smart because you are finding solutions for the problems your body is experiencing and not waiting on a doctor to help. There are many of us out here that are taking our help in our hands and looking for solutions. Don't stop searching and finding solutions....that is the true key. I believe this is one reason they say we are the generation to live to be 150 years old. We will not depend on traditional medicine to cure our ills.
Replied by Mr. Ree
Usa
01/20/2015

Take a capsule of cayenne and a capsule of turmeric and a pinch of pepper after every meal...You should see a difference in less than a week...

I saw the reply about living to 150...I don't know about that but I'm living to 120 and will make the decision to go further at that point...Drugs will shorten your life...Educate yourself for your sake and your family's sake.

Autism   1  0   

Posted by Abdi (Toronto Canada) on 03/22/2014

Hi Bill, thanks for your good work for humanity. I have come to know turpentine recently after I bought and read your book Candida killing so sweetly. I have an autistic kid who is 17 years old. can you please let me know the turpentine protocol for autism. Thanks

Replied by Bill
San Fenando, Philippines
03/22/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Abdi...Since your son is 17 y o then he should take adult dosages. The Turpentine protocol is quite simple and involves combining the following:

Castor Oil -- Dose range 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon.

Turpentine -- 1 teaspoon of pure gum spirit turpentine.

Add for taste -- one teaspoon of Molasses or Honey.

Start with small dosages of turpentine -- best to start with drop dosages of your choice or start him with 1/4 tspn and slowly work up to the full 1 tspn dose. Take turpentine just before meals. Start you son taking turps just twice a week then work towards giving him turps on a one day on, one day off protocol. Take plenty of breaks from this protocol because this regimen kills a large range of pathogens including parasites, candida, bacteria, viruses, mycoplasma etc. So he will probably get significant die-off(Herx) and detox reactions. Adjust the dosage accordingly to reduce the stress.

You can buy pure gum spirit turpentine at Walmart or Home Depot and other sellers. Brands of turpentine that you can buy and use in the protocol:

Diamond G Forest Products -- Organic Turpentine

Klean Strip Turpentine 1 -- Walmart or Home Depot

KleanStrip 1-K Kerosene -- Walmart or Home Depot

Other nutrients that your son should take are Lugols Iodine, Borax Water and Alkalizing -- You can find all descriptions and dosages for these protocols on EC or in my book on candida. Other necessary and essential protocols are described in this document and, in greater detail, in my book:

Adjunct Nutrients to Help Minimize Detox and Herx Reactions and to Help Proper Brain Development and Healing (wrt Learning, Social and Behavioural Problems)

You can also add the Hulda Clark Parasite Protocol(Google it) to this regimen which would also benefit your son.

Lastly, it would also greatly help your son if he took enemas regularly at least two or three times a week. Parasites and pathogens can hide safely in the lower intestines because most nutrients that you take by mouth will be completely absorbed or expended by the time they reach the lower intestines(the intestines is 28 ft long). This is why you should incorporate enemas into his regimen.

Replied by Bill
San Fenando, Philippines
03/22/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Abdi...I forgot to mention diet. Avoid the following foods: sugar, wheat, dairy products, yeast products and avoid medicines like anti-depressants, painkillers, steroids and all antibiotics. All these things feed or encourage the spread of pathogens in the body -- especially candida -- and avoiding them will also help to reduce allergies.
Replied by Kristen
Florida, US
09/03/2014

[YEA]   I just wanted to say Bill does such a wonderful job helping people. What a thorough answer you gave this woman, and everyone else. God bless you for taking the time to help these total strangers.
Replied by Tina
Princeton, Nj
09/04/2014

Hi Kristen, I completely agree with your comment. Bill is always prompt to reply to queries and offers EC readers full and free use of his extensive research and studies. It's nice of you to note that too! We are a very lucky bunch of readers.
Replied by Saquita
Buffalo, New York
10/03/2014

Greetings All, I am a mom of 4 beautiful children and we are all in a health crisis. I've been reading about parasites and I know this to be the culprit. My 3 year old has already had her adenoids removed. I have refused the doctor to take out her tonsils, which are huge. Also, her belly is dissented and she craves sugar..I know that there is a better way. I'm not sure of the doses I should be using. Can you please enlighten me on this topic.
Replied by Timh
KY
10/04/2014

Children are notorious for housing all types parasites. Those at highest risk have pets indoors. It is very important to keep pets dewormed --Fenbendazole is a favorite broad-spectrum parasiticide.

Your local health food store has herbal de-wormers (Garlic, Oregano, Black Walnut Hulls, Wormwood, and Clove are favorites) which may be sufficient for the children.

Turpentine is known especially for fungal issues but is also somewhat effective for certain parasites like tape, round, and flatworms.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
10/04/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Saquita...I've been helping a group of parents with autistic children and they have been using turps to good effect for their kids. The dosage for a 3 y o would be between 1/4 and 1/2 tspn of turpentine taken together with a teaspoon or two of castor oil. This protocol should be used only twice a week.

I've also discovered that using castor oil with turps is a key factor in the protocol. The turps will kill all manner of pathogens and parasites but will not harm the beneficial gut flora. The castor oil is necessary because it helps to spread the turps throughout the whole area of the intestines for a better and more thorough all-round effect.

I think that perhaps your child's gut may be overrun with pathogens and so the turps/castor oil would be a good protocol to follow.

Other protocols that you can also investigate and consider for your child are supplementing Boswellia(Frankincense) and/or undecanoic acid(which is derived from castor oil). Frankincense is called shallaki in Ayurvedic medicine and they use it widely in Ayurveda for gut problems as well as for arthritis.

There was also a mother in the autistic parents group who successfully and completely healed her child back to normal(according to her ATEC scores). One of the child's main anti-parasitic protocols was taking cinnamon, clove, raw garlic and tumeric mixed with ghee or clarifed butter several times a day with food. This protocol kills both parasites and pathogens. The key point in this protocol was that she used ghee -- a saturated oil -- as the carrier medium.

Many people miss the importance of taking nutrients in the best way possible by using the correct carrier medium. Notably she took all those herbal ingredients mixed with ghee because all the active ingredients within the herbs/nutrients themselves were probably oil soluble and not so soluble in water. That's why she was so successful with this protocol. You could also probably use coconut oil as a carrier substitute for the ghee. Virgin coconut oil also kills a wide variety of enveloped pathogens as well.

Also please be aware that if your child has a widespread gut infection and takes the turps/castor oil protocol then she will probably suffer a Herx or die-off reaction with accompanying strange or hyper behaviour. After a widespread pathogen/parasite kill in the gut, with consequent temporary release of further poisons into her gut(from the killed pathogens/parasites), these poisons will be temporarily absorbed into her blood which may perhaps cause some strange or hyper behaviours. This is normal and unavoidable and should abate after a short while after her liver eventually removes these die-off poisons from her blood.

Replied by Iowama
Iowa, Usa
10/04/2014

Saquita,

Regarding your daughter's swollen belly; I accidentally caused my granddaughter's distended belly by insisting on feeding her oatmeal with breakfast. I have a zeal about feeding kids real foods while they are in my care and I thought oats had a part in that mix. For her, they didn't. She would return home to her microwave meals and her belly would go flat again. Although you are probably right, I just wanted to add that you might have a food allergy on your hands. ~With best wishes that you find your answer.

Replied by Jake
Texas
12/26/2014

Bill, do you think it would be helpful to take Vitamin C for any Herx or die-off reaction? I've seen this in detox protocols to protect the liver. Not sure if applies here. Thanks!
Replied by Bill
San Fernando
12/26/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Jake...Vitamin C is useful and I also use it in my own protocols against candida. Ordinary Vitamin C -- ascorbic acid -- is also useful for detoxing but best used to bowel tolerance strength and that's because vitamin c is so poorly absorbed into the body from the gut. Only about 15% to 20% of oral vitamin c(in either ascorbate or ascorbic acid forms) is absorbed into the blood. So this is quite an inefficient and wasteful way to take vitamin c.

Other more efficient ways of supplementing vitamin are as follows:

* By IV as ascorbate
* Lyphosomal Vitamin C
* Vitamin C(as ascorbate) + DMSO used transdermaly
* Oral or transdermal dehydroascorbic acid(DHA)

Most people already know all about taking the the oral, IV and Lyphosomal forms of vitamin c. But taking it as DHA is interesting. The DHA form, when taken orally, is absorbed from the gut into the blood much more efficiently and quickly than with the ordinary oral form. DHA is also easily absorbed into the cells because it is a glucose mimic. It takes a different pathway from the gut into the blood and this is called the GLUT-1 pathway. The body thinks the DHA is glucose and will therefore absorb much larger amounts of DHA more easily into the blood and cells. And if you starve your body of glucose -- as in IPT therapy -- then this will sensitize the GLUT-1 receptors more which will then absorb even higher amounts of DHA into the cells. Another unique advantage of DHA is that it is easily absorbed across the blood/brain and blood/bone barriers whereas this is not the case for ordinary vitamin c. The only problem with the DHA form is that it seems to be more expensive than the ordinary oral vitamin c form.

If you want a cheap and cheerful way to orally supplement DHA then, as Ted from Bangkok recommends, all you need is lugols iodine, Baking Soda(Arm & Hammer is fine to use), Ascorbic acid and a glass of water. First add 1/4 tspn of ascorbic acid(1 gram) to the water. Then add 6 drops of LI. You will notice that the iodine in the water turns from brown to clear and that's because the ascorbic acid is oxidized and converted to DHA while the molecular iodine is reduced to clear iodide. The last thing you add is the baking soda -- add this until the fizzing stops. Now you have an oral solution of sodium ascorbate + iodide + DHA in ascorbate form. Cheaper, convenient and effective.

Another useful way to take vitamin c(as ascorbate) is transdermally using DMSO and water(70% DMSO + 30% water by volume). To this ascorbate/DMSO mixture just add 6 drops of iodine. This creates some DHA in the mix. Therefore, when you paint your skin with this mixture, the DMSO will efficiently carry about 80% of the Vit C + DHA + iodide directly into the blood. This simple transdermal method also has the other advantage of not causing any problems or ructions in the gut because you're not taking it orally.

