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Posted by Caladesi (Florida) on 05/30/2014

[YEA]  Bill, I have been using the turpentine for only 1.5 weeks and it is great for the candida, I even saw white rope like fungus pass the day after my first turp dose. No herxing either. I am on a vegan high raw diet, but eat fruit (juciy not sweet fruits like bananas and dates) with some cooked low fat vegan for dinner. It's what I can sustain. My main concern now is helping my 75 year old mom onto the turp for her candida/allergies, etc. She is currently taking Atenolol 25mg which is a beta blocker for irregular heart beat. Even though she remembers turp sugar being around her house as a kid and her grand dad using it, she is terrified to swallow it, which I understand!! I was too and am still having a hard time getting past the gasoline like taste, but it does work better than anything I've ever tried, so I am on it 2x week for now. I want to see if I can work up to more but just need to take it slow as I have had CFS for 8 years and am sick and tired of being sick and tired. God bless you for your help!

Replied by Robyn
Melbourne
05/30/2014
Bill and Caladesi, you are lucky if you can take it. I reduced it to 1 drop but the pain is still far too great. I would just end this 21 yrs of severe suffering. Bill suggested I have paw paw with each meal. I have hcl and enzymes but isn't paw paw a bit sweet? if I'm trying to get rid of candida.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
05/31/2014
1164 Posts
Hi Caladesi...I am very happy for you that the turps protocol is working so well. And yes, turps was widely used internally in the old days.

Although both you and your mother are having candida issues, I would also ask you to consider two other problems that you both might have whose symptoms are very similar to candida symptoms -- especially symptoms like brain fog , lethargy, low energy, depression etc.

First, hypothyroid or low thyroid was also an issue for me when I had candida. See the many symptoms for hypothyroid here. Just taking the Iodine Protocol(with companion nutrients) resolved that one very fast for me. So perhaps it's advisable for both you and your mother to get a thyroid test. Do not use the TSH/T4 test which your doctor will probably recommend because it is very inaccurate. Ask him for the Free T3/Free T4 test instead, much more accurate. Also, if you or your mother are low thyroid, do not use the synthetic thyroid drugs that the doctor may recommend. Use the Iodine Protocol. I didn't bother with the thyroid test. I just took the Iodine protocol and I've been on it ever since.

Methylation problems are the other issue. If you are under- or over-methylated this can cause problems with your neurotransmitters(seratonin, dopamine, norepeniphrine and epeniphrine levels), immune and detox systems. This will have consequent and distinct ill-effects on your mood and your body's detox and immune systems.

Lack of methyl groups in the body(under methylation) is associated with seasonal allergies, high blood histamine levels, obsessive compulsive behaviour, addictive tendencies etc.

Over-methylation(excessive methyl donors n the body) symptoms can be associated with: anxious behaviour, low blood histamines, no seasonal allergies, panic attacks, food/chemical sensitivites etc.

See the full symptom lists here:

http://carriagehousemedicine.com/services/ease-anxiety-depression/

Methylation problems arise because of lack of specific vitamin and mineral nutrients causing lack of enzymes activity in the Methylation Cycle at different critical points in the cycle. These cause serious non-functioning blockages in the Methylation Cycle itself.

Fixing these methylation cycle blocks or breaks will therefore benefit both your CFS and Candida problems.

Here is a methylation protocol for people with CFS which should benefit both your CFS/Candida conditions:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle

You should also be able to buy all the supplements necessary to re-adjust and re-balance your methylation cycle from here.

It's also well known that many vegans lack proper methylators like Vitamin B12 because there is usually a deficiency of B12 in vegan diets. Zinc is another one that is lacking in vegan diets which can lead to high copper levels in the body. Magnesium is another one. That's why getting a hair analysis might also be beneficial for you. A hair analysis will also tell you all the heavy metals you have in your body and will also tell you what vitamins/minerals are missing in your diet as well.

Other nutrients that should help your mother's heart problem are regular daily dosages of Acetyl-l-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, D-Ribose, Magnesium, and Selenium.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
06/01/2014
Robyn, I've been experimenting with Papaya Leaf Tea. If the Paw Paw you are talking about is Papaya, than the Leaf Tea won't have the sweetness in it.
Replied by William
Jacksonville, Florida
03/01/2015
Hi all. I'm new to an infectious dkin disease with Candida issues as well. So rearched online natural remedies for my condition. Found a lot of natural remedies. I decided to go to the local Natural Roots store and I purchased some Turmeric and Echinacea to take orally. Also, bought some essential oils and bar soap. JoJoba Oil, Tea Tree Oil, Oregano Oil and Eucalyptus Oil for topical use and for baths mixed with Epsom Salt and Munuka Honey-Tea Tree Oil bar soap. The essential oils and soap has almost completely healed my skin after 2 weeks of use.

However, I found online many sites stating Turpentine kills Candida and many other internal issues aswell. So, I purchased some 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine by Strip Clean at the Hardware store. I started taking it orally as suggested by what I found from online sites researched. The first day mixed half a teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of honey. Not bad at all. Two days later I took the same dosage. In to my second week I upped the dosage to a full teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of sugar. I liked it much better and I was feeling great, more energy than I 've had in many many years. Two days Iater I took that same dosage and was loving the way I was feeling. Passed some type worms. But, my chest hurts, the upper GI. And my stomach is cramping. Is this part of Candida die of or do I need to go to E. R. ? Thanks for your help.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
03/01/2015
1164 Posts
Hi William...Your upper GI pain might simply be due to symptoms caused by candida die-off or Herx reactions. And if you are, at the same time, detoxing heavy metals with other protocols then this can give very similar symptoms as well as, in some cases, strange skin problems. Initially, when you start the turpentine protocol, these die-off and detox symptoms should be expected, since you will initially be killing huge amounts of candida and other pathogens with the turpentine and other protocols and the same goes for the heavy metal detox.

Further on down the timeline, when you eventually get the candida and detox numbers down significantly, your immune system will then start to become healthy again and act dominate your body as it should and eventually you health should be much improved.

What I'm saying here, as an ex-systemic candida sufferer myself, is that when you start any successful protocol against candida then you will always feel worse before you begin to feel better and heal. Indeed, if this were not initially the case, then I would seriously question whether the anti-candida protocol you are using is working properly or not.

I also use turpentine in my own anti-candida protocols, which is a bigger protocol that is shown here in some detail. This protocol has also been quite successful for other candida sufferers who have used it.

Replied by Karen
San Antonio, TX
03/19/2015
Bill, is excessive hunger for junk food normal when taking turpentine?

Posted by Cindy (Use) on 12/22/2013

Hi I would like to hear from anyone who has/is trying the kerosene treatment for candida. how is it working for you, how much do you use etc. Thank you

Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/01/2014
I want to share a video that I found from a Google search on the usage of turpentine. It's pretty detailed & will benefit the ones wanting to know more on how to use turpentine as well as the health conditions treated by it. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtzHyl1GRA
Replied by Fiona
Tustin,ca
01/02/2014
[YEA]   I have been taking turpentine bath every single day for the last several month. I had sexual dysfunction last several years. Now I reach climax 3 times per day no problem. when I start turpentine bath soon around waist area started to have a breakout. A lot of Fibrin structure. looks like scab. at the end what determins human death is the number of fibrin. The more fibrin coms out, the skin become half transparent and softer.when the kidney was cleansed I had major change in inner ears. As kidney and ear are related. I was producing a lot of ear wax. I often wondered when I was a child, I regularly produce ear wax. when I got sick, actually it stopped at a considerable speed. I believe my system started to get clogged. that is why. As the kidney started detox, my ear follows up.

After I started turpentine bath I reduced the number of herbs and supplements. Because turpentine itself is a powerful therapy. And I also rotate putting these into bath. For example, methylene blue, Magnesium, povidone iodine, MSM, Borax, Aquarium salt, BHT, DMSO. The beauty if turpentine bath is there is absolutely no extra effort. Because we all wash everyday, I take bath everyday.. Nothing added..!

