Borax
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How Borax Can Help Alleviate Arthritis Symptoms Naturally

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Posted by Jojo (United Kingdom) on 06/17/2022
★★★★★

I have been taking Borax now for several years after reading an Australian doctor's trial result. It has certainly reduced my arthritis symptoms in my hands and if I miss a dose for a few days, the pain quickly returns.

I was unable to knit for many years, now it is easy again. I would recommend it.


Replied by Anna
(Victoria)
06/14/2023

I really want to try Borax. I have a container of Bare Essentials from the local supermarket. I've looked up the MSDS online for both Bare Essentials brand and borax in general and all the responses are the same. Do not invest, harmful to inhale and the foetal abnormalities warning too. Just wondering where to see the results you're referring to please.

Arthritis
Posted by Renee (Boston) on 05/14/2022 41 posts
★★★★☆

I was concerned about using a full 1/8th of Borax so used a pinch in my coffee once a day for about 3 days now. I had some reduction in finger and elbow swelling but the bottom of my feet are still swollen. I was thinking of upping the dose until I noticed the solution I prepared in a glass bottle with Borax and water to apply topically has now crystalized! I had it practically dissolved and woke up this morning to find crystalized Borax in the bottom of the bottle. Is it crystalizing in our bodies when we take it internally???!!!!

Replied by Maria
(Tucson, AZ)
05/26/2022

Osteoarthritis has taken over my mature body (am over 29 😂) & nothing seems to work to help me. I'd like to try Borax but am afraid since it's a household cleaner & it says we must use gloves to handle it. So, how can I trust it inside of my body by drinking it in my coffee?? Sounds scary to me! I've tried everything I knew & learned, but am at the end.

Art
(California)
05/28/2022
2125 posts

Maria,

I understand you feeling fearful about taking borax. I felt the same before I started. I bought the box and it sat on my shelf for 3 months before I finally decided to try it at the dose recommended by Ted. The arthritic pain won out and I took it. I don't know how it will be for other people with arthritis, but it was life changing for me, as in I was able to function normally with no pain again. If read about it on EC and around the internet, you will see that many people with arthritis have greatly benefited from borax.

Art

Pay It Forward
(PNW)
05/30/2022
41 posts

"For Women: 1/8 teaspoon of borax dissolved in 1 Liter of water, sipped throughout the day. This is taken 5 days on and 2 days off."... "To maximize the benefit of borax for your arthritis, do drink plenty of water with it."... "To avoid the risk of side effects, start with less at first to make sure the remedy suits you."

Maria, This is a relatively conservative dose. One liter is over 4 cups of water. This is a dilution of 3X more than of a single cup/glass, which is significant. And coffee is not the same as water, especially to the body. Therefore, I don't suggest starting with a pinch in a cup of coffee as it's much more concentrated. Simply remember, the above recommendation by Ted is to take lots of water while taking this. Slow & steady wins the race :)

ElaineF
(New Brighton, MN)
12/16/2022

Maria,

I would only use the 20 Mule Team borax. It is basically boron, which is a supplement you can easily purchase. So many have had success with it and that's good enough for me!

Judy
(York, PA)
01/16/2023

Check the toxicity level chart of elements and compounds. You will see that the toxicity level of borax is identical to table salt.


Arthritis
Posted by Deirdre (CT) on 03/28/2022
★★★★★

Thought I would share my new borax method with the EC community as it's working so phenomenally well, and fast, I am quite stunned actually. I have been applying to my lower spine where I was having severe tailbone and sciatica the past few months as well as on my hand and knees. No more pain, no stiffness. I actually forgot I had a bad back yesterday! I am only on day 4 of this and started seeing results after the 2nd day. This works much faster than the internal borax method, in my opinion. Plus absolutely no side effects.

Materials:

  • Bottle (I use a 4 oz amber bottle)
  • Borax
  • DMSO (buy on Amazon - 99.99% purity)

Recipe:

  • Fill the bottle with 4 oz hot distilled water.
  • Add 1 teaspoon of borax (20 Mule Team is what I use)
  • Shake vigorously until the borax is dissolved. Make sure to shake vigorously every day before use.

Application Method

  • Shake, and then pour some of your borax solution into the palm of your hand and then apply to any problem areas you want to treat. Make sure to apply to clean skin before you do this because DMSO is a solvent. Right after a shower is a good time.
  • Massage into the skin until most of it has been absorbed.
  • Add a few drops of DMSO to the palm of your hand, rub your hands together, and then apply the DMSO on top of the borax. Massage into the area and then allow the area to dry before you put on any clothes.

Results:

No pain in the hands.. increased flexibility in the joints.. no clicking when I open and close my fingers. (Note: my hands are achy from years of karate as an adult and intense gymnastics as a child.)

Back pain - gone.

Conclusion:

  • One need apply the borax and DMSO solution only once a day to see results. Perhaps twice is better but one time works for me.
  • The targeted application seems to work much faster than drinking an entire liter of borax 5 days a week.
  • I tried Art's borax arthritis topical cream method last year but had a hard time dissolving the borax, so this distilled water method works perfectly for me. Thanks for the original suggestion, Art!

Try this, please. Would love to hear results from other people.

Replied by Claudi0
(Spring Hill, Florida)
04/10/2022
★★★★★

Have you tried adding the 2 drops DMSO to your 4 oz. of dist. water and 1 t. of borax solution? This would eliminate the extra streps and handling pure DMSO. I think I would try this myself.

Kiara
(Vancouver)
11/10/2022

Hi Claudio,

Did you try it? How is it working? Thanks!

Replied by Renee
(Boston)
05/23/2022
41 posts
★★★★★

I just want you to know that this is a miracle worker! I followed your recipe for my sore spots and I'm not sure if that or internal Borax worked but it's helping. But besides that, I used the mixture on a giant hive and also a bee sting and it worked immediately. Miraculous!

