Acidic pH Remedies: Q&A
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I have candida and food sensitivities and react to the lime/bicarb & citric acid remedy so was hoping I could use the Potassium Citrate/Bicarb for this. If not should I take MSM??
Many thanks Ted for your wonderful contribution.
03/21/2012: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: It does alkalize the cells, but with candida it is often a zinc and copper deficiency, I would try 25 mg zinc gluconate and copper in form of copper chlorophyllin. Fungus grows inside the cells. MSM should be taken as it kills the fungus, such as 1000 mg x 3 times a day.
I do have chronic fatigue syndrome and sleeping hasn't always been great (especially when I introduce new remedies or supplements) however, I really wanted to take this remedy for my candida and multiple chemical/food sensitivities.
Ted, can you please tell me what I can do to reduce this feeling of hyperactivity in my body?? Should I continue to take this remedy and hope it improves (since I have only taken it for 5 days) or should I change to another remedy??
Look forward to hearing from you.
03/21/2012: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Try taking B3 500 mg before you sleep and lugol's solution just one drop. To help the body relax further try chlorophyll and melatonin before sleep. For chronic fatigue I would try lysine 1/4 teaspoon every hour for 3 hours before sleep also may help.
Many thanks to you,
02/19/2009: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: The potassium is the primary method of getting alkaline pH. Actually, extracellular fluids is like a highway system where toxic wastes are rid of from the cells. So getting alkaline urine is important. The exception appears that if a person is deficient of potassium, then it's the intracellular fluids that is acid. Two intracellular fluids are required, magnesium and potassium, and traces of phosphate. In practice potassium will get you alkaline pH fairly quickly, but if the body's accessibility to buffers are limited due to circulation then a carbicarb is required to reach those. In any event, I don't use what present conventional medicine (in Europe, at least) and has long modified them to be a carbicarb + potassium mix. Which technically speaking is a equimolar concentrations of carbicarb. A more powerful potassium is the tripotassium citrate. You have to realize that the alkaline bandwagon started in the early 1990s before it hit popularity with the internet around the late 1990s. However, I have been doing this since the late 1960s, and Dr. Carey Reams started somewhere in the 1970s. My idea wasn't even original one either. It was first suggested by Edgar Cayce the importance of alkaline foods found in vegetables, but I found that inconvenient and settled for baking soda instead. An Australian marketed Unique Water that had Magnesium bicarbonate to alkalized the intracellular fluids which I h ave known that long time before it was even patented. In any event, the primary vehicle to alkalized the salivary pH is fairly quick and I have noticed that you may not have even added potassium citrate (tripotassium citrate), or potassium bicarbonate to a large extent in the dosing in alkalizing, which is why the salivary pH still remains at an acidic range. It appears that the body remains low on potassium and perhaps another one was also ignored, which is the magnesium, preferably magnesium bicarbonate. In practice a magnesium bicarbonate doesn't exist in dry state so i would either use a magnesium citrate or a magnesium chloride to replenish electrolytic deficiency and imbalances in the intracellular makeup of magnesium and potassium. It takes a bit longer to alkalize the salivary pH as opposed to urinary pH. The lag time for urinary pH is only an hour or two, while a potassium pH lags about 12-24 hours. In effect, if regular frequent measurements and proper dose were observed, the potassium's effect of salivary pH would have been noticed anyway. A salivary pH of 5.5 is a seriously distressed body. In any event, there IS a possibility where potassium has little effect on salivary pH. That has a lot to do with poisons added into our food where the body is seriously distressed in metabolic acidosis. That I found came from excitotoxins of aspartame that is now present in thousands of consumer products, including Gatorade, xylitol chewing gums, Clorets, Flintstone vitamins, many effervescent products (such as to reduce stomach acid) that required a much larger dose to neutralize these. Hence, to have any DENT on increasing salivary pH, excitotoxins, such as aspartate (e.g. lithium aspartate, or anything with aspartate name), Monsodium Glutamate, and other amino acids of excitoxins should be avoided as if the neural system is destroyed, the body's natural restoration of pH is affected and both urinary pH and salivary pH is stubborn to change to more alkalinity. A long term metabolic acidosis, especially acid intracellular fluids has a much better chance ot becoming cancer causing. It's also interesting to note that hydrocarbon exposures such as benzene found in softdrinks from the use of sodium benzoate, which breaks down into benzene causes both metabolic acidosis and neural damage.
Whatever the arguments, present researchers have a long way to go in understanding these pH issues. Issues such the body's electrical capacitance, electrical conductance, body's electrical potential, are other issues that had not given importance, the effects of difference buffering, and even something as simple as a electrolyte drinks are currently missign magnesium, the ignorance of the toxicity of lactates and lactose, the hydrocarbon causing metabolic acidosis, are some of the topics today's writers should cover but are only just barely even going beyond baking soda. Has anyone ever had a look at other kinds of buffers yet, besides bicarbonates yet? Such as carbicarb, citrates, etc.?
07/31/2010: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines replies: Hi Ted... A little while ago I read and studied Max Geerson's cancer protocols. One of these protocols was a 10% mix of potassium gluconate, potassium phosphate(monobasic) and potassium acetate in a full glass of water. He would then use doses of 4 teaspoons of this mix in a glass of water and feed it to his patients 10 times a day -- quite large dosages. So I became intrigued with the potassium acetate part and created some sodium acetate in solution myself using rice vinegar and baking soda and took it for a while. In my research on acetates and the Krebs Cycle, I noted that acetates essentially regenerate bicarbonates and mild alkalinity within the cells. But when I had a look at citrates, I noted that these create carbonates at the end of the cell Krebs cycle which behaves in similar ways to bicarbonates with one big difference. Carbonates are far more alkaline than bicarbonates and so wI'll have a much stronger alkalizing effect overall than acetates within the cell. But I confess I am as much impressed with acetates as with citrates, both seem to have there uses.
12/14/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: There's a problem in the article you attached. Sure, an alkaline such as baking soda, your pH will change your urine. An alkaline such as potassium bicarbonate can change your pH in your saliva, but not your blood. But that's the fallacy. The baking soda and potassium bicarbonate have to go into your blood before it goes into the kidney and out into the urine, which causes a change in your urine. Sure, a saliva mysteriously increased pH after taking potassium bicarbonate, so somehow the potassium bicarbonate has mysteriously entered the blood without any changes and only change the saliva. The problem about all these arguments is that if you did your lab work, the blood carbon dioxide is lowered with higher bicarbonate level. Athletes reported less lactic acid buildup whenever soda loading is used. (I have a better method, which uses citrates). Anyone studying biochemistry and growing tissue cultures using lactic acid as a modifier of pH adjustment and buffer will know that lactic acid is toxic even at a biologically optimum pH. This ignores the basic fact that urine becomes acid to very dangerously acidic level that your kidneys get digested by the acid urine, such as pH urine of 4, where the kidney had to be removed and then replaced, only to be rermoved again. An easier solution is just to take baking soda to restore normal healthy pH urine such as 6.5 to 7 and then it doesn't have to be destroyed needlessly. I have also managed to save kidneys by this means, as well as one method of detecting metabolic acidosis after taking methanol, aspartame or formaldehyde, the urine pH goes to about 4-5. This is a very dangerous level such as the body now loses most control of the blood pH it needs to normalized and then death is close at hand. But we are not thinking that this is a continuum. Some foods are acid forming and a urine pH will show that. A coke has very high acid, not because of it's phosphoric acid, it's acid for sure, but we avoid the effects of hydrocarbons, such as benzene, from the breakdown of benzoic acid preservative found in most sodas. Now benzene if is a hydrophobic substances the body has limited means to rid of this by the kidney since kidneys only handle water, so it gets recirculated into the liver, and the liver becomes toxic. So if ever the blood pH is not normal, the urine pH is very acid. But in a continuum, many foods that we like to eat, about 90% of them are acid forming.
Now I am not siding with anyone, I don't agree with the use of coral calcium or calcium carbonate as a method of controlling pH. The body has limited means ot utilizing them and both saliva pH, urine pH and blood carbon dioxide isn't effected that much. Hence, sodium bicarbonate, potassium bicarbonate, potassium citrate, and sodium citrates are more effective in raising blood oxygen and lower blood carbon dioxide. It's also used in medicine to help revival of dogs to prevent brain damage after a stroke, using the carbicarb (equimolar concentration of sodium carbonate plus potassium bicarbonate). Apparently during a stroke or a poor blood circulation, as in economy class syndrome, acidity level is raised in the brain so such an extent that the neural cells is destroyed. Doctor's never bother to care about measuring the pH in the brain and it's easy to say in the blood, because it's not convenient, but acid brain is what kills you. I had a person with astenia, a condition where a person cannot sleep and this problem remained for 10 years, until I found his brain to be acid, while blood pH is normal. Upon using the carbicarb, he was able to sleep normally and while he is well into his 60s now started acting more youthful and active as the neurodegenerative conditions, don't occur because the brain doesn't have excessive carbon dioxide and acid pH. People may argue all they want until the cows come home, but when I am dyingÂ do we need skeptics and just die? I really need to find a way out and I have found many.
11/09/2012: Cl from Los Angeles, Ca replies: Dear Ted, Thank you for all your info! I am very confused however, about what to take for proper PH. You mention baking soda, but also some other things, like citrates? Also, what dose of baking soda should a person take, and when when I seem to have trouble getting my PH out of the 5 range? Thank you kindly, CL
09/15/2008: Alain from Ottawa, Canada replies: Hi Tami
I am not Ted, but may I suggest a set of protocols, all related to pH balance, that can be found in a pH balance forum, you may find them interesting. I found the info very useful to me.
The general overview of the protocols http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1191139#i
More details about the alkalizing drink that synergetically combines minerals (blackstrap molasses, Epson Salt, pickling lime water and kelp powder,) with weak acids (such as Apple Cider Vinegar or Lemon Juice) http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1009886#i1
Alkalizing baths http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1028932
Alkalizing foot baths http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1028933#i
I hope these can help you.
10/06/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: I am more conservative in approach then most people think when actually using supplements. I only used supplements when I am sick or as a substitute for medicine or pharmaceutical products. However, one area stands out in relation to close optimum health or monitoring, much like a thermometer, which is the urinary pH and salivary pH in the range of 6.5-7.0. using the alkalizing remedy. The other things I used is an ocassional hair mineral analysis, being one of the most important. If I do have time, I will try to think this through later on.
05/18/2008: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: The ORP (oxidation reduction potential meter) measures the electric voltage I used in urine samples. It is measured in millivolts, either positive or negative. When the urine samples measures positive, the person is oxidizing, and has lack of electrons, so there are more free radicals which causes a person to be sick. When a person is healthy or antioxidant the figures is negative.
On a personal level, I used the ORP meter to check for my body level of vitamin C and ANTIOXIDANT, at least the water soluble one by measuring the urine. For example, as a rule of thumb, I can't get my ORP to be -50 mV to plus ORP. But a good level of antioxidant should be -100 mV to -300 mV. A good value is -120 mV to -150 mV. Usually with just the pH (if below 6.0) and ORP nearing positive values, I can predict my own sickness before the happen and often have to take supplements as a prevention before they happen. It is much earlier indicator than someone coming down with fever.
Most people will be about -80 mV, so their level of AntioxidantÂ is low anyway. So usually sodium ascorbate does the trick. But other values still have to be checked, which is the pH and the urine sugar.
