Turpentine and Kerosene Remedies

Turpentine Carrier Oil  

Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 03/10/2015

Hi Bill,

Since I have a gallbladder problem and are unable to digest fats (any fatty foods cause instant diarrhea and terrible abdominal pain) I am a bit concerned about taking turpentine with castor oil. Is there any other carrier I can use? I am also wondering why do I have the gallbladder problem. Scan has shown that I have a small cyst in my gallbladder, but I am sure it is not a stone because I have a good low-fat diet. However, my gallbladder function is definitely compromised, it seems like it does not produce enough bile to digest fatty foods.

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando
1245 posts

Hi Marcin...If you are wary of the castor oil in the turpentine remedy then just take the turpentine with sugar or molasses. Take a teaspoon of sugar or molasses into your mouth first then add the turpentine and mix them together. Then swallow it and chase it down with some water.

Since you have a suspect gall bladder problem, I would also take Chanca piedra(CP) tea 3 or 4 times a day. CP will help to dissolve and remove any gallstone or kidney stone. CP also acts to reduce calcium in the blood. Cysts always contain calcium which is usually due to high calcium levels in the blood and body. CP will also help to reduce calcium levels in the blood. It will also reduce blood sugar, blood pressure and blood fats. I would also try and reduce dairy(excess calcium) in your diet which always tends to promote cysts and stones in the body. Taking magnesium citrate (250 mgs twice a day) should also help to regulate your body calcium back to healthier levels again. Lugol's Iodine(50 mgs per day) will also help to get rid of cysts and tumors but I think that you are already taking this one.

Replied by Marcin
Toronto, Canada

Thank you for the advice, but I just realized I had made a mistake in my post. What I have in my gallbladder is not a cyst, but a polyp. But I guess that CP might still be of help because of its bile duct relaxing properties.

Replied by Serlinia
Capiz, Philippines

Bill, Where can I purchase Lugols iodine in the Philippines?

Replied by Gratitude
Northeast, Usa

Hi Bill,

First, that booklet "A Cure for a Penny" by Frye was such a wonderful read. I hope many take the time to read it; so inspiring!

What else can I take turpentine in? I know castor oil is recommended and why or on sugar but what other options? In juice? In almond milk?

Thanks in advance!

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Gratitude...There are many ways to take turpentine and it really depends where you want it to act as an anti-microbial in your body. If you take it with an oil like olive oil or VCO then generally it will act partially in the intestines as well as in the blood. But its better to use castor oil in my opinion because CO is also a laxative so it travels through the intestines quickly -- carrying the turps with it from end to end. This is a good way to disinfect your intestines if you have problems there like candida.

I'm not quite sure why Dr Daniels only specifically recommends taking turps with sugar cubes of a specific size. If, as she insists, the old US slaves of that period used turps as an all-round remedy then I'm pretty sure they must've used either cane syrup, molasses or honey in combination with the turps. Cubed sugar wasn't invented and mass produced until 1873(by Tate and Lyle), which was some time after the US slave period.

I have also used a teaspoon of turps with a tspn of honey or molasses washed down with some water and used a tspn of turps with about 1/4 glass of plain water to help kill pathogens in the blood. I have read in the US Dispensatory(1847) and in the British Pharmacopia(1914) where turpentine was commonly used as a steam inhalant with boiling water and was also used as an enema together with a small amount of natural soap(not detergent).

Also found an interesting passage in the Merck Medical Manual of 1899. Here's an extract for turpentine:

Chian, Turpentine, Merck.

Thick, tenacious, greenish-yellow liq.; peculiar penetrating odor; Uses: Extern. cancerous growths.

Turpentine. Canada -- USP

Balsam of fir. Uses chiefly extern. -- Dose 5--30 grn., in pill.

I also found many entries for Sodium Borate(Borax), Iodine, Potassium Iodide and Hydrogen Peroxide.

Replied by Sue
St. Jospeh, Mi

Hi, where can I find the book, A Cure for a Penny?

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

He Sue...You can find the book by Dr Charles Oscar Frye here.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe

Bill, you quote from Merck: Uses: Extern. cancerous growths. Have you ever heard of it being used successfully this way?

Replied by Sue
St. Jospeh, Mi

Thanks Bill

Turpentine Contraindications  

Posted by Emma (Wa, Usa) on 01/05/2015

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this site (and turpentine) and I decided to join because this looks like a good place for valid information regarding turpentine usage. I know that turpentine is xenobiotic and I am on a couple of Rx meds. Does anyone know what the timing/spacing should be?

I have lyme and co-infections and would like to know if anyone is using turpentine for the same reason, and if successes/failures can be shared.

I appreciate any input.

Replied by Susan
Louisiana, US

I'm curious if the turpentine has helped lyme? I've got it and I'm researching alt treatments.

Posted by Denise (Seattle) on 01/10/2014

Hello Bill, I've seen many of your posts about turpentine. I am considering taking it with regard to multiple pain issues. I also have hepatitis-c and peripheral neuropathy...Will this bother either of my issues? My concern is... if it strips off paint from a wall, will it bother my myelin sheath? Thank you very much...

