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Lugol's Nasal Rinse

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Posted by Baldev (Mumbai, Maharashtra, India) on 12/02/2020 190 posts

Hi,

My question is for Bill or Art. I prepared the nasal drops with lugol iodine as suggested by Bill and use it regularly when I go out. My observation is that as soon as I put one dropper of the liquid in to my nostril, it goes straight in to my throat and is swallowed, so does happen in an other nostril also.

My question is that in this case, does it still take care of the sinuses against the covid19 virus in the sinus area, and hope the swallowed liquid does no harm.

Thanks,

Baldev


Manuka Honey

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Posted by Mama To Many (Tn) on 10/09/2020
5 out of 5 stars

A couple of people that I know have had Covid. My sister's friend felt that Manuka Honey is what helped her the most. She was taking 1/4 t. 4 times a day of very high quality Manuka honey. I did share with her about high dose melatonin but I am not sure if she used it.

I knew someone else that healed up quickly with the use the high dose melatonin, quercetin, vitamin C, zinc and magnesium.

My chiropractor is taking quercetin prophylactically for its antiviral properties.

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Natural in NY
(NY)
03/17/2021
5 out of 5 stars

@Mama to Many,

Thank you for your post. My mother has COVID and I gave her some Manuka Honey. She had been extremely nauseous and vomiting. She did have to get fluids at the hospital and they gave her an anti-nausea med that she took once. However, she started on the Manuka Honey just before getting the fluids and the med. The fluids and med did help very much. However, she kept taking the honey and has not needed the medicine that was prescribed. She thinks the honey is helping her. She said it made her feel relaxed and helped her sleep. I thought that was odd. I gave it to her mainly based on posts that said honey helped with nausea/vomiting and for the anti-bacterial and anti-viral properties of Manuka Honey. Your post also encouraged me as well. All I know is that she seems to be improving each day and she is really just using the honey.


Manuka Honey
Posted by Tricia (EC Facebook) on 02/27/2020
5 out of 5 stars

We have stocked up on manuka honey 20+!


MMS

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Posted by Sunlight888 (Atlanta, Georgia) on 07/28/2020
5 out of 5 stars

My mom of 78 had Covid. Dry cough extreme headache, no strength whatsoever almost even to walk. No fever but body pains, pain in the lung area.. Stomach pains.. She took MMS with 4%hcl (citric acid has many side effects) 3 to 4 x a day 4 to 6 drops (varied).

Two days later, she was TOTALLY normal.. It was almost unreal.. Of course I was in tears as I love her a lot. Am taking it myself now for heavy metal detox as I read hair root tests after two weeks showed no more heavy metals. They put this stuff in bloodbags to kill Hiv etc and viruses. (look it up) also in our water. But to use as a cure they are so scared as there wd be no more money for Pharma and taxes.

They shout it is Bleach. It is NOT. I'll prove it, hydroxine peroxide H2O2 and water H2O, are they the same? No. Well the difference between Bleach and Chlorine Dioxide is ALSO one 0xygen molecule taken away... And as different as Hydroxine peroxide and water, so is Bleach and Chl. Dioxide.

Seriously, it's worth. Keep doses low, max 4 drops or 6 when you have Covid. Start low and when you feel any detoxing going too fast, go little less.. If any effects, it is from dying off of viruses or pathogens or fungus. When you don't take it for a while (been 3 hours, take vit C. Non acidic is better for your tummy for some of us who have hyper acidity)

Strength to you in these trying times.

Replied by Layla
(Usa)
07/28/2020

Can you tell us where you got your MMS from? I'm scared of getting sick from it if it's a scammy seller and not the real thing. Also, did you get your hair analysis locally or online? If online, where? Thanks!

Replied by Annette
(Texas)
08/01/2020

What is MMS?

EC: MMS = Medical Miracle Supplement (chlorine dioxide). It is a very controversial protocol.

paul k
(meridian, ms)
10/31/2020

See https://jimhumble.co/. Look for MMS or water purification on ebay.com, 22.5% sodium chlorite and a 4% HCl acid activator, typically sold in 4 oz. bottles of each.

Replied by Ramesh G.
(Mumbai)
08/12/2020
0 out of 5 stars

I have been taking mms for nearly 3 years using lemon drops. But some 10 days ago this seem to be not working. Because one morning I got up with severe pain in my thigh. Hence here we have an ayurvedic medicine Mahasudarshan kada. I took three times a day. I was relived. I also pumped h2o2 in my mouth (bill munro). After 10 days I was relieved. I hope this was a Flue. I would highly appreciate if u can inumerat on the advantages of using HCL 4 persant, over lemon juice.

Thanks

Ramesh G.
Mumbai, INDIA


MMS
Posted by Dave Dawson (United Kingdom) on 06/13/2020
3 out of 5 stars

MMS = Hydroxychloroquine


MMS
Posted by Save Lives (anon.com) on 04/04/2020
5 out of 5 stars

Chlorine Dioxide for Coronavirus Covid-19: A Revolutionary, Simple and Effective Approach This lifesaving video is made for free distribution. Please watch carefully till the end. https://www.brighteon.com/dd16fea2-15bd-476e-b493-adbfbb7b0251 Andreas Kalcker: Coronavirus Special Information for Physicians and Researchers https://andreaskalcker.com/en/coronavirus-special-information-for-physicians-and-researchers Jim Humble: Blog update: Covid-19 cured with MMS https://jimhumble.co/blog/coronavirus-update-covid-19

Replied by Tyler Vincent
(Canyon BC)
04/05/2020

I thought it was just an advertisement as well, but the information provided in the first video seems to be quite legit, but I would like to hear some first hand accounts of people who have covid19 and use MMS.

Dell
(USA)
04/04/2020
1 out of 5 stars

This is just an advertisement. Skip it.

Cassidy
(Guatemala)
07/09/2020
5 out of 5 stars

In Latin America cds, chlorine dioxide, which is made infusing the vapor of combined MMS and citric acid in an air tight container, is catching like wildfire. Hundreds of testimonials from doctors and patients can be found in Spanish in Facebook groups, bitchute and lbry. Treatments on many covid patients with 100% success.