Concerning candida and detox I would take something like Vitamin C, Sodium Thiosulfate or EDTA for detoxing the blood and organs but I would also make sure to take chlorella for purely intestinal detox. Dr William Kelly verified in his writings that chlorella contains large molecules called alginates. These large molecules, after they bind to heavy metals in the gut, cannot be absorbed or redistributed into the blood from the colon because alginate is such a huge molecule -- that's why alginates can only remove heavy metals in the gut. With the other forms -- Vitamin C, Sodium Thiosulfate etc that act in the blood -- their will always be some redistribution of heavy metals in the body. So that's one very good reason to use chlorella for gut detox -- especially when you have candida because candida biofilms in the gut contain such high amounts of heavy metals. So when you destroy alot of candida biofilms using turpentine then you must take the chlorella 1/2 hr to 1 hr after the turps to mop up and neutralize all the heavy metals released from biofilm destruction. if you don't mop up these heavy metals in the gut promptly and appropriately then they will just get absorbed into the blood via the colon to cause all manner of physical, mental and other symptoms and problems.

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
12/26/2014

Dear Bill,

Thanks for taking time to post this fascinating information! I have a couple of questions if you do not mind.

The recipe to make DHA with lugol's, ascorbic acid and baking soda - would that be an appropriate way to get a more easily absorbed form of vitamin C for general immune boosting? (Like for when you are sick with a cold?)

Also, would this "count" towards your iodine and vitamin C needs for those using the Iodine protocol for thyroid?

Finally, is the Lugol's you use for this the 5% version?

I take the equivalent of 8 drops a day of 5% (still finishing up my 2% bottle) and am wondering if I made and took the DHA if I would still want to take more iodine, or if at that point, it would be overkill.

Thanks so much!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Bill
S
12/27/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Mama to Many...In answer to your questions:

The recipe to make DHA with lugol's, ascorbic acid and baking soda - would that be an appropriate way to get a more easily absorbed form of vitamin C for general immune boosting? (Like for when you are sick with a cold?)

If you require more absorbable vitamin c then, yes, taking it with LI will increase the absorption of vitamin c(as dehydroascorbic acid) into the body.

To begin to answer this question I've come to the belief that Vitamin C, Lugols Iodine and Sea Salt are all critical for the immune system because all these nutrients actually constitute the main ammunition to help the neutrophils engulf and destroy pathogens for the immune system. The phagocytes and neutrophils of the immune system actively destroy all pathogens -- viruses, bacteria, fungi etc -- by spraying out hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid and hypoiodous acid over the engulfed pathogen which immediately destroys these pathogens who have no defence and cannot possibly adjust to these substances because their destructive action is so quick. Then they are engulfed and digested by the phagocytes for later excretion via the liver.

From my own research, vitamin c is indeed vital to the immune system and is stored onboard the phagocyte, later to be converted into hydrogen peroxide. Similarly, sea salt or chlorides are absorbed and stored by the phagocyte to later be converted by an enzyme(myeloperoxidase) together with the hydrogen peroxide(from vitamin c) to create the hypochlorous acid that is sprayed out over the pathogen to kill it. Exactly the same process happens when the iodide stored in the phagocyte is later converted and used as hypoiodous acid to kill all manner of pathogens. What's more, I've read research where they confirmed that the hypoiodous acid form was seven times stronger at killing pathogens than the hypochlorous acid form.

It should also be of interest, with everyone's somewhat one-sided fascination and praise of just anti-oxidants, that hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid and hypoiodous acid are all oxidants that use their unique free-radical action to kill pathogens in the human body at the appropriate time. The fascinating thing that occurs to me is that the human body critically needs the correct balance of both oxidants(free-radicals) and anti-oxidants in the body to have a healthy and strong immune system. Another important outcome from this is that it appears to be the habit of the normal human body to store useful oxidants as anti-oxidants. And when these dangerous free-radical oxidants are sprayed outside the phagocyte to kill pathogens and, after completion of this task, then other enzymes in the blood such as catalase or SOD will act to safely mop up and remove these dangerous excess free-radicals from the blood which, if left to accumulate unchecked, would further act to cause host cell damage in the human body.

My conclusions are that both oxidants and antioxidants are essential and critical for the human body to be healthy with a strong immune system. I take sea salt, vitamin c and larger dose LI every day. This is also perhaps why I have caught no infectious disease like a cold or flu or anything within the last 9 years. And no autoimmune problems yet either even though I'm a fairly old geezer. All I'm doing here is simply keeping my immune system ammo up to scratch and this has worked quite well for me as a sort of ongoing preventative protocol.

Also, would this "count" towards your iodine and vitamin C needs for those using the Iodine protocol for those using the Iodine protocol for thyroid?

Taking the iodine with Vitamin C certainly will count towards more iodide storage in the thyroid and body. But, getting deeper into it, the body really needs the triiodide, iodide and molecular iodide forms. SSKI is useful as iodide for the thyroid but it does not have the molecular iodine or triiodide forms. Nascent Iodine(NI) is also useful because it contains just triiodide form. But triiodide will not detox heavy metals or halides(bromine and fluorine) out of the body. NI is touted as being the easiest iodine form for absorption in the body. Not true. For instance the female breast can only accept and store the molecular iodine form. This is why I prefer the LI form of iodine -- it's just the best and most complete form of iodine out there.

Finally, is the Lugol's you use for this the 5% version?

Yes I always use 5% LI for my own protocols. For all dosages that I give out you should be using 5% LI. This seems to confuse people. For instance if, say, you are using 2% LI and take 8 drops a day then that is not the dose I recommend -- too low because 8 drops of 5% LI is equivalent to 20 drops of 2% LI. Another way of looking at this is that 5% LI contains 50 mgs iodine/iodide whereas 8 drops of 2% LI contains only 20 mgs iodine/iodide. See the LI mgs to drop conversion chart here.

I take the equivalent of 8 drops a day of 5% (still finishing up my 2% bottle) and am wondering if I made and took the DHA if I would still want to take more iodine, or if at that point, it would be overkill.

Taking LI with just water or with vitamin c is really your choice depending on what problem you are addressing. I use the vitamin c with LI to increase the negative conductivity of the cells in my body which is so good for overall health. But when you take LI with vitamin c you are essentially taking ascorbic acid, DHA and just the iodide form. This is why I always take the LI form with water -- this ensures that I get the triiodide, iodide and molecular iodine forms that are all so beneficial for the body.

Some more information for you which will immeasurably help anybody's immune system. The nutrient is called bovine colostrum. In 1957 a French virologist name Albert Sabin invented the first oral polio vaccine which he synthesized and made from bovine colostrum. He also loudly proclaimed that all young children should take colostrum every day. Dairy farmers have known about the beneficial effects of colostrum for centuries.

I've recently been reading where colostrum will cure all forms of allergies as well as actively cure infectious and autoimmune diseases. See the evidence and read why here.

Benefits of Colostrum

I've also been reading where people have been cured of CFS, Fibro, MS, gut problems and there was one gent who had serious candida issues who only drank one gallon of the liquid colostrum straight from the cow which cured him completely of candida and all his allergies problems (including allergies to milk and wheat) within two weeks. All he did was to slowly drink one gallon of bovine colostrum until it was gone.

Some more research on the effects of Immune Milk(more pathogen-specific than colostrum) against a host of bacterial, fungal and viral diseases:

Immune Milk Facts

So it seems as if colostrum is a nutrient that acts as a completely safe multi-vaccine for kids and grown-ups alike. It seems to be a very fast way to reset, retrain and stregthen the immune system. Bovine Colostrum contains bovine anti-bodies against all the common diseases in our environment like Candida, Shigella, H Pylori, Staph, Strep, Epstein Barr, HSV, E. Coli etc. that get passed like blueprints from the mother cow directly to the child or adult to help strengthen the immune system by leaps and bounds. So if a child or adult is continually sick with a weak immune system with lots of allergies or gut problems then colostrum will definitely provide lasting benefit.

The best colostrum seems to come from New Zealand where all cows are grass fed without being force-fed antibiotics, steroids, unnatural feeds etc.

I only thought to mention colostrum because I am well aware that you worry about your own kids health and well being(especially in the winter season).

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
12/27/2014

Dear Bill,

Thank you so much for your detailed explanations. That is very helpful!

I also appreciate the information about Bovine Colostrum. I will have to learn more about that!

Thanks again!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Marcus
Los Angeles, CA
12/28/2014

Hi Bill,

I can find sodium thiosulfate on internet according from your book. Info. are as below;

Sodium thiosulfate 10% (w/v)

contain - sodium thiosulfate pentahydrate(10102-17-7)

specifications-

Assay. 9.95-10.05% (w/v)

traceable to Nist SRM 136

For lab use only.Not for drug, food or household use.

made in USA ( Brand --RICCO )

Is it safe for candida?

Thanks,

Marcus

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
12/28/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Marcus...The 10% Sodium Thiosulfate you have bought should be fine to use internally because its lab grade. But, as Ted from Bangkok also recommends, ordinary sodium thiosulfate(ST) bought from an aquaculture shop should also be fine to use(and its much cheaper). The aquaculture ST is mainly used to remove chlorine from fishtank water to help protect the fish and keep them healthy.

In case you believe that 10 %ST bought from an aquaculture shop is not as good or as pure as lab grade, please remember that fish are far more sensitive to chlorine and heavy metal poisoning than humans. So this fact proves that the purity of aquaculture grade ST is quite sufficient for us humans. I've been using aquaculture grade ST for detoxing for about the last 9 years and it has worked well without any problems at all. Just trying to save you some money here because lab grade ST is usually more expensive than aquaculture grade ST.

