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Borax for Arthritis: Protocols, Dosage, and What Earth Clinic Readers Report

| Modified on Jul 02, 2026
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Posted by neco (Austria) on 04/01/2026
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Boron Gives Life;

The brain contains 85% water, blood 90%, kidneys 82%, muscles 75%, and bones 22%. On average, men's bodies are 55-65% water, and women's bodies are 50-60% water. The brain has a high water content, and it functions well only in a watery environment; as the water content decreases, brain functions decline. If aluminum and calcium increase in the brain, calcification can cause forgetfulness, followed by Alzheimer's disease and other disorders. Boron, however, does not stand alone; it is found in a central structure with 2 boron elements, 4 sodium molecules attached to them, and 10 water molecules surrounding them. In 1997, Naghii and Samman applied a low-boron diet to one group of healthy men over 45, and a diet containing 10 mg of boron daily to another group. As a result of the research, calcium excretion in urine decreased in the men who took the supplement, and calcium retention in bones increased by 17%. Naghii M, Samman S. found that boron deficiency in humans and animals is associated with increased calcium excretion in urine. Nielsen F. determined that boron has a scavenging effect on reactive oxygen radicals in the cell membrane. Studies on humans and animals have shown that boron deficiency reduces the electrical activity of the brain. It has been stated that boron deficiency initially leads to short-term memory loss, attention deficit, impaired perception, decreased motor activity speed, and later to more severe disorders such as Alzheimer's, depression, schizophrenia, etc.

Boron-Calcium Metabolism (Wars, Antagonists = Enemy Brothers);

Whether we call the boron-calcium relationship metabolic changes, antagonistic oppositions, or boron-calcium buffer systems, there is a very complex boron-calcium relationship. This boron-calcium relationship... If boron decreases at any point in the body, calcium attempts to compensate for this deficiency. Where calcium accumulates, various diseases occur. When you replenish the depleted boron, calcium released from the bones returns to the bones, improving quality of life and eliminating diseases.

1) If boron decreases in the cell membrane, calcium takes its place. If calcium accumulates in the cell and cell membrane, the cell hardens and its functions decrease.

2) If boron decreases in the intercellular fluid, calcium takes its place. If calcium accumulates, the intercellular fluid becomes polluted, its flow slows down, and over time, a breeding ground for microbes, like a swamp, develops.

3) If boron decreases and calcium increases in the nervous system, the nervous system loses its conductivity and over time triggers disorders such as MS, polyneuropathy, nerve inflammation, forgetfulness, Alzheimer's, and depression.

4) If calcium replaces boron in the lymphatic system, the lymphatic system hardens. The lymphatic system collects waste like the body's mechanical systems. If calcium accumulates in the lymphatic system, the lymphatic channels become clogged and trigger inflammatory diseases. This can lead to swollen and inflamed lymph nodes, and later to lymphoma.

5) If calcium replaces boron on the inner surface of blood vessels, the vessels harden, and atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries and plaque formation) can cause conditions such as brain hemorrhage, heart attack, diabetes, fatty liver disease, and sexual dysfunction.

6) If calcium replaces boron in joints and soft tissues, conditions such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, osteoarthritis, fibromyalgia, and ankylosing spondylitis recur.

7) With a slightly increased boron intake, body temperature also increases slightly, thus gradually melting stored fats and causing weight loss. Considering that obesity kills 300,000 people annually, this weight loss method is very inexpensive and problem-free.

Source:
1. Benderdour, M., Bui-Van, T., Dicko, A., Belleville, F.: „Invivo and in vitro effects of boron and boronated compounds“ in J Trace Elem Med Biol, 1998,12(1):2-7;
2. Newnham, R. E.: „Arthritis: The Mainstay Of The, Health Industry‘ – The Disea


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Posted by Hollyhock (America) on 03/27/2026

I so agree with you! I was strict keto for 4 years, my health continued to go downhill until I couldn't even climb the stairs. I am still struggling with the effects of brain fog, heart palpitations, weakness, bone pain, etc.


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Posted by Janet (Illinois) on 03/27/2026

Yes, low or no carb will wreck your metabolism, thin your bones and down regulate your thyroid due to lack of glucose. It took me some years to figure it out. You will get better, safer results if you just eat clean, don't eat vegetable oils—canola and corn oils are the absolute worst and they plus others lower energy production at mitochondrial level. Fresh fruits. WHITE rice cooked veg and moderate fats and adequate protein. Just getting off grains and processed food made a huge difference. I should have stopped there but went keto and ruined my metabolism. 3 years later I'm still trying to heal it. Beware of keto and carnivore crap from the gurus. Also no IF or too much fasting. Humans are designed to eat food. Not live off air.


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Posted by Kimberly (Michigan) on 03/13/2026

Maybe try Boron from your local health food store or A-zon, it's only 4 mg but worth a try if the Borax upsets your system, best of luck.


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Posted by Ruralady (Illinois) on 02/19/2026 223 posts

We've been drinking RO water for 35yrs. If you have a balanced diet you should be getting the vitamins and minerals from that.


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Posted by Jeffrey (Illinois) on 02/18/2026

Reverse osmosis is a double edged sword, yes it takes all the bad stuff out but it also takes all the good minerals out also. Not good for living creatures it's horrible for house plants also.


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Posted by Reversing calcification (South Korea) on 01/26/2026

Even if you started using RO ten years ago, that would have no bearing on the fluoride already stored in your body for decades. Fluoride won't leave the body unless you manually decalcify your body. It is a heavy metal that has alchemized into denser than bone calcium (a form of anyways) and it isn't going anywhere unless dissolved. Guess what dissolves it? Borax! But having said that, most people forget with any detox, you need a binder if it is too much calcification in your body. It reaches the brain, organs, bones, skin, gut, etc. So even if you stopped intaking fluoride in all forms, (toothpaste, water, deodorant, shower water, food, etc) you still need to reverse the damage from all the years you didn't do anything but consume it.


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Posted by Ronnie (Arlington, TX) on 11/27/2025

Is Borax helpful for shoulder arthritis pain? How much and how do you take?


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Posted by Connie (Horicon, WI) on 11/13/2025

RO water has all minerals removed and is acidic! Not well for the body! I researched back in 2015 after finding flouride was cause to my bowel leakage and by avoiding fluoride in my diet…that bowel issue went away! So researched water statement read the cons to RO water. In 2016 invested in the Berkey system with add on fluoride filters! But good ol EPA ..after Berkey in business for well over 20 years ..decided to halt their production of their black filters with lame excuse the filters were considered a pesticide or something like that….basically the filters removed viruses and with the corrupt system was also using water supply to spread their covid….the Berkey company was then attacked! Berkey is fighting this and are other options to replacing their filters! A corrupt system that's bought health agencies ..like EPA…to stop …the good things!!!
But in researching water systems was not encouraged to use RO water mainly as it is acidic!


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Posted by Helen (Florida) on 11/12/2025

Be careful with RO. My girlfriend drank that her whole adult life and ended up with bladder cancer.

i used zero Water filters the last couple years and have had the worse IBS with diarrhea. Quit the zero water two weeks ago and my gut is back to normal. Not sure why but either they take out something we need or add something we don't need.


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Posted by Sharon (Gassville Arkansas) on 10/31/2025

I too add a teaspoon in my morning 12 Oz coffee. Been doing it 6 days now and my chronic pain has almost went away.


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Posted by Stephen Ryco (New South Wales) on 10/26/2025

I have read that reverse osmosis water may be too clean for your body in that a lot of minerals have been removed from the water. The RO water may be leaching minerals from your body. if you want to learn about water, read books about Viktor Schauberger. Brilliant man, but seldom mentioned.


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Posted by Art (California) on 10/23/2025 2891 posts

Hi Andi Hofmann,

Borax is a higher pH than baking soda. It has a pH of about 9.5.

Art


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Posted by Andi Hoffman (Germany) on 10/22/2025

Have you tried to add (part of) a drop Lugol's 5% a day, which is a hefty dose of 7.1mg total Iodine?

I have ramped up from the usual 150 µg to 4 drops so 28mg / d, and dine a bottle for a week with dilution.

But before (and while) taking Lugol's I filled up Magnesium (anything but oxide:) and Selenium (anything but NaSe so sodium-selenite as it aggravates heavy metal intoxications, yet the regulation authorities seeM to find this OK). Now ordered some organic mustard seeds based selenium pills fir reasonable price.