MMS
Posted by J. Park (LA, CA, US) on 03/24/2020
4 out of 5 stars

I have seen so much misleading statistics which is too dangerous to overlook, so I must warn people. Covid-19 death rate (mortality rate) can NEVER be calculated as: total deaths / total infected. This mortality rate is used & advertised? by so many, that people get a wrong notion of how deadly this Covid-19 really is. Total.Deaths/Total.Infected is only VALID when the SITUATION is completely OVER, NOT when the epidemic/pandemic is in progress. Those of you who don't understand, consider this simple hypothetical example: x x x There are 1000 marbles, red & blue, 500 each, and they are well mixed. You take out a handful - you don't know the composition of these marbles. say 10 marbles showed up, 4 red, 6 blue, now you declare percentage of red marbles as 4/1000 = 0.4% ! You take out 100 marbles, red 52, blue 48, 52/1000 = 5.2% ! .... etc. x x x We know that red marbles' percentage is 50% Only when taken out all 1000, the percentage is correct ! This is INTERNATIONAL NONSENSE these days. Covid-19 is very dangerous disease !!! US mortality rate is currently, as of Mar 24, is about 66%! Figures from Iran & red China are not trustworthy. Italy 45%, Spain 41%, S. Korea 4% Official sites "advertise" the death rate: US 1.3% S.Korea 1.4%, very similar right? (make sense why many countries are including US now praising S.Korea?) How do I calculate mortality rate? For the total number of people affected, there are only 2 POSSIBLE OUTCOMES. DEATH or SURVIVAL, wrong ? There is no other way OUT. So the mortality rate can only be calculated using these 2 numbers. For example, US, 582 deaths, 295 survivals (cured). Percentage is naturally 582/(582+295) = 66% S.Korea, 124 deaths, 3507 survivals, -> 3.4% (make sense why many countries including US are now praising S.Korea?) Now the venerable MMS community recommends: For Adults: 6 drops MMS1 in 4 ounces of water --------------- 6d/2hrs x 5/day for 2 days every two hours 5 times first day, Repeat 2nd day. If all symptoms are gone then continue with 3 drops/hr ----------------- p1000 for 3 days for 8 hours for another 3 days! For Small Children: same as above but with only 3 drops. 1 drop instead of 3 drops for the 3 days after the first two days of strong dosing! NOTE:This should wipe it out this flu-like virus that many are being scared with its presence in this world! https://g2churchnews.org/576-g2voice-181 * MMS is not a proven cure for Covid-19, but I believe there is every reason to trust MMS, after all there is no KNOWN cure for it (personal opinion of j.park)

Replied by J. Park
(LA, CA, US)
06/08/2020
5 out of 5 stars

Terry
(Missouri)
04/11/2020

You are only calculating the number of people who go into hospital, not the 75% who have mild or no symptoms. Most people going into the hospital had severe problems and their body was not able to handle the new problem. The best way to tell if overall deaths are up in March 2020 against March over last 10 years. I suspect people with enough zinc and other immune system nutrients will do just fine. More people will die from them collapsing the world's economy then from any virus, just like more people died in United States from the great depression than Spanish flu.

Replied by Deedledee
(Alton il)
03/21/2021

I feel really sad for you. U r sooo very out there with ur figures. IF U use THE deaths as currently totaled ur at bout .6%. But according to CDC figures the true deaths is only about 6% of the total deaths. So around a total of 30,000 died from c19. NOT died WITH c19. The rest died with c19 after other issues including the gov NOT ALLOWING treatments that actually work to be used. Can you imagine knowing ur letting ppl die. That wud just b horrific! I know of many nurses and docs quit coz they cudnt do it. If you can't find the info on the CDC site coz it is confusing, go to "The Highwire", look at the vids dated middle last yr and it will show u how NOT deadly the virus is. A chart on CDC site shows it is less than the flu. Even if u r one that becomes critical u survive.


MMS
Posted by JJ (AZ) on 03/08/2020

Just a heads up on the apparently popular Humble MMS: https://healthwyze.org/reports/320-jim-humbles-mms-fraud


MMS
Posted by J Park (Los Angeles, CA, US) on 02/27/2020
5 out of 5 stars

Hi, Bob from Murphy, Nc https://earthclinic.com/supplements/mms/#comment-174179 Thanks so much for this thorough information on MMS. I need to study and learn myself. I've been exposed to MMS and using it for several years and have certain amount of confidence in that. As you know current Pandemic, COVID-19, is threatening us and there is no known cure as of now. I'm ready to tackle this with MMS (CDS 24,000ppm in fact) if it should come in my way(I hope not but no one is sure). Since you mentioned SARS virus, I like your opinion on the Coronavirus (2019). Jim Humble already sent us a newsletter saying he thinks MMS will handle this CoronaVirus too. I agree with him and got my CDS bottle ready to fight. Can you give us your feedback on this ?

Replied by Charity
(Faithville, Us)
04/22/2020

LOW ZINC caused blood flow issues and vein issues and loss of taste and smell. Zinc is what body runs low on while fighting things.... that one guys leg had clot and had to amputate....others lost sense of taste and smell. Copper lowers zinc. Just info....

Replied by Bo. K
(Dom Rep)
07/06/2020

Well, while there is no cure, I can promise as treatments go, lysine number 1.... quercetin and NAC. A distant number 2. Yes I know many who have used all 3 together, while not necessary. Lysine yes, if cough is developed or suspicion of allergies, quercetin. NAC seems to help Lysine very well for people with people with clot related (leg) pains. Lysine does 80% of the work. NAC and quercetin are more specific symptom resolution. Lysine helps zinc retention, so take low amounts of zinc as a prophylaxis.


Multiple Remedies

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Posted by Cindy (Alabama) on 01/18/2021
5 out of 5 stars

I had the symptoms of COVID in March. I immediately upped my vitamin c, 1000 to 1500 mg. Daily. I upped my garlic, 3 caps a day. Started taking oregano oil, 3 caps a day. I also took 1T. of colloidal silver once a day. Gargled it than swallowed. I normally take melatonin every night. It took 3 weeks to run it off. The last week was when I lost my taste and smell. Through all this I never went to bed but felt pretty bad. I also prayed the whole time. This may help somebody.


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Posted by Mary (NY, NY) on 12/24/2020
5 out of 5 stars

My husband's aunt and I got COVID-19 at the same time after getting together for lunch. We both had a general ill feeling and loose stools for 3 days. Last Sunday, I had difficulty breathing. I thought I was going to have to go to the ER.

I mixed low sodium V8 Juice (the low sodium is high in potassium and chloride) with juice from a lemon & lime and horseradish and celery seed and Worcestershire Sauce which contains vinegar, molasses, onions, cloves, garlic and chili pepper extract. I alternated that with 8 ounces of hot water mixed with 1/4 teaspoon iodized salt.

