Ted's Dog Mange Cure - Treatment for Demodectic and Sarcoptic Mange

Last Modified on Feb 23, 2015

Among other things, your dog may be susceptible to mange – a condition that involves itching, scratching, hair loss, and painful sores. We, like you, don’t want your dog to suffer any more than it already has, which is the biggest reason why we’ve done the research to find ways to treat mange. But, the #1 most effective natural home remedy for mange in dogs comes from our expert contributor, Ted from Bangkok Thailand, who sent us this incredible remedy in 2004. Keep reading to learn the best way to naturally treat mange.

What Is Mange?

We believe understanding the condition itself is one of the most important steps toward treatment. That being said, mange is a common skin disease that is caused by several different species of mites. Your dog normally carries mites in its skin and hair follicles; however, when your dog becomes overpopulated with the parasites or is inhabited by a different kind of the pest, it can cause a mild to severe skin infection.

Three types of mange are common: localized, generalized, and demodectic pododermatitis. Localized occurs in one to two small areas. Generalized affects large areas of the skin or the dog’s entire body. And, demodecitic pododermatitis is situated within the foot and accompanied by bacterial infection – the most difficult to treat.

How Do I Know If My Dog Has Mange?

The earlier you identify mange, the better. So, knowing what symptoms to look for is important. While the symptoms of mange vary depending on which type of mite is present, several symptoms are common no matter the type. Some of the most common symptoms you need to look for to determine if your dog has mange are hair loss, bald spots, sores, scabs, and intense itching. You may also notice reddened skin and a rash or pattern of bumps on the animal’s skin.

Ted’s Dog Mange Cure

Treating mange is no easy task, but Ted has come up with a “streamlined” cure for the condition. By following his extensive instructions, your pet should be mange-free in a few simple steps.

Treatment Components

The treatment for mange is made up of three basic components: hydrogen peroxide, borax, and water. When combined in the appropriate ratio, these three components create an effective disinfectant for your dog. You should use this treatment to cleanse your pet’s skin as well as anywhere the animal has been sleeping, playing, laying…By disinfecting areas where your dog has been, you reduce the risk for re-infestation.

Hydrogen Peroxide

The peroxide serves as a natural disinfectant and cleanser for the condition. H202 works through oxidation by adding additional oxygen into the equation and creating an environment in which the mites cannot survive. To create the appropriate solution, you need 1% hydrogen peroxide. Hydrogen peroxide is most widely available in a 3% solution, so you need to add two parts of water to one part of 3% hydrogen peroxide.

Borax

Borax is a common household chemical. The compound is effective for killing insects and fungi. It also is a natural disinfectant. So, it can be used effectively to cleanse your pet’s skin and fur. For a more sensitive but still as effective form of borax, look for sodium perborate. Using either form, you will need 3 heaping tablespoons to add to the mixture.

Water

Water simply functions to dilute the hydrogen peroxide and dissolve the borax. This component creates the appropriate solution and makes using the treatment that much easier. To create the solution, you will need 1000 cc of water.

Treatment Protocol

To effectively utilize Ted’s remedy, you need to follow the protocol as precisely as possible. To begin the treatment, you create the cleansing solution, use it to wash the animal, and then disinfect other areas where the animal has been. It is important to remember not to wash the solution off of your dog or even to wipe your pet dry after rinsing it with the solution as it must remain on the treatment area to be effective.

Mix the Solution

To create the initial cleansing treatment, mix the water, hydrogen peroxide, and borax. The treatment requires 500 cc of 3% hydrogen peroxide diluted in 1000 cc of water. After you have mixed the water and H2O2, add the borax. Measure 3 heaping tablespoons of borax into your hydrogen-water solution and stir until the borax is dissolved.

Cleanse the Animal

After you have created the solution, use it to rinse the animal several times. You need to soak the dog entirely, even in areas unaffected by mange. Soak the animal several times and keep it wet for a period of time. You can use a pail or even a heavy sprayer bottle to apply the solution, but be sure to thoroughly cleanse the dog’s fur and repeat the treatment multiple times. Again, do not rinse the dog’s fur with water and do not pet the animal dry after apply the solution, as both of these limit the solution’s efficacy.

Disinfect Other Areas

After you have sufficiently cleansed the dog, use the solution to spray down and wipe the floors where the dog has been. Also be sure to cleanse its kennel or sleeping area. If it has pillows or blankets, dispose of them to avoid a re-infestation.

Other Considerations

For the best results, follow this basic protocol, and wash your dog at least 1 to 2 times a week with the solution. Additionally you may try neem and mineral oil applied to the dog’s coat, but the borax-hydrogen peroxide-water solution is generally more effective. Adding a pinch of borax (no more than 1/8 teaspoon) to 1 liter of water for your dog also helps treat mange from the inside out.

Ted’s mange protocol is considered the top natural remedy for mange. If you are trying to eliminate mange in your dog, give this treatment a try and let us know how it works for you. Continue reading below for more information from Ted and feedback from hundreds of our readers who have successfully cured mange using Ted's protocol.

Mange Cure Photos
Two of our readers, Caren and LaDonna, sent sent us before and after remedy photos of their dogs. Click here to see the photos and remarkable recoveries from mange using Ted's Borax and Peroxide cure!


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Posted by Erikajay (Macon, Georgia) on 08/05/2014

My question has nothing to do with your remedy but with the mange itself.

I work in rescue and pulled a dog from a high kill shelter 5 days ago. She has been to the vet and is being treated for both demodectic and sarcoptic mange. How contagious is sarcoptic to humans? We interact with her a lot, so my number 1 concern is my children.

Thank you!

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
08/06/2014

Hey Erikajay!

Sarcoptic mange mites are very contagious and cause 'scabies' in humans; they cannot reproduce on humans, but will live for about 5 days and cause an itchy rash. You should contact your physician if your kids develop an itchy rash and let them know they were exposed to scabies.

The good thing is that with treatment your dog should not be contagious after about 5 days. While you have already treated your dog via your vet - and I am assuming it is an oral miticide, it would be wise to use the mange remedy on this site to address the exterior of your dog to kill as many mites as quickly as possible to reduce possible transmission to your kids. It is also a good idea to use the mange remedy on every single other pet in the household to avoid those pets getting infected with scabies as well.

Lastly, don't forget to clean, clean, clean - and sterilize any dog bedding, the crate or area where the dog resides, and all areas where the dog may access.

Good luck, and thank you for rescuing this dog!

Replied by Blueangel
Wisconsin, US
02/09/2015

Erikajay,

Yes, Sarcoptic Mange affects humans. I began fostering a dog a year ago. She was underweight and very itchy. It took three vets for a correct diagnosis, and a fourth for successful treatment.

Meanwhile, I had bites on my arms and my scalp was crawling. Our daughter had bites on her face. My husband had bites on his legs. We kept being told that the canine variant of the scabies bug can't complete its lifecycle on humans. Well, I can tell you from personal experience that that is not true! There have been documented cases. But for some reason, they're not talked about in the medical or veterinary communities.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21540570

It's been a year and I'm still fighting the mites on me and my family. Keeping the dog away from everyone has helped them. But I continue to have problems, probably because I still take care of the dog.

We were all cured on Thanksgiving, but the little bastards came back by Christmas. Dog is back on Revolution every two weeks. But we humans continue to struggle with the bugs. For me, its a daily battle. For the others, just an occasional annoyance.

So far, we've had improvement (but no cure) from Neem Oil, Ivermectin (orally and topically), and Permethrin (topically). I just started the Borax and H2O2, so the jury is still out on that one. It seems promising, though. (The others did, too, so I've become very skeptical.)

I hope for your family's sake that you got it under control and they're okay. Because it's awful, really it is.