Replied by Indigogirl
Reno, Nv
01/01/2015

Thank you thank you thank you for posting this! I have been reading, studying and taking notes as I get ready to embark on my candida cleanse. Planning to start my first turp / castor oil flush next week... and had no idea that it would leave behind heavy metals. CHLORELLA is absolutely essential for all of us who will be using this protocol! Hopefully many other will read your post and benefit. Zeolites are great for absorbing heavy metals as well... so I will take that as well.

Your info on DHA is also very appreciated and will start that tomorrow! Can't thank you enough!

Best Type of Turpentine   2  0   

Posted by Carol (Manchester, England) on 08/29/2014

Hi. I've read everything I can find on turpentine, and really think it will help me. Thank you to everyone who has written of their experiences - it is so helpful.

I contacted Diamond G Forest Products, as they seem to provide the best turpentine. I was told that they don't ship to England. I have managed to obtain an alternative, but am not sure about the quality.

Is there anybody in the USA who would be interested in buying a can for me, and posting it out to me? I will of course pay for this.

Carol

Replied by Timh
KY
08/30/2014

Carol: Search the Ebay pages and you should find a product of god quality and shipping details are provided by seller. Here is the page:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Health-Beauty-/26395/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Turpentine

Let us know of any progress.

Replied by Derrick Foreman
The Woodlands, Tx
10/02/2014

Hi Carol! I actually ordered turpentine from diamond g forest turpentine and am taking it myself. It is a huuuuge difference in the canned stuff from the hardware store and I would be willing to help you get some
Replied by Marilyn
Houston, TX
10/13/2014

Hi Derrick. Please help me get some of the better grade turpentine.
Replied by Andreea
Constanta, Romania
01/05/2015

I am in need of some quality turpentine-I found the mylands one-http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mylands-Pure-Gum-Turpentine-Litre/dp/B00ECBPAPS/ref=sr_1_1/278-4128745-6314034?ie=UTF8&qid=1420226113&sr=8-1&keywords=turpentine+gum but I am not sure if it's as good as diamond g forest ones. If there's more people who want from Europe maybe we can order together and get a discount on the shipping (since I assume it's huge since it's such a long way). I actually created a group on fb-turpentine so if you want to talk more or post stuff you discovered about turpentine you are welcome to join: https://www.facebook.com/groups/748253278586345/

Posted by Madhu (Sfo) on 02/15/2014

[YEA]  This question is for Bill Thompson. Is aged Turp more effective than regular Turp? if Yes, Are the dosages and herx reactions of aged Turp same as in regular Turp? Thanks, Madhu.

Replied by Bill
San Fenando, Philippines
02/16/2014

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Hi Madhu...I really see very little difference between aged and normal turpentine. Both the oxidized and reduced forms of beneficial iso-pinenes in turpentine are good for the body. See this link. So whether the turpentine is aged (oxidized) or not would seem to make little difference as to its effectiveness for the body.
Replied by Madhu
Sfo
02/17/2014

[YEA]   This question is for Bill Thompson. Thanks for your response. Is aged Turpentine pro-oxidant. And is regular Turpentine anti-oxidant?
Replied by Rishicash
Long Beach, Ca
03/09/2014

Kleen Strip does make a Pure Gum Spirits Turpentine which is the one Tony uses. If you live in the US you can get it at Walmart for $1 cheaper than Home Depot. I use this for external, but for internal I use the Diamond G Forest Products because you can't get any purer than this product. http://www.diamondgforestproducts.com/
Replied by Rishicash
Long Beach, Ca
03/09/2014

I've read through all of the posts here for candida/turpentine therapy but didn't come across anything about a protocol diet. This blog is Best Type of Turpentine, but I couldn't find anything else regarding it.

The reason I bring this up is that I've had severe, chronic candida/parasites/intestinal bacteria for 30+ years and spent thousand of dollars and suffered through numerous programs with absolutely no benefit until I tried Turp with which I started to feel better the next day.

Back to the diet. I followed Dr. Daniels protocol to the letter for six weeks. Dr. D says that 3-4 eliminations daily are required along with super hydrating...and no meat or dairy. Her recommended diet is very carb based with grains in particular. After six weeks I decided to come off of it to see how I would feel and the first thing that happened is that I got very constipated immediately and has remained that way for two months now which has freaked me out a bit since I wasn't pre-protocol. My symptoms also started to return soon afterwards.

I tried to get some advice about the constipation from Dr. D, but she kept trying to sell me her book and sessions which I can't afford. I got ahold of Tony Pantalleresco as I had nowhere else to turn for advice and although he is quite a character, he was very generous with his time and advice...as in free. I explained to him what was going on and even sent him Dr. D's protocol. Tony was emphatic that the constipation problem was due to all of the grains and that they were terrible for candida. He didn't say anything about 3-4 eliminations a day or super hydrating, etc.

So although the turpentine part is the same, they are two very different protocols. Dr. D says the treatment won't be effective or can even be harmful if not followed precisely and Tony says otherwise. True, Dr. D has an MD, but she also has a business degree from Wharton.

I've been afraid to resume turpentine therapy since I was afraid that I might have damaged my system resulting in constipation, but Tony has assured my that isn't the case. I'm staring again with Tony's recommendation tomorrow. I'd like to hear what anyone else has to offer on this. There aren't many people who are familiar with Turp therapy and this is the only Turp forum I've found.

Replied by Mike62
Denver
03/10/2014

Rishicash: There is just one word that describes the super hero who comes to everybody's rescue: enzymes. Enzymes are a mixture of nutrients that have more electrons than protons. They make high energy water. Activated barley has the most enzymes. Home grown sprouts and live ferments are second. Raw organic produce and raw grass fed animal products are third.
Replied by Lina
Chgo.illinois
10/25/2014

Constipation is a sign of dehydration start drinking more water preferably alkaline water to balance the bodys ph an 8 or higher and take you some probiotics or eat greek yogurt, at least once a day.Raw vege juice always jumpstarts a constipated colon carrot celery apple is a nice combination. Fishoil omega 3 also helps a stressed colon. Hopefully you will find relief with these solutions, good luck.
Replied by Timh
KY
10/26/2014

One spoon of Milled Flax Seed would definitely add a big boost to the veggie-juice.

Posted by Dawn (Los Angeles) on 01/29/2014

Hi, Wondering if anyone knows if Klean Strip Green - Pure Turpentine Derived from Tree Resin - is a good product to take. It does not say Pure gum spirits anywhere on the can so I am a bit worried. Please advise.

Replied by Joyce
Lansdowne, Pa
01/29/2014

I was watching Tony Pantalleresco video on turpentine and that is the brand he used.
Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/29/2014

Hello Dawn from LA: The type of turpentine I purchased from Wal-Mart is made by Klean Strips brand. Here is the link to that turpnetine: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Klean-Strip-Turpentine-1-qt/23760393

This type does have Pure Gum Spirits written on the front of the can. This type was approved here at EC by Bill Thompson as per his anti-candida protocol. Thanks & God Bless!

Replied by Jere
Cabarete, Dominican Republic
02/11/2014

Greetings. I'm pleased to have found your site. I was introduced to using rectified turpentine many years ago by a homeopathic physician. I was told to only use Rectified turpentine as an impurer form can negatively affect the liver. His remedy was one drop (via an eyedropper) per 10 lbs of body weight. Repeat in 7 days to kill any eggs. I'm having difficulty finding turpentine in the rectified form here in the DR. Basically they have white & yellow. It sounds like you feel comfortable with most types of turpentine, rectified or not. Could those in-the-know expand on this? Especially concerning the liver. Thanks!
Replied by Bill
San Fenando, Philippines
02/11/2014

Hi Jere...Rectified turpentine has sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide solution added to it whereas pure gum spirits turpentine does not -- it should be made only from the sap oil of the pine tree. Also, whether the turpentine now comes from the bark or whether it comes from the wood or sap is also a bit of a grey area nowadays. For the most part, turpentine is now made as a by-product from the wood and pulp industries. My own preference is to use the distilled pure gum spirit turps without any additives(non-rectified).

Any product that is labelled "pure gum turpentine" should just contain the distilled oil from the tree bark or wood with no further additives. If you want pure gum turps that is collected only from the bark sap and that is organic -- then here is a good source:

http://www.diamondgforestproducts.com/Products.htm

Turpentine contains beneficial iso-pinenes, which act to help cleanse the intestines and purify the blood. Because of its blood purification capabilities. (I've been regularly taking turpentine, at one teaspoon dose, for over a year now. I don't take turps every day because my own current use of turpentine is as a preventative. Generally I take turpentine once or twice a week with castor oil and molasses (or honey).

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
02/13/2014

After seeing Bill's recommendation of this specific turpentine product, I went ahead and ordered it. I have not yet used turpentine medicinally, but want to be ready to try it.

So, I got my turpentine in the mail and I am so excited. It smells wonderful and natural and not like a chemical to clean a paintbrush!

My son, who is into forestry, was very impressed with how it smells, too.

Thanks, Bill!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Tina
Princeton New Jersey
02/14/2014

Hi Mama to Many, did you order the turpentine from Diamond G Forest company? I did too and I am very happy to know that you like the product. I have using it now for almost 2 weeks and am up to more than half a teaspoon per day, using Bill's suggestion - with coconut oil and raw honey. Haven't seen any major reactions yet, except a feeling of drowsiness on two occasions and a couple of days of all-over achiness. But that could have been due to shoveling all this snow too! There is however, a definite feeling of enhanced mental clarity and a lessening of mental fatigue. Do keep posting your reactions too, thanks!
Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee, Usa
02/14/2014

Dear Tina,

I did order mine from Diamond G Forest Company. Thanks for sharing what you are doing with it and how it is affecting you! I will post results when I have some. One thing I want to try is using it to worm my cats. I know at least one of them has a tapeworm. Just haven't figured out dosage for cats...so if anyone has an idea, let me know!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Deecee
Philippines
06/15/2014

Hi Bill, thanks a lot for this information. I'm so glad I stumbled over this site. Are there available pure gum spirits of turpentine in the Philippines, or should I order them through US-based online shops? Thanks!

