113 User Reviews

(Mn, Usa)
04/08/2018
Although we believe ourselves to be relatively healthy in our diet and lifestyle, the bare truth is that we all carry a heavy toxic load of accumulated heavy metals - from vaccines, foods and environment, toxic iron - from 'fortified' foods = iron shavings, exposure to EMF, multiple vitamin & mineral deficiencies, unhealthy microbiomes, pathogenic microbes, parasites, and have impaired detox pathways. The reactions you are experiencing are detox issues and also point to adrenal fatigue and an overall deficiency of minerals. Maybe look toward adding a minimum of 500 mg magnesium (500 mg/100# body weight), a 72 mineral trace suppl, B vitamins, 4.5 grams/4500 mg potassium, increase your intake of salt, Iodine (Lugols or Edgar Cayce's sol.), food-sourced C (NOT as ascorbic acid), Vita D3, omega fatty acids (cod liver oil has all 5 of them), ACV or other bicarbonate (baking soda is not the best source nor necessarily advised), a diet of many-colored fresh and steamed fruits & vegies, clean proteins, non-processed oils (think raw, unfiltered coconut oil), pre- and pro-biotics, biofilm busting herbals (Lumbrokinase; even Mucinex is a known buster), drink some cleansing herbal teas, take activated charcoal or tumeric w, black pepper, 1-3 caps with water at bedtime - as a binder for the toxins, (not with suppls as this will bind them too), drink plenty of filtered water. And stay with your Borax regimen. Your body needs to heal and this can be slow and problematic for 2-3 wks or longer. Sleep is our default healing state and your body, in its innate wisdom, is telling you that down time is needed. You may need to also change the timing of your Borax/Boron intake to change the timing of your exhaustion although the afternoon exhaustion really points to adrenals. The adrenal 'cocktail' I take is the juice of two oranges, 1/2 tsp Redmond or Celtic salt, 1/2 tsp cream of tartar (yes, from the spices aisle for potassium), and 1000 mg berry-sourced Vita C; you can sub coconut or Fiji water. We need to detox when we start any healing regimen and be prepared for the inconvenience and actual pain that we may go through. Deep tissue massage is very helpful. Natural medicine has long understood the role of the skin - largest body organ - in detox and the standard medical community is now realizing the role of the integument (the tissues that connects all of our cells) in health, the treatment of cancers, etc. Alternative therapies like deep or visceral tissue massage, micro-current, acupuncture, and a host of others, are aimed at moving the lymph system that mops up the toxins once mobilized from the organs, bone, gut, and integument; in turn, the toxins are secreted by the liver and kidney IF properly bound for excretion. Lyme researchers proved that the integument under our skin is vastly populated by pathogenic biofilms, a feature of treatment-resistant Lyme complex. This is opined as the cause of skin eruptions in any healing protocol. I believe that our bodies communicate clearly and we just need to listen and give ourselves what is needed for deep healing and true health. Best to you on your journey.
(Colorado, Usa)
11/19/2018
I get for years from time to time an urge to take a "healing nap" at those hours. Usually just about 1/2 hour, but recently a deep healing nap was the result of my laying down with fresh reading material.
If you research a bit, Oriental medicine has that times Small intestine active time. If we have various issues to be repaired in that area, it is best done in my experience when the body simply "knock me out of the way". We are such a go-go! Society these days. Small intestine is also an area that processes various unexpected ("put on the spot") events. Just going down mid-town New York would stress my small intestine energy when I lived there. That is when my body started to take occasional, and sometimes daily, naps to compensate for it, and create 'order' while I napped.
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I regularly drink alcohol which could have inhibited my kidney function, preventing my kidneys from flushing boron out of my system.
The amount I used daily would have been roughly 20 or 25 mg per day.
Should I have been taking two days off?
(Tn)
04/02/2018
Yes, I think you should have been taking 2 days off. And if your kidney function is compromised, perhaps using much less.
That said, if kidney function is not great, the symptoms you are experiencing could be from any number of things.
Do check out kidney remedies here at EC and see what might resonate with your situation.