Replied by Faeqa
Amman, Jordan, Jordan
01/04/2014
Hi Fiona from Tustin: which kind of Turpentine you mean? The kind distilled from pine tree resin or petroleum distillate? Thank you
Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/04/2014
Hi Faeqa. What you need to look for in turpentine is "100% gum turpentine" or "pure gum turpentine" on the label. Check out Walter Last's site with more information about turpentine/kerosene: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm. God Bless!
Replied by Racheal
Nigeria
05/25/2014
Re: Kerosene for Candida. I just started the kerosine therapy and I haven't seen any difference, although it's just the third day. Is anyone doing it right now? Lets get your situation report.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
05/25/2014
1164 Posts
Hi Rachael...In order for Kerosene to be effective you must use it in the right way. I'm working with an autism group at the moment. All the autistic children are infected with candida as well as parasites. I know this because they must post pictures of their stools every day on this site. Their stools always show parasites as well as biofilms coming out of the children's intestines.

The way to use kerosene or turpentine is to take one teaspoon mixed together with at least one tablespoon of castor oil. You can add molasses too for a better taste if you like. The purpose of the castor oil is to help spread the turpentine throughout the intestines more thoroughly -- don't forget that the intestines is 28 ft long so the kerosene has to be used efficiently.

If you are just supplementing kerosene on its own with water outside mealtimes, then the kerosene will be rapidly absorbed into the blood from the stomach -- with not much kerosene left to go into the intestines to fight the candida and remove biofilms there. Taking kerosene with water is OK for blood born diseases but not OK for candida -- because the throne and fortress of candida is always in the intestines which has the biofilms.

So take the kerosene mixed with castor oil and take this at mealtime just before you eat. That will ensure that the majority of the kerosene goes where it should -- into the intestines to both kill the candida and remove the biofilms as well.

Replied by Miquela
East Coast, Usa
02/04/2015
Dear Bill and Ted, I have been reading and appreciating all your info so much. What an incredible service! I am writing in regards to my 2 1/2 year old son. I would like to try some of these remedies for him: colostrum and turpentine/castor, also perhaps the iodine protocol and transdermal magnesium oil. He's struggled with digestion, candida related symptoms since birth, with weakened immunity, and most recently a case of lyme (we think) and re-occuring pinworms.

We have always chosen to treat naturally and gently, but I am concerned that he is not thriving and that I must find a way to treat the root issue. I had chronic yeast throughout the pregnancy and then antibiotics for Typhoid Fever one month before his birth. He's always struggled with constipation and currently is on probiotics, prunes, chia, etc. and is still only having a BM every other day. Any extra help in figuring this all out would be deeply appreciated. I am planning to do castor/turp and iodine protocol for my own candida issues, and hopefully get my husband to do it with me for depression. I will let you know how that goes. I don't seem to understand the length of time to continue all these protocols? Thanks again, all my best* ~Miquela

Replied by Beverly
Virginia
03/08/2015
Miquela from East Coast, Usa 02/04/2015

Writing about your 2 1/2 yr old son. My daughter had a huge problem with pin worms & nothing worked..not even the Dr. prescriptions. This was about 38 yrs ago! An elderly grandmother told us give her 100% pure Turpentine. She said that every fall & spring all the people used to use 10 drops of turpentine FOR ADULTS (on sugar..only for taste so do as you need on the sugar..maybe honey or just water).. For kids less depending on size. I gave my daughter 5 drops & you do this for 3 days on empty stomach. I was AMAZED. She was free of the pin worms right away. Since that experience I use it for parasites of different kinds. You can try it & see how the little one does with it..I wish the precious little one well.. God Bless..

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn Usa) on 01/07/2013

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Well, I began my turpentine treatment this morning by injesting 1/2 tsp soaked in sugar cubes. Dr Daniels' protocol calls for 1 tsp, but I'm kinda chicken and will go slow. I do appreciate your earlier input and will let you know how this wild and strange adventure comes out. I opted to go this way because candida is one tough thing to get into control. A few hours later I took a pslyllium fiber shake containing bentonite clay, diatatamisious earth, cayenne and flax seed meal. Hopefully, as this passes through, it will drag out some of the affected yeast in my intestines. Wed. I will get a Hydrogen Peroxide I.V. to work on those in my blood stream.

Some posters have said they have done battle with these little critters for years. At 76, I need a PDQ treatment. ======RH========

Replied by Kazolias
Farmington, Utah, United States
05/27/2013
Hi Robert Henry, I wondered if you had any updates on the turpentine treatment? Thanks for your time :) Pamelia

Colds   0  0   

Posted by Bob (Pa) on 07/10/2015

Pre WWII tonic:

My dad says he took kerosene and molasses for colds before 1935. Is that possible?

Constipation   0  0   

Posted by Joes (Calgary, Alberta CA) on 02/01/2015

Since I started turpentine, (up to 8 drops, 2x/week) I have problems with constipation. I have constipation issues, but I was doing enemas for that, and since the turpentine that is less effective. Does anyone have problems with this and how do you address it? Thanks

Replied by Mr. Ree
Usa
02/02/2015
Take 200 mgs magnesium malate 4-5 times a day or more until you have relief...Then reduce that amount.. You should get down to 400-600 mgs find out that will be sufficient, but everybody's diffferent....Swanson sells magnesium malate at 200 mgs/capsule...Don't buy hard pills and they have a tendency to not dissolve...

Deworming   2  0   

Posted by Mary (Saskatchewan, Canada) on 03/10/2014

This comment is for Bill from Philippines:

Hi Bill thanks for all your wonderful research and the answer to some questions I have asked. I wanted to know if you have ever heard of anyone using turpentine to get rid of tape worm? the reference you have given has people using 15-30 millilitres followed by castor oil a half hour later. Also I see here using it in a soapy enema? Any thoughts?

Here is the text:

As a remedy against the tapeworm, the dose is from one-half to one fluid ounce (15-30 mils), followed in half an hour by castor oil; the safety of these large doses is dependent upon the catharsis sweeping out 'the bowel before the turpentine can be absorbed. It is best administered in the form of an emulsion, although it is frequently given by dropping into a teaspoonful of sugar. (J. P. C., Sept., 1873, p. 223.)

In the form of an enema the oil of turpentine is highly useful in obstinate constipation, tympanitis, and seat-worms. From one-half to two fluidounces (15-60 mils) may be added to a pint of warm soapsuds.

Thanks Bill

Posted by Mary (Saskatchewan, Canada) on 02/26/2014

[YEA]  Hi : I just wanted to post about my recent experience of taking Turpentine in the morning and an MMS enema in the evening to expel worms. It has worked. I got the idea from the work Kari rivera and Andreas Klacker are doing to recover kids from autism.

They are finding that the removal of worms is doing wonders for the health and cognition of these kids and have developed a protocol. they use metbednezol (sp?) to kill the worms as well as MMS they call it chlorine dioxide and the MMS enemas.

I have way to many little maybe big health issues and spend way too much on my health with little to show for it. I decided to take matters into my own hands and see if some version of this protocol would make me feel better. I have more energy, have lost my horrid food sensitivities and get out lots of gross worms on the days I do this.

My question is am I the only one who has tried this? I feel down right now as I tried to describe this to my doctor who just basically ignored my discovery telling me it might not be worms and I should get a test. Thanks for reading. Mary

Replied by Maureen
Usa
09/10/2014
I am about to try the Turp therapy - just ordered a bottle from Georgia. However I wanted to comment specifically on the subject of MMS and parasites.

I have had good success with Borax for candida, and we have done some "cycles" of MMS with the family just for overall health. I am always up for the next level of personal bio-hack.

I found in December that one of my sheep had a tapeworm. Perfect time to test the MMS. (She was very ill and had lost a lot of weight. I was out of town and found out she had the runs for weeks)

I suspected that the MMS would not work alone, so I started the MMS with DMSO, AM and PM.

After 5 days I added Standard process Zymex II (a parasite specific enzyme formula). 3 days later I added a few papaya seeds to the oats. after 3 doses of papaya seeds (PM, AM, PM) I went into the barn to find about 2 feet of tapeworm.

Within 3 days her poops were pretty normal, and she has doubled in size since then.

Her sister started with runny poops about 2 months later. I did the same protocol and she passed the tapeworm exactly the same. Hers was at least 4 feet.

Posted by Farmergirl (West Branch, Michigan Usa) on 07/09/2013

[YEA]  Every spring and every fall my grandmother would line my brothers and cousins up and each of us got our twice yearly dose of worming ---- a tablespoon of milk with two drops of gum turpentine. And the next few days we kept tabs on our stool passings and sure enough, out came the worms. Hey, we lived on a farm will all kinds of critters and my gram was well versed on how to get rid of most of the nasty ones.