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Posted by Shawna (Newberg, Or) on 02/06/2015

[YEA]  We rescued a puppy this last summer, aside from the MANY visits to the VET because of kennel cough she then got Mange, fairly localized to neck and chest area. The Vet had me using the standard Ivermectin, but even after 5 months it was not doing anything, I then added Neem oil, which helped but then I found Ted's CURE. IT IS AMAZING!!!!!! . I have only been using it about 1 month and her mange is all but gone.Of course I will continue to use it for a while but I was amazed at the $10 I spent vs the $100's I had spent at the vet on meds that gave horrible side effects and didn't work.

Thank you so much.

Posted by Keith (Millstone Twp, Nj) on 01/29/2015

Hello, I have a dog ~7 months old. We have been dealing with demodectic mange for a few months. It started out just around his eyes it looked like it was gone and then it exploded all over his body. He now has it everywhere, he has scabs, red bumps and loss of hair everywhere. He is scratching and licking a lot. I have religiously been using the borax/peroxide solution for a week. Can you tell me what to look for if this is working? Do you know how long until I see some improvement? His chin is so raw I'm worried about infection. Thank you

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/30/2015

Hey Keith!

The *signs* that the remedy is working is a relaxed and happy dog. When I have dipped my dogs -either to treat for mange or as a 'go to first' dipping solution for dogs with skin issues, my dogs are always happy and energetic after a dip, and they are not itchy.

From what you describe it sounds like your dog has a secondary skin infection going on, particularly as you have been using the dip for a week now and have no obvious improved results.

If this were my dog I would head to the vet and get a prescription of antibiotics to deal with the staph infection that is going on. If that is out of the question, then I would consider Ted's Borax protocol for pets to fight the yeast from the inside out, as well as Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy to knock down the infection on the skin topically.

I would next consider the diet; if the brand you are feeding has grains in it, it is time to change the diet to a grain free brand.

Since you have been dealing with this for several months, keep in mind it will take time for your dog to heal. When I have treated generalized demodex in a puppy of similar age it took 12 weeks to fully resolve- and this without complications from a secondary skin infection.

You can help your dog's immune system by adding vitamin C to the diet, along with echinacea or golden seal to help fight infection. Supplementing Evening Primrose Oil in the kibble may help with dry skin. OTC products such as Neosporin may help with the raw chin.

If there is a chance that this is sarcoptic mange rather than demodex, you will also need to keep his bedding and living area sanitized regularly to prevent reinfection.

Please keep us posted!

Replied by Keith
Millstone Twp, NJ
01/31/2015

Hi, Thank you for your response. You all are awesome...really. Can you tell me or direct me to the recipe for the anti-fungal/anti-staph remedy? I believe the borax/peroxide may be helping because I have noticed after giving my pup the bath, he looks happy and zips around the house!

I have been working with a homeopathic vet who has been trying remedies of sulfur and silca, but not sure they are working. We have currently stopped remedies. Also, Zeus (my pup) is on a raw diet and taking a Number of vitamins and oils. I hesitate to use antibiotics because it is thought that prescription drugs Zeus took for worms, when he was very young, and vaccines, is what got us here in the first place....weakened immune system.

So, I think I will continue the borax/perioxide baths every other day and borax in his drinking water. The anti-fungal...paste (if I can find the recipe) Neosporin on his chin and coconut oil or castor oil on his dry skin until I see some major improvement. Does that sound right?

Again thank you for all your help. What a valuable resource you all are. Best, k

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/31/2015

Hey Keith!

My internet connection is terrible right now else I would find the Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy for you, but if you just do a search for it, or look at 'recent pet posts' and just scroll down and flip back a few pages it is plastered everywhere :-)

In your shoes I would NOT use the castor oil on the chin; if you strongly feel it is indicated use it sparingly as I find it as strong as pure tea tree oil.

The sulpher and silica may be working, but keep in mind that the mites have a certain life cycle so you will need to treat long term no matter the route.

If you are working with a holistic vet then keep them informed of your results; my experience with the mange remedy is that the dogs always leave the tub happy, and that the skin can appear worse before it gets better. 1 dip every other day for a total of 3 dips the first week should be enough - and then once per week thereafter for 12 weeks should do it. Dipping more often may dry out the skin. The anti-fungal/anti-staph remedy can be applied to affected areas on days that you do not dip with the mange remedy - JMHO.

Replied by Keith
Millstone Township, Nj
02/10/2015

Hello again, I have posted before about my dog Zeus who has demodectic mange and skin infection. I have been using the mange solution and have added the anti-fungal/staph solution to the mix. My first question is if I do the anti fungal dip, does that work on the mange as well as the infection? Also, he has now licked his paw raw and limping on it. Any ideas what to put on it. I have tried Neem oil and coconut which aren't working. I'm also using Neosporin. I'm giving him antibiotics too (with lots of probiotics)

His hair growth has not started...he looks just awful. Patience is not my strong suit. Any suggestions? Thank you.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/11/2015

Hey Keith!

Your first post was 1/29 and you had been attempting to home treat for a few months; have you seen *any* improvement after using Ted's remedy? Often times bad cases appear to get much worse due to a rapid die off of the mites, but then there is an uptick and things clearly improve- have you seen any signs of improvement/lack of itching/healing of the red bumps?

IMHO if you have not seen any kind of improvement it might be time to throw in the towel and use the Ivermectin approach. While this is not my first approach, when you have super resistant mites I would not hesitate to go this route.

Are you dosing the antibiotics under the guidance of your vet?

You might find slathering the paw with topical antibiotic and wrapping it in gauze and then put a human sock over the paw, and a few inches of duct tape to secure the sock in place [careful not to bind or get too tight] and leaving that on for several hours under observation - or overnight if your dog won't chew the bandage off - might give the paw the break from licking that it needs to get some healing done. If that didn't do it I would consult my vet.

You may find Ted's borax protocol helpful to get a leg up on the internal yeast:

Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 12/12/2014

"The borax dose is the same regardless of the weight of dogs. In the end small dogs drink less than large dogs. The only difference is the sex of dogs which the female dog requires half the dosages male dogs.

So a female dog is always 1/8 teaspoon per liter dose. And male dogs is 1/4 teaspoon per liter water. Weight is irrelevant.

Timing:
Borax dosage for 1 week. Then 1/2 dosage in week 2. Stop for 1 week. Resume.

or

Borax dosage for 4 days, then no borax/water for 3 to 4 days. Continue on/off schedule until ailment clears."

You can do the mange dip - and by this time you should only be doing 1 dip per week - and then follow up with the staph remedy in a spritzer bottle to spot treat affected areas without having to dip the entire dog.

Demodex dogs above all else need good groceries and supplements for immune support. Make sure you are not feeding a grocery store brand high in grains and food dyes and sugar. You might find supplementing with colostrum of additional benefit, along with vitamin C and echinacea/golden seal - discuss with your holistic vet.

Lastly, consider a high quality lavendar essential oil - dilute with pure water and put in a spritzer bottle to both spritz the skin for calming, and for the soothing effects from inhaling the fragrant air.

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc Canada
02/11/2015

[WORKED TEMPORARILY]   Hello Keith

If me, and I have used it with success is

1 Ted's Mange Treatment

2 Ted's anti staph solution for spraying

3 ACV on wash cloth improving the ph

4 The best : UT = your own best body blue print medicine.

5 Last NOT least, Turmeric. Dry powder

Turmeric is a natural anti biotic, excellent for skin and new blood which has largely healed my big dog's entire back which was bloody and infected. My belief is that allopathic antibiotics become precurser for candida and then cancer

My big dog had red mange and I used an essential orange oil household cleaner, spraying. It worked super well. Also, it kills fleas and keeps the skin soft.

