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Posted by Molly (Princeton, Nj) on 04/05/2018

I began again taking, in the morning, 1/8 tsp borax in 1 liter of water daily (sipped throughout day) for 5 days then 2 days off. In the first week alone it makes me very sleep around 1-3 pm that I have to take a 2 hour nap. After that I'm fine again. This is the 3rd time over 1 year I started this dose and each time it makes me sleepy so I stop taking it. Why is it making me sleepy? I'm healthy and should have few toxins in me. Thank you.

Replied by Natalia
(Mn, Usa)
04/08/2018

Although we believe ourselves to be relatively healthy in our diet and lifestyle, the bare truth is that we all carry a heavy toxic load of accumulated heavy metals - from vaccines, foods and environment, toxic iron - from 'fortified' foods = iron shavings, exposure to EMF, multiple vitamin & mineral deficiencies, unhealthy microbiomes, pathogenic microbes, parasites, and have impaired detox pathways. The reactions you are experiencing are detox issues and also point to adrenal fatigue and an overall deficiency of minerals. Maybe look toward adding a minimum of 500 mg magnesium (500 mg/100# body weight), a 72 mineral trace suppl, B vitamins, 4.5 grams/4500 mg potassium, increase your intake of salt, Iodine (Lugols or Edgar Cayce's sol.), food-sourced C (NOT as ascorbic acid), Vita D3, omega fatty acids (cod liver oil has all 5 of them), ACV or other bicarbonate (baking soda is not the best source nor necessarily advised), a diet of many-colored fresh and steamed fruits & vegies, clean proteins, non-processed oils (think raw, unfiltered coconut oil), pre- and pro-biotics, biofilm busting herbals (Lumbrokinase; even Mucinex is a known buster), drink some cleansing herbal teas, take activated charcoal or tumeric w, black pepper, 1-3 caps with water at bedtime - as a binder for the toxins, (not with suppls as this will bind them too), drink plenty of filtered water. And stay with your Borax regimen. Your body needs to heal and this can be slow and problematic for 2-3 wks or longer. Sleep is our default healing state and your body, in its innate wisdom, is telling you that down time is needed. You may need to also change the timing of your Borax/Boron intake to change the timing of your exhaustion although the afternoon exhaustion really points to adrenals. The adrenal 'cocktail' I take is the juice of two oranges, 1/2 tsp Redmond or Celtic salt, 1/2 tsp cream of tartar (yes, from the spices aisle for potassium), and 1000 mg berry-sourced Vita C; you can sub coconut or Fiji water. We need to detox when we start any healing regimen and be prepared for the inconvenience and actual pain that we may go through. Deep tissue massage is very helpful. Natural medicine has long understood the role of the skin - largest body organ - in detox and the standard medical community is now realizing the role of the integument (the tissues that connects all of our cells) in health, the treatment of cancers, etc. Alternative therapies like deep or visceral tissue massage, micro-current, acupuncture, and a host of others, are aimed at moving the lymph system that mops up the toxins once mobilized from the organs, bone, gut, and integument; in turn, the toxins are secreted by the liver and kidney IF properly bound for excretion. Lyme researchers proved that the integument under our skin is vastly populated by pathogenic biofilms, a feature of treatment-resistant Lyme complex. This is opined as the cause of skin eruptions in any healing protocol. I believe that our bodies communicate clearly and we just need to listen and give ourselves what is needed for deep healing and true health. Best to you on your journey.

Replied by Jeanne
(Colorado, Usa)
11/19/2018

I get for years from time to time an urge to take a "healing nap" at those hours. Usually just about 1/2 hour, but recently a deep healing nap was the result of my laying down with fresh reading material.

If you research a bit, Oriental medicine has that times Small intestine active time. If we have various issues to be repaired in that area, it is best done in my experience when the body simply "knock me out of the way". We are such a go-go! Society these days. Small intestine is also an area that processes various unexpected ("put on the spot") events. Just going down mid-town New York would stress my small intestine energy when I lived there. That is when my body started to take occasional, and sometimes daily, naps to compensate for it, and create 'order' while I napped.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Alexander (Washington) on 03/31/2018

I've been using two pinches of borax as a supplement everyday for nearly a year. Now I'm worried it has built up in my system and is causing skin rashes, irritated throat, slight fever etc.