I also ate small pieces of raw garlic. I also took a nasal spray that contains sodium chloride. I rinsed my mouth with hydrogen peroxide mixed with water in a 50-50 combination per bottle instructions. I rubbed hydrogen peroxide on my face and hands. I don't have food grade hydrogen peroxide. After an hour my severe symptoms subsided. I continued to take small bites of the raw garlic every couple of hours and took sips of the salt water the rest of the day. I also ate pineapple which is high in enzymes and had chicken soup made with brown rice, salt and chicken bone broth. The bones had been simmered in water with a dash of vinegar for 6 hours.

I relayed this information to my husband's aunt. I was able to perform day to day duties on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. My only subsequent symptoms are a sporadic cough. My husband's aunt was in the hospital on Tuesday. On Tuesday afternoon the hospital discharged her. She was not allowed to eat or drink anything while in the hospital because they were running tests. The hospital confirmed she has COVID-19. The only treatment she got before leaving the hospital was a shot containing anti-coagulant medicine. Yesterday my husband's aunt had a severe sore throat and was laid up in bed. Her husband was fielding phone calls to let her rest.

Recent evidence in COVID-19 biology indicates there is significant reproduction of the virus in the nose and throat during the first five days of symptoms.

I have a glass of orange juice in the morning as part of my daily routine for Vitamin C, calcium and vitamin D. I take a vitamin D supplement and calcium carbonate supplement for my osteopenia. I take a pre-natal vitamin for vitamins and minerals and extra methylfolate. I am 60 years old. Going forward while the pandemic rages on I am going to switch back to white towels and white sheets washed in detergent and a small amount of bleach since bleach kills COVID-19 in 5 minutes. I bought a mold and mildew cleaner for the bathroom that contains sodium hypochlorite. I am washing my masks every 3 days. I am going to keep hydrated with spring water. I use iodized salt and sea salt while cooking. I have wild oregano herbs and oil of wild oregano in my arsenal if needed.

According to Doug Kaufmann from Know the Cause, chlorophyll in greens (spinach, broccoli, romaine lettuce, kale, etc.) is one of nature's great “detoxifiers”, anti-fungals and anti-mycotics. Fiber (eg. vegetables, oatmeal, ground flax seed) binds up toxins and eliminates them from the body.

I am going to try to get 50 grams of protein every day which is the RDA for some-one my height 5'11". I am going to get protein, fats, carbs, fiber, vitamins and minerals from food like salmon, cod, chicken, grass fed beef, chicken liver, turkey, eggs, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, peanut butter, walnuts, spinach, kale, raw almonds, yams, broccoli, beans, carrots, kiwis, oranges, grapefruits, chick peas, parmesan cheese, dried parsley, dried oregano, basil and cilantro. I eat fortified raisin bran cereal with half a sliced banana and 2% milk occasionally. I have a cappuccino every morning with 1/2 cup milk blended on high in the blender for 10 seconds and then heated with a tablespoon of coffee. I am going to look into the food grade hydrogen peroxide.

I don't know what the outcome will be for my husband's aunt. She is ten years older than me and is suffering greatly. She is limited to what she can take because of severe acid reflex. I have a 77 year old friend that had COVID-19 in February. He was in and out of the hospital over the course of 14 days. He received oxygen and a blood transfusion and a strong antibiotic while in the hospital and went home with an oxygen tank. It took him several months to recover. He uses a vaporizer with mineral salts every day.

Thank you Earth Clinic for getting vital information out to those struggling with disease. Wishing you and yours a happy and healthy holiday season!

Replied by Tessa
(Okanagan)
12/24/2020

Hi Mary (NY, NY) –

Thank you for such an in-depth description of what you did and took for treating your Covid-19. I hope your aunt gets better. It sounds like she's had it pretty rough.

I appreciate that you mentioned the following:

  • Recent evidence in COVID-19 biology indicates there is significant reproduction of the virus in the nose and throat during the first five days of symptoms.”

Every day I use the neti pot (actually, it's a nasal rinse syringe – it's so much easier to use) and I gargle. I'm hoping it will destroy anything nasty that I may pick up when I'm out. So far, so good!

I also take a number of vitamins but, as you mentioned, disrupting the virus reproduction in my nose and throat seems like the #1 place to start.

Thanks again for your post. I hope both you and your aunt fully recover.

Best wishes for 2021!

Mary
(NY, NY)
02/04/2021

Thank you Tessa for your well wishes.

My husband's aunt had severe head pain and body aches for several weeks after contracting COVID-19. Then she had a bad ear ache. She is feeling much better now. Lately I have been taking organic extra virgin coconut oil. I use it in brownies. I take half a box of Ghirardelli brownie mix and add a can of drained black beans, 1/4 cup oatmeal, 1/4 cup bran cereal, 1/3 cup coconut oil, 1/4 cup water and 1 egg. I have also been taking 1 teaspoon of coconut oil at night. Coconut oil is high in saturated fat so I try not to take more than a tablespoon per day. What also has helped me is taking walks in the sunshine for Vitamin D and eating salmon and chicken soup and raw foods like raw carrots and salads. I still have a cough emanating from deep in my lungs that occurs occasionally.

The following is from the link

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6817632/

The amount of high LA (40–60%) (lauric acid) mainly in the form of free fatty acids and monoglycerides in coconut oil has antibacterial activity, antiviral, antifungal, antiprotozoal, and also can enhance the immune system.

Best wishes for a healthy, happy and prosperous New Year!


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Posted by Randell (Nashville, Tennessee) on 12/17/2020
5 out of 5 stars

My name is Randell Stroud. I have studied Alternative medicine and herbolgy for years. Since we are in flu, cold and Covid season, here is my protocol to prevent against and fight virus infections. I personally CURED my Corona virus infection in 6 days following this method.

1. Sleep- get 7-9 hours a day. Sleep is when your body repairs itself. Sleep is critical for restoration.

2. Water- drink a minimum of 1.5 liters of clean water or healthy freshly juiced beverages. Our bodies are mostly made up of water. We lose 2 cups of water a day just by breathing! Avoid caffeine while sick or anything that dehydrates.