Some literature (Stefanie Buist “Supplementing Iodine”) also suggests looking at B vitamins, especially B2 and B3 in this context.

Inexpect Iodine and Borax to enhance their detoxing effects.

Also high doses of Borax can render iodine levels less efficient, so alone from this perspective co-supplementing makes sense.

I believe that 150 µg iodine is way too low, yet do not believe I should go to doses eg Brownstein suggests that helped his patients g40-140mg) without close monitoring of thyroid function ie regular tests of all ( 4?) thyroid parameters. Some people claim Brownstein's book caused a lot if people to disrupt their thyroid as they were not ready fir high iodine doses.

I do take away for me that by careful and mindful dose finding, I may use quite some Lugol's (the only supplement providing us also with elemental Iodine, I2, that some organs need).

And indeed I felt for the first time since astra clot shot in 2021 some energy over day and comforting sleepiness in evening so hope to restore my sleep pattern.

But I also do oxidative cure (CDS 50ml / L in bicarbonate and salt water on empty stomach, gets reverted back to salt form not tasting bad, so some CISS cure).

And many plant based stuff. Herbs. Healing fungi. Leafs (waknuts help me greatly, fits to people with fungal / rogue yeast probs).


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Posted by Andi Hofmann (Germany) on 10/22/2025

Sometimes I had no borax dissolved at hand.
So I took 2 finger tips pointing finger and threw into mouth and swallowed.
You can go creative.

I have to find out if Borax is alkaline, I suspect a bit, so I will avoid taking it around or on meals.

But I try ti

live to “non-optimal dosing or timing is better than no dosing at all!”

Avoid alkaline 1/2 hr before .. 1-2hr after meals:

As I am already low in stomach acid.

(Like 1/2 of patients of any office in a city were measured if 40yrs+. Yet I get lynched at any pharmacy if I say I need a stomach acid supplement. Of ciurse they have never heard if betaine HCl+ let alone have it available for reasonable price. It would lay dry 1/3 of “health” industry… :)

See eg. PantryPharmacy.com “The mother of all problems”:

https://pantrypharmacy.com/2018/12/18/the-mother-of-all-problems/


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Posted by Andi Hofmann (Germany) on 10/22/2025

Sometimes I had no borax dissolved at hand.
So I took 2 finger tips pointing finger and threw into mouth and swallowed.
You can go creative.

I have to find out if Borax is alkaline, I suspect a bit, so I will avoid taking it around or on meals.

But I try ti

live to “non-optimal dosing or timing is better than no dosing at all!”

Avoid alkaline 1/2 hr before .. 1-2hr after meals:

As I am already low in stomach acid.

(Like 1/2 of patients of any office in a city were measured if 40yrs+. Yet I get lynched at any pharmacy if I say I need a stomach acid supplement. Of ciurse they have never heard if betaine HCl+ let alone have it available for reasonable price. It would lay dry 1/3 of “health” industry… :)

See eg. PantryPharmacy.com “The mother of all problems”:

https://pantrypharmacy.com/2018/12/18/the-mother-of-all-problems/


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Posted by Andi Hofman (Gernany) on 10/22/2025

I regularly take borax 0.6g.

As borax organises in strange ways a bit like a polymer, it is able to temporarily grab onto all kinds of toxins depending where they stand in periodic system. Honest science would measure that as a matrix for the whole periodic table and do in vivo measurements, too, trying to determine the complexes actually getting excreted by urine or bile.

And since we live in an intoxicated world, taking more of what we need is one option, so (essential) eg minerals Mg K (Ca, cheese), also Zn Fe B Se Cu Mn Mo Co S SiO2 (natural nano, not produced under size-controlling industrial excipients where it is suddenly cancerous immune disruptive..) as trace minerals — as pure or pureified (from toxins mentioned) as it gets.

I also read that borax can lower efficacy of availability or even the direct levels of iodine, though all AI answers deny that vigorously. I once had a source telling why and how and lost it.
Perhaps read Boron - a potential goiterogen?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28673593/

Yet it just means we ALSO have to take some iodine in adequate dosing, and this may be (in intoxicated times:) quite some more than WHO allots us in their (corrupted dis-) grace.

So I want to take as a male

0.6g borax and

1 drop 4% Lugol‘s

Why Lugol‘s? I was told many tissues also need elemental Iodine I2. Some only ionic form, some both.

Dosing of that in wiki is reported quite distorted. But it is easy: As 5% Lugol‘s contains 5% g/g I2 elemental iodine PLUS 10% g/g KI, potassium iodide, having 127g/mol/166g/mol iodine, so 76.5% I per KI, in classic Lugol‘s preparation instruction by WEIGHT proportion g/g the total iodine content (elemental plus ionic) is :

12.6% g/g, and as density is

1.12g/ml this equals to the concentration in mass/volume definition of

14.1% g/ml.

This leads us to a hefty

7.1mg total iodine per DROP of 5% Lugol‘s (if it really has 0.05ml :). Inmeasured 50 drops with a fine scale, and it adds up.

(Newer recipes just do 5% g/ml I2 and 10% g/ml KI, without telling they deviate from Mr. Lugol‘s preparation instruction to add 5g I2 + 5g KI + 85g water, but you catch them by measuring density so eg a 20ml syringe on a fine scale tara before filling and just filling till 20ml without letting aur out that stems from nizzle and syringe, using a scale with 1/100 g resolution will yield enough precision to tell „the mini fraud“.:)

As a bottom line I want to repeat the question:

what available and cheap sources of trace minerals do we have that do not include all the stuff we are intoxicated with like Flouride (not preventing caries, to some papers this is done by good mineral status and some hygiene and good biome in mouth, meaning good „source“ biome in LI), but found F is dysbiotic and pro-ibflammatiry, enhancing paradentosis: ask people what the main cause of loss of a tooth is nowadays??? And F just like spike and glyphosate subtly paralyses the limbic system, brings down energy, will, empathy intuition, self healing, hormone regulation, and so on. WHO could want this… :)

Mercury AND Lead : potentiate their toxicity. WHICH static upper value in drinking water and food represents that (it is a rhetoric question:)

Gadolinium (so contrast agent imaging should be accompanied by a chelation therapy the insurance had to pay as not doing that is medical misconduct for the non-neglicble part of vulnerables drifting into MCAS / metabolic states by one shot. Why that happens in some would be interesting and how to prevent that? Would probably prevent severe CoV lyme EBV Aids etc as well and be a good cancer prevention, as all theses states look the same and react to quite the same set of interventions viewed from the perspective of immune regulation “from some distance”.

Bromium

Strontium (in excess)

Nano-Plastic and smaller (oligomers, broken up polymers) we CREATE by disinfecting water with CIO2 (that us drilling holes into plastic matrix, the air force of the two, as it has a gas pressure) and HClO (infantry, widening the channels), puncturing pipes even 1cm wall thickness in 30yrs at 10-15°C (higher : faster!) by corrosion. Producing bad taste of water by oligomers of HDPE and added anti-oxidants (polyphenols).
Btw.: We also produce nanoplastic by brushing teeth with nylon or let alone teflon (electric brushes) and an abrasive, why not using swine bristles as of old? Very durable, I use one with beech wood handle for 6mo now and prevent bacterial decomposition of wood or bristles by spraying in isopropyl alcohol 100% to displace water also and gently drying after use on towel and putting on a LED night light for some warmths to dry.

Also we produce nanoplastic by impregnating cotton against shear torsion called fibre stabiliser, which is a plastic enamel coating every fibre from insides and most often not given off in the label of ingredients. It gets worn to nano dust in washing machine so most lands in sea as it can't be filtered by current sewage treatment plants and won't settle in rivera, 30,000t/yr, and concentrates in filter of tumble dryer: don't inhale dusty air when opening it and cleaning the filter. Wash hands before eating.