Most ORP goes for about $100 and the pocket form are the cheapest but when I measure I try to measure within 1-2 minutes are usually sufficient.
deep' could potash raise alkalinity?Â Â Thank youÂ Ted , you are a
great help to us , I love this website.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Royce: Animals basically evolved from animals in the oceans. Ocean's pH basically has a pH of 8. The ranges of pH of an ocean's water is between 7.5 to 9.0. Basically the fish and other sea animals live in this kind of an alkaline environment. Land animals has it worse, land pH basically goes from 5.0 to about 7.5, where average pH is about 6.5 (if you do farming you know) which is acid. Therefore I am sure that some of the most primitive needs of the animals are still etched in its evolutionary pattern. While our drinking water of us and the animals we feed them will usually be 7, our own blood disagrees and it's pH is always 7.35, which is more alkaline in nature. If I can achieve or animals can achieve an equilibrium where the food's pH is in balance with our body, my bet is that the drinking water's ideal pH should be more closer to our own blood, where the pH is 7.35. Thus an animal need to struggle in trying to get an alkalinity higher than what it eat' nearly every time. It seems therefore of no surprise that an animal will have second thoughts on consuming anything alkaline to save or preserve it's own blood pH. This is the reason why animals will eat potash of burned wood which are quite alkaline to at least save it's own blood from acid destruction. Also, it should be noted that the environment by which an animal grows is subjected to more disease and bacterial growth than sea animals and its resulting infection. The reason why the ocean's world is so sterile is basically two major factors: Salinity (mineral salts) and Alkalinity (pH of 8). Without these these two critical factors the fishes would die of a disease, if such environment that we live is less than neutral. Therefore, alkalinity provides at the very least, along with the salts from potash (mostly burned wood) with the exact things the land animals need like a natural antibiotics. So the alkalinity and the salinity is what gives the animal its ability to withstand diseases. And if someone thinks I am assuming all these, just get a deep sea water, or a deep sea salt (the sea salt especially for the fish acquarium) and try putting a small amount with of these mixed into ordinary water, where salinity is within normal use for most plant growth to get an isotonic solutions and within 6 months the plant growth will grow better. Perhaps it's the mineral salt, but these mineral salts has an alkaline biased where there is more of the alkaline in the left side of the periodic tables than the right side, while most antibiotics and chemical we humans use are the exact opposite, located to the right of the periodic table, mostly halogens and acid. This is the exact opposite of what nature has intended. I have seen a walnut tree double the size of a normal tree by just using some sea salt mixed with ordinary water. There is a lot of mysteries that an animals know, but they don't need to be taught like we humans do. And if we are taught, it might be disinformation from a corrupt FDA official, or the fact that Aspartame Society says Aspartame is safe. No animals will touch aspartame and will avoid aspartame as best as they can. Hence what the fake research did was to put aspartame in the center, and a food without aspartame in the surrounding dish and allow the animal to choose instinctively by not eating aspartame laden food and claim that aspartame is safe to get FDA's approval. Animals have a great instinct to know what is good for them. The only way to be in touch with ourself is to eat and know that it's good or bad for us. Some people do that by muscle testing, I simply do it by just observing the things I eat..
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: A common alkaline urine pH, might be a condition of hypokalemia or even a renal tubular acidosis in which the kidneys fail to get rid of it the acid into the urine resulting in acid blood. This will result in lack of bicarbonates in the blood too.
Frequently the hospital treatment for hypokalemia is sodium bicarbonate, potassium chloride, and some antibiotics.
For me I prefer sodium bicarbonate plus potassium citrate (1/2 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of potassium citrate in 1/2 glass of water taken twice a day) and some 1/4 teaspoon sea salt added to the one liter drinking water as a weak form of antibiotics with some 10 drops of 3% H2O2.
It may be the HPV virus that is causing this problem resulting in the hypokalemia and hence 50 mg of zinc gluconate may be taken once every other day for the first week with resulting once a week zinc gluconate as a more natural form of antibiotics against the HPV virus. Furthermore to protect the kidneys some vitamin D3 or D4 10,000 i.u. once a week might be helpful or if unavailable cod liver oil one teaspoon a day for 5 days out of a week with some gradual reduction in the remedy of cod liver oil as it is high in vitamin D also.
As evidence of alkaline urine, the following links I posted below. The research posted below mentions the following:
"In both the cases, the patients had muscular hypotonia, hypokalemia, decreased blood bicarbonates, decreased blood pH, and alkaline urine. Therefore both were diagnosed as cases of distal renal tubular acidosis. In most diseases, hypokalemia is associated with metabolic alkalosis, but in renal tubular acidosis metabolic acidosis is seen."
And their remedy and recommendation which is close to my original remedy is:
"These patients need intravenous sodium bicarbonate therapy. Use of oral or intravenous potassium alone will mot ameliorate the condition."
Therefore the remedy stays the same even if the urine pH is alkaline for at least the condition of hypokalemia. It seems certain virus or bacteria is one of the cause too, besides just the baking soda and the potassium. Of course I am assuming hypokalemia because of the lack of information you posted but it could be other causes. The other causes is ammonia urine, but unlikely since this is not mentioned here.
The Internet Journal of Tropical Medicine TM ISSN: 1540-2681
Home | Current Issue | Archives | Instructions for Authors | Disclaimer | Printable Version Renal Tubular Acidosis Presenting As Severe Hypokalemia With Respiratory Paralysis: Report Of Two Cases
Indira Mishra Ispat General Hospital Rourkela India
Saroj K. Mishra Ispat General Hospital Rourkela India
Sudhansu S. Pati Ispat General Hospital Rourkela India
Devendra N. Mohapatra Ispat General Hospital Rourkela India Citation:
Indira Mishra, Saroj K. Mishra, Sudhansu S. Pati, Devendra N. Mohapatra: Renal Tubular Acidosis Presenting As Severe Hypokalemia With Respiratory Paralysis: Report Of Two Cases. The Internet Journal of Tropical Medicine. 2006. Volume 3 Number 1. Keywords: Renal tubular acidosis, respiratory distress, hypokalemia
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Abstract Introduction Case 1 Case 2 Discussion References Abstract Hypokalemia is usually asymptomatic and goes undetected. Or it may manifest as muscular weakness, fatigue, abdominal distension. Severe hypokalemia may lead to cardiac arrhythmias and even death. However, respiratory paralysis leading to hypoventilation and respiratory failure is uncommon and very rarely reported in the literature. We report two patients of hypokalemia with quadriplegia who developed respiratory paralysis and cyanosis, requiring ventilatory support. Both were diagnosed as cases of renal tubular acidosis.
Hypokalemia is a common electrolyte disturbance encountered in clinical practice. Common clinical conditions in which hypokalemia is found are diarrhea, vomiting, hopokalemic periodic palsy, overuse of diuretics, diabetic ketoacidosis etc. Clinically, hypokalemia presents with muscular weakness, fatigue , abdominal distension. Severe hypokalemia may lead to and cardiac arrhythmias and even death. However, respiratory paralysis leading to hypoventilation and respiratory failure is uncommon and very rarely reported in the literature 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 . These are associated commonly with renal tubular acidosis 1 , 2 , 3 or Sjogren syndrome 2 .
We report two such cases of hypokalemia who developed respiratory paralysis and required ventilatory support. Case 1
An eight year old girl presented with weakness of all four limbs for three days. She developed breathing difficulty and was brought to the hospital. She had no history of vomiting, diarrhea, or fever . She was not a diabetic nor any history of drug or diuretic use. There was no family history suggestive of endocrine disorders or metabolic disorders. Mile stones of development were normal. At the time of admission, she was drowsy, dehydrated, tachypnoeic with respiration rate of 40 / minute. Heart rate was 100 bpm,. BP: 110/70 mm of Hg. There were no abnormal signs in lungs and heart. Neurological examination showed decreased power in all four limbs (Grade - II/V). Limb muscles were flaccid, deep tendon jerks were diminished. She was cyanosed in spite of high flow oxygen therapy by mask as well as nasal prongs. Her sensorium started deteriorating. She was therefore put on ventilator.
Investigations: Hb 10g/dl, Serum K+ 2.1 mEq/l, Na+ 137 mEq/l, pH 7.18 bicarbonate 8.5meq/l , Chloride 129 mEq/l , PaCO2 23.6 mm of Hg, PaO2 : 74 .U waves were seen in E C G. Urine pH was 7.2, urine calcium 125mg per twenty four hours and potassium was 27 meq /l. Trans tubular potassium concentration gradient (TTKG) was 4.6. Ultrasound KUB showed bilateral nephrocalcinosis. She improved over... days and was weaned from the ventilator. She was discharged from the hospital on... days. She was admitted once more to the hospital in subsequent years, but made a prompt recovery on appropriate management with sodium bicarbonate.
Figure 1: Ultrasonography showing Nephrocalcinosis (Case-1)
A thirty eight year old woman presented with progressive weakness of limbs for four days and breathing difficulty for five-six hours . She was treated elsewhere with potassium chloride with the provisional diagnosis of hypokalemic periodic paralysis .On examination she was dyspnoeic with a respiration rate of 32/min, heart and lungs showed no abnormality.
Neurological examination revealed diminished power in both upper and lower limbs ( Gr II-III/ V), and diminished deep tendon jerks .There was hypokalemia (2.8meq/l), blood pH 7.21, HCO3 :11.7meq/l and PaCO2 27 mm of Hg. Urine pH was 7.1 and potassium 31meq /l . ECG showed U waves in V2 to V5 with T inversion . TTKG was 4.2 . Oxygen saturation was 80% . She required ventilatory support for 48 hours.
Both the patients recovered completely with Inj. sodium bicarbonate, intravenous potassium, antibiotics and ventilatory support. There was no evidence of Sjogren's disease in any of them. Discussion
Mild hypokalemia is invariably clinically insignificant and goes undetected. However, significant hypokalemia can cause weakness, and cardiac arrhythmia. They respond to treatment with potassium supplementation either orally or intravenously. However, respiratory distress amounting to cyanosis is very unusual.
Gambar et al 1 from India reported a case of 26 year old lady with hypokalaemic quadriplegia, acute respiratory failure and life-threatening cardiac arrhythmias. She was diagnosed as a case of distal renal tubular acidosis. She had persistent metabolic acidosis with severe hypokalaemia and required mechanical ventilation and potassium replacement.
Poux et al 2 from France described a 38 year woman with hypokalemic flaccid quadriplegia with sudden respiratory arrest. The woman was found to have distal renal tubular acidosis which lead to the diagnosis of primary Sjogren's syndrome. This case was compared to 8 similar cases previously described in the literature till 1992.
Haddad S et al 3 from S Arabia a 33-year-old female patient admitted to the ICU with ascending muscle weakness leading to acute hypercapneic respiratory failure following 10-day history of severe diarrhea and vomiting. Investigations revealed severe hypokalemia, mixed metabolic and respiratory acidosis, and renal impairment.
Le Corre A et al 4 from France described an unusual cause of acute respiratory distress in 2000. in a 54-year-old patient was admitted for ketoacidosis with acute respiratory distress. The main and unusual cause of being hypophosphataemia. Correction of the metabolic acidosis by insulin therapy resulted in intracellular penetration of phosphate and potassium, causing severe hypophosphataemia and hypokaliaemia responsible for Acute respiratory distress.
In our hospital, though we encounter several cases of periodic paralysis due to hypokalemia we suspected these cases to be different and probed for possibility of other etiology.
In both the cases, the patients had muscular hypotonia, hypokalemia, decreased blood bicarbonates, decreased blood pH, and alkaline urine. Therefore both were diagnosed as cases of distal renal tubular acidosis. In most diseases, hypokalemia is associated with metabolic alkalosis, but in renal tubular acidosis metabolic acidosis is seen.
Renal tubular acidosis is a disorder of renal tubules having normal anion gap (hyperchloremic ) metabolic acidosis in the presence of normal glomerular function. In distal RTA there is deficiency of H+ ion secretion in distal tubules and collecting ducts. This can manifest as gradient limited defect where urine pH is always greater than 5.5 .
The kidney does not lower the urine pH either because the collecting permits excessive back diffusion of H ion from lumen to blood or because they fail to transport H ion against a steep pH gradient.
Chronic acidosis lowers tubular reabsorption of calcium causing renal tubular hypercalciuria. The hypercalciuria, alkaline urine and low level of urine citrate cause calcium phosphate stones and nephrocalcinosis. This was observed in our first patient. The stunted growth in this case may be due to acidosis induced loss of bone minerals and inadequate production of 1,25 dihydroxycholecalciferol. In both children and in adults, since the kidney does not conserve potassium, hypokalemia occurs with the stress of an intercurrent illness. Acidosis and hypokalemia can be life threatening which was observed in both these cases.