3. Vitamin D3 - getting 30 minutes of sun contact a day will give you enough vitamin D. This vitamin is actually a hormone which regulates nearly every function in your body including your immune system. If you are darker skinned or stay inside alot, you need to supplement with at least 1000 IU per day. (5000 IU if you're deficient or fighting a cold. Get a blood test to check your level.)

4. Emergen C: if you hate taking nasty multivitamins, this product is great at ensuring you get your daily supply of essential minerals and Vitamins to support a strong immune system and repair damaged tissue. (Take 2times per day if sick)

5. Panax Korean Ginseng: An herb used in traditional Asian medicine for thousands of years, this herb energizes your system, helps regulate insulin and blood sugar, increases circulation, builds immunity and has a mild anti-viral compound as well as a mild stimulant effect. (Dont take at bedtime). 500 to 1000 mg per day should suffice. Take with food

6. Exercise- exercising atleast 3 days a week for an hour with cardio and weight training will boost immunity, lower depression, and build a stronger skeleton.

7. Garlic- putting a few cloves of fresh crushed garlic in a warm soup is a great idea. In fact, eating one clove or two of freshly crushed garlic mixed with honey per day, is a guaranteed way to lower cholesterol, kill viruses, bacteria, and cleanse your body. Garlic may stink, but the health benefits are so good!

8. Yogi Detox tea: this tea is great to drink while sick. It contains many herbs like mullein and Burdock, which break down mucus and have slight anti-viral compounds. Look for blends that contain milk thistle as well. This herb is great for the liver! The liver is responsible for filtering blood and toxins in our body! This herb is so good, many alcoholics have reversed cirrhosis of the liver conditions by using it.

9. Olive Leaft extract: my all time favorite herb! This herb has been shown to lower cholesterol and prevent alzheimers. Like ginseng, it is also great for type 2 diabetes sufferers. Olive leaf is also a POWERFUL anti-viral, anti-inflammatory and antimicrobial agent. Some users have reported a remission in herpes and HIV after taking this herb in therapeutic doses. I personally saw an abscess be cured from olive leaf alone. Taking 1000mg per day, or more while sick, should suffice for most. Take with food such as buttered toast. Fat content helps to transfer nutrients.

10. Prayer/religion: Those who engage in prayer, meditation, and belong to a religious community tend to live longer and have lowered stress levels. Stress saps immunity! Prayer and meditation will lower your stress hormones allowing you to sleep deeper and reduce inflammation. Being a part of a community helps combat loneliness and depression as well.

Note: Be sure to introduce herbs one at a time and evaluate yourself every few days. Watch out for any adverse reactions. Research dosages according to individual needs. Cycle on for 6 weeks and take 2 weeks off all herbs to avoid any overdosing and to prevent tolerance to herbs. Avoid smoking cigarettes and limit alcohol and fast food consumption. Check with your doctor or research any interactions with prescribed medications) you can experiment with dosage depending on body weight and tolerance. I weigh 175lbs. If you're bigger, or smaller, you may need more or less.

Hope this helps. Pass it along and share for those who need stronger immune systems more than ever now!

-Randell Stroud


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Posted by whisperingsage (Northern CA) on 06/01/2020 49 posts
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I just got over Covid and it lasted for 8 weeks!!!! I take the 90 essential nutrients in optimal doses (See Wallach Wisdom charts for nutrient doses and mineral deficiencies). I have been taking the optimal doses for decades. Yet I was still bit by the Round Up in the food supply bug.

Sorry for the background, I'll try to make it quick.

I retook my childhood vaccines to get into nursing school. I immediately began to have chronic diarrhea for the next 13 years. ( turned out to be MMR contaminated with Round Up [glyphosate], Stephanie Seneff) I tried every thing I could, added new nutrients, 50 herbs, etc to try to stop it. Finally I stopped it with MSM and TMG. But a lot of damage had been done from not hanging onto and absorbing my nutrients. Tooth loss, peripheral neuropathy in my feet, hypothyroid, adrenal dysfunction, osteoporosis, duodenal ulcer, 3 hospitalizations from that, and finally perforated bowel. The PB itself caused sepsis>ARDS>cytokine storm>multiple organ failure, and stayed in that cycle for almost a month. I was passed out in the ICU for a month or a little more. Total ICU 2 months, relearned to stand and walk, took 3 more months, had a huge hole in my gut with a sponge and vacuum pack on it, new colostomy, TPN (total parenteral nutrition, (artificial milk for all practical purposes) into the vein, no food by mouth 4.5 months, TPN is famous for being inadequate nutritionally and causing diabetes and metabolic syndrome. And fatty liver. This happened to me. I am using intermittent fasting to correct this). Anyway, by the power of prayer and God's mercy, most of my organs were healed and came back online. My encephalitis just left a little memory issue, and a big vertigo issue, vestibular neuropathy it's called, But it's vertigo. And the 14 abdominal surgeries caused a lot of nerve damage, more than I would have anticipated. I know the vagus nerve is a long and winding and many branched nerve that embrace the bowels So no surprise there. But that it would numb my skin all over my legs and lower body area was weird. It took 7 months for the feeling on my skin to come back. It started by weird pain on the skin of my right hip. Even though I was walking with walker by my 3rd month NOT VERY WELL I might add, this took loooooooong. It took a year at home for me to be able to walk without a cane or walker, though the shopping carts in the store were a big help and allowed me more speed and distance. I still retained a bit of shortness of breath. My lung doctor failed to tell me what ARDS was but they did xray my lungs almost daily in the hospital (5 months). But the staff was always treating me for heart issues, which were resolved even by my chart. I kept having to refuse beta blockers and statins, because as a nurse, I know that med really well and it will destroy your brain and muscles faster than anything. So NO. My legs were not swollen, and my BP was fine at that point, and my pulse was even good after I restarted my B12 (anemia will speed up heart rate,with the ulcer and NOW new bleeding , duh). But after a year home, I began to wonder maybe they were right and I did have CHF (my paperwork showed normal ejection fraction levels so NO). THEN Covid happened. And there were doctors on Youtube explaining what ARDS was and then I realized that was what I had and I had the whole complex that goes from sepsis>cytokine storm>ARDS>multiple organ failure and suddenly lots of people had it and were threatening to overwhelm the system. THEN I got short of breath again, but much worse. No more walking around almost normal for me. I was back in bed, barely able to make it to the bathroom, my oxygen was 88 on room air, I was weak and incapable again. Hubby insisted it was NOT Coronavirus. But no one was testing, I was under 65 and not in contact with anyone outside the area. My second week I went to my doc for an Rx of 02. And a vitamin C IV. I was normally on 8 grams of vitamin C daily, because it does over 300 things and I needed that still. I was also still on my optimal dose 90 essentials. Zinc included. D included. So my 3rd week I was still on the 02 and had to raise it to the max, 6 liters, and still was in the 80's on 6 liters, that was the week I thought if I were to die, this would be then. But hubby took a week off and fed me etc. Still I developed a very swollen R leg, DVT I assumed, and as I researched it turned out this was the inflammatory aspect of the covid. So I had not been feeling much like eating so I had NOT been taking my vitamins except of C and D and A. So I started back on E and krill oil and nattokinase very high, and got that taken care of in about 4 weeks. As luck would have it, I was getting bitten by something, now I think it's mosquitoes, but never before had this reaction; swelling, redness hard, white in center, then very itchy for a month. Manuka honey on a bandage did help. But on my swollen leg so that I was walking like Quasi Moto. When walking at all. The DVT mostly didn't hurt unless walking. SO these bites would give me cellulitis on top of the inflammatory or maybe, BECAUSE of the inflammation. So I'm a little better in my 7th week and then I get something, I think an eyelash in my eye, I don't have eyedrops or an eye cup so can't wash it out. I watch a horrible marathon series on child abuse and have a good cry so I think it came out, but had spent a good amount of time scratching up my cornea. Finally decided to go with hubby to town, (I need the walker again, I now need the oxygen machine, , it's a small one but still cumbersome., and I can't drive myself yet. We decide to have my eye looked at in the ER. No foreign objects, thankfully, just scratches, so antibiotic eyedrops. OK. But they too refused to test me for covid. And just for drill, I looked up covid, eye infection. And there it was. the first patient zero lady from Wuhan going to Italy has a persistent eye infection that was positive for covid. And it healed in 20 days and 10 days later it was positive again.