So these are the ones I found, add glyphosate and spike both catalytically disrupting hexagonal structure of water, thus depleting the Exclusion Zone EZ every cell, and for red blood cells, as we know, this leads to rolls and heaps producing micro blood clots, that we can not detect by d-Dimer test, only in tissue under microscope OR in eye background imaging: the only capillary we have direct access by optics. If only some capillaries siddenly get clogged there, younhsve to get your blood flowing by drinking structured water, and as emergency measure, CIO2 (aq) 0.3% 1-70ml per day distributed over the day in 1-2L water restores the EZ potential in a few hours throughout the body, alas without restoring the structuring of cellular water (80% in body‘s water should be structured, btw.. Search for COMUSAV if you want to talk to one of 2000 ohysicians that practised thst by infision if 10ml CDS in 500ml salt solution (ringer is not the best if suffering from electrolyte dysbalance anyways, so I said the neutral word „salt“, have find something better and cheap and available then NaCl 0.9%; as ClO2 makes any solution self-sterilising, it may not be that hard toncome up with a solution (of salts closer to normal plasma)). If that structured water % goes down, normally we die. This is why some call this „Energy of Life. I always viewed that with the physicists scepticism - or ignorance, as now Insee at least it is both indicator and therapy option. ))

GO and rGO (MMS2 so Ca(ClO2) some 100-400mg powder with baking soda 1/4tsp to prevent Cl2, on empty stomach) could decompose in vivo to one paper) and Aluminium (detox by silicade water to Denis N. Crouse or Magnesium Maleate) is another (anti-neurodegerative disease) toxins topic. :)


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Posted by neco (Austria) on 10/15/2025

Hallo am besten 1/2 Teelöffel Morgens 1/2 Teelöffel Abends wenig bis keine nebenwirkungen....

Hello, it's best to take 1/2 teaspoon in the morning and 1/2 teaspoon in the evening. Little to no side effects....

EC: Ted's dosage, followed by thousands on Earth Clinic for over twenty years, is 1/4 teaspoon max of borax dissolved in a liter of water sipped throughout the day, 5 days on and 2 days off.


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Posted by Art (California) on 10/15/2025 2891 posts

Hi Gabriel,

I wouldn't take a teaspoon of Borax powder as some people have reported digestive issues even at the lower dose.

Art


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Posted by Gabriel (Nj) on 10/15/2025

Stopping all carbs is not healthy and shuts down your metabolism.. the key to a good figure is not starvation, it's eating 2000 calories, get your carbs in, your body needs them. Build muscle mass, 2 meals a day + snacks if you please ... your mood will improve with carbs


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Posted by Gabriel (Passaic) on 10/15/2025

So we can take a whole teaspoon? Everyone keeps saying 1/8th or 1/4


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Posted by Kathy Cave (NJ) on 10/05/2025

Can you tell me what you did with borax on scalp / hair for hair loss.
thank you


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Posted by neco (Austria) on 09/08/2025

Hallo MMG

Wissen sie für einen studie brauchts geld und dann wieder Gewinne. Niemand hatte enteresse daran billige und nicht Patentierbare produkt zu investieren.Pharma endüstri am wenigsten enterese dafür. Dieser daten beruht auf Leute die Borax erfahrung gemacht und geheilt haben.Glauben oder lassen sie einfach.... Oder studie bei PupMed lesen. Danke

Hello MMG

You know, a study requires money and then profits. Nobody had any interest in investing in a cheap, unpatentable product. Pharmaceutical manufacturers are least interested in it. This data is based on people who have experienced borax and have been cured. Believe it or just leave it... Or read the study on PubMed. Thanks.


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Posted by MMG (Norway) on 09/07/2025

@Neco

About the:"For cancer, tumors, viruses, coronavirus, etc. For severe, chronic illnesses such as epidemics, prostate diseases, joint disorders, osteoporosis, scoliosis, arthritis, epilepsy, thyroid disease, infertility, hormonal disorders, cardiovascular and circulatory system diseases, genetic diseases, autoimmune diseases, kidney diseases, etc." are there any studies about this claim? =)


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Posted by manfred (illinois) on 08/01/2025

I just found this site. very interesting. my brother has bad Reum. Arthritis, Started in his 30s. My dad built the house. It had a private well, with hard water. My brother bought the house from my father, never lived anywhere else. So he never had Floriated water. My great aunt (my moms, mothers, sister) Also had it from a young age. She came over from Germany in the mid 50's. So She wasn't really either.


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Posted by neco (austria) on 07/22/2025

Borax/Boric Acid Directions:
(What is it used for, How to use it.)

(The measurements/dosages given here are general recommended measurements/dosages. Users are free to use any measurement/dosage within this recommended measurement/dosage range that suits them.)

  • Dissolve half a teaspoon (1.25g) of borax or boric acid in a small amount of hot boiled water in a glass or cup.
  • If you do not have blood pressure problems, add half a teaspoon (1.25g) of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) and stir.

(Borax can also be taken without baking soda.)

(It is recommended to take Boric Acid with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda).)

For ease of use and to prevent nausea, if any: Squeeze some lemon and top it with any beverage such as water, fruit juice, mineral water, ayran, milk, molasses/honey syrup, and drink.
(It can also be mixed with honey/molasses in the same way and amount and used as a paste.)

Drink on a full stomach one or two hours after breakfast, lunch, or dinner, depending on how you use it.

For normal illnesses, diseases, preventative use, and for those just starting out.
Depending on the patient's condition:

  • half a teaspoon (1.25 g) once a day,
  • half a teaspoon (1.25 g) twice a day,
  • or one teaspoon (2.5 g) once a day.

For cancer, tumors, viruses, coronavirus, etc. For severe, chronic illnesses such as epidemics, prostate diseases, joint disorders, osteoporosis, scoliosis, arthritis, epilepsy, thyroid disease, infertility, hormonal disorders, cardiovascular and circulatory system diseases, genetic diseases, autoimmune diseases, kidney diseases, etc.
Depending on the patient's condition and constitution, between half a teaspoon (1.25 g) and one teaspoon (2.5 g) should be taken twice daily, morning and evening, at the appropriate dose.

One tablet should be taken twice daily, morning and evening.

Cream and solution forms/types are used externally, by applying externally.

Continuous use should be continued until recovery is achieved.
After recovery, use can be continued as a maintenance dose, in courses, or by taking it on certain days of the week.

  • A cure can be done by drinking for 21 days and taking a 7-day break.
  • A cure can be done by drinking for 25 days and taking a 5-day break.
  • A cure can be done by drinking for 5 days during the week and taking a 2-day break on the weekend.
  • A cure can be done by drinking for a few days a week.

If you are taking any medications, do not stop; continue using them.

May you get well soon.


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Posted by Art (California) on 07/22/2025 2891 posts

Hi Andrea,

The borax should be sipped throughout the day. Here is a link to Earth Clinics(EC) page specifically for borax and arthritis that should answer any questions you may have about using borax for arthritis:

https://www.earthclinic.com/borax-remedy-for-arthritis.html

Some EC members have reported that taking the dose all at once has caused stomach upset or discomfort.

Art


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Posted by Andrea (Thompson Falls, MT) on 07/21/2025

Hey! I'm starting w the 1/8 tsp in a liter of water method. I' a bit confused if I'm to drink this at once (I did today with my first meal), or if I'm to start upon rising and just drink all day. Or if I should drink on empty stomach. I'm basically reading people's testimonials and getting confused! Thank you!!


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Posted by Renee (Roswell, GA) on 06/08/2025

It sounds like it could be a combination of detox and die off. Borax kills Candida and die off can be brutal. Possibility die off from parasites as well. You might want to google Borax and Parasites to see if there is a link.


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Posted by Sarthak (India) on 06/05/2025

Is 20 mule team borax from walmart the detergent booster?


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Posted by Pamela (OH) on 05/14/2025

How do I find your email to get more information?


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Posted by Jennifer (NC) on 05/13/2025

Calcium, calcium, and more calcium. And calcium needs cofactors - magnesium and phosphorus. Everyone needs 90 essential nutrients every day. But we also need Omegas, collagen, and other things. Email me for more information.


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Posted by Carol (Winchester ) on 03/20/2025

What happened when you stopped carbs? I don't eat carbs except on occasion. I don't eat much food at all. So far I feel great but I was wondering about what you said. Don't stop carbs


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Posted by Piet (Meijel) on 12/12/2024

In The Netherlands where I live, we have no fluor in drinking water, but the most food products you buy in the supermarkt they are poisoned so you get this " disease" for free!


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Posted by Dano (North Carolina) on 09/02/2024

This is incorrect. RO water is not pH 4. It averages around 6-6.5.


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Posted by virginia (Windcrest Tx) on 09/01/2024

RO water is usually PH. 4 which is acid. Water should be Ph 7 or higher for health benefits.


