Turpentine and Kerosene Remedies

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Posted by Farmergirl (West Branch, Michigan Usa) on 07/09/2013

[YEA]  Every spring and every fall my grandmother would line my brothers and cousins up and each of us got our twice yearly dose of worming ---- a tablespoon of milk with two drops of gum turpentine. And the next few days we kept tabs on our stool passings and sure enough, out came the worms. Hey, we lived on a farm will all kinds of critters and my gram was well versed on how to get rid of most of the nasty ones.

Posted by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
01/26/2014
HI U SPARROW, , , , , , , , , , ,

Not speaking as an authority, but when I started turpentine a year or so ago I researched awhile and bought my gum spirits from a professional Art Supplier on the internet. Artist use the highest quality Gum Spirits Turpentine there is. I would mention the name, but don't think that's allowed. It's not dirt cheap, but I had rather pay a little more than get tainted stuff.

Have not taken it in a while, but took it on on sugar cubes and it stayed with me for the rest of the day. Followed the directions of Dr Jennifer Daniels on the internet. She's one smart lady and was trying to help poor people until Big Pharma ran her off to Panama. I won't get into my Dante's Inferno routine.

========OLE ROBERT HENRY===========

EC: Robert Henry ... folks like yourself who have been posting on EC for a while can mention brand names.

Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
01/26/2014
Hi Sparrow from New York -- from Om

We used to get it in kindergarden in Europe. A few drops on sugar cube or molasses. Start with one drop and increase to, say, four. Up to one quarter tsp. or a little more. I found mine at a hardware store and phoned the company to make sure it was pure. It was pure. it is great stuff once you get used to it. Google "Experiences with Kerosene and Turpentine". Or read Walter Last on these. Namaste, Om

Posted by Sparrow
New York, Ny,
01/26/2014
This will sound silly but where do you get the turpentine? We have been suffering from pin worms im at my witts end. I'm willing to try but it seems a bit scary. Can I give it to my kids ages8 -2?
Posted by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn.
01/27/2014
HI U TEXAS, , , , , , , , , , Started up a mill in Sheldon in '67. Great state, great people. Just hope this is not violating any rules, but what you are looking for is on this site.

http://www.utrechtart.com/Search/Default.aspx?src=GUM+SPIRITS&Search=+

=========OLE ROBERT HENRY============

Posted by Helpyourself
Texas, Usa
01/27/2014
Please tell us the name of the Brand.
Posted by Mary
Saskatchewan, Canada
03/10/2014
Om, how often did you receive the turpentine when you were in kindergarten? Thanks
Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
04/24/2014
Mary, sorry for late reply: the nurses who ran the kindergarten would treat us with the stuff on sugar cube whenever they saw we were developing a cold.

Let me share with you good people my adventure with turp a coupe of days ago. It has a good outcome though. My mite problem in my face, scalp and eyes after tedious treatments would not abate but become worse. So, after much subduing my chicken out feelings I stripped and dipping my face cloth into the turp proceeded to cover myself from top to bottom as per a link on line somewhere suggested from european sources. Midway, the stuff started to spread by itself a good deal which reminded me of oil spills in the ocean with an ominous feeling that I was in for an unknown experience of an intimidating nature. By the time I had reached the top I stated burning with all my skin vibrating violently, the turp wandering into mouth and eyes so I could not see. The fumes were overwhelming, reaching lungs and brain. I was mortified, felt like swooning off and on, ran to open the window and showering with cold water without stopping the vibrating and burning effects which were very strong. I grabbed a blanket and finally thought it best to call the ambulance which arrived with two very helpful men who took some initial tesst which turned out o.k. I only told them I had inhaled turp from an open container, not more because I do not lie. At the hospital all tests turned fine except they wanted me to shower because of the smell but the nurses forgot to give me soap and towels but that is another story.

The ambulance men said I was sensitive to turp odour and it should not have any repercussions. After some useless hours freezing in a flimsy gown I got dressed not having got the promised soup as I was weak from not eating for hours, I took a taxi home.

About two days later please note the outcome: My skin is good, the mites not noted again except I have to use application in the nose with tee tree oil. No itchy head. A long standing fungal infection that resisted all attempts to clear it: Gone! My eyes are clear, so is my brain, in fact better, and my intermittent cough gone which makes me think if I ever had predators in my lungs, they are gone.

I had taken before oral turp w sugar without trouble and will do so again. I m having trouble with finding the right turp even though I questioned the manufacturer, their product saying"pure" and "bio option". May be I will end up finding it eventually.

Please take this account for your entertainment only. Regards, Om

Posted by Mama To Many
Tennessee
04/24/2014
Dear Om,

Hi! What an adventure with turpentine! You certainly kept your sense of humor.

I haven't seen posts from you in a while and am happy to see your story here today. Thanks for sharing!

~Mama to Many~

Posted by Bill
San Fernando Philippines
04/25/2014
Hi Om...I've also been experimenting with gum turpentine. I'm still using turp drops daily for oral hygiene. I tend to always mix a few drops of gum turps with other oils such as coconut oil or castor oil if I use it on externally on the skin. And I'm still supplementing the turpentine(1 tspn) + CO(1 tspn) + honey/molasses(1 tspn) once or twice a week. It's definitely powerful stuff.

I was also thinking that a much easier way to take a turpentine bath would be to have a pine bubble bath and simply add one or two whisky shot glasses of gum turpentine to the water as well. The pleasant pine oil soap in the water would make the turps smell unnoticeable and would also function to more efficiently emulsify the turps into tiny droplets for better distribution in the bath water. Then all you need to do is clean yourself and just relax in the hot bath for about 20 mins in order to allow the turpentine to act and do its magic on the body.

If you are looking for a safe organic source of gum turpentine then perhaps you should have a look at this link.

Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
04/26/2014
Bill,

Thanks for your remarks. Trouble is when I bought this house, I had no idea how useless a "water saving" bath tub is. It is just good for showers. I will use your information and hope to get somewhere with the mite problem. I am now going to use neem to improve the immune system as well as alkalizing. Those buggers are in my eye sockets and ears/nose. I thought also of using a mister with colloidal silver for the face. If you have comment or suggestions I would appreciate those. Namaste Om

Posted by Om
Hope, Bc, Canada
04/26/2014
Hi Mama to Many from Tennessee,

Nice to her from you. I had a heart break but life has to go on. Keep in touch. I like to read your contributions. Fond regards, Om

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
04/26/2014
Hi Om...I'm in the same situation as you -- no-one takes baths in the Philippines, its always showers. Some more suggestions for you.

If you regard your mite problem as just topical and not internal, then you can try the following remedies:

* Use the topical remedy that Ted uses for Lyme/Morgellon's Disease shown here on EC. His remedy is also geared to kill a wide range of pathogens including insects, worms, fungus, bacteria, viruses, parasites etc. I would simply use this hydrogen peroxide/borax remedy topically after showering, applying it to all your mite infected areas(including hair and scalp) and leave it to dry and soak in properly without washing it off. Later, after an hour or two, you can wash it off. It might also be advised to hydrate the skin afterwards using aloe vera oil or coconut oil.

Ted has also used a stronger modified form of this remedy in the past to get rid of his more serious Morgellon's problem(also a tick problem) when he was working in America -- using 2% - 3% DMSO(Dimethylsulfoxide), 5% borax in a 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution as a topical remedy. He also suggested using neem. See this link. This creates sodium perborate in solution which is carried into the sub-epidermal regions by DMSO to more effectively kill all the mites and pathogens lurking deep inside the skin. This remedy is very efficient and doesn't just act on top of the skin but works its magic deeper in the sub-epidermal layers to kill the mites and larva there as well.

