Scabies Remedies and Holistic Cures: Q&A
Last Modified on Apr 06, 2012
05/10/2012: Latin Chica from San Jose, Ca replies: "I am in the same siutatution and feel the same as you. I don't know what to do either :("
07/04/2012: Scabiekiller from Ventura, Ca replies: "CLOVE OIL is like kryptonite to these little suckers. I mix grape seed oil and clove oil and lather it all over. Its works best if you massage it deep into the tissues. Be careful on how much you mix cause the clove oil is strong and can burn you, but it's still not as bad as the itching. I'm even adding a clove oil to laundry (with a 1/2 cup of Borax, also) to make sure the eggs and larve are dead. I make sure and disinfect my hands and arms with the clove mixture before I fold the laundry to make sure any bugs that might have been under my nails are dead. I spread DE all over the house and our belongings and have actually started ingesting it as a supplement and feel great. It detoxes you. Vacuum often and spread DE EVERYWHERE, especially your mattress and pillows. It's non-toxic and actually one of the most beneficial minerals for your health. Massage (deap massage) the clove mixture before getting in the shower and don't be scared when you see the little buggers scurry out from under your skin. They instantly die! Wash off after about 15-30 min. later and reapply as a moisturizer and bug killer often. Especially when you itch or feel those crawling sensations. Spray down shower with 50/50 bleach and water mixture after you're done showering and take your clothes IMMEDIATELY to the laundry (put them in a plastic bag as soon as you take them off). I add a little clove oil and Borax to the detergent and I add a little DE to the dryer. Wash and dry on HOT only! Keep doing this even after it seems they have been killed. The eggs can survive for awhile without a host. Hope you feel better soon! I do and it's only been 2 days since my regiment. As long as I have clove oil, I'm winning."
12/07/2012: Pat from Montreal, Quebec replies: "There are two types of mange.
For Sarcoptic Mange, use 1 part of ORGANIC neem oil with 9 parts of almond oil and put on affected areas after a bath with teatree oil. Do this, every evening or every three days, or once a week depending on the severity of the case. Be careful with the Eyes and any mucous membrans!
For all the Other type of Mange: Mix 1 spoon of Borax (never use boric acid!!!) with 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide 3% (in severe cases), or a cup of water and hydrogen peroxide for milder cases (mix 3 parts of water with 1 part of hydrogen peroxide so to have hydrogen peroxide at 1%), and apply directly on the skin with a cotton. Be careful with the Eyes and any mucous membrans!
These are the best natural options. Always work, but you need to be consistent!!! I have tried all with my little dog. These are the BEST. Just be sure to use the right method for the specific type of mange as described."
01/07/2013: Luisjane from Gent, Oost Vlaandren replies: "Use ion silver cream, or ion silver powder for info; go to the Bob Beck protocol. Garlic is a good insect killer and might be doing a good thing as well. Thank you for sending this message around dear scabie-fighters, we're fighting this disaster together much love.
And hopefully science will pick up on this and integrate this method as it is an overal good medicine. For more information, feel free and welcome, follow me on face book ~ Luis Jane"
Also I have read about the sugar thing. As a diabetic and a nurse, I think I attend to agree with needing to cut down on the sugar, when my blood sugar is higher, I seem to itch more. Also, I have read in many forums and websites that it is not necessary to treat your animals If they are symptom free. If your animal has mange/mites, they do bite humans, but it is a totally different mite than what we humans are infested with. My cats are healthy and mange/mite free. Does anyone know of a case where the mite was transferred TO an animal?"
03/23/2012: Ellietx from Dallas, Tx replies: "Crista - I went through this as well. Both my doctor and my vet said that they are not transferred from animals. I too did the permethrin cream treatment and ended up having to do a second one a week or two later. I found a number of other things helpful. You pretty much need to vacuum everything that you can in your house and if you have or know anyone with a steamer, steam the couch and anywhere with fabric that you sit regularly. Wash your sheets in hot water every few days. Also try DE (diatomaceous earth). It has a fine powdery consistency that dries out and kills them. (Just be careful not to breathe it in) I sprinkled it on my sheets, sofa and in my shoes. Best of luck to you. It took a while for the Permethrin to start working for me, but it did work. It was about 3 weeks or a month before I noticed improvement. I wish you the best."