~Mama to Many~
(Faithville, Us)
04/02/2018
Borax is a mineral that we need to consume on a regular schedule. There are also other minerals it is in balance with. If they get out of balance or you get low on water in your system, the body will produce histamine as a warning shot with symptoms (rash, sore throat, ect) so you can think about what is out of balance causing symptoms. Alcohol dehydrates and depletes of minerals, like magnesium for instance. I don't drink but encourage you if you do to read more on how to re balance your systems. Blessings. Charity
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Thank you, Cindy
(Franklin, Tn)
03/24/2018
I had the same problem in May 2017.
After investigating, it was a healing reaction from the borax. My rash which was located on the left leg calf area seemed to be coming from within my body whereas a poison ivy rash would sit on top of the skin. I stopped borax until my skin felt calm and then resumed it. I've had no problems since.
(Memphis, Tennessee, Usa)
03/26/2018
Thank you Ian. I also feel my rash looks a bit like poison ivy, but I have never been allergic, so far in my life. I am waiting for the rash to heal, before starting back on the borax. I do believe that I am detoxing. I didn't realize my body was so trashed. I am now intent on cleaning up my body. I want to feel and look like thirty again. It's worth a try!!
(Colorado, Usa)
11/19/2018
Cindy, I am just reading Kaufman diet website, and I have also purchased 2 books by Doug Kaufman. Now any time I hear itching my mind says "Unless it is an insect bite it is likely fungus related".
Right now I am clearing out some fungal overgrowth, using various tools, and ready to add borax, so now here researching. Thanks to all posters, it is amazing to what a community can achieve.
It sounds to me that your body started to 'get rid of something' right away. That something inside that is likely causing fibro pain. If you ask yourself "I WONDER what it could be that is coming out?" and let it sit unanswered, you may get an insight in some time. Like a memory how you were stung by jellyfish, or got some paint on your body, or lived in a place with some mold infestation. I highly recommend to look up the Kauffman diet in search and read a bit. I found lot of answers to my questions there, and also some great recipes to help get the extra fungus/candida etc out of the body.
Detox happens with the change of foods as well, bit of nausea, so I have some water with a couple of slices of ginger ready, and also activated charcoal and finely ground up psyllium husk to absorb toxins when they are coming out. I would put some clay poultice on the bumps to absorb whatever is coming out of them, and when clay dries, wash it gently off. I used to it daily for various conditions. Then smear a very thin layer of coconut oil, which has antifungal properties.
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(Usa)
03/12/2018
Sounds like herxhiemer reaction, a detox reaction. Probably you are not poisoning yourself, so don't worry. Bromide is said to cause rashes when it is detoxed. Or parasites are trying to escape the borax. Taking soothing baths or reducing the amount of borax would be the thing to do if the rash is bothersome. Or take activated charcoal or chlorella; digestive complaints (such as an overloaded elimination system from the borax clearing things out) have been known to cause skin rashes. Rashes are a fairly common detox reaction in general from what I have read. Good luck!
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I will introduce the boron again soon and will keep the dosage low for a while. Molybdenum can help to get rid of acetydehyde from the candida die off.
(Faithville, Us)
02/21/2018
I've been reading a lot on this topic this year and boron also lowers copper. People can be toxic copper and low copper at the same time. Toxic copper is improper storage and unusable but causes symptoms of overload while the body is starved of copper for utilizing in collagen and elastin and brain health, and zinc balancing. Boron lowers msm and c. Vitamin C lowers copper also.
(Mn Usa)
04/05/2018
In actuality, whole food Vitamin C or the fruits it is made from are the sole source for the protein-bound, bioavailable form of Copper - Ceroplasmin. NOT from ascorbic acid-sourced Vita C (from GMO corn, usually). Food sourced Vita C contains a molecule of Ceroplasmin and this, along with adequate intake of Magnesium (about 500 mg per 100# body weight; transdermal is needed relative to bowel tolerance), Boron (up to 30-80 mg daily or lower dose with 3-9 prunes daily), trace minerals (liquid suppl and or nutritional yeast), food source B vitamins (esp B12; bee pollen is a good source for the Bs), Vita D (cod liver oil), Potassium (about 4.5 grams daily for an adult), Silica (diatomaceous earth or Fiji water), Iodine (Edgar Cayce's formula or Rugol's Solution, Taurine (500-1000 mg daily), will begin to provide the body with the minerals needed to begin the road to healing.