Art
(California)
05/23/2022
2125 posts

Renee,

The oral borax is a very simple, very easy and very inexpensive way. It is an easy therapy to maintain and follow and it comes with other health benefits instead of potential negative side effects.

Not everyone can tolerate borax, so the idea that you are tolerating it and getting benefit is very fortunate for you! Enjoy it and enjoy keeping it simple!

Art

Renee
(Boston)
05/25/2022
41 posts

I took 3 days off from internal Borax like you said and by day 4, today, I had a little more inflammation even though I took Borax today, hoping tomorrow is better.

Art
(California)
05/26/2022
2125 posts

Renee,

A friend of mine who had good effects using borax for arthritis used it everyday for the first two weeks and had good benefit. After the first two weeks he went down to 4 days a week and the benefit remained steady and improving. At completion of two weeks, he had noticeable improvement. I assume his intent was to use the first two weeks as a loading dose before going down to 4 days on + 3 days off.

The fact that you noticed a loss of improvement upon stopping borax, lets you know that "it" is helping you. I think it wouldn't hurt to make note of every single arthritic symptom you have experienced since getting arthritis and then review that list at one months use of borax as a basis for comparison.

Renee, it is worth noting when going back through Ted's posts on using borax for arthritis, I see that he changed his dosing schedule over time. In his posts he suggested using the dose 2 to 4 times per week. In one post on borax and arthritis, his recommended dose was 5 days a week on and 2 days a week off. Here is a copy of three posts by Ted discussing dosing of borax for arthritis that illustrate this dosing change :

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

Dear Lori: It has been known for ages that arthritis is a rare occurence whenever boron is found present in drinking water. Israel for example has below 1% having arthritis due to high boron in drinking water. Most drinking water with high boron, are the form of sodium tetraborate, which is borax. For more detailed discussion about boron and arthritis:

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/06/08/boron_and_arthritis.htm

What is so strange is boron and fluoride are a somewhat opposing force. For example, if you take boron fluoride is removed from the body. Actually fluoride stunts growth in plants, animals the same way as does aluminum. If I were a farmer the biggest enemies are to livestock and plants are fluoride and aluminum. I tend to believe the cause of most arthritis to be one of microorganisms found along the joints. Those bacteria are of mycoplasma (from frequent vaccinations, since they are high in it), mycobacterium, and staphylococcus. Each of these tend to form colonies around the cartilage, before they ever get worse. The factor that helps their growth are high free metal iron, lack of boron, high sugar, high calcium which protects the colonies. Staphylococcus is a unique bacteria that digests your cartilage, something they call proteoglycan and once the cartilage or out the other bacteria does the other work in digesting the along the joints rich in calcium, iron, and lack of circulation, being to their advantage as they are anaerobic creatures. The only way to reverse the condition depends on the inital condition of the arthritis, if it is just joint pain in the beginning like mine, it will take me a couple of days. For you it could take a lot longer for the healing. The method of treatment is to kill off these microorganism and it won't be easy since it is to an advanced stage due to traumatic arthritis. However, an average dose I think are appropriate are 25 mg of borax in drinking water, or I can just do it another way around with 1/8 - 1/4 teaspoon of borax in one liter of drinking water that is drank in divided dose throughout the day. I would drink it either twice a week or once a week. What borax does is it kills the mycobacterium, mycoplasma and some of the staph. The frequency of dose, mentioned here is conservative and it taken at least once or twice a week. In event there's no side effect if I take it to be observed, I would try to take it more often maybe up to 3 or 4 times a week maximum. Staphyloccocus weaknesses is of magnesium citate or magnesium gluconate 250/mg day. If the body has plentiful supplies of magnesium staph growth along the joint is limited. Taking this at 5 days out of a week should be sufficient and some vitamin C sodium ascorbate 250 mg at least about 5 days out of a week should also help.

I have always had problems getting rid of the free metal iron that exists along the joints feeding the microbial growth, in which case, chlorella capsules taken once a day maybe helpful. Green tea, unsugared or any tea that are not of black color would be high in tannins. Tannins have an affinity of pulling out some iron out of the body. Once the iron is lowered, the microbial growth is limited. In case if you want to look at other minerals, gettin some hair mineral analysis, and have a look especially on the Molybdenum, Cobalt, Iron, Silver, Iodine, Magnesium, boron and some others. Those are the suspect minerals that seem to encourage or discourage microbial growth. For example, silver or colloidal silver, taken everyday, one tablespoon twice a day for several months will encourage stem cells in the body, but the best thing of all is it seems to destroy the "slime" or biofilms along the joints. If those are destroyed, the microbes have no way of surviving and eating up your joints. Another example is molybdenum supplements should be taken, if you can find them! They discourage bacterium growth on the bones and it actually used to prevent cavities if added in toothpaste. Molybdenum is far safer than fluoride as it is an essential mineral as well, helping the remineralization of the bones and teeth, being one of them. The usual dose I think is between 5-10 mg per day, if you can find them!