Posted by Tina (Princeton, New Jersey) on 01/27/2014

Hi Bill,

I had had a question regarding turpentine. After reading your posts and of many others regarding the health benefits of turpentine, I decided to add it to my daily routine. I bought gum spirits of turpentine made from slash pine trees. It is manufactured here in the US, from a company called Diamond G Forest Products, Georgia. On the bottle it says "solvent for removing paints and waxes. DANGER: Harmful or fatal if swallowed; irritant to skin and eyes."

Is this a statutory type of warning? Or did I get the wrong kind of turpentine? If so, I will return it. But I would be grateful if you could guide me to a brand that is safe to take internally and one which is available easily in the US. Thank you for taking the time to respond!

Replied by Prioris
Fl, Usa
01/27/2014

This would be the ideal product from them: 16oz 100% Pure Gum Spirits of Turpentine

Yes, it is just a required statutory warning.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/27/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Tina... I know Diamond V Georgia Turpentine and it is a very good organic product. Most turpentine products are the rectified form -- usually made from the distillation of stumps and wood from pine trees. But Diamond V is made in the older proper way -- by collecting the sap from pine trees and distilling this bark sap into pure gum turpentine.

When you begin supplementing with turpentine start either with drop dosages or just start with a 1/4 teaspoon and increase the dose slowly, over a week or more(with breaks), to 1 teaspoon.

The way I supplement turpentine, I take one teaspoon of either raw honey or molasses(your own preference) to coat the tongue and mouth. Then I take 1 one teaspoon of castor oil(or you can use VCO as an alternative if you like) and mix this all up in my mouth. Finally I add the turpentine dosage and mix it all up in the mouth and then chase this down with a glass of water.

Unfortunately, turpentine is not soluble or miscible in water -- which is why you need to take it with an oil of some sort. Other methods of taking turpentine: With sugar or with milk. If you have candida then take the dose before a meal. This ensures that the turps will be carried into the intestines to do its good work against candida there.

I take the turpentine dose only twice a week for preventative reasons. But if you have a problem like candida then you should slowly work up to one teaspoon every day if you can. You will, most likely, get significant die-of or Herx reactions. You are allowed to stop this protocol and have as many breaks as you like in order to make the healing crisis less severe. This is up to you.

Because turpentine is such a rapid pathogen and parasite killer, I take it twice a week as a general preventative. And if you do have a problem in your intestines then supplementing turpentine like this will give a healing reaction(die-off) that you will definitely notice. So I am also using this protocol not only as a preventative, but also as a gauge or indicator if anything is wrong with my intestines. As most know, my own way is to protect the liver, kidney, thyroid and intestines in my own protocols for health.

But there are even more ways of taking turpentine, depending on what outcomes you want. In the above, I have already described how to best take the turpentine to get rid of problems in the intestines against candida, bacteria, parasites etc. But turps is also a blood purifier -- in the blood, it kills many forms of pathogens, expels xenobiotics and also acts as a mild diuretic. That's what I mean by "purifying the blood". So how do we take turps to get rid of blood born diseases to help purify the blood?

The best method obviously involves getting the turps into the blood as fast as possible. Unfortunately, other than taking just the turpentine on an empty stomach outside mealtimes there are not many ways of doing this. But I am considering one way. I've also read that turps can be taken with wine(turps is also soluble in alcohol), so my own idea is to supplement the turps using a small amount of distilled alcohol with water. This would ensure very rapid absorption of the turps directly into the blood from the stomach. I haven't tried this yet(and I don't advise it), but will report back later on how this goes.

Replied by Timh
Ky, Usa
01/28/2014

Maybe this is why Gin made from conifer is such a common drink among those living in the wilderness; it proly has many of the healing qualities as Turpentine. These may mix well for the body, but the mind will be no better off. Maybe once or twice per wk would be beneficial.

Speaking of methods of administration, Bill; what about Liposomal Turpentine w/ or without sonication? This would definitely promise to deliver the T systemically as opposed to mostly the gut. Am definately willing to give this a try.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/28/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Timh...Liposomal turpentine certainly sounds interesting, but creating a liposomal nano-capsule relies on using lecithin oil to completely surround a droplet of the turpentine. Unfortunately, turpentine is very soluble in such oils so I don't think it would allow the oil to surround and encapsulate it -- but instead would just dissolve in it, thus preventing true liposomal delivery. That's only my opinion, mind you, so might be worth a try.

I also looked into DMSO as possible mechanism for turps delivery into the blood quickly in order to avoid the intestinal route but, unfortunately again, I found out that turpentine was completely insoluble in DMSO. So there are some drawbacks with turpentine, mainly due to its lipophillic nature.

I'm also trying an experiment right now with the turps. I mentioned in another post that I was going to try taking a small amount of alcohol distillate and turpentine mixed with water for faster direct absorption from the stomach into the blood -- for blood born diseases. I've had an annoying head cold and tickle in the throat for the last couple of days, so I thought I would try turps against this virus. I found an old bottle of whisky so I used that. Two teaspoons of jock whisky mixed with one teaspoon turpentine was the dose, then I added a third of a glass of water and drank it down (without ice...lol). Didn't taste that bad, to tell the truth.

That was over 2 hours ago. And yes, there were a few rumbles in the jungle from way down below, as well as some minor bloating effects but nothing too awkward, radical or painful. No nausea or anything like that. I have to admit that right now my head is not so fuzzy, blocked nose is gone, my vision is a lot clearer with apparently less coughing. It's evening now and early days yet, so will be able to judge the result more honestly tomorrow or in the next few days I think.

Replied by Tina
Princeton, New Jersey
01/28/2014

Hi Bill,

Thank you so much for your detailed reply. Earth Clinic and it's readers are truly fortunate to be able to benefit from your knowledge.

i am going to start taking the turpentine, beginning with one-fourth tsp, twice a week using raw honey/coconut oil method you recommend. My aim is to use it as a parasitic cleanse. Will keep you posted on my progress!

I have been taking H2O2 first thing every morning since last summer. I am now on the maintenance dose of three drops. It's been very helpful and I am reluctant to stop it. My energy level has never been better and even with the terrible winter we've been having in the North East, my immune system remains strong. Could I continue taking it every morning even on the days that I take the turpentine? Or would that be too much? Thanks again for your help.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/28/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Tina...Turpentine is mainly an anti-oxidant therapy but Hydrogen Peroxide is a pro-oxidant therapy. So if you take them at the same time they will react with each other to cancel out and neutralize each other's beneficial effects.

Luckily, hydrogen peroxide only lasts for about an hour in the body before it is used up. So just make sure that you take the turpentine dose at least an hour or two after you have taken the hydrogen peroxide.

It's not so bad for the turpentine because the reduced form(anti-oxidant) and the oxidized form of turpentine both have beneficial properties for the body. See this link. However, whenever HP is neutralized by an anti-oxidant it is usually just converted to oxygen and water and all its pathogen-killing and detox properties are lost as a consequence.

Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/28/2014

Hello again Bill. That's some very interesting reading about your latest turpentine experiment Bill. What could be used as a replacement for alcohol? I just don't drink alcohol of any kind. What else could I use? I assume rubbing alcohol wouldn't be a plausible replacement? What about a homeopathic remedy that has a small % of alcohol? Trying to think of something I could use that I have on hand.

I have candida as you know so by your recommendations I should take it just before meals. However, I know that I have pathogens and other disease causing organisms in the bloodstream. I have been alternating taking the turpentine before meals and on an empty stomach to try and get the maximum benefit from it. Thanks for your help & God Bless!

Replied by Tina
Princeton, New Jersey
01/29/2014

Hi Bill,

Thank you, this is very helpful. I will start taking turpentine two hours after the hydrogen peroxide. All the best. Anod thanks again!

Replied by June
Fl
02/03/2014

Hello Bill, You mentioned above that it is best to take turpentine before a meal, I am assuming on an empty stomach, for intestinal issues such as candida. I have tried it on an empty stomach, about 5 drops on a sugar cube. Within a couple of minutes I've experienced a feeling of dizziness. Have you or anyone ever had this reaction or a similar one? The 2nd time I tried it with food and did not get that reaction.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
02/04/2014

1064 Posts
Hi June...The symptoms of dizziness or drowsiness or wooziness are well known when you take turpentine. Turpentine kills all manner of pathogens in the blood and intestines very quickly, including candida. When a large amount of candida is suddenly destroyed by turpentine, then all the poisons from inside the candida(and from other killed pathogens) will suddenly be released into the body. The result is a Herx or die off reaction because of these poisons in the blood which tend to affect the mind. This is what is termed a healing crisis(caused, not by the turpentine, but from the release of poisonous toxins from the killed candida).

From my own recent experience while being involved with a private group trying to cure their young children of autism using turpentine, these die-off or Herx symptoms are commonplace -- wooziness, drowziness, dizziness. When this happens as a reaction, the parents usually always allow at least one day off from the turpentine protocol as a break for the child involved.

I've also been taking turpentine regularly as a preventative and immune booster for over a year now and I can report that I have had no side-effects from taking this dosage -- no dizziness or wooziness. I take it about twice a week -- one teaspoonful with castor oil and molasses (or honey) usually at mealtime. And since I get no die-ff or Herx reaction, this therefore tells me that my intestines and blood are reasonably healthy and fit. If I suddenly did have a side-effect reaction like dizziness after taking turpentine, then I would immediately and reasonably assume that I might be infected with candida, parasites or other pathogens.

Posted by Ruth (Ct.) on 01/04/2014

Hello Bill,

Been reading everything you post. You are indeed an asset to this site. I have been reading about your taking turpentine. I just purchased a small can of turpentine. On the side it says "Contains Turpentine and PETROLEUM DISTILLATE."