So it turns out this is a thing too. For other covid symptom, had a horrible cough, but one day of headache and slight fever, twice over the 8 weeks that was chased away by high dose C, D and A, which is usual for me., I wondered why it allowed any of it to hang on for so long. But it did. So I heard Dr Gundry discuss high antioxidant olive oil. And yech, I hate olive oil, (but love olives) and get the expensive Moroccan kind. And take a table spoon a day.,Yech. But my 3rd day on it, (week 8) it began I guess to work. Also about a few days before, renewed my use of oregano oil (in gelcaps) which I hadn't taken for years, but had taken before ), but both are known as powerful antivirals, antibacterial and antifungal. As an added look before restarting oregano oil, I found a study that said it regrew villi. Well, I sure needed that. Now considering that the covid is a form of SARS and considering the SARS was never able to be made into a vaccine (ALL the ferrets died, in the new tests for this covid19, all the monkeys are sick), and considering the low antibody length of time the coronas tend to have anyway, I decided I needed a prophylactic to prevent it from coming back.

My 5000 to 10,000 IU of D was NOT enough! I took care of everything before now. So Many like Francis Boyle say it IS engineered. My 8000 mg of C daily was not enough to prevent it (this has prevented and cured those that got through, and quickly) And my 50 mg of zinc (taken because I was born deficient, and always have to take a lot) didn't stop it.

Replied by Bo. K
(Dom Rep)
07/06/2020

Can I guess you are a moderate coffee drinker? If you are, stop asap. This is poisoning you.

You eat a good portion of seeds, nuts oats based foods? Drink a lot of orange or grape juice? STOP

ADD either cheese, plain yogurt, papaya to your diet with every meal, you will see results. Or just have all these foods as a meal.

Missm
(New York)
07/26/2020

I found that Covid gave me an allergy or severe reaction to dairy.

i would drink my coffee with cream and immediately start coughing for 45 minutes every morning. Once I stopped all dairy the coughing went away.

I still have Covid issues but the symptoms reduced 75 percent by dairy elimination.

Regarding citrus, I use a fresh ginger, lemon slice with peel, unfiltered honey, liposomal vitamin C, reishi, rhodiola, cordyceps powder blended into drink with some apple cider vinegar And filtered water and this has been a life saver.


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Posted by Penny W (United States) on 05/16/2020
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I responded to one of the gentlemen in the thread with this, but wanted to also include it in the main thread so others could see. He had stated that antibiotics aren't useful against viruses...generally true, but there's more than one way to skin a cat. You don't necessarily have to kill the virus, per se. You can use many avenues to making it harder for the virus to clone itself using your cells.

Antibiotics like azithromycin and tetracycline inhibit proteases the virus exploits to gain entry to your cells. These antibiotics also down regulate mast cell production. The virus triggers mast cells and then uses them damage the epithelial linings of the lungs. When the virus damages those linings, it then can get to the highly vascularized tissue beneath and travel through the blood to other organs. It also damages dendritic cells which the body uses to trigger and balance immune response. Autopsies show shriveled dendrites, shrunken spleen, heavy lungs. The virus increases vascular permeability which allows fluid build up and fibrin production in the lungs. Antibiotics aren't used to kill the virus. (CCU nurse here) Specific antibiotics like the tetracycline family and azithromycin reduce inflammatory cytokines like interleukin 6, 8 etc. Also when given with hydroxychloroquine and zinc there is a synergistic effect.

Hydroxycholoroquine alters the pH to make the cells less hospitable to viral attachment. Hydroxychloroquine is also a zinc ionophore (so is quercetin). Both make the cell more permeable to zinc. When the zinc is inside the cell, instead of in the extracellular space, and the spike protein is able to penetrate the cell and inject its RNA, the zinc damages the RNA of the virus which keeps it from being able to clone itself over and over, using your cells as the host. I would love to see aerosolized administration of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, both have been tested in the past so they are safe. This would greatly reduce the dosage needed.

When taken orally, these drugs must be given in much higher doses to achieve adequate levels in the lungs. If a person inhales them, a much lower dose is needed. If this could be done for 4 days when a person tests pos, or right at the beginning of symptom onset, I think need for hospitilization would plummet. That would really bum out big pharma...but who cares.