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Denise...Supplementing Turpentine has the effect of cleansing the bowels and purifying the blood. I have never read any research where turpentine has ever caused damage to nerves. The neuropathy problem that you mention is usually normally caused by the Hepatitis C virus.

The symptoms you might experience are a wooziness and drowsiness when you take too much turpentine because turpentine also has a sedative effect. Turpentine also can have a laxative effect, but I have only ever experienced a slight loosening of the stools when I took 2 tspns of turpentine in one go(double the normal dose). And if there is any ongoing disease in the blood or bowels, such as Hepatitis C, then you may well get a Herx or die-off reaction as well.

You can also take turpentine baths if you wish. Add one or two small shot glasses of turpentine into the bath and stay in the bath for about 1/2 hour. The iso-penenes in turpentine, the main beneficial ingredients, are also easily absorbed through the skin.

For interests sake, and to allay any fears, medical doctors commonly used and recommended internal teaspoon dosages of turpentine in the past.

Here are some examples of older turpentine usage and dosages:

The Physiomedical Dispensatory 1869 - Turpentine Usage

The US Dispensatory 1918 - Turpentine Properties

British Pharmaceutical Codex -- Turpentine

Replied by Denise

Hello Bill from the Phillipines, You said in a reply that it was likely my hep-c that caused my peripheral neuropathy...I've been treating my peripheral neuropathy with everything on this site and more with no results...So the safe assumption is I'm going at it all wrong...I should be attacking the source which is the hep-c...Are we in agreement with this...Thank you much..

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Denise...Generally, nueropathy problems are fairly commonplace with Hepatitis C patients. This is called Cryoglobulinemia and results from the immune system cryoglubulins "globbing" in the blood vessels and causing inflammation affecting the nerves.

Regarding your more recent post, it is unfortunate that you have had such a reaction to the turpentine from taking such small drop dosages. Turpentine also has mild diuretic action, which means that it expels water and minerals from the body. Normally this does not cause problems(from my own experience), but if your main electrolytes(calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium) are out of balance then cramping in the body will occur. Lack of magnesium and/or potassium in the body are favourites for causing cramp.

Turpentine is also a wide-action pathogen killer. When pathogens are killed in high numbers then poisons will be released from the destroyed pathogens that can also give added or increased symptoms which can be severe. This is called the Herx effect. Furthermore, if your liver is weak or insufficient and has difficulty clearing these poisons then this may also give other added symptoms.

I must also add that turpentine acts to expel xenobiotics -- it will remove any synthetic drug or poison which the body does not recognize. This would also put a strain on the liver. I have no idea whether you are taking synthetic ribovarin or interferon, but turpentine may well act to also expel them from the body. So, if you are also taking these drugs, then you should not be taking the turpentine.

Perhaps you should investigate Oscar's BHT Remedy or Ted's Lysine, Threonine and Vitamin C remedies for Hepatitis C. These options should not generally give you such severe problems.

Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa

Bill, you really got me confused now. I'm taking 2 prescription drugs while on my anti-candida protocol with the turpentine. Are you now saying that people on drugs/xenobiotics shouldn't be taking turpentine? Maybe I'm not full getting what you're saying.

Please clear this up for me. If this is the case, then no wonder my detox symptoms were going so bad on me. Maybe I'm thinking wrong though! Thanks!

Replied by Denise

I had a test for cryogobulins 2 months ago and everything was fine according to my PCP...He said I have no inflamation...I take 900 mgs magnesium malate a day and many other supplements..The brand name is Homco gum turpentine....I am currently taking a gram of Vit c an hour to flush out the turp. I take NO drugs at all. I read on the web that the herx effect is bogus...It was made up by dr'd to cover themselves when a person gets a reaction to a drug they prescribes...Google it and see...Also I am not a diabetic...I got hep-c from a car accident in 1969 and had a blood transfusion of one unit..Everything was fine until they discovered I had hep-c in 2003 and they talked me into a liver biopsy..I later found out that my enzymes were 35 and 41..Then after the biopsy my enzymes shot up to mid 300 range...and the trouble began......Someone told me "They woke up the virus."

Replied by Denise

Forgot...I'm also taking 1000 mgs of lysine five hours in a row every day to get back to where I was. NO ibuprophen as it raises my enzymes...Even 200 mgs will raise them...Ted's remedy..

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Tony....Turpentine/Kerosene both act as a diuretic and they expel xenobiotics. They generally function to cleanse the intestines and purify the blood.

Contra-indications between natural nutrients and drugs is always a problem. But whereas natural remedies tend to treat the core reasons for disease, drugs for chronic diseases are generally always palliative -- they only ever treat the symptoms.

What I'm saying here is that although these medical drugs might make you feel better, they do not treat the core reasons for you problems -- especially for heart disease and depression. So, if you continue to use these drugs, then further down the timeline these conditions are bound to get worse(because drugs do not treat the core reason -- they do not cure) and you will have to buy more and more drugs which fits the business profit model of the drugs companies perfectly.

In terms of drugs for serious chronic diseases, since a cure is generally out of the picture, we are not really patients -- we are just consumers.

Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa

Thanks Bill for the explanation. I thought you were originally saying that turpentine wasn't supposed to be taken at all with drugs. I already understood how bad drugs are for the body & they don't provide a cure. My main concern was mixing the turpentine with drugs & thinking it would create a possible fatal reaction. Thanks & God Bless!