My own favourite all-round topical remedy, which might also help you, is to simply apply DMSO mixed with a few drops of lugols iodine to the offending areas. Works on the same principals as Ted's Morgellon's remedy(iodine is carried deep into the skin by the DMSO). I now use a 50-50 mix of DMSO with lugols iodine but I would not advise other people to try this because some people might get a reaction in the thyroid caused by lack of certain anti-oxidants in their diet. For more on this aspect see here and here.

* For your nasal problems which are most likely a fungal/bacterial problem, I would recommend the product shown here. I know this product works well because my daughter-in-law uses it for her rhinitis, allergy and blocked nose problems and it works like magic. It is an all herbal nasal product made in an organic way without the use of chemicals, steroids, anti-histamines etc. Another option is just to regularly rinse your nose using a neti pot, water and sea salt. Or you can use a dilute solution of lugols iodine with a dropper which will also help to kill pathogens and clear the nose.

If none of the above remedies work for you or you get some improvement but you cannot fully cure your own mite problem with topical remedies alone then, logically, there must be an internal problem in association with the mite problem.

* Take Ted's borax water remedy as shown on EC. Borax acts to dry up and kill the mites from the inside. Add 1/8 tspn borax to a liter of water and drink a liter a day using this remedy on a five days on, two days off cycle like that.

* One of the better remedies against Lyme(and mites) is Dr Lee Cowden's internal all-herbal remedy which is fully described here with all nutrients, dosages and sourcing of ingredients used in his protocol:

Dr Cowden's Lyme Cure

Also remember that you will have to disinfect bedding, furniture and clothes to be absolutely sure of mite riddance. Wash all you clothes with borax. Spray a mite disinfectant on bedding and furniture or you can simply sprinkle and use diatomacious earth just as well to kill them in the house.

Posted by Rubarb
Jackson, Ms
04/26/2014
Do not use turpentine gum oil in the bath! It's a nerve existed and has batch non stop tingle on wet skin, much like tea tree oil but twice as so.
Posted by Omom
Hope, Bc Canada
04/27/2014
Hi Bill, again many thanks for your kindness in providing valuable info. It may well be that I may have them internally, too, do you think that turpentine w. BSM three times a week would deal with that?

I had planned to use neem caps. with basil caps for my sugar which may deal with the problem. But after three months' usage I would have to use something else as neem is very astringent and causes weight loss. I will look into all your suggestions. I was familiar with Ted's info. Actually I can't wait for the time when there will be public confessions - it is going to happen in the near future.

Meanwhile thanks again - where can I buy Lugol's ? All the best, Om

Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
04/27/2014
Mary from Saskatchewan -- hi Mary! This is also a follow up on my experimentation. Quite frankly, it made no difference in the end. However, it is better to experiment than to be experimented on. My next course of action is to drink 1/8 tsp borax in 1 l water daily, spread over the day.

MMS had worked very well, using it three times in succession in one session. But as with Borax the skin takes a beating. Around the eyes like thin paper! I did always the moisturizing but still, if I did not use the urine therapy, my skin would be almost ruined, having a very fair complexion.

Next I will use neem inside and out as it raises the immune system and has a considerable fame in Ayurveda. With it I will alkalize. That will be for about 12 weeks. If that does not do , there is Bill's suggestion to use Ted's remedy for morgellons.

Originally I contracted this by using someone else's pillow ten years back. I was more than busy with animal rescue and I observed the effects were creeping up eventually. If it can be remedied, time will tell. After using MMS with very good results, they did indeed come back! At any time I use my own saliver which has been very successful for some people. This is why I think urine therapy, the blue print of your body, will be a workable option. I am using it daily on a wash cloth, fresh, and it has a wonderful effect on the skin. Because I am vegan, it is quite pleasant. Those buggers had caused a red passage way on my cheekbone, that is why I thought it was time to try turpentine. It was not worth it.

I did not read of the lady who used kerosene - can you fill me in on this? I could not find it here. I wish you well in your endeavours. Actually, one night I stayed up and copied all the success posts for my perusal. Regards, Om

Posted by Mary
Saskatchewan
04/27/2014
Om from Hope Bc Canada: Hey thanks for the reply Om! I use turpentine as well.

I have the mites too and also did the turpentine thing even my hair. I didn't get rid of them however. Glsd you had such a positive experience. besides the nasty hospital stay I mean. But you lowered the mites load on your body.

I took turpentine, this am and am going to start MMS in a few hours to keep them separate. I am now coated in neem mineral oil and borax mix, with an undercoat of 90 % alcohol including flushing my nose and filling each ear for 15 minutes. Never done so much laundry in my life. I think the neem is going to be the one that tips the tide as it stops them from reproducing.

Did you read the post of the woman who sprayed and left on Kerosene and had wonderful results? Keep you posts going I like to read your thoughts! Mary

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Posted by Sundawg (Ga, Usa) on 10/01/2014

I'm new to this conversation, but I have ordered 4oz of turpentine from G Forest as well and it smells so so so good. I just absolutely love it. I used to take it with sugar but now lately I haven't been taking it internally. I made a cream of just virgin coconut oil and some turp in it, and have been applying it religiously to my finger. I burnt it on my mower at least 2 months ago and it has been real wrinkly looking and then I ended up getting a blister there and it made it worse.

Well after applying that coconut/terp to it it is finally starting to heal very nicely.

Also I have been using the terp in an enema and have been getting out lots of trash, some looks like flukes. They are light green in color and looks like dried grape skins or tomato skins. I only use about 5 drops at a time, but it seems to work well. Although I haven't been able to find much info on this subject, so I tried it with success.

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn Usa) on 01/01/2013

HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN, , , , , , ,

Spent several days on the computer searching for kerosene that can be ingested. Found the 100 % Gum Sperit Turpentine for my Candida treatment and while on that trek, I ran across lots of articles about kerosene to cure cancer. Can anyone shed any light on that kind of kerosene. I have keorsene lanterns, heaters and always have industrial kerosene on hand. Our early ancestors used both to stay healthy. I remember my Granddad used Coal Oil for a poisonous snake bite. He lived to be 88. Appreciate any input you may have on both oils. =======RH=========

Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
01/02/2013
Robert Henry: Took my first dose (2 sugar cubes saturated) of 100% Turpentine Dec 29. Got a little heavy aftertaste in the gut fallowing, so I air-popped some corn w/ added sunflower oil & sea salt, fallowed by lemon water (increase the bile flow) and woke up latter in the night feeling unusually light. What improvement I noticed that night has seemed to carry on until now. After only one dose I have been telling myself, albeit w/ some reserve, "I've found a new and powerful ally. "

I am planning another dose tomorrow. Maybe to early to draw any conclusions but compared to the effect of other natural anti-pathogens like Grapefruitseed, Olive Leaf, Neem, Oregano, the Turpentine appears waaay more powerful. I guess it all comes down to potency and Turpentine is a highly distilled pure grade. I experienced no herx or die-off to speak of, although I do use lots of fiber and take peroxide cleansing enemas daily. I also found the taste not at all unpleasant, as-a-matter-of-fact, one might add a dropper to a citrus drink enjoyable.