These patients need intravenous sodium bicarbonate therapy. Use of oral or intravenous potassium alone will mot ameliorate the condition. Address for correspondence
Dr SK Mishra, MD Joint Director & Head Dept of Internal Medicine, Ispat General Hospital, Rourkela -769005, INDIA Email: firstname.lastname@example.org References
1. Gombar S, Mathew PJ, Gombar KK, D'Cruz S, Goyal G. Acute respiratory failure due to hypokalaemic muscular paralysis from renal tubular acidosis. Anaesth Intensive Care. 2005 ;33:656-8.
2. Poux JM, Peyronnet P, Le Meur Y, Favereau JP, Charmes JP, Leroux-Robert C. Hypokalemic quadriplegia and respiratory arrest revealing primary Sjogren's syndrome. Clin Nephrol 1992 ;37:189-91.
3. Haddad S, Arabi Y, Shimemeri AA. Hypokalemic paralysis mimicking Guillain-Barre syndrome and causing acute respiratory failure. Middle East J Anesthesiol. 2004;17:891-7.
4. Le Corre A, Veber B, Dureuil B.An unusual cause of acute respiratory distress Ann Fr Anesth Reanim. 2000;19: 549-51
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: When using pH meter be sure to calibrate. Generally if you are not well, higher standard of getting urinary pH to near 7, would be preferred such as 6.9 to 7.5 because it is the pH in which my experience have taught me it causes the body to heal and rest. Interestingly people with hair problems often have manganese, lithium, magnesium, zinc, iodine and sometimes copper. Although this list is no means complete. One case is quite interesting, the hair has high uranium which led to the hair loss. I sure would like to know how come more and more Americans are getting so much uranium in hair samples. I thought all those uranium were just confined to the war with Iraq in which depleted Uranium is used by U.S. soldiers.
08/01/2009: Pamm from Birmingham, Al replies: I have been having problems with my ph and electrolyte imbalance and I came across this web-site that explains in depth about ph imbalance and metabolism acidic/imbalance and it is very helpful to read. It helped me understand alot. That your urine can be acidic but your blood will be alkalined and visa versa, so read it. I was using baking soda and lemon to raise my ph and at first it helped but after second day I was feeling bad and realized the baking soda depletes minerals out of your body and because I have Addison's disease (low cortisol) it worsened my situation by depleting my potassium levels causing me to become very sick. So be careful with certain things and do your research before hand. The best way to RAISE PH is to eat healthy everyday. And cut out caffeine and sugar.
HERE IS THE LINK ON PH
article you wrote regarding alkalinity and various meters to check various stats. I am contemplating the purchase of a Kangen water machine ($4K). When I test my ph with urine strips I always tested more acidic (5.0) and had gum bleeding and soreness from time to time. Three years ago I started juicing green vegetables (kale, spinach, parsley, dandelion, garlic, cucumber, celery, etc.) and noticed my skin improve and my gum irritation improve significantly. I believe this because I am now less acidic and also consuming an excellent source of vitamins. By the way, I also take supplements. I have had challenges with absorption of proteins and minerals and started including a broad based digestive enzyme with meals. MY QUESTIONS ARE: 1) Although I am still acidic (maybe 5.5 aver. now), should I not go to the more extreme and purchase an expensive water ionizing machine? 2) Where can I purchase the body test equipment you mentioned? Thank you so very much
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear John:
1) Although I am still acidic (maybe 5.5 aver. now), should I not go to the more extreme and purchase an expensive water ionizing machine?
How well the ionizing machine works depends mostly on the amount of bicarbonates and salt is available in your local tap water. Basically the ionizing machine works by displacing mostly, the salt NaCl (in your tap) with the water molecules to form Sodium Hydroxide on the antioxidant end, and the Hydrochloric Acid on the oxidizing end, where chemical equations, basically is H2O2 + NaCl - NaOH + HCl
However, electrolytes also forms and react with trace Hydrogen to form a hydride metal compound, which is a negative form of hydrogen on one end, while the positive hydrogen reacts with another halogen on the oxidizing end. Assuming there is a presence of Magnesium, in a more simplest possible explaination (it actually reacts with magnesium carbonate and magnesium bicarbonate but this is an oversimplified version:
Mg++ + H2O - MgH2 + O
Ca++ + H2O - CaH2 + O Zn++ + H2O - ZnH2 + O
The antioxidant end will have ppb to ppm (parts per billion to parts per million) levels of hydride on the Kangen water. In healing water, or sacred water that exists throughout the world having an amazing healing properties are attributable to mostly to the hydride form of hydrogen. In fact using a small amount of hydrogen gas in areas of open wound can have an accelerate healing quite quickly too.
As is well known in hydrogen fuel cells a hydride metal of any kind, where boron hydride and magnesium hydride is quite stable in water solution, it is mostly stable whenever the body is in alkaline state. This means on the antioxidant end, the NaOH (sodium hydroxide) plus MgH2, CaH2, and ZnH2, for example are stable in water solution and allows the body to utilized them as an antioxidant products namely because of their very low ORP.
But this negative ORP can easily be challenged with just an alkaline form of vitamin C such as sodium ascorbate, where its measurement, of a consumable 7-8.5 solution of vitamin C (or ascorbic acid with plenty of added baking soda) are just as or more so than an antixoxidant drinking solution such as Kangen water.
Hence, I would buy a Kangen water, if I am rich and have a lot of money to throw around. Realistically, I will probably never buy a Kangen water since I believe other methods are just as effective and the price are simply astronomical, at least for me. So I have to consider other options just as effective.
Therefore, I would prefer to take more CITRATES to effectively get the pH to more alkaline. Citrates decomposes to bicarbonates, so I can consider the citrate to be the most effective form of alkalizing available to raise the urinary pH to 7. In fact, the effect of Kangen water to effect an alkaline urine pH is minimal if you compare side to side with a citrate. A citrate is simply a resulting reaction between a lemon or lime with a baking soda. Mostly you will get a sodium citrate, at a pH of about 8. If one half teaspoon to one teaspoon of sodium citrates were taken for example, regardless of how low the urinary pH, assuming a man of average weight and height. The urinary pH will jump from 5.5 to 7 within an hour. But a Kangen water can't do this, and it won't have the sufficient buffers needed to stabilize the body pH. You might wonder HOW am I going to compare Kangen water, if I cannot afford a Kangen water. This is because I know how to make Kangen water chemically, by either posibbly bubbling a hydrogen gas in an alkaline very diluted sodium hydroxide solution where the pH is between 8 to 10, in presence of calcium and magnesium bicarbonate. Or if I am lazy, I might add sodium borohydride (which degrades to negative hydrogen). A microhydrin product uses the similar technology, but it is poorly explained, to confuse the masses from making their own by claming "silica hydride". Actually it is more like an alkaline solution with a hydride compound dried in parts per million), totally untraceable and marketed as a Hunza water, under various names as Megahydrin, Microhydrin, etc. Technically speaking magnesium hydride, silica hydride can form in parts per billion in presence of a strong alkaline. Unfortunately many products out in the market causes the body to retain a "hydride" is very much limited because of insufficient amount of citrates was added. The MLM companies finally found that out much later and have added some citrates to it, and perhaps some bentonite compound to pull out the heavy metals from reacting directly with a negative hydrogen. Of course, this is a long story.
However, a simple way to do it, at least a poor man's way is to take 2 tablespoons of lemon juice plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda, then add the water with a hydride compound.
A hydride compound can be done quite easily or negative hydrogen rich water (as seen on ORP negative millivolts readings) adding a small pinch of sodium carbonate plus adding a small amount magnesium carbonate or even better, 1/8 teaspoon milk of magnesia (magnesium hydroxide) in a glass of water and bubbling using a CLEAN carbon rod, and bubble it, without the need to separate the electrodes. The compounds on hydrogen will form in an alkaline solution to form a hydride compounds and this can be mixed with the lemon and baking soda solution. Of course a much more easier way is just bubbling hydrogen gas in a milk of magnesia solution without the unnecessary complications for adding the sodium carbonate!
In summary, I would consider alkalizing my body first with a lemon and baking soda and take it as often as possible to raise to the uinary pH to 7. What is missing is the hydride or negative hydrogen components, which might be supplemented with just bubbling milk of magnesia in hydrogen, or just keep it simple and buy microhydrin (or megahydrin) from some MLM distributors. For me, what I actually did was buy any stable hydride compound added in an alkaline solution, and I am done -simply because Kangen water is too expensive and besides you can make a simple hydrogen water using a new shoe laces too!
Here is how to do a hydrogen water using the shoe lace: Get two glass of water and get two carbon rods. A nine volt battery connected to one carbon electrode on one end in one glass, and another carbon electrode is connected on another end in another glass. A new shoelace is used as a "salt bridge" between two glasses full of water. I will power up the water for a couple of minutes using a 9 volt battery. I might add some sea salt to help stabilize the hydrogen and cause the solution on one side to be alkaline and other side to be acidic. The key is the sodium chloride. I need not worry about unnecessary metals as I am using the carbon rod.
Whichever side is bubbling most of the gasses is seen as hydrogen gas, as hydrogen is two parts and oxygen is only one part. This way I need not remember whether it was the cathode or the anode, that was creating the hydrogen gas. In fact silver hydride might actually be possible in a colloidal silver solution if the silver was reacted in an alkaline solution just the same, and perhaps this was why certain silver colloids had such an amazing health benefits that others have not yet reported.
It is also possible to check which side is antioxidant just by measuring the ORP meter (negative readings is the negative hydrogen), or just even check using the pH. The alkaline side will be the antioxidant end. However, acid/base depends a lot on the presence of Sodium chloride (salt) to dissociate them into NaOH and HCl on the other oxidizing side.
2) Where can I purchase the body test equipment you mentioned?
Most school supply store will have a simple pH meter, ORP meter and litmus paper. I sometimes purchase these from either a chemical supplier house or a school supply store, science section when buying them. The internet will make it easier to search. I prefer a cheap electronic pocket pH meter and ORP meter, since litmus paper readings seems to lean more on the alkaline side for some reason or another, then it should be.
01/11/2010: Bryan from Combermere, Ontario, Canada replies: Im trying to think where I might find carbon rods off the shelf? A welding supply shop has these but would they be pure carbon? Motor brushes can be carbon but again, is it pure? Can anyone think of a source for carbon electrodes as mentioned here for making hydrogen water?
01/26/2010: Dragoncloud 888 from Aberdeen, United Kingdom replies: Hi Bryan I was an avid R/C fanatic in the past and found that certain nylon kites and carbon rods for aeroplane structures are now easily available in model shops.If in doubt,you can get carbon fibre matting on line and fashion your own carbon electrodes out of this, at least you will know it is pure carbon fibre. This can be put inside a nylon tube with many holes in the tube to allow the water to come in to contact with your electrodes. I hope this is of help.
02/10/2012: Linda from San Francisco, Ca, Usa replies: Bryan, You can get Carbon Rods on Ebay, just do a search on "carbon rod".
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Jenny: In practice the fact that lemon and apple cider vinegar are a good alkalizer is disinformation. You drink acid, the urine becomes acid. This is also true of vitamin C ascorbic acid. It is only that if a person has sufficient bicarbonate reserves in his body that the lemon becomes "alkaline" somehow. I haven't seen this phenomenon yet, but it does happen, if the person's body is really sick and the serum calcium levels are dangerious high. Just to set the record straight, scientists now agree that the best measure of the food's effect on whether it is acid or alkaline is how the resultant pH of the urine. The old definition over 100 years ago is to determine the acid or alkaline by burning the lemon to ashes. The resulting lemon ash is a strong alkaline solution. Unfortunately the body doesn't burn food into ashes, it processes them chemically and the resultant pH is hence different. You are free to try vitamin C ascorbic acid or apple cider vinegar alone, in most cases it causes the urine pH to become more acid. It is just as true as drinking coke, cola, and anything that tastes sour or taste sweet. There may be some exceptions to some people, but my own experience, the truth is always contrary to what we were taught. Fact is stranger than fiction.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: But I was confused abt Magnesium Citrate. I found it to be ACIDIC and have a very high ORP. Can you explain this?