Replied by Josh1875
Ft Worth, Texas

I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why everytime I try to take a teaspoon of turp mixed with honey or oil I start to get a burning sensation when I go to pee and feel like I need to go pee and can.t go for hours; sometimes it is unbearable

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Josh1875...A burning sensation when peeing indicates acid blood. Turpentine also acts as a diuretic -- it clears excess water(and minerals) from the blood. I never have a burning sensation when peeing after I take Turpentine. So the answer to this problem is simply to alkalize the blood by taking either the sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) with water remedy or by taking the ACV, bicarbonate and water remedy as shown here on EC. This should help to reduce the burning.

Being unable to pee is also indicative of either an infection in the bladder or prostatitis so I would get your bladder checked to be safe. Nutrients that will help with bladder infections are cranberry juice and/or D-Mannose. Larger dose Lugol's iodine (at least 8 drops or 50 mgs a day in split doses) will help both against bladder infections and help against prostatitis.

Research evidence has shown that Iodine prevents and reduces cysts in fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroid and prostate cyst formation (prostatitis). See this research.

Turpentine Enemas  

Posted by Mary (Saskatchewan, Canada) on 03/10/2014

Has anyone heard of or tired a turpentine enema? I have not tried one. I am just very curious as I read about it in one of Bill's citations of Turpentine uses in the early part of the century. They used it for bad constipation.

Turpentine in the Nose  

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Posted by Maryellen (Loveland, Ohio) on 09/03/2015
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Better But With Side Effects

Turpentine in the Nose:

Use with caution and learn from my experience. I have used the turpentine in my sinus for sometime now. I slightly dilute it with water in the palm of my hand and standing up I snuff it into my sinus. It clears out any mucus and I believe it is even caring for the brain because evidently it penetrates the blood brain barrier; Therefore the biofilm melting property is quite health promoting.

Caution: I suspected Cytomegelo Virus (a herpes which can lead to Kaposi's Sarcoma ( it is considered incurable due to the biofilm coating)) I am interested in mechanizing a cure.

While lying down on my side I chose to snuff a single drop of the diamond G turpentine into my nostril. If it had not been so painful, it would have been comical. The turpentine entered my sinus but also the sinus above my eye.

Instantly; The mucus drainage was profound! Sneezing violent. Entire area around my eye was bright red as well as the eye. The deep cleansing produced sinus pain and some swelling of tissues. Copious water consumption was required to cope with the fluid transfer mechanism. (Pure water consumption in copious amounts is required in order to 'push out - replace' the contaminated fluids)

24 hours later, the left side of my head feels better than decades before now.

Will I do it again? ABSOLUTELY. I will DILUTE the turpentine, lay on the opposite side and smile as I visualize the destruction of all possible viruses. Probably in the future I will inhale the fumes from time to time. ME

Posted by Lori (America) on 01/15/2015
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A doctor for NASA sent me a product. He said when they send astronauts into space they can't have them get sick. He said the germs that make people sick first incubate in the back of the throat where the nose and ears meet, where you can't reach gargling. His product was a small tincture, the instructions were to put drops in your nose so it will reach the place in the back of the throat. That was the best product. It cleared that space of mucus instantly. It wasn't for sale after I ran out I couldn't get any more.

After I started turpentine, I tried it in my nose. Now I know what the secret ingredient was that the product the NASA Dr used: turpentine, not even diluted. It works great.

Replied by Cindy

Hi Lori

If you see this post could you tell us please how you used turpentine in your nose? I am very interested, thanks

Replied by Caley

I believe the nasa nasal emollient was this. http://www.ponaris.net/. I had a doctor give me a sample before and was reminded of it when I recently tried my first teaspoon of turpentine. It contains pine oil so maybe that's why it is so similar.

Replied by Iris

Interesting medical use for the nose.

Turpentine Medicinal Uses  

Posted by Robert (Ca) on 06/13/2016

Pure distilled "spirits" of turpentine is basically the refined sap from specific pine tree varieties. It's history of use goes way back to Babylon. It was commonly referred to as 'terebinthe' or 'terebinthine'. It was available OTC as terpin hydrate however codeine was added latter & prescription required. It was used by American natives & African slaves as a inexpensive & accessible remedy. I would not advise using hardware store varieties as they are adulterated with petroleum distillitates & the "pure gum spirits" may be contaminated with the herbicide paraquat which is toxic.

There is a Australian town whose residents used turpentine & subsequently the 'governors' added chemical toxins to prevent ingestion. I am sure that Earth Clinic is under the FDA microscope so I caution against references to a certain brand(s) who make their living on making pure spirits 'the old fashioned way'. One maker will not answer health questions due to this scrutiny by FDA. Please refrain from such questions & thus protect this valuable source.

Toxicity: most anything is toxic in large doses, such as water. The half-life of 'turp' is 25 hours approximately, so a safe time lapse between each single dose is about 5-days totaling 5-6 single doses over 1-month. Start low at 12 drops & work up to about 40 drops, all taken with 1/2 to 1-tbsp sugar. After this period, a monthly single maintenance dose may be taken if/when necessary.