I survived a critical covid19 infection at home with cpap, home oxygen, (no way I was going on the vent) Proning (laying on belly 16 hours a day to improve oxygenation,, 10,000 IU k2d2, 25mg zinc glycinate 2x a day, intramuscular vitamin c infections, 750mg daily, Melatonin (wonderful antiviral effects in the lungs, also decreases inflammatory cytokines and balances immune response, sub q injection of thymosin alpha 1, 200mg hydroxychloroquine 2x day day 1, 500mg azithromycin day 1, 25 mg zinc 2x day. Days 4-6 200mg hydroxychloroquine 1x day. 250 mg azithromycin. I got a critical infection because of a history of multiple intubations related to a rare type of eosinophilic asthma.

Hope this helps .

Note-If I got sick today I wouldn't be able to get azithromycin or hydroxychloroquine thanks to our governor and the fact that it now seems in addition to being governor, he also identifies as a medical doctor. Makes me so mad....Anyway, I would use quercetin in place of hydroxychloroquine as well as luteolin. I would do inhaled glutathione and maybe inhaled 3% hydrogen peroxide diluted 1:1 with normal saline.


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Posted by Tyler Vincent (Canyon BC) on 04/12/2020
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I made a video on the following topic, but I cover even more in the text below, so please read carefully: https://youtu.be/EBepTGQ-sAE I recommend twice daily; 1-2 TBSP cocoa, 1-2 tsp cinnamon, [anti viral] 4-5 cloves, [anti viral] 2-3 star anise, [anti viral], 1 tsp of licorice root [deactivates covid19 https://bit.ly/2XoGsuC]. 1 tbsp honey and 1 tsp molasses. [Anti-Anemia. Covid19 causes Anemia via beta-1 chain hemoglobin antagonism, src: https://bit.ly/2RvbxZP] 2/3'rs TSP of Himalayan pink salt [84 trace minerals] 1-2 capsules of EGCG if you have it, or use green tea steeped water for your cocoa liquid. Massively helpful for my covid19 infection. Cocoa, excellent to help keep you healthy during the pandemic! especially if you are infected Health benefits of cocoa include relief from high blood pressure [covid affects blood pressure], cholesterol, obesity, constipation, diabetes, bronchial asthma, [covid attacks lung] chronic fatigue syndrome, [covid causes this, via beta-1 chain hemoglobin anemia] and various neurodegenerative diseases. It helps reduce the risk of cancer and improve cardiovascular as well as brain health. [89% chance covid attacks brain and brainstem like SARS] https://bit.ly/2XsdTwr It also helps in treating copper deficiency, quick wound healing, and skincare. [covid harms lungs, and other organs, quick healing is critical] It has mood-enhancing properties and exerts protective effects against neurotoxicity! [covid attacks the central nervous system and can be depressing] Natural Treatment of Anemia thanks to copper content, at the same time, cocoa is able to improve the hemoglobin level. [corona causes anemia, attacks hemoglobin]. Zinc, present in it, helps protect you against oxidative stress and viruses. Stimulates the production of nitric oxide, which helps keep blood vessels relaxed and reduced SARS viral replication by 82%, src https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC544093/ In this paper we present data supporting the hypothesis that [cocoa] flavanols could define superoxide anion production and then, establish optimal nitric oxide levels and blood pressure. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3022066/ Theobromine, found in cocoa is similar to caffeine and may help with persistent coughing. Cocoa powder contains about 1.9 grams of this compound per 100 grams or 3.75 ounces. Theobromine dilates constricted blood vessels, which means it could have therapeutic use in treating high blood pressure. Several studies suggest evidence of Theobromine results in mood calming, mood improvement and cognitive enhancement. Theobromine Has Potential Anti-Inflammatory Properties, Additionally, the compound seems to decrease C-reactive protein (CRP) and circulating levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines https://www.nutritionadvance.com/theobromine-benefits/ Theophylline, found in cocoa, helps your lungs dilate, your airways relax and decreases inflammation https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/cocoa-powder-nutrition-benefits#section9 Spleen lymphocyte function modulated by a cocoa-enriched diet https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2219332/ The richest cocoa diet (10%) caused a reduction of TNF-α secretion by peritoneal macrophages showing anti-inflammatory activity. Similarly, although a 10% cocoa diet increased lymphocyte proliferation rate, it down-regulated T helper 2 (Th2)-related cytokines and decreased Ig secretion. These changes were accompanied by an increase in spleen B cell proportion and a decrease in Th cell percentage. In summary, these results demonstrate the functional activity of a cocoa-high dosage in down-regulating the immune response that might be beneficial in hypersensitivity and autoimmunity. Its the cytokine storms, inflammation and anemia that kills people. Research the fact molasses and honey are a great treatment for Anemia, as is spirulina and cocoa.

Replied by G. Baker
(U.S.)
04/27/2020

I concocted my own anti-inflammatory tea a few years ago with black cocoa powder, ginger, turmeric, cayenne pepper, dash of black pepper and cinnamon. A cup in the morning and one in the evening and I do quite well. Even strenuous exercise, that should cause muscle pain, is not a problem. And hey, I get my daily chocolate!

Tyler Vincent
(Canyon BC)
04/15/2020

Why you should add cloves to your cocoa: Cloves are 'best' natural antioxidant, Spanish study finds: "Out of the five antioxidant properties tested, cloves had the highest capacity to give off hydrogen, reduced lipid peroxidation well, and was the best iron reducer". Read: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100316124231.htm Reactive iron is dropped into the blood when Covid19 attack's attacks hemoglobin, exacerbating ARDS... and causing liver problems. Cloves protect you against that. This is why anti-oxidants are so important for covid19, this M.D explains what the Iron Liver problem, and what is really going on here: https://youtu.be/eQuN5FtVAVA?t=1036

Dano
(Idaho)
02/06/2021

That is a good recipe. Thanks for the tip.


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Posted by MiSt (Midgard) on 03/24/2020 9 posts
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Here is what I have done for myself and other subjects who have a virus (cold, flu, aka corona viruses, etc). ]

This works within 24-48 hours in people with normal immune systems, possibly longer in immunocompromised people. This works best when you start doing it at the first signs of illness but works if you are already sick too. I was sick recently during this whole Covid-19/Corona virus thing, as was two family members. I felt super tired, really cold in my warm house, throat tickled, sneezed a bit, loose bowls a bit, and it felt like it was hard to catch my breath just laying still (I don't have asthma). I/we didn't get tested because the tests were impossible to get here if you weren't dying in a hospital or something. I/we started the below protocol at noon one day, felt better by midnight, felt perfectly normal by noon the next day. I've done the below protocol when I have had flu in the past and it was about 24 hour recovery time for me every time.