Posted by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
01/03/2013
Hi Robert Henry, I noticed a man from the LDN Yahoo Group who is taking kerosene along with Lufenuron (aka dimilin, apparently) to rid himself of candida. (which worked very well) He said he bought it at Lowe's home center, 1K grade, mostly free of sulfur for about $10/gal and takes it (1 T, I believe, but not 100% certain) three times a week. I have no knowledge about the safety of this. He also has cancer and has written interesting protocols he has developed for it, most recently using HCL and water. You might like to join this group and type in the search word kerosene and you will be able to talk to him directly and privately through his email if you hit reply. Best wishes!
Posted by Robert Henry
Ten Mile Tn.
01/11/2014
HI U GOD FEARING PEOPLE DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , , JOHNNY'S COME LATELY

I rise to tell all to be aware of charlatans among us. I researched Candida a few years ago and the only person who mentioned turpentine was Dr.Jennifer Daniels and she was not on EC. Now she is in Panama because our Big Brother got after her. She learned of the healing properties of turpentine from her poor patients who learned it from their slave ancestors. It was not a slave thing but a poor person thing, both black and white. That's all they had. Kinda like using burnt motor oil and sulfur to cure your dog of the mange. That's all they had. That is a dig if you are just coming aboard.

Anyways, now we have our regular experts coming to the forefront on the turpentine subject. Does that not bother you? It bothers the heck out of me. I trust all, but verify, and so should you. I am smart as all get out, but I don't know everything. We have a few folks on this site who know everything. Bull.

=======OLE ROBERT HENRY=================

Posted by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
01/12/2014
HI U THERESA, , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Since us slow Southern folk still don't understand you fast northern folk, was this an insult, a compliment, or somewhere in between?

My friend , Danny, was reared in the Smokies near Tellico, Tn. His dad was the game warden in that region and he used Danny to run the hills and hollows behind his Plott dogs when they were hunting hawgs or bears. This was before cb's, tracking collars or 4 wheel drive trucks. I told Danny what you had said about burnt motor oil and dogs. He said she would not want to know how my dad treated his dogs for mange. They had a 55 gallon 3/4 full of oil and sulfur and dumped their dogs in head first. When the dog was soaked , they pulled them out.

Then and today, some folks don't want the problem so they just shoot the mangey dog. I don't do that. Maybe some of your logic is due to your metropolitan environment. You try to be country, but you don't know how. You don't want to know what I do to critters who get into my garden, berries, or orchard. As the good book says, man is given dominance over all creatures. Somehow folks lately have gotten that just "basackards".

Good sparring with you, but I figure EC has had about all they want from the both of us. Soes, I wish you well and am signing off and suggest you do the same.

Love you like a cousin. ====OLE ROBERT HENRY===========

Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
01/12/2014
Robert Henry from Ten Mile ---it' me, Om

I actually agree with the oil/sulphur treatment in YOUR times. Henry, but now the oil is carcinogenic and destroys tissue, causing severe health problems.

I remember a post where a woman tried to heal her dog of mange by seeing the vet. As often, nothing brought on a cure. Then someone reported her when they saw the dog's condition which brought her to court and the result was she was forced to buy the useless vet treatments. It got up my heckles. As a rescue person I have had a few times to answer for ignorasmusses who would rather kill an animal than bring it back on the road to health. So, I think in your times this was a successful cure and I am glad.

I have purchased pure turpentine but cannot come up with where to buy sulphur powder. So meanwhile I will buy NEWSTOCK from feed store which guarantees freedom from mite.

I strongly go along with some old time remedies which are practised even now in Europe. As a next thing I want to mention re your treatment of "intruders" and what to do to them: The Lord gave us free will to do as we please, with ONE condition : face up to the consequences! The key word is KARMA. Namaste, Om And all the bet.

Posted by Prioris
Fl
01/12/2014
When I took milk thistle 20 years ago, it caused me to go into a very deep depression. I tried it on and off and had same reaction. Never knew why. Sometime in last 10 years, I have been able to take it without any problems. So these problems can happen with non turpenine stuff also.
Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/12/2014
Ole Robert Henry, you are a gem!

Please keep digging DEEP and never pull up your shovel and pail and leave the beach.

I know in the olden days [ie when ORH was born] used motor oil and sulpher was the shizzle for mange on a dog; its what poor people had - and it did the trick. But nowadays - yup, there is that butt - nowadays [2014] motor oil isn't what it was when you were still wet behind the ears and making mud pies; the motor oil has changed - its all synthetic and with all those additives that your grand pappy never had in his oil when he dipped you in it. This alteration to the staple ingredient is why the remedy is now what we call 'out of date' and 'down right bad fer yer dawg' and especially 'dag near gone kill 'im".

It makes me wonder about turpentine used back when you were knee high to a grasshopper, vs the kind you can get today. I wonder what has changed - for the good OR bad.

As you say, its a subject that requires careful personal research, and as usual I appreciate the leads you always provide so we can do our own digging for answers.

Thanks as always for keeping us thinking - :-)

Posted by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/12/2014
Hello Robert Henry from Ten Mile Tn:

I trust many people here at EC. However, there's one particular person that's gained my full trust. That person is Bill Thompson. Take a look at his view on turpentine. It's the absolute fastest & best way to get rid of candida & its bio-films. The turpentine just needs to be taken at appropriate doses.

There's going to be detox from this stuff. It's a given! I've been on it myself but I get worse detox symptoms from iodine than I do from turpentine. Turpentine is absolutely safe! This stuff can cure a lot of diseases! I totally trust Bill & his research!

Posted by Sami
Tx, Usa
01/13/2014
Just an FYI in ref. to your comment about finding sulphur powder. I have been using the MSM (crystals) from local farm/feed store. (can't name brands/stoes on this site) Same type can be ordered on line manyonline pet or feed type websites. I researched this in the last year and it is as close to organic sulphur as you can get with out paying high priced of regular organic sulphur. This product is the crystal type product that looks very similar to like Epsom salts. I usually dissolve in water and use as a topical or consume depending on what the illness/wound treatment. The brand I get is 99% with no other fillers. In the past I was buying drug store capsules and breaking/empty to dissolve in water but it can have many fillers and sulphur can be picky and may be less effective if mixed with some chemicals. I think I paid about $12 for 2lbs just to give you and idea. Other organic sulphurs on the net sold for human consumption can cost you $50 and up. Works great and there are several brands/mfg so just look at the labels to make sure you get purest with out all the fillers. I think the crystals could be hand ground if you need powder.
Posted by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/13/2014
Ole Robert Henry -

No insults ever intended, just sticking on you like a pit bull to ensure the correct message is given re: dipping dogs in used motor oil. What OM said about dipping your dog in used motor oil - she delivers the message in such an eloquent and effective manner.

And love ME like a cousin? Dang... If I could hug you through the computer screen, I would let this tree go right now and do it!

Love YOU like a flat lander that done moved up the mountain...

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/16/2014
Just some more information on Turpentine. In a recent email to me, Mr Prakash, whose son has severe parasite, candida and bacterial infections, describes the progress his son has made while using turpentine.

The newer research confirms that it is the toxins from the parasites and candida that interfers with a child's brain development which causes various autism spectrum disorders. So it therefore becomes paramount to rid Mr Prakash's son of these parasites and candida in order for his autism problems to improve. Mr Prakash has only been using the turpentine protocol for just over a month. Here is how he describes turpentine's effects against parasites, candida and biofilms in a recent email:

"My son has been making a steady progress [on MMS] with 1-2 worms/biofim per week. But after using Turp, has expelled almost twice as often. His behavioral gains were also very drastic. Another parent who has not seen any biofilm/worm for 3 months has started seeing worms and biofilm after a week on Turpentine

...Turp is Turpentine. It's made from pure gum spirits of pine trees. It's very effective against Biofilm/Candida which is the missing link in our [Autism] recovery protocols. It was used as a home remedy in olden days."