Additionally, one must eliminate all citrates, Calcium and Iron supplements, and eating a Paleo-type diet with adequate zinc and all of the other trace minerals we need, will balance our bodies and result in a much more healthy and dis-ease resistant state. When we begin to balance, our bodies detox and we start ridding our body of stores of toxic iron. Go low and slow. Borax is an integral part of this regimen and much of it is inexpensive and diy.
For Herx, take the juice of 1 lemon in a cup of water and Alka Seltzer Gold with 8 oz water; this works in 1-3 hours AND back down on your dosing until your body is stronger. Blessings.
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(Georgia)
01/06/2018
Mix one rounded tsp of Borax in 1 quart of water - shake til dissolved. This is your Borax concentrate. I started out putting one tsp of the concentrate in my 22 oz. glass water bottle to drink throughout the day. After about a week (b/c I had no side effects), I increased it to 2 tsps. a day. My plan is to increase to no more than 3 tsp. per day. I was told this is the same as 3 mg of boron a day, which is the recommended dose.
(Usa)
01/10/2018
Your bladder symptoms are similar to the symptoms of oxalate kidney stones. The alkalinity of borax may be loosening the crystals. Drinking raw apple cidar vinegar in water or drinking lemon juice is often helpful for kidney stones. You may find your solution in that direction.
(Ga)
02/17/2018
Look into other nutrients, vitamins you may need. Iodine deficiency is common and one symptom of that is cold hands and feet.
(Mw Mt)
02/21/2018
Have you looked into DMSO for your scleroderma? In the book, "DMSO The Persecuted Drug" there is some good info on using it for that disease.
(Mn, Usa)
04/06/2018
Actually, when mixing ionic Boron at 1 tsp Borax to 1 liter of water, the resulting water contains approx 3 mg of Boron per tsp. The greatest health benefits will be experienced when also balancing all the other needed primary and trace minerals, Magnesium is key among them. It's fantastic that you are tolerating high doses of ionic Boron as doses for adults are recommended at 30-80 mg daily.
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I have scleroderma and also have Spincter of Oddi issues after having my gallbladder removed 6 years ago...Not sure what to do... I was on antibiotics for many years (I know bad) but I was hoping this would work out and help me feel better.. I am a low weight 95lbs and maybe need to reduce this to 1/16th of a teaspoon? I would be very grateful for any help...
(Somewhere, Europe)
12/06/2017
Yes Sschulz, reduce dosage. I only take a tiny pinch.
(New Zealand)
12/06/2017
Regarding the possible side-effects of taking Borax: I guess it can affect some folks differently but in my case it dries me out and I am not talking about "rehab" here!
I must talk to the ants and cockroaches about this, as castor sugar and borax dries them out also!! "Go figure", as you would say in the States!
My sinuses, ears and my (few remaining) lymph nodes get stuffed up and are sometimes quite painful. I promptly bring out the steam inhaler bowl, the kettle, the towel and the one drop of tea tree oil and have two, back-to-back sessions of this. Then, I do the ice pack at the back of the head trick for ten minutes or so and go to bed with a hot water bottle under my neck. This latter is a favourite of mine. Soo good.
Of course I stop the borax for a couple of days, reduce the dosage and hope that I won't suffer again (until the next time).
The definition of madness is to keep doing the same thing over and over again whilst expecting a different result!!
But I feel "in my bones" that the dreaded Arthritis is no worse than it was and some remote parts of my complicated anatomy may actually be feeling less sore as a consequence.
Long live the Borax Protocol. Just stay tuned to your body and listen to the subtle messages it is trying to convey to you !
P.S. I follow the E.C. guidelines on this one and do not overdose.
Cheers and Happy Christmas,
Michael
(Faithville, Us)
12/07/2017
Being a sort of curious person, this drying out, is it possible that borax being one of our minerals is off balancing another mineral. I know salt thins mucus secretions and too much potassium depletes salt and the list of these causes and effect is long but I think I read one on walter lasts website.... keep me updated as to the source of this mystery. I do pinch of borax in 2 gal hourlong footsoaks three days a week this month along with about thirty supplemental things to keep upright and moving forward. Blessings, Charity
(Faithville, Us)
03/12/2018
I try things in my feet first. I used Dhea as a foot cream and now I take it internal as a capsule.5 mg every other day. I had horrible foot pain for years from the ankle down and used activated charcoal with a couple drops of castor oil on large bandaids and in one night the pain stopped and never returned. I was trying the borax because I got a sliver in my foot while cutting blackberry vines back. It was a crazy experience . Eye opening and painful as my gut started to hurt, and my forehead swelled up, for three days from just a pinch of borax. My stomach has been a life issue of drama, and many panic attacks, so I have a fear of trying things I was allergic to everything for many years but not anymore. Watercure by Dr. Batmanghelidj gave me lots of insights.