I regularly drink alcohol which could have inhibited my kidney function, preventing my kidneys from flushing boron out of my system.

The amount I used daily would have been roughly 20 or 25 mg per day.

Should I have been taking two days off?

Replied by Mama To Many
(Tn)
04/02/2018

Yes, I think you should have been taking 2 days off. And if your kidney function is compromised, perhaps using much less.

That said, if kidney function is not great, the symptoms you are experiencing could be from any number of things.

Do check out kidney remedies here at EC and see what might resonate with your situation.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
04/02/2018

Borax is a mineral that we need to consume on a regular schedule. There are also other minerals it is in balance with. If they get out of balance or you get low on water in your system, the body will produce histamine as a warning shot with symptoms (rash, sore throat, ect) so you can think about what is out of balance causing symptoms. Alcohol dehydrates and depletes of minerals, like magnesium for instance. I don't drink but encourage you if you do to read more on how to re balance your systems. Blessings. Charity


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Cindy (Memphis, Tennessee) on 03/24/2018

I started the borax protocol over a week ago, using â…› teaspoon to one liter of bottled water. I am 59 years of age, and have been suffering from fibromyalgia since 1997. I am trying to ease my fibro pain. On my third day I started seeing red bumps on my arms and legs and now my face. I did one more day of borax and my reaction worsened. I have stopped using borax. I have not used borax in 4 days. I was wondering if I am allergic or is this a reaction to detoxing. I have never detoxed before. I would like to use the borax again, but I am afraid of worsening my condition. I no longer have red bumps, but now wounds. My arms and legs constantly itch like crazy. Any suggestions? Help!

Thank you, Cindy

Replied by Ian Noelle
(Franklin, Tn)
03/24/2018

I had the same problem in May 2017.

After investigating, it was a healing reaction from the borax. My rash which was located on the left leg calf area seemed to be coming from within my body whereas a poison ivy rash would sit on top of the skin. I stopped borax until my skin felt calm and then resumed it. I've had no problems since.

Replied by Cindy
(Memphis, Tennessee, Usa)
03/26/2018

Thank you Ian. I also feel my rash looks a bit like poison ivy, but I have never been allergic, so far in my life. I am waiting for the rash to heal, before starting back on the borax. I do believe that I am detoxing. I didn't realize my body was so trashed. I am now intent on cleaning up my body. I want to feel and look like thirty again. It's worth a try!!

Replied by Jeanne
(Colorado, Usa)
11/19/2018

Cindy, I am just reading Kaufman diet website, and I have also purchased 2 books by Doug Kaufman. Now any time I hear itching my mind says "Unless it is an insect bite it is likely fungus related".

Right now I am clearing out some fungal overgrowth, using various tools, and ready to add borax, so now here researching. Thanks to all posters, it is amazing to what a community can achieve.

It sounds to me that your body started to 'get rid of something' right away. That something inside that is likely causing fibro pain. If you ask yourself "I WONDER what it could be that is coming out?" and let it sit unanswered, you may get an insight in some time. Like a memory how you were stung by jellyfish, or got some paint on your body, or lived in a place with some mold infestation. I highly recommend to look up the Kauffman diet in search and read a bit. I found lot of answers to my questions there, and also some great recipes to help get the extra fungus/candida etc out of the body.

Detox happens with the change of foods as well, bit of nausea, so I have some water with a couple of slices of ginger ready, and also activated charcoal and finely ground up psyllium husk to absorb toxins when they are coming out. I would put some clay poultice on the bumps to absorb whatever is coming out of them, and when clay dries, wash it gently off. I used to it daily for various conditions. Then smear a very thin layer of coconut oil, which has antifungal properties.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Robert B. (Asheville, Nc) on 03/09/2018

I started taking boron at 1/8 teaspoon in liter of water. After about 1 week I developed a small red rash over many parts of body. I stopped and rash slightly lessened. Any suggestions?