It is important also to at least take 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda and 1/4 teaspoon of citric acid, in 1/2 glass of water, or 8 teaspoon of freshly squeezed lime plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda twice a day to keep the body in an alkaline mode. The reason is bacteria and their biofilms tend to exists in the medium of pH below 6. So if the body's urinary pH is raised to (by increasing baking soda dose) to about 7, then the growth will be limited, and this encourages healing of your joint. Certain proteins taken befor sleep may encourage some growth hormone by taking secretagogues, such as 1/2 tablespoon of glycine and 1/2 tablespoon of glutamine, before bedtime. This might help some regeneration. Once the microbes are destroyed, and you still need to take supplements to disourage their growth, still, taking certain supplements to encourage regeneration is possible with aloe vera oil, or aloe vera supplements. Comfrey poultice applied along the joints may help as allantoin content is known to encourage bone repair in people with broken bones, so joint healing may also be possible. I however prefer to take allantoin as a supplements maybe 10-50 mg/day might help too, with some aloe vera. As for me, my arthritis issue is never a serious one, just taking some borax 1/4 teaspoon for 1-2 days and on the third day and the rest of the week, its gone. That's because I know what is causing my problems. But with severe forms, it may take several months, to almost a year to actually heal what has happened. I don't believe so much in using metal joint replacement. It has been my observation that friends of my relatives who did joint replacement further cause the ones to be broken. Apparently the found that once the plug the joints, the mycobacterium ate away at the screws of the joints which attaches to the bone. When this happens, the joints no longer hold and it osteoporosis eats the entire bone where there is no furhter place in which the metal can support the bones, since there is no more bones to support it. It is a sort of Catch-22. The real issue, I believe is not the wear an tear. Its been known for ages that microbes eat away on your bones, but is ignored by mainstream medicine, at least, that's my opinion only. If the body still have regenerative capacity, your body can heal, and colloidal silver according to Dr. Robert Becker, has the ability to cause cells to be dedifferentiation - which is another word for stem cells. ' <<<

And then this post :

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

Hand arthritis is the condition of the mycoplasma and the mycobacterium and they exists because it eats the bones causing lumps of the bones around the end. The mycobacterium protects themselves against the effect of antibiotics and other things by creating a calcium shells to survive. The second kind of bacterium that caused the fusing of joints such that the fingers can no longer move, is due to a staphylococcus like bacteria that eats up the cartilage between the joints. Mycobacterium have their weakness of a tiny amount of borax and staphyloccocus have their weakness of magnesium. Borax I took maybe 2-3 times a week at 1/8 or 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of drinking water. The staphyloccus like bacteria (cartilage eating kind) have a weakness for magnesium. So 250 mg, is diluted in a glass of water and drink that usually 5 days out of a week. The removal of iron, which disodium EDTA can be taken in fairly diluted solution (mixed with plenty of water), as this is how the body actually absorbed it. Green tea contains tannins and tannic acid, which chelates directly the free metal iron directly responsible for feeding both mycobacterium and the staphyloccocus like bacteria around the joint and should remove the food source. The most important remedy, whether you use the apple cider vinegar with baking soda, or the lemon with baking soda, is actually the baking soda. But when mixed with the others, allows for the body to attain better alkalization. This is the major parts of the arthritis remedy that was tested to work the best. Other supporting remedies include vitamin D3, and vitamin K2, and soy milk (manganese). They all help and you can feel the difference the next day. There are others, and I am looking into them I write. This remedy works better than anything I have seen, after lots of trial and error of course. It must be remembered that urine pH achieves 7.0 otherwise the bacteria will persist in the body. Preferably an electronic pH meters is best, otherwise, most pH papers are way off even the best quality ones and it is a real waste of time - it wasted me one whole year (actually more, like 1.5) of misdirected effort. ' <<<

And also this post :

>>> '

Replied by Ted
Bangkok, Thailand
383 posts

Rick: The reason why ibuprofen (or ibuprophen) works is that it is antifungal. Much of the arthritis and foot pain from bones is the mycobacterium, and other fungus like bacterium. Therefore I would take a 1/4 teaspoon (men's dose) borax for about 5 days out of a week, with some 10 drops of 3% H2O2 in one liter of drinking water. I would also take plenty of magnesium supplements such as magnesium citrate 250-500 mg/day for 5 days out of a week. I may also consider taking vitamin B complex, at least a B50 kind (50 mg of most B's) for two days out of a week. Alkalization is important also necessary to kill these fungus causing arthritis and a good remedy may be 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water twice a day, or perhaps a 2 tablespoon lime juice plus 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in 1/2 glass of water (at least) taken twice a day. Other supplements I may consider is 20, 000 I.u. of vitamin D3 and 100 mcg of vitamin K2 or K3. Soy milk is quite helpful for arthritis, perhaps from the vitamin K and the manganese, in which it is high in. A soy milk should be UNSUGARED and taken about 250 cc, twice a day, which is more like a glass of it twice a day. ' <<<

Continued success to you!

Art

Renee
(Boston)
06/08/2022
41 posts

This is hard for me since my mother had SEVERE osteoporosis and I was diagnosed with osteopenia several years ago: "The factor that helps their growth are high free metal iron, lack of boron, high sugar, high calcium which protects the colonies." I NEED to take calcium. Do you have any advice?

Renee
(Boston)
06/08/2022
41 posts

UPDATE

I decided to go with the 2 straight weeks approach. So far I only had to take 5mg prednisone 2 times in 2 weeks, once for the chronic hives I get and one time for inflammation in my arthritis. Other than that I feel relatively great considering I take no medication or NSAIDS. I still have a little inflammation in my elbow, my wrist and a few fingers but it's not painful, just visibly noticeable. Today and tomorrow I will take 2 days off and try the 5 days on approach since I seem to tolerate the borax so well. I don't have any ill side effects from it at all. I have a bottle of hydroxychloroquine sitting on my desk waiting for me to begin taking it. As long as the borax continues to help me I will not take that medication but I'm glad I have it as a backup in case I stop having success with home remedies. That and my few prednisone are sort of my emergency stash that just gives me comfort knowing I have it. I still haven't made an eye appointment that is required to take the HC because I have faith that I will not need it. Some people I tell what I am doing think I'm out of my mind but others keep their mouths shut because they know I research practically everything and that I hate big Pharma and most doctors. I constantly make fun of every commercial pushing drugs that cause worse conditions than what you have. The only reason I accepted the HC is because I felt that would be the safest of all of the RA drugs if I had no other choice. Another Update on DMSO: I have been putting it on specific areas every night for about 2 weeks. I don't know if it's helping or not but will continue to use it until it's gone, then I will re-evaluate. Another update on taking a bath with Borax, Epsom salts and Baking Soda: My skin got extremely DRY. I tend to overdo things and I took this bath 3 nights in a row. My skin got real flakey! On the upside, the jets in my tub got real clean, lol. I stopped this bath because I don't think it helped any more than just a bath with Epsom salts. My skin is much happier.