So on monday I foot soak and tuesday I wake up with sticky blobs in my mouth, like it's killing my candida, then I use activated charcoal during the morning in my mouth to clean it up. I never had that until the foot soaking. On wednesday I footsoak and on thursday I wake up with sticky blobs in my mouth. Kill those candida, hope to find myself well this year.
(Faithville, Us)
03/13/2018
I was born sick and battled stuff my entire life in my gut, skin, and many other issues, so I try stuff from my feet first to keep stomach from going nuts. My stomach can set off some horrific panic attacks. Don't underestimate the power of the skin. I know a lot of people on here talk about being sick after a massage and I think it might be the oils they use during the massage might be too much. A bandage with activated charcoal on a couple drops of castor oil on my feet for one night healed my feet of years of pain I had .... Gone.
If my hip hurts I put the bandage on the hip overnight and my hip is pain free.
(Mn, Usa)
04/05/2018
You may have leaky gut (protein spilling into the blood rather than being absorbed) and need to address your GI terrain issues while trying a lower dose and looking into your entire diet and lifestyle choices; pre- and pro-biotics are key. Healing can be a long and sometimes painful journey, but well worth the invested time and self-care.
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(Baltimore)
11/07/2017
(Charlotte, Nc)
11/08/2017
(Baltimore)
11/08/2017
If you are still having stomach pain charcoal would probably help.
If you are taking borax to detox, charcoal may be good to use too, except charcoal is kind of a pain to use because you have to take it away from other supplements and meds.
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(Earth)
11/29/2017
It's possible the pain in the neck and hump on your lower neck / upper back are due to a hormonal imbalance. Specifically too much cortisone (a stress hormone, which makes sense, as daily life is stressful, and pregnancy understandably adds to this).
Should you be noticing this hump coming back, if you can at all possibly afford to, see a doc (and I'm not a fan of having to see doctors, but sometimes...) and have your cortisone levels checked. Though we need some cortisone to live, it being too high (called Cushing's Syndrome) causes a mess of problems (including bone loss) that can get worse if not put in check.
(Mn, Usa)
04/05/2018
That hump is a classic sign of Candida overgrowth! Borax will work for this, but you may need to add some additional supports for deep healing and detox.
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(Faithville, Usa)
10/26/2017
chanca piedra for any stone issues causing pain, milk thistle, or a liver detox supplement, Kefir 1 TBSP or some gut enzymes from a good yogurt. molybdenum, magnesium, selenium
At night use some activated charcoal 3 caps or tabs and 16 ounces of water and put some castor oil on your gut and a shirt you don't care about and go to bed.
some other things that might help is 1/4 to 1/2 tsp baking soda dissolved in water 12 oz, make sure it's mixed well before drinking it. 1 tsp. Apple cider vinegar with some honey in water ...
read more on earth clinic boron borax section
That's what I do.
(Tn)
10/26/2017
I usually take a couple capsules of activated charcoal when I think I am having side effects from something (especially digestive side effects), with plenty of water.
Also, 1 cup epsom salt in a warm bath for 20 minutes, especially to calm the heart racing down.
Hope you feel better soon!
(Uk)
11/03/2017

(Usa)
11/04/2017
It's die off from parasites or candida I'm sure. Take activated charcoal and keep using the following day. That's what I would do.
(Michigan)
11/15/2017
You can always start with a lower dose and increase as tolerance allows! You can also start off limiting how many days a week you take it. Maybe once a week, then twice a week with many day in between then three days a week building up to something like every other day etc.... If you just woke up one day and decided to go run 10 miles or drink 4 gallons of water while exercise and water are both considered good moderation and building up is key. Just because something is good for you does not mean your body will like it right away or even handle it well! As I understand it an apple should have 20mg of Boron in it but today only has 1mg of boron in it. I have seen the apple bit listed as micro-grams and milligrams so do not know which one is accurate. So almost everyone is deficient in it. Since your body has been working with out it adding it in suddenly out of the blue could surely throw a monkey wrench into the works. When it comes to nutrition and supplements even prescription medicine it is not an all or nothing situation often you start low and have to work the dose up! So do not worry so much about the dose not being high enough or freq. enough. Even if your dose is not optimal it is better than not taking any at all. Compliance is always best if you have no negative side effects! Think long term!