Replied by Anon
(Usa)
03/12/2018

Sounds like herxhiemer reaction, a detox reaction. Probably you are not poisoning yourself, so don't worry. Bromide is said to cause rashes when it is detoxed. Or parasites are trying to escape the borax. Taking soothing baths or reducing the amount of borax would be the thing to do if the rash is bothersome. Or take activated charcoal or chlorella; digestive complaints (such as an overloaded elimination system from the borax clearing things out) have been known to cause skin rashes. Rashes are a fairly common detox reaction in general from what I have read. Good luck!


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Thijs (Amsterdam, The Netherlands) on 02/21/2018

I started supplementing 3 mg of boron multiple times a day with food together with iodine. Initially I was seeing many Improvements but after almost a week I started feeling worse and worse. I initially dropped the iodine because I thought the lugols was the reason for the symptoms. I developed a smashing headache on the right side of my brain. Increased anxiety, fatigue and general malaise. Pain in my neck and shoulders etc. This is when I realized the boron could be the culprint. I have a history of candida symptoms and I expected a die off. After stopping the boron the symptoms went away within 24 hours. Just saying go low and slow.

I will introduce the boron again soon and will keep the dosage low for a while. Molybdenum can help to get rid of acetydehyde from the candida die off.

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
02/21/2018

I've been reading a lot on this topic this year and boron also lowers copper. People can be toxic copper and low copper at the same time. Toxic copper is improper storage and unusable but causes symptoms of overload while the body is starved of copper for utilizing in collagen and elastin and brain health, and zinc balancing. Boron lowers msm and c. Vitamin C lowers copper also.

Replied by Natalia
(Mn Usa)
04/05/2018

In actuality, whole food Vitamin C or the fruits it is made from are the sole source for the protein-bound, bioavailable form of Copper - Ceroplasmin. NOT from ascorbic acid-sourced Vita C (from GMO corn, usually). Food sourced Vita C contains a molecule of Ceroplasmin and this, along with adequate intake of Magnesium (about 500 mg per 100# body weight; transdermal is needed relative to bowel tolerance), Boron (up to 30-80 mg daily or lower dose with 3-9 prunes daily), trace minerals (liquid suppl and or nutritional yeast), food source B vitamins (esp B12; bee pollen is a good source for the Bs), Vita D (cod liver oil), Potassium (about 4.5 grams daily for an adult), Silica (diatomaceous earth or Fiji water), Iodine (Edgar Cayce's formula or Rugol's Solution, Taurine (500-1000 mg daily), will begin to provide the body with the minerals needed to begin the road to healing.

Additionally, one must eliminate all citrates, Calcium and Iron supplements, and eating a Paleo-type diet with adequate zinc and all of the other trace minerals we need, will balance our bodies and result in a much more healthy and dis-ease resistant state. When we begin to balance, our bodies detox and we start ridding our body of stores of toxic iron. Go low and slow. Borax is an integral part of this regimen and much of it is inexpensive and diy.

For Herx, take the juice of 1 lemon in a cup of water and Alka Seltzer Gold with 8 oz water; this works in 1-3 hours AND back down on your dosing until your body is stronger. Blessings.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Schunter (Ca) on 12/30/2017

I have been taking Borax now for a little over a month. I am getting bit concerned because my bladder is really beginning to bother me, in that I feel like I have to constantly urinate (not a bladder infection I checked) and I am worried that it may be too hard on my kidneys. I have had IC in the past but it was a long time ago. Also, I have Scleroderma and my extremities are colder than usual. I'm wondering if I should just force through this because it might be a herx or whether the Borax may just be too much for my system. I would think by now this would have passed. Any advice would be appreciated.

Replied by Rosalyn
(Georgia)
01/06/2018

Mix one rounded tsp of Borax in 1 quart of water - shake til dissolved. This is your Borax concentrate. I started out putting one tsp of the concentrate in my 22 oz. glass water bottle to drink throughout the day. After about a week (b/c I had no side effects), I increased it to 2 tsps. a day. My plan is to increase to no more than 3 tsp. per day. I was told this is the same as 3 mg of boron a day, which is the recommended dose.

Replied by Anon
(Usa)
01/10/2018

Your bladder symptoms are similar to the symptoms of oxalate kidney stones. The alkalinity of borax may be loosening the crystals. Drinking raw apple cidar vinegar in water or drinking lemon juice is often helpful for kidney stones. You may find your solution in that direction.