I also know that many people seem to have unfounded fears about turpentine that seem to me to be unjustified. And here's why:

If you look up the MSDS for gum turpentine they will never have any toxicity research available on the LD50 levels for rats or rabbits. However, if you can find an MSDS for turpentine that occurs before 1999 (when turpentine was suddenly banned as a poison for no good reason) then you will see that it has an LD50 (median kill) level on rats and rabbits of over 5000 mgs/kg. Now compare this LD50 value against the LD50 for ordinary table salt (2600 mgs/kg) and you will see that turpentine is almost two times safer (as a poison) than ordinary table salt.

Furthermore, the LD50 for turpentine is 5000 mgs/kg which means that a man weighing 100 kgs would need to drink 500 mls -- or two glass fulls -- of turpentine to cause death.

I'm only recommending one teaspoon of turpentine a day for adults.

References

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

Posted by Earth Clinic Follower
Usa
01/17/2014
Bill, what is the MMS spoken of in this thread? And adults could safely take kerosene/turpentine at a teaspoon a day? Is there a maximum time and would you need to stop for awhile and start again? Is one better than the other as far as taking kerosene versus turpentine. Thank you
Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/17/2014
Hi Healthseeker...MMS is Miracle Mineral Solution or Chlorine Dioxide that was discovered by Jim Hubble. It is a pro-oxidant (rather than anti-oxidant) method of destroying pathogens. This means that it uses its free radical properties to kill pathogens. MMS is very similar to hydrogen peroxide in this respect. Unfortunately, if you are using any form of pro-oxidant protocol like MMS or hydrogen peroxide, this will always tend to deplete the anti-oxidants in your body. Generally, MMS reduces the body's anti-oxidants because pro-oxidants will always tend to react with any anti-oxidants which would tend to cancel out each other's beneficial effects.

This is why, when supplementing MMS and hydrogen peroxide, you must never take any anti-oxidants at the same time. And this is one of the reasons why MMS only tends to be effective in the body for less than an hour -- because the body naturally tends to get rid of free radicals quickly.

Turpentine is an anti-oxidant protocol that tends to kill many forms of pathogens. Turpentine therefore does not tend to deplete anti-oxidants and therefore lasts for a much longer amount of time in the body. In Mr Prakash's usage of turpentine/MMS for his young son, I also strongly advised that he should alternate the MMS and turpentine protocols on a week on, week off basis -- you should never use MMS and turpentine at he same time.

There seems to be little or no difference between kerosene and turpentine in terms of its content or healing qualities. I also believe that turpentine is the stronger verson of the two(higher iso-pinene content). I also tend to recommend turpentine because its easy -- just look for pure gum spirit of turpentine. There are many equivalents to kerosene -- mineral oils, paraffin, white spirit etc. This tends to be confusing. But turpentine is turpentine -- just look for turpentine made from the pure sap of pine trees with no additives.

Work up to the one teaspoon dose over a week or more. Start with a 1/4 teaspoon of turps. After you have been on this protocol for a month then take a rest for about a week from the protocol. And if you have serious candida issues then you will probably get Herx or die-off. If this happens then just take a day off from the protocol and do it like that.

Posted by Om
Hope, Bc, Canada
01/18/2014
See JIM HUMBLE website. Not Jim Hubble.

Posted by Susan (New York) on 09/12/2012

Bill from San Fernando, as usual your postings always educational. Below is the link from UK on turpentine.

http://www.oldtimeremedies.co.uk/labels/turpentine.html

Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 09/11/2012

Due to my difficult experience with trying to help Asians and Africans as well as people from India and Pakistan with candida problems who cannot afford these nutrients, I have had to go herbal to help them which creates other difficulties. In the Philippines, the average wage is about 150 pesos per day or $3.60 per day. So, for a Filipino who has systemic candida to spend perhaps $16.00 or more on a small bottle of lugols iodine -- this is just not reasonable or possible. Similarly, for an average Filipino to be able to afford organic food is simply not possible or realistic because of the cost. As you can imagine, this has frustrated me somewhat in my efforts to help these people.

As a result of all these problems, I've been trying for some time to find another candida remedy that is easy to take, that kills candida quickly and is relatively cheap and easy to obtain.

And I think that I've found a cheaper nutrient (historically and widely used in the past) that does indeed kill candida rapidly in the intestines, blood and organs plus it does so much more. This substance is known by various synonyms: spirit oil of pines, spirit of gum turpentine or kerosene are some of the names.

There is not alot of research on these fractionated oils as supplemented oils but in the 1899 version of the Merck Manual the following has been recorded as oil of pine's supplemented benefits and are of interest:

gonorrhea

meningitis

lung disease

arthritis

abdominal problems

This list goes on and on.

Odd therefore, that in the 1990 Merck Manual and after more than 100 years of wide successful use, the above description for turpentine was radically changed to describe turpentine as very poisonous.

I guess that turpentine spirit, very much like the broadband pathogen-killing abilities of lugols iodine and hydrgogen peroxide, scared the medical research establishment with its apparently unassailable healing qualities.

Some of the constituents of turpentine:

Benefits of alpha-pinenes:

Lipophilic
Bactericidal
Fungicidal
Insecticidal
Pesticidal
Anticarcinogenic (cytotoxic on cancer cells)
Diuretic
Antioxidant
Immunostimulant
Anti-inflammatory
Anti-convulsive
Sedative
Anti-stress
Hypoglycaemic
Capable of expelling xenobiotics
Anticholinesterase activity

Benefits of beta-pinenes:

Lipophilic
Bactericidal
Fungicidal
Insecticidal
Acting against osteoclasts
Anticarcinogenic (cytotoxic on cancer cells)
Pesticidal
Antioxidant
Sedative

Source:http://test.imp.lodz.pl/upload/oficyna/artykuly/pdf/full/--04_09_Mercier.pdf

Oil of pines or turpentine also contains significant amounts d-limonene, cavicol, terpenes, acetic acid and butyric acid. I am not going to descrbe the benefits of these, not enough space, but -- from all the evidence and testimonials that I've read, it appears that turpentine or kerosene kills candida very rapidly in the intestines and in the blood/organs. Other effects -- it cures arthritis because oil of pines also kills mycoplasma and is also anti-cancer. It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory and a safe pain killer. In short, spirit of gum turpentine appears to be strongly anti-candida, anti-cancer, anti-mycoplasma, antibacterial, antifungal, antivirus and anti-parasitic. With the possible exceptions of iodine and hydrogen peroxide I really don't know of any other single nutrient that has these broadband anti-pathogen killing effects. It simply doesn't get better than that. No wonder then that the 1990 Merck Manual decided to trash it -- how could their drugs compete with that!!

You can read all about the evidence and testimonials here:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/11136827/2098715122/name/Turpentine-The_Candida_Cleaner -Dr. Daniels.pdf

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html

http://www.rethinkingcancer.org/resources/magazine-articles/7_9-10/kerosene.php

I must admit that I haven't tried distilled oil of pines yet, due to the difficulties of getting the properly distilled oil, but I fully intend to take it for about four weeks or so (as recommended by Dr Daniels as the ultimate cleanse and blood purifier ) to see and understand its effects. For this reason, I hesitate to actually recommend it here as a cure for candida or anything else yet.

In respect of all the above on the health properties of turpentine or kerosene, I therefore have a request to everyone reading this.

Could you please ask your grandparents -- grandfathers or grandmothers -- whether their parents or granparents ever used oil of pines, turpentine or kerosene as a regular body cleanser or healer of diseases etc.? And could you report anything you find out back here on EC? Turpentine/Kerosene was supplemented widely in America and Europe before the 1900s. I'm really wanting to know dosages and effects on people who have regularly used turpentine or kerosene for healing specific diseases.

I will also be obtaining some turpentine or spirits of gum turpentine(hopefully with a low boiling point of 100 - 150 degrees C) to test out internally on myself soon and will report back its effects, good or bad, when I can.

Many thanks.