Other family members have responded in about the same time frame. Government agencies and pharmaceutical companies are ONLY interested in making a profit, NOT people's lives or their health and safety or quality of life. If you wait for them and their toxic medicines/vaccines to be “invented” and patented, then you or a loved one will probably be dead by then. Feel free to share the below protocol world wide for free and let's get rid of this virus and others and get healthy and back to our normal lives!

MiSt's protocol:

  • 10-15 drops of Turpentine in water every 12 hours.
  • 5 drops of 5000iu D3 very 12 hours and 15-30 of sunlight a day at minimum if possible.
  • 10-15 drops of Castor Oil every 12 hour.
  • 1 tsp Coconut Oil. .5ml of liquid zinc/copper (label says it contains zinc sulfate 50mg/copper sulfate 2mg per each 1.25ml dropper full).
  • 1 Tbsp Vinegar every 12 hours.
  • 5 grams (5000mg) of C (Ascorbic Acid) every 12 hours.
  • 3 Oregano Oil liquid gel caps every 8 hours (label says 150mg and it contains 7mg of Cavacrol).
  • .5 ml of 500ppm Colloidial Silver Olive leaf extract if I can find it.
  • Warm Dandelion tea with xylitol/stevia (both sweeteners kill pathogens somewhat) as desired.

Avoid all sugars, carbs and dairy while on protocol and for a few days or a week afterward.

Good luck and good health!

Replied by Dano
(Idaho)
02/06/2021

I would like to add that the turpentine used should always be from 100% gum spirits, either pine or balsam fir trees. Many turpentine suppliers use the much cheaper petroleum derivative, which needs to be avoided like a poison is. The pure natural turpentine is available from a company called Diamond G Forest Products. I am sure there are others as well, but this is a brand I have used for years. It is entirely derived from pine trees and can be used internally with proper precautions of course.


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Posted by John K (EC Facebook) on 03/14/2020
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My revised list for your services....thank you for sharing... I hope your doing your homework on building a strong immune system.... I survived my own bout with viral meningitis from ASIA which I treated myself an I'm perfectly healthy today....it took alot of resilience and learning what is the body its requirements food as medicine and sticking to it...

This brings us to optimum treatment: Include the following herbs and foods in your diet to protect you from COVID-19: 1. cut out sugar so your white blood cells dont confuse glucose for vitamin C ...Sugar reduces immune system. 2..most important!! probiotics prebiotics colostrum and capryl acid. ..create an immune 3. feed your immune - complex carbs cabbage and cauliflower zucchini broccoli 4..choose food for these categories....antioxidants antiimflamitories omega3 oliec acids multiple vitamins. A K C D 5. detox spirilina moringa ginger chorella.... 6. red algae, colloidal silver, olive leaf extract, Zinc The herbal remedies that are suggested destroy the 3CL and thus protect the cell's ability to protect itself against the coronavirus. The best for destroying 3CL is quercetin and epigallocatechin gallate which are found in green tea. These anti-3CL substances are also found in: flax seed citrus peel orange peel oregano garlic ginger elderberry turmeric Essential Oils to protect you from COVID-19: most important essential oils, which were key for prevention and healing during the bubonic plague are: eucalyptus clove grapefruit cinnamon tea tree lemon grass frankincense China says it attaches like Hiv-1. . Olive leaf extract is most efficient in fighting off HIV retrovirus when it is composed of at least 20 percent oleuropein and taken regularly at a 750-milligram dosage along with a well-balanced diet to help nourish and detoxify the body. While the results of olive leaf extract can vary based on the stages of HIV infection, it has been a proven inhibitor when used correctly. Gigartina - The rare Gigartina strain of Red Marine Algae is the richest known source of sulfated polysaccharides. Sulfated polysaccharides are unique protein-bound carbohydrates that stimulate anti-tumor agents and interferon production which improves the activity of T- and B-cells that support the body's immune response to bacteria, viruses, fungi and toxins. Interferon is an anti-viral protein that prevents the replication of virus. Human clinical trials recorded in the National Institutes of Health database indicate the sulfated polysaccharides in Gigartina may help counter oral and genital herpes, shingles, HIV, influenza, and other viruses. Regular intake may reduce the number of viral attacks and their severity. Add these into your overall prevention system. The key concept is prevention. Be well!

Replied by Pam E.
(Southern California)
03/15/2020
28 posts

When you say: "The best for destroying 3CL is quercetin and epigallocatechin gallate which are found in green tea. These anti-3CL substances are also found in: citrus peel; orange peel," are you specifically referring to the colorful outer skins, the white inner part, or, both???


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Posted by Dr. Robb (EC Facebook) on 02/28/2020
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Off the top of my head. Biocidin, high dose Vit. C. Thymus gland extracts, medicinal mushrooms, oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, elderberry, Probiotics, SmartSilver by Desbio, colloidal silver from Silver Wings,Immuplex and Epimune complex from Standard Process, Viral homeopathics, Super green foods , Cell Food, Vit D high dose, chiropractic to stimulate the autonomic nervous system ( not back pain), frequency based cold laser, PEMF, Humic/fulvic acid, Oscilliocoxcinum, Coconut oil, no dairy wheat corn soy SUGAR, Various herbals, probiotic suppositories, And....... Please repost, copy and paste etc. Dr Robb Anderson.

Replied by Dr Robb
(EC Facebook)
02/28/2020

We use D3 with K2. Laying in bed writing that post I wasn't striving for the most accurate and complete verbiage. Good point. And love the colostrum.


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Posted by Linda P. (EC Facebook) on 02/28/2020
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Sodium ascorbate, zinc, and Lysine taken daily as a preventative. Use Purell after pumping gas, and after leaving any public place. Wash hands often. Manuka honey from NZ is excellent to take daily.


NAC

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Posted by Sanjoo (Ahmedabad) on 11/22/2020
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Recently I was reading about role of NAC as a mucolytic agent for cough & cold, and learned that:

  • NAC is also a good antioxidant,
  • that it can prevent cytokine storm & inflammation,
  • additionally, it also can break down the clots or prevent them from forming which is the biggest danger of covid19.
  • NAC replenishes glutathione stores and helps reduce the viral load.
  • high dose IV NAC is also reported to have had good results for seriously ill patients.

so I feel, NAC must be included as standard of care for covid patients along with vit c, d3, zinc & b complex supplements etc.