Art
(California)
06/08/2022
2125 posts

Renee,

I'm glad your arthritis is continuing to improve with your regular use of borax! Clearly your pain levels have declined significantly! It is the simplest, least expensive and easy to take remedy for different types of arthritis. I am also glad that you are one of the lucky ones who can tolerate borax!

Your results seem similar to mine where I just got steady improvement until all symptoms were just gone.

How long have you been on the 1/8th teaspoon dose?

Three to four months is supposedly when you have reached the maximum improvement that borax seems to offer.

Art

Renee
(Boston)
06/09/2022
41 posts

I started with just a pinch a day on May 10th but got nervous and bought Boron supplements. Started 6mg Born supplements on May 15th. When that didn't help I went to 1/8th Borax on May 18th, 4 days on 3 days off. After reading about your friend who took it 2 straight weeks I started that on May 25th to yesterday, June 8th. So even though I started May 10th it wasn't a consistent amount. Today I'm feeling a lot of inflammation in my hand for some reason. The only thing I did different was eat some ice cream the other night. I wonder if that contributed. The other thing is I find it easier to measure 1/8th and put half in my coffee in the AM and the other half later in the day. Is there a reason it's supposed to be sipped thruout the day? Is it more effective that way or less side effects for some?

Art
(California)
06/09/2022
2125 posts

Renee,

We don't know the reason for sipping it through the day because I don't think Ted ever explained it, but I think one reason is because it is essentially a slow controlled release so you maintain a more steady level in your system throughout the day. Another possible reason is because some people who might not be able to tolerate the full daily dose all at once, may be able to tolerate a full dose dispersed throughout the day. So spreading the dose may make it more tolerable for more people and potentially decrease the potential for a negative reaction..

Although I started that way, once I got to pain free, I would drink it faster and now I just drop my 1/4 teaspoon full in my mouth and wash it down with orange juice and it is still working.

As you can see from Ted's posts, he kept increasing the dose until he got to 5 days on and 2 days off.

I tried different doses of boron based supplements and 6 mg had zero effect for me, but boron is a potential option for those who do not tolerate borax.

I just keep it simple at a 1/4 teaspoon of borax and that is easiest for me to do.

Art

Gary
(Kitchener On)
06/09/2022

Hi Renee,

I found that the best salt is Celtic Sea Salt.

It is cleaned and has 3 different Magnesiums, where the Pink Salt is dug by hand and never cleaned.

good job, love this site

Gary

Bill
(Philippines)
06/09/2022

Hi Renee...The reason the borax solution is always sipped throughout the day is because the human body is also constantly excreting the borax at the same time. So, by constantly sipping the one liter borax solution every day, you will maintain a constant and necessary amount of borax spread evenly in your body throughout the day, which therefore helps to maintain the proper concentration of borax in the blood that will act continuously to kill the active nano bacteria(ie mycobacteria and mycoplasma) that are causing your osteoarthritis problem.

And the reason you must take the borax solution every day on a 4-day-on and 3-day-off basis is because supplementing borax always causes increased gland secretions in the human body. In particular, it will stimulate and increase the sex hormones in the body, which is not a bad thing in itself but might, in the end, have the effect of straining those glands due to increased or excessive hormone production. And that's why you should always take the borax solution on a 4-day-on/3-day-off basis.

Just to also let you know that there is no reason to fear taking borax. The MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet, which is the Bible for chemical safety and toxicity) for borax shows that borax actually has the same or similar toxicity profile as common table salt.

I'm also a 72 y. o. guy and I've been taking borax on a daily basis for about 15 years. I now just take a couple or three pinches of borax a day in my drinking water or coffee or whatever. I completely trust my usage of borax and I've never ever had a problem with my borax usage. I've been using borax as a successful preventative against arthritis but I also use it to prevent fungal infections as well -- borax is the ultimate anti-fungal! Borax is also useful to help detox and remove fluorine from my body.

Robert S.
(USA)
06/22/2022

Yes, the idea is to get a constant amount in the bloodstream to get it into the cells consistently instead of ups & downs. If you know the half life of borax in the body, you can adjust it more precisely.

jake from chicago
(chicago)
06/10/2022
★★★★★

I took a pinch of borax in my drinking water before bed last night and had a stretch of 4 and a 1/2 hoursof deep sleep before waking, which is about double of my normal. Question - you say to keep boron in your system throughout the day, but you also say you just put a pinch or 2 or 3 in your coffee and drink just once a day. Could you clarify whether you do the pinch once per day or more often throughout the day. Thanks much!

Renee
(Boston)
06/23/2022
41 posts
★★★★★

I am measuring out 1/8 and adding small amounts from the measuring spoon to my coffee throughout the day. I drink a lot of coffee, lol. It works for me and I'm still drug free. I had to use 5mg of prednisone a few times until the Borax kicked in. I'm still not at the max timeframe for results yet. I still have 2 swollen fingers but I can use them, they're not painful and swelling is somewhat reduced, my elbow is not completely straight yet but that does not hurt either and is much straighter than before. My sciatica seems to have almost completely disappeared. I'm extremely grateful to find out about this miracle. Thank you everyone.

Art
(California)
06/23/2022
2125 posts

Renee,

I'm very glad that the borax is working well for you to reverse your arthritis!

The arthritis damages joints and once the borax stops the damage process, the body can then start to repair some of the joint damage which can take time, whereas before the joint damage was occurring faster than the body could repair the damage. Continued success to you! You are now using a very simple, very inexpensive method to keep your arthritis in remission indefinitely. The cost of using borax for arthritis is less than a dollar per year and it doesn't get any simpler than an 1/8th teaspoon of borax for 4 or 5 days of the week!