There's a man from Canada that mixes it with honey...One teaspoon with 4 tablespoons of honey and takes a teaspoon of it...He's on you tube...Is this the kind of Turpentine to use for therapy and how would you suggest? The things I've been reading about the remedies on many sites says it cures many things and quickly...I have hepatitis c and peripheral neuropathy...Thank you and keep up the good work...

Replied by Bill
San Fernado, Philippines
01/05/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Ruth...Yes I've seen the video on youtube with Tony Pantalleresco using Turpentine. He made a 4:1 mix with honey and turps respectively which is a quarter the dose that I recommend for adults. In the video he also takes two spoonfuls of this mix at different times. Also I think that the can of turpentine he held up was Klean Strip Green -- Pure Gum Spirit Turpentine (the green can) which is 100% gum spirits turps and can be used. I tend to avoid the kerosene brands because its so confusing and seems to vary from country to country -- Kerosene can also be called paraffin, mineral oil, white spirit etc and therefore can be quite confusing for people. So I keep it simple -- use only pure gum spirits turpentine with no additives. Walter Last also recommends an Aussie brand for the protocol called Digger's Low Odour Kerosene which is quite useful if you live in Australia.

My own way is to put one teaspoon of honey or molasses in my mouth, then put the turpentine dose (usually one teaspoon for me) in my mouth next. Then I hold it in my mouth and mix it with my saliva and then I swallow this mix and just chase it down with some water.

If you've never taken turpentine like this before, then you should start with just a 1/4 tspn of turps, with increasing drop dosages over about a week until you are taking one teaspoon. If at any time while taking this protocol you have a Herx or die off reaction or if you feel woozy, drowsy or lethargic -- then take a day off the next day and resume, at a lesser dose, thereafter.

Walter Last also seems to prefer taking the turps or kerosene with a teaspoon of castor oil. The castor oil is a useful idea because it also kills candida and beneficially tends to gently accelerate excretion -- thus removing toxins more quickly from the body. Coconut oil or olive oil can also be taken as the carrier with the turps remedy as well.

Since the turpentine that you have also contains petroleum distillate and is not pure gum spirits turpentine from a pine tree, I'm afraid that I cannot recommend it for supplementing internally.

Replied by Ray
Ohio, Usa
10/05/2014

To Ruth , I have done several things the " guy from Canada " says to do , I have been in the past in bad shape, with Tony's help I'm a new man.

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Posted by Pat (New York, US) on 10/15/2014

Hi Bill,

I am getting ready to try turpentine for the first time! I have a few questions.

Does biofilm only exist in the intestines or can it exist throughout the body? In other words, if getting rid of biofilm is the main goal, then is it better to make sure the turp gets into the intestines (with castor oil like you have mentioned elsewhere) instead of the bloodstream?

Replied by Emma
Wa, Usa
01/07/2015

Hi Pat,

Your post is a few months old, but since Bill did not reply, I thought I might chime in. Or perhaps you already got the answer you needed, but if not, here goes.

Biofilm can reside anywhere in the body where a group of pathogens will happily reside in. These pathogens will colonize within these biofilm "communities" to form a synergistic relationship through quorom sensing. In this way, these smartpants can evade the immune system or any antimicrobial agent you might throw it's way.

I am hoping that turpentine can in reality degrade biofilms, because this seems to be the key to eradicating these pathogens. Break down the house and the little guys are exposed to your killing agent. I know this because I have chronic lyme.

Good luck in your healing journey and happy 2015!

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/07/2015

1064 Posts
If you have a low or non-functioning immune system then the best thing you can take is colostrum (first milk to calf after birth). Both lyme and candida involve the participation of a wide variety of pathogen species together with a low performing immune system and this is what makes these diseases so difficult to cure.

Colostrum contains antibodies that are passed to the calf. At birth, the calf has no immune system and no digestive system just like human babies. So the antibodies in cow mother's milk are passed directly into the calf -- in other words the mother cow's immunity is passed directly into the calf like immune system blueprints so that it can manufacture its own antibodies. And if the calf does not receive this colostrum within 24 hours it will die.

The same thing happens in humans when you take high grade or natural liquid bovine colostrum. This colostrum will give you protection and immunity against all common diseases that are in our environment such as E. Coli, Shigella, Giardia, C Diff, Candida, H pylori, Staph, Strep, Borrelia etc. Colostrum also contains growth factors that help to heal the intestines, prevent inflammation and pain and also contains substances that help to reduce the permeability of the gut -- thus also curing food allergies including wheat and milk allergies. The colostrum essentially acts to reset, re-train and strengthen the human immune system.

I have recently read a personal testimonial by a guy who had serious candida, gut and allergy issues for many years. He was given two gallons of fresh colostrum for free straight from the mother cow and he drank it all over a short period of time. He completely cured all his problems in just 2 weeks with candida and allergies defeated and gone.

Then there's the story of Immune Milk and Herb Saunders(now deceased) who was a dairy farmer in the US. His customers who came to see him were very sick people who had many and various infectious or autoimmune diseases. Saunders would take a small sample of their blood and inject it into the udders of an expectant mother cow. Whatever diseases these people had -- the cows immune system would manufacture antibodies against it. Then a month later, after the mother cow dropped her calf, farmer Saunders would give this colostrum from the cow to his customer who would be rapidly cured of his or her immune or infectious disease. Saunders was taken to court by the FDA for practicing without a licence but got a hung jury both times. So the FDA doesn't always win...

See this link:

The Universal Oral Vaccine: Immune Milk

So if you know a friendly local organic dairy farmer who does not feed his cows steroids, antibiotics or unnatural feeds, then just negotiate a price for some fresh liquid colostrum. This is by far the best natural form to take.

But if you can't get fresh colostrum from the mother cow then you should buy the powder form. But not just any old cheap colostrum powder -- you must make sure that whatever powdered colostrum you buy has not been processed with chemicals or with excessive heat which would render the colostrum useless. Here is a product that meets these high standards. They also test the efficacy and content both before and after manufacture of their colostrum. This is the liposomal form of colostrum which is highly concentrated and it's not so cheap but it's easy to take and should work reasonably well just like the natural form from the mother cow:

Colostrum Spray

So if you take the turpentine protocol together with colostrum -- the turpentine itself will immediately act to kill all manner of pathogens and remove biofilm(but does not strengthen the immune system directly) while the colostrum will act to enhance and retrain your own immune system to defeat and dispose of all the many common pathogens involved in both Lyme disease and Candida. In other words colostrum should eventually help to give you immunity against many or all the pathogens involved in both candida issues and Lyme Disease.

References:

Colostrum and the Human Immune System

Replied by Baldev
Maharashtra, India
01/08/2015

Hi Bill, Very good information. Quantity like two gallons may not be possible to procure, but at the same time reasonable quantity can be got from people who keep the cows in India for their daily needs of milk.

I have seen in my younger days that we used to get that milk (Colostrum) and while heating it, it used to get split. Then it used to be strained and that cheese type of thing was eaten after mixing it with honey or raw sugar. I don't know whether that was a right procedure to take it, so my question is if one gets it how to take it, should we heat/warm or take it in raw form. Many thanks

Baldev

Replied by Ed2010
Canada
01/08/2015

Hi Bill,

What is your opinion about taking Human Colustrum (Mother's Milk). In india we have a folk practice of using mothers milk for variety of ailments. In fact it is easy to get in rural parts of India. May be a 1 tsp a day from one mother.

Alternatively, you can get bovine colustrum easily in India, even in Litres.

Good Health

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/09/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Baldev...I think, without question, that fresh colostrum taken either straight from the human mother or cow is the best form of colostrum to take. You have to be very careful with buying powdered colostrum or you might be taking a weak or below par product. If the colostrum has been excessively heated or chemically processed in any way then its efficacy will be questionable.

For those people who cannot get the colostrum straight from the cow, I usually recommend Sovereign Labs brand(organic). This brand is not treated chemically or heated excessively and, what's more, they check each batch of colostrum for efficacy and proper composition both before and after the conversion to the powder form. What's more, the SL brand uniquely uses the liposomal form of colostum delivery so the colostrum keeps longer(less oxidation) and the colostrum will not be affected by stomach acid or be digested when supplemented in the liposomal form but, instead, will be quickly absorbed into the blood. I decided on this brand after researching many others like Surthrival, Nutricology etc. What also impressed me was the CEO of SL who has some revealing and personal stories to tell about colostrum in this video:

The Colostrum Story

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/09/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Ed2010...I would fully support taking colostrum from a human mother. But this is not about just drinking mother's milk -- this about supplementing or drinking colostrum which is the very first milk that the baby drinks from the mother's breast after it is born. This is how the mother is able to transfer all her disease immunity to her child. And from that point on the feed from the mother's breast quickly reverts just to ordinary mother's milk(no antibodies).

So I'm not really talking about mothers milk. Not the same as colostrum.

And if you can buy the bovine colostrum then please make sure that it was collected on the same day as the calf was born. This will ensure high potency and efficacy of the colostrum(containing huge amounts of antibodies) against many common human infectious and autoimmune diseases that modern medicine still cannot cure.

Replied by Timh
KY
01/09/2015

I have been taking different brands of Colostrum on-and-off over-the-yrs but nothing worth noting; which is no surprise considering product quality and my hyper heavy metal and parasite loads, as well as twice compromised immunity.

In an attempt to maximize the C effect, I also take Glutamine and Probiotics, which should surely help. Also, being desperate and creative, tried LET Colostrum also w/ no improvement to note.

Replied by Bill
San Fernandob
01/09/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Timh...You point is certainly well made and true about colostrum because you're living it. So a suggestion.

I completely agree with you that if your immune system is already heavily compromised for other specific reasons than lack of nutrients(for example) then colostrum would not work for you. To use a metaphor -- even if you put high octane gasoline in a car with no engine it still isn't going to move.

You do seem to have so many problems which all seem to point to a stubbornly compromised and low performing immune system. Your own knowledge of nutrients and herbs is pretty vast because you have rightly tried to use all these nutrients to cure your own problems.