Replied by Rskorj
(Ga)
02/17/2018

Look into other nutrients, vitamins you may need. Iodine deficiency is common and one symptom of that is cold hands and feet.

Replied by Dean
(Mw Mt)
02/21/2018

Have you looked into DMSO for your scleroderma? In the book, "DMSO The Persecuted Drug" there is some good info on using it for that disease.

Replied by Natalia
(Mn, Usa)
04/06/2018

Actually, when mixing ionic Boron at 1 tsp Borax to 1 liter of water, the resulting water contains approx 3 mg of Boron per tsp. The greatest health benefits will be experienced when also balancing all the other needed primary and trace minerals, Magnesium is key among them. It's fantastic that you are tolerating high doses of ionic Boron as doses for adults are recommended at 30-80 mg daily.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Sschulz (Ca) on 12/05/2017

I've been taking the Borax now for 4 weeks...1/8 tsp in 1 liter of water like Ted described... I built it up slowly from 1 day to 4, and at the end of last week I felt very depressed and nauseous...Took it again yesterday and the same nausea came back. I'm wondering if this is a herx or if I am allergic to the Borax or if I may have to reduce the dose...

I have scleroderma and also have Spincter of Oddi issues after having my gallbladder removed 6 years ago...Not sure what to do... I was on antibiotics for many years (I know bad) but I was hoping this would work out and help me feel better.. I am a low weight 95lbs and maybe need to reduce this to 1/16th of a teaspoon? I would be very grateful for any help...

Replied by Mmsg
(Somewhere, Europe)
12/06/2017

Yes Sschulz, reduce dosage. I only take a tiny pinch.

Replied by Michael
(New Zealand)
12/06/2017

Regarding the possible side-effects of taking Borax: I guess it can affect some folks differently but in my case it dries me out and I am not talking about "rehab" here!

I must talk to the ants and cockroaches about this, as castor sugar and borax dries them out also!! "Go figure", as you would say in the States!

My sinuses, ears and my (few remaining) lymph nodes get stuffed up and are sometimes quite painful. I promptly bring out the steam inhaler bowl, the kettle, the towel and the one drop of tea tree oil and have two, back-to-back sessions of this. Then, I do the ice pack at the back of the head trick for ten minutes or so and go to bed with a hot water bottle under my neck. This latter is a favourite of mine. Soo good.

Of course I stop the borax for a couple of days, reduce the dosage and hope that I won't suffer again (until the next time).

The definition of madness is to keep doing the same thing over and over again whilst expecting a different result!!

But I feel "in my bones" that the dreaded Arthritis is no worse than it was and some remote parts of my complicated anatomy may actually be feeling less sore as a consequence.

Long live the Borax Protocol. Just stay tuned to your body and listen to the subtle messages it is trying to convey to you !

P.S. I follow the E.C. guidelines on this one and do not overdose.

Cheers and Happy Christmas,

Michael

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
12/07/2017

Being a sort of curious person, this drying out, is it possible that borax being one of our minerals is off balancing another mineral. I know salt thins mucus secretions and too much potassium depletes salt and the list of these causes and effect is long but I think I read one on walter lasts website.... keep me updated as to the source of this mystery. I do pinch of borax in 2 gal hourlong footsoaks three days a week this month along with about thirty supplemental things to keep upright and moving forward. Blessings, Charity

Replied by Bridget
(Orlando, Florida)
03/11/2018
3 posts

Charity, just read your post from 2017. I was curious why you soak your feet? Thanks

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
03/12/2018

I try things in my feet first. I used Dhea as a foot cream and now I take it internal as a capsule.5 mg every other day. I had horrible foot pain for years from the ankle down and used activated charcoal with a couple drops of castor oil on large bandaids and in one night the pain stopped and never returned. I was trying the borax because I got a sliver in my foot while cutting blackberry vines back. It was a crazy experience . Eye opening and painful as my gut started to hurt, and my forehead swelled up, for three days from just a pinch of borax. My stomach has been a life issue of drama, and many panic attacks, so I have a fear of trying things I was allergic to everything for many years but not anymore. Watercure by Dr. Batmanghelidj gave me lots of insights.