Replied by Sparrow
New York, Ny,
01/26/2014
This will sound silly but where do you get the turpentine? We have been suffering from pin worms im at my witts end. I'm willing to try but it seems a bit scary. Can I give it to my kids ages8 -2?
Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
01/26/2014
HI U SPARROW, , , , , , , , , , ,

Not speaking as an authority, but when I started turpentine a year or so ago I researched awhile and bought my gum spirits from a professional Art Supplier on the internet. Artist use the highest quality Gum Spirits Turpentine there is. I would mention the name, but don't think that's allowed. It's not dirt cheap, but I had rather pay a little more than get tainted stuff.

Have not taken it in a while, but took it on on sugar cubes and it stayed with me for the rest of the day. Followed the directions of Dr Jennifer Daniels on the internet. She's one smart lady and was trying to help poor people until Big Pharma ran her off to Panama. I won't get into my Dante's Inferno routine.

========OLE ROBERT HENRY===========


EC: Robert Henry ... folks like yourself who have been posting on EC for a while can mention brand names.

Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
01/26/2014
Hi Sparrow from New York -- from Om

We used to get it in kindergarden in Europe. A few drops on sugar cube or molasses. Start with one drop and increase to, say, four. Up to one quarter tsp. or a little more. I found mine at a hardware store and phoned the company to make sure it was pure. It was pure. it is great stuff once you get used to it. Google "Experiences with Kerosene and Turpentine". Or read Walter Last on these. Namaste, Om

Replied by Helpyourself
Texas, Usa
01/27/2014
Please tell us the name of the Brand.
Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn.
01/27/2014
HI U TEXAS, , , , , , , , , , Started up a mill in Sheldon in '67. Great state, great people. Just hope this is not violating any rules, but what you are looking for is on this site.

http://www.utrechtart.com/Search/Default.aspx?src=GUM+SPIRITS&Search=+

=========OLE ROBERT HENRY============

Replied by Mary
Saskatchewan, Canada
03/10/2014
Om, how often did you receive the turpentine when you were in kindergarten? Thanks
Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
04/24/2014
Mary, sorry for late reply: the nurses who ran the kindergarten would treat us with the stuff on sugar cube whenever they saw we were developing a cold.

Let me share with you good people my adventure with turp a coupe of days ago. It has a good outcome though. My mite problem in my face, scalp and eyes after tedious treatments would not abate but become worse. So, after much subduing my chicken out feelings I stripped and dipping my face cloth into the turp proceeded to cover myself from top to bottom as per a link on line somewhere suggested from european sources. Midway, the stuff started to spread by itself a good deal which reminded me of oil spills in the ocean with an ominous feeling that I was in for an unknown experience of an intimidating nature. By the time I had reached the top I stated burning with all my skin vibrating violently, the turp wandering into mouth and eyes so I could not see. The fumes were overwhelming, reaching lungs and brain. I was mortified, felt like swooning off and on, ran to open the window and showering with cold water without stopping the vibrating and burning effects which were very strong. I grabbed a blanket and finally thought it best to call the ambulance which arrived with two very helpful men who took some initial tesst which turned out o.k. I only told them I had inhaled turp from an open container, not more because I do not lie. At the hospital all tests turned fine except they wanted me to shower because of the smell but the nurses forgot to give me soap and towels but that is another story.

The ambulance men said I was sensitive to turp odour and it should not have any repercussions. After some useless hours freezing in a flimsy gown I got dressed not having got the promised soup as I was weak from not eating for hours, I took a taxi home.

About two days later please note the outcome: My skin is good, the mites not noted again except I have to use application in the nose with tee tree oil. No itchy head. A long standing fungal infection that resisted all attempts to clear it: Gone! My eyes are clear, so is my brain, in fact better, and my intermittent cough gone which makes me think if I ever had predators in my lungs, they are gone.

I had taken before oral turp w sugar without trouble and will do so again. I m having trouble with finding the right turp even though I questioned the manufacturer, their product saying"pure" and "bio option". May be I will end up finding it eventually.

Please take this account for your entertainment only. Regards, Om

Replied by Mama To Many Donate

Tennessee
04/24/2014
Dear Om,

Hi! What an adventure with turpentine! You certainly kept your sense of humor.

I haven't seen posts from you in a while and am happy to see your story here today. Thanks for sharing!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Bill
San Fernando Philippines
04/25/2014
1164 Posts
Hi Om...I've also been experimenting with gum turpentine. I'm still using turp drops daily for oral hygiene. I tend to always mix a few drops of gum turps with other oils such as coconut oil or castor oil if I use it on externally on the skin. And I'm still supplementing the turpentine(1 tspn) + CO(1 tspn) + honey/molasses(1 tspn) once or twice a week. It's definitely powerful stuff.

I was also thinking that a much easier way to take a turpentine bath would be to have a pine bubble bath and simply add one or two whisky shot glasses of gum turpentine to the water as well. The pleasant pine oil soap in the water would make the turps smell unnoticeable and would also function to more efficiently emulsify the turps into tiny droplets for better distribution in the bath water. Then all you need to do is clean yourself and just relax in the hot bath for about 20 mins in order to allow the turpentine to act and do its magic on the body.

Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
04/26/2014
Bill,

Thanks for your remarks. Trouble is when I bought this house, I had no idea how useless a "water saving" bath tub is. It is just good for showers. I will use your information and hope to get somewhere with the mite problem. I am now going to use neem to improve the immune system as well as alkalizing. Those buggers are in my eye sockets and ears/nose. I thought also of using a mister with colloidal silver for the face. If you have comment or suggestions I would appreciate those. Namaste Om

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc, Canada
04/26/2014
Hi Mama to Many from Tennessee,

Nice to her from you. I had a heart break but life has to go on. Keep in touch. I like to read your contributions. Fond regards, Om

Replied by Rubarb
Jackson, Ms
04/26/2014
Do not use turpentine gum oil in the bath! It's a nerve existed and has batch non stop tingle on wet skin, much like tea tree oil but twice as so.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
04/26/2014
1164 Posts
Hi Om...I'm in the same situation as you -- no-one takes baths in the Philippines, its always showers. Some more suggestions for you.

If you regard your mite problem as just topical and not internal, then you can try the following remedies:

* Use the topical remedy that Ted uses for Lyme/Morgellon's Disease shown here on EC. His remedy is also geared to kill a wide range of pathogens including insects, worms, fungus, bacteria, viruses, parasites etc. I would simply use this hydrogen peroxide/borax remedy topically after showering, applying it to all your mite infected areas(including hair and scalp) and leave it to dry and soak in properly without washing it off. Later, after an hour or two, you can wash it off. It might also be advised to hydrate the skin afterwards using aloe vera oil or coconut oil.

Ted has also used a stronger modified form of this remedy in the past to get rid of his more serious Morgellon's problem(also a tick problem) when he was working in America -- using 2% - 3% DMSO(Dimethylsulfoxide), 5% borax in a 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution as a topical remedy. He also suggested using neem. See this link. This creates sodium perborate in solution which is carried into the sub-epidermal regions by DMSO to more effectively kill all the mites and pathogens lurking deep inside the skin. This remedy is very efficient and doesn't just act on top of the skin but works its magic deeper in the sub-epidermal layers to kill the mites and larva there as well.

My own favourite all-round topical remedy, which might also help you, is to simply apply DMSO mixed with a few drops of lugols iodine to the offending areas. Works on the same principals as Ted's Morgellon's remedy(iodine is carried deep into the skin by the DMSO). I now use a 50-50 mix of DMSO with lugols iodine but I would not advise other people to try this because some people might get a reaction in the thyroid caused by lack of certain anti-oxidants in their diet. For more on this aspect see here and here.

* For your nasal problems which are most likely a fungal/bacterial problem, I would recommend the product shown here. I know this product works well because my daughter-in-law uses it for her rhinitis, allergy and blocked nose problems and it works like magic. It is an all herbal nasal product made in an organic way without the use of chemicals, steroids, anti-histamines etc. Another option is just to regularly rinse your nose using a neti pot, water and sea salt. Or you can use a dilute solution of lugols iodine with a dropper which will also help to kill pathogens and clear the nose.