11/02/2012: Phil from Henderson, Nv replies: "Well wife and I got these scabies almost a month now, went to Dr. 1st one said I had nothing, so I went to a Dermatologist he to said he could not see them yet they took no skin scrapes. He did prescribe Permithian and we both did the 1st one. Dr never mentioned if this was suppose to go in head as well. I just did the clove oil and coconut oil 3 to 1 mix and washed it off in 15 minutes. This mourning my wife did the Tea Tree Oil 20 drops in the water for 20 minutes while I had to go to work. I rubbed coconut oil all over just that and today I have felt sticking and movement. So what is the best I see so many things have not a clue who is telling the Truth Permitian is suppose to be bad and we have 2 more treatments. I here the Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide mix works for some. I then read Hydrogen Peroxide by itself kills everything but does it and do you put it all over including head? Kleen-Free was only one posting that said it works and also Scabbies Killer is suppose to work but I have spent money on Clove Oil, Tea Oil, Coconut Oil, also DE today purchased! So before I spend anymore how long before the movement and itching stops after you do these treatments immediatly cause so far not happened with the Clove and Coconut. The sulfur was how they did it before so why not still use by Drs if it works and what is the best method ??? Those that have had this for months and years I pray for you and your sanity because it is stressing me to my limits. Can We ever be cured do we have to pull everything from our drawers and closets and wash too!!"
08/15/2011: Dilesh from New Malden, England, Uk replies: "i have eczema and found this to be an issue also, feelings of things crawling inside. Though, Im pretty sure it has something to do with a vitamin deficientcy. When you scratch all over it may be a signal that you need to clear out your liver and then start adding some vitamons and changing your diet.
Id start with a taking a water fast to flush out your system for a few days, then your diet should be eating fruit in the morning, and no solid food until 1pm, which should only be natural and fresh, and a meal of vegetables. After a week, start getting some vitamins, like B complex, vitamin d and acidophilus.
also, if this gets pubished, first thing, take a Apple Cider Vinegar bath, and follow by putting on lots of mosturiser. Just soak in the bath for 20 mins and dry off. make sure you shower first to get rid of any cream on your body so the Apple Cider Vinegar gets right in.
to help relieve itching, try mixing nutmeg powder with water, heat it up and lather your skin, keep it on for 15 minutes and wash off... you will need to moistuiise well after this as it vcan dry your skin but, the itch wil go...
take vitamin b6, it will allow you to get a good nights sleep.
is there anything making you anxious for whatever reason?"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear L: the bugs get on me! The bugs get on you because there is a hives of them around the house. Use DEET spray please (such as OFF! and other brands) and get rid of the hives!
Therefore, to get rid of scabies, re-infestation should be dealt first. Regardless of what product you used, the biggest problem about infestation is that they have hives hidden in the house responsible for nearly all of the re-infestations. Most treatments work, in killing off demodectic mites, for example but they came back again and again non stop in greater number, until I found a way to stop the problem completely.
Let me give you an example of what happened with my dog. I experimented with the concept of re-infestation theory by observing various treatment on my dog. My dog once had a thousands (actually more) mostly ticks, but also some mites and fleas fleas that can fill a medium sized cooking pan over the course of a over month (mostly from the fat ticks). I should know since it accumulated over into that pot in diesel fuel oil, before throwing them down the sewer. After such huge numbers of mostly ticks, and some mites and fleas, the dog then acquired mange. The reason it had gone to such a severe case that my dog nearly died, was the unusual rain in Thailand this year during the three month's of almost continuous rain here.
I used permethrin based shampoo on the dog and used especially the borax and hydrogen peroxide. The efficiency in killing of the fleas and lice, I noted were most effective with the borax and hydrogen peroxide. But the numbers of fleas and lice refused to reduce in numbers. One record day, during the rainy season, I collected 500 dead mites on my dog, but still some more on my dog, and the next day the same number of dead. It is as if there is no reduction in number.
The best way to control this sort of infestation is what has worked well in the field of health officials for years: quarantine.
After over a month I refused to quarantine my dog in an attempt to find the source of the problem, which I know full well, but I just had to prove it to myself before making recommendations to other people. Despite the spraying and killing all the mites in the house, the mites refused to reduce in number. Since my dog is nearly dying, and its amazing how my dog can survive this since he is about 16 years old (yes, I am doing an experiment on longevity on my dog too) so I had to give him some supplements to prevent him from dying.