It might be some additives in the sample, however, the common mixture is to take magnesium citrate, together with baking soda plus sodium ascorbate to get the desirable pH an ORP.
How come tap water is so alkaline. Does this mean, tap water is better than my filtered water. This is a BRITA filter ( activated charcoal filter).
The alkalinity of the water might be high calcium carbonates and magnesium carbonates. This means the drinking water is hard.
One more question.? Is there any way I can test the presence/concentration of FLUORIDE in water.
A home tests is difficult however, you can always have a good estimate on tap water by calling the water utilities company that supply you the water. In any event a small amount of borax will chelate the fluoride out of the drinking water and thereby reducing the toxicity.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: I would get both pH and ORP being better. In general, the pH is most important, ORP basically does go inverse but not everytime whenever the body's antioxidant level is low from long distance car travel, submarine, truck driving, and flying which leads the jet lag, where the cure is obviously you need to manipulate the ORP to a stronger negative level. Working night shifts can really destroy negative ORP since people are working in direct opposite of the body's circadium rhythms also. The ORP is serious whenever deep vein thrombosis, economy class syndrome occurs also. This is where vitamin C sodium ascorbate, apple cider vinegar and baking soda, or even the lemon and baking soda come in. Of course, the airline people aren't aware of this fact, but then neither do people who travels in ships, submarines, planes, trains or automobiles as they tend to acquire a large amount of positive charges. Ted
http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/celiac_disease.html The key issue appears to be iodine and baking soda.
However the best ones that is most helpful appears to be a formula that removes metals, neutralize the acid, and provides alkalizing mineral to the body. That formula that works best for this besides the gluten issue is apple cider vinegar + baking soda + lime juice. To mix a right quantity, therefore 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar + one whole lime + add enough baking soda until the fizz stops, then add water to 1/2 glass at least, or preferably 1 whole glass.
I know from being in Thailand they call lemons there limes....did you mean American lemon or lime? I used lime. And about HOW much baking soda??? I think i must've poured like 1 tsp??? It tastes AWFUL though...can barely get it down?!! ugh! its hard to tell when it stop fizzing though.I don't have Celiac...but found it for hemorrhoids. I just got my first one... You never said it would act like a laxative though?? Although i read your Ringer's?? solution about constipation taking salt and b.soda....i think in the edema page?? so i guess this is similar?? Can i just do ACV w/just 1/4 tsp b.soda? Will that make me alkaline? THe one above i cannot drink it?!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: A baking and iodine might be used for mouthwash. But for general remedy mentioned the lemon and baking soda or the ACV and baking soda will work better. In Thailand lemons are never sold, there is only lime and are called lemon. As a result, I had to be more specific since the lemon in U.S. are quite large.
Therefore, a whole lime or lemon as they are called here in Thailand I have narrowed the meaning to be either lemon or lime, provided that it is 8 teaspoon of the juice, preferably lime (as it has more vitamin c). Now in Thailand a whole lime has approximately 8 teaspoon of juice and the addition of baking soda is 1/2 teaspoon only. A whole teaspoon is too much and may cause diarrhea. If taken the second time it is too alkalzing for the body since sometimes it can't process that much.
A vitamin C increases the body's ability to utilize copper and helps manganese absorption. Vitamin B is used along with the remedy also. But at the time I was taking it most of the effects of disappearing gray hair came from vitamin C. I should know since some people here followed this suggestion and worked. It helps to add vitamin B complex and in Thailand, most of the water contaminants is high in copper so vitamin C were helpful. Black strap molasses works too because it is high in manganese and copper as well. Other more well known remedies for darkening the hair through vitamin Bs such as PABA (paraminobenzoic acid) is what may have helped. The reason I knew it was the vitamin C when I had gray hair (and I'm now 48 and had white and gray hair when 36) I knew that part of the problem of gray hair is due to the body's lack of nitric oxide, which vitamin C can increase. I also observed that old dogs, hardly have gray hairs, and it's their liver that can produce vitamin C. Based on a couple of those observations I began taking vitamin C 1000 mg (ascorbic + ascorbate) for 3 months. My barber first mentioned a huge amount of gray hair during my early 40s and I decided to do this experiment on myself for 3 months since this idea was in the back drawer since my early 20s about this idea. So on the third month, I came to the same barber and was surprised to noticed that I don't have any gray and white hairs left. That's how I knew vitamin C was important for the body to utilize copper, manganese absorption, reduce free radicals, that may have resulted in my white hair and a couple of people here. However, some modification of those remedy is needed to increase copper and manganese may be needed, not just the vitamin B complex.
The reason in why in your second dose that caused a loose stool is simple. Once the body has too much alkalinity the body will dump the excess of those by the intestines, resulting in a loose stool. Apparently the body (at least for some) cannot process 2 teaspoon of alkalinity. My own experience is the maximum amount of bicarbonates (non-exercisiing, non athletic) for normal people is about 1 teaspoon per day broken down into two time frames of 1/2 teaspoon twice a day. However, some more sensitive people, that would be about 1/4 teaspoon.
There is a trick on preventing diarrhea by increasing the dilutions with water if more bicarbonates are taken. So if it was in 1 liter of water (2 teaspoon), such diarrhea would not happen since the bicarbonates is fed over slowly over the course of a day. However this is not the kind of remedy I recommend but only for some whose body needs to detoxify might be more ideal.
Earth Clinic replies: Stefan, there are no doctors on this site, only readers and an independent health contributor from Bangkok (Ted), who is NOT a doctor!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Stefan: Biological terrain is an old field but is quite well accepted in Europe and there are many practitioners, but it is basically unknown in U.S. except quite possibly at www.biomedx.com, located in Chicago, Illinois, which is a firm specializing in selling equipments related to biological terrain field.
Many biochemicals become a free radicals whenever the blood or urine is not within the range near the values of blood pH. For example, a vitamin C can be a prooxidant, or an antioxidant depending on the pH.
A sodium nitrite compound produced by the brain's cells called glial cells becomes possibly unstable to form a powerful free radical peroxynitrite, or its half life gets shortened in presence of acidity, and therefore causes high blood pressure due to reduced half life of sodium nitrite compound in blood acidity.
The sheer number of biological chemicals that goes against you in presence of acidity are many it is beyond this small email I can answer.
It is best that the body's blood operates in pH of 7.35 or quite narrow area. If it is off by only 0.5 pH you just die almost instantly.
Whenever urinary pH is below 7, basically, to an extreme acidity such as 4-5 for example, basically the kidneys get digested in presence of high acid.
So even if you don't think pH is worthwile, at least it is a good measure that the kidney be protected from extreme acidity.
I used this alkalinity basically to restore normal blood pressure by extending or at least preventing degradation of the body's natural sodium nitrite (which controls pH) by the use of buffers so that the sodium nitrite once it is not degraded as quickly allow for more stable and more normal blood pressure as it increases the body's nitric oxide efficiency in use in your body.
At least, in presence of alkalinity buffer that peroxynitrite does not form is even one area of anti aging research which shows potential, at least they do found this presence to be high in cataract individuals.
Therefore, alkalinity is one of the many ways one can reduce free radical either coming from a simple vitamin C (prooxidant in acidity) or peroxynitrite, as well as others.
I was one of the few to use alkalinity to help the body's resistance against disease in early 1970s, but today, at least in the late 1980s to 1990s that many researchers have finally caught on that acidity is an important issue for normal biochemical processes and disease.
As to what pH values is best for you the simplest answer would be, what works for you the best. The range are just simple ballpark figures that you can try to see if it works for you or not.
You can refer to many present researchers such as Dr. Carey Reams, or websites such as www.biomedx.com, forum discussion groups on Biological Terrain, RBTI and many more. One of the earliest proponents of alkalizing is actually Edgar Cayce, who treated thousands of patients psychically and many of his holistic therapy approach is now quite well known.
There is even a best selling research books on treatment of diabetes, weight loss, and other topics by Dr. Robert O. Young, and other researchers in the field that supports various alkalization, such as the use of potassium bicarbonate among others, and even a handbook guide on what foods to eat to get pH alkalization. The list of references and bibliography is by the thousands and this website only deals with remedies that you are best to do further research of this work at www.pubmed.org or other similar website that deals in much greater details in the field of biochemistry than Earth Clinic can ever deal with.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Yes, vitamin C, if in sodium ascorbate form is 500 mg PLUS sodium bicarbonate 1/4 teaspoon twice a day is the minimum on an empty stomach. Take plenty of water. My dosage is alas, is often on the low side, but still quite effective, but will have a minimum of problems. This is not taken everyday, but usually the range is between 3 days to 5 days out of a week.
It MUST BE NOTED that people taking oil pulling who have "healing crisis" is often due to several issues such as the need to add peppermint oil, the need to alkalize more and the need for lecithin in the diet. If those who DO NOT HAVE such healing crisis it means his bodily functions on bicarbonate level, ability to rid of fats, and bacterial/viral toxin overload are minimal. One way to test whether this is a problem is to do oil pulling WITHOUT the sodium ascorbate and baking soda (or lemon + baking soda, or acv + baking soda).
There are exceptions such as extreme sickness, as in cancer, for example, which must be taken at least 21 days straight needed to reverse the cancer.
There is a story of the late Carey Reams who cured 10,000 people of cancer just using lemon juice only. Of course, I hate to disagree with him on that since I have the ORP (oxidation reduction potential) and lemon MUST be added to the baking soda. Of course, Dr. Carey Reams did experience a lot of people with side effects from his remedy, since he called for more stringent fasting as well as pure lemon. This can take a toll on cancer patients during the healing crisis. Mine has almost none, mine can also use apple cider vinegar and baking soda too.
Dr. Carey Reams did make several mistakes in his treatment also such as the use of calcium for alkalization, instead of baking soda, and the use of magnesium. The importance of mammalian solution or ringer's solution and other technical things that is beyond this discussion.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Cindy: It is either too much or too little of certain minerals. Ascorbic acid, phosphates, iodine, for example will help. Taking some baking soda will help buffer things out, but it is necessary that the dose for this issue be 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid. It will at least remove certain offending metals. It is the lack of stomach acids, lack of chlorides, lack of iodine, phosphates, and sulfates. It is too much of certain alkaline forming heavy metals such as rubidium, cesium, calcium, magnesium, barium, beryllium, strontium, potassium, sodium, lithium, for example.
The easiest way is to get some hair mineral analysis and find the offending metals, or get urine mineral analysis to see what the body is dumping. In certain instance heavy metal toxicity can bought about very high alkaline conditions or very high acid conditions. In which case if that is true, oral disodium EDTA, where 1/8 teaspoon is mixed in 1 liter of water should help remove whatever free radical metals that are present in some instances.
Usually eating bread and meats will often quickly raise the pH. However, I cannot answer more than this since I have no idea at all what is your dietary habits, which I cannot conclude much. It must be noted that taking certain doctors meds can also cause very high alkaline or even acid conditions too.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Michelle: Yes ascorbic acid helps increase the body's acidity as it is acid forming, while sodium ascorbate is alkaline forming. Y
ou seem to have a very unusual diet or contaminant. Basically the food is lacking in acid forming food, such as lack of chloride, iodine, bromine, sulfates, for example. While your diet may be too much of the alkaline forming food very high in sodium, magnesium, calcium and other similar metals. In some cases certain heavy metals of alkaline forming metals are involved, so it could also be a contaminant.
So the easiest thing I can imagine in your case is to eat bread, do iodine painting, and eat sulfur rich foods. Iodine and bromine for example are generally acid forming. Taking chlorides, such as salt are generally acid forming especially the common table salt. Assuming of course that the urinary pH is alkaline. But if it is too much phosphates the opposite might occur to cause alkaline mouth conditions. This is why the need to check both figures. Some minerals that may stabilize the pH includes molybdenum which may help.
But before jumping to conclusions it is best to get an electronic pH meter just to be sure and check both urinary pH and salivary pH. The pH paper is quite often off and tends to go on the alkaline. Generally for muscles and aches, eating sunflower seeds might do it and maybe just the pH paper is off. So trying a simple sunflower seeds is one easy way to test.