As we all know, there is no single remedy & one size doesn't fit all. This site is experimental & for the dissemination of freely sharing ideas. There are no 'cures' until an autopsy is performed. Health begins in the gut & the mind will keep us well as stress is dis-ease.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.

HI U ROBERT,,,,,,,,,, where do you get all your knowledge? Myself, I 've followed Dr Daniels for several years and she is the one who brought this to the world's attention a few years ago. Your advice is slightly contrary to her's. Where did you get your protocol?

The FDA got after her and she is now practicing in Panama. You make sense because 6 doctors were killed last year while working on a simple cure for early cancer.

I am the one who told folks where to buy their turpentine on this site. Should I not have done this?

You are a new boy on the block and coming on strong. I'll keep an eye on you.


EC: Nope, not a new boy on the block. Robert has been contributing to EC for years, off and on!

Turpentine Usage  

Posted by Joes (Calgary, Alberta) on 04/05/2015

I have a question about using turpentine. Have obtained some from Diamond Forest Products. I have been doing 1 tsp, 2x/week for the last 4 weeks. Want to use turp to get rid of microbes and possible parasites in blood and body. Hoping it will help with fatigue and also cancer: Multiple Myeloma. Fatigue is a long standing problem. Have problems with constipation and am using enemas.

Have been using turp at 1 tsp, 2x/week for the last 4 weeks (with ground up sugar cubes and about 1 Tbs of olive oil), and seemed to be able to tolerate it with moderate discomfort: concentration, spacey feeling, irritable, some nausea. Last night I took the turp (1 tsp) only with olive oil. I don't know if this was coincidence, but it hit me a lot harder with symptoms.

Would appreciate any advice about this and how I should continue with treatment. Also was thinking about the caution about kidneys and nervous system how much of a concern is this?

Thanks for help

Replied by Joes
Calgary, Alberta

I have read through the posts and would appreciate having clarification on some issues.

Thanks Bill for the Anti-candida protocol, will be looking at that and the link to the page on dealing with fungus.

Would like to know if enemas are enough to unblock the colon for parasites/microbes to exit.

How much of a dose of turpentine is needed to be effective (can I use less than a tsp)? I have read some posts that say to use turp for only 2x/week and others that say to use for 5days/week. I have been using a tsp 2x/week and have felt a lot of reaction (irritability, fatigue, crappy feeling), but have not passed anything noticeable. Not sure if candida is widespread. I have taken a break for a week now and plan to get back probably in another week.

Has anyone more info on using Turp as an enema, would it be as effective as oral consumption? Would like to give it a try.

Also planning to add more vit/min supplements. I have always wondered if the supplements in health food stores are good. Are they natural or synthetic. I would imagine natural would be better, but where to get a good source? Thanks for any help.

Trying to figure out what to do next.

Posted by Lorik (Martinsville, In) on 05/16/2014

I have candida & parasite problems. Instead of starting at 1/4 tsp of turp could I start at an amount of DROPS & take it each day? Or is twice a week the only recommendation? Thank you for this site.

I've tried turp before, taking only about 7 drops each day. It seemed my heart rate and blood pressure would go crazy! Any ideas on that? Thank you

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Lorik...If you have serious systemic candida and other pathogenic infections in your body and if you take turpentine for the first time, you will usually always get a Herx reaction which is caused by heavy die-off of pathogens with release of poisons.

Turpentine also removes biofilms with consequent large release of stored heavy metals into the body also causing other strange symptoms. When candida in particular is killed in large numbers by the turps, there is an even heavier release of candida poisons into the body. So, for a little while, you will feel worse -- with heart palpitations, higher BP and other strange symptoms, until your body has had time to clear these poisons from the body.

So the least you should do is to incorporate additional protocols like molybdenum to neutralize the candida poisons as well as use chlorella or kelp or spirulina to help detox and transport the heavy metals out of you body safely.

I don't really think that you will get very far in you candida remedy if you just use candida-kill remedies on their own. Not enough. You will need to do much more than that and use a much wider and more focused protocol to cure serious systemic candida issues which is why I always favour a multi-protocol approach. My full anti-candida protocol is shown about a quarter way down on this EC page:


The strategy I use against candida is shown here:

Anti-Candida and Anti-Pathogen Protocols

Anti-Biofilm Protocols

Alkalizing Protocols

Essential Detox Protocols

Liver Support Protocols(Liver, Kidney and Blood Support)

Vitamin and Mineral Support (Immune System Support)

The Health Defence Diet

Replied by Emma
Wa, Usa

Hello Bill,

You seem to be the expert in this group, so I will address this email to you.

I have candida and parasite (and lyme w/ co-infections) and I would like to use turpentine to address these. I have read Dr. Daniels' protocol but I don't like the idea to ingesting all that sugar. I have hyperinsulinemia and Diabetes type 2 from the lyme, so a lot of sugar consumption is not good.

I started my first dose of turpentine this AM -source from Georgia- and only took 1/4 tsp with 1 tsp coconut syrup (lower glycemic index) and 1 tsp avocado oil, chased it down with some liquid. I did not eat any food. I immediately became dizzy.

According to Dr. Daniels, becoming dizzy means that the turpentine went into the system too quickly and that not enough stayed in the gut. This defeats the very purpose that I'm trying to accomplish, namely keeping it in the gut to kill candida/parasites. I bought your book the other day so I can't use it as a resource for the moment. What am I doing wrong and what would you recommend?