ACV as a spray kills fleas well and you can soon see them dead all over which I did not suspect at first. But one needs to spray this at least twice a day, not so with TIKO orange spray which I think is the best but I like to use a multi pronged approach. And ACV is important as it changes the skin ph. You dilute ACV as the dog can handle.

The very best is which people shun but believe me, it is a divine remedy which is God's gift, used all over the world. On him I have used mine and he liked that. But I want to find a long handled 2nd hand pot to take his which is best. But both work. Fresh urine is sterile and does not have an odour. It heals every thing and you can research that.

I still have mites. The last lot from a garment at a big store in Canada. I have soaked a soft terry cloth and used fresh "Manava Mutra" for a month and keep at it as there is far less problem. Also :Shivambhu" as it is called in India, is the answer to all human and animal troubles, cleaning the aura which holds the roots of diseases physically and mentally. Moreover the skin will glow and be beautiful.

Anyway, this is my way and I wish you both all the best success. Namaste Om

Replied by Keith
Millstone Township, NJ
02/18/2015

This is my Third post regarding Zeus with the mange. I have been religiously following Ted's Mange Remedy and on off days Ted's anti-fungal/staph remedy. Neither seem to be stopping the spread of his hair loss and scaley, scabby skin. Sometimes it looks as if it's getting under control then the redness and hairloss appear again. He had one paw he licked raw now it's both paws. They are bright red with little fur and seem very painful. The hair loss is moving up his leg. Is this all mange or am I dealing with something else too?

He is on a raw veggie, lightly steamed meat and fish diet, tripe too, With various oils added to his food including coconut oil and coconut water. He is taking probiotics, multivitamins, immune boosters, enzymes, vitamin c. He also did 5 days of antibiotics for his infection. I've also added Borax to his water and recently ACV. NOTHING seems to be working. I've applied cocunut oil to his fur, Neoosporin to his cuts from scratching. ACV I recently have started spraying him

This has been going on since before Thanksgiving. I did see some improvement for about a week and it started off much "milder" then it is now.

He also has been to the vet and is going again tomorrow. What am I missing?

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/19/2015

Hey Keith!

I feel your frustration :-(

At this point I have to question if you got the diagnosis of demodex from your vet; did they do a scraping to confirm? Demodex mites are difficult to find in a healthy dog - you literally have to put the dog in a blender and then spin the results in a centerfuge to find mites in a healthy dog. In a dog dealing with demodex mite overgrowth due to health complications, the mites are easier to find on a simple scrape. Lots of times a dog with demodex will develop black-head type pimples- this before they get really bad. Did Zeus have the black-head pimples - or has it always been just itching and scales and hair loss?

From this end of the keyboard it sounds as if you are either dealing with a very resistant strain of demodex mite - which is possible, OR you are dealing with atopic dermatitis, which is a genetic disease that shows up right around 6 months of age, can be linked to seasonal allergy season, and just keeps getting worse each year.

I just had a friend PTS her French bulldog due to atopic dermatitis - he was only 6 years old in a breed that lives 8+ years. The allergies came on each spring, then spring and mid-winter during thaws, and then it was constant. Steroid shots were effective the first few years, but then they became a constant and she simply could not keep up with the constant bathing and the dog was miserable. I wish I had had a chance to work on this dog, but I respect her choice as the dog's owner and caretaker that she made the best decision.

Discuss these possibilities with your vet. The only additional supplements I can see that might apply are colostrum - an immune builder, and quercetin and/or yucca for inflamation.

If this were my dog I would bite the bullet and get the steroid shot; this will break the cycle of itching and give the skin a chance to heal. The steroid shot wears off 4-6 weeks, and the initial reaction to the shot is usually panting when it is not warm [think lady going through menopause! ] and then increased thirst and appetite. Some do not like these reactions at all, but it is just what the shot does, and I have found it helpful in getting on top of an allergy break out. You can stop the mange remedy dips and just use the staph treatment in a spritz bottle for the hot spots. Once the skin is calm and healing I would continue with the health and immune supplements and then try to figure out what is causing the flare ups, and then come up with a plan to nip any flare ups in the bud when they first appear.

If your vet strongly feels it is NOT atophy, and the feeling is still demodex, then Ivermectin may apply - along with several other miticides your vet may recommend. I would avoid mitaban dips - although vets I respect swear by them I just can't see treating my dog with a chemical I need to wear gloves to apply.

Read up on atopic dermatitis:

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/integumentary_system/atopic_dermatitis/canine_atopic_dermatitis.html

Please report back!

Posted by Chris (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) on 01/12/2015

We rescued a Great Dane who was abandoned tied to a lamp post with tick infestation and mange. She was also severely malnourished.The vet gave her an injection at the humane society to remove the ticks and shortly after the mange got worse, her whole body erupted in sores and lost all her fur with bleeding from the sores we tried everything she had treatment from the vet antibiotics, injections anti fungal soap, we tried coconut oil, aloe vera and yoghurt until we found borax which is not commonly available here. It is not easy to have enough solution to soak a Great Dane so we soaked her paws first in a small bucket as well as her ears and tail and finally use a small towel to sponge the solution on, initially we do find it twice a week which healed the bleeding sores in over a week and susequently in a month her fur started to grow back. I tapered the treatment to once a week after 2 months and after 3 months I stopped the treatment and the lesions started reappearing even though she is now receiving oral vitamins and is of normal weight. My question is does anyone have any experience as to how long they used the solution for with severe mange ?

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/13/2015

Hey Chris!

If you are dealing with sarcoptic mange mites, then unless and until you can treat the entire dog you cannot obtain a full cure. Given that borax is hard to come by in your area, consider treating your dog for mange with powdered flower of sulpher mixed with coconut oil. The mange mite has a 3 week life span, and treatment - provided you can treat the entire dog each and every treatment - should be three times the first week, followed by once per week thereafter for a 12 week time span.

When dealing with sarcoptic mange you have to treat the entire house -and in particular the areas where your dog hangs out - to prevent your dog from becoming contaminated again [which sounds like what is going on ].

You may find the little borax you have put to better use in the water to help fight infection from the inside out.

Posted by Kristint (St Paul, MN) on 12/27/2014

[YEA]  Demodectic mange: We've been treating our new to us dog Louie with the Ted's Mange Treatment and have to say are very pleased with the results after about 5 treatments.

I recently started adding a bit of coconut oil, both to work as a carrier oil to have the treatment solution more deeply penetrate the skin, as well as to add some moisturizing effects as I'm concerned about the effects of such frequent bathing drying out the skin (and we live in MN with cold dry air). I also added a bit of neem to the solution. In between treatments with Ted's solution, we've been putting diluted neem on the visible spots. Additionally we've been brushing his fur daily using a Zoom Broom, and brushing his teeth. Louie's kibble is already grain free and fairly high quality (can't quite afford the whole raw food diet thing). He's been getting 2x daily fish oil, and we also added a canine formulary nutritional supplement with pre and pro-biotics.

My question is how long to keep doing 2x weekly baths, and how to taper off. It seems to be working, but I am concerned about the drying effects on his skin. My gut is telling me that it is time to cut back to 1x weekly, seeing how he does, and if it still seems to be improving, then to cut back to 1x ~10 days, and keep cutting back from there, ie. 2 wks, monthly, quarterly? I haven't really been able to find guidelines for how to taper and when to stop all together.

I look forward to your feedback. Thank you.

Replied by Janet
St Charles, Mo
01/08/2015

Do we need to use a collar for this remedy?
Replied by Briana
Faribault, Minnesota
02/18/2015

Hello, I saw your post on how you live in MN and were wondering what you did for the dry skin as I live in minnesota also and I have a 4 month old German shorthair mix and she got it. I haven't done this treatment yet as I am scared about her licking herself after the fact even if its dry? I would really appriciate your response!
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/19/2015

Hey Briana!