07/23/2009: AprilRain from cleveland, ohio,usa replies: Ted, I've been reading alot of your post for the last couple months & i appreciate your holistic approach to finding ways to be healthy naturally. Six weeks ago I broke 3 my fingers & got 2 very deep cuts on 2 of the broken fingers all the way down to my bones from a very sharp metal garage door chain. The same day i got a tetanus shot. Then about 3 weeks after I started having mild chest tightness on my right side off & on. Then eventually through out the 3 weeks the chest pain started being more often & started to be on the left side also with sudden sharp pains only on the left side. Then the last 2 weeks my neck would ache along with a headache. Now the last week my jaw started to ache along with muscle spasms in my feet & other minor muscle spasms in other places. I've been to the E.R. twice in the last week & to the top female cardiologists at cleveland clinic. All these docotor's ran all kind blood test, ekg's, xrays, echocardiogram & they all don't believe the chest pain to be a heart problem. I then started to think maybe I had tetanus since the doctor's don't think it's my heart & now that i started having muscle spasms in alot other parts of my body. The last E.R. i went to checked my blood count & said my white count was normal. They also checked my electroyltes & lactic acid & said they were fine but my blood calcium was 10.6. Also my potassium was mildly low. For the last 3 months I've changed my diet to a very alkaline diet of manily veggies & fruits & drinking mainly lots of dis- stilled water with squirts of lime or lemon juice. Also eating a little meat. I've went from 127lbs to 113 lbs within the last 3 months. I was not trying to loose weight. Every time I do a urine PH test since changing my diet my urine is almost always above 7 very alkaline. I haven't tested it in the last month. I think my body is being to alkaline because i never felt like this or had this problem before when i was drinking a acidity diet before. I also was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency 3 months ago @28 but i brought it up within 10 weeks to 51.6. Also the cardiologists said my glucose was mildly high. What can I do to help my body not to be so alkaline? Also help lower my glucose? I was doing the B.S. 1/4 tsp & 2 tbl lemon off & on for the last month or 2 but i'm not sure if i should because I read it may make me more alkaline at this point. Can you give me some advice on what I should do to improve my condition?
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear David:
1) What do you think of that new Japanese Calcium called 3A Calcium, with is a combination of Calcium hydroxide and Calcium Oxide?
A good product should have some calcium and some magnesium, but the preferred form is those that buffers your pH against extremes. This seemed to be too alkaline and does not buffer.
A better form is actually in the form of bicarbonates, such as magnesium bicarbonate, calcium bicarbonate, or potassium bicarbonate. It helps your pH to be stable enough within a narrow range instead of going between too low or too high of a pH.
If we really want to be fair, mineral compounds should closely resemble that of the body's electrolyte solution which is made up of mostly salt, bicarbonate, magnesium, calcium, and phosphate. The ideal ratio is about 1:1 for magnesium and calcium, but our diets are already too high in calcium as it is, so I never really recommend them at all, so magnesium would be something to consider.
2) What do you think of Magnesium Hydroxide vs other kinds of magnesium for helping supply magnesium, and to adjust pH, and with the least amount of stomach troubles?
Usually they cause stomach troubles because you are taking far too much. If you follow the instructions as per directions, they were designed to cause stomach troubles at that dosage to solve constipation. If I take a magnesium with the least stomach trouble, then magnesium citrate would case the least. Magnesium chloride is quite fine, if you take in small amounts, but this also applies to other form. However, I would prefer magnesium citrate, or magnesium chloride. Taken at only 100-250 mg, and taken not necessarily everyday either, but usually once or twice a week.
To adjust the pH, ideally 90% of the solution must be baking soda and 9% is potassium bicarbonate with only a pinch 1% of disodium phosphate. However in practice, this is not possible, so a simpler solution would be to just get a freshly squeezed lemon juice and add baking soda until the fizzing stops, then add water to 1/2 glass of water. The lemon has both potassium, phosphates, calcium, and vitamin C. Best of all lemon is the only formula when alkalized causes the ORP (oxidation reduction potential) to be in the antioxidation of at least less than -100 millivolts to -300 millivolt, depending on the mix. This is quite healthy as nearly all foods are of positive charge, while this formula is the only one that has a negative charge and helps the body recover.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Teri: You did the right thing, only you did it too long. The body needs a rest period. For some people they do report ups and downs using baking soda or even baking soda plus citric acid. The body needs time to adjust itself.
Therefore, try this:
Take the citric acid + baking soda for only two days and stop for two days and do it again for two days.
The other issue is you need to measure your urinary pH and stop guessing at your condition. Check an prove to yourself that your urine is either too alkaline or too acid. Just measure the urinary pH. It should be about 6.5 - 7.3. If your urinary pH is below 6, then continue to do so.
To get your blood moving try another formula which should work better as it has higher antioxidant level. Get one whole lime (lime has better antioxidants then lemon) and keep adding the baking soda until the fizz stops. Measure your urinary pH after 1 hour of consumption. If you are acid, the pH should rise after 1 hour. If it is still not normal keep taking it more.
Since the body has so much ups and downs, then just take it for only two day and stop for two days. The body needs some time to readjust itself. If two days is too much for you then try to take it one day and two days of not taking it.
Whatever you do, you need to prove yourself of both urinary pH and salivary pH, where the former is pH 6.5 - 7.3 and the latter is about pH 6.8 to 7.5. If they are both acid, you will know what to do. If they are alkaline then just take apple cider vinegar alone.
The fact the blood rarely moves means the blood platelets are glued to each other. This can be lessened by drinking plenty of water and take some magnesium supplements and especially vitamin E 400 IU. The vitamin E is anti platelet sticking and should help with blood flow. A simple aspirin is also helpful too.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear David: Most drug stores will have some potassium, but they are often mixed in Oral Rehydration packs, in the form of potassium chloride, potassium citrate, and sometimes potassium bicarbonate. Citrates and bicarbonates are quite closely related and can be used with each other. I must warn you, that when using potassium make sure it is 9 parts sodium and 1 parts potasssium. That means 9 parts sodium bicarbonates and 1 part potassium bicarbonate (or potassium citrate). You can go to a drug store and ask them the following brand: K+Care ET, K-Effervescent, K-Vescent. Large drug stores should carry them. In the even you get nauseated from accidental dosage of taking too much potassium, the cure is extremely simple: take 1/2 teaspoon - 1 teaspoon of sea salt or salt, should that happen. The nauseation will be gone in a matter of minutes.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Vince: Very true. Some people can have problems about potassium in general. Usually in a human body fluids, it works something like, 90% Sodium, 10% potassium. The best way to deal with this is to try two options:
One way is use potassium chloride instead, such as 9 parts sodium bicarbonate, and 1 part potassium chloride (or potassium citrate).
The second way is to try 9 parts sodium bicarbonate and 1 part potassium bicarbonate.
If potassium is not working out at all under this two options you might as well not use it at all. Perhaps your body has gotten accustomed to taking sodium and this does happen more than most people realized.
This is a very important point, because I have seen people actually get very sick on a Hallelujah diet. The cure I very very simple. Add sea salt to the food.
This diet in my opinion is way too high on potassium as it is, and most people in general, including livestock pigs do get used to high sodium diet.
In my personal opinion a diet should resemble closely to the Ringer's solution or mammalian solution (to keep tissue alive in a petri dish) where the sodium to potassium ratio is about 9: 1. This is entirely my opinion based on direct observations of human who tried to consume more potassium, or livestock pigs and even in human tissue culture solution.
It is also true that ancient people did take a very high potassium diet such as where potassium is as high as 10 times of sodium. This does not necessarily mean they are healthy either! Suppose I send you to go back in a time machine where potassium diets were high and you have this side effect. Then it is quite possible that salt was a very valuable commodity indeed because of that!
Therefore it DOES NOT mean, ancient people at optimum diet or does it mean we eat optimum diet. It does mean that we need to take whatever ratios that have the least issues of health and a higher sodium to potassium ratio is in practice generally safer.
The issue of sodium retention have more to do with dietary problems, adrenal issues, heavy metals suppressing glandular functions, or possibly no potassium at all, but it does not necessarily mean an excessive dietary sodium is the problem.
If I take only just 2-3 mg. of lithium supplements a day, the sodium retention will be reduced. Most of the sodium retention issue I do witness have very much to do with the EXCESSIVE use of sugar.
By reducing sugar in the diets, especially NEVER mix sugar and salt together, the issue of sodium retention should generally be a thing of the past.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear David: Happy to hear of a positive feedback.
Also, is it better to take the bicarbonates with, or between high-protein meals?
With high protein meals, I seen people needing larger than normal dose of bicarbonates with high protein meals as they are acid forming. I am not saying high protein is bad for you. High protein don't really kill you it is excess fats that clogs it. And then there is good fats and bad fats, as much as good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. Good protein without the bad fats are obviously fish.
In my opinion you need twice more dose for bicarbonates on high protein meals than low protein meal.
When you take it, how you take it helps too. If the bicarbonates is taken between meals, the food you take along with bicarbonates should be small enough that it doesn't upset your digestive system.
So try 1/4 teaspoon of bicarbonates on one liter of water being the drinks you take while you eat. How much water you take while you eat depends very much on your urinary color control that I have mentioned in some of the other postings I made regarding controlling how much water you should drink.
With this measurement, you can take as much as you like without too much bicarbonate, but just enough to harmonized the pH of the food you eat with the bicarbonates that neutralizes the acid/base shocks from the food you eat.
My concern is that meats need a bit of acid to digest, and large amounts of bicarbonates could buffer those acids.
Most buffers will not bother with your stomach, the stomach will squeeze (drain) out most of the liquids beore it begins to acid digest it and the bicarbonates are go directly to buffer in the intestines where it is needed to neutralized the acid created by the stomach.
The problem about the stomach is the body does not have enough water needed to harmonized the food so that the acid can reach everywhere with the food and bicarbonates does hurt that much. The key to proper digestion is two fold: you need to chew the food enough and you need the water to cover all surface area of the dried food. This is where water will help speed up the process of thorough digestion.
You need far more acid to digest the food of 300 grams then you do trying to neutralize a mere 1/8 teaspoon of bicarbonates, assuming you are drinking one whole liter of water!
Even with that amount at least 90% will be drained away by the stomach anyway to be kept in storage space of the 20 plus foot intestines that do need to neutralized the stomach acid whenever the stomach has finished its work.
It is not just the stomach that you need to consider, why is the intestines so large? If by the length, or volume, the intestines is seemingly more important part of your body we tend to ignore. Too much emphasis is placed on a the stomach when you need to get a balanced consideration between the alkaline intestines of 20+ feet and a stomach only a mere 6 (approx) inches, unstretched.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Don Smith: Hydrogen rich does have antioxidant power. Many people assume hydrogen is H2 which has no charge. But in practice H2 in electrolysis actually have unbound charged negative electricity. This is shown when you have an ORP meter. In fact in agriculture we manipulate ORP values by adding hydrogen or oxygen to optimized plant growth by manipulating the water properties needed to kill aerobic bacteria.
This real fact is lost. In a science high school projects students were asked to measure antioxidant power of an aromatherapy oil. The project is simple, they just added them to a food and see how it would spoil.
The spoiling occurs because the food takes up oxygen (an hence oxidation) and this can be measured too. So in hydrogen rich water, the hydrogen will react with an unbound oxygen to form a hydroxyl compound, thus reducing the amount of oxygen, or dissolve oxygen.
If a dead animal is placed in a hydrogen rich water, it will spoil much slower than a dead animal placed in normal water, due to the lack of oxygen. We are just measuring aerobic bacteria here, so therefore the less the free radical or dissolved oxygen the better the antioxidation.
A more complicated means of stopping oxidation, is to use hydrogen rich compounds in hot water heater, which we refer to hydrazine hydrate. This too is an antioxidant and will protect the hot water boiler heater against rust, and hence prevent such explosion. While hydrazine hydrate are more like a super active form of ammonia, while it is a hydrogen rich compound is also toxic, because of the ammonium components. Some antioxidants are relatively safe such as hydrogen gas dissolved in water, but people don't like to believe in this because of its simplicity and it hurts the sales of the more expensive devices. Therefore a lot of misinformation is abound, whatever you say, it is a well known fact that wound healing is greatly accelerated in presence of hydrogen gas or hydrogen rich water.