(Ny)
11/18/2017
I never knew Borax killed parasites. Does anyone have more information about this?
(Alabama)
11/20/2017
Borax is a 'surfactant', meaning that it works on the surface--think of a water drop on a freshly waxed car beading up. The wax prevents the water from spreading out and so the water's surface tension keeps it stuck together in a large drop. Soap reduces the surface tension and the water sheets over the car. In my opinion, if a parasite has a surface that repels attempts to penetrate it, then the borax acts to reduce that and, voila, the bug's defense is breached. Just my theory.
(Faithville, Us)
12/20/2017
I am still doing foot soaks 3 x a week but my pinch has increased of borax soap and every time, my body starts screaming out in pain where I have issues in my health, lousy sleep and then I get stronger after that subsides and feel healthier and more youthful. I guess NO Pain....NO gain....also read that msm lowers boron levels so if you overdid it you might use some msm with vits c and molybdenum because msm lowers them too. wonder what else I don't know that is causing me pains.
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(Switzerland)
06/14/2018

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(Tuscumbia, Alabama)
08/28/2017
Like any detox it's most likely die off, when all those toxins start getting stirred up they resist leaving the happy little home they've made. The symptoms shouldn't last more than the flu would.
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I discovered boron/borax just over a year ago, January, 2016. I got sick the first week, it was my typical congestion sickness, and it cleared up in a week; I assumed it was a candida die off. I took 3-5 x 3 mg boron pills. Boron gave me increased mental clarity right away, the same day. But my suicidal thoughts increased, and they went away the day I took iodine. I started the 50 mg iodine/day high iodine/selenium protocol the following month, on Feb 7th 2016. Iodine did not give me any candida symptoms, which I attributed to starting boron a month earlier. I could also tell boron was helping my joints. After a few months, I wondered if boron was giving me a bit of depression. I stopped taking it, and the depression lifted.
By the fall of 2016, I increased my iodine to 150mg/day. Being convinced that boron was helpful, I tried it again, thinking the increased iodine would help prevent any depression. This week, I have taken 1 whole teaspoon of borax per day in my morning coffee, having increased it from about 1/4 teaspoon a few weeks ago. I do not notice any depression. No rashes. No kidney pain. No hair falling out. No side effects this time. I suspect that it is the candida die off, and/or the fluoride detox, which may take longer, that cause people's bad symptoms from taking boron.
I advocate iodine and boron; both have helped my health. I lift weights, I stretch, I eat green smoothies, protein, eggs, and lots of fruit. I'm healthy for the most part, but I'm seeking optimal health outside of the medical system, and I aim to keep myself super healthy so as to be able to avoid any harm the medical establishment offers. I also take Vitamins B complex, C, D, E, B12, magnesium, zinc, copper, and selenium, and other assorted herbs from time to time.
To Jason.
Very interesting post. I have a serious systemic candida infection from antibiotics 12 years ago. I have started less then the 1/8 borax in liter of water and do fell like candida symptoms increased.
I am pretty sore when I wake each morning. Not sure if its the kidneys. My kidney lab (BUN) is one number under high.
I like Iodine but noticed increase hair loss everytime I use even at 12mg daily.
Any suggestion from anyone is greatly appreciated!
Becky
(Ga)
01/02/2018
Do you take the complement vitamins, minerals, baking soda, and salt loading? I had hair loss, too, initially. I have a head full, now. I have been using iodine for 6 months. I use Borax, but not always orally. I add it to my bath water, too.
(Ohio)
09/28/2018
When u say u add 1t in ur coffee, do U mean straight borax or 1 t of borax solution diluted in water? Thx
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My goal is to be smart by age 85 and if you birds think I's a smart ass now ........ just u wait for 5 more years. I will be voted out of EC by acclamation.