Posted by Suzy
Eugene, Or
09/11/2012
Bill--- you asked about turpentine. My Great - Grandmother once described in her memoir that her mother (Norwegian Immigrant) used it to treat them for head lice. Nits were removed. The hair was combed with a comb dipped in turpentine scrapung the scalp a bit then braided.

She also discussed a mixture of pitch and turpentine that was always kept near the stove (to stay soft) This was used for cuts and scrapes.

My great grandmother's younger sister was struck in the face with a double bladed axe and her nose was hanging by skin. My great grandmother claimed her mother put the nose back in place and covered the affected area liberally with the pitch mixture. I doubted this story as a child. Once when my great great aunt was visiting I asked to see her nose... I this was over 80 years later... My great great aunt bore only a tiny white line all around her nose!

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/11/2012
Some more of my own thoughts on supplementing turpentine or kerosene.

Bye the way, paraffin is also a similar form or synonym for kerosene but I have avoided using it because of the pink and blue parrafin forms used in UK and Australia respectively. These coloured forms are definitely not healthy to ingest due to the additives which are used to colour them. There is also paraffin oil which is used medicinally for constipation in UK but this form does not have the same notable chemical benefits of supplementing turpentine.

Whenever a plant is damaged by an act of God or by animals, fungus, bacteria etc, the plant has its own immune system which produces a group of substances that both defend the injury against pathogen invasion and heal the damaged area. This group of chemicals that are secreted by plants has been given a name -- salvestrols. Resveratrol is a typical example of a salvestrol. If you like, salvestrols are equivalent to our own antibodies.

Production of pine resin is also a response to injury for a pine tree and this resin contains a whole host of salvestrols to defend the plant against further damaging pathogen attack and to help seal the injury.

There appears to be two significant areas of beneficial activity in how turpentine actually works in our bodies. The first area is the intestines -- where gum of turpentine's strongly anti-pathogenic actvities come into play. Secondly is the major and unparalleled blood purifying activity that these oils seem to have once they get into the blood. Therefore and concerning this, Walter Last advises that small amounts of the thinner oil forms -- the ones with lower boiling points of between 100 and 150 degrees C -- will be absorbed easily through the stomach with their main area of action being in the blood. As such, we have the thicker turpentine distilled oil forms -- those which have their boiling points up to 200 degrees C, which have more action in the intestines because these are not so easily absorbed into the blood from the stomach. So what would be most advantageous is to take a turpentine form that is equally beneficial to the intestines and blood. To this end and to get the thinner turpentine forms(with a lower B P) of turpentine into the intestines, Walter Last suggests adding a second thicker oil -- say oil of paraffin or castor oil -- to ensure that the turpentine is carried directly into the intestines from the stomach. Dr Jennifer Daniels advises taking the lower boiling point or thinner form with sugar in order to ensure that at least some of the turpentine gets into the intestines. The low boilling point forms seem to be the best ones to supplement because many of the aromatics, such as aldehydes, which are not good for the body, have already been removed by distilled separation.

Posted by Lisa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
09/11/2012
Hi Bill, I just want to thank you for your posts. This one is amazing! I am always learning from what you have to pass on. It's also always interesting to see the information which is withheld from the masses to prevent self-help in our healthcare. This is why it is so important to have a forum such as Earth Clinic to get the information out there so we, the people, can make an educated decision regarding our path we would like to pursue for ourselves.

Again, thank you always for your very informative and educational posts! May you be blessed always, Lisa

Posted by Tina
Princeton, New Jersey
09/12/2012
Hi Bill, I read your comment about kerosine and remembered the cab driver who picked us from the airport last week on our return from India. Noticing our cold and coughs, he related a story of his grandmother, who had come to the US from East Europe: she once cured him of a severe bout of cough by making him drink milk with a few drops of kerosine in it. I listened to this story in disbelief, although I didn't let on, since he was such a dear, polite man. Kerosine, when I was growing in India, was used as a fuel for stoves in the kitchen. In fact, those tragic 'dowry deaths' where North Indian brides are burnt by being set on fire use kerosine! The cab driver, who said he was in his seventies, says he never suffered from such severe cough again. Reading your information now, I am beginning to revise my opinion. Thanks!
Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/12/2012
Hi Suzy... Much thanks and God Bless you for your speedy response to my request. It seems that there is no end to the benefits of turps and kerosene oils.

Some more info on my meditations on the usefulness of Turps and Kerosene distillates. I'm sure many here would be horrified at me saying or even admitting that these oils are also used as paint thinners and varnish removers.

But that's the whole point isn't it? -- That is one of the biggest benefits of these oils. To illustrate this I'll just tell a true story. I read a magazine article, a long time ago, where a very famous gastro-intestinal surgeon was being interviewed. The interviewer asked all the usual questions -- but I really became interested when the surgeon said outright that, in all his 35 years as a gastro surgeon -- and during all this time -- he admitted that he had never ever seen what he would describe as a healthy pink inner intestines. Instead, he described most of the inner surface of the intestines he had seen "as having a smooth dark grey appearance, as if the villi surfaces had been varnished...". When asked what had caused this dark grey varnished look by the interviewer, the emminent gastro shot back without any hestation at all -- "Unquestionably it was due to excess vegetable oils in the diet."

I've aleady said that Turpentine and Kerosene are used as capable solvents to get rid of and dissolve varnish -- so the benefits of these oils wrt removing the intestine's inner varnish (caused by these chemically processed, oxidized vegetable oils) should be more than clear now. As well, the health benefits for both your intestines and your nutritional pathways arising from this should also be fairly obvious.

Posted by Lucena
Dubai, UAE
09/12/2012
RE: KEROSENE CURE To begin with I was born (1948) in a remote little town in the Philippines where tap water and electricity was too expensive. At night we used kerosene lamp, the simplest method we used by using a pepsi bottle with the holed cap for the cotton wick, the used kerosene and mom's home made coconut oil mix was used whenever we kids got cold/cough. Before bedtime, she rubbed on our throat, chest and back, then covered our body with flannel, throat wrapped with hankerchief to keep warm and off to bed.. The next morning or after a couple of mornings.. Cold/cough gone. Until my mom was in her eighties.. she was using this mixture to cure her cold/cough. She never take OTC cough syrups.

Their life style was very simple/close to nature.. Whole life drinking spring water, cooking in clay pots using wood for fire, never used stainless or aluminum pans/ pots, for frying they used an iron wok which is seldom used since cooking oil is expensive. Anothe habit was weekly swim in the sea, planted their own veggies. My parents did not know what is processed/fast food.The different life style between my mom and her sister(she lived in manila most of her life) resulted to breast cancer death while my mom died of traffic accident at the age of 80 with no illness while my father who drunk local coconut wine in his youth died of kidney failure at the age of 84.

I wish I could have a life like my parents which is impossible now that I am living in dubai a place where almost nothing is natural.

keep up the good work Bill.. God Bless Us.
Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
09/12/2012
First, thanks to Louwrence from Rustenburg for your reply to my post (i almost overlooked it) w/ the Walter Last link to this seemingly great anti-pathogen cure-all. Now thanks to Bill for his interest in the possibilities of these substances as medicine.

My recent results from using other natural anti-pathogens like Colloidal Silver and MMS have been mixed, but I never really sustained any kind of therapeutic level or doses. One big reason for my lack of commitment is the fact that both these agents are known reducing agents of not only bad pathogens but also good endogenous Glutathione enzymes. With an already damaged Glutathione production problem just kinda leaves me more than a little discouraged on these.

So, the Turpentine or Kerosene agents seem very promising except the administration. Question: have not any other routes of administration been tried as it first seems somewhat disgusting drinking these compounds, and also absorption problems?