You can give your dog Evening Primrose oil - 1 capsule in the food am and pm to help with the dry skin. You can also use a moisturizing shampoo on alternate days from the mange dip.

I have used the mange dip many times and my dogs have never had any issues with licking the remedy up!

Posted by Neil (Cleveland, Oh.) on 12/24/2014

[YEA]  i started treating my dog (a couple year old rhodesian ridgeback mix) a couple days ago using Teds H2O2 and borax solution. I did a 2nd dip last night and am all ready seeing the remedy do its magic. I mixed up about 1 gallon of water with 1% hydrogen peroxide and about a 1/2 cup of borax. the dog doesnt like baths but didnt object too much although he definitely wanted to get out of the tub asap. my dog has a loss of hair on her rear end mostly and her skin looked blackened in areas on her belly and spots on her back. before dipping the dog I was very carefully examining her skin using my thumb and moving it slowly across the hairs on her side when I 1st spotted one of the nasty critters! They are very tiny about the size of the head of a straight pin maybe smaller and black. so I know she has sarcoptic mange and I have faith that the treatment will work and I will post back later. as regards using hydrogen peroxide I have detoxed my system of heavy metals using 35% food grade H2O2. I started out using one drop mixed with about 4-6 ounces of distilled water increasing 1 drop per day up to 24 drops mixed with the distilled water at a rate of 2X per day. once at 24 drops I decreased 1 drop per day down to 0 drops after 24 days. you can also do a detox regimen alternating the H2O2 with MSM (the active ingredient in DMSO). as in one day use the H2O2 and the next day use MSM following instructions on a heavy metal detox web site using natural cures.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
12/24/2014

Hey Neil!

I have used the remedy many times and it is a winner for sure!

I do have to say, it sounds like you are dealing with fleas; I say this because both sarcoptic mange mites and demodectic mange mites can only be seen with a microscope. Fleas, on the other hand, are about the size of a pin head and black, and due to the areas they feed on - tail end - usually causes hair loss on the rump due to the dog chewing its skin to scratch the itch.

There is no harm in continuing using Ted's remedy, but you may have better luck using it at the correct strength; 48 oz of a 1% solution of hydrogen peroxide takes about 1 heaping cup of borax, so IMHO you are using way too little borax. Also it sounds as if you are using food grade H2O2, which the dime store variety will work just fine for the skin dip; the brown bottle is a 3% solution, so just dump it into the gallon jug and fill up the empty brown bottle twice to get 48oz of a 1% solution - and then just add your cup of borax.

Another thing to consider is a flea trap. All you need is a small desk lamp, place it on the floor in the dog's area and place a white plate under the lamp. Add water mixed with dish soap and turn the light on at night, then check for black specks in the morning. Move the trap from room to room to quickly clear out the fleas.

Good luck!

Replied by Kristint
Stpaul
12/27/2014

Glad to find this remedy for demodectic mange. And while fleas have not been an issue for us (knock on wood) I will keep the flea trap in mind. thanks y'all.
Replied by Kitty
Chapala, Mexico
01/04/2015

Have 7 rescues. 2 Shar pei (rescued for 25 yrs.), 4 Chihuahuas & xoloitzquintle. 7th is less than 1 lb. Chihuahua who I grabbed because she was sooo weak and ill with sarcoptic mange that she would have died. Vet is treating with Frontline spray 1x week. I'm using all the natural recipes, one every few hours on the 5-7th day out. Others are itching a bit, soo hard to isolate. I've put on their drops. I only had advantix which is not the premier drug for treatment. I'll get Revolution if I can get it here and treat them again in 1.5-2 wks. Am using naturals on them also. blah, blah. I can't keep washing everything. It has been a little chilly here 68 now so things don't get dry well. I have been putting on a heating pad in the babies bed. I'm wondering if that heat will kill the mites and if I turn my electric blanket on high and leave it for a few hours, if it might kill them? Anybody have thoughts? I really can't afford the electric bills from heating or washing but could move the heating pad around to everyones' bed too. Please help, thanks!
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/04/2015

Hey Kitty!

Do NOT turn up your heating pad in an attempt to kill mites - it won't work, and blah, blah - you will burn your house down [seriously].

You might consider diatomaceous earth spread liberally around your house and in the pet areas, and on the pets as well; avoid inhaling and getting into eyes and mucous membranes, and if applied to the pets make sure you work it down to the skin.

Posted by Emmes (Indianapolis, IN) on 11/25/2014

After contracting demodex from their mother, 3 "chugs" started losing hair around their eyes, muzzles, head and soon, all over - at about 3 months old.

They were scraped and diagnosed with demodex mange. One of the pups went to live with a friend of mine.

Her vet put her pup on Ivermectin, antibiotics and to date, she is completely mange free (8 months old).

My vet put the 2 pups on steroids, medicated shampoo, antibiotics (after) and wanted to "dip" them when they got older.

After all of this, the male (more Chihuahua) looks like a Cancer patient. He has very little hair growing back, still no hair on his legs, but has some on his feet, and his back looks like elephant skin that is crusty and smelly.

The vet told me not to bathe them more than 2x/month, as it would dry out their skin .. but their skin is dried out anyway.

The female (more Pug) has a lot more hair on her back, but her nose is crusty, legs are hairless and so is most of her tail. She has hair on her feet, and they both never lost the hair on their ears (go figure).

I'd be happy to send first photos and what they look like now to show the difference. I don't believe the $400 I spent at the vet (over time) has helped them at all.

I think feeding them canned tuna (kept them from eating their own poop when I wasn't looking, too) with their puppy food, washing their bedding in hot water, changing their bedding every day, fresh water has helped their immune system fight back .. but not enough.

That said, I'm getting ready to try the mange recipe with Borax and diluted Hydrogen Peroxide. My only concern is trying to keep them from licking themselves dry if I put them in their kennel after the treatment.

Plus, they're such cold natured animals, and it's chilly here in Indiana .. so I wouldn't want them to catch their death. I have a heater in the room their kennel is in just to keep them warm. I tend to like it a little cooler in my house, personally.

I'm going to try this treatment every other day for the first week, then down to 2x/week for a few weeks and 1x/week the remaining weeks for a total of 8 weeks.

Any advice or further guidance for me before I start this journey? I will be bathing the dogs first before treating, as recommended.

Thanks

~ Emmes

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/26/2014

Hey Emmes!

Were all three pups scraped and diagnosed with demodex by the same vet? The two very different treatment methods suggest the 1 pup treated by your friend's vet was the traditional treatment, but the steroids/antibiotics/medicated shampoo route sounds as if your vet was treating for allergies. Unless your vet is totally incompetent [it happens], they treated your chugs for allergies because there was good reason to. So, be aware that your two keepers may have allergies along with demodex.

That said, if these were my puppies I would:

Check the groceries; switch to a grain free diet if you are not presently feeding a grain free diet. Consider supplementing with vitamin C [for immune support], Echinacea and Goldenseal [for infection].

Alkalize your dogs drinking water. All the dogs can drink this. Use 1 teaspoon of baking soda into 1 liter of water, and have this be their ONLY drinking water. If they avoid the water because it tastes funny, start out with a smaller dose; 1/4 baking soda to 1 liter of water for 3 days, then 1/2 for 3 days then bump up to 1 teaspoon and do that for 7 days. After 7 days you can go back down to a maintenance dose of 1/4 teaspoon per liter.