Art

Replied by Bodulica
(Barrie, Canada)
06/23/2022

What form of borax do you use? No one is explaining it. The one used in laundry?

Thanks

EC: Yes. People are almost always referring to Twenty Mule Team Borax.

Renee
(Boston)
06/23/2022
41 posts

I'm using the one recommended on this site by others.

20 mule team borax

I bought boron supplements just in case, 3mg on Amazon, but I'm sticking with the laundry soap because it works.

Replied by Gail
(Ohio)
06/28/2022

Is it ok to continue heating the mixture each day to dissolve the borax? The jar I use cools off over night.

Renee
(Boston)
06/29/2022
41 posts

I don't heat mine to dissolve it because I'm putting mine in coffee. I only put it in cold water one time and I believe it dissolved ok. It was such a tiny amount and I had lemon in it so it was hard to see in a colored plastic pool cup. I heated it to dissolve it in large amounts to use topical but have since stopped using it topically because I didn't see any added benefits after 2 or 3 weeks of use. I may try it again at some point. I also did a bath with it and baking soda, my skin dried to a crisp. I may have overdone it though, 3 nights in a row! It cleaned my bathtub jets though!

Replied by LakeLady
(Massachusetts)
07/02/2022

So interesting! I might try it. How can you be sure it's the Borax doing the trick, not the DMSO? (I have used DMSO occasionally).

I also wonder if Borax would help for muscle tension (my back pain is a combination of muscle tension and chronic soreness from a burst fracture of L-1 12 years ago). Not sure if I technically have arthritis.

Thanks.

Renee
(Boston)
07/05/2022
41 posts

I quit using the DMSO because I didn't think it was doing anything. I only used it externally. I might go back to it and try again because on my 'off' days of borax my inflammation comes back! I only know it works for arthritis, not sure about other ailments.

LakeLady
(Boston)
07/06/2022

Thanks for your reply Renee!

Art
(California)
07/05/2022
2125 posts

Renee,

Thank you for the update!

If your symptoms go away during your on days, you might try adding a day of borax to your regimen. At least until you get better control of the arthritis. I can tell by what you have been writing in your posts that you are steadily increasing your control of the arthritis and your remaining symptoms are lessening as time goes by. Once you get good control you should not need DMSO at all and may be able to subtract the extra day of borax. Remember, Dr. Newnham said up to 3 to 4 months of borax before you will be seeing the maximum benefit that borax has to offer you. Keep it simple to make it easier to follow Ted's remedy.

Art

Replied by Kathy
(NC)
10/23/2022

Hey which DMSO did you buy? Can you specify? There are so many, very anxious to use this remedy for me and my husband. Also do you do the lotion recipe that was referenced?

Deirdre
(NC)
10/25/2022

Hi Kathy,

Heiltropfen is the brand I have bought a bunch of times.

https://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Dimethyl-sulfoxide-Pharmaceutical-Heiltropfen/dp/B00ZNV5N8U?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Low odor DMSO - Dimethyl sulfoxide liquid (3.4 Oz - 100ml), Pharmaceutical grade, High purity, Heiltropfen

Pam
(New Zealand)
04/01/2023

We are banned from buying DMSO here in so-called democratic, free New Zealand.

Vets can use it and you can buy that quality for your farm animals or race horses.

BUT people NO.

Not even if it is just an ingredient in the product as on Amazon.

Aja
(NZ)
08/10/2023

I'm getting it from an online garden place. Borax from the same place.

Replied by Jim
(Fort Smith)
02/24/2023

Thanks for sharing. How long is the solution in the bottle good for?

Art
(California)
04/01/2023
2125 posts
Art
(California)
04/02/2023
2125 posts
Replied by Liz
(Alberta)
04/04/2023

I mix up a 1teaspoon of borax into a 1 lite of distilled water, This is my concentrate and from this bottle, I take I teaspoon of the mixture into a smoothie every second day for the past year. I don't know if it helped because I had no arthritis and thought at 77 would help for maintenance. When I saw the recipe for applying it externally, with DMSO, I printed and stuck on my fridge and quit taking it internally, Then I had a fall in the gym end of January to my right side and lower backside that had me pretty immobile for 2 weeks to get dressed and help to get ex-rays. No fractures, but healing slowly, It's now been 10 weeks and still have pain in the side and backside. This past week, I got DMSO and read all about and followed the receipe to the letter and applied to my side and lower back., used 2 drops. Half an hour later, the pain was more intense and never let up until bed, Next day, tried again with 3 drops and still in pain and now today I am in worse pain in my side, So I am ready to give up and wondering what I am doing wrong or what does a few drops mean for DMSO. I have a soft tissue pain in my side, Walking with cane. Any suggestions, maybe try castor oil with DMSO? Thank you,

Art
(California)
04/05/2023
2125 posts

Liz,

You might try a topical over the counter pain reliever that I have found to be fairly effective for pain relief. It is called Stopain and comes in a roll on bottle. Here is a link to it :

https://www.amazon.com/Stopain-Extra-Strength-Roll-Triple/dp/B000GG12IM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HKBI0F64YUWF&keywords=Stopain&qid=1680713981&sprefix=stopain,aps,142&sr=8-1&th=1

It is also available at Walmart if you have one near you.

Art

Liz
(Alberta)
04/05/2023

Art,

Thank you for your quick response. Unfortunately, StopPain is out of stock at Amazon US and went online to Amazon in Canada, out of stock and have no indication when product will arrive. They don't carry it in Walmart.ca. I will keep looking for it online.

I have read all your posts on this site and feel that you are quite knowledgeable. I'm wondering why I reacted to the borax externally when I have been drinking it and quite often bathing with it with Epsom
salts for the past year without any effects.