Thank you.

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando
1245 posts

Hi Emma...The reason you become drunk or dizzy when you took the turpentine is not directly because of the turpentine itself but because of its rapid-kill effect on large numbers of parasites, candida, viruses and bacteria in your body. And when killed in such large numbers, candida releases aldehydes and alcohol poisons into the blood that will mentally and physically affect you.

I've been working with autistic children who are also taking turpentine and this has more extreme behavioural effects on a child's mind and body like stimming, aggression, repetitive behaviours, not speaking, wild behaviour etc. This is due to the effects of these alcohols and aldehydes on their developing brains. By the way, these children get exactly the same mental symptoms if they take MMS -- so these mental effects are actually caused by the pathogen die-off(Herx effect). This Herx or die-off effect is fairly prominent and should always be expected when you are initially killing such a wide range of pathogens as occurs in Lyme disease.

The effect of supplementing turpentine(or MMS) is necessarily different in an adult because adult brains are fully developed whereas a young child's brain is still developing. So, in an adult, the symptoms will manifest as feeling dizzy or drunk because of the aldehydes and alcohols released by the dead candida. Mood(depression) may also be affected.

If you wish to keep most of the turps to act in the gut then take the turps with castor oil. All the reasons for this are given in detail here.

The Turpentine Protocol is shown here. Take turpentine/CO three times a week(on a day on, day off basis) -- take it twice at the maintainance dose(1 tspn turps + 1 tablespoon CO) and once at the full laxative dose(1 tspn turps + 3 to 4 tablespoons CO) every week.

CO is a laxative and helps to disperse the turps rapidly throughout the whole intestines. The CO also inhibits the turpentine being absorbed into the blood -- so the turps mainly acts throughout the intestines.

So perhaps you should try taking the turpentine/CO protocol as advised above.

Replied by Roni

Hello Bill,

I have candida overgrowth, and have been having it for years. My symptoms are hair loss, tiredness, stomach pain, weight gain, sinus problems, bad breath, bloating, skin problems, white coated tongue etc.

Over the years I have tried everything with no result. I have tried HP which helped a little bit, coloidal silver, mastic gum, oregano oil, grapefruit seed extract, borax, iodine, graviola, pao d'arco tea, haritaki churna, baking soda, apple sider vinegar, turpentine... I was taking the HP for about 8 months and it helped a little bit with the tiredness, but my tongue didn't clear up. I also scrape and clean my tongue twice a day.

I went to see holistic doctors and regular primary care physicians -nothing, they didn't help. I have been on a diet for 2 years. I do not eat sugar, fruits, no coffee, no alcohol, keep low carb , no gluten, no bread, no processed food, I occasionally cheat with honey on gluten free crackers.

I've been taking turpentine ( 1 tsp turp with one sugar cube, once a day) for about three weeks now. It does not seem to work too.

I'm desperate and tired. I'm reading all these comments and articles and the turp and HP seem to work for most of the people. I have no idea what to do anymore. I appreciate any help and suggestions.

Turpentine Uses  

Posted by Suzy (Eugene, Or) on 01/31/2014

I bought the turpentine labeled Pure Gum Spirits... I saw the one that said 100% tree resin also. I decided that I would try a little bit in my bath water before I tried to ingest it. WHEEW~ the smell was pretty strong and it somehow did not strike me as a "natural smell" I changed my mind to even bathe in a little bit. I emptied the tub and noticed that my 100 year old cast iron porcelain clawfoot tub with some pretty awful mineral build up seemed to be looking a little better where I had splashed the turpentine.I grabbed some plain steel wool and went to work. I had tried all the stuff advertised for rust and stains and soap scum etc... etc.. and a whole bunch of home cleaners...including our friend vinegar.....but nothing worked like that straight up turpentine! ( Had to rinse it pretty good) BUT -- My tub looks fabulous!

It is a solvent so that makes sense! Thank you for helping me stumble onto this use for the turpentine. I still am going to wait for awhile before imbibing on it, and maybe I will order that organic brand from Georgia!

Where to Buy: Canada  

Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 01/28/2015

Does anybody know where can I get pure turpentine in Canada? All the shops I have found online are in the US and do not ship to Canada.

Replied by Laser

I have found that diamond forest in Georgia is the best Turpentine they ship to Canada but a little expensive for shipping.. So maybe grabbing the larger bottle or sshipping to wherehouse in the USA is the best option..

diamond g forest product.com

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando
1245 posts

Hi Marcin...You can buy this brand of Pure Turpentine from any Home Depot store in Canada:

I've also just checked the store locator and there is a Home Depot near you in Brampton at 49 First Gulf Boulevard.

Home Depot - Pure Turpentine

You can also easily buy pure turpentine made from Canada Balsam or Balsam Fir sold from all Acklands Grainger hardware stores in Canada -- including many AG stores in Brampton which you might know already:

Acklands Grainger - Pure Turpentine

In fact, Acklands Grainger's Bio-Pure Pure Turpentine brand is what Tony Pantelleresco(a Canadian) uses to show people how to supplement turpentine in this Youtube video:

How to Heal with Turpentine

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc Canada

Hi ---the Recochem product landed me in the hospital last year. I have now the Georgia product and it is good. There should be a warning about the Recochem product as it is not 100%.