If none of the above remedies work for you or you get some improvement but you cannot fully cure your own mite problem with topical remedies alone then, logically, there must be an internal problem in association with the mite problem.

* Take Ted's borax water remedy as shown on EC. Borax acts to dry up and kill the mites from the inside. Add 1/8 tspn borax to a liter of water and drink a liter a day using this remedy on a five days on, two days off cycle like that.

* One of the better remedies against Lyme(and mites) is Dr Lee Cowden's internal all-herbal remedy which is fully described here with all nutrients, dosages and sourcing of ingredients used in his protocol:

Dr Cowden's Lyme Cure

Also remember that you will have to disinfect bedding, furniture and clothes to be absolutely sure of mite riddance. Wash all you clothes with borax. Spray a mite disinfectant on bedding and furniture or you can simply sprinkle and use diatomacious earth just as well to kill them in the house.

Replied by Omom
Hope, Bc Canada
04/27/2014
Hi Bill, again many thanks for your kindness in providing valuable info. It may well be that I may have them internally, too, do you think that turpentine w. BSM three times a week would deal with that?

I had planned to use neem caps. with basil caps for my sugar which may deal with the problem. But after three months' usage I would have to use something else as neem is very astringent and causes weight loss. I will look into all your suggestions. I was familiar with Ted's info. Actually I can't wait for the time when there will be public confessions - it is going to happen in the near future.

Meanwhile thanks again - where can I buy Lugol's ? All the best, Om

Replied by Mary
Saskatchewan
04/27/2014
Om from Hope Bc Canada: Hey thanks for the reply Om! I use turpentine as well.

I have the mites too and also did the turpentine thing even my hair. I didn't get rid of them however. Glsd you had such a positive experience. besides the nasty hospital stay I mean. But you lowered the mites load on your body.

I took turpentine, this am and am going to start MMS in a few hours to keep them separate. I am now coated in neem mineral oil and borax mix, with an undercoat of 90 % alcohol including flushing my nose and filling each ear for 15 minutes. Never done so much laundry in my life. I think the neem is going to be the one that tips the tide as it stops them from reproducing.

Did you read the post of the woman who sprayed and left on Kerosene and had wonderful results? Keep you posts going I like to read your thoughts! Mary

Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
04/27/2014
Mary from Saskatchewan -- hi Mary! This is also a follow up on my experimentation. Quite frankly, it made no difference in the end. However, it is better to experiment than to be experimented on. My next course of action is to drink 1/8 tsp borax in 1 l water daily, spread over the day.

MMS had worked very well, using it three times in succession in one session. But as with Borax the skin takes a beating. Around the eyes like thin paper! I did always the moisturizing but still, if I did not use the urine therapy, my skin would be almost ruined, having a very fair complexion.

Next I will use neem inside and out as it raises the immune system and has a considerable fame in Ayurveda. With it I will alkalize. That will be for about 12 weeks. If that does not do , there is Bill's suggestion to use Ted's remedy for morgellons.

Originally I contracted this by using someone else's pillow ten years back. I was more than busy with animal rescue and I observed the effects were creeping up eventually. If it can be remedied, time will tell. After using MMS with very good results, they did indeed come back! At any time I use my own saliver which has been very successful for some people. This is why I think urine therapy, the blue print of your body, will be a workable option. I am using it daily on a wash cloth, fresh, and it has a wonderful effect on the skin. Because I am vegan, it is quite pleasant. Those buggers had caused a red passage way on my cheekbone, that is why I thought it was time to try turpentine. It was not worth it.

I did not read of the lady who used kerosene - can you fill me in on this? I could not find it here. I wish you well in your endeavours. Actually, one night I stayed up and copied all the success posts for my perusal. Regards, Om

Replied by Scott
San Diego, California
04/25/2015
Hello Everyone,

I have been seeing links to these Artist Turpentine. I don't know if I would use that stuff as the bottle doesn't say 100% pure gum spirits. According to Dr. Jennifer Daniels you want to use 100% pure Gum Spirits which is different then the Synthetic Turpentine. I ordered mine from a company in Georgia who sells 100% Pure Gum Spirits. I have been using the Soap too which is pretty cool but haven't actually tried the Turpentine just yet as I had picked up a slight head cold yesterday. It's gone now but I am wondering since I couldn't smell too much I decided to smell the Turpentine that I ordered knowing it's somewhat similar to Aromatherapy that the things we breath in has an effect on us somehow. Anyways I was sniffing it a bit and I think it might have stirred some stuff up inside me possibly. Anyone know of smelling Turpentine and it basically doing anything for you internally etc? I know that I have Candida from all the Symptoms etc and will be knocking it out here real soon with this Turpentine. I also don't have the sugar on hand to start it either. But as Dr. Daniels states you must be well hydrated when doing this.

Thanks and I welcome your comments.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
04/26/2015
HI U SCOTT, , , , , , , when Dr Daniels first wrote about the benefits of Turpentine, I too had no clue where to buy it. No way was I going to buy stuff from Home Depot or Lowe's. This is low grade stuff so I did as you reported, I bought Artist turpentine.

Since then, the firm down in South Georgia has become known. I think that is the way to go. South Georgia and North Fla. was where the naval stores were concentrated way back when. Folks cut the pine trees such that they bled sap and it was collected and made into many products. Soon folks would not do this hard work so it went away. I worked for Brunswick Pulp in the early '60's and these cat faces would not cook up to make paper pulp. They were full of pine resin . They had to be cut out of the pine logs prior to cooking the chips.

Wow, why go around the watermelon as I do? That's because I've been around the watermelon. Do you want to hear from a snot nose KID that has not done sheet in their life, but talk the walk?

When I buy more turpentine , it will be from these folks in South Georgia that walk the talk .

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Replied by Cyndy
Ontario
04/26/2015
Can someone tell me what they mean by pulling oils?

EC: Please see Earth Clinic's page on Oil Pulling here.

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Posted by Alfred (Amsterdam) on 05/22/2015

[YEA]  I would like to report the tremendous effect I am experiencing of using gum turpentine to get rid of biofilm in guts and lungs. After reading Bill's book on candida, I was eager to try this missing ingredient for a cure.

Have a lot more energy now, thank you Bill!

The pinacea is the panacea.

Also found this document about the use of turpentine in Haarlemmerolie: http://www.haarlemmerolie.nl/images/Haarlemmerolie/english-user-manual-haarlemmerolie.pdf

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Posted by Sundawg (Ga, Usa) on 10/01/2014

I'm new to this conversation, but I have ordered 4oz of turpentine from G Forest as well and it smells so so so good. I just absolutely love it. I used to take it with sugar but now lately I haven't been taking it internally. I made a cream of just virgin coconut oil and some turp in it, and have been applying it religiously to my finger. I burnt it on my mower at least 2 months ago and it has been real wrinkly looking and then I ended up getting a blister there and it made it worse.

Well after applying that coconut/terp to it it is finally starting to heal very nicely.

Also I have been using the terp in an enema and have been getting out lots of trash, some looks like flukes. They are light green in color and looks like dried grape skins or tomato skins. I only use about 5 drops at a time, but it seems to work well. Although I haven't been able to find much info on this subject, so I tried it with success.

Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn Usa) on 01/01/2013

HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN, , , , , , ,

Spent several days on the computer searching for kerosene that can be ingested. Found the 100 % Gum Sperit Turpentine for my Candida treatment and while on that trek, I ran across lots of articles about kerosene to cure cancer. Can anyone shed any light on that kind of kerosene. I have keorsene lanterns, heaters and always have industrial kerosene on hand. Our early ancestors used both to stay healthy. I remember my Granddad used Coal Oil for a poisonous snake bite. He lived to be 88. Appreciate any input you may have on both oils. =======RH=========

Replied by Timh Donate

Louisville, Ky, Usa
01/02/2013
Robert Henry: Took my first dose (2 sugar cubes saturated) of 100% Turpentine Dec 29. Got a little heavy aftertaste in the gut fallowing, so I air-popped some corn w/ added sunflower oil & sea salt, fallowed by lemon water (increase the bile flow) and woke up latter in the night feeling unusually light. What improvement I noticed that night has seemed to carry on until now. After only one dose I have been telling myself, albeit w/ some reserve, "I've found a new and powerful ally. "

I am planning another dose tomorrow. Maybe to early to draw any conclusions but compared to the effect of other natural anti-pathogens like Grapefruitseed, Olive Leaf, Neem, Oregano, the Turpentine appears waaay more powerful. I guess it all comes down to potency and Turpentine is a highly distilled pure grade. I experienced no herx or die-off to speak of, although I do use lots of fiber and take peroxide cleansing enemas daily. I also found the taste not at all unpleasant, as-a-matter-of-fact, one might add a dropper to a citrus drink enjoyable.