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Posted by Cindy (Illinois, USA) on 05/27/2024 563 posts

I know, right? You wake up in the middle of the night with a toothache or the kid wake up with an earache, "Who ya gonna call?" - EARTH CLINIC! WE ain't afraid of no tooth/earache!

Cuts down the stress of such situations by about 90%!


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Posted by Michelle (Australia ) on 05/26/2024
★★★★★

Hello earth clinic family, I just wanted to share my gratitude to you all. You have provided me with so much knowledge and inspiration throughout the last 4 years. I've just started on the borax protocol for women for arthritis and inflammation. I will share my progress in a few months. Much love and blessings Sincerely Michelle.

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Posted by Nika (Serbia) on 05/22/2024

Hi, you must use him whit protocol, you must start whit lower dose for ex 10mg or 6mg in day for two week, than 2 wk 20mg, one month 30mg, 2 w 40mg, one month 50 mg ..., 1/8 - then ...... 5 days use -2 days pausa (not everyone have pausa all the time but you must have how I see) Because of detox symptoms, and not so fast on high doses, but slow, and use him in morning in water after that pause for one our, becouse he is alkaline, not whit food, and have light dinner not meat (! ), And you must use some good apsorable Mg whit no poison, ect MG bosglicinate, MG taurate, MG treonate, MG citrate, MG malate, no others, because B push in bones MG so you must use him, also some phosphore in food, that is that. You can see in sercher in group Diatomaceus earth maby there is some info. Slow, and if you have detox that stop for 2 days, a lot of water and use again in slower doses, then after some time slow up doses. Bigger doses fast can crush stones in kidneys and is not good for kidneys fast. If BX does not fit for you, just use some organic boron supplements, and do some anti-parasitic programe by drHulda Clark, nature program whit 3 herbs, wormwood must be in powder here, to kill parasites, becouse they can make arthritis also.


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Posted by Dianne (Manitoba Canada) on 05/21/2024

Hi Pam, so happy to hear of your success. My suggestion would be to add it to 4+ cups of water and sip on it during the day. The body does all its repairing and night and the Borax may be interfering. Follow what they suggest 7 days on 2 days off. Sending you love and light.

Dianne.


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Posted by Marian (TAS) on 05/14/2024

This is a bit late, but I noticed you said you were taking your borax in a daily capsule. If it was dispersed in water and sipped over a longer period of time during the day, it may not have the unwanted effects.


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Posted by Polly (Nashville TN) on 04/26/2024

Don't know if u'll see this- urs is an old post. Possible reason for your reactions: If you used Borax from the grocery store, it could have contaminants/dirt because it's not food grade. Because it's sold as a laundry booster, sanitary conditions aren't very scrutinized. You could try a food grade brand like: Https://pforlife.com/borax-pure-usp-nf-sodium-borate-10-mol-mineral-powder.html Good luck!! God Bless! PB


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Posted by June (ID) on 04/24/2024

Do you take the magnesium with the borax?


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Posted by Ines (Buenos Aires) on 04/08/2024

Pam, first of all, I like to recommend never to fear anything. Trust GOD and be free of that feeling that can only make things worse for you. Second, I believe that your body needs more time to take use to this wonderful medicine. My recommendation is that you take it for three days straight, and stop for taking it for too. Then three days again, and stop another too. Do this for a couple of months and see how your body reacts. After a while, you might want to take it for four days and two days break, then 6 days and two days break and so on until your body absorbs it without causing any side effects.
GOD BLESS!


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Posted by Normal Winter (Alberta, Canada) on 03/06/2024
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Borax for arthritis:

I have been taking about 1/16 tsp of borax, Celtic salt and baking soda for about 2 weeks. Today I woke up with very sore thigh muscles. Would this be a side effect of the borax? Otherwise I feel great. I may not be drinking enough water. I should add that I am 83 years old.


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Posted by Jacqueline (Uk) on 02/10/2024

I have only just seen your post about feeling worse on Borax I think your symptoms are a detox reaction. I also use borax and drink a lot of vitamin c water, Barley green juice every day to help with this I also drink 6 to 8 large glasses of filtered water a day This will help your body to release the toxins.


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Posted by DANIEL G. (CALIFORNIA) on 02/05/2024
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FLORIDATED WATER the fluoride they are putting in our water is a toxic chemical version of fluoride that comes for nuclear power plants

fluoride in our water toothpaste s all toxic poison

Borax removes this toxin from the body

google it -- fluoridated water comes from a fluoride that is a toxic chemical that comes from all the nuclear power plants


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Posted by Daniel H (CALIFORNIA ) on 02/05/2024
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Herbs and Supplements for anemia:

  • Astragalus.
  • Copper.
  • Dong Quai.
  • Iron.
  • Spirulina.
  • Stinging Nettle.
  • Vitamin B12 (Cobalamin)
  • Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)


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Posted by Daniel G. (CALIFORNIA ) on 02/05/2024

THANKYOU I just started using this stuff and it has been a couple days and already noticed it is helping me.


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Posted by Art (California) on 01/19/2024 2891 posts

Hi Petter,

That can work for some people, but it won't work for everyone because that is a relatively concentrated amount in a relatively short period of time. For people who have gastrointestinal sensitivity to borax it may be too much. Borax is a high pH product and that can be irritating for some people as has been reported on EC before. If you are sensitive to borax, diluting in a quart of water or more and sipping throughout the day can be the difference between being able to use borax or not being able to use borax if you take it in a more concentrated solution such as the cup of coffee you mentioned. The full quart dilution is essentially a timed release solution that will help to maintain a steady state of borax in your body, which is likely to be a more effective approach when first starting borax to try and achieve optimal effect.

For me, I would rather be able to take borax than not because it has been life changing for me.

Art


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Posted by Petter (chicago) on 01/18/2024

Attn: ART

Art, what is your opinion taking Borax with coffee versus thru out the day? Does your body able to benefit 1/8 tsp all at one time? Is is very convenient.

I put 1/8th teaspoon

borax in my coffee at least 5 times a week.


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Posted by RSW (OH) on 01/18/2024

I woke up with body-wide rheumatitis a few years ago, and we have had a reverse osmosis drinking water system in our house for a decade, or longer. The only water we drink is RO water, although the water in our showers and baths is not RO water. I have no idea why I got this, but I don't think it is because of our drinking water.


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Posted by chickenpatti13 (U S) on 01/18/2024
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Editor's Choice

I started taking Borax to remove the fluoride from my bones more than 10 years ago. At that time, I was having to get pain shots almost monthly so I could walk due to rheumatoid arthritis.After starting Borax, I didn't notice any changes right away but I quit taking it after a couple of months because I ran out of bottled water. Within 2 weeks in July, I woke up, could hardly move&was so sore&stiff&in pain. As a former nurse, I started looking at what changed&I kept coming back to the Borax. After a little more research, I learned Borax was an old time arthritis treatment.I started taking it again&went back to no pain or stiffness in my bones&continue to this day. I put 1/8th teaspoon in my coffee at least 5 times a week. People have seen me before&after Borax&I tell them what I do&I get crazy looks.No one else will try it but I digress.While I'm still chasing chickens&climbing into tree stands, they can barely get off their couch.The best part about Borax-relief from arthritis symptoms, no more pain shots & no side effects like many arthritis medications. My doctor is amazed because she thought I'd be in a wheelchair by now. I'm almost 60 y o&I'm not going to let arthritis ruin the rest of my life. My question is-is arthritis today a real disease or is it consequences of drinking fluoridated water?

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Posted by Art (California) on 01/17/2024 2891 posts

Hi Pamela,

The sister of my friend came back for a visit around Thanksgiving and she told me that she is pain free now from the arthritis that she felt would keep her from ever visiting her sister again. She told me she is continuing to take her borax water for the other benefits that it has shown in other people.

As to her sister, my friend, she won't know anything until this coming summer at the earliest when her doctor may likely test her to see if her osteoporosis has improved or not. Her doctor is still nagging her to take the self injections, but she has told her doctor, the only way she will take the injections is if she can stop by the doctor's office and have a nurse do the injections for her. Her doctor flatly told her no!

Art


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Posted by Pamela (Boynton Beach, FL ) on 01/16/2024

Any updates?


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Posted by Lynette (Australia ) on 11/26/2023

Can you tell me what sort of Borax you use in Australia please.