So on monday I foot soak and tuesday I wake up with sticky blobs in my mouth, like it's killing my candida, then I use activated charcoal during the morning in my mouth to clean it up. I never had that until the foot soaking. On wednesday I footsoak and on thursday I wake up with sticky blobs in my mouth. Kill those candida, hope to find myself well this year.

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
03/13/2018

I was born sick and battled stuff my entire life in my gut, skin, and many other issues, so I try stuff from my feet first to keep stomach from going nuts. My stomach can set off some horrific panic attacks. Don't underestimate the power of the skin. I know a lot of people on here talk about being sick after a massage and I think it might be the oils they use during the massage might be too much. A bandage with activated charcoal on a couple drops of castor oil on my feet for one night healed my feet of years of pain I had .... Gone.

If my hip hurts I put the bandage on the hip overnight and my hip is pain free.

Replied by Natalia
(Mn, Usa)
04/05/2018

You may have leaky gut (protein spilling into the blood rather than being absorbed) and need to address your GI terrain issues while trying a lower dose and looking into your entire diet and lifestyle choices; pre- and pro-biotics are key. Healing can be a long and sometimes painful journey, but well worth the invested time and self-care.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Joanna (New York ) on 11/07/2017

Hi, I am taking the female 1/8 tsp dose of borax after a main meal, however I have been experiencing stomach pains which are pretty uncomfortable. Should I discontinue or lower my dosage? Thanks!

Replied by Magnolia
(Baltimore)
11/07/2017

Definitely cut down dosage. Even a few grains a day can benefit.

Replied by Joanna
(Charlotte, Nc)
11/08/2017

Thank you! Should I also be taking activated charcoal? or whatever that is...I've read some posts below about that being beneficial with borax treatment.

Replied by Magnolia
(Baltimore)
11/08/2017

If you are still having stomach pain charcoal would probably help.

If you are taking borax to detox, charcoal may be good to use too, except charcoal is kind of a pain to use because you have to take it away from other supplements and meds.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Bobbie (Usa ) on 11/04/2017

I've started taking 1/8 tsp in 1 liter of water and sinuses are more clear. I did get a racing heart but stopped it right away with essential oil application. I feel a bit of bone loss is happening in my neck. I know this feeling from when I overly nursed my 1st son to comfort him when he was suffering with undiagnosed thrush which turned systemically into full body eczema. I subsequently got a "hump" in my lower neck/upper back area. Oddly years ago I dealt the same bone loss from taking diatomaceous earth for about a week. I love the borax but can only continue if the ache of loss in this area goes away.

Replied by Amateur Researcher
(Earth)
11/29/2017

It's possible the pain in the neck and hump on your lower neck / upper back are due to a hormonal imbalance. Specifically too much cortisone (a stress hormone, which makes sense, as daily life is stressful, and pregnancy understandably adds to this).

Should you be noticing this hump coming back, if you can at all possibly afford to, see a doc (and I'm not a fan of having to see doctors, but sometimes...) and have your cortisone levels checked. Though we need some cortisone to live, it being too high (called Cushing's Syndrome) causes a mess of problems (including bone loss) that can get worse if not put in check.

Replied by Natalia
(Mn, Usa)
04/05/2018

That hump is a classic sign of Candida overgrowth! Borax will work for this, but you may need to add some additional supports for deep healing and detox.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Gabriela (Czech Republic) on 10/25/2017

Hi, I have taken less than 1/8 teaspoon of borax in to a 2dcl glass and drunk a bit. Less than half. Now I have third day terrible stomach pain, I have a rapid heartbeat and body crack. Any idea to get rid of the excess boron? probably I took to much of boron.

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Usa)
10/26/2017

chanca piedra for any stone issues causing pain, milk thistle, or a liver detox supplement, Kefir 1 TBSP or some gut enzymes from a good yogurt. molybdenum, magnesium, selenium

At night use some activated charcoal 3 caps or tabs and 16 ounces of water and put some castor oil on your gut and a shirt you don't care about and go to bed.

some other things that might help is 1/4 to 1/2 tsp baking soda dissolved in water 12 oz, make sure it's mixed well before drinking it. 1 tsp. Apple cider vinegar with some honey in water ...

read more on earth clinic boron borax section

That's what I do.