But what if the cause of your low performing immune system were due to gene aberrations caused by a badly performing Methylation Cycle(MC) in your body? If true then this makes it a whole diffferent ball game.

Gene aberrations in the MC are now commonplace and they can be extremely serious(think ASD problems) -- they can heavily affect your body cell performance and tissue structure. I've also read that aberrant MTFR and many other aberrant genes besides can cause brain cells, blood cells and immune system cells to perform at only 30% of their capacity or strength. And you can take as many nutrients and drugs as you like but you wont fix it until you find the right gene triggers to cure the aberrant gene problems.

Furthermore, your body appears to be always very high in heavy metals no matter what antioxidant or detoxer or support nutrient you take. This might also be a another pointer to methylation issues. The transulfuraton cycle(also part of the MC), which produces taurine and glutathione -- the master anti-oxidant and heavy metal detoxer for your body, might be dead in the water. This is well known to occur in methylation issues. What are your homocysteine and glutathione levels like?

These might be some valid reasons why your own progress back to health has been so slow and drawn out due to a still compromised MC which has acted, due to aberrant gene formation, to continuously lower and hold down your own immune system's performance. And its not just about MTFR gene aberrations -- there are many more genes that can go rogue in the MC.

And these might also be some valid reasons why colostrum hasn't worked so well for you.

Replied by Ed2010
Canada
01/09/2015

Hi Bill,

As a general dosage, what would you suggest for human colustrum. May be 20ml / day.

We have a recipe for Bovine Colustrum.

Add 400ml of bovine colustrum in a milk pot, add cardomom and half cup sugar. Boil it for sometime, this turns the milk like a crated cheese. Once the milk becomes a solid like crated chase, we serve it. This is a good medicine for hip joints and bones.

of course, this is not as therapeutic as raw bovine colustrum.

Also, what would you recommend as dosage of raw bovine colustrum daily.

Good Health

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/09/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Ed2010...Proper fresh, natural colostrum is not white but yellow and looks like this. I also know they use it for food in India in dishes like posu and as a form of healthy cheese.

You should be able to drink as much colostrum as you like because it's a food after all. But if you have serious disease or autoimune problems(with pathogens in high numbers in your body), then it is perhaps advisable to start with one tablespoon and work up slowly to a larger dosage because of the Herx or die-off effect.

Colostrum is also very high in support minerals and vitamins -- including glutathione. See this link. That's why it's also possible that you may well get detox symptoms or reactions when you start taking colostrum -- because taking colostrum and all that extra glutathione raises the body's detox capabilities back to healthy and efficient levels again.


Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/09/2015

1064 Posts
For those interested in its many benefits, some more general research on natural colostrum:

Colostrum Research

Replied by Ed2010
Canada
01/09/2015

Hi Bill

Which is good for GI, spray or capsules?

Good Health

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
01/09/2015

Hi Bill,

I wondered if you could explain when it says the lactoferrin in colostrum binds and transports iron to cells in the body, if this would be beneficial or detrimental to people who have high serum iron that is supposedly hard on organs?

Thank you for all the information you freely give to everyone on Earth Clinic.

P.S. I assume they leave some of the colostrum for the baby calf, too?

Replied by Timh
KY
01/10/2015

Thanx for your reply Bill. Your diagnosis seems spot on, the issue is successful treatment. For elimination I am doing Foot Spas, Foot Detox Patches, Oil Pulling, oral Charcoal or Bentonite.

To improve P-450 detox, which would include Methylation as well as the other category's like Glucuronidation etc., I take either Dill or Caraway herb w/ D-Limonene once or twice daily, and Sulforaphane (Broccoli Sprout Extract, DIM, and I3C) occasionally. I listen to Love 528 Solfeggio Harmonics occasionally to help repair DNA. NAC, Selenium and Melatonin to improve GTH.

Have made significant immune improvements since beginning LDN on Dec 13th, 2014 and have yet to make a detailed post here on E.C.

Along w/ the heavy metal manganese I have tape worm cyst & stages (killed the adult in my intestines last July which set in motion an entirely new stage of detox/elimination), but just as Hulda Clark noted they form a survival coalition and the biofilms join in as the ultimate protector. Nattozimes and Turpentine blast the biofilms as you know. Ozone seems to be the only agent to penetrate the cyst, and after only one Colloidal Silver/Ozone 3oz drink (mid-December), had significant juvenile and entire host of pathogens released into blood & liver which caused a crisis, including kidney infection, taking exact remedies and 24hrs to recover.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/10/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Rsw...Lactoferrin is highly beneficial to the body. It helps to transport and distribute iron in the body -- makes it much more efficient -- while at the same time starving pathogens of much-needed iron because of the way lactoferrin binds to iron. It is highly anti-pathogenic because it prevents attachment of pathogens(especially viruses) to the the host cells thus preventing them from reproducing and spreading. it also regulates and modulates the immune system, strengthens the performance of neutrophils and eosinophils in all the mucus glands, inhibits pathogen growth, speeds up the healing of wounds -- too many to mention. For more thorough explanations and descriptions please see these links.

Colostrum and Lactoferrin

Colostrum Research

And it usually always the case that companies who use colstrum from mother cows always let the calf have enough colostrum. If they did not do this then the calf would die within 24 hours of its birth.

Replied by Mary
Saskachewan
01/10/2015

Bill, would lactoferrin help with extreme anemia accompanied by low adrenal, thyroid and testosterone (yes I am a woman but do not have enough at all)?

I also have a skin problem that I think is mites. I do the whole thing and keep them at bay but have not cured myself. Thought maybe the reason I still have them is my overall system is weak. Would I be able to have some of your wonderful suggestions?

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
01/12/2015

Thank you, Bill for the detailed links and your explanation. I have looked at this product for a couple of years now, but have always hesitated because I didn't understand it's potential. I was looking at another brand, too, so I thank you for posting the one you feel has been processed to retain the maximum benefits. I had seen a documentary on the pregnant mare drug for menapausal women many years ago, and determined never to buy that product because of the way the mares were treated, so I didn't want to do the same to the cows. But it seems all is well and we are using what can be spared by the calves. You are so patient and generous in sharing your understanding of these nontraditional treatments and your advice is very much appreciated.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/13/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Ed2010...You should perhaps start by using just the Sovereign Lab liposomal colostrum powder. Powder is better than capsules which always costs more because of the extra processing needed to make the capsules. Powder usually lasts longer and goes farther for the money.

If you prefer you can use the Colostrum-IC-Concentrate spray which contains high amounts of concentrated immune factors(antibodies, lactoferrin etc) which is 48 times higher in strength than the capsules or powder.

If you also have food allergies such as milk or wheat allergies then take the IRM Colostrum spray which will specifically help to cure any food allergy problems and will also help to heal the intestines. This is because it is high in Proline-Rich Polypeptides and lactoferrin.

Their Viralox spray is for viral infections. It uses only the elements of colostrum that kills viruses. Useful for colds and flu and other viral problems including HSV, HPV, Epstein Barr etc. This spray up-regulates the immune system against all viruses creating a hostile viral environment and also prevents all forms of viruses from reproducing by inhibiting them from attaching to host cells.

But the best all-round protection is probably the colostrum powder form and it would depend on what else was wrong with you as to whether you would need to take the other specific spray forms. Your choice.

Replied by Timh
KY
01/26/2015

Bill: Unfortunately I don't know my homocysteine or glutathione levels as I have no medical support in my area. Maybe I can have a long-distance Dr (online) order an "Elisa" test at local lab?? Any suggestions? I think I can purchase these test alone, if I can muster enough $.

Anyway, in response to your heads-up on homocysteine, I have B-6 & P5P in the mail as my heart & cardio system have been thru hell in the last 4 yrs; fortunately I have avoided catastrophic event. I do take 500mg Methionine daily for fatty liver w/ 1000 mcg B-12/500mcg Folic Acid, and 125mg DMG.

I may need to reiterate the major problem of pulmonary fibrosis (in comparison to your gene theory), which is known to cause Glutathione deficiency and autoimmunity. Recent LDN is proof of correcting, in part, this immune dysfunction. I have no problems of insufficient volume or shortness of breath, but do have problems w/ gaseous exchange, detox, and acidosis. Dr. Shallenberger measures lung function to access energy production in the body. I am currently getting good results (much better now since taking LDN) in energy production by taking Raw Lung Glandular in conjunction w/ Chinese herbal combination for lung health. So it seems an immune-detox-energy crisis which I suffer, but w/ major treatment intervention am still here to talk about it.

About 1 yr ago I nebulized some Reduced Glutathione, along w/ other nutrients for lungs, and for a brief few hrs experienced a remarkable relief of bad symptoms and felt like my old self again prior to my injuries. Am looking forward to trying this remedy again and isolating exactly any specific or combination nutrients. Also, I have sufficient circumstantial evidence of mycoplasma pneumonia, so this infection must be playing a major role in preventing any healing in the lungs and further agonizes the fibrosis instead. Despite recent immune improvements w/ LDN the mycoplasma and bone/joint infection continues although not as severe; but am now resolved to take at least one 6 drop dose MMS daily so as to get an upper hand and eventually (w/ the help of Ozonated Colloidal Silver) totally kill these pathogens.

The heavy metal elimination seems to be going well as the severity is slowly reduced. Hopefully in a few months I will have made substantial progress in this area.

Replied by Myway
Delaware
01/26/2015

Tim, have you gone online to requestatest.com to have any personal labs drawn? I have used them before and go to local Labcorps to have my blood drawn. They handled the paperwork. I used them to have my magnesium RBC's checked. It was a very easy process. My results came to my email. Maybe this will help.

MyWay,

:D

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/27/2015

1064 Posts
Hi Timh...Not knowing your homocysteine or glutathione levels might indeed be a problem. But I think you have gone a long way to remedying that anyway, if it is a problem, by taking the B6 & P5P, DMG, folic acid etc. Some more advice on this below.