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Posted by Art (California) on 11/18/2023 2891 posts
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A friend's sister from Texas was out visiting her sister near me about 8 months ago and she was telling me that she thought this would be her last time coming to visit her sister because her arthritis hurt so much that the travel by plane to visit her sister was really difficult and painful because of her arthritis. I suggested that she might give some consideration to borax, but she seemed really reluctant at first so I told her that I have used borax to keep my arthritis in remission for about 15 years now. She told me she would try it because the pain was really getting unbearable. By the time she went home to Texas, she had started taking borax water at 1/8th teaspoon per day on the weekdays with weekends off.

I picked her up at the local airport last week to take her to my friend's house. I told her that I thought she wasn't going to visit her sister any more because of her arthritis and she said that was her plan, but since being on borax for about a month or so, she no longer has any arthritis pain, so she can now come visit her sister regularly again, thanks to borax! She told me she still takes it and has recommended it to her friend's mother in Texas because it has worked so well for her.

Art


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Posted by Jace (Sedona, Arizona) on 10/22/2023

1/8 of an teaspoon of borax is a huge amount! Now you may get away with that and I see that formula on the internet consistently. 1/8 of a teaspoon for females, daily, in a liter of water, sipped throughout the day. A quarter teaspoon for males. But the original formula, is quite different and vastly and significantly lower in dosage, than this new formula! The original formula by the man who pioneered it, was to take one rounded teaspoon of Borax and put it in one liter of water. Then start out slowly with one teaspoon, of this solution, that you just made in a 1 liter bottle (1 Liter, for all of us Americans, is about four and a quarter cups of water) And mix it with your favorite juice or drink it straight and chase it with something. Do that once in the morning with a meal or drink and if that doesn't upset your stomach do it again in the evening. For aggravated conditions of disease, like arthritis, do this three times a day. Using that original formula, you can see where the math wouldn't add up, if you were to take anywhere from 1/8 reason, to a 1/4 of a teaspoon, per day or twice a day!


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Posted by Michelle (Crosby, tx) on 10/17/2023

Join Diatomaceous Earth, and Human Parasite Support groups on Facebook. Borax and DE are known parasite killers and these groups are very informative. It sounds like this could've been the cause of your reaction. You can start taking a binder like activated charcoal to help prevent and eliminate side effects of the chemicals that parasites release when they die.


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Posted by Jayna D. (Orange County, CA) on 09/26/2023

I take boron because it is great for our bones and rids body of radiation. Swanson Vitamins has reasonable capsules.


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Posted by Kimberly (Michigan) on 09/22/2023

If you cannot tolerate Borax go to your local health food store & purchase Boron, 3mg capsules, works very well for my arthritis pain.


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Posted by Mark (NC) on 09/20/2023

Do not take borax at bedtime on an empty stomach! Take right after breakfast with food, preferably with some carbs. If 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of water a day bothers you start with a smaller amount 1/16 teaspoon or less and work the dosage up to 1/4. Still some people may not be able to tolerate any borax.


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Posted by Connie (Minnesota) on 09/18/2023

In your 1st paragraph you say '...in a capsule'. Why not try like Ted prescribes 1/8 tsp dissolve in 1 liter water which is an ounce more than a quart I believe. Anyway, drink thru out the day & after that just drink regular water. It doesn't taste great but better than drugs they prescribe for Arthur, Haha


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Posted by Brad (California) on 09/07/2023

You are obviously taking too much. I am no expert but if I was you, I would try half the dose and see how that goes. You have already probably figured that out. Good luck.


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Posted by Kim (Westminster, MD) on 09/06/2023

What kind of arthritis?


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Posted by Rita.Brightly (California) on 08/30/2023

Maybe topical would be better? I saw the recipe where borax is mixed with water, kept in a bottle. You apply it where sore. Dry it a little, then apply DMSO over it.


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Posted by Gary (Kitchener On) on 08/30/2023
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Hi Mark

Just reading your post. Do you know that men take 1/4 teaspoon and Women take 1/8 teaspoon. I have been taking Borax for 3 plus years, stopping weekends and starting over on Mondays like you are. I am 72 years old and no joint pain.

All the best

Gary


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Posted by Isabel (AZ) on 08/29/2023

Hi Pam. I read that taking Borax in a capsule is hard on your kidneys and should be taken dissolved in water.


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Posted by PT (AL) on 08/28/2023

It could be the magnesium that is making you sleepy if you are taking it during the day.


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Posted by Kev (Australia ) on 08/28/2023

Hi ... can I assume the same result would be achieved by using a Boron supplement?

Can I also assume the driver to use Borax is the primary costs?

Borax is Boron (12% ) + sodium + oxygen, how do you compensate for the sodium? I'm thinking it would make my lower legs hold fluid ...

Thank you and sorry in advance for stupid questions ..


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Posted by Deirdre (Earth Clinic) on 08/28/2023

If the original poster does not reply, please see the post under the table of contents titled "Bald Spots" on the borax page. The below link will work with desktop computers but not mobile (sorry). https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax2.html#bald


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Posted by Adrienne (FL) on 08/28/2023

How did you use it? I have hair loss from Long Covid.

Adrienne!!!


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Posted by Bea (Calgary) on 08/28/2023

Hi! How did you use it on your hair?


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Posted by Mark (Wilmington, NC ) on 08/27/2023
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Follow-up from my 1st post 3/19/23. Today is 8/27/23, and I wanted to give a follow-up report.

I'm still taking the borax, I'm now taking 1/8 teaspoon a day, Mon-Fri, and none on weekends. I'm still pain free, no arthritis, no sciatic nerve pain in back and legs, and no carpet tunnel. I initially felt a surge of energy and well-being, but that reduced after about a month of taking borax. Although I was basically pain free, I started to have less energy like I had before taking borax. But I tried changing my diet, and so far I've felt better and have more energy. I've gone basically (added)sugar-free, wheat-free and corn -free, and I definitely feel better with more energy!!! I still eat some potatoes, some rice, fruit, but I try to eat half the portions I used to, and this has helped my energy a lot!!! I've cut out sweets, candy, cakes, cookies, pies, ice cream, cereals, milk, (everything I love! ). I've gone from 193lbs to 177. If you have low energy, you will know in 2 weeks if this diet change works! Do not try to go carb-free!!! It will ruin your metabolism like it did mine years ago!


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Posted by Karen (Red Rock, Arizona) on 08/23/2023
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I would lessen the amount to half... Start low then work up slowly. I'm a believer in borax. I used it in my hair when it began to fall out dramatically after I got covid. In one week's use, it reversed my hair problem.... Yet I did get some hives and was uncomfortable.


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Posted by Art (California) on 08/20/2023 2891 posts

Pam,

Some people do not tolerate borax and you appear to be in that group and should stop borax altogether.

An alternative to consider is boron. Sometimes when people don't tolerate borax, they are able to take boron which is available in capsules from online supplement suppliers. Here is a typical product :

https://www.amazon.com/Nutricost-Capsules-Vegetarian-Gluten-Non-GMO/dp/B0BBY9TXSB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=27SZC14HWTQTK&keywords=boron+20+mg&qid=1692592244&s=hpc&sprefix=boron+20+mg,hpc,145&sr=1-1

The originator of using borax for arthritis, Dr. Rex Newnham, found that using boron also worked well for arthritis and osteoporosis. You will have to find the dose that works for you. The following article suggests that 10 mg per day could be sufficient for arthritis and that might be a good place to start :

https://assureasmile.com/nutrition-2/preventing-arthritis-pain-with-boron/

By comparison, the 1/8th teaspoon of borax you were taking contained approximately 55 mg of boron.

Art


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Posted by antoine (london) on 08/20/2023

Hi Deirdre,

Obviously the borax you use works. Would you be kind enough to post the link from where you bought the borax?

I believe that the source of borax matter and the people who report that it does not work for them have a low quality borax source.

Thank you

EC: Hi Antoine,

I use 20 Mule Team borax found in the laundry section of a local grocery store. Not available in the UK unless you import it from eBay.