Replied by Mama To Many
(Tn)
10/26/2017

I usually take a couple capsules of activated charcoal when I think I am having side effects from something (especially digestive side effects), with plenty of water.

Also, 1 cup epsom salt in a warm bath for 20 minutes, especially to calm the heart racing down.

Hope you feel better soon!

Replied by Matt
(Uk)
11/03/2017

I've just started taking a very small dose in a litre of water. It's my second day now and my heart is racing. Anyone else experience this and did it last long/slow down?

Replied by Bobbie
(Usa)
11/04/2017

It's die off from parasites or candida I'm sure. Take activated charcoal and keep using the following day. That's what I would do.

Replied by John
(Michigan)
11/15/2017

You can always start with a lower dose and increase as tolerance allows! You can also start off limiting how many days a week you take it. Maybe once a week, then twice a week with many day in between then three days a week building up to something like every other day etc.... If you just woke up one day and decided to go run 10 miles or drink 4 gallons of water while exercise and water are both considered good moderation and building up is key. Just because something is good for you does not mean your body will like it right away or even handle it well! As I understand it an apple should have 20mg of Boron in it but today only has 1mg of boron in it. I have seen the apple bit listed as micro-grams and milligrams so do not know which one is accurate. So almost everyone is deficient in it. Since your body has been working with out it adding it in suddenly out of the blue could surely throw a monkey wrench into the works. When it comes to nutrition and supplements even prescription medicine it is not an all or nothing situation often you start low and have to work the dose up! So do not worry so much about the dose not being high enough or freq. enough. Even if your dose is not optimal it is better than not taking any at all. Compliance is always best if you have no negative side effects! Think long term!

Replied by Josephine
(Ny)
11/18/2017

I never knew Borax killed parasites. Does anyone have more information about this?

Replied by Trudyg
(Alabama)
11/20/2017

Borax is a 'surfactant', meaning that it works on the surface--think of a water drop on a freshly waxed car beading up. The wax prevents the water from spreading out and so the water's surface tension keeps it stuck together in a large drop. Soap reduces the surface tension and the water sheets over the car. In my opinion, if a parasite has a surface that repels attempts to penetrate it, then the borax acts to reduce that and, voila, the bug's defense is breached. Just my theory.

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
12/20/2017

I am still doing foot soaks 3 x a week but my pinch has increased of borax soap and every time, my body starts screaming out in pain where I have issues in my health, lousy sleep and then I get stronger after that subsides and feel healthier and more youthful. I guess NO Pain....NO gain....also read that msm lowers boron levels so if you overdid it you might use some msm with vits c and molybdenum because msm lowers them too. wonder what else I don't know that is causing me pains.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Carolina (Santiago, Chile) on 10/14/2017

Hi, I´m in the second day of 1/8 teaspoon in liter of water. An hour after I felt clear of mind but a great kidney pain! Also I experienced pain in a knee where I have a kind of bone balls that appeared suddenly. I have the feeling that those balls are badly distributed calcium. Can anyone tell me about kidney pain? What can I do to help them? Anyway I feel fine!

Replied by Armin H.
(Switzerland)
06/14/2018

Same thing here. I took (very low dose) of Borax for a few days and got kidney pain. So I've stopped with Borax, but the kidney pain doesn't go away :-(
Any idea on that?


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Michelle (Georgia ) on 08/27/2017

I have been using the 1/8 teaspoon of borax in purified water for 5 days. I began experiencing flu like symptoms along with congestion and strong sadness. Please let me know if this is die off. From what I have read lesson the amount? Thank you.

Replied by Phyllis
(Tuscumbia, Alabama)
08/28/2017

Like any detox it's most likely die off, when all those toxins start getting stirred up they resist leaving the happy little home they've made. The symptoms shouldn't last more than the flu would.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Jason H. (Sacramento, Ca) on 05/10/2017

Congestion and Depression from Boron Detox from Candida and Fluoride detoxing; no side effects now.