I would do the mange dip up to 3 times the first week, and then once per week after that, for the next 13 weeks. The reason for this bathing schedule is that the first 3 dips knock out the adult population of mites, so after that you only need to dip weekly to clear out any newly hatched adult mites. It sounds as if you are also dealing with a secondary staph infection, so I would also use on days that are not dip days the anti-staph/anti-fungal remedy not as a full body dip, but in a spritz bottle and target the smelly spots. If this regime really dries out the skin I would also bath on alternate days in a soothing oatmeal & lavender shampoo, and also supplement am & pm with Evening Primrose Oil capsule.

As to your concern about them licking the mange remedy, it won't hurt them, actually might help them, and if they manage to lap up a fair bit of it you may see loose stools - but they can in no way 'overdose'; this remedy is *very* safe. It would be a good idea to turn up the space heater and warm the kennel room - or crate the dogs in a smaller room and use the space heater. To ensure the dip gets enough time to *work* make sure you keep them wet in the tub for at least 15-20 minutes [30 is ideal] and then have them sit wet in the crate for another half an hour, and then let them out to air or blow dry after that.

Replied by Kristint
Stpaul
12/27/2014

I'm curious about the recommendation to add baking soda to the pets drinking water. Baking soda contains high amounts of sodium, which seems like not a good idea to add to their diet.
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
12/27/2014

Hey Kristint!

Start here and keep reading :-)

http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/baking_soda.html

Replied by Kady
Texas, Usa
01/24/2015

Do not use an oatmeal based shampoo on a dog with demodex. The mites will feed on the oatmeal just as they do the yeast from the secondary infection. This is also why their carb intake should be limited.

A benzoyl peroxide shampoo that is antimicrobial will open the pores where the mites live and allow the borax solution to penetrate. Being antimicrobial will aid in keeping the yeast down. Most of these are soap free and moisturize the skin.

Wiping the dog down on non-dip days with a diluted betadine solution also keeps the secondary infection down. Using the solution twice a day is even better. Neem is quite helpful and most health food stores with a pet section will have neem products ready for use.

Demodex is tough and while the borax solution will kill the mites the dogs diet and stress has to be addressed so they do not return.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/24/2015

Great thoughts, Kady!

I just wanted to point out that a benzoyle peroxide shampoo is not necessary as Ted's Mange Remedy is peroxide based; the peroxide does work as a penetrant and the borax acts as a miticide.

Additionally, demodex mites do not feed on carbs or yeast - they eat sebum/skin oil and skin cells/protien. The oatmeal shampoo is OK to use on irritated skin - and the use of Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy will also work at knocking down a secondary skin infection in dogs who are battling demodex.

Demodex mites will not return if the remedy is properly applied; if the mites do return, an underlying undiagnosed health condition is likely present.

Posted by Lynne (Scottsbluff, Ne) on 11/03/2014

I have a 2 yr old Husky who started having problem around his eyes last April. No matter to speak of, just kept itching his eyes and the skin looked red around the eyes, then got a couple of spots next to his nose that I wasn't sure what they were. Vet said allergies, gave him steroid shot, Ivermectin and benadryl & prednisone to take home. Vet didn't do skin scraping, thought spots on nose might be staph infection. Eyes cleared up & spots on nose but he has continued to itch/lick/bite "hot spots" which were on chest, down both front legs, inside of back legs and up into groin. Some days he looked like he was on fire!! A month ago I went to a different vet as I was not seeing any improvement and this vet diagnosed mange, which I had already pretty much decided was the problem. They gave him one treatment of Revolution and antibiotics.

Have not noticed any improvement. I found this website a week ago and have now done 3 baths with the mange treatment. One of my questions is beings my dog HATES baths, I am not able to sponge the solution over him for the recommended 15 min., let alone 30!! However I have gotten him completely wet with the solution. Am I accomplishing anything if I can't do the recommended sponging time? I noticed right after each bath his chest & front legs seems to be soothed from the itching. I have tried, olive oil/tea tree oil, Avon Skin so Soft, Benadryl lotion, calamine lotion, Aloe Vera, Bag Balm, Tri-Care skin/wound cream and some I can't remember for the itching. Again, he HATES having anything rubbed on the hot areas and then wants to lick it all off. I also have a collar which I have had on him almost constant for the past week. If he can't get to the areas to lick or itch they clear up some. If he gets the collar off within an hour his skin is fire red again.

I am frustrated, tired of paying vet bills and most of all feel horrible that I can't find some relief for my poor guy. Just wondering if anyone has any other suggestions? I also have an 11 yr old Chocolate lab who has no signs or symptoms like my Husky. Any help is much appreciated!!

Thank you.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/03/2014

Hey Lynne!

It sounds like your vets did all the right things presenting symptom-wise. I agree with the first vet - I think you are dealing with an allergy issues, particularly in light of the second vet's diagnosis of sarcoptic mange and the treatment with Revolution. I would have expected to see results were it sarcoptic mange and yet nothing.

Normally when you can saturate the dog in the solution and leave it on for 30 minutes, it allows the treatment to penetrate the skin, into the pores and hair follicles. With full penetration, the treatment has a lasting effect of about 24 hours.

You have noticed the remedy has brought your dog a brief respite after a partial treatment. Since we know it's not mange, then bacteria/staph and yeast are the next culprits.

Ted posted on this in 2006:

"I would bathe the dog or apply a lotion made of magnesium hydroxide (milk of magnesia) with some epsom salt (in one cup of milk of magnesia, I may add 2-4 tablespoons of epsom salt). If that works then I might add a small amount 1/16 teaspoon of epsom salt in one liter of drinking water for only a couple of days. If the dog has low magnesium, quite often allergy shows up. For a yeast or even most ailments of the dog, 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda added to the drinking water for a couple of days will also reduce the yeast infection. The yeast infection issue is due to a fungus, which if borax 1/16 teaspoon is added along with the baking soda in one liter of water can also take care of it. Besides those remedies also addresses dog's nutritional deficiency for bicarbonates and boron, and even if it does not directly address a very specific condition, the dog will generally get better and in some cases get cured, because of a deficiency issue. It's all about trying them out when I know those remedy are designed to address deficiency issue which makes it important that those should at least be addressed first."

Ted has many ideas to consider! When my pack breaks out in the itchies I do 1 teaspoon of baking soda to 1 liter of drinking water and do this for 5 days as a crisis dose; I then go down to 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda for another week, and then down to 1/4 teaspoon for maintenance until everything is healed up.

One thing to also consider that has not been discussed is your dog's diet. Allergy dogs need top of the line diets - no grocery store kibble, nothing with red dyes or added sugars, and no grains. Check the label on the brand you feed as a dietary adjustment may be needed.

Please report back!

Replied by Lynne
Scottsbluff, Ne
11/04/2014

I have photos I wanted to post with my question but can't figure out how to do it. Help?

EC: Hi Lynne, please email your photos (no more than 400 pixels wide) to ec1@earthclinic.com and we'll add them to your thread.

Replied by Om
Hope Bc Canada
11/04/2014

Hi Lynne --- can you try coconut oil mixed with turmeric 1 : 20. Turmeric is also anti-inflammatory.