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Posted by Pam (Phenix City Alabama ) on 08/19/2023
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Hi, I started taking an 1/8 tsp in a capsule about six weeks ago. After 8 straight days, my palms started itching. So I stopped taking it for about a week, then started back taking it every other day for 2 weeks. At the end of the 2 weeks I started taking it again every day hoping my body would have gotten used to it. After a week and a half of taking it every day, I woke up (I take it at night before bed) and began to feel stomach cramps followed closely by terrible diarrhea, feeling nauseous, itching palms and feet, feeling faint, and I broke out in a sweat and got hives and whelps all over my body and face! Even my eyes were red and bloodshot! I was alone at home, so it was scary. I really don't want to stop taking it because for the first time in years I have had no arthritis pain! But now I am afraid to continue taking it. Should I stop all together? Take less than the 1/8 tsp per day? Take it every other day? Please help!

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Posted by Deirdre (VA) on 08/18/2023

Hi Tricia,

I slacked off on adding the trace mineral drops after a while, but here is the one I used: https://www.amazon.com/Trace-Minerals-Research-Concentrace-Mineral/dp/B005BP5UCM/

Thankfully, borax has continued to work incredibly well. I can still bend my thumbs without any issues. Two days ago, my previously bad thumb (the one that I couldn't bend over a year ago) was hit very hard during karate training and hurt like heck, but I went home and took a pinch of borax right away. Two days later, I can't tell it was hit. The soreness is completely gone. Amazing mineral!


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Posted by Tricia (Little Elm, tx ) on 08/18/2023

If you don't mind me asking what trace minerals are you adding to your borax water?


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Posted by Marion (Scotland ) on 08/13/2023
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I too experienced flue, fever symptoms but after speaking with some people I now believe that these symptoms are some of the ways that your body gets toxins out. Boron helps to get rid of toxins / bad bacteria that cause inflammation which can result in arthritic and other diseases. I have no pain after taking borax. I dilute 1 rounded tsp in a litre of filtered water which I store in the fridge in a glass jar. I then take two tsps of this in a small glass of water 2x a day, usually 4 days on and 4 days off. It also helped me with candida.


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Posted by King (Perth Australia) on 08/12/2023
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I have been on borax, a quarter of a teaspoon and a teaspoon of MSM for two months. Absolutely no arthritic pain anywhere. I thought I was heading for a wheelchair but now I'm out and about and loving life. The freedom from pain is unbelievable if you've heard about it and you're teetering on the edge whether to try it, I will tell you jump right in its marvellous all the best 🌸

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Posted by Aja (NZ) on 08/10/2023

I'm getting it from an online garden place. Borax from the same place.


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Posted by Prioris (ME) on 07/18/2023

recommended dose is

1/8 tsp for women

1/4 tsp for men

it is synergistic with magnesium


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Posted by Sherre (Lebanon Mo ) on 07/18/2023

How much borax do you take daily?


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Posted by Art (California) on 07/17/2023 2891 posts
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The sister of a friend of mine was visiting from Texas and her arthritis was really bothering her. I discussed borax water with her and after a little back and forth with her, she decided to give it a try. At two weeks in she said she could already feel an improvement and even more at three weeks in. She flew home at that point and said she would update me in a few months to let me know how well she does using borax. She is using the 1/8th teaspoon dose in water each day of the week with weekends off.

At the same time, her sister who is my friend and has osteoporosis decided to start on a regimen I had suggested for her which included borax water also, because borax is also good for osteoporosis. Her doctor wanted her to take a drug that required her to inject herself and she refused to do it so she asked me about alternatives. I won't know her results for some time because it takes quite awhile to help osteoporosis that is as bad as hers, but I will report them when she has them.

Art

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Posted by Caroline (Port Richey, Fl) on 06/29/2023

My knee and hip arthritis went away by taking all processed foods out of my diet.


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Posted by Elizabeth (pasadena California ) on 06/19/2023

The man who has been taking for 10 years and it alleviated your pain... what amount in how much water and what is your height and weight???


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Posted by Anna (Victoria ) on 06/14/2023

I really want to try Borax. I have a container of Bare Essentials from the local supermarket. I've looked up the MSDS online for both Bare Essentials brand and borax in general and all the responses are the same. Do not invest, harmful to inhale and the foetal abnormalities warning too. Just wondering where to see the results you're referring to please.


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Posted by Art (California) on 04/06/2023 2891 posts

Liz,

Since Stopain is unavailable in Canada, and since you are treating a fairly limited area, another consideration as a topical pain reliever is Voltaren Gel. It is at least as strong as Stopain, but I rarely recommend it because if applied to larger areas, it can potentially have negative side effects. It is odorless and works quickly. It previously was only available by prescription.

It is hard on my end to know what will be readily available in other countries. Stopain is readily available here, but apparently not in Canada. Here is a link to a typical product :

https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=Voltaren+Gel&crid=3SVNVDHKJKBCD&sprefix=voltaren+gel,aps,126&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

It is worth mentioning that house brand versions of Voltaren are less expensive and just as effective. For instance Walgreens has their own version and it is less expensive and Walmart also has their version which is less expensive. The main thing is that they all have the same active ingredient, Diclofenac Sodium Gel 1%, and that is what offers effective pain relief. That one you should also be able to get at your local pharmacies.

As far as your topical reaction to Borax, it may be the concentration level. Topically in a bath is very highly diluted and would be less likely to be reactive with the skin, but your concentrated solution is just that, highly concentrated and in that case could be reactive with the skin. Also, Borax has a fairly high pH around 9.5, compared to the skin pH in the 5's and that could be another reason for your reaction.

Art


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Posted by Liz (Alberta) on 04/05/2023

Art,

Thank you for your quick response. Unfortunately, StopPain is out of stock at Amazon US and went online to Amazon in Canada, out of stock and have no indication when product will arrive. They don't carry it in Walmart.ca. I will keep looking for it online.

I have read all your posts on this site and feel that you are quite knowledgeable. I'm wondering why I reacted to the borax externally when I have been drinking it and quite often bathing with it with Epsom
salts for the past year without any effects.

I'm not taking any drugs to dull the pain. Today used Aloe vera plant gel and rubbed into pain spots. Helped for 1/2 hour. Going to see Dr. tomorrow for what other tests to see what's going on with my right side. And buy caster oil and use that combination with DSMO and see if it helps. Thanks for all your help.


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Posted by Art (California) on 04/05/2023 2891 posts

Liz,

You might try a topical over the counter pain reliever that I have found to be fairly effective for pain relief. It is called Stopain and comes in a roll on bottle. Here is a link to it :

https://www.amazon.com/Stopain-Extra-Strength-Roll-Triple/dp/B000GG12IM/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HKBI0F64YUWF&keywords=Stopain&qid=1680713981&sprefix=stopain,aps,142&sr=8-1&th=1

It is also available at Walmart if you have one near you.

Art


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Posted by Liz (Alberta) on 04/04/2023

I mix up a 1teaspoon of borax into a 1 lite of distilled water, This is my concentrate and from this bottle, I take I teaspoon of the mixture into a smoothie every second day for the past year. I don't know if it helped because I had no arthritis and thought at 77 would help for maintenance. When I saw the recipe for applying it externally, with DMSO, I printed and stuck on my fridge and quit taking it internally, Then I had a fall in the gym end of January to my right side and lower backside that had me pretty immobile for 2 weeks to get dressed and help to get ex-rays. No fractures, but healing slowly, It's now been 10 weeks and still have pain in the side and backside. This past week, I got DMSO and read all about and followed the receipe to the letter and applied to my side and lower back., used 2 drops. Half an hour later, the pain was more intense and never let up until bed, Next day, tried again with 3 drops and still in pain and now today I am in worse pain in my side, So I am ready to give up and wondering what I am doing wrong or what does a few drops mean for DMSO. I have a soft tissue pain in my side, Walking with cane. Any suggestions, maybe try castor oil with DMSO? Thank you,


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Posted by Sam (Miami ) on 04/04/2023

Your body could be intentionally lowering your iron. Don't mess with it without knowing more. Find the Anemia of chronic disease article.


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Posted by san diego girl (San Diego) on 04/01/2023

According to The Copper Revolution most people who are "anemic" are really deficient in copper and the copper/iron balance is upset. Copper supplements are easy to find. It is not toxic. My husband and I each take 4-6 mg per day.


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Posted by Pam (New Zealand) on 04/01/2023

We are banned from buying DMSO here in so-called democratic, free New Zealand.

Vets can use it and you can buy that quality for your farm animals or race horses.

BUT people NO.

Not even if it is just an ingredient in the product as on Amazon.