On the 1.5 months of non-stop infestation despite best efforts to spray with borax and hydrogen peroxide and permethrin based insecticide or shampoo. I decided to quarantine the dog on the theory that re-infestation occurred because there is a hive of mites, fleas and demodectic mites in my house. The dog was clearly supplying their food despite all the toxicity.
I send my dog to another house, where it has been unoccupied for years and took a bath with borax and hydrogen peroxide and some DEET spray twice daily, so that the mites and other infestations won't occur.
The next day, there is no more new mites, fleas, and some reduction in mange. I decided to investigate why that area my dog lived had so many fleas. As it turns out, the fleas, and mites were living by the hundreds in small crevices (of the cement floors), walls, and other dark places I can't see. The reason why I know this is when I spray them the insecticides in these area (permethrin based) there are hundreds of them coming out. Apparently they can live on months without blood from the dog.
The key to prevent re-infestation therefore is to first quarantine the dog to stay in a small confined area, where fleas and mites can't survive. That means, a room that has no carpet, not dark, and relatively isolated, free from the insect eggs. During this quarantine time, feel free to do a daily bath of two things: borax and peroxide. After the dog is dried naturally (no rinsing!), after several hours, I will spray my dog twice a day with DEET spray, to prevent stray mites from coming back again.
The second thing is use a powerful bug spray such as a termite spray, or a safer permethrin insecticide spray THOROUGHLY in the area where the dog used to live, which is relatively large, if the dog is free to roam. The key is a dog can roam free, provided that the area is dry and away from dirt. If you allow the dog to roam on the grass, or dirt, he will get a re-infestation for sure. It must be noted that fleas, mites and demodectic mange exists and live in hives, much like a beehive in hidden areas around the house. They can walk as fast as a cockroach or a cat walking whenever the dog is caught sleeping. The favorite area for a re-infestation in humans is the same: the bed. And that needs to be sterilized. I will use orange oil mixed with 80% ethyl alcohol to spray on the bed, humans and dogs to prevent re-infestation. The house needs to be disinfected, much like a major overhaul of killing off all the insects.
The third thing, mites, and demodectic mites MAY not be in the area in the house after spraying them. The reason is I have seen as many as 100 mites a day running like tiny speeding cockroaches (although not as fast) from the outside going into my house! Apparently these mites can detect the smell of dogs from as far as 200 meters! Therefore it is necessary to kill the area of these mites, or prevent the mites from outside from reaching the house. What I did was I need to spray regularly a tank of borax and hydrogen peroxide in the surrounding perimeter, and sometimes using permethrin.
I have never seen a worse infestation like this, but it does happen as a result of rain and who know, bioengineered insects released from laboratory that is now infested the world over. I have no way to prove any of this, but I have never seen them so prolific in producing as much as 500 mites a day, based on the numbers of DEAD mites the next day from the washing of my dog with borax and peroxide. However it can be stopped, as long as we understand the source, which is it can live in large hives in the house. It can come from OUTSIDE the house.
One final tip: a neighbor of mine uses toilet cleaner that has hydrochloric acid to kill the thousands of mite eggs by cleaning with a strong acid cleaner. I don't like that and prefer a milder borax and hydrogen peroxide, plus quarantine of the dog. I am sure that if it happens to me, many other people should have the same problem I have, and insects lately have gotten so prolific, perhaps from GMO, horizontal gene transfers and other things scientist do that gets released out into nature causing havoc. I has happened before with Killer Bees, it seems now we have killer demodectic mites, ticks, and fleas.
In case you are lost with my details, to prevent re-infestation it is most important to use quarantine, killing off mites and the use of DEET, to prevent them from coming back. The DEET spray should be used on dogs or humans at least twice a day. Killing off them is easy, the big problem I have encountered is the re-infestation"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Dear L: To reduce the scabies assuming reinfestation is prevented, than application of most permethrin based creams and borax in 1% hydrogen peroxide applied to the skin three times a day should stop it."
09/16/2013: Maria from Las Vegas, Nevada replies: "I feel like I'm being eaten alive, like the scabies mites are going to kill me. I don't have money for diametacous earth. Or for permetrhin I can't find sulfur. I can't stop cleaning and bathing and its torture, and I can't sleep unless I pass out from exhaustion. Do people die this way?"