Posted by Baldev
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
09/13/2012
Hi Bill, I want to say you are simply "GREAT". I appreciate, the pains you take to find the information and put it on this site. It is a treat to read your and Ted's articles/reports. I have a suggestion, on this site there should be way by which one could get on to the page where one can read whatever Ted and you have so far written on this site. Because it is a pleasure to read, it gives lot of knowledge. I try to pass on and help people who are ignorent about what good alternate methods can do to their health. God Bless You. Baldev
Posted by Citygirl27
Richardson, Tx, Usa
09/14/2012
To Bill or anyone in the Philippines: I have a friend that is headed to the Philippines tomorrow, for a few weeks. Is there anywhere there he can get this pine spirit oil? Rather amusing about the Merck documentation, ha. Also, to take the chance to get things, what else should I send him back with? I seem to remember hearing of different effective things that aren't costly there, that are hard/impossibe to get in the US, but they are scattered all throughout EC website. Thanks for whatever you can suggest.
Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/15/2012
Hi CityGirl32... The right forms of Turpentine or Kerosene for supplementation are described in an article by Walter Last shown here:

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

You should also easily be able to buy some of these forms of turps or kerosene -- if not all of them -- quite easily within the US or from the internet.

I would also not advise that your friend brings turpentine back to the US from the Philippines in their luggage because this might cause her some considerable trouble -- turpentine is a flammable solvent and is definitely not allowed on planes now and the airport checks on people coming into America are also fairly rigorous now. So perhaps better and less trouble all round just to order this off the internet or buy within America itself if you can.

Also my warm thanks to Lucena, Suzy, Trina -- and any others that I've missed out-- for posting some wonderful info on the use of Turpentine as a healer.

Posted by Timh
Louisville, Ky, Usa
09/15/2012
Among the top culprits of "bad" vegetable oils is: Trans Fatty Acids, Hydrogenated Veg. Oil like margarine, and V. Oils that have gone rancid. I use very little V. Oil and hardly ever cook with it, but I do add one cap 250mg BHT, one 8,000 iu Vit-A, and one 400 iu mixed natural tocopherols to 1 bottle mixed Veg oil. I supplement Fish Oil softgels as well as Flax Seed Oil softgels and sometimes either Borage or Evening Primrose Oil.

And of course we now have the GMO's to contend with.

Posted by Kevin
Mars
09/07/2013
Hey Bill,

Thanks for your great research, it's really helped me a lot. I managed to find the right Turpentine with a boiling point of 165 degrees C. Does this mean it will be absorbed into the blood from the stomach; As Turpentine with lower boiling points do (i.e., between 100?C and 150?C) or will it have more action the intestines as you mentioned about Turpentine with boiling points up to 200?C ? Have you found a Turpentine with a boiling point in the lower range? Sorry. I know I'm showing up late to the party.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/09/2013
Hi Kevin... There are several ways to supplement turpentine. I either supplement a teaspoon of turpentine with a teaspoon of either molasses or raw honey, mix them in my mouth, then down it with some water. You can also take the turpentine with sugar. Or I just take the teaspoon of turpentine with just some water.

If you have candida or intestinal problems then perhaps it is better to take the turpentine with sugar, molasses or honey just before meals. Then less turpentine gets absorbed directly into the blood from the stomach and most of the turps gets carried by the food into the intestines where it is most needed to get rid of the candida.

Taking the turpentine or kerosene with water or milk on an empty stomach, where it is more directly absorbed into the blood, is mainly the way that people in eastern Europe take this remedy. This method -- which acts to purify the blood -- seems to be very effective against disease outside the intestines like many and varous cancers, tuberculosis, leukemia, diabetes, sepsis etc. See this link.

As to your question, I've been using pine oil(essential oil) derived from Scots Pine (Pinus sylvestris) for the last six months. I have not been able to find any respectable turpentine or kerosene in the Philippines yet. However, Walter Last recommends several types and brands of turpentine or kerosene that can be used here in this article.

Posted by Christine
Nottingham, Uk
09/10/2013
I read with interesting article post by Bill regarding Turpentine. It made me think about the connection to Limonene, which is extracted from orange peel and contains turpentine. It is also used as an industrial cleaner. I use it for digestive issues and mucus problems. I wounded whether it help by killing fungus and parasites. Does anyone know? My best wishers to everyone. Christine
Posted by Bill
San Fernando, The Philippines
09/10/2013
Hi Christine... Turpentine or distilled pine oil contains many terpenes -- of which limonene is just one. Pine oil usually contains about 0. 5% - 2% limonene content. The major constituents of pine oil are alpha- and beta-pinenes(also terpenes). The many health characteristics and benefits of the pinene content of pine oil are defined in this link.

The most interesting aspect of its healing properties is that turpentine is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-mycolasma, anti-viral and anti-parasitic. As well, these pinenes remove candida and bacterial biofilms quickly due to its solvent properties as a paint stripper. Pinenes can also expel xenobiotics -- they act to remove poisons and foreign drugs from the body.

I also must relate an interesting story and side-effect concerning my own use of pine oil. About six or seven months ago, just before starting to use and road-test the pine oil, I had a tooth capped because my gums had receded and the tooth roots were exposed. After I had this done, about a week later, the tooth roots became well infected and started to ache and it just got worse and worse. This tooth also became very loose and wobbly and I thought that I would eventually have to have the tooth pulled. I certainly did not want to loose this back tooth.

Then I started my experiment with supplementing about 8 - 12 drops of pine oil every day with a teaspoon of molasses or raw honey or with a glass of water.

After about a month into this protocol I noticed that the tooth pain or infection had gone away completely. The tooth and roots had also firmed up considerably.

So, as a result of this discovery and every night before bed, I would just put two drops of turpentine on my finger, wipe it on my tongue and spread it around my mouth with my tongue. I would not drink any water -- I would just leave the drops of pine oil in my mouth overnight. This was the last thing I did before my head hit the pillow.

First thing in the morning when I woke up, I noticed that my saliva or spit was thin and not sour, thick and mucusy. Also and amazingly -- no bad breath. This was all evidence to me that pine oil was successful and useful at killing bad bacteria in the mouth.

By putting just two drops on the tongue before sleep and keeping it in the mouth overnight, this will also have other minor benefits. During the night, the saliva and pine oil will naturally travel down the esophagus to the stomach -- effectively and gently disinfecting these regions overnight. As well and as you sleep, the pine oil vapour would also travel to the nose and lungs -- also helping to kill pathogens in these regions.

I can now crunch hard seeds and nuts with my once-infected back tooth. I also believe that taking two drops of pine oil every night helps to remove biofilms on the teeth, kills plaque bacteria and prevents gingivitis, thus improving and healing both the gums and teeth. I was also quite surprised but particularly pleased that pine oil successfully and completely cured both the infected tooth and the pain.

For myself, I will continue to use pine oil in this simple manner as a regular nightly protocol to help keep my teeth and gums healthy.

Posted by Ed2010
Canada
09/10/2013
Hi Bill,

When you refer kerosene for turpentine. It reminds me of the hydrocarbon liquid fuel distilled from Petroleum. Of course both are different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene. Kerosene is used as fuel for home cooking in rural regions of india and by the lower income people. Thanks

Posted by Tom
Qld
10/04/2013
I have been looking at the uses etc on the kerosine and noted that the colouring added to our kerosine may be a problem... however the following product is clear.. http://www.recochem.com.au/files/downloads/Industrial_Kerosene_Clear_PDS_Apr10.pdf

Perhaps one of your readers may advise on the use of this product. Tom

EC: Not sure about kerosene, but medicinal turpentine can be found if you search Google under: "Medicinal Turpentine" or "Turpentine Gum Spirits".