Replied by Rsw
Uniontown, Oh
01/03/2013
Hi Robert Henry, I noticed a man from the LDN Yahoo Group who is taking kerosene along with Lufenuron (aka dimilin, apparently) to rid himself of candida. (which worked very well) He said he bought it at Lowe's home center, 1K grade, mostly free of sulfur for about $10/gal and takes it (1 T, I believe, but not 100% certain) three times a week. I have no knowledge about the safety of this. He also has cancer and has written interesting protocols he has developed for it, most recently using HCL and water. You might like to join this group and type in the search word kerosene and you will be able to talk to him directly and privately through his email if you hit reply. Best wishes!
Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/12/2014
Hello Robert Henry from Ten Mile Tn:

I trust many people here at EC. However, there's one particular person that's gained my full trust. That person is Bill Thompson. Take a look at his view on turpentine. It's the absolute fastest & best way to get rid of candida & its bio-films. The turpentine just needs to be taken at appropriate doses.

There's going to be detox from this stuff. It's a given! I've been on it myself but I get worse detox symptoms from iodine than I do from turpentine. Turpentine is absolutely safe! This stuff can cure a lot of diseases! I totally trust Bill & his research!

Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
01/12/2014
Robert Henry from Ten Mile ---it' me, Om

I actually agree with the oil/sulphur treatment in YOUR times. Henry, but now the oil is carcinogenic and destroys tissue, causing severe health problems.

I remember a post where a woman tried to heal her dog of mange by seeing the vet. As often, nothing brought on a cure. Then someone reported her when they saw the dog's condition which brought her to court and the result was she was forced to buy the useless vet treatments. It got up my heckles. As a rescue person I have had a few times to answer for ignorasmusses who would rather kill an animal than bring it back on the road to health. So, I think in your times this was a successful cure and I am glad.

I have purchased pure turpentine but cannot come up with where to buy sulphur powder. So meanwhile I will buy NEWSTOCK from feed store which guarantees freedom from mite.

I strongly go along with some old time remedies which are practised even now in Europe. As a next thing I want to mention re your treatment of "intruders" and what to do to them: The Lord gave us free will to do as we please, with ONE condition : face up to the consequences! The key word is KARMA. Namaste, Om And all the bet.

Replied by Prioris
Fl
01/12/2014
When I took milk thistle 20 years ago, it caused me to go into a very deep depression. I tried it on and off and had same reaction. Never knew why. Sometime in last 10 years, I have been able to take it without any problems. So these problems can happen with non turpenine stuff also.
Replied by Sami
Tx, Usa
01/13/2014
Just an FYI in ref. to your comment about finding sulphur powder. I have been using the MSM (crystals) from local farm/feed store. (can't name brands/stoes on this site) Same type can be ordered on line manyonline pet or feed type websites. I researched this in the last year and it is as close to organic sulphur as you can get with out paying high priced of regular organic sulphur. This product is the crystal type product that looks very similar to like Epsom salts. I usually dissolve in water and use as a topical or consume depending on what the illness/wound treatment. The brand I get is 99% with no other fillers. In the past I was buying drug store capsules and breaking/empty to dissolve in water but it can have many fillers and sulphur can be picky and may be less effective if mixed with some chemicals. I think I paid about $12 for 2lbs just to give you and idea. Other organic sulphurs on the net sold for human consumption can cost you $50 and up. Works great and there are several brands/mfg so just look at the labels to make sure you get purest with out all the fillers. I think the crystals could be hand ground if you need powder.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/16/2014
1164 Posts
Just some more information on Turpentine. In a recent email to me, Mr Prakash, whose son has severe parasite, candida and bacterial infections, describes the progress his son has made while using turpentine.

The newer research confirms that it is the toxins from the parasites and candida that interfers with a child's brain development which causes various autism spectrum disorders. So it therefore becomes paramount to rid Mr Prakash's son of these parasites and candida in order for his autism problems to improve. Mr Prakash has only been using the turpentine protocol for just over a month. Here is how he describes turpentine's effects against parasites, candida and biofilms in a recent email:

"My son has been making a steady progress [on MMS] with 1-2 worms/biofim per week. But after using Turp, has expelled almost twice as often. His behavioral gains were also very drastic. Another parent who has not seen any biofilm/worm for 3 months has started seeing worms and biofilm after a week on Turpentine

...Turp is Turpentine. It's made from pure gum spirits of pine trees. It's very effective against Biofilm/Candida which is the missing link in our [Autism] recovery protocols. It was used as a home remedy in olden days."

I also know that many people seem to have unfounded fears about turpentine that seem to me to be unjustified. And here's why:

If you look up the MSDS for gum turpentine they will never have any toxicity research available on the LD50 levels for rats or rabbits. However, if you can find an MSDS for turpentine that occurs before 1999 (when turpentine was suddenly banned as a poison for no good reason) then you will see that it has an LD50 (median kill) level on rats and rabbits of over 5000 mgs/kg. Now compare this LD50 value against the LD50 for ordinary table salt (2600 mgs/kg) and you will see that turpentine is almost two times safer (as a poison) than ordinary table salt.

Furthermore, the LD50 for turpentine is 5000 mgs/kg which means that a man weighing 100 kgs would need to drink 500 mls -- or two glass fulls -- of turpentine to cause death.

I'm only recommending one teaspoon of turpentine a day for adults.

References

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

Replied by Earth Clinic Follower
Usa
01/17/2014
Bill, what is the MMS spoken of in this thread? And adults could safely take kerosene/turpentine at a teaspoon a day? Is there a maximum time and would you need to stop for awhile and start again? Is one better than the other as far as taking kerosene versus turpentine. Thank you
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/17/2014
1164 Posts
Hi Healthseeker...MMS is Miracle Mineral Solution or Chlorine Dioxide that was discovered by Jim Hubble. It is a pro-oxidant (rather than anti-oxidant) method of destroying pathogens. This means that it uses its free radical properties to kill pathogens. MMS is very similar to hydrogen peroxide in this respect. Unfortunately, if you are using any form of pro-oxidant protocol like MMS or hydrogen peroxide, this will always tend to deplete the anti-oxidants in your body. Generally, MMS reduces the body's anti-oxidants because pro-oxidants will always tend to react with any anti-oxidants which would tend to cancel out each other's beneficial effects.

This is why, when supplementing MMS and hydrogen peroxide, you must never take any anti-oxidants at the same time. And this is one of the reasons why MMS only tends to be effective in the body for less than an hour -- because the body naturally tends to get rid of free radicals quickly.

Turpentine is an anti-oxidant protocol that tends to kill many forms of pathogens. Turpentine therefore does not tend to deplete anti-oxidants and therefore lasts for a much longer amount of time in the body. In Mr Prakash's usage of turpentine/MMS for his young son, I also strongly advised that he should alternate the MMS and turpentine protocols on a week on, week off basis -- you should never use MMS and turpentine at he same time.

There seems to be little or no difference between kerosene and turpentine in terms of its content or healing qualities. I also believe that turpentine is the stronger verson of the two(higher iso-pinene content). I also tend to recommend turpentine because its easy -- just look for pure gum spirit of turpentine. There are many equivalents to kerosene -- mineral oils, paraffin, white spirit etc. This tends to be confusing. But turpentine is turpentine -- just look for turpentine made from the pure sap of pine trees with no additives.

Work up to the one teaspoon dose over a week or more. Start with a 1/4 teaspoon of turps. After you have been on this protocol for a month then take a rest for about a week from the protocol. And if you have serious candida issues then you will probably get Herx or die-off. If this happens then just take a day off from the protocol and do it like that.

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc, Canada
01/18/2014
See JIM HUMBLE website. Not Jim Hubble.