Namaste, Om

Replied by Marcin

Bill and Om, thanks. I have decided to order the Georgia product.

Replied by Sarah
Toronto, Ontario

You can but pure gum spirits of Turpentine at http://www.mosaic-id.com They sell the Diamond G brand and delivery fast to Toronto, ON. I recieved my order in 2 business days.

Where to Buy: New Zealand  

Posted by Sheryl (Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand) on 09/01/2014

I am trying to get Klean Strip kerosend but it is not available in New Zealand? Where could I buy some?

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Sheryl...There is a form of Kerosene that is made in Australia that can be supplemented. Walter Last mentions that Digger's Low Odour Kerosene, an Aussie brand, is a safe and useful supplement which you might well be able to purchase in New Zealand, being such a close neighbour to Australia. See this article -- his recommendations on which forms of kerosene/turpentine to use is given lower down in this article:


So you might also be able to purchase Digger's Low Odour Kerosene, hopefully, at any hardware store or camping shop in your area.

Some further information which might help you-- Klean-Strip products like kerosene are also sold at Walmart and Home Depot stores worldwide.

Replied by Steve
Rotorua, Nz

Hi, old post I am replying to, but I am looking for a supplier of Gum Turpentine in NZ, can you advise of anyone?

EC: Please see Bill Thompson's post in our "Where to Buy: New Zealand" section here.

Replied by Shereen
New Zealand

I desperately want some 100% pure gum turpentine for candida/parasite treatment- I have tried everywhere. Cannot get it in NZ, can't get the Australian Diggers here and have sent 10 e-mails/facebook requests to Diamond G Forest, with no reply. Can anyone sell/send me some please??

Where to Buy: Thailand  

Posted by Jack (Nongkhai, Thailand) on 08/31/2014

Hi, I've been a sufferer of a severe candida infection for many years now. Just recently it has come to my attention that taking small doses of pure gum turpentine can eradicate candida in many cases. I'm dying to try this! However, where I live (thailand) there seems to be no pure gum turpentine anywhere. I've found a small bottle labeled just turpentine and nothing else except Chinese letters that no one can read. What should I do? I'm tempted to get this bottle and try it, any ideas? Any informed opinions? Greatly Appreciated, thanks.

Replied by Jack
Nongkhai, Thailand

I'm very interested in pursuing a turpentine solution to my candida problems, which have haunted me for years. Now I'm living in NongKhai, northeast thailand, a very beautiful place, but also a very isolated one. In the last week I've searched all the hardware/painting stores within a 15 kilometre radius and the only turpentine I could fine is this bottle. In the second photo you'll notice the percentages written on the label, apparently white spirits is the 95% and turpentine is the 5%. What do you think, should I give this bottle a try? Might it be safe? Appreciate your help, Jack

Replied by Bee
New York, US

So you want to drink the turpentine.. Can someone please tell me the safety of this? I can't understand some of the natural remedies although I won't question them, but some days when I read them I cringe.. Like Borax , turpentine, are these things safe? does one drink them??

excuse my ignorance...

I do love EC though and thank you for the valuable info...

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc Canada

100% pure gum turpentine. This comes for Georgia, US. This is what I ordered and received. On their website you can see how this is won from cultured trees and shipped worldwide.

I used a questionable product before and even though I phoned the manufacturer, got a vague reply. With dire results.

The pure gum 100% product from Georgia, US, is the one to use. Look it up online.

Namaste, Om

Replied by Mama to Many Donate


Dear Bee,

I hear what you are saying! I often pretty hesitant to try something new with health and will have to read about it many, many times before I jump in to it, especially when it is labelled as something that is not to be ingested! I, too, have thought, “Turpentine? Are you crazy?” “Borax? Isn't that poisonous?” etc.

But often the more I look in to it, the more sense it makes. The turpentine that Om mentions, the organic stuff made in GA, is distilled from pine rosin. It is a completely natural product. It reminds me of how my sons made maple syrup in the spring by tapping our maple trees and boiling off the water. They took a part from the tree and processed it and made a great and nutritious food! So, I bought some of the organic turpentine from Ga. It smells quite amazing. Very “piney.” But, true to my nature, it sat for months without me even trying it. I had no specific need for it, but just wanted it on hand to try when I got brave enough. I have used it topically a couple of times for joint pain. I am currently using it to worm my goats since nothing else natural or otherwise has worked. So far, so good.

Regarding Borax…it is a natural product mined from the earth, like salt.

Here is a quote I love:

“Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.” ~ Paracelsus

Taking a ton of borax would be a bad idea, and so would taking a ton of salt. Likewise, lobelia is an amazing herb. But if too much is taken, it causes vomiting.

I believe that people are taking borax and turpentine in very small quantities, measured by drops or ¼ teaspoons. Drinking them in any large quantity would not seem wise.

Borax is sodium tetraborate decahydrate – or Na2B4O7 • 10H2O. Sounds rather scary, except, that when you break it down you get, Sodium, Boron, and H2O.

I am just beginning to use these two things myself, so I have no remedies or successes to share yet, but hope to at some point.