We've seen the following old-time remedy sold in grocery stores and pharmacies throughout the USA: http://www.amazon.com/Humco-Turpentine-Gum-Spirits-Oz/dp/B001V9X8ZI

Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
12/16/2013
Strange as it seems, suddenly I remember way back us kids in kindergarten in Europe. Whenever a child had cough or respiratory trouble, the nuns that ran the kindergarten gave us a sugar cube drenched with a black substance that did taste quite ok, perhaps with a faint resemblance to liquorice but not quite..

I remember the taste and was wondering what it might have been. Well, on reading Walter Last and other posts I know it was the good old stuff that did the trick. No wonder big pharma is trying to demonize it! Om

Posted by Redtulip
Nz
05/23/2014
Kerosine for internal use must be purified. In Russia people use Todicamp (kerosine with green hull walnut) but you have to be very careful when choosing manufacturer. The best one comes from the inventor's son Andrey Todica.
Posted by Cheryl
Vancouver, Bc
10/28/2014
@Tom Qld That turpentine wouldn't be good. It has a boiling point of 145-260. In this link http://totaltruth.ca/pdf/Kerosene it says the ones with higher boiling points aren't effective for purifying the blood but may clean the large intestine. The Recochem manufacturer provides a few turpentines and the one that is the best is the Pure Turpentine Bio Option one. It has a boiling point of 150-180C. This is the one most used. If you live in Canada you can get it at Canadian Tire.
Posted by Om
Hope Bc Canada
10/28/2014
Cheryl (Vancouver, BC) ---

The Recochem product you mention landed me in hospital. It is not 100%. Then I ordered from Georgia, USA, the Forest product which is awesome. Expensive postage but well worth it.

Just to make sure, no one ingests the Recochem product, not even externally. I only used it externally and was overcome with the fumes and the effect on my skin which started to vibrate all over the body.

Namaste, Om

Inhaling Turpentine Vapors   2  0   

Posted by Dlangdado (Cookeville Tn) on 12/10/2013

I've got two aunts in their 80's and take no prescription medicine and are fairly active for the age. They swear by inhaling turpentine esp in the winter to prevent flu. They also take a few drops on their tongue from time to time. They have got some old bottles of turpentine and it reads rectified and it gives the dosage that can be taken. Has anyone else heard of inhaling the vapors to prevent any illness?

Posted by Janis
Hillsboro, Oregon
01/18/2014
[YEA]   In our family we have always used it to cure sore throats. Take a deep breath (so you will be exhaling, swab a little on the back of your throat, then take a spoon full of honey, sugar or jelly. It's the best relief for a sore throat I've ever taken.
Posted by Sami
Tx, Usa
01/19/2014
In ref to brand names for Turpentins I guess we are not allowed to name or use links. I heard of this organic product made in the USA on a holistic radio show. Google these words Diamond and Forest and Turpentine and you will find some quality products. I have the local hardware store brand at home but plan on ordering the organic type soon.
Posted by Helpyourself
Texas, Usa
01/19/2014
What brand is it?
Posted by Karolina
Toronto, Canada
06/14/2014
Hey there! Quick question about the medicinal kerosene... Anyone know where I could purchase this product? I understand through doing some research that this kerosene has to be processes at a very high temperature to be safe to ingest. Does anyone here know any sources who sell this in Toronto? If not here, then where?
Thanks!!
Posted by Sacral.Chakra
U.S.A.
11/16/2014
[YEA]   I wish we could post an avatar or photo here of a couple very old steel vintage pharmacy signs for pure gum spirits turpentine with the dosages for internal use written on them. They appear to be from the early 1900's era. One is from a pharmacy in Hartford New York & the other from a pharmacy in Roseburg Oregon. Turpentine was definitely a common cure-all back in the day.

Kerosense vs. Turpentine vs. Lamp Oil   0  0   

Posted by Om (Hope Bc Canada) on 01/11/2014

To Bill of the Philipines from Om

Bill, would you be so good and help me with the above.

I bought "pure turpentine" for self administration. I also read up extensively but am still confused. Then there is lamp oil. And the warning on the back of the products! I want to start as soon as possible as my liver is making trouble. Am vegan. Vegetarian most of my adult life. Never alcohol or drugs. No pharmaceuticals except a brief spell with insulin which I have ditched. Minimal amount of sugar, rather honey. Veggies and nuts, some fruits. Some B vits, Zeolite and lots of Amla with turmeric. Also hemp seeds and green drinks.

The one I bought here in Canada says Bio-Option, pure turpentine. Danger. Or should it be kerosene?

Please let me know you opinion. Thanks, Namaste, Om

Locating Gum Spirit of Turpentine: Australia   0  0   

Posted by Nicolette (Australia) on 10/22/2014

Does anyone here have experience with buying turpentine in Australia? What would be good brand?

Posted by Kris
Tasmania
11/11/2014
Hi Nicole, I've been using diggers pure gum turpentine (think its made from eucalyptus).. but I dont know if its as good as pine turpentine :/ . It's safe though. been using it for a few weeks

Locating Gum Spirit of Turpentine: India   0  0   

Posted by Ashish (Bangalore, India) on 01/25/2014

Hi, I need 100% pure gum spirit of turpentine for my 3 yr old son who is suffering from intestinal parasite infection. Do you guys know any reliable source in India. Thanks, Aashish

Posted by Ms
Tulsa, Oklahoma
03/03/2014
I found pure gum spirit of turpentine on Amazon.com made by humco. 3 4oz bottles for $18 USD.
Posted by Wells
India
03/04/2014
I am also in India looking for pure gum turpentine. Have located a product from medical store called turpentine oil (double distilled) from Ashwin Pharma. I emailed them to ask whether it is pine or mineral oil based and they confirmed that it is a vegetable grade Turpentine Oil derived from trees. Can anyone tell me if this is good for internal use?
Posted by Bear
India
05/14/2014
Hey I am also from india. Drop me an email on bear_gryll(at)yahoo(dot)com

Muscle and Joint Pain   1  0   

Posted by Al (Alvena, Sk., Canada) on 01/27/2013

[YEA]  I was told of an old concoction used for muscle and joint pain many years ago. It is made by combining two ounces of turpentine, two ounces of apple cider vinegar and one egg in a blender. Simply blend until it is creamy looking and use as a topical liniment. It does not need to be refrigerated, keeps for months when stored in a glass jar with lid and is very effective.

Posted by Gavin
Manganui, Northland, New Zealand
01/27/2013
Be careful turpentine sold at the supermarket isnt real turpentine, its slightly more volatile than kerosene made by the oil industry. Real turpentine comes from pine trees and is a bit of a mission to make.
Posted by Lola
Auckland, NZ
06/17/2014
You are right, Gavin.

I have found gum turpentine in NZ and we make our own emulsions for turpentine bath.

Posted by Steve
AZ, US
08/26/2014
You make your own emulsions? Is there a formula and recipe for that?
Posted by Redtulip
New Zealand
09/03/2014
Yes, we make and sell them worldwide. I cannot place the link to our website but if you will Google - turpentine bath tonic you will find it first in search results. We almost finished the video about the procedure which will be on Youtube and just need to put titers in English language version.

It is quite difficult to make yellow tonic but more easy to make the white one.

Ingredients of yellow tonic - vegetable turpentine -750ml, castor oil-300ml, oleic acid-200ml, caustic soda-20g and water -200ml. But you cannot just mix it, it a special technology to make the tonic.

Ingredients of white tonic - vegetable turpentine -500ml, water -550ml, baby soap -30g, salicylic acid -3g, camphor spirith -20g. Again, it a special technology to make this tonic.