I'm not taking any drugs to dull the pain. Today used Aloe vera plant gel and rubbed into pain spots. Helped for 1/2 hour. Going to see Dr. tomorrow for what other tests to see what's going on with my right side. And buy caster oil and use that combination with DSMO and see if it helps. Thanks for all your help.

Art
(California)
04/06/2023
2125 posts

Liz,

Since Stopain is unavailable in Canada, and since you are treating a fairly limited area, another consideration as a topical pain reliever is Voltaren Gel. It is at least as strong as Stopain, but I rarely recommend it because if applied to larger areas, it can potentially have negative side effects. It is odorless and works quickly. It previously was only available by prescription.

It is hard on my end to know what will be readily available in other countries. Stopain is readily available here, but apparently not in Canada. Here is a link to a typical product :

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=Voltaren+Gel&crid=3SVNVDHKJKBCD&sprefix=voltaren+gel,aps,126&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

It is worth mentioning that house brand versions of Voltaren are less expensive and just as effective. For instance Walgreens has their own version and it is less expensive and Walmart also has their version which is less expensive. The main thing is that they all have the same active ingredient, Diclofenac Sodium Gel 1%, and that is what offers effective pain relief. That one you should also be able to get at your local pharmacies.

As far as your topical reaction to Borax, it may be the concentration level. Topically in a bath is very highly diluted and would be less likely to be reactive with the skin, but your concentrated solution is just that, highly concentrated and in that case could be reactive with the skin. Also, Borax has a fairly high pH around 9.5, compared to the skin pH in the 5's and that could be another reason for your reaction.

Art


Arthritis
Posted by LuRae (AZ) on 11/12/2021
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I got liquid boron and take 12 mg or two droppers under my tongue each morning. It completely took stiffness and discomfort of hurting finger joints away.


Arthritis
Posted by Cheryl (Ontario) on 11/03/2021
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Hello, I have started using Borax to help with an arthritic knee with much relief after only a few days. I have shared this with a friend who has concerns about taking it while on prednisone to treat an autoimmune form of arthritis..

Does anyone have experience or know if it's ok to use if you are on prednisone?

Replied by Art
(California)
11/03/2021
2125 posts

Hi Cheryl,

I used oral prednisone while using borax very long term and did not have a problem, but we are all different and react differently.

Art

Mila
(Ontario)
12/16/2021

I am quite confused with the dosage- I am taking 1 tbsp a day from mix of 1/8 tsp if borax in 1 l of distilled water - some sites suggest to drink that 1 litre if the mix of borax a day - please advise 🙏👍

Replied by CJG
(Ohio)
11/21/2021

I had very bad bursitis in my shoulder. I used a solution of borax and water (1 tsp / 1 liter) and soaked a cotton cloth and applied it to my shoulder several times a day.

I was hesitant to drink the solution, so decided applying it topically would be OK (not sure why I thought that, the skin is a huge organ which absorbs all kinds of things, including Epsom salts and baking soda in a bath) The application at room temperature felt so good and relieving. After about a week, the swelling in my shoulder had diminished and pain was greatly relieved. I kept it up for weeks, and the bursitis went away. My orthopedist wanted to inject cortisone. I said I would consider it if taking glucosamine and condroitin didn't help and that I would let him know. He actually told me that some of his patients had good results from quitting dairy consumption since dairy is an inflammatory...so I did that, also.

Replied by Susi
(Madison Alabama)
12/01/2021

Taking prednisone, in general, is bad news period. DR'S prescribe it so much that people ate constantly getting sicker. It takes 18 months for it to detox out of our bodies. And people with Parkinson's can go wacko. Hallucinations and not sleeping which is a scary bad situation to watch your dad go through. Or anyone for that matter. But within 18 months most Dr's a reason to prescribe it again and therefor add on to what's still left in our bodies the last time. Unintentional I'm sure. That's why it's said you need to take responsibility f or your own health.research it to be convinced which I encourage that anyway. As I do the same when I hear something new. Just passing g along what I heard and experience as well as further research.

Sincerely,
Susi from Alabama


Arthritis
Posted by DDDDDuane (NYC) on 10/08/2021
★★★★★

I know borax therapy mostly as an arthritis cure...(straight out of the laundry box)... After 6 months of approximately a quarter teaspoon every day cured the arthritis in my ankle...


Arthritis
Posted by RonEBorden (Florida, USA) on 10/02/2021
★★★★★

I started using Borax for arthritis three weeks ago. It is very effective. Arthritis might be a combination of boron deficiency and parasite and fungal infection.

Replied by Valerie
(New Zealand)
04/21/2022

I'm not great with maths so need some help. I'd like to make my own boron drops to place in tea as I prefer to drink different fluids during the day. If I have a 100 ml dropper bottle, and wish each drop to represent 6mg boron, exactly what quantity of borax would I had to the 100 mls to make such?

hands and wrists
(Joshua Tree, CA)
05/07/2022

1 ml = 20 drops, so 100 ml = 2000 drops For 1 drop to equal 6 mg of Boron, 2000 drops must have 12000 mg of Boron or 1.2g. But Borax is not pure Boron. 25 to 30 mg of Borax contains 3 mg of Boron.

To make the calculation simpler I will choose 30 mg. That means 1 mg of Boron is contained in 10 mg of Borax. We need 1.2 g of Boron, which is in 12 g of Borax. You need 12g of Borax per 100 ml of water. I'm not sure that much Borax will dissolve in that much water. If not, add another 100 ml of water. Then you will have to use 2 drops to get your 6 mg of Boron.


Arthritis
Posted by Mike (Des Moines, IA) on 06/30/2021
★★★★☆

I am taking borax 5 days a week for joint pain in the last 8 months. My pain has been reduced 80%, but in the last 2 months, I have not seen any improvement. Any suggestions?