Posted by Susan (New York) on 09/12/2012

Bill from San Fernando, as usual your postings always educational. Below is the link from UK on turpentine.

http://www.oldtimeremedies.co.uk/labels/turpentine.html

Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 09/11/2012 | 1164 Posts

Due to my difficult experience with trying to help Asians and Africans as well as people from India and Pakistan with candida problems who cannot afford these nutrients, I have had to go herbal to help them which creates other difficulties. In the Philippines, the average wage is about 150 pesos per day or $3.60 per day. So, for a Filipino who has systemic candida to spend perhaps $16.00 or more on a small bottle of lugols iodine -- this is just not reasonable or possible. Similarly, for an average Filipino to be able to afford organic food is simply not possible or realistic because of the cost. As you can imagine, this has frustrated me somewhat in my efforts to help these people.

As a result of all these problems, I've been trying for some time to find another candida remedy that is easy to take, that kills candida quickly and is relatively cheap and easy to obtain.

And I think that I've found a cheaper nutrient (historically and widely used in the past) that does indeed kill candida rapidly in the intestines, blood and organs plus it does so much more. This substance is known by various synonyms: spirit oil of pines, spirit of gum turpentine or kerosene are some of the names.

There is not alot of research on these fractionated oils as supplemented oils but in the 1899 version of the Merck Manual the following has been recorded as oil of pine's supplemented benefits and are of interest:

gonorrhea

meningitis

lung disease

arthritis

abdominal problems

This list goes on and on.

Odd therefore, that in the 1990 Merck Manual and after more than 100 years of wide successful use, the above description for turpentine was radically changed to describe turpentine as very poisonous.

I guess that turpentine spirit, very much like the broadband pathogen-killing abilities of lugols iodine and hydrgogen peroxide, scared the medical research establishment with its apparently unassailable healing qualities.

Some of the constituents of turpentine:

Benefits of alpha-pinenes:

Lipophilic
Bactericidal
Fungicidal
Insecticidal
Pesticidal
Anticarcinogenic (cytotoxic on cancer cells)
Diuretic
Antioxidant
Immunostimulant
Anti-inflammatory
Anti-convulsive
Sedative
Anti-stress
Hypoglycaemic
Capable of expelling xenobiotics
Anticholinesterase activity

Benefits of beta-pinenes:

Lipophilic
Bactericidal
Fungicidal
Insecticidal
Acting against osteoclasts
Anticarcinogenic (cytotoxic on cancer cells)
Pesticidal
Antioxidant
Sedative

Source:http://test.imp.lodz.pl/upload/oficyna/artykuly/pdf/full/--04_09_Mercier.pdf

Oil of pines or turpentine also contains significant amounts d-limonene, cavicol, terpenes, acetic acid and butyric acid. I am not going to descrbe the benefits of these, not enough space, but -- from all the evidence and testimonials that I've read, it appears that turpentine or kerosene kills candida very rapidly in the intestines and in the blood/organs. Other effects -- it cures arthritis because oil of pines also kills mycoplasma and is also anti-cancer. It is a wonderful anti-inflammatory and a safe pain killer. In short, spirit of gum turpentine appears to be strongly anti-candida, anti-cancer, anti-mycoplasma, antibacterial, antifungal, antivirus and anti-parasitic. With the possible exceptions of iodine and hydrogen peroxide I really don't know of any other single nutrient that has these broadband anti-pathogen killing effects. It simply doesn't get better than that. No wonder then that the 1990 Merck Manual decided to trash it -- how could their drugs compete with that!!

You can read all about the evidence and testimonials here:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/11136827/2098715122/name/Turpentine-The_Candida_Cleaner -Dr. Daniels.pdf

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html

http://www.rethinkingcancer.org/resources/magazine-articles/7_9-10/kerosene.php

I must admit that I haven't tried distilled oil of pines yet, due to the difficulties of getting the properly distilled oil, but I fully intend to take it for about four weeks or so (as recommended by Dr Daniels as the ultimate cleanse and blood purifier ) to see and understand its effects. For this reason, I hesitate to actually recommend it here as a cure for candida or anything else yet.

In respect of all the above on the health properties of turpentine or kerosene, I therefore have a request to everyone reading this.

Could you please ask your grandparents -- grandfathers or grandmothers -- whether their parents or granparents ever used oil of pines, turpentine or kerosene as a regular body cleanser or healer of diseases etc.? And could you report anything you find out back here on EC? Turpentine/Kerosene was supplemented widely in America and Europe before the 1900s. I'm really wanting to know dosages and effects on people who have regularly used turpentine or kerosene for healing specific diseases.

I will also be obtaining some turpentine or spirits of gum turpentine(hopefully with a low boiling point of 100 - 150 degrees C) to test out internally on myself soon and will report back its effects, good or bad, when I can.

Many thanks.

Replied by Lisa
Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa
09/11/2012
Hi Bill, I just want to thank you for your posts. This one is amazing! I am always learning from what you have to pass on. It's also always interesting to see the information which is withheld from the masses to prevent self-help in our healthcare. This is why it is so important to have a forum such as Earth Clinic to get the information out there so we, the people, can make an educated decision regarding our path we would like to pursue for ourselves.

Again, thank you always for your very informative and educational posts! May you be blessed always, Lisa

Replied by Suzy
Eugene, Or
09/11/2012
Bill--- you asked about turpentine. My Great - Grandmother once described in her memoir that her mother (Norwegian Immigrant) used it to treat them for head lice. Nits were removed. The hair was combed with a comb dipped in turpentine scrapung the scalp a bit then braided.

She also discussed a mixture of pitch and turpentine that was always kept near the stove (to stay soft) This was used for cuts and scrapes.

My great grandmother's younger sister was struck in the face with a double bladed axe and her nose was hanging by skin. My great grandmother claimed her mother put the nose back in place and covered the affected area liberally with the pitch mixture. I doubted this story as a child. Once when my great great aunt was visiting I asked to see her nose... I this was over 80 years later... My great great aunt bore only a tiny white line all around her nose!

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/11/2012
1164 Posts
Some more of my own thoughts on supplementing turpentine or kerosene.

Bye the way, paraffin is also a similar form or synonym for kerosene but I have avoided using it because of the pink and blue parrafin forms used in UK and Australia respectively. These coloured forms are definitely not healthy to ingest due to the additives which are used to colour them. There is also paraffin oil which is used medicinally for constipation in UK but this form does not have the same notable chemical benefits of supplementing turpentine.

Whenever a plant is damaged by an act of God or by animals, fungus, bacteria etc, the plant has its own immune system which produces a group of substances that both defend the injury against pathogen invasion and heal the damaged area. This group of chemicals that are secreted by plants has been given a name -- salvestrols. Resveratrol is a typical example of a salvestrol. If you like, salvestrols are equivalent to our own antibodies.

Production of pine resin is also a response to injury for a pine tree and this resin contains a whole host of salvestrols to defend the plant against further damaging pathogen attack and to help seal the injury.

There appears to be two significant areas of beneficial activity in how turpentine actually works in our bodies. The first area is the intestines -- where gum of turpentine's strongly anti-pathogenic actvities come into play. Secondly is the major and unparalleled blood purifying activity that these oils seem to have once they get into the blood. Therefore and concerning this, Walter Last advises that small amounts of the thinner oil forms -- the ones with lower boiling points of between 100 and 150 degrees C -- will be absorbed easily through the stomach with their main area of action being in the blood. As such, we have the thicker turpentine distilled oil forms -- those which have their boiling points up to 200 degrees C, which have more action in the intestines because these are not so easily absorbed into the blood from the stomach. So what would be most advantageous is to take a turpentine form that is equally beneficial to the intestines and blood. To this end and to get the thinner turpentine forms(with a lower B P) of turpentine into the intestines, Walter Last suggests adding a second thicker oil -- say oil of paraffin or castor oil -- to ensure that the turpentine is carried directly into the intestines from the stomach. Dr Jennifer Daniels advises taking the lower boiling point or thinner form with sugar in order to ensure that at least some of the turpentine gets into the intestines. The low boilling point forms seem to be the best ones to supplement because many of the aromatics, such as aldehydes, which are not good for the body, have already been removed by distilled separation.