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Posted by Kathy (Dewey, AZ) on 04/01/2023

Green drinks are good for you but not every day. A couple of times a week tops. It's very chelating. It's probably pulling out her nutrients.


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Posted by Mark (Wilmington, NC) on 03/19/2023
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Editor's Choice

Borax cured my arthritis like a miracle in 6 wks, more energy!!!

I have never left a health review before, but this seems like a miracle!!! I saw an article about borax on Facebook about 6 weeks ago and said "l have nothing to lose". I'm 64 and have been increasingly hurting from arthritis primarily muscle aches and inflammation for the past 10 years.

About a year and a half ago I developed sciatic nerve pain in both legs from (stupidly) replacing a bathroom floor, took me 2 weeks on my hands and knees - what a mistake!!! After many Chiropractic treatments I got some relief but not completely, last treatment was November 2022. After seeing the FB article, I did more research and found this website. I read the reviews on here about 6 weeks ago and decided to try the "20 Mule Team Borax" from Walmart using the quarter teaspoon daily dosage. I did this for about a week but then started to feel feverish so I stopped. After about a week I resumed taking borax but cut back to about 1/64th teaspoon, the amount from just licking my finger tip and touching the borax powder. I've been doing this every other day now for about 2 weeks. I noticed I was feeling better and better, but today I feel amazing!!!! I haven't felt rhis good in YEARS!!! I walked 2 miles today (I haven't walked that far in many years!!! ), then played basketball with my 11yo grandson, all with NO PAIN!!! I am not lying!!! Typically I would be aching like crazy and have to take lots of NSAIDS but I feel great!!! This is a miracle and this is why I'm leaving this review!!! Thank You Jesus!!! I will continue this small every other day dosage. If something changes I will repost the updated review.

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Posted by Jim (Fort Smith ) on 02/24/2023

Thanks for sharing. How long is the solution in the bottle good for?


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Posted by Rick D (Jacksonville Florida) on 02/19/2023

Maybe you aren't supposed to take it undiluted.


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Posted by Capitanissa (Greece) on 02/13/2023

I have been thinking the same, I will start adding Borax to my bath.

Thank you.


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Posted by Josephine (Bc Canada ) on 02/11/2023

Lugols iodine


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Posted by Judy (York, PA) on 01/16/2023

Check the toxicity level chart of elements and compounds. You will see that the toxicity level of borax is identical to table salt.


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Posted by Alexis (FL) on 01/11/2023

Tell her to look up oxalates and anemia. It's the oxalates in the green drinks that hinder absorption of iron.


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Posted by Krysia (IL) on 12/16/2022

That's great. Thanks for sharing.


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Posted by ElaineF (New Brighton, MN) on 12/16/2022

My husband takes Clear Sinus and Ear and has good results when using it.


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Posted by ElaineF (New Brighton, MN) on 12/16/2022

Maria,

I would only use the 20 Mule Team borax. It is basically boron, which is a supplement you can easily purchase. So many have had success with it and that's good enough for me!


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Posted by ElaineF (New Brighton, MN) on 12/16/2022

Wendy,

Check out this information, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34677681/ This article, in my opinion, states that boron, which is what borax is, is very beneficial for kidney transplant patients. If you are allowed to take anti rejection drugs and antibiotics, boron, as a natural supplement, should be as safe or safer than those toxic Pharma drugs.


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Posted by Carol (Dewey AZ) on 12/14/2022

Is Borax and DE safe to take if I have a joint replacement? Thank you.


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Posted by Yad (Sunny Somewhere) on 11/30/2022 15 posts

I use charcoal made from organic bamboo from https://healthfoodthailand.com/en/charcoal-powder-bamboo-100-gram.html


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Posted by Deirdre (Asheville) on 11/27/2022

Hi Kathleen,

I used Nature's Way - 560 mg per serving. I also really like the Charcoal House brand. They have been selling Activated Charcoal for a long time. You can find both on Amazon.


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Posted by Kathleen (Orange County, ca) on 11/26/2022

What is the strength of the charcoal and do u recommend a brand?


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Posted by Kiara (Vancouver) on 11/10/2022

Hi Claudio,

Did you try it? How is it working? Thanks!


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Posted by Deirdre (NC) on 10/25/2022

Hi Kathy,

Heiltropfen is the brand I have bought a bunch of times.

https://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Dimethyl-sulfoxide-Pharmaceutical-Heiltropfen/dp/B00ZNV5N8U?ref_=ast_sto_dp

Low odor DMSO - Dimethyl sulfoxide liquid (3.4 Oz - 100ml), Pharmaceutical grade, High purity, Heiltropfen


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Posted by Kathy (NC) on 10/23/2022

Hey which DMSO did you buy? Can you specify? There are so many, very anxious to use this remedy for me and my husband. Also do you do the lotion recipe that was referenced?


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Posted by KS (IL) on 10/11/2022

I have had good luck with this homeopathic product for my problem left ear and sinus issues, "Clear Sinus & Ear, Homeopathic" Https://www.amazon.com/Clear-Sinus-Capsules-Homeopathic-Formula/dp/B07QQVLB73 I only use them until it clears up, not all the time. I also bought ear plugs, "Mack's Ultra Soft Foam Earplugs" and use one in the left ear on windy days. Getting wind, especially cold, in that ear causes it to get stuffy again. If it's bad enough I can have some dizziness but not pain. When that happens lying on my left side for a couple of hours seems to drain the ear and stop the dizziness. Doctor didn't have any remedy for it, so I'm self medicating.


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Posted by Art (California) on 10/10/2022 2891 posts

Edy,

Thank you for the interesting insight on green drinks! I will pass the information along to my friend, but she is a true believer in her green drinks so I know it is going to be an uphill battle to get her to listen to anything not in agreement with her green drinks.

Art


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Posted by Edy (CA) on 10/10/2022

Hi Art,

I hate to say this, but I recently took a Rapid Gut Reset online course and those green juice drinks could be exacerbating the issue. I know we've been told how great they are, but if you do a bit of research they are loaded with lectins and oxalates, the oxalates are the really bad ones as they settle in the joints and can cause loads of pain. They make them to keep the bugs from eating them (smart yea?) and for the bugs it's like shards of glass, but for us our mouths and teeth are so big that we just gulp them down and the body deposits them in joints and muscles.


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Posted by Deirdre (Asheville, NC) on 09/28/2022
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I wanted to provide an update on my trigger finger, various arthritic joints, and Ted's famous borax protocol. I started the protocol in early June and have kept up with it very consistently since then. Here are my notes:

1. It took 3 weeks to get improvement in my trigger thumb, but my finger joint stiffness improved within the first week or so. Things continue to improve slowly.

2. Even though the women's dose is 1/8th teaspoon borax in 1 liter of water, the men's dosage, 1/4 teaspoon, seems to be what I need.

3. For the first 3 months, I could NOT do 5 days on and 2 days off because my thumb would start to get sore and stiff again after 1 day off the protocol. However, I am now able, in my 4th month, to take a day off here and there.

4. I use distilled water and add trace minerals to it in addition to the 1/4 teaspoon of borax.

Hope this helps. If borax isn't helping you, consider upping the dosage.
And stick with it for a while. Don't give up on it too soon.
I think the over 50 crowd (myself included) probably needs high-dose boron, quite frankly.

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Posted by CL (US) on 09/08/2022

Chamomile is believed to benefit osteoporosis even after menopause.

It may be that she is being exposed to greater fluoride levels than before, and it will simply take time for the borax to clear out the new fluoride. Perhaps her dr gave her fluoride believing it would benefit her bones.

Psych meds may contain fluoride.


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Posted by robert (PA) on 09/08/2022
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I put about 2-3 oz boraxo in my daily bathwater. The skin is an organ too so it gets absorbed that way. No ill effects...once I ran out and went without Boraxo for about a week and the pain started to come back. As soon as I started using it again the pain and stiffness went away.

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Posted by Brenda (Lexington ) on 09/04/2022

Be careful, detoxing re-releases toxins into the blood to be filtered out and passed through kidneys, liver, bladder, etc. if you don't go slow and steady it can cause poisoning side effects especially since fluoride is a neurotoxin. You don't want all of it in your bloodstream at once.