I discovered boron/borax just over a year ago, January, 2016. I got sick the first week, it was my typical congestion sickness, and it cleared up in a week; I assumed it was a candida die off. I took 3-5 x 3 mg boron pills. Boron gave me increased mental clarity right away, the same day. But my suicidal thoughts increased, and they went away the day I took iodine. I started the 50 mg iodine/day high iodine/selenium protocol the following month, on Feb 7th 2016. Iodine did not give me any candida symptoms, which I attributed to starting boron a month earlier. I could also tell boron was helping my joints. After a few months, I wondered if boron was giving me a bit of depression. I stopped taking it, and the depression lifted.

By the fall of 2016, I increased my iodine to 150mg/day. Being convinced that boron was helpful, I tried it again, thinking the increased iodine would help prevent any depression. This week, I have taken 1 whole teaspoon of borax per day in my morning coffee, having increased it from about 1/4 teaspoon a few weeks ago. I do not notice any depression. No rashes. No kidney pain. No hair falling out. No side effects this time. I suspect that it is the candida die off, and/or the fluoride detox, which may take longer, that cause people's bad symptoms from taking boron.

I advocate iodine and boron; both have helped my health. I lift weights, I stretch, I eat green smoothies, protein, eggs, and lots of fruit. I'm healthy for the most part, but I'm seeking optimal health outside of the medical system, and I aim to keep myself super healthy so as to be able to avoid any harm the medical establishment offers. I also take Vitamins B complex, C, D, E, B12, magnesium, zinc, copper, and selenium, and other assorted herbs from time to time.

Replied by Becky
(Ca)
12/01/2017
31 posts

To Jason.

Very interesting post. I have a serious systemic candida infection from antibiotics 12 years ago. I have started less then the 1/8 borax in liter of water and do fell like candida symptoms increased.

I am pretty sore when I wake each morning. Not sure if its the kidneys. My kidney lab (BUN) is one number under high.

I like Iodine but noticed increase hair loss everytime I use even at 12mg daily.

Any suggestion from anyone is greatly appreciated!

Becky

Replied by Epeach
(Ga)
01/02/2018

Do you take the complement vitamins, minerals, baking soda, and salt loading? I had hair loss, too, initially. I have a head full, now. I have been using iodine for 6 months. I use Borax, but not always orally. I add it to my bath water, too.

Replied by Annette
(Ohio)
09/28/2018

When u say u add 1t in ur coffee, do U mean straight borax or 1 t of borax solution diluted in water? Thx


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 04/06/2017

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,, most have followed my drama after my fall 3 years ago which crushed my T 12. Know I's wearing you out with that true yarn, but now I think there is a tie with borax and my leg edema. All along I have thought it was totally due to my fall. I confess that I am not a disciplinarian and am a hit and miss kind of a guy. My edema has swung 180 and back several times over a period of time. A while back several good EC folks questioned the side effects of borax..i e. that it caused their edema. That is one of my hits and misses. Now I am totally off borax and will see what happens to my legs. There has not been a drastic change, but I think I can see my swelling going down. A pharmacist friend cured her sciatica problem by eating candied Ginger for three days. I am now eating candied Ginger.

My goal is to be smart by age 85 and if you birds think I's a smart ass now ........ just u wait for 5 more years. I will be voted out of EC by acclamation.

ATS =======ORH=========

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile, Tn)
04/23/2017

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,

After a few weeks of no borax, I have now concluded that my edema has no correlation with that. I just wish it was because I now think my problem is far worse than I originally thought. It is probably my liver. Of course, at age 80, you have lots of problems. Some of you have followed me over the years as I have grown. My edema tells me that I have a bad problem. We will again start our EDTA Chelation tomorrow. Cleaning out your blood vessels can not hurt. The next day I go down to Ringo, Ga to a new doctor that does ozone. I want him to address my right knee and we will then discuss my lower back.

Have had a pissin contest over the years about getting a homeopathic solution for poison ivy . I am going to develop a solution that will make you immune to poison ivy. I plan to produce a weak solution of poison ivy so any one can be immune to poison ivy. Yep, I will be the guinea pig. We shall see. If I do this, then I want all on EC to take on a challenge that they choose and make it work. Can you imagine what thousands of folks can do it they just set their mind to it? I can...... can you?

I'm a dreamer....... are you? ======ORH=====

Replied by KT
(Usa)
04/24/2017

Dear ORH,

With all due respect, we have butt heads but I cannot resist sharing what I learned. Over forty years ago I learned too many carbohydrates caused me fluid retention. Still holds true today.