The hydrogen peroxide inhalation therapy sounded rather scary to me for a while. But then I realize you are dealing with hydrogen and oxygen. Things we already breathe. I have used it in a nebulizer recently with shocking success.

Anyway, some skepticism is wise, I think. It makes sense to read and study and ask questions. Thanks for asking valid and good questions. I will look forward to hearing some other thoughts on the matter!

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hello Jack...I'm afraid that I can't make head or tail of the turpentine images that you show because I can't read Thai.

I live in the Philippines and I also supplement turpentine regularly and the stores here also have very questionable sources of turpentine.

So I improvised.

The other thing is that inflammable products like Georgia Diamond G organic gum turpentine are not generally allowed to be shipped out of the US. I checked. But you will be able to order and ship turpentine from an ebay.com UK source because they will ship turpentine abroad from UK. Just type "Turpentine UK" into the ebay.com search box and the first few results will be from UK vendors. That's one option for you.

For myself, I simply improvised as I've said. Essential pine oil made from the Scots Pine is what I use and supplement. This stuff is triple distilled and so its quite strong. This form of pine oil might also be obtainable in Thailand from a health shop, for instance, in Bangkok -- not sure about the Thai provinces though.

I don't know whether you know, but you can also use ordinary lamp kerosene -- this is equivalent to turpentine. To help you to decide, here is a more expert and informative article by Walter Last, an Aussie who more thoroughly describes the many other different forms that you can use and supplement that are derived from pine trees, petroleum products and coal products. All are produced from various distillation techniques. See this link for more information:

Kerosene -- The Universal Healer

If you are also suffering from candida, then you will be able to buy most of the nutrient chemicals advised on this site in Bangkok. Just tell the Bangkok taxi driver to go to the big winged angel monument(Democracy Monument??) near the palace and get out there. Then look for a chemical store called Vittyasom Ltd. This place has all manner of chemicals, including Borax and Lugols Iodine (upstairs in the doctor's pharmacy they make the Lugols iodine up for you while you wait). This is my own personal source for cheaper but effective nutrient chemicals that I use.

Replied by Bee
New York, US

Hi Mama and thank you

I have a better understanding of what these things are... you surely wrote out a great description and I so appreciate it. Maybe it is the names that throws me off. Borax and turpentine.. I keep thinking it's what takes paint off things...LOL

Anyway; I take a few things but I would love to know as a 60 year old woman to go as affordable as I can what would be the most ideal supplements or herbs to have quality of life and try and stay healthy being a strict budget....besides a good diet and water and exercise... like what supplements do we need and what can we do without. I do this by trial and error and try and stay alkaline and of course watching my blood pressure.. but I mean if I could get away with using lemons I would save a ton of money.........lol...

thanks again

Replied by Kt

Dear Mama to Many, I too have been skeptical of the posts I've read about borax, turpentine and peroxide. At the same time, I suspect the need for these remedies could be very well caused by something in our food supply that is acceptable by many. I learned this, piecemeal, by the process of elimination for over twenty years.

I've had multiple head and neck injuries, beginning with emotional and physical abuse by my mother, automobile accidents and horses. One of the vertebra in my neck is pressing against my spinal cord. I've had arthritis and degenerative disk disease of my neck, back, spine and big toe diagnosed. I had sciatica.

I was in a coma for a month and my communication skills are poor. I felt like I needed to give you this background because of things I've posted here.

I have learned that any pain I encounter is always caused by some hidden source of MSG I've ingested. When I have hay fever or asthma, I can look back at what I've eaten and always find the source that has weakened my system. At the same time the fruits and vegetables, that are supposed to make and keep us healthy, have been genetically modified in one way or the other and cannot provide the assimilation we expect. "Organic" is no longer safe and fresher is not better. True, everyone is going to react differently because no one eats identical when pregnant. The way our systems develop will not be identical because MSG crosses the placenta. (Intern. J. Neuroscience, 1984, Vol. 23, pp. 117-126)

For me the culprit is the flowing agent in salt. Through years of weeding out the things I found out were causing me problems...this tiny amount of a substance is what caused me so much pain and breathing difficulties. Flowing agents are in more than we can keep tabs on, but what is in our common table salt, I believe, is the root of many ailments. Very few are considering the binders, fillers and capsules used in many vitamins, supplements or medications. The majority of these things are "manufactured" from plants that have been genetically modified. What is advertised as "vegetable" is more than likely from corn or soy. I'm not in pain as my x-rays, CT's or MRI's indicate I should be.

I'm just sharing what I know has happened to me. The more that man fools with the food to make it drought and disease free, there seems to be more need for medications that are making things worse because long term studies cannot be conducted...just a quick fix for any problem without thinking about long term consequences. I watch a lot of news and undercover investigations that alerted me to what is happening in the world. The commercials in between were about "new ailments" needing new medications that had more side effects than the reason for taking the medication. It's been a long journey and I have learned much.

I read my Bible every day and I see prophecy being fulfilled...as many have seen for generations. We are closer, now, to the end of all things than our great-grandparents. 1 John 5:19 I hope I've made some sense to you and hopefully correct any way I might have offended you. KT

Replied by Joy

To Bill from Phillipines, thankyou for supplying the Vittyasom details, I too was searching for somewhere like this to buy Lugols. Next time in BKK I will look out for them.