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Posted by Art (California) on 09/04/2022 2891 posts
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I had previously reported about a friend who was able to effectively mitigate her osteoarthritis by taking borax to the point of being pain free for many years. About 3 years ago, she developed anemia and her doctor was unable to determine the cause of the anemia at that time, so he told her to stop using borax in case that was the cause.

About 6 months after stopping borax, her osteoarthritis returned and quickly became much worse than ever before. She told me that if she could do it all over again, she would have never stopped taking borax, even if it were the cause of her anemia because she said she is so miserable now, she would rather have tried to deal with the anemia through natural means. It turned out that borax was not the cause of her anemia so she decided to resume using it to try and alleviate her severe osteoarthritis again. Unfortunately, borax is no longer working for that purpose for her.

She is mad at her doctor for having told her to stop taking borax, but that anger is pointless now. In the meantime I continue to have her try other remedies for her OA, but because of her advanced age (80's) and using mostly green drinks for her meals, she is unable to tolerate other remedies as they all seem to cause her severe indigestion, nausea diarrhea and vomiting, even the remedies that she had previously taken with no problems.

My take away from my friend's predicament is that if borax is working well to keep your arthritis in remission, think long and hard before you decide to stop it for any reason. This also adds further confirmation to the idea that borax does not work for everybody all of the time, as I have previously seen in other friends.

Art

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Posted by Deirdre (NC) on 08/31/2022

Hi Elaine, borax may be what is causing it, BUT right now, trees and flowers are releasing a lot of pollen, and that could aggravate any existing sinus/ear/eye condition. If this is the case, an air filter inside will help. You can check the pollen count in your area at weather.com.

I would go with pollen first before borax as the cause... In my neighborhood, my car is covered in tree pollen every few hours!


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Posted by Elaina (Kansas City) on 08/31/2022
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

I have had congestion in one ear and sinus cavity off and on for a long while. Nothing has helped remove it. It has never been extreme or painful, more an annoyance.

I began taking Borax over a week ago primarily because of the bone and joint support it provides, but immediately noticed my lungs feeling clearer and in general, my body felt great and very responsive.

Then on day five, I noticed the congestion in my ear getting worse than it has ever been and woke the next day with it so bad, my teeth and gums on that side are extremely painful and I have a low grade fever. This has now gone one for about five days. My feeling is that it my be symptoms of the issue detoxing from my system and getting worse before better, but wanted to ask for any insight.

I've mixed two teaspoons of Borax into a liter of water and take two teaspoons of that distillation daily in water.

Thanks

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Posted by scott v (grand rapids, mi) on 08/23/2022
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I was diagnosed with arthritis in my back by a chiropractor. he said there was nothing that I could do about it. I investigated and found articles on Borax.... I started taking it every morning. it was scary at first, taking a cleaner.

on the fifth day, I got out of bed and wow! no pain! I've been taking it for 10 years, every day. no issues. Doctors and nurses are amazed when I tell them I take it daily. it works!

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Posted by Susan (Cedar Rapids IA ) on 07/24/2022

I've read that you can neutralize stomach pain received from taking borax by taking charcoal tablets. Might be worth a try--


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Posted by Wendy (Dublin, OH) on 07/16/2022

Thank you so much Art, for your very helpful and comprehensive reply!


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Posted by Art (California) on 07/16/2022 2891 posts

Wendy,

This is a complicated subject.

Judging by the available studies, which are very limited, there could be a risk for kidney issues at high enough dosing. That would tend to make me look at borax and boron as last ditch supplements for you, but you can talk to your transplant coordinator or doctor about possibly using boron at their highest allowable dose. Boron has shown anti-arthritic activity and anti-osteoporosis activity in people also. That seems like it would be a safer option than borax, but your doctor's approval would definitely be needed.

If your medical team says no to borax and boron, another consideration would be a supplement that has shown kidney protective qualities as well as a potent anti-inflammatory, anti osteoarthritis and anti-osteoporosis activities. You could consider a higher bioavailable liposome form of curcumin such as Meriva. While it is not as antiarthritic as borax, it does have anti-osteoporosis effects, it also has multiple protective effects throughout the body and your medical team may be more open to its use because of these multiple health protective activities that it has displayed in hundreds of studies. Curcumin doesn't stop osteoarthritis the way borax can, but it can significantly reduce the damaging inflammation and oxidative stress that it causes and consequently, significantly reduce joint damage, potentially making it possible for you to live with osteoarthritis indefinitely. Curcumin has shown benefits in transplant cases. Curcumin and Meriva have a very good safety profile. The downside to curcumin is it has shown reactivity with Tacrolimus, a common transplant drug.

Another option is to use higher dose lysine, vitamin C and glycine as a means to replace damaged joint material at a rate faster than the rate of joint destruction from osteoarthritis, but this is a little controversial and your medical team may not be open to this idea, but a definite consideration if they are.

Another consideration is melatonin which has a very good safety profile, may be beneficial in transplantation cases, has shown protective effects against the articular damage caused by osteoarthritis, is a potent ani inflammatory, has anti osteoporosis activity and is also protective of the kidneys while having very potent antioxidative stress qualities which seems like significant positives in your situation.

Those are the ideas that come to mind off the top of my head for your situation, Wendy. Being a transplant recipient, is a special circumstance that can make taking supplements a much more complicated proposition. In any case, you can run these ideas by your transplant team and doctor to see if they are open to any of these options.

Highly potent prescription biologics are sometimes used for osteoarthritis, but in transplant patients who are already taking drugs to lower their immune system, the biologics add to this immune lowering effect in order to reduce the osteoarthritis inflammation and damage. Consequently, the chance for infections increases, so it would be nice to avoid biologics and their associated complications. On the positive side, biologics may reduce the potential for osteoporosis.

Art


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Posted by Ann (North Carolina, USA) on 07/14/2022

You may have taken too much too quickly.


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Posted by Wendy (Dublin, OH) on 07/14/2022 32 posts

This is a question for Art.

Background: I've been diagnosed with osteopenia, & some age-related osteoarthritis, and am mostly non-symptomatic especially when I'm consistent in completely avoiding sugar, dairy, and "bad" carbs! I'm 67 and a post-kidney transplant patient. This was a pre-emptive transplant back in 2016 meaning I never had to go on dialysis. My sister donated one of her kidneys. I'm in generally very good health, and per my last yearly follow-up appt with my transplant coordinator, my blood work (kidney function, etc.) has been excellent over these past 6 years. She also stated that since I'm a perfect match with my sister (based on certain markers), I virtually would never run the risk of rejecting the new kidney, and thus slightly decreased my immunosuppressant doses.

My question: In your opinion, would it be "safe" for me to follow this Borax protocol for women? This would be the 1/8 tspn of Borax per liter of water sipped throughout the day for the recommended amount of days.

Of course I would check with my transplant coordinator first, as I've always done when wanting to take a new supplement.

Thanks for all your input to EC!


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Posted by Earth Clinic on 07/13/2022

Hi Basia,

As you may know, large amounts of borax powder (aka 20 Mule Team) taken all at once are contraindicated. Are you referring to a boron supplement? The body needs only small amounts of borax in water sipped throughout the day, not a large amount all at once which may be toxic.

Read the recipes and feedback on EC's borax page. We now have almost 20 years of feedback from readers on borax, starting with Ted's borax dosage from 2004 of 1/4 teaspoon for men and 1/8 teaspoon for women in 1 liter of water sipped throughout the day, 5 days on, 2 days off.


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Posted by Basia (Buffalo, ny) on 07/11/2022

I took a large capsule size of borax for arthritis and experienced brain fogginess and slight dizziness. I believe I have some level of fluorosis and am trying borax for the accompanying joint pain.

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Posted by Renee (Boston) on 07/07/2022

I have lost faith in doctors after having them prescribe medications that cause worse symptoms than the actual ailment. I have found tremendous amounts of help on Earth Clinic and I have been telling almost everyone I know. I wish I knew about this website years ago. Thank you Earth Clinic and all that participate. Give back, tell your story.


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Posted by LakeLady (Boston) on 07/06/2022

Thanks for your reply Renee!

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Posted by LakeLady (Boston) on 07/06/2022

Thanks for your input BevilNC! I broke my back 12 years ago and wonder if I now have arthritis or calcification; seems likely, given my age now (54). I just started using borax externally about 4 nights ago; so far I notice a little improvement in terms of less stiffness and ache. I might try taking it (20 Mule Team) internally now, after reading all these posts.



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