09/22/2013: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Maria, read up on Epsom Salts, and Borax (cheap items)."
09/22/2013: Mmsg from Somewhere, Europe replies: "Maria, one more simple thing to try: try chopping up a bit of garlic daily, and swallowing it like a pill with water. It may make you less hospitable to the critters."
10/04/2013: Andrea C from Wales replies: "Hi, I posted about Scabies on a question about 'Bed Bug's' there is a link there for you to read. You won't die, you are very anxious because of your situation, hence the non stop washing and cleaning. Scabies is not a disease of dirty people, it's a very infectious mite. It can be exterminated, but you may still feel the symptom's week's after their killed off. This is normal, and so is your reaction. They will pass like wild fire amongst people, and unless every one is treated at the same time it will keep reinfecting every one. I only sent the post and link today (4/10.2013) so it may be a day or two before it's available. Please try not to stress your self so badly, and fatigue will only make your anxiety a lot worse. Try to get some rest, it's no good for you to exhaust your self in this way, and your probably at the end of your tether. It can be sorted, but you really need to rest up, I know it's easier said than done, and I am willing to bet a lot of people you have been around have it too. I had it before, and it spread for mile's over a wide area extremely quickly, but we got it off some one who gave a mattress to my friend, and we were trying to tear our skin off!! You would not believe the number of folk who have this, but don't admit to it, odd's are every one around you has it, it was in my case. And try to keep cool, getting over heated make's it worse. If my post is not up by tomorrow, I will find it and post it to you if you let me know whether or not you were able to find it. Just repost and put RE:Scabies... Andrea, then I will remember you and give you the link. Love Andrea C xxxxxxx"
12/06/2013: Om from Hope Bc Canada replies: "Scabies can easily be treated with the homeopathic remedy Psorinum 30c. I used it years ago and within thirty minutes all was over. I had no need to do all that frantic cleaning. I my have followed up once more but that was all.
But prior to that I went to a walk in clinic and the doctor gave me a remedy that is also for head lice. On reading the enclosed description I found out it will cause cancer. When I used it I saw my aura become black. So this also must happen to produce that is grown with pesticides. I call it left hand medicine when a remedy brings death in its wake instead of vitality and health. It was then that I was really done with allopathic meds. Unless I were to break a bone or had an accident, I would never use that system of medicine again. That cost me $8o as opposed to the homeopathic remedy $8.
That was many years ago but I have always a twinge in my liver even though I am living a vegan life style. All the best, Om"
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Your observation that the family got scabies from the hotel is a correct one. The news media has not mentioned this but there is really an outbreak of scabies since many hotels, motels, nursing homes, etc. do not know how to handle this problem. Which actually is quite easy to deal with. Your scabies conditions is caused by a microscopic scabies mites, which lives under the skin and also in the bed feeding off human scales as well. Its eggs matured in 21 days and lays it under the skin. So if these scabies had a chance to lay eggs under your skin, you are in trouble as scabies will either get worse or persistent. There are many types of mites, some are the bed bugs, etc. The over the counter, permethrin you use is actually an insecticide which you are probably aware of it. However there are many reports that mites are now resistant to it. This is quite often. You may read about resistance to permethrin compounds here: You can look at this link:
You can find some basic information to the following links: http://www.medicalconsumerguide.com/primary_care/skin_diseases/scabies.html
My remedy is a simple one, use pure lavender oil on affected area or you can mix with alcohol. Apply often enough for it to penetrate through the skin and remain saturated. This will kill the mites and the eggs. Another way is to try tea tree oil, using the same method. I am not sure how well it works, but I have tried it and has worked also. Lavender may work better. On clothes, you can kill them using by soaking them overnight in ammonia and detergents, before washing. The house should be sprayed of bug sprays, lightly of course, but especially on carpets, rugs, etc. For prevention of spreading, your beds, or hotels bed really have to formulate a orange oil compound and sprayed on to their beds. Orange oil contains d-limonene, which kills mites instantly. You cannot use pure orange oil and must be diluted and mix with other compounds to also kill the eggs, safe and natural. Try mixing it with alcohol, water and maybe 5%-10% d-limonene (or orange oil). My house do have mites and I sprayed it quite often. The reason is simple: mites comes from the window in form of dust mites, or something, and whenever the windows are opened mites just find home on the bed. This is especially true during the spring or summer and especially when the whether is warm and humid. If you want to prevent future eggs laying, you can try to lightly sprinkle the bed with borax dissolved in water.