Replied by Steven Cnx
Chiang Mai, Thailand

Hi, I live in Chiang Mai and et the same chemical problems w/turpentine. I like the idea of the Pine oil which we can order 1oz bottles from India.

My question is can I use liquid paraffin USP from a chemical supply or medical supply as kerosene? Thanks so much.


Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Steven...You should be able to obtain essential pine oil off internet sites like ebay or amazon without much trouble. That's how I obtained my own turps or pine oil supply that I have been using regularly for the last 3 years. This essential pine oil form is always pure and is usually triple distilled. I live in the Philippines and it was the only form of turps that I could get because, generally, in some countries like the US inflammable liquids like kerosene or turpentine are banned from shipment abroad. Or it will cost you an arm or a leg due to shipping safety requirement costs. I've been using the essential pine oil form for three years now and I'm quite happy with it -- it's very effective. You might even be able to purchase essential pine oil from a health shop in Chiang Mai.

Kerosene is virtually the same as gum turpentine and just as effective as turpentine regarding its medicinal qualities and components but is harder to get. In the old days they used just the lamp oil form of kerosene but now there are so many different types of kerosene it can be quite bewildering and confusing. The rule that I would always go by would be to only use kerosene that is a pure distillate that has no additives and which fals within thedistillate range of 100 C to 200 C. My own personal preference would perhaps be to use kerosene in the distillate range of 100 C and 150 C -- the same lighter kerosene form that Paula Ganner used as an all-round cure-all so successfully in Europe.

Avoid using Paraffin USP oil unless you want a laxative -- this a British standard and is a much thicker oil with a much higher distillate temperature thus containing different components and properties to either kerosene or turpentine and so it is not the same. Also I would definitely avoid using the blue or pink paraffin forms.

More info for you on turpentine and kerosene here.

Grass Valley, California

Hi Bill, I am in the middle of Dr Daniels Candida Cleanse protocol. I was disappointed that she would not answer any questions without paying her a monthly fee. She is no doubt a brilliant lady but not as generous with her time as you are. 
I was wondering if you would comment on her protocol. For example she says only use sugar with the turpentine and NOT honey. She also says no oils, even in a salad dressing. No nuts, no seeds, yet she says to drink 1/4 cup of soaked flax seeds What do you think, Bill? Your response would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.

P.S. I have your book.

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Posted by Emma (Andover, United Kingdom) on 05/12/2015

I am keen to find a UK source of 100% pure gum spirit of turpentine. I have bought the Mylands brand but am not sure it is really 100% pure. I then found a source of turpentine essential oil but am worried this is not the same thing and is not going to work or be safe to ingest? Any advice from anyone re: a UK safe source would be much appreciated. I have candida issues. Who hasn't!

Replied by Tucker

Hi Emma, I have researched Mylands turpentine and have found that it is good quality and suitable for internal use.

Replied by Sharon
3 posts

Hi, I'm trying to find a cure for what I think is a mycoplasma infection infection bowel and bladder. I'm too scared to use the borax. Re kerosene vs turps...and making sure its pure can anyone point me in the direction of a uk supplier please? Seems a lot of you are in the States. Also it seems that most of you are taking turps not kerosene but a lot of the research I've found points to kerosene...which I think is paraffin in the UK...why?


Replied by Timh Donate


S: From personal experience, Turpentine is not particularly effective against Mycoplasma but Borax definitely is.

May I make a few suggestions? First do some alkalizing remedies with either Baking Soda or B.S. plus ACV. Two of the most effective natural remedies for UTI/Bladder is Cranberry and D-Mannose. Dr Christopher's Kidney/Bladder herbal combination is effective.

Back to the Mycoplasma. The most active places for M. infection is lungs and joints, and in some severe cases the Liver.

Back to Borax. As an introduction, try taking footbaths a few times weekly before retiring by adding a few spoons of Borax & Epsom Salts to the footbath. There is absolutely no bad side effects from these and the benefits are numerous.

As for Turpentine, I have been using a quart can purchased from a local hardware & home store. Read the label carefully & fully for no additives whatsoever; it should say "pure gum turpentine". I currently take about 2-3 doses per wk for chronic infections with good results.

Replied by Bill Donate

San Fernando, Philippines
1245 posts

Hi Emma...I've been using the essential pine oil (from pinus sylvestris) for the last 3 years on a regular basis and it seems to be fine. My essential pine oil is pure and triple distilled. It's all I can get shipped to the Philippines and I'm happy with it. Most brands of turps will not ship from amazon or ebay because it is inflammable.

Myland's pure gum turpentine should also be OK to supplement -- just make sure that no other synthetic oils have been added to it. Just check the back label of your brand to make sure its pure gum turpentine.

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Posted by Joeelli (Dublin) on 10/04/2013
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Hi! I have been taking diluted turpentine (with olive oil) for 2 weeks. Unfortunatelly my tongue is still white and my seb derm is worse than ever. What can I do?

Replied by Ron
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You are probably allergic to dairy. Avoid all dairy for at least two weeks and your tounge will clear. Once cleared do not start eating dairy again as your white tounge will return immediately.