Replied by Michellle
(Arizona)
07/11/2021

How much do you take? I made my mixture not sure how much to take?


Arthritis
Posted by Glenn (New Braunfels, TX) on 05/28/2021
★★★★★

Borax worked for me! Shortly after starting a Borax regimen, I noticed that I stopped popping ibuprofen and acetaminophen all day like candy.

In context: I am days from 70, and previously made lifestyle changes to overcome prostate issues: high PSA and BPH. Three years ago, my right shoulder started to hurt a little, maybe from mousing all day at work.

I started some shoulder exercises with Dick's #10 bands, and have worked up to about 3 hour workouts twice a week with #40-70 bands, and mow with a push mower. Still, there was continual right shoulder pain. If I do a 40# bench press, it will creak and squeak a dozen times per down and up.

So I had a heating pad, and a car heating pad, applied Icy Hot and Capzasin-HP and other salves, took the allowed daily limit of Ibuprofen, and Acetaminophen, and all these supplements: Turmeric-Curcumin, Glucosamine-Chondroitin, a Multivitamin, C, Omega-3, Ashwagandha, and Alpha Lipoic Acid, plus three for prostate/testosterone/libido. Still, chronic pain.

About 2-3 months ago, I learned of Steve Mabey's Borax video, goggled hard all the facts, did the math, and added this daily:

When I wake up, I drink two 12-oz mugs of water with 1/2 tsp baking soda in each cup, first thing, to hydrate and alkalize my body. Then, spread out over the day, in about three of my many frequent mugs of Green tea + Instant coffee + Cacao, I drop in about 1/16 tsp of Epsom Salt (for Magnesium) and 1/16 tsp of laundry Borax (for Boron). That's small enough to barely taste. In perhaps a couple of weeks, real relief has come upon me. Nice!


Arthritis
Posted by You are what you eat (Dallas, Texas ) on 04/14/2021
★★★★★

Borax for arthritis

I use I every day. Last year, I was a month out from getting a knee replacement and my nurse sister told me about borax. Well 1 week of using it, I didn't get a total knee replacement and am 90% pain free.

1 tablespoon in a 1 liter bottle mix. Take a tablespoon-sized drink of this concentrate. Mix with water or coffee whatever you like to drink.

Replied by Gracie
(UK)
04/16/2021

Surely, it should be 1/8 teaspoonful for a female, and 1/4 teaspoonful for a male, added to one litre of water.

BevilNC
(NC)
11/13/2021

Gracie,

If you are drinking the entire liter then yes, it is 1/8 tsp for women and 1/4 tsp for men. The other option for dosing is the above...1 TBSP to one liter but only take one tablespoon of the liquid, not the entire liter.

Replied by Annette
(TX)
07/13/2021

Do you only take one tablespoon daily? Sorry I'm confused. Can you elaborate?

Replied by Rosie
(Mays Landing, NJ)
08/29/2021

Hi, my dad needs a knee replacement and he is in slot of pain. Was your dosage, 1 tablespoon per day from the liter mixed concentrate or did take the tablespoon more than once? Did you always mix it with coffee or juice?

ORH
(TEN MILE , TN)
08/29/2021

ROSIE, ORH here, and have told this story a jillion times about an ozone shot 14 years ago avoided having to replace my right knee. I do have to go get a shot every 3 or 4 years and it is now time again. I have known folks that had knee replacements and still had the pain and got the ozone shot and were pain free. You need to go into the archives of EC because too much borax can be toxic and you way off base. ===ORH===

Boaz93
(Pa)
11/05/2021

Definitely 1/8 tsp to 1/4 tsp of Borax in 1 litre water bottle. Spread it out during the day. OR... One and a half Tsp of Borax in one litre of water in which you take 1-2 tbsp per day of the stronger solution.

Mike
(New Zealand)
12/25/2021
★★★★★

If you mix a quarter of a teaspoon of borax with one litre of water. Ten mls of this liquid equals one mg of boron. The maximum daily dose of boron is 20 mg. It is best to stay under 10 mg per day. I take 20 ml of the liquid every 12 hours . That is 8 mg of boron per day. Borax powder is around 10% boron. I have severe osteo-arthtitis iin the spine and the borax really works.

Liz
(AZ)
01/10/2022

Where do you find a practitioner who gives ozone shots? Can you describe how/why it works? My hip is in desperate shape. Thanks!

Rakaia
(Perth Australia)
02/17/2022

Hi Mike, how long have you been taking the Borax and how soon did you notice an improvement? I have osteoarthritis in my hips along with tears in my tendons and ligaments. Anything you have noticed I would appreciate hearing about.🌸😬

Karen
(Wyoming)
05/22/2022

Dr Frank Shallenburger...but google ozone practitioners in your area

Replied by Michael
(New Zealand)
11/12/2021

I know Boron is strongly recommended for Arthritis but even so, that seems like a remarkably quick cure!

Normally, arthritics spend years searching for just a little relief, never mind such a rapid recovery.

Are you sure it was Arthritis you experienced?

I like the idea of a few drops placed under the tongue: that is the way in which Homeopathic remedies are supposed to be rapidly absorbed, so good for you for going down that track.

I would love to know for how long you took the treatment before you experienced relief in your fingers?

Also, how many seconds did you keep the drops there before swallowing: that might be significant.

That would be useful information to learn from you.

Cheers from Down Under

Replied by BevilNC
(NC)
11/13/2021
★★★★★

For all of the nay-sayers I can attest to this rapid healing being true. I had several calcified discs in my back from an injury when I was young. My spine was not able to move along those discs and I had a bony projection in my back from the calcification. I could not even be leaned back in a dental chair without turning to the side a bit because of the projection. I could not roll over in bed without groaning in pain and my lower spine had begun to curve.