Peroxide to sterilize it. I just love the peroxide, because I feel much much better (skin) than with Bromene and Chlorine. I am really excited about the possible benefits of hot tubing with H2O2. I cannot find any info on the internet about it though. The problems manifests by having "unclean" water - greasy bubbles and scum on the surface of the water - even though the test strip indicates safe water. Can you advise as to whether we can add boosters of alklyde or Ph to correct the water balance? and will the water be safe? Can you recommend a contact for such info? Thank you - if you reply
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Johanna:
It seems that the alkalinity and PH of the water is not correct in the hot tub - we use Peroxide to sterilize it.
You need to prepare your hot tub like it was sea water, being the most ideal environment. Almost a century ago, a biologist by the name of Rene Quinton, found that our blood and seawater are about the same. The macro minerals of the oceans are quite constant and hardly a variations. As a result he prepared a seawater to inject in thousands of patients of various conditions, curing them in the process.
Basically, prepare your hot tub with added seawater to a concentration of isotonic solution. The formula calls for approximately 9 grams of sea salt per 991 ml of pure water.
The pH of seawater can be about 7.35. You can vary your pH by making more acid or more alkaline, depending on the measurements of your pool. If too alkaline prepare to make it more acid, using acid chemicals. Most pool suppliers will have this to correct the acid and alkaline. Common acids include Hydrochloric acid, or weak acid, if you wish such as citric acid. If the water is too acid, then you may need to alkalize such as baking soda, or a more stronger one Sodium Hydroxide, in very very small amounts. Again your pool suppliers could help you with this also.
Most sea salts do have a good ratios of everything anyway, so all you do is correct the pH. All the microminerals will be handled for you. There are many ways you can sterilized your water, ozone, hydrogen peroxide, ultrasounds (they heat up water and kill by the heat generated from ultrasounds), silver - copper rods, zinc - copper rods, all of them quite safe without the use of dangerous halogens.
Can you advise as to whether we can add boosters of alklyde or Ph to correct the water balance? and will the water be safe?
THe correcting of pH and buffers is mentioned in your first question. It is safe, if it falls within the acceptable range of a good seawater. Usually between pH 7 - 7.5.
Can you recommend a contact for such info?
Most swimming pool suppliers have all the raw materials to manipulate the pH. You just need maybe the sodium thiosulfate to reduce the chlorine. Get your own heavy metals test since Canada is known to have a lot of heavy metals in the drinking water, especially from food source. One best way to detect them is not from your swimming pool, it is from your own urine. If it is heavy metals are present, you need to find the source, is it from your drinking water, the hot tub, or is it from your food?
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: I have seen gout reduced when baking soda is taken twice a day at 1/4 teaspoon in 1/2 glass of water on an empty stomach. Most of the uric acid will be reduced, but it takes about a month.
Second Que:My reasoning is that purine acid cannot be excreted out of my body because it is not alkaline enough.
Yes. Get enough alkalinity and yet drink plenty of water.
Third Que: If the body is too acid u can drink 1000 litre water a day without any benefit - it will not excrete the uric acid.
The body needs to be alkaline enough and drink water enough. Both are important.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Is it alright to take the vitamins and coral calcium with the ACV?
Yes. As in nature the issue is about balance. Take magnesium to balance out with calcium. Take baking soda to balance out with your ACV.
I know it has only been a week with the ACV and my symptoms come and go but I have no intention on giving up. At times I feel better then I have in years.
You can continue, but don't forget to take baking soda and magnesium. They are necessary for the body's balance. Sometimes the body needs a rest, so you don't have to take ACV everyday. Everything is and should be taken in moderation as always.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Rita: Drink regular water or mineral water. Drinking distilled water will quickly deplete him of the needed pH buffer. So take some baking soda plus citric acid (1/4 teaspoon baking soda and 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid) Take once in morning, and once in evening. The pH should be in an acceptable range. Try to avoid coral calcium, as the older you are the more you need the magnesium. Therefore take magnesium citrate and zinc acetate supplements. Other forms of magnesium is magnesium gluconate and magnesium chloride are acceptable.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Yes. You need not be accurate for these applications. A simple pH strip will do.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Maple syrup does not exactly cleanse your body as the body have too much sugar as it is. Black strap molasses might be a better substitute for maple syrup, but still sugar is a problem still. If I were to formulate some master cleanser, briefly:
vinegar, (because it detoxifies most chemical poisons)
hydrogen peroxide (a couple of drops, same reason as above, but it does it differently)
lemon juice (most citric acid chelates heavy metals and reduce inflammation)
cayenne pepper, (increases circulation and thus removes toxins from poorly circulate areas)
peppermint oil, (common digestive aids and clears the digestive toxins)
rosemary oil, (common antioxidants and prevent food spoilage and toxin buildup in your intestines)
chinese parsley (chelates heavy metal out of your body. Most people have way too much heavy metals anyway, including me!) The above should be consider more of a master cleanse then your master cleanse. It doesn't include everything.
Also I went and bought a water alkanizer and am drinking the water at a p.h of 10.
Moderation is best, pH in the long run should be 7, but 10 is o.k. for short term detoxification purposes.
Water alkalizers (ionic water) are reduced hydrogen or hydrogen rich water. They are generally good, but long term drinking of several years could be a real problem. I have had one japanese long term user who complained to me about kidney stones. Certain stones build up in acid, certain stones build up in alkaline. The best I can say is take it in moderation.
I have no way to know how good your alkalizers is. The real secret to the healing powers of alkalizers don't come from that electrolytic separation as much as the hydrogen which is responsible for the negative ORP (oxidation reduction potentials). You can measure the quality by getting a pocket ORP meters. I have it and measure them all the time.
You can use a fish bubbler and use hydrogen gas and get the same healing effect. Nearly all healing water, sacred water, have a strongly negative ORP. They are found all over the world in many healing springs from Mexico to Germany.
Of course, you can also get the same effect, and even better then alkalizers (longer lasting) by simply adding vitamin C ascorbic acid with baking soda. The ORP readings can easily reach -200 as almost the same as most alkalizers, or ionic water, or kangen waters, or microwater, and so many names these marketers dream of. But they are nevertheless the same as Microhydrin or Megahydrin also. All of them telling slightly different stories to the same basic principles: reduce hydrogen. It has been known for ages that hydrogen gas presence speeds up healing and reduce body's excess blood sugar as well as the soapy effect reduces the body's blood pressure and fatty liver problems. The negative hydrogen also detoxifies certain chemical toxins to a safer chemical compounds inside the body.
Again, alkalizers produces an imbalance of your mineral by pulling in certain minerals on the cathode end.
To use a mineral water with a good balance mineral and bubbling with hydrogen gas to produced a reduced water, with a negative -600 plus some nice buffer would be a more reasonable move. At least you get all the mineral you need and not just certain kinds of minerals attracted to one end!
Also it is NOT the amount of negative ORP that is responsible for your health, although this helps. It is the Relative Hydrogen or rH or rH2 that matters.
The problem about this is you can detoxify your body two ways. By oxygen or by hydrogen. Not all toxins are created equal. Some can be detoxified with reduce hydrogen, some can be detoxified by ozone or hydrogen peroxide.
By hydrogen you use alkalizers, or you use a simple hydrogen bubbling system.
People with low budget like me buy a vitamin C and sodium bicarbonate to get a negative -250 millivolts ORP reading.
The most negative ORP using non toxic easy to obtain chemical means without an electronic means is magnesium hydroxide plus vitamin C which stands at negative ORP of -300 millivolts.
The advantage seen of using chemical means is that the negative ORP (which means excess electrons and thus a free radical scavenger and of course a super antioxidant) often will be much more stable and lasts in your body much longer than an electronic means. This is because hydrogen gas are volatile and don't lasts in the water long. Chemical means will cause your body's antioxidant level to be that level for about two days instead of a couple of hours using the alkalizers.
What your opinion on water alkanizers and do you think i would still need the baking soda to alkanize?
The alkalizer will not give your body the sufficient amount of bicarbonates your body needs to neutralize the pH in a narrow region of your blood at 7.35. A slight change of just plus or minus pH of 0.5 can just kill you or make you sick if the figure is much less than this.
The alkalizer does not provide a fair balance of mineral. These are some of the things marketers just conveniently forget to mention when selling their products.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Hasan: Simply ORP measures your antioxidant status, whether your are in oxidation status (lacking in surplus electrons) if your ORP is near zero or positive (which is dangeous), or in the safe zone near -100 ORP. If your urine is near zero or dangerously positive, it tells you that you need to take your antioxidants, such as vitamin C, vitamin E, selenium, etc. I have found the best ways to get ORP in a negative where you have surplus electrons (antioxidant status prevents heart disease, aging, bacteria, pathogens, chemical toxins, cancer, etc), is to take vitamin C + baking soda + magnesium citrate. These three are critical to maintaing good negative ORP.
The urine will immediately go negative. One useful, ORP is that it may be predictive of a potential health problems whenver it reaches positive value and by avoiding this you can avert a major sickness also.
I have seen one person who told me his ORP is always positive and he sees no used in such a device. He felt great. A month or so later, I heard news that he died from a heart attack.
It must be remembered that when measuring ORP that the figures must stabilized and usually, I wait usually 30 minutes to take the readings as being the standard. A more accurate figure would be one hour, but 30 minutes usually the best median figure. If you take the readings of only 5 minutes, or 15, ORP figures could fluctuate and numbers are not stable. Just make sure to take readings after 30 minutes and make sure the probe are adequately cleaned and stored in a KCl solution to protect against oxidation. Otherwise, the figures will not be accurate.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Hasan: One more thing, this is not official numbers, but I have my own gauge that I personally measure. Here how it goes, just remember this is based on my experience and the values are subjected to change (antioxidant level):
ORP levels and health (non-standard and arbitrary levels and also subjected to change)
Positive figures Dangerous!
0 to -49 Fairly Unhealthy
-50 to -99 Not so healthy
-100 to -124 Average
-125 to -149 Good
-150 to -175 Healthy
-175 up Excellent
This is a fairly, arbitrary system. Anytime it goes below -100, I always start up on taking the antioxidants, baking soda, magnesium, vitamin C, and other things. Alpha lipoic acid will also quickly get the numbers up to par within a matter of hours too. My ORP is currently -175, as of today (15 minutes of reading only, don't have enough time to wait 30 minutes). And just to think, I haven't taken care of myself for several days now. Therefore the figures you see here for the grading scales are somewhat on the optimistic side. Ted
P.S. In case you are wondering what my ORP is, mine usually averages over -200. Today's reading August 6, 2006 (almost 30 minute -actually it is 20 minutes) is -210. If 30 minutes figures usually go lower, so I guess it is closer to -220 or -230. Gives a fairly good prediction of how resistant to disease you are by measuring this antioxidant level.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Tom: To control your blood sugar brix to normal and thereby controlling pH when the sugar level is low, you can take B3, clove oil and brewer's yeast along with food. Best times to take B3 is usually in the morning or early afternoon. Your blood sugar tends to be highest much later in the day such as late afternoon or evening, so taking earlier may be helpful to prevent blood sugar variations later in the day or evening. Take only a reasonable dose. I prefer to take B3 with food, but it is not an absolute requirement to take brewers yeast and clove oil with food or empty stomach. It seems that B3 is best absorbed when taken along with food, but brewers yeast and clove oil can be taken anytime. Most westerners have problems taking clove oil directly, a milder approach is to dip toothpick into the clove oil and put the toothpick in the cup of warm water and drink from that. It won't taste hot and you will feel it uplifting.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: I take my own reading the first thing in the morning on an empty stomach. It gives the best reading as food doesn't not interfere at all during this time of hour causing variations in urinary sugar due to after meal effects, which tend to last for at least 3-4 hours. This is your real sugar, roughly speaking.