Just a suggestion. Namaste, Om

Replied by Lynne
Scottsbluff, Ne
11/05/2014

I will try.....thank you!!
Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/15/2014

Hi! Lynn, Revolution is a pesticide and a neurotoxin . It will compromise your dogs immune system. Ask your Vet if he puts it on his kids before they go out to play. Feed your dog a diversified raw meat diet, no veggies or ANYTHING else. Try "Reel Raw Co." dog food!!!! . Ivermectin is also a neurotoxin, prednisone, antibiotics , will also compromise your dogs immune system. The Vets get us on a merry go round The pesticide kills the mites , damages the immune system , the mites come back and your nice Vet makes more money. You don't have to poison your dog to keep her well. Mite infestation is a low immune system problem, feed your dog species appropriate food and eliminate stress. and eventually her immune system will keep your dog healthy unless she has some serious illness. Lots of exercise . Be patient it takes a good while for your dog to get healthy. Stop the shots and flea and tick and heart worm poisons and don't believe your vet. Investigate cures on the internet and don't treat your dog for things she doesn't have with monthly preventatives. Keep using Teds treatment and add organic apple cider vinegar, a couple oz.s to a pint unless she is raw , then it might burn. It can take up to a year or more so again be patient. Love my Amber, Yours, Robert
Replied by Thestarseed
Bradenton, Fl
02/23/2015

Hi, I hope things are better for you in regards to the mange. I thought I would respond because this is the second post on this thread about tea tree oil and dogs. Tea tree oil is highly toxic to dogs. I read a post the other day here on EC from a woman who used TTO on her dog, and she reported the dog started convulsions and seizure like activity. I would love to hear your progress with your dog.

Posted by Colleen (Sanford, NC) on 10/19/2014

[YEA]  Harley is a 4 1/2 year old pit bull/lab mix. Our vet told us about 2 years ago that he had demodectic mange and a weak immune system due to heredity. Harley also has repeated ear infections. He gave us Promeris. I began using it and it did seem to help at first, but his mange came back with a vengeance and I haven't been able to get it under control.

He has developed skin infections from the constant scratching that made parts of his skin rough like elephant skin, and even scratches to the point of bleeding. He has hair loss on his entire trunk/chest, legs, and around his eyes and top of head. I have changed his food to Nutro Natural Choice, started him on a multi-vitamin, and have been using GNC antibacterial/antifungal shampoo/conditioner. This all has helped a little, but not nearly enough.

I have read about this treatment before, but was always hesitant in the past - afraid of possible side effects and safety. I decided to try it and after one treatment, I have noticed an improvement. Harley has hardly scratched and appears a lot more comfortable and less miserable. The redness is also disappearing. I plan on continuing this treatment in hopes that it rids him of this problem.

My question, though, is since his vet said he had a hereditary condition and weak immunity that makes him susceptible to mange and the ear infections, is there anything that can be done to prevent it from returning?

Thank you, Colleen

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/19/2014

Hey Colleen!

Demodex is typically a puppy affliction; in a 4.5 year old adult, something else is going on .. IF you are *still* dealing with demodex.

Has your dog had a recent scraping to confirm the demodex?

What it sounds like from my end of the keyboard is that your dog has a yeast problem and not so much a mite issue.

That said, continue the mange dips if you are seeing progress, and if that progress appears to reach a plateau I would switch over to Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph dip. I make it up in big batches and bathe the entire dog in the same way you do for the mange dipping. Wash the dog first, rinse well, let drip dry as much as possible in the tub and then stopper up the tub and pour the [warmed] dipping solution over the dog and use a plastic cup to scoop up the solution and pour over the dog again and again for at least 20 minutes. Then put sopping WET into a crate with no bedding and allow to drip dry for another half an hour, and then let him out and towel him off and let him fully air dry.

This is what you need for the dip:

Milk of magnesia

Borax

Epsom salt

Hydrogen peroxide. The drugstore sells the 3% solution, and you need a 1% solution, so to get that you take 1 part 3% and add 2 parts water.

So, to make a small batch take 1/3 cup 3% hydrogen peroxide, and add 2/3 cup plain water and to that add 1 tablespoon each of the MOM, borax and Epsom salts. Double or quadruple this as necessary to fill a gallon jug. Then place the jug in a tub warm water to warm it up, and when the temp of the bath water is nice and cozy, bathe your dog - and then when it is time to use the solution it will be of a comfortable temperature for your dog. This treatment is good for 24 hours/working effect for 24 hours; you may find it helpful to bathe daily if the topical yeast is out of control, and then reduce to weekly or twice weekly.

In addition to the baths you might consider a grain free food if the current diet is not grain free already. Multivitamin is good, but you might also consider Echinacea and goldenseal combo for 2 weeks, as well as upping the vitamin c. In between Ted's treatments you can bathe with a soothing formulation that includes oatmeal and aloe and lavender to help calm the skin.

Lastly you might consider alkalizing your dog's drinking water; by altering is PH you make the entire dog less appetizing for yeast or mange. Some dogs readily accept baking soda water, some need to build up to it. A maximum dose is 1 teaspoon per liter of water for 5 days and then drop down to a maintenance dose of 1/4 or 1/2 teaspoon per liter of water; have this water be his only source of drinking water.

There are additional approaches using sea salt water and or borax in the water but start with the baking soda and monitor your results for at least 1 week if not 2 and report back.

Posted by Christine (Columbus, Oh) on 10/15/2014

I'm wondering if you can help me identify if my pup has demodectic mange.

I know her immune system is poor and she has been diagnosed with severe allergies/intense itching, which we've been dealing with since she was 6 months old.

She was put on a raw diet over a year ago and I've seen a massive improvement overall in her itching and general disposition! Additionally, she is not suffering as frequently from the cycle of nonstop itch-open wound-infection-secondary yeast infection. It is typically during this cycle that she begins to get black circles on her sides and belly. Those circles have, many times, turned into full black skin. A vet had suggested that the black skin circles (which spread across her trunk and lady bits) were simply caused by the yeast blooms.

After reading your site, I am suspecting she might have demodectic mange. Overall, her skin looks good (relative to its usual state) but she is beginning to develop more black circles. I've begun the treatment described on your website and am attaching some photos before treatment. We are only 4 treatments in at this point.

Thank you!
~Christine

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/16/2014

Hey Christine!

Demodectic mange typically starts off as small bare spots on the coat, very often on the face first. The bare spots then turn reddish in color -hence the nick name 'red mange'. Demodex typically is not itchy; secondary skin infections caused by staph or yeast can cause intense itching. This type of mange is not contagious.

Sarcoptic mange -aka scabies - can be picked up from wildlife, and can spread to people as well as other pets, and can be very itchy.

It is entirely possible your dog picked up sarcoptic mange, however I do agree with your vet re: black patches of skin = yeast bloom. Your vet could perform skin scrapes to confirm the demodex if you are certain you are dealing with demodex.

You may find that Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy provides more relief than the mange remedy - JMHO! In addition, if you are indeed dealing with yeast, you might consider the addition of probiotics in your dog's diet, and might consider alkalizing her water and /or other water treatments to fight the yeast from the inside out.

Posted by Robert (Reading, Pa) on 10/10/2014

I have been using Teds remedy for three + weeks. My chocolate brown pit bull is now a blond. I saw a little improvement in scratching after the first treatment but she is back to chewing and scratching again. I treated her three times a week for two weeks then twice a week. She is losing a lot of fur all over and the initial two spots the size if a nickel seem the same. Should I be shampooing her right before or in between treatments or just let the treatments buildup ? Her skin seems dry. Is there anything additional you can recommend ?

Thanks, Robert

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/10/2014

Hey Robert!

You should be shampooing your dog right before the treatments - so shampoo, rinse, and then treatment. I would also have no problem bathing her 24 hours later in a soothing shampoo with such ingredients as oatmeal. If you did 3x a week and then 2x a week you should be able to reduce it to once per week at this point.

Was your girl scraped to confirm demodex? Itchy skin often has a secondary infection such as staph. You might consider a staph dip - scroll down the latest pet posts for the formula [or I will post later]. Also consider adding an oil to her food - evening primrose oil can help with dry skin, as can salmon oil in the chow. Also consider some of the advice to Om for her dog with ear gunk re: water additives to help combat yeast internally [scroll down through latest pet posts to find or I will post later].