Nail Fungus   0  0   

Posted by John (Pittsfield, Ma) on 06/01/2014

Dear Bill,

Thank you for your informative posts on turpentine. I am wondering if you think t would be helpful to apply a few drops of turpentine to nail fungus once or twice a day? I have infected toes and have been soaking them in a bleach solution once or twice a week. It appears to help, but if I go on a business trip and my feet are encased in shoes for a number of hours on a plane, the fungus seems worsen. Thank you.

Parasites   2  0   

Posted by Patricia (Las Vegas, NV) on 06/25/2014

[YEA]  OMIGOSH. What a miracle this is. Just the fact that this turpentine treatment found me is pretty mind-blowing. I've been struggling with a intense parasite infestation since I lived in Honduras more than 25 years ago. Done and done and done everything I could find.

Appreciate all the instructions and suggestions I found here…as usual, a very informed group.

Day Five: I slept soundly for 8 uninterrupted hours! Woke refreshed. Have had clean energy without caffeine all day. No post lunch nap attack.

Day 3 I got a little over confident since I was doing so well…took a full tsp of turpentine with oj in the morning. Oops. Massive herx.

The next morning I came out of it by taking sodium ascorbate and some IP-6. Have felt great since.

Used molasses and coconut oil for a carrier.

I'll report my progress next week. Amazing turn around in only 5 days. Who knew a 7 buck can of turpentine could restore your health? My Diamond G just arrived in today's mail. Switching to that for internal.

Thanks all very much.

Posted by Kimberlea H
Cold Country Usa
11/16/2014
[YEA]   I heard if you have a very high level of toxicity from parasites or such and you neglect to make sure your bowels are clear to allow the parasites to exit you could temporarily get a black spot from the turpentine cleansing effect. just make sure you are able to expel the parasites and toxins through your bowels. warm water enemas work well for this. Parasites exist with Lyme, Candida, Malaria, Giardia, and many more conditions.

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Posted by Mary (Saskchewan, CA) on 07/28/2014

[SIDE EFFECTS]  Hi Bill: I have been using turpentine successfully for some time. Now when I take it my teeth turn a black tinge and my tongue turns the same in the middle. Also its like the cells on my tongue get a little longer. its weird and disturbing. Also, it takes about a week without Turpentine for it to go away. I don't want to stop as the results were spectacular.

thanks in advance for any thoughts you have, Mary

Posted by Mary
Saskchewan
07/29/2014
Thank you Bill: you could be right and maybe I took too much. I have since stopped and will be very methodical when I resume. I got mine at home Depot which is where Tony Pantelleresco gets his. He is the Healing With Turpentine Man on You Tube (Canada). Oddly enough I had this same reaction to a product formulated to "Solvent Remove", so somehow I believe this is related to my liver, as the product was full of sulfer type amino acids like NAC, Methionine etc. When I asked my naturopath what happened he had no answer.

Next time I try I will have the Diamond G Forest Products one.

I will report on my progress.

Thank you so much for your time Bill. I always like reading your posts and learn sooo much.

Mary

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
07/29/2014
Hi Mary...In my own continued use of turpentine, in all the research and articles I've seen and read, in the autism group that are also using the turpentine protocol, I have never come across those symptoms that you describe when supplementing turpentine.

I have no idea what turpentine dose you are taking so here are some reminders and caveats:

* You should only ever take Turpentine at a maximum frequency of twice a week. The adult dose is 1 teaspoon. Work up to the one teaspoon dose slowly.

* You should also take castor oil with the turps dose. The castor oil dose can vary from 1 tablespoon(mild laxative) to 4 tablespoons(strong laxative). You can mix in a little honey or BSM for taste.

* Under no circumstances should you be taking turpentine continually on a daily basis for extended periods. For serious problems, the maximum number of consecutive days allowed for supplementing turps is 7 days only.

Dr Jennifer Daniels does report that in one case she had a woman who initially ignored her advice and who took too high a dose of turpentine to start with and she had black areas on her skin andface as a result due to excessive detox through the skin. These black areas all disappeared when she reduced her dose. Dr Daniels article is here.

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Posted by Conner (United Kingdom) on 09/12/2014

Hi, recently, well today, I've came across Turpentine for Candida. Would this be safe for an 18 year old to consume and if so how much should I take? Here is what I have, which may or may not help:

  • white tongue
  • psoriasis on scalp/forehead
  • brain fog
  • strained eyes / losing vision!
  • on my left leg, by the shin, I get muscle spasms
  • irregular BM
  • very tired

Thank you so much.

Posted by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/12/2014
Hi Conner...Canada Turpentine or Canada Balsam(Terebinthina Canadensis) is well known in old western medical pharmacopia and is derived from the fir tree. See this description. I prefer to use the pure gum spirit of turpentine from the pine tree.

It seems, from all your symptoms, that you probably do have candida problems. The muscle spasms you are having are probably due to a lack of magnesium and/or a lack of potassium in your diet. To confirm whether you have candida for yourself(since doctors are so hopeless at accurately diagnosing candida problems), you should take this free questionnaire online(which is based on Dr William Crook's questionnaire for diagnosing andconfirming candida):

Candida Questionnaire

You also stand a good chance of having low thyroid or hypothyroid condition due to the effects of candida waste toxins in the blood. So your immune system will also probably be impaired.

Since you live in UK, I would simply use the Myland's brand of pure gum turpentine which is made in UK. Just do a google search on "Myland's Turpentine" to find UK vendors.

You can also use Kerosene to help get rd of candida:

Kerosene: The Universal Healer

If you do have systemic candida, I've posted my full protocol here on EC. See this link. I've also written a book which is sold on EC and amazon.com that goes into much more detail about candida as a pathogen and also provides and describes a more focused multi-protocol to get rid of this disease. The point I'm making here is that systemic candida can be extremely hard to defeat. So taking just one thing against serious candida issues usually will not cure this problem -- the candida either never goes away completely or it just keeps comes back. That's why you really need to follow a more focused multi-nutrient protocol to get rid of this disease. You will need to use other candida killers such as lugol's iodine, borax, alkalizing etc as well as following a special diet with lifestyle changes for a successful outcome.

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Posted by Gigi815 (Edison, Nj) on 03/01/2014

[YEA]  I tried the shot glass of gum spirits in the tub. Soaked for about 20 minutes, felt good. Came out, my skin is so soft it's unbelievable. Will continue at least once a week in a bath. Also started to take internally. No problems, had some slight burning around the heart area. My doctor told me one of my values were a little thick, but that was "normal" for someone "my age, 55". (Didn't like that) Anyway, thinking the gum spirits is working on the area that needs fixing. Will continue with 1/2 teaspoon and build up. Will see how it goes.

Posted by Joeboo
New York, US
04/07/2014
[BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS]   I've tried turpentine bath 2x a week for 2 weeks now. It has good and not so good result for me. Yes, there was a tingly feeling on the inner thigh area every time I bathe, but it's not a biggy. Definitely, alleviates my lower back pain and relaxes my whole body, no doubt. Feeling very clean and removes all the crap out of my skin. Will continue doing it...

However, every time I bathe, after a couple of hours, I got flaky scalp. Not sure if it's too strong for the scalp or my head develops the flakes/dandruff fighting the bacteria/crap. Well, I was hoping that turps bath will heal my dandruff issue instead of getting more… Any other thoughts from people who has same issue? Thanks Bill for this helpful information.

Posted by Sdl
Canada
06/03/2014
Re: Turpentine bath. How did things go?
Posted by Redtulip
Nz
07/04/2014
It is VERY important to use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and the method is very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes.

Do search Google for turpentine bath procedure or turpentine bath tonic.


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