If you want to control sugar quite steady THROUGHOUT THE DAY, then you actually cheat by stabilizing your biological terrain, by measuring Brix anytime of the day, and drinking an appropriate amounts of water necessary to maintain a good stable urinary sugar. It must be remembered that you can get high urinary sugar JUST BY NOT DRINKING enough water, and when the blood has high sugar, it becomes toxic. Drinking more water will instantly reduce the sugar to any level you so desired, but ideally an optimum is best. Of course this is like putting a patches of holes in the tire, instead of buying a new tire. But as reality would have it, you need to do what is needed to get the job done.
May I make an additional tip or at least a reminder. After about weeks of my own experimentation and research that ended as of yesterday (June 19, 2006), I concluded it is possible to regenerate your beta cells in the pancreas which produces insulin, and insulin sensitivity at the same time. In fact a little known information is that doctors actually used vitamin B3 niacinamide to cure children in New Zealand with diabetes. However, my own experimentation found that there was something to this niacinamide that was missing, apparently it seems to create some sort of free radicals during the regeneration process that I just had to resolved. (It increases cellular turnover) After much trial and error with various supplements, I found that clove oil, and also brewer's yeast (high in RNA & DNA) is needed. This is not required to be taken regularly but for a rebuilding process which should take at least a week, to get pancreas to rebuild the beta cells, at least for borderline people or people who are over 30. A good safe dosage of a B3 is between 100-500 mg./day for at least a week. If you overdose something like 3 grams (my estimate) you can have a headache, drowsiness, sleepiness and its effect and molecular chemical structure is similar in effect to valium). As a result, the antidote for niacinamide overdose is ALSO clove oil. Yes, I found out the hard way!
You can discontinue if you have normal urinary sugar, or just close enough. However you need to take some clove oil (if you can stand the hot taste) or you can drop a small amount into something like a bread or something which can dilute it. I have no problem with hot taste, but some people do really have issues with this. You can also lessen this by perhaps dipping clove oil into a toothpick take it that way. It is the same with those cinnamon toothpicks I used to take while I was a student. Brewer's yeast provides the basic building blocks necessary for cellular regeneration by supplying with RNA/DNA. In fact most RNA/DNA supplements are nothing but brewer's yeast anyway. It is cheaper if it is called "brewer's yeast", but with fanciful marketing, the price at least in Thailand goes up 10 times, if it is relabeled "RNA/DNA". It is the same thing.
Will one's own BRIX reading change through out the day from eating and not from eating?
Yes. After you eat within 30 minutes, Brix will go up. If not it means when you eat, you DRANK ENOUGH WATER. It is quite common for people not TO DRINK ENOUGH WATER, when they eat food!!!! Not only does sugar sometimes go through the roof, but the salts (urinary conductivity) also goes through the roof too. There is a superstition that you should not drink water until you finish eating. This is perhaps THE WORSE WAYS I can imagine in destroying your urinary AND salinity of urine. Always drink plenty of water BEFORE, DURING, and AFTER eating. It is best ways to get your urinary sugar to be stable. I have no problem with this because this is how I was taught.
Also what is the best time of day to take a PH reading?
In the morning, this will be your true readings. You can check anytime throughout the day for pH variations. If you find any unusual variations on specific time, it is possible to take certain buffers to reduce the variations.
I'm confused with Vitamin C and citric acid. You have mentioned them in several responses, is one lemon juice and the other Vitamin C Ascorbic Acid? Lemon juice contains both ascorbic acid (vitamin C) and citric acid. I need clarity on EDTA. I have looked for disodium EDTA, but have found it to be very costly. The inexpensive one I found is calcium EDTA, will this one be a good substitute for the other?
You can take calcium EDTA because you don't have stones. But if you do, you must take disodium EDTA. In your case calcium EDTA will do. EDTA is actually cheap, but intermediaries tend to add way too much profit margins.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Jean:
Yes, I have the same problem myself, about microwater, vortex water, etc. The point in those websites is to make you buy their products, by convincing that you need it, but it is vague in theory so you cannot make them yourself, and you can only buy it from them! Therefore the last thing they will want you to know is how to make them.
I don't want to get into a long discussion and will make it brief.
Electrolytes are simply natural salts in your body that exists in equilibrium. Usually it will refer to something close to your body's plasma or extracellular fluids. They MUST be in balanced otherwise you can get sick pretty quick. Mostly, your fluids will consist of in the order of amount, which is salt(sodium chloride), sodium bicarbonate, magnesium chloride, potassium citrate, and phosphates (e.g. potassium phosphates). Your body will always need a certain amounts of bicarbonates, citrates, chloride, and phosphates. Our diets are usually high in chloride, but not enough of the bicarbonates, citrates and usually lacking in magnesium and sometimes potassium. Your body will always need these salts in balance as well as pH. Hence the common recommendation for me to recommend sodium bicarbonate + citric acid, with a slight pinch of magnesium and potassium now and then. It is done to achieve a balance on your electrolytes. Without proper electrolytes, you cannot remove wastes, and people do get heart attack without sufficient potassium, for example, such as the case of my own father.
Microwater: When water is subjected to electrical current, certain minerals will go to anode and certain minerals will go to cathode. So the idea of microwater is nothing but a device that will separate certain electrolytes (salts) and mineral on certain polarity of electricity. In other words, it is much simpler if you just add your own electrolytes without the necessity of buying expensive equipment as recommended in the above.
Energized Water: Simply when a water is subjected to a very tiny spark of electrical current (such as a 1.5 volt battery for example), academic research has shown that the molecular water clusters tend to break into small pieces making the water more easily assimilated by the cells. I can easily prove this using bean sprouts experiments. This is the one area that the websites trying to sell microwater don't want to mention it. Actually energized water is subjected to tiny electricity necessary to break water into smaller components without the necessity of separating certain electrolytes and salts on electrical polarity. So basically microwater is simply energized water and electrolyte adjusted and pH separated.
Now here is my criticism of microwater: the water you are drinking tends to be too alkaline without sufficient buffer. The electrolyte water I am recommending has both sufficient buffer and alkalinity necessary. I once had someone years ago emailed and complaining about his health problems. He lived in Japan, where microwater is popular, but unfortunately he was suffering from bouts of diarrhea and muscle weakness. Upon inquiry, his urine turns out to be too alkaline and diarrhea is due to too much alkalinity. When this occurs, your body looses a LOT of valuable electrolytes that is not only LACKING in pH, improper buffer, etc. The cure was simple: stop drinking microwater and start with baking soda + citric acid, and add some potassium and magnesium, to the mix. His condition was gone within days.
I think there was some other similar term for water?
As explained they are similar, but very different when applied to your own health.
What do we need to make these different kinds of water?
Simple just add sodium bicarbonate + citric acid 1/4 teaspoon of each taken twice a day on an empty stomach once in the morning and once again before going to sleep. A pinch of magnesium chloride (or citrate) and potassium bicarbonate (or citrate) will really help. And here is a clincher: after taking it for a month, your skin will noticeably improve by being clearer, and people will complement on your face. If you want the water to be "energized" then just get an electrical spark where you do the mixing onto a stainless steel container using a 1.5 volt battery. I am lazy, so I use a 50,000 volt zapper.
How do we know when we need them?
If you get sick often, then there is a good likelihood. If you are already sick, you will likely need it. If you are not in your best of health, you probably need it. If your urinary pH is below 6.0 (bad Western diet) or way above 7.4 (as in the case of a long term user of microwater). YOU need to take electrolyte water to get your body to optimum or equilibrium. If it is not within these parameters, you will get all kinds of sickness. Getting sick easily, the very basic of everything is imbalance of electrolytes (salt, bicarbonate, magnesium, potassium, calcium and phosphorous). I don't usually recommend calcium as most Western diets have way too much as it is, and this is why I left it out in the electrolyte solution.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Becky: You should try MSM (methyl sulfonyl methane), and licorice extract and might be better for eczema conditions. There are many causes of eczema. Perhaps applying simple vinegar to the area in question. Vinegar has certain detoxifying properties where in my home we use it almost regularly after doing gardening work and those caused eczema. Sometimes certain toxic chemicals just brought his about, so I used vinegar just the same. 100% pure alcohol, ethanol really helps, but obtaining them in certain countries can be a hassle. Boric acid solution is another that you can test on skin to see if it is helpful as it has some antifungal properties.
Don't use cream of tartar, it doesn't provide much benefit as it was found people who are sick have high bitartrate in there bodies. Only potassium citrate and potassium bicarbonate will work, and only in small amounts relative to sodium levels.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Dear Tom: Aaah yes! Brix or your urinary sugar level is indeed difficult to control! The older you get, the higher it becomes. It is not as easy as controlling your pH! Those who know the art, will keep it a secret. I have my brix normal now and then usually through sheer luck of eating so many things and trying so many things and suddenly realized some few of those did reduced my Brix to near normal! I will tell you an easy and difficult way to reduce your sugar quickly. First is the easy way, but not practical:
Do a sprint or somewhat strenuous short exercise. Body builders and athletes have trouble opposite from us common folks. They have low blood sugar because of this strenous burst of short term exercise. Exercise enough, but do not overdo that you get muscle pain. Lactic buildup is not good for you, biochemically speaking!
Now the more difficult way, but more practical, is the use of certain supplements. Take granulated lecithin one tablespoon a day, everyday. My mother managed to get her sugar under control after decades of fighting with diabetes just taking this and the other one.....
DHEA. This will help increase the body's insulin sensitivity and followed by reduced weight. For men, I would think 25 mg/day is a proper dose. For women, half of this is sufficient.
Those are the main ones that I know really worked well for me. The other ones that do help are chromium and vanadium supplements and magnesium and zinc. Vanillin or vanilla extract for some reason I can't explain besides its antioxidant capacity seems to help too, but not as consistently as DHEA or lecithin. Now while we speak of powerful supplements for insulin sensitivity, you should consider taking before going to sleep some L-glutamine or Creatine monohydrate, as they too restore the body's sugar level to normal also.
Of course these recommendation should reduce your body's sugar by 1/2 and your figure should be around 2-3.5 which is quite acceptable if the previous figure was 6.
Now some extra tips: for some reason that I will explain later, sometimes my body's sugar return to normal much quicker and stayed there almost permanently, if I do some chelation by removing heavy metals for four weeks in a row. Basically my chelation therapy is simple: 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid + 1/4 teaspoon of malic acid + 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda + 1/8 teaspoon of disodium EDTA, taken twice a day or once a day, but it is absolutely important you must take it before bedtime at least. If you are a stickler regimen for chelation then take it one more in the morning ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. Do not eat at least 1.5-2 hours after you take this. This is done to avoid diarrhea or loose stools. Now why does this work? Simple, scientist for ages can make a rat diabetic by simply injecting a chemical, streptozotocin. This chemical destroys the pancreas. Of course, free heavy metals and inflammation of pancreas can do the same thing. By removing the inflammation and heavy metals, it restores your body's pancreas to normal. Thus reversing your body's ability to produce insulin, thereby reducing your blood sugar. This is just an extra tip. Be serious about controlling your urinary sugar because the main cause of aging is due to cross linking of sugar AND proteins, which result in skin loosing its elasticity by what scientists call "Maillard Reaction".
Don't try to complain to me about this if you cannot reach the magic Brix of 1.5, I haven't find it yet, because supplements require money, which of course, I can't afford to try, not that I am unwilling to try!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: I buy a food grade or USP grade from a chemical supplier. This means I buy magnesium chloride, potassium bicarbonate, etc. from the same place. Sometimes if I can't buy locally, I just have to import them. Of course, it is not likely you can just go an buy from a chemical suppliers as it is not available locally, so sometimes magnesium chloride can be found in certain supplements alone or mixed with something. Now, potassium chloride, potassium citrate, and possibly potassium bicarbonate can be found in the electrolyte salts, and you can easily buy this in a drug store. Of course, they have a tendency to add other things too, such as salt, glucose, flavorings, etc. This will do for the moment. A good substitute for potassium bicarbonate is potassium citrate. The secret of the mixture (at least for my mixtures anyway) is to make sure potassium is only 1/10th in the amount of the baking soda. The formulas in the market tend to put too much potassium. Most of our diets can't adjust to too much potassium as this is how our body has been conditioned to and besides, the mammalian solutions that scientist used will put only a pinch of potassium and magnesium, but they will put more sodium.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Generally I am not too strict with conductivity as I am of pH because most of the problems are with getting pH to optimum. Ideally urinary conductivity should be around 15 to be ideal. A 17.50 means you don't drink enough water. However, in tropical climates, urinary conductivity tends to be very conductive, while cold weather tends to lower the conductivity as hot weather generally cause people to be somewhat dehydrated. The points where I worry the most is when conductivity is too low and this means electrolyte deficiency, or lack of mineral. Too conductive tends to be not drinking enough water. I find that if I drink a buffer solution to normalize my pH, for example, citric acid + baking soda + malic acid for example, that I tend to get dehydrated faster and need to drink more water as the buffer solution generally causes the body to sweat more and get rid of toxins from your body much quicker. So if you have more conductivity in your body, you need to drink more water than most other people necessary to balance out this issue.