Replied by Lucena
Dubai, UAE
09/12/2012
RE: KEROSENE CURE To begin with I was born (1948) in a remote little town in the Philippines where tap water and electricity was too expensive. At night we used kerosene lamp, the simplest method we used by using a pepsi bottle with the holed cap for the cotton wick, the used kerosene and mom's home made coconut oil mix was used whenever we kids got cold/cough. Before bedtime, she rubbed on our throat, chest and back, then covered our body with flannel, throat wrapped with hankerchief to keep warm and off to bed.. The next morning or after a couple of mornings.. Cold/cough gone. Until my mom was in her eighties.. she was using this mixture to cure her cold/cough. She never take OTC cough syrups.

Their life style was very simple/close to nature.. Whole life drinking spring water, cooking in clay pots using wood for fire, never used stainless or aluminum pans/ pots, for frying they used an iron wok which is seldom used since cooking oil is expensive. Anothe habit was weekly swim in the sea, planted their own veggies. My parents did not know what is processed/fast food.The different life style between my mom and her sister(she lived in manila most of her life) resulted to breast cancer death while my mom died of traffic accident at the age of 80 with no illness while my father who drunk local coconut wine in his youth died of kidney failure at the age of 84.

I wish I could have a life like my parents which is impossible now that I am living in dubai a place where almost nothing is natural.

keep up the good work Bill.. God Bless Us.
Replied by Timh Donate

Louisville, Ky, Usa
09/12/2012
First, thanks to Louwrence from Rustenburg for your reply to my post (i almost overlooked it) w/ the Walter Last link to this seemingly great anti-pathogen cure-all. Now thanks to Bill for his interest in the possibilities of these substances as medicine.

My recent results from using other natural anti-pathogens like Colloidal Silver and MMS have been mixed, but I never really sustained any kind of therapeutic level or doses. One big reason for my lack of commitment is the fact that both these agents are known reducing agents of not only bad pathogens but also good endogenous Glutathione enzymes. With an already damaged Glutathione production problem just kinda leaves me more than a little discouraged on these.

So, the Turpentine or Kerosene agents seem very promising except the administration. Question: have not any other routes of administration been tried as it first seems somewhat disgusting drinking these compounds, and also absorption problems?

Replied by Tina
Princeton, New Jersey
09/12/2012
Hi Bill, I read your comment about kerosine and remembered the cab driver who picked us from the airport last week on our return from India. Noticing our cold and coughs, he related a story of his grandmother, who had come to the US from East Europe: she once cured him of a severe bout of cough by making him drink milk with a few drops of kerosine in it. I listened to this story in disbelief, although I didn't let on, since he was such a dear, polite man. Kerosine, when I was growing in India, was used as a fuel for stoves in the kitchen. In fact, those tragic 'dowry deaths' where North Indian brides are burnt by being set on fire use kerosine! The cab driver, who said he was in his seventies, says he never suffered from such severe cough again. Reading your information now, I am beginning to revise my opinion. Thanks!
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/12/2012
1164 Posts
Hi Suzy... Much thanks and God Bless you for your speedy response to my request. It seems that there is no end to the benefits of turps and kerosene oils.

Some more info on my meditations on the usefulness of Turps and Kerosene distillates. I'm sure many here would be horrified at me saying or even admitting that these oils are also used as paint thinners and varnish removers.

But that's the whole point isn't it? -- That is one of the biggest benefits of these oils. To illustrate this I'll just tell a true story. I read a magazine article, a long time ago, where a very famous gastro-intestinal surgeon was being interviewed. The interviewer asked all the usual questions -- but I really became interested when the surgeon said outright that, in all his 35 years as a gastro surgeon -- and during all this time -- he admitted that he had never ever seen what he would describe as a healthy pink inner intestines. Instead, he described most of the inner surface of the intestines he had seen "as having a smooth dark grey appearance, as if the villi surfaces had been varnished...". When asked what had caused this dark grey varnished look by the interviewer, the emminent gastro shot back without any hestation at all -- "Unquestionably it was due to excess vegetable oils in the diet."

I've aleady said that Turpentine and Kerosene are used as capable solvents to get rid of and dissolve varnish -- so the benefits of these oils wrt removing the intestine's inner varnish (caused by these chemically processed, oxidized vegetable oils) should be more than clear now. As well, the health benefits for both your intestines and your nutritional pathways arising from this should also be fairly obvious.

Replied by Baldev
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
09/13/2012
Hi Bill, I want to say you are simply "GREAT". I appreciate, the pains you take to find the information and put it on this site. It is a treat to read your and Ted's articles/reports. I have a suggestion, on this site there should be way by which one could get on to the page where one can read whatever Ted and you have so far written on this site. Because it is a pleasure to read, it gives lot of knowledge. I try to pass on and help people who are ignorent about what good alternate methods can do to their health. God Bless You. Baldev
Replied by Citygirl27
Richardson, Tx, Usa
09/14/2012
To Bill or anyone in the Philippines: I have a friend that is headed to the Philippines tomorrow, for a few weeks. Is there anywhere there he can get this pine spirit oil? Rather amusing about the Merck documentation, ha. Also, to take the chance to get things, what else should I send him back with? I seem to remember hearing of different effective things that aren't costly there, that are hard/impossibe to get in the US, but they are scattered all throughout EC website. Thanks for whatever you can suggest.
Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/15/2012
1164 Posts
Hi CityGirl32... The right forms of Turpentine or Kerosene for supplementation are described in an article by Walter Last shown here:

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

You should also easily be able to buy some of these forms of turps or kerosene -- if not all of them -- quite easily within the US or from the internet.

I would also not advise that your friend brings turpentine back to the US from the Philippines in their luggage because this might cause her some considerable trouble -- turpentine is a flammable solvent and is definitely not allowed on planes now and the airport checks on people coming into America are also fairly rigorous now. So perhaps better and less trouble all round just to order this off the internet or buy within America itself if you can.

Also my warm thanks to Lucena, Suzy, Trina -- and any others that I've missed out-- for posting some wonderful info on the use of Turpentine as a healer.

Replied by Timh Donate

Louisville, Ky, Usa
09/15/2012
Among the top culprits of "bad" vegetable oils is: Trans Fatty Acids, Hydrogenated Veg. Oil like margarine, and V. Oils that have gone rancid. I use very little V. Oil and hardly ever cook with it, but I do add one cap 250mg BHT, one 8,000 iu Vit-A, and one 400 iu mixed natural tocopherols to 1 bottle mixed Veg oil. I supplement Fish Oil softgels as well as Flax Seed Oil softgels and sometimes either Borage or Evening Primrose Oil.

And of course we now have the GMO's to contend with.

Replied by Kevin
Mars
09/07/2013
Hey Bill,

Thanks for your great research, it's really helped me a lot. I managed to find the right Turpentine with a boiling point of 165 degrees C. Does this mean it will be absorbed into the blood from the stomach; As Turpentine with lower boiling points do (i.e., between 100?C and 150?C) or will it have more action the intestines as you mentioned about Turpentine with boiling points up to 200?C ? Have you found a Turpentine with a boiling point in the lower range? Sorry. I know I'm showing up late to the party.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
09/09/2013
1164 Posts
Hi Kevin... There are several ways to supplement turpentine. I either supplement a teaspoon of turpentine with a teaspoon of either molasses or raw honey, mix them in my mouth, then down it with some water. You can also take the turpentine with sugar. Or I just take the teaspoon of turpentine with just some water.

If you have candida or intestinal problems then perhaps it is better to take the turpentine with sugar, molasses or honey just before meals. Then less turpentine gets absorbed directly into the blood from the stomach and most of the turps gets carried by the food into the intestines where it is most needed to get rid of the candida.

Taking the turpentine or kerosene with water or milk on an empty stomach, where it is more directly absorbed into the blood, is mainly the way that people in eastern Europe take this remedy. This method -- which acts to purify the blood -- seems to be very effective against disease outside the intestines like many and varous cancers, tuberculosis, leukemia, diabetes, sepsis etc. See this link.

As to your question, I've been using pine oil(essential oil) derived from Scots Pine (Pinus sylvestris) for the last six months. I have not been able to find any respectable turpentine or kerosene in the Philippines yet. However, Walter Last recommends several types and brands of turpentine or kerosene that can be used here in this article.