The only problem for you is really how to determine whether your methylation condition is under- or over-methylated. I think I can help here too since doctor's methylation panels can cost an arm and a leg and then some.

Under-methylation is typically characterized by high or excessive histamine levels in the body. This is easily enough recognized or spotted especially if you are suffering constant or extreme pain due to inflammation in your tissues, joints or organs. Under-methylation can also help contribute towards food allergies and high gut permeability(leaky gut) as well.

Over-methylation(OM) symptoms typically involve anxiety problems, insomnia and adrenal insufficiency caused by a methylation blockade or aberrant gene problem in this area. Typically, someone suffering from over-methylation issues will have low histamine levels and will suffer more from mental problems -- such as Bi-polar or OCD disorders. Typically, OM problems can also involve chemical sensitivity issues but not food allergy problems.

Thus armed with the above symptom guidelines, you should be able to make up your own mind as to whether you consider your condition to be a typically under- or over-methylated condition. I've tried to keep it very simple, but much more information and detail here:

Methylation and MTHFR Defects (Dr Ben Lynch)

MTHFR.NET(Ben Lynch's website)

There is also a simple way to do a partial check on your body's nutrient status by getting a hair analysis -- quite cheap. This will not tell you your homocysteine levels but it should tell you your vitamin and mineral levels. For instance, if you are heavily lacking in Vitamin B6 then there will be little glutathione production happening in your body which means that your body has no master chelator and that you will be steadily be accumulating dangerous heavy metals in your body. Your heavy metal status will also show up on your hair analysis to confirm this.

High homocysteine levels can also be prevented by taking TMG(not DMG), B6 and Methylcobolamine(B12). It's also much better to take the L-MTHF forms of folate than taking the folic acid form(synthetic form). High homocysteine levels can also cause heart problems and hardening of the arteries.

Your beneficial experience one year ago nebulizing reduced glutathione would also seem to at least confirm your body's great need for glutathione. This would also suggest that your methylation cycle is out of balance and blocked in some way, with other problems such as high homocysteine and aberrant gene problems also being a distinct possibility. Unfortunately, if you do have aberrant gene problems then there is simply no other option but to confirm which gene are aberrant by doing the relevant aberrant gene DNA tests from your doctor.

LDN is a very good protocol for many autoimmune disorders because it seems to raise up, retrain and strengthen the immune system. The colloidal silver and MMS should also be effective against mycoplasma. The only difficulty with taking these as oral nutrients is to ask "How much of these nutrients are being used up or neutralized in the intestines and how much is actually successfully reaching the problem sites in the body?".

So it might be better to also use MMS or Colloidal Silver topically combined with DMSO. I've read that when Vitamin C is taken orally then only about 15% - 20% ever gets absorbed from the intestines into the blood. If you apply this thinking to CS and MMS then there might be a problem. I have also read that when DMSO carries any nutrient from the skin into the blood, it usually achieves 80% absorption of that nutrient into the blood. So if you combine DMSO + CS or combine DMSO + MMS and put it on the skin directly over the problem area itself then this should perhaps act in a stronger way(due to higher local dosage) than the oral form to get rid of the mycoplasma and associated pathogens causing problems there. In this way higher dosages of CS or MMS nutrients may be carried to these sites using DMSO, which should also have no trouble carrying these nutrient across any blood/bone barrier to attack the mycoplasma in the bone area. That's why I think using the DMSO route might be more efficient and effective for you than just using the oral route.

If you have mycoplasma in your lungs then I would simply try using Bill Munroe's HP Inhalation Method. And if it were me -- I would use a pharmacy-bought 0.5% Hydrogen Peroxide solution that contains stabilizers to first see if it actually helped against the mycoplasma. Bill Munroe used the ordinary stabilized form of HP for over 20 years without problems. And if this cheap form of HP definitely helped to get rid of the lung mycoplasma, then perhaps you could purchase the FG 35% HP at a later time.

Replied by Timh
KY
01/27/2015

Thank You Mw I will check them out.

Cancer   0  0   

Posted by Anonymous (Anon) on 01/28/2015

I just thought I would write to you about this. It's a cancer cure using Kerosene. This has been around for decades and was publicised by a German woman named Paula Ganner who was cured of matastases and colon paralysis using Kerosene. She passed on her knowledge to many others and received 20,000 letters of thanks from people that it worked on. There is an article about it in Nexus Magazine April-May 2012 issue. I found it when browsing through some old magazines. I thought it would be worth mentioning.

Of course soon after the article in a German magazine was published about the 20,000 cures, the magazine editor was fired and the entry for purified petrol/kerosene as a cleaning remedy for wounds etc was removed from the German pharmacopoeia. It was then declared a dangerous poison and has remained so everywhere.

There are follow up articles on the internet regarding this. In the same magazine mentioned above was a very interesting article on Iodine (or Lugol's solution) which cures many things (e.g. diabetes) as well but is now much harder to find also.

I am not sure that kerosene and turpentine are quite the same thing so people should investigate both. The article I read was written by Walter Last who is a retired biochemist, research chemist, nutritionist and natural therapist based in Australia. The use of petroleum-derived products was most widespread in poorer countries like Russia, Eastern Europe and Africa. Apparently even the Rockefellers supposedly started their fortune by selling kerosene as a cancer cure before they found that chemotherapy was much more lucrative. The dosage of course is quite low, a teaspoon a day or something like that.

People will need to investigate this and read the article in full as the one in the magazine was an edited extract only -- www.health-science-spirit.com and go to kerosene page. Dr Last believes (and he is probably right) that most diseases that are prevalent today only came after the introduction of antibiotics after World War II. Another thing too, the history of petroleum derived products as a cure goes back to ancient Babylon and Persia. Dr Last has also written a series of books on healing yourself.

Anyone who tries to mention any of these cures is vilified. Another example, the French Forensic Scientist who invented organic silica -- something that prevents orthopaedic surgery and rebuilds/heals bone - he was persecuted for years and jailed until he had to flee the country. So where is his invention now?

Candida   2  0   

Posted by Jay (Canada) on 11/22/2014

It has been a week since I started the turpentine cure to get rid of candida. My shoulders and neck are stiff and sore now.

I've read this is because of my liver working overtime trying to get rid of all the nasties. I don't want to stop the turp treatment.

Should I do a liver detox? Or is there a supplement I can take to help with the shoulder/neck pain or the liver?

Any suggestions would be nice. Thanks in advance

Replied by Timh
KY
11/23/2014

Bentonite Clay taken orally prior to meals will absorb the nasties.

Posted by Gigi (Edmonton, Alberta, Canada) on 10/12/2014

After reading all the stuff on Turps, I wanted to try it out as I have many of the symtoms of candida. I got a bottle from a friend, took it home but was very reluctant to start. I took 1/4 tsp mixed with 1 tsp of castor oil. I felt a slight headache but nothing to stop me from my daily chores, it went away later in the day. I took 2 cascara segrada pills to ensure I passed it out, was not sure of this stuff!

I am happy to say, I had a lot of diarreah, the next day my SINUSITIS which had been a major problem for as long as I know myself was gone, I was not getting up to blow my nose all the time, it was GREAT, I also had so much energy, OMG, I started sending emails to all my friends I was elated. I have not taken another dosage I am still scared as they say it can damage your liver & kidneys. The person I gave it to has really red eyes so I am not sure, I wish I knew more about this but the energy increase is sure worth it.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD POST MORE ABOUT THEIR REACTION. Please...please, we only talk about what we take and why we ara taking it, it sure would be NICE if we talked about the after effects, GOOd or BAD...please...this is a wonderful site, especially in today's society where you can't get nothing but doctors and their prescription pads!

Replied by Cindy
Usa
10/12/2014

Hi, I second the thoughts on turpentine use. If anyone can share their helpful experiences and even the kind they used. Thanks.
Replied by Deb
New York, US
11/04/2014

I just started taking the turpentine with honey two days ago. I mixed it a 1:4 ratio. My first dose was 1 teaspoon and then today I took 1/2 teaspoon. Today my throat and tongue feel irritated and I feel as though I am coming down with the bug. I do wish people would post their experiences and side effects. It would certainly help. I am not sure that I will continue this regimen after today.
Replied by Deb
New York, US
11/04/2014

I just started taking the turpentine with honey two days ago. I mixed it a 1:4 ratio. My first dose was 1 teaspoon and then today I took 1/2 teaspoon. Today my throat and tongue feel irritated and I feel as though I am coming down with the bug. I do wish people would post their experiences and side effects. It would certainly help. I am not sure that I will continue this regimen after today.

Posted by Caladesi (Florida) on 05/30/2014

[YEA]  Bill, I have been using the turpentine for only 1.5 weeks and it is great for the candida, I even saw white rope like fungus pass the day after my first turp dose. No herxing either. I am on a vegan high raw diet, but eat fruit (juciy not sweet fruits like bananas and dates) with some cooked low fat vegan for dinner. It's what I can sustain. My main concern now is helping my 75 year old mom onto the turp for her candida/allergies, etc. She is currently taking Atenolol 25mg which is a beta blocker for irregular heart beat. Even though she remembers turp sugar being around her house as a kid and her grand dad using it, she is terrified to swallow it, which I understand!! I was too and am still having a hard time getting past the gasoline like taste, but it does work better than anything I've ever tried, so I am on it 2x week for now. I want to see if I can work up to more but just need to take it slow as I have had CFS for 8 years and am sick and tired of being sick and tired. God bless you for your help!

Replied by Robyn
Melbourne
05/30/2014

Bill and Caladesi, you are lucky if you can take it. I reduced it to 1 drop but the pain is still far too great. I would just end this 21 yrs of severe suffering. Bill suggested I have paw paw with each meal. I have hcl and enzymes but isn't paw paw a bit sweet? if I'm trying to get rid of candida.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
05/31/2014

1064 Posts
Hi Caladesi...I am very happy for you that the turps protocol is working so well. And yes, turps was widely used internally in the old days.