ATS =======ORH=========
(Ten Mile, Tn)
04/23/2017
HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,
After a few weeks of no borax, I have now concluded that my edema has no correlation with that. I just wish it was because I now think my problem is far worse than I originally thought. It is probably my liver. Of course, at age 80, you have lots of problems. Some of you have followed me over the years as I have grown. My edema tells me that I have a bad problem. We will again start our EDTA Chelation tomorrow. Cleaning out your blood vessels can not hurt. The next day I go down to Ringo, Ga to a new doctor that does ozone. I want him to address my right knee and we will then discuss my lower back.
Have had a pissin contest over the years about getting a homeopathic solution for poison ivy . I am going to develop a solution that will make you immune to poison ivy. I plan to produce a weak solution of poison ivy so any one can be immune to poison ivy. Yep, I will be the guinea pig. We shall see. If I do this, then I want all on EC to take on a challenge that they choose and make it work. Can you imagine what thousands of folks can do it they just set their mind to it? I can...... can you?
I'm a dreamer....... are you? ======ORH=====
(Usa)
04/24/2017
Dear ORH,
With all due respect, we have butt heads but I cannot resist sharing what I learned. Over forty years ago I learned too many carbohydrates caused me fluid retention. Still holds true today.
Now, with unavoidable GMO's infiltrating our entire food supply we need to eat differently than we have grown accustom to. I have learned what used to have "no carb content" can no longer be claimed. Who has the money for testing to prove one way or the other? My body retaining fluid, arthritis fare-ups or indigestion is my barometer.
Considering your age, edema, arthritis and diabetes, I would caution you trying to find something to make us immune to poison ivy. Long term studies would be required to test validity.
I care.
Love, KT
(Ten Mile, Tn)
04/24/2017
KT, love you like a sister, but I have to have a process problem to solve least I end up in the top of a tall, tall pine tree. Went to EDTA chelation today and with all my problems I have not had a treatment in 3 years. You are supposed to have a treatment every month to maintain what you have already accomplished. We then went by our little farm to see what damage the flood had wrought. Well it took out a new raised bed, the fence on the South end and the water is still too high to tell the damage on the north end. Our green house plants are ready to be set in the ground, but the garden is standing in water. They will soon be root bound in their small cells.
I am in my glory as I have one heck of a problem and will have to think and work my way through it. I could cuss and throw my hat but that won't help a thing. My industry career was straightening out mills that were in the ditch. Once I got them running smoothly, life was boring and I then looked for another challenge. Right not with my health problems and our farm, life is about as interesting as I can stand. Oh yeah, slept with my legs elevated last night and my edema was slightly improved.
Thank you for your concern. ===ORH===
PS, here is a graph the Sewee Creek level at our farm. The Corp of Engineers tower is located on our property.
http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=seet1&wfo=mrx
(Usa)
04/25/2017
Dear ORH,
Vitamins B-6 and C are reported to reduced fluid retention. You might want to look for the B-Complex 100 as you get all the B's because I read where taking only one can cause deficiencies in the others. They are water soluble so you can't OD on them.
Love,
KT
(Washington)
07/15/2017
There is an antidote to poison ivy. Jewelweed is the antidote and there is a company that sells a spray, salve, and a soap, I think.
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(Usa)
04/11/2017
Try reading the Boron Conspiracy article ( http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm ). It references the magnesium/calcium relationship as it relates to boron. I wonder if your boron regiment is causing calcium redistribution.
(Tampa)
08/02/2017
I've been using borax for about 3 weeks, at first I experienced some headaches and depression, but now an old broken toe (broke it 15 years ago) suddenly started to hurt, not the like the occasional ache associated with the weather. Now it hurts like I just broke it! I really think it re-broke all by itself, there's been no event to explain it. Calcium redistribution? Anyone else experience anything similar?
Yes, kinda. As I have been dealing with Bone disease for several yrs, my experience with Borax has been rather effective in killing a chronic mycoplasma infection but not much improvement for Bones as far as I could tell. So a few months ago I assumed I was not getting enough boron from the Borax and started supplementing 4mg with very good results.
Recently in my up & down cycles of bone disease, I too get an acute or temporary episode of bone pain which is later sensed as marked improvement in the condition. This happened last night as well as July 3rd and both times I was noticeably better the fallowing day, which leaves me to conclude there is a point of pain into as well as out of disease, like a gateway; kinda like the emotional hurts-so-good phenomina.
Take Turmeric to reduce inflammation. Other minerals needed for bones are Calcium/Magnesium, Manganese, and Strontium. Vit D & K are need also.