Replied by Christine
Nottingham, Uk
09/10/2013
I read with interesting article post by Bill regarding Turpentine. It made me think about the connection to Limonene, which is extracted from orange peel and contains turpentine. It is also used as an industrial cleaner. I use it for digestive issues and mucus problems. I wounded whether it help by killing fungus and parasites. Does anyone know? My best wishers to everyone. Christine
Replied by Ed2010
Canada
09/10/2013
Hi Bill,

When you refer kerosene for turpentine. It reminds me of the hydrocarbon liquid fuel distilled from Petroleum. Of course both are different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene. Kerosene is used as fuel for home cooking in rural regions of india and by the lower income people. Thanks

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, The Philippines
09/10/2013
1164 Posts
Hi Christine... Turpentine or distilled pine oil contains many terpenes -- of which limonene is just one. Pine oil usually contains about 0. 5% - 2% limonene content. The major constituents of pine oil are alpha- and beta-pinenes(also terpenes). The many health characteristics and benefits of the pinene content of pine oil are defined in this link.

The most interesting aspect of its healing properties is that turpentine is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, anti-mycolasma, anti-viral and anti-parasitic. As well, these pinenes remove candida and bacterial biofilms quickly due to its solvent properties as a paint stripper. Pinenes can also expel xenobiotics -- they act to remove poisons and foreign drugs from the body.

I also must relate an interesting story and side-effect concerning my own use of pine oil. About six or seven months ago, just before starting to use and road-test the pine oil, I had a tooth capped because my gums had receded and the tooth roots were exposed. After I had this done, about a week later, the tooth roots became well infected and started to ache and it just got worse and worse. This tooth also became very loose and wobbly and I thought that I would eventually have to have the tooth pulled. I certainly did not want to loose this back tooth.

Then I started my experiment with supplementing about 8 - 12 drops of pine oil every day with a teaspoon of molasses or raw honey or with a glass of water.

After about a month into this protocol I noticed that the tooth pain or infection had gone away completely. The tooth and roots had also firmed up considerably.

So, as a result of this discovery and every night before bed, I would just put two drops of turpentine on my finger, wipe it on my tongue and spread it around my mouth with my tongue. I would not drink any water -- I would just leave the drops of pine oil in my mouth overnight. This was the last thing I did before my head hit the pillow.

First thing in the morning when I woke up, I noticed that my saliva or spit was thin and not sour, thick and mucusy. Also and amazingly -- no bad breath. This was all evidence to me that pine oil was successful and useful at killing bad bacteria in the mouth.

By putting just two drops on the tongue before sleep and keeping it in the mouth overnight, this will also have other minor benefits. During the night, the saliva and pine oil will naturally travel down the esophagus to the stomach -- effectively and gently disinfecting these regions overnight. As well and as you sleep, the pine oil vapour would also travel to the nose and lungs -- also helping to kill pathogens in these regions.

I can now crunch hard seeds and nuts with my once-infected back tooth. I also believe that taking two drops of pine oil every night helps to remove biofilms on the teeth, kills plaque bacteria and prevents gingivitis, thus improving and healing both the gums and teeth. I was also quite surprised but particularly pleased that pine oil successfully and completely cured both the infected tooth and the pain.

For myself, I will continue to use pine oil in this simple manner as a regular nightly protocol to help keep my teeth and gums healthy.

Replied by Tom
Qld
10/04/2013
I have been looking at the uses etc on the kerosine and noted that the colouring added to our kerosine may be a problem... however the following product is clear.. http://www.recochem.com.au/files/downloads/Industrial_Kerosene_Clear_PDS_Apr10.pdf

Perhaps one of your readers may advise on the use of this product. Tom


EC: Not sure about kerosene, but medicinal turpentine can be found if you search Google under: "Medicinal Turpentine" or "Turpentine Gum Spirits".

We've seen the following old-time remedy sold in grocery stores and pharmacies throughout the USA: http://www.amazon.com/Humco-Turpentine-Gum-Spirits-Oz/dp/B001V9X8ZI

Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
12/16/2013
Strange as it seems, suddenly I remember way back us kids in kindergarten in Europe. Whenever a child had cough or respiratory trouble, the nuns that ran the kindergarten gave us a sugar cube drenched with a black substance that did taste quite ok, perhaps with a faint resemblance to liquorice but not quite..

I remember the taste and was wondering what it might have been. Well, on reading Walter Last and other posts I know it was the good old stuff that did the trick. No wonder big pharma is trying to demonize it! Om

Replied by Redtulip
Nz
05/23/2014
Kerosine for internal use must be purified. In Russia people use Todicamp (kerosine with green hull walnut) but you have to be very careful when choosing manufacturer. The best one comes from the inventor's son Andrey Todica.
Replied by Cheryl
Vancouver, Bc
10/28/2014
@Tom Qld That turpentine wouldn't be good. It has a boiling point of 145-260. In this link http://totaltruth.ca/pdf/Kerosene it says the ones with higher boiling points aren't effective for purifying the blood but may clean the large intestine. The Recochem manufacturer provides a few turpentines and the one that is the best is the Pure Turpentine Bio Option one. It has a boiling point of 150-180C. This is the one most used. If you live in Canada you can get it at Canadian Tire.
Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
10/28/2014
Cheryl (Vancouver, BC) ---

The Recochem product you mention landed me in hospital. It is not 100%. Then I ordered from Georgia, USA, the Forest product which is awesome. Expensive postage but well worth it.

Just to make sure, no one ingests the Recochem product, not even externally. I only used it externally and was overcome with the fumes and the effect on my skin which started to vibrate all over the body.

Namaste, Om

Inhaling Turpentine Vapors   2  0   

Posted by Dlangdado (Cookeville Tn) on 12/10/2013

I've got two aunts in their 80's and take no prescription medicine and are fairly active for the age. They swear by inhaling turpentine esp in the winter to prevent flu. They also take a few drops on their tongue from time to time. They have got some old bottles of turpentine and it reads rectified and it gives the dosage that can be taken. Has anyone else heard of inhaling the vapors to prevent any illness?

Replied by Janis
Hillsboro, Oregon
01/18/2014
[YEA]   In our family we have always used it to cure sore throats. Take a deep breath (so you will be exhaling, swab a little on the back of your throat, then take a spoon full of honey, sugar or jelly. It's the best relief for a sore throat I've ever taken.
Replied by Helpyourself
Texas, Usa
01/19/2014
What brand is it?
Replied by Sami
Tx, Usa
01/19/2014
In ref to brand names for Turpentins I guess we are not allowed to name or use links. I heard of this organic product made in the USA on a holistic radio show. Google these words Diamond and Forest and Turpentine and you will find some quality products. I have the local hardware store brand at home but plan on ordering the organic type soon.
Replied by Karolina
Toronto, Canada
06/14/2014
Hey there! Quick question about the medicinal kerosene... Anyone know where I could purchase this product? I understand through doing some research that this kerosene has to be processes at a very high temperature to be safe to ingest. Does anyone here know any sources who sell this in Toronto? If not here, then where?
Thanks!!
Replied by Sacral.Chakra
U.S.A.
11/16/2014
[YEA]   I wish we could post an avatar or photo here of a couple very old steel vintage pharmacy signs for pure gum spirits turpentine with the dosages for internal use written on them. They appear to be from the early 1900's era. One is from a pharmacy in Hartford New York & the other from a pharmacy in Roseburg Oregon. Turpentine was definitely a common cure-all back in the day.
Replied by Karen
Louisiana
06/27/2015
Is there a way you can post a picture of the old bottles? I would love to see them and be able to read the labels. Thanks, :)

Kerosense vs. Turpentine vs. Lamp Oil   0  0   

Posted by Om (Hope Bc Canada) on 01/11/2014

To Bill of the Philipines from Om

Bill, would you be so good and help me with the above.

I bought "pure turpentine" for self administration. I also read up extensively but am still confused. Then there is lamp oil. And the warning on the back of the products! I want to start as soon as possible as my liver is making trouble. Am vegan. Vegetarian most of my adult life. Never alcohol or drugs. No pharmaceuticals except a brief spell with insulin which I have ditched. Minimal amount of sugar, rather honey. Veggies and nuts, some fruits. Some B vits, Zeolite and lots of Amla with turmeric. Also hemp seeds and green drinks.

The one I bought here in Canada says Bio-Option, pure turpentine. Danger. Or should it be kerosene?

Please let me know you opinion. Thanks, Namaste, Om


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