There is other natural method that might work, such as neem oil, however neem oil prevents mites ability to lay eggs by altering insect hormones. As such this has limited use. I mentioned in case you don't have successes with the others recommendations. Again if you are still having problems, you might consider a diluted solutions of bergamot, lemon oils, etc. applied to skin. However, I don't recommend this as these citrus oils causes skin irritation. You can reduced this by diluting them with grapeseed oil or aloe vera oil. Aloe vera oil is good because it penetrates through your skin, and hopefully reached the mites. Don't try to attempt to find out what species of mites it belongs to (I already tried it), many are not yet discovered and it is not productive. It is best to just get rid of it. Unless of course you are an entomologist."
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "More update info on scabies: Other medication that seems to work well with scabies caused by mites or morgellon, is povidine iodine. Apply it on to saturation. Pine needle oil, lemongrass oil, oregano oil, white thyme oil are other possibilities of applying in case the previous lavender oil mentioned does not work. Although the possibilities do exist for skin irritation for lemongrass, oregano and thyme oil. There appears to be a strong insecticide properties of pine needle and lemongrass oils. Use with care to avoid skin irritation by adding some aloe vera oil if that is the case. However diluting too much will not kill the parasites."
12/19/2008: Martina from Vancouver, BC Canada replies: "I've struggled with mange my whole life. It happens whenever I wear socks on the floor and then wear those same socks to bed.
Tricks that I've found to stop the itching:
-hottest bath possible and scrub the buggers out
-peppermint foot lotion over the whole affected area
-spray bedding down with a small (trial/travel size) bottle of water containing 8 drops of tea tree oil (can also spray this on skin)
The itching should be over instantly.
Problem is, this last bout ended up with my CAT getting it and I have no idea how to get her into a bath."
07/05/2009: mrs.from ont. from toronto, ont. replies: "I've recently caught scabies from a hotel stay and have tried permethrin cream also. Finally after my 3rd use of the cream I started puttin a few drops of neem oil in my shampoo and a few drops also in my skin lotion and rub in all over. This helps the itching process and helps your skin..The neem oil doesn't smell nice but really helps. Some people use only neem products on scabies. For cleaning...I vacuum constantly, everything like computer keyboards etc.. and I went out and bought a steamer ($150.) I steam chairs, rugs and beds..even my couches. I'm on the road to recovery and have smooth soft skin from the neem oil..You can kill them easily but the difficult part is
always getting them back.."
12/21/2010: Mis-diagnosis? from Newark, De replies: "I am not sure what to do. My boyfriend has been diagnosed with Scabies. I have seen a rash that looks more like Herpes on his penis and he has no other symptoms or a rash anywhere else on his body but his thighs. When I last say him (one month ago) he had this rash and it has not gotten worse at all. Now one month later I have no symptoms of Scabies or anything else. How fast does Scabies really come on? What should I see after one month of exposure to a not so severe case of this? Should I expect something in particular??
I have begun every natural treatment on myself. Borax &citrus soap baths, orange oil, tee-tree oil, alchohol serilizin, peroxide baths, cleaned every piece of clothing etc. But if something looks like a pimple I am freaking out! AND don't want to give this to friends if it is a mite. I think he might be mis-diagnosed. He lives on a Carribean Island and while his risks of this and that are high... It sounds like he has something else. Any thoughts might help from people who know this mite. Thanks!"
02/01/2011: Jo from Rochester, New York replies: "I do not have a way of soaking my laundry over night in ammonia. Will borax in the wash cycle (with hot water and hot drying) kill them? If so, how much borax should I use? Thank you. Jo"
12/28/2012: Linda from Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico replies: "I finally got rid of scabies! I live in Mexico and it hasn't been easy to find different ingredients for cures. I have used borax, H202, diatomacious earth, tea tree oil and ACV-organic. None of these completely worked. I had been soaking cotton in H202 with borax on the pad and leaving it on for a while with tea tree oil and the DE afterwards. I'd keep thinking this was working but then there would go the little line again. Finally I scrubbed the areas, every little bump and line, with the cotton soaked with H202 until my skin was raw and the bump/line turned white. Then with the tea treee oil and DE. It has worked! I really think it was mostly the scrubbing with H202 until it opened up the skin. Good luck."