Although both you and your mother are having candida issues, I would also ask you to consider two other problems that you both might have whose symptoms are very similar to candida symptoms -- especially symptoms like brain fog , lethargy, low energy, depression etc.

First, hypothyroid or low thyroid was also an issue for me when I had candida. See the many symptoms for hypothyroid here. Just taking the Iodine Protocol(with companion nutrients) resolved that one very fast for me. So perhaps it's advisable for both you and your mother to get a thyroid test. Do not use the TSH/T4 test which your doctor will probably recommend because it is very inaccurate. Ask him for the Free T3/Free T4 test instead, much more accurate. Also, if you or your mother are low thyroid, do not use the synthetic thyroid drugs that the doctor may recommend. Use the Iodine Protocol. I didn't bother with the thyroid test. I just took the Iodine protocol and I've been on it ever since.

Methylation problems are the other issue. If you are under- or over-methylated this can cause problems with your neurotransmitters(seratonin, dopamine, norepeniphrine and epeniphrine levels), immune and detox systems. This will have consequent and distinct ill-effects on your mood and your body's detox and immune systems.

Lack of methyl groups in the body(under methylation) is associated with seasonal allergies, high blood histamine levels, obsessive compulsive behaviour, addictive tendencies etc.

Over-methylation(excessive methyl donors n the body) symptoms can be associated with: anxious behaviour, low blood histamines, no seasonal allergies, panic attacks, food/chemical sensitivites etc.

See the full symptom lists here:

http://carriagehousemedicine.com/services/ease-anxiety-depression/

Methylation problems arise because of lack of specific vitamin and mineral nutrients causing lack of enzymes activity in the Methylation Cycle at different critical points in the cycle. These cause serious non-functioning blockages in the Methylation Cycle itself.

Fixing these methylation cycle blocks or breaks will therefore benefit both your CFS and Candida problems.

Here is a methylation protocol for people with CFS which should benefit both your CFS/Candida conditions:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle

You should also be able to buy all the supplements necessary to re-adjust and re-balance your methylation cycle from here.

It's also well known that many vegans lack proper methylators like Vitamin B12 because there is usually a deficiency of B12 in vegan diets. Zinc is another one that is lacking in vegan diets which can lead to high copper levels in the body. Magnesium is another one. That's why getting a hair analysis might also be beneficial for you. A hair analysis will also tell you all the heavy metals you have in your body and will also tell you what vitamins/minerals are missing in your diet as well.

Other nutrients that should help your mother's heart problem are regular daily dosages of Acetyl-l-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, D-Ribose, Magnesium, and Selenium.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
06/01/2014

Robyn, I've been experimenting with Papaya Leaf Tea. If the Paw Paw you are talking about is Papaya, than the Leaf Tea won't have the sweetness in it.
Replied by William
Jacksonville, Florida
03/01/2015

Hi all. I'm new to an infectious dkin disease with Candida issues as well. So rearched online natural remedies for my condition. Found a lot of natural remedies. I decided to go to the local Natural Roots store and I purchased some Turmeric and Echinacea to take orally. Also, bought some essential oils and bar soap. JoJoba Oil, Tea Tree Oil, Oregano Oil and Eucalyptus Oil for topical use and for baths mixed with Epsom Salt and Munuka Honey-Tea Tree Oil bar soap. The essential oils and soap has almost completely healed my skin after 2 weeks of use.

However, I found online many sites stating Turpentine kills Candida and many other internal issues aswell. So, I purchased some 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine by Strip Clean at the Hardware store. I started taking it orally as suggested by what I found from online sites researched. The first day mixed half a teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of honey. Not bad at all. Two days later I took the same dosage. In to my second week I upped the dosage to a full teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of sugar. I liked it much better and I was feeling great, more energy than I 've had in many many years. Two days Iater I took that same dosage and was loving the way I was feeling. Passed some type worms. But, my chest hurts, the upper GI. And my stomach is cramping. Is this part of Candida die of or do I need to go to E. R. ? Thanks for your help.

Posted by Cindy (Use) on 12/22/2013

Hi I would like to hear from anyone who has/is trying the kerosene treatment for candida. how is it working for you, how much do you use etc. Thank you

Replied by Jefff
England
12/23/2013

Have been watching Dr.TULLIO SIMONCINI VIDEOS about cancer being a fungus CANDIDA ALBACANS.He uses so to sodium bicarb.to kill the fungus. Don't know if this helps.
Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/01/2014

I want to share a video that I found from a Google search on the usage of turpentine. It's pretty detailed & will benefit the ones wanting to know more on how to use turpentine as well as the health conditions treated by it. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtzHyl1GRA
Replied by Fiona
Tustin,ca
01/02/2014

[YEA]   I have been taking turpentine bath every single day for the last several month. I had sexual dysfunction last several years. Now I reach climax 3 times per day no problem. when I start turpentine bath soon around waist area started to have a breakout. A lot of Fibrin structure. looks like scab. at the end what determins human death is the number of fibrin. The more fibrin coms out, the skin become half transparent and softer.when the kidney was cleansed I had major change in inner ears. As kidney and ear are related. I was producing a lot of ear wax. I often wondered when I was a child, I regularly produce ear wax. when I got sick, actually it stopped at a considerable speed. I believe my system started to get clogged. that is why. As the kidney started detox, my ear follows up.

After I started turpentine bath I reduced the number of herbs and supplements. Because turpentine itself is a powerful therapy. And I also rotate putting these into bath. For example, methylene blue, Magnesium, povidone iodine, MSM, Borax, Aquarium salt, BHT, DMSO. The beauty if turpentine bath is there is absolutely no extra effort. Because we all wash everyday, I take bath everyday.. Nothing added..!

Replied by Faeqa
Amman, Jordan, Jordan
01/04/2014

Hi Fiona from Tustin: which kind of Turpentine you mean? The kind distilled from pine tree resin or petroleum distillate? Thank you
Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/04/2014

Hi Faeqa. What you need to look for in turpentine is "100% gum turpentine" or "pure gum turpentine" on the label. Check out Walter Last's site with more information about turpentine/kerosene: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm. God Bless!
Replied by Racheal
Nigeria
05/25/2014

Re: Kerosene for Candida. I just started the kerosine therapy and I haven't seen any difference, although it's just the third day. Is anyone doing it right now? Lets get your situation report.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
05/25/2014

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Hi Rachael...In order for Kerosene to be effective you must use it in the right way. I'm working with an autism group at the moment. All the autistic children are infected with candida as well as parasites. I know this because they must post pictures of their stools every day on this site. Their stools always show parasites as well as biofilms coming out of the children's intestines.

The way to use kerosene or turpentine is to take one teaspoon mixed together with at least one tablespoon of castor oil. You can add molasses too for a better taste if you like. The purpose of the castor oil is to help spread the turpentine throughout the intestines more thoroughly -- don't forget that the intestines is 28 ft long so the kerosene has to be used efficiently.

If you are just supplementing kerosene on its own with water outside mealtimes, then the kerosene will be rapidly absorbed into the blood from the stomach -- with not much kerosene left to go into the intestines to fight the candida and remove biofilms there. Taking kerosene with water is OK for blood born diseases but not OK for candida -- because the throne and fortress of candida is always in the intestines which has the biofilms.

So take the kerosene mixed with castor oil and take this at mealtime just before you eat. That will ensure that the majority of the kerosene goes where it should -- into the intestines to both kill the candida and remove the biofilms as well.

Replied by Miquela
East Coast, Usa
02/04/2015

Dear Bill and Ted, I have been reading and appreciating all your info so much. What an incredible service! I am writing in regards to my 2 1/2 year old son. I would like to try some of these remedies for him: colostrum and turpentine/castor, also perhaps the iodine protocol and transdermal magnesium oil. He's struggled with digestion, candida related symptoms since birth, with weakened immunity, and most recently a case of lyme (we think) and re-occuring pinworms.

We have always chosen to treat naturally and gently, but I am concerned that he is not thriving and that I must find a way to treat the root issue. I had chronic yeast throughout the pregnancy and then antibiotics for Typhoid Fever one month before his birth. He's always struggled with constipation and currently is on probiotics, prunes, chia, etc. and is still only having a BM every other day. Any extra help in figuring this all out would be deeply appreciated. I am planning to do castor/turp and iodine protocol for my own candida issues, and hopefully get my husband to do it with me for depression. I will let you know how that goes. I don't seem to understand the length of time to continue all these protocols? Thanks again, all my best* ~Miquela

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn Usa) on 01/07/2013

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Well, I began my turpentine treatment this morning by injesting 1/2 tsp soaked in sugar cubes. Dr Daniels' protocol calls for 1 tsp, but I'm kinda chicken and will go slow. I do appreciate your earlier input and will let you know how this wild and strange adventure comes out. I opted to go this way because candida is one tough thing to get into control. A few hours later I took a pslyllium fiber shake containing bentonite clay, diatatamisious earth, cayenne and flax seed meal. Hopefully, as this passes through, it will drag out some of the affected yeast in my intestines. Wed. I will get a Hydrogen Peroxide I.V. to work on those in my blood stream.

Some posters have said they have done battle with these little critters for years. At 76, I need a PDQ treatment. ======RH========

Replied by Kazolias
Farmington, Utah, United States
05/27/2013

Hi Robert Henry, I wondered if you had any updates on the turpentine treatment? Thanks for your time :) Pamelia

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Posted by Joes (Calgary, Alberta CA) on 02/01/2015

Since I started turpentine, (up to 8 drops, 2x/week) I have problems with constipation. I have constipation issues, but I was doing enemas for that, and since the turpentine that is less effective. Does anyone have problems with this and how do you address it? Thanks

Replied by Mr. Ree
Usa
02/02/2015

Take 200 mgs magnesium malate 4-5 times a day or more until you have relief...Then reduce that amount.. You should get down to 400-600 mgs find out that will be sufficient, but everybody's diffferent....Swanson sells magnesium malate at 200 mgs/capsule...Don't buy hard pills and they have a tendency to not dissolve...


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