Now, with unavoidable GMO's infiltrating our entire food supply we need to eat differently than we have grown accustom to. I have learned what used to have "no carb content" can no longer be claimed. Who has the money for testing to prove one way or the other? My body retaining fluid, arthritis fare-ups or indigestion is my barometer.

Considering your age, edema, arthritis and diabetes, I would caution you trying to find something to make us immune to poison ivy. Long term studies would be required to test validity.

I care.

Love, KT

Replied by Robert Henry
(Ten Mile, Tn)
04/24/2017

KT, love you like a sister, but I have to have a process problem to solve least I end up in the top of a tall, tall pine tree. Went to EDTA chelation today and with all my problems I have not had a treatment in 3 years. You are supposed to have a treatment every month to maintain what you have already accomplished. We then went by our little farm to see what damage the flood had wrought. Well it took out a new raised bed, the fence on the South end and the water is still too high to tell the damage on the north end. Our green house plants are ready to be set in the ground, but the garden is standing in water. They will soon be root bound in their small cells.

I am in my glory as I have one heck of a problem and will have to think and work my way through it. I could cuss and throw my hat but that won't help a thing. My industry career was straightening out mills that were in the ditch. Once I got them running smoothly, life was boring and I then looked for another challenge. Right not with my health problems and our farm, life is about as interesting as I can stand. Oh yeah, slept with my legs elevated last night and my edema was slightly improved.

Thank you for your concern. ===ORH===

PS, here is a graph the Sewee Creek level at our farm. The Corp of Engineers tower is located on our property.

http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=seet1&wfo=mrx

Replied by KT
(Usa)
04/25/2017

Dear ORH,

Vitamins B-6 and C are reported to reduced fluid retention. You might want to look for the B-Complex 100 as you get all the B's because I read where taking only one can cause deficiencies in the others. They are water soluble so you can't OD on them.

Love,

KT

Replied by Kendra
(Washington)
07/15/2017

There is an antidote to poison ivy. Jewelweed is the antidote and there is a company that sells a spray, salve, and a soap, I think.


Borax Side Effects
Posted by Valdoria (Jacksonville, Fl) on 04/04/2017

I started taking 1/8 tsp of Borax in water throughout the day with a couple days off per week. After about 2-3 weeks I noticed old injuries hurting again. My old surgical site of my right ankle which had been reconstructed with pins, plates, etc.. had healed and all but forgotten over the last 25 years but this last week I have trouble walking on it.. same with some back pain. I am hoping this is a healing process but certainly don't want to continue if I am causing issues that will worsen. If anyone has insight into this, please advise. Would love to hear from Ted.

Replied by Sue
(Usa)
04/11/2017

Try reading the Boron Conspiracy article ( http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm ). It references the magnesium/calcium relationship as it relates to boron. I wonder if your boron regiment is causing calcium redistribution.

Replied by Frank
(Tampa)
08/02/2017

I've been using borax for about 3 weeks, at first I experienced some headaches and depression, but now an old broken toe (broke it 15 years ago) suddenly started to hurt, not the like the occasional ache associated with the weather. Now it hurts like I just broke it! I really think it re-broke all by itself, there's been no event to explain it. Calcium redistribution? Anyone else experience anything similar?

Replied by Timh
(Ky)
08/03/2017
2042 posts

Yes, kinda. As I have been dealing with Bone disease for several yrs, my experience with Borax has been rather effective in killing a chronic mycoplasma infection but not much improvement for Bones as far as I could tell. So a few months ago I assumed I was not getting enough boron from the Borax and started supplementing 4mg with very good results.

Recently in my up & down cycles of bone disease, I too get an acute or temporary episode of bone pain which is later sensed as marked improvement in the condition. This happened last night as well as July 3rd and both times I was noticeably better the fallowing day, which leaves me to conclude there is a point of pain into as well as out of disease, like a gateway; kinda like the emotional hurts-so-good phenomina.

Take Turmeric to reduce inflammation. Other minerals needed for bones are Calcium/Magnesium, Manganese, and Strontium. Vit D & K are need also.



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