One thing to do is to feed top groceries - no Purina, rather think Fromm, Taste of the Wild, and the like.

I have a thing for red noses - please report back!!

Replied by Lizzy
Asheville, US
10/10/2014

Hi Robert,

I have been having similar issues with my dog for quite some time now. Ted's mange cure did not work. What HAS been helping the most (but must be done regularly) is applying organic apple cider vinegar mixed with water (50/50) and a teaspoon or more of DMSO. I apply it to all the areas that he is red and inflamed, which is around his hips and along his spine, under his armpits and the bottoms of his feet. If an area is too inflamed, it will really burn, so you must dilute the apple cider vinegar even more with water. I apply it while he is eating a meal to distract him. The DMSO (found online at amazon.com) is fantastic at dropping a remedy below the skin's surface. I use bleach free paper towels to apply the mixture. I have tested this mixture on myself several times and have had no side effects. But do read up on DMSO before you use it as you need to be careful with it.

Last week, upon my holistic vet's suggestion, I switched him to a raw food beef diet (Nature's Variety, very expensive) and include human grade probiotics, vitamin E and fish oil with every meal. I haven't seen much change yet, unfortunately.

Another thing that will help is baths every 3-4 days with Selsun Blue medicinal shampoo and finish off with a 50/50 apple cider vinegar rinse. There's a post on Earth Clinic detailing the Selsun Blue protocol. It is definitely the best shampoo I have tried so far, including 2 the vet gave me.

Apparently a LOT of dogs are suffering from skin issues these days and it's very challenging to figure out what will help them. Good luck!

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/11/2014

One thought for Lizzy:

If Selsun Blue is providing you results you are not dealing with mange, rather you are dealing with yeast. The Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy should prove more effective than the mange remedy in this case, and anti yeast protocols would apply.

Replied by Robert
Reading Pa
10/13/2014

Thanks, Theresa . She has had scrapings in three areas which confirmed demodex. She was eating Fromms and then Merick but I am feeding her pre-measured raw food from Reel Raw dog food company which is a great company with incredible customer service. I will follow your instructions and shampoo her prior to treating her. Thanks From me and my sweet red nose. Have a happy day, Robert
Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
10/13/2014

Thanks a bunch Lizzy, for your help. I am feeding Amber raw food from Reel Raw dog food company which is human grade USDA approved . You might want to check them out. They have a pre-measured, daily, individually wrapped service according to the dogs weight. Their customer service, Alissa, is incredible. Not cheap but when I considered the shopping, organizing, and wrapping it saves me, it is not a bad deal at all. Thanks again and have a Happy Day, Robert
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/14/2014

Hey Robert!

One other thought: the next day after the mange dip, you could bathe her in an oatmeal based soothing shampoo, and I would add to that essential oil of lavender.

Also, how old is your girl? Demodex is typically an affliction of puppies, however in mature, adult dogs the development of demodex is typically associated with an underlying disease condition, ie hypothyroid, cancer, severe bacterial infection.

Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
10/14/2014

Hi! Lizzy, An afterthought. I have seen such an improvement in Amber after starting her on the Reel Raw food it is amazing!!! More energy, smaller stools and she just seems more alive . The meals are balanced with no fillers, blueberries, broccoli, grains or any other junk that dogs can't digest, Just top quality diversified meat. I hope this is helpful to you. Love my dogs, Robert
Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
10/14/2014

Hi! Again Theresa, Amber is a rescue so I am not sure of her age, somewhere between one and three. She had a litter, was abandoned, was given flea and tick topical poison, given shots, maybe heart worm meds, an hysterectomy, and put in a rescue kennel . Enough stress to compromise her immune system, I think, leading maybe to a demodex population increase, She doesn't look like she has had the demodex all her life so I am hoping lots of love, no stress and good food will help her bounce back. Thanks a lot for your information, you have been a real help . I am almost out of shampoo so I will try an oatmeal based type this time . The poor girl is not happy with all these baths and doesn't go near the bathroom anymore. Oh well. Have a super day Theresa, Robert
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/15/2014

Hey Robert!

The brief known history you provided for Amber sounds like the perfect storm for an outbreak of demodex.

It sounds like you are doing all the right things for Amber. I would next consider nutritional supplements for the immune system - adding 500mg vitamin C to each meal, and also dosing Echinacea and kelp. I would use these nutritionals for 3 weeks and check results.

Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/14/2014

Hey Theresa , Well another month has gone by and guess what, no more scratching and chewing . The combo of Reel Raw dog food And Teds Cure have worked wonders. The Vets, three of them, recommended Ivermectin neurotoxin and antibiotics which deplete the immune system which is the cause of the outbreak in the first place. These greedy Vets disgust me. I will keep in touch, Theresa, and as always thanks for your help to me and so many others. When Amber turns chocolate again, I'll send a picture.

Love my Amber, Robert

Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/15/2014

Hi! Again Lizzy and Teresa , I am familiar with DMSO but I wouldn't use it on Amber , For me it is too invasive . Organic Apple cider added to Ted's remedy might help and it has no side affects. The reason dogs have so many health issues, cancer, skin problems etc come from the 100 year history of money making Commercial dog food, shots, the poisonous flea and tick topical treatment and heart worm cure. etc. Dogs have changed in appearance but their physiology is still the same as the wolves they are descended from . A wolfs life span is up to 27 years or so . Get away from Natures Variety please. Switch to "Reel Raw " brand dog food. It will take a year or so but many of your dogs issues will resolve themselves . No junk food treats at all, they digest differently than raw food and will defeat your purpose. REMEMBER if you would 't put it on your little boy or girl DON'T put it on your dog!!!!! Thanks for all your suggestions and input. Love my Amber, Robert
Replied by Sid
Illinois, US
11/15/2014

Robert,

It warms my heart to hear that your pup is doing well. I'm only one week into this demon-dex journey so we'll see how it goes. You give me hope for my sweet boy.

I hear you on the greedy vets, although I think they're simply following the carrot that's dangled in front of them by the pharmaceutical companies. Those corporations are the big boys that are pushing all of the drugs and vaccines to the vets. Unfortunately for our wonderful companions, there's a lot of damaged left behind.

We rescued our black lab 4.5 years ago (really, he rescued us) and from day one he's been sick with ear infections, itchiness, fatigue, seizures, rashes, hot spots and just all around strange behavior - like licking furniture and walls and car seats. So we started our rounds of doctors and treatments and nothing was working. Now I'm a freak when it comes to healthy food, so I was very suspicious when one doc kept pushing his featured kibble that was NOT healthy. The last straw was when they prescribed Fluoroquinolone for my boy's ear infection. Hah. There's a reason they're doing tendon repair on more and more dogs. No way. I walked out and never looked back. It's not hard to see why immune systems are on a rapid downward spiral.

So long story-short. G eats raw, grassfed, organic diet that I prepare at home. We finally conquered his ear infection by using Allimax Allicin, just this past summer. And now he has demodex mites. Goodness, he deserves a break. I just started seeing a new vet who knows how to treat vaccine injured dogs so we shall see.

I've done three Ted baths and G gets a massage 3 times a week anyway, so I just rub him down with olive oil, lavendar, peppermint and clove oil. I can't say I see a big difference yet, but I'm hopeful.

Once one researches vaccine ingredients, the lightbulb turns on. It's not good. Edgar Crookshank proved it long ago that vaccines are a fraud. There's no reason to have egg, insect cells, human serum (I let you guess where they get these cells), bovine serum (they use downer cattle from factory farms and euthanized animals from research labs), mycoplasms, bacteriophages, prions, mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, etc. injected into our beloved companions (or humans for that matter). Zero reason. People are waking up, though, so I think it will all be good. Notice how the ebola fear mongering was in the news 24/7 and then it just disappeared. Yeah, people are onto the scam. I ran into my old vet a few weeks ago and I told him what I'd learned - he admitted that he knows NOW and apologized. He knows vaccines cause all this damage - so even the vets can wake up. Hah.