02/23/2013: John from Mae Rim, Chiang Mia replies: Hi Ted, Rheams recommends that a Conductivity reading of 7C ie around millisiemens yet you say that ideally, "urinary conductivity should be around 15 milisiemens (C=21) to be ideal." comments please
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Randall: Reversing the pH is easy, just take 500 -1000 mg of vitamin C in the form of ascorbic acid. However, the saliva pH should be more than urinary pH. So there is the need to take some citric acid also. Citric acid (1/4 teaspoon, or just lemon juice) do not cause your pH to be reverse, as much as vitamin C ascorbic acid, but what it does is that it should normalize the saliva pH to be higher than urinary pH.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: If you can manage to get a dechlorinator from pet shops or aquarium shops (without the food coloring and clear labeling), or make one of your own from a chemical supply store (food grade) or if I am desperate enough I get a Hypo from a photo shops, then the dechlorinator for these are usually a 5% sodium thiosulfate in 95% water. The sodium thiosulfate are clear crystals looking like tiny cocoons about 1/8 inches long.
The idea to add the dechlorinator is to add more than enough to destroy all the chlorine, with enough left over to detoxify your body. So therefore, you can dechlorinate your water at one drop per liter. However, the therapeutic dosages for it is usually between 3 drops - 6 drops per glass of water.
In children who are really restless, have behavioral problems (agressiveness), autistics or have difficulty sleeping the dosages can be increase to 12 drops per glass, at which level, it has a tendency to cause loose stools, but not that serious as this is seen to detoxify the body, by detox harmful chemicals in your liver as well as chelating heavy metals out quite gently. You might be surprised to find that sodium thiosulfate is used to control children's behavior (as well as boron and (very tiny dosage of 1-2 mg) lithium. Few people know that this sodium thiosulfate chelates free radical heavy metals out of your body and also helps calm you, not to mention helping you sleep. Because of the chelating properties it is seen as a preventive from accumulating heavy metals such as mercury (autistics) or aluminum (Alzheimer disease), therefore one can view this as a way to help the treatment for such a condition. One issue is that you cannot mix both hydrogen peroxide and sodium thiosulfate together. Also, when you put several drops of hydrogen peroxide, the H2O2 tends to react with the chlorine and deactivate the chlorine also. So if you want to try the sodium thiosufate, you need not add the H2O2 together. For me, I alternate my use between one day taking H2O2 with Water and another day taking water with sodium thiosulfate. Some days i need to rid myself of heavy metals, another day I need to clear up my skin or pathogens using hydrogen peroxide.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: What is your opinion on using coral calcium to balance the body's pH as opposed to the methods you have mentioned?
The use of bicarbonates to control pH has been known for at least 100 years, however it is not widely known in the internet. Coral calcium is alkaline, but is not a pH buffer. If you study your biochemistry, you will know that the prime pH buffer mechanism your body use is bicarbonates.
Therefore ideally, sodium bicarbonate, potassium bicarbonates and magnesium bicarbonates are most useful. Sodium is extracellular, while potassium and magnesium are primarily intracellular.
Most fluids in your body make use of this. However, coral calcium which is primarily calcium carbonates are not bicarbonates and are difficult for the body as it needs to convert them to bicarbonate through a reaction with carbonic acids.
I myself have been using this baking soda to neutralize my constantly acid body since the late 1960s so you can say the idea is not a new one indeed and it is more effective than coral calcium from the point of view of alkalizing your body.
If you were to pursue other things besides alkaline, such as getting complete minerals, I would prefer looking at fulvic acid as opposed to coral calcium. Besides our body needs a sufficient amount of mangnesium as a prerequisite of taking calcium, should your body needs calcium.
I would I conclude that bicarbonate is the preferred from as our human ancestos has been drinking spring waters for at least several millenium as spring waters are usually rich with bicarbonates and our current drinking water is lacking in it that I feel we should supplement them separately.
It is what I always call, a "buffer deficiency" but very few have heard of it, but in human physiology this is of critical importance as it plays prominently in our biochemical processes.
Do you recommend a certain brand such as nato cal or barefood?
I don't recommend any brands. Most baking soda are good, but a pure food grade is the best one is the one without the additives.
Finally, what do you recommend for treating psoriatic conditions as well as digestive conditions such as Candidiasis and Crohn'sdisease?
Most conditions that I have seen will be alleviated when alkalizing within the weak. I have seen many instances that it does work very well. The best ways of alkalizing, surprisingly, turns out to be a modified form of alkalizing, which uses 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid at twice per day, once in morning and once before bedtime. This is a the best form of "soda loading" as they call it in sports medicine.
Just yesterday, I had to paint the floors and steps in my house using shellac and had muscular pains all over my body. Upon taking just 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid the pain went away rapidly as it neutralizes the lactic acid buildup in the muscle from undue strenous work.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Your pH will increase if you try to add 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda plus 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid. This seems to work faster on urinary pH than just baking soda. Your body appears to be very bicarbonate deficient as the reason why it appears not to be responding. If taken long enough it will rise.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: The side effects you have to worry about taking too much sodium bicarbonate is a slightly loose stool. However, it is actually taken not to cause a diarrhea, but to prevent constipation.
Let me tell you the theory of how a kidney stone is formed. Most people's kidneys stones are formed by calcium oxalate. It is as a result of your intestines LACK OF BICARBONATES, necessary to neutralized the oxalic acid you eat from foods. Therefore oxalic acid enters the blood stream and attacks calcium in your body to from calcium oxalate. Calcium oxalate is a precipitate and forms stones and will accumulate in your kidney CAUSING kidney stones. So if you take plenty of sodium bicarbonate with each an every meal, the oxalic acid will react with sodium bicarbonate to form sodium oxalate and will not be absorbed into your blood stream but will be safely excreted normally into the stool.The other issue you have to worry about of the formation of kidney stones are caused by accumulation of insoluble fats, which is rather soft stones but they can cause gallstone instead. In this case the body cannot utilized the fats properly. A remarkably simple solution I discovered is to take only 1 teaspoon of granulated powdered lecithin (only) mixed with food every day.
So taking sodium bicarbonate and lecithin will resolve a lot of health issues relating to stones, kidney stones or gallbladder stones.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: I suspect the acid reflux issue is a parasite issue. To get your pH to a more reasonable value, it is o.k. for you to take some one teaspoon of baking soda to help you balance the the pH to a more ideal value. What the ACV does is it kills the parasites, and the acid reflux becomes controllable. However, you might mess up your body's pH so you can try some baking soda added to ACV or taken separately.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Your Hanna pH meter works very well! Very few people know that distilled water absorbs carbon dioxide very well as there this kind of water does not have buffers. Most natural springs water are very high in buffers. Buffers are usually sodium bicarbonate, magnesium bicarbonate and calcium bicarbonate. In most mineral springs water they are referred to as just "buffers". As a result the water's pH remains stable. So if you leave out your distilled water long enough the water will be acidic.
So if you want to continue drinking distilled water with adequate "buffers" you may need to sprinkle some magnesium carbonate, sodium bicarbonate to stabilize the distilled water.
People who sell distilled water do not tell people this fact. Distilled water absorbs a great deal of CO2 to form what is known as carbonic acid. And their pH is around 5.5 which is by the way similar to average unhealthy urine. The reason for unhealthy urine is not the distilled water per se, but this problem exists what is known in biochemistry (back door people) as "bicarbonate deficiency".
I have no objections about people taking distilled water if they try to maintain their Urinary pH at 6.5 by alkalizing their body with sodium bicarbonate or potassium bicarbonate. The most common components used in alkalizing your body is sodium bicarbonate. However, I prefer both sodium and potassium bicarbonate whenever I had the time to mix my own drinking water.
Yes, you get mineral from the food we eat but you need to supplement yourself with fulvic/humic acid to allow your intestinal flora to absorb mineral from the food we eat on a regular basis also. However, it IS NECESSARY that you add a couple of drops of sodium thiosulfate, fulvic acid/humic acid, as well some pinch of sodium bicarbonate to stabilize your water and aid in mineral absorption. Of course, you can also add them in your food and get the same effect.
It is sad that in today's society that many practical knowledge are not taught in schools and even the internet don't even provide much information on this matter. I still don't know what is wrong, which is why I now do my own experiments
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Good question. I don't have good experience with using sulfates. There's a lot of differences in sulfates, sulfites, nitrates, peroxide, carbonates, oxide, etc. The one advantage that magnesium chloride is that it is antibacterial, antiviral and it also increases your stomach acids as well as having a therapeutic effect.
The actions of sulfates is still an unknown. I have also bad experience with many kinds of sulfates, such as zinc sulfates which causes vomiting. Sulfates did not have much medicinal properties when it comes to having a bad back, weakness, tiredness, etc.
Nitrates and nitrites are toxic, while carbonates have varying absorbability. Oxides are poorly absorbed. Chlorides are completely soluble and make it ideal for bioavailability.
Therefore, based on trial and error (and a painful one at that), magnesium chloride do in fact have medicinal properties.
Of course, you can challenge me on that. But French doctors in the beginning of the century found magnesium chloride were valuable in treating many diseases.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Read the strips as a pH only. Getting a pH at 6.1-7.0 is an acceptable range. Try changing your diets to more fresh vegetables and less soft drinks and your pH should be normal. For me fried foods are killing my pH to a very acid range and it caused me a urinary tract infection. The pain went away in minutes after alkalizing my urine with baking soda. Of course a complete cure for me is the addition of 1-2 teaspoon of sea salt/day does in fact have therapeutic value by killing off all the remaining bacteria and somewhat stabilized my pH indirectly. What this means is simple: bacteria may also caused the acidity of the urine since the wastes thrown off by the bacteria might be acidic!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Mine is a no-name pH meters. So buying a no-name is quite difficult to you. Most popular electronic pocket pH meters in general quite acceptable for our use, since the pH is accurate to the nearest 0.1 pH.
I don't generally recommend any particular brand pH meters, but if I were to mention a popular pH meter, at least in the U.S.A. this would be Hanna pH meters. There is a good reason why I don't recommend particular brand, sometimes your local area don't have that brand and another brand might be just as good.
Usually your decision to buy pH meters at least for most people is the price or affordability. Accuracy for any electronic pH meters especially pocket ones are not important since most of them in the market is quite accurate for our purposes.
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Urinary pH is between 6.1 - 7.3. Salivary pH must be higher than urinary pH, generally it is 6.8 - 7.4. Ideally urinary pH is 6.4 and salivary is ideally 7.4.
To resolve this is simple, if your pH does not fall within this range and you are sick, then you probably know which pH to believe. The pH figures are derived from averages of healthy people!
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: No. This is not good! Normally your salivary pH has to be between 6.8 - 7.3 and the urinary pH is between 6.1- 6.5. This means that your salivary pH has to be more than your urinary pH. In your case this is the opposite or "flipped over". So what it means is your body's buffer is depleted and it uses the body's protein or other sources to maintain your pH. Just take the 1/4 teaspoon citric acid + 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda for two weeks. Your pH should be restored as mentioned here within the about a week or two. Long term conditions like this can mean your body's will be weak, lack energy, brain fogged, etc.