I started the borax protocol and rid my home of fluoride and within a couple of days my knees and finger stiffness were gone...before the end of the second week the calcified discs broke free and I had normal range of motion in my spine.

It REALLY does work this fast! Borax is less toxic than table salt. When I first was brave enough to decide to try it I got the Material Data Safety sheets for both to see for myself. You can search for them and get them online if you are concerned and see for yourself.

So do not be frightened off by those saying it is dangerouse...IT IS NOT! That was the drivel that the pharma industry used to try to discredit Dr. Rex Newnham when he presented this cure. Natural substances can not be patented so the pharma industry can't profit from it and they will suppress this information at all costs.

LakeLady
(Boston)
07/06/2022

Thanks for your input BevilNC! I broke my back 12 years ago and wonder if I now have arthritis or calcification; seems likely, given my age now (54). I just started using borax externally about 4 nights ago; so far I notice a little improvement in terms of less stiffness and ache. I might try taking it (20 Mule Team) internally now, after reading all these posts.

Bevil
(NC)
02/19/2022
★★★★★

I can't speak for Mike but when I discovered the borax cure years ago it only took a day or two until I noticed significant improvement, fingers and knees no longer stiff and with in a couple weeks back issues were gone! It works really fast...just be sure to stop your fluoride intake...use distilled water and get the fluoride free tooth paste


Arthritis
Posted by Sara B. (USA) on 02/09/2021 1 posts
★★★★★

I had read the Borax, Arthritis connection here on Earth Clinic but didn't try it at first. I have began running again and my knees were clicking and sore as heck even after a long rest period. Then my fingers and shoulders started hurting, I not sure the connection with this and running but maybe my body was out of whack.

I began taking a pinch of Mule Team Borax in my coffee for about a week and had no relief. I then increased my dose to 1/4 teaspoon every morning in my coffee. After five days I started feeling relief in my knees and fingers. I did a seven mile run and my knees felt lubricated and hardly any pain the next day. I am amazed this has worked and will continue.


Replied by Bill B.
(Vancouver, BC Canada)
12/22/2020

Why the coral calcium, magnesium and iodine drops? I take magnesium citrate, which remains completely successful in preventing night leg cramps after strenuous daily sport. I am a believer in the benefits of iodine after spending the healthiest of my 79yrs when in and around the sea.

Arthritis
Posted by Oomybeauty (Earth Clinic's Youtube Channel) on 08/29/2020
★★★★★

1 month taking a tiny little pinch of borax in my drink like water or coffee ☕ a day. Have noticed a very significant decrease in my arthritic pain in my hip which was at a range of 4 to 8 now it is at a 2 to 5 . I could hardly do anything, including walking, going up and down stairs, shoes, even stretching was excruciating! Now I can do treadmill for 15 minutes to half an hour, not be in wincing pain stretching, no pain sleeping, and the hip has not been giving out like it did. Finding these vids was really a great gift 🎁 from God !! Thank you so very much for sharing this vital lifesaver info 😊 ❤!

EC: Comment on our Borax for Arthritis video here: https://youtu.be/p6x-9A6pEJc

Replied by oomybeauty
(EC's YouTube page)
11/10/2020
★★★★★

3 months, taking one pinch of mule team borax in my Starbucks coffee. My super painful hip pain, from arthritis, is almost gone. I am still limping but pain is so I can put shoes on, jeans, leggings, = no pain, also pain from sleeping and sitting is almost gone. Added coral calcium/ magnesium and iodine drops. My teeth, nails, whites of eyes, mental sharpness= all improved. Highly recommend a pinch a day of borax!

Also, I did feel the detox effect, I just took aspirin or migraine meds and took a day off from borax. Will continue to update.

Louis
(Pittsburgh, Pa)
03/13/2021

May I please ask, when you say a little pinch in your Coffee are you using the 1/4 teaspoon like it says for a whole liter of water? Have you had any side effects at all?

Replied by SusanK
(Spfld MO)
02/25/2021

Wondering if your results are still successful with daily Borax? Any issues? My natural health person didn't know anything about it.

Replied by Rebecca
(Ypsilanti, Michigan)
04/14/2022

I'm bone on bone in my right hip. Will borax help?


Arthritis
Posted by Jack (Durham) on 06/02/2020
★★★★★

Borax is very good for arthritis and general health.


Arthritis
Posted by Susan (Toronto) on 05/13/2020
★★★★★

I was taking a borax solution - pinch of borax in a tall glass of water - off and on for a couple of months. Then stopped during covid-19 a couple of months ago. In the past two weeks, I have become increasingly sore and feeling arthritic in all joints, esp fingers, hips and knees.

I saw ORH's post on Earth Clinic and remembered that I too had stopped taking borax. Well guess what, in only a day back on a pinch of borax, all aches and pains are gone. This tells me that 1. you don't have to do the borax remedy constantly and 2. The effects last 2-3 months. Very happy the turn-around was that quick.

Replied by N N Epp
(ohio)
06/06/2020

Do you need to use distilled or purified water? Can I use Pur filtered water and get the same results? My arthritis is bad in fingers, wrists, knees. ankles and neck. Just started taking borax in water and will do every 3 days to start. Unless someone tells me otherwise. Thanks for your help.

Charity
(Faithville, Us)
06/06/2020

Remember while you are using borax or boron that it is ONE of your minerals and you need to keep them in balance or your body will produce histamine and you will have histamine symptoms until you get those minerals back into balance with water. Borax removes calcium out of soft tissue and let loose stones into organs . Chanca Piedra is nicknamed stonebreaker.


Arthritis
Posted by Lilikoi (Pahoa, Hawaii) on 12/28/2019
★★★★★

Borax works for me too for arthritis in a few of my fingers that were injured a few years ago. I just use a good pinch in my drinking water for the day. If I forget and skip for a few days they hurt again. When I take it the pain stops. Perhaps I should take more to keep my fingers in better shape!



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