Gonna keep on fighting that demon-dex. Blessings to all.

Sid

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/17/2014

Hey Robert!

Glad for this news! It is so important to keep in mind that healing takes *time* - and so glad you hung in there and invested the time to heal Amber. :-)

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc, Canada
11/18/2014

Hi, Robert, just to say I thoroughly agree with you.

Namaste, Om

Replied by Robert
Reading Pa
11/18/2014

Hi! Theresa, With your help all things are possible. Where do you find the time? I hope you are appreciated because you sure should be. Thanks, Robert. Lovemyamber
Replied by Robert
Reading Pa
11/19/2014

Hi! Sid, I do a lot of reading and some of the things that are happening make me sick. The dogs euthanized in shelters are thrown in rendering plants along with road kill, spoiled food from supermarkets, wrappers and all, and anything they can get their hands on. The poison used in the injection to kill the animals has been found in big commercial pet food and farm animal feeds. All Govt. approved. Dogs & cats fall under agriculture laws an have no protection. In order to protect them they would have to stop using dogs for experiments so it will never change. Sad huh! Robert lovemyamber
Replied by Robert
Reading Pa
11/19/2014

Hi! Sid, Don't forget, the raw meats and organs need to be diversified. I tried shopping and preparing a diversified diet and it was a nightmare. It took forever. I found this Company on the internet called Reel Raw that will ship frozen, USDA approved, human grade meat to your door. It is all pre-packaged according to your dogs weight and has a balanced selection of meats , meaty bones and organs. It is a little expensive but when you factor in the convenience its a good deal, and to me, my Amber is worth more than anything , cars, fancy clothes , expensive dinners, etc. She comes first. Good luck, Robert Lovemyamber
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/19/2014

Hey Robert!

Glad to be of help to you - and Amber!

Anything for a pit bull I say! BEST breed ever! :-)

Replied by Robert
Reading, Pa
11/20/2014

Hi! Theresa, A story put out by the raw meat diet company Reel Raw. A female dog was producing puppies infected with demodex. They stopped every thing but a balanced raw meat diet, not to be confused with a raw food diet, ie veggies etc. A year later her litters were demodex free. I am thinking I sound like a salesman but I just want others to see the results I have seen. Interesting story anyway and makes sense. Robert Lovemyamber
Replied by Robert
Reading Pa
11/20/2014

Hi! Sid, I wanted to mention that I still continue to treat Amber even though the scratching and chewing have stopped. It will take a while for her immune system to get strong again and I see a need for a maintenance program to make sure she doesn't experience any setbacks while she is healing. I told Teresa, Amber had a litter, was abused and abandoned, had an hysterectomy, given flea and tick treatment, shots, heart worm treatment, and was mal and under nourished. Long term love and Patience. Good Luck, Robert Lovemyamber
Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
11/21/2014

Hey Robert!

This story is a common one, and not limited to RAW diets. I know of several cases where the first litter had demodex, and after a grocery upgrade to a better quality kibble subsequent litters did not have demodex.

I do think immune system health plays a role in demodex, I believe diet/nutrition does play a role - particularly as the effects of malnutrition/poor nutrition in the dam affect her progeny for the next 6 generations! However I also believe that the parasite load of the dam is also a huge factor in the parasite load puppies receive and is often overlooked or ignored completely when considering why an animal breaks with demodex.

Replied by Robert
Reading Pa
11/21/2014

Thanks Theresa, for the clarification. Yours, Robert Lovemyamber

Posted by Tim (Fairfield, Ca) on 10/02/2014

Hello, I understand the dilution factor for the H2O2, but it does not indicate how much of the diluted H2O2 to use. Tim

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/03/2014

Hey Tim!

You use as much of the diluted hydrogen peroxide as you need. The key is to make a *saturated* solution with the borax. So if you need a gallon of the 1% h2o2 to bathe your dog, keep adding the borax crystals to the point where they stop dissolving. The correct prepared solution should have undissolved grains swirling around.

Posted by Bobbie (Corpus Christi, Texas) on 09/10/2012

[YEA]  My little dog got demadex mange @ 6mos. I spent $126.00 @ Vet. The dip was so toxic, I looked it up, & antibiotics to boot. After 1st dip my pup felt so bad, just layed around. I new it was to toxic for her, she is very small, so I found Ted's Remedy with Hydro. Peroxide & Borax. SIMPLY AMAZING! Saw results after 1st treatement, treated every other day for 1 wk. Then it was gone. I still put it on her once aweek helps greatly for fleas. All her hair came back rt. away and is beautiful. I would have been dipping her with toxins from Vet until Nov. Thank You so much! I think every kennel. dog lover, etc should know about this!! I wish I would have before I went to Vet.

Posted by Ryan (Peterborough, On,canada) on 07/27/2012

I tried many foolish home remedies to try and stop the severe mange in my 10 month old female beagle. The vet kept telling us it was an allergy but finally after finding this website things began to improve. We used 500 ml of peroxide with 1 litre of water and 3 tablespoons of Borax bath every other day for 2 weeks until the symptoms apppeared a little better. Then we slowed to bathing her every 5 days to 6 days. We have also been giving a daily dose of Ivomec that I purchased at the Co-op in town. The recommended dosage that I was given is 1/10 cc of injectable ivomec per 10 pounds of body weight and this is given orally every day. I found drizzling it over some canned dog food of meat works well.

I am not a vet and I know that some breeds are effected by ivermectin so do your homework about your breed of dog, however this method has been working for us for the last 6 weeks. Almost all of my little girl's fur is back and she has regained her spark for life. Catch mange early and continue to treat even when the symptoms begin to clear. Mange can kill your pet if it is not treated. Thanks to this site for all its help!!

Replied by Val
Decatur, Alabama
07/28/2012

I have seached several post trying to find a solution to my dog having these black fungus spots. I had a friend on facebook post and tell everyone that NEEM OIL (100% cold pressed) cures this and more. Check out neem oil and use this on your pets! It works... Is all natural and you can find it in any health food store. VERY IMPORTANT!!! Make sure you get 100% cold pressed not any that has been diluted with pesticides! I take a dropper full and mix in with shampoo, rinse. Then while my dog is still damp I take dropper full and with gloved hands rub into his coat all over. If it seems a little harsh you can mix with water and spray on and rub in. Use immediately becomes it isn't effective if it sits. No fleas!!! My dog has suffered for years from scratching constantly to the point he had open sores, bleeding and scabs all over. I have tried the 20 mule team borax to no avail. There is no need for all these harsh chemicals that will make your pet sick. I no longer buy flea collars or flea sprays or drops. These black fungus looking spots are drying up and he is one happy little dog! Please try this I bathe him with this once a week or so. Stay with it and you will be amazed!

One side note this stuff stinks! It smells like sulpher. But a small price to pay for our friends being healthy again. He has had no ill side effects from licking his coat after treatments. It says not to ingest but think it means large amounts full strength. It cures fungus, ringworms, mange, can be used on plants for pests. You can use it in your shampoo as well. It is also found in toothpastes. Do some research on it. You will be amazed!!!

Posted by Kimw922 (Youngstown, Oh) on 10/09/2011

[YEA]  After 2 days of using this mixture of Borax and peroxide and apple cider vinegar. I do believe my dog's mange is clearing up. It was pretty bad and she stunk really, really bad. She has not scratched since the first treatment. Keeping fingers crossed. Thanks so much!


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