Replied by sharon
(Missouri)
11/24/2020
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Warning:

Some people are sensitive to NAC, and it will raise the blood pressure in their lungs, make them feel breathless and raise their heart rate. So if you're taking NAC and experience shortness of breath and pounding heartbeat, it's the NAC.

I am very allergic to NAC. I also started taking niacinamide (250mg) and had the same symptoms. After doing some research online, I found that niacinamide is the precursor to NAC. So I stopped taking the niacinamide.

Replied by Selena
(Ontario)
12/10/2020

How to take NAC ( N Acetyl Cysteine) - with food or away from food?

Thank you!

Replied by Tessa
(Okanagan)
12/10/2020

Hi Selena -

My bottle of N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) states to take it with a meal that contains protein.

The brand is AOR and each capsule is 500 mg. I take one with my evening meal (which always has protein in it). I also take it with Vitamin C (heard that Vitamin C enhances the effect).

I found this article online. I actually didn't know how many benefits there are to taking NAC. I'm using it as part of my Covid-19 arsenal.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/nac-benefits#TOC_TITLE_HDR_2

Best wishes.

Replied by Selena
(Ontario)
12/11/2020

Thank you so much for your prompt response!

All the best!


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Posted by Bill (Philippines) on 10/08/2020
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As some might know, I'm over 70 yo and I currently take high dose niacinamide twice a day at 500 mgs directly after meals. Why? Because it's one of my prime preventions/protections against Covid-19.

According to recent research from Arkansas Uni., if you take higher dose niacin or niacinamide every day, this will increase the strength of your immune system defense against all pathogens -- including viruses -- by 1000 times. That means that my own immune system is now at least on a par with any youngsters' immune system now.

I also use a teaspoon of turmeric + pepper + a tablespoon of coconut oil mixed together. I take this once or twice a day dissolved in my coffee and it isn't really any hardship at all. This is all about using a common-sense approach for anti-viral prevention.

I might've mentioned this before but I'm going to tell it again anyway.

3 or 4 months ago and over the mountains from where I live in the Cebu provinces, the prisoners in the Cebu city prisons were dying like flies from Covid-19 -- hundreds of deaths. It was truly awful. Then they started to feed the prisoners virgin coconut oil (kills the virus) with turmeric (stops inflammation, stops cytokine storms etc causing death) several times a day, every day. Because of that protocol the COVID-19 virus was completely suppressed and eliminated fairly quickly and every prisoner got well with a minimum of deaths.

This news was fully tracked and reported in all the local Cebu papers and on local TV. Now tell me -- raise your hands please -- does anyone out there reading this piece really think that we need a double blind placebo trial, which will probably cost upwards and beyond $200 million and take about six months to a year to complete, to actually prove that the turmeric and coconut oil remedy is completely safe, effective and WORKS WELL against Covid-19?

Now let's turn our attention to the drug cartel's greatest wish -- achieving fabulous wealth through WORLDWIDE VACCINE SALES.

Here is an article from the CDC:

https://www.nwpb.org/2020/09/14/a-covid-19-vaccine-may-be-only-50-effective-is-that-good-enough/

In that article, Dr Fauci even admits that the covid-19 vaccine will probably only be 50% effective. What does that mean? It means that for the 18/65 age group, out of 100 people that receive the COVID-19 vaccine, only 50 people will actually achieve immunity. And if you are 65 or over like me then that also means that only about 30% (30 out of 100 older people) will be able achieve immunity when they take the vaccine. Do those vaccine statistics -- from Dr Fauci -- make you or your family feel warm, cosy and well protected against Covid-19? Well does it??

I also did some digging into the ordinary flu vaccine statistics. What I found was that vaccine statistics vary a heck of alot. For instance when I checked the CDC ordinary flu yearly assessments for 2010 I found that the flu vaccine that year had an effective prevention rate of 60% for the 18/65 age group. But when I checked the 2018 CDC flu assessment the prevention rate was only 29% !! I mean, jeez, if they can't even get the common flu vaccine consistently right then what chance is there for ANY covid-19 vaccine succeeding??

And Dr Fauci also mentioned in that article that they would need a prevention rate of at least 75% to get rid of the covid-19 virus completely. That's another lie. The covid-19 vaccine would have to have at least a 98% prevention rate to stand any chance whatsoever of completely eliminating the covid-19 virus, any fool knows that.

And I haven't even mentioned all the dangerous adjuvants or additives that are so commonly used in vaccines these days -- like thimerosal(50% mercury), formaldehyde, aluminum, msg, antibiotics, polysorbate 80, egg protein, rogue nano-pathogens(like Guillain-Barre virus) etc, etc.

Replied by Art
(California)
10/09/2020
844 posts

Hi Bill,

In a sense, the PI seems more progressive in terms of willingness to try natural for Covid-19. In Manila, they are currently testing coconut oil in a Covid-19 trial and they are testing melatonin similarly. In the case of melatonin, they are testing it in 300 Covid-19 patients who also have Covid-19 pneumonia.

Here in the US, there are no such trials for natural substances. There are a couple of trials forming for melatonin, but nothing that I am aware of for coconut oil even though the effects of coconut oil constituents are scientifically well established, but mention of VCO here is almost nil.

Art

Replied by Bill
(Philippines)
10/09/2020

Hi Art,

Well said, you are right for sure. Yes, they have been carrying out research on melatonin and coconut oil in the Philippines. Some more information for you. You already know that my greatest fear is that the vaccines won't work to stop covid-19. Well, in March this year, there was some research in Iceland. They took swabs from 640 infected people and discovered 140 covid-19 mutations. More recently the WHO did some research where they tested 60,000 infected people and found that 20,000 covid-19 samples were mutations/new strains. More recently in the Philippines, Thai/Filipino researchers have been investigating new covid-19 viral strains and they have found 23 significant new strains or mutations of covid-19 in the Philippines alone.

Now please remember that all the current vaccines being developed -- which were started about 7 months ago -- have been developed using the OLD strain of covid-19. So those vaccines will be ineffective and useless against any significant new mutation of the covid-19 virus.

I've also read that two people in China have been re-infected with covid-19. One of these patients caught covid-19 in March this year and recovered. He then went to Europe and returned to China and when he was tested on his return he was re-infected with a new strain of covid-19.Will that new strain be in the vaccines? Also add to this -- please see my other post -- even Dr Fauci says that the best you can possibly hope for with the covid-19 vaccine is only a 50% protection rate(where only 50 people out of 100 people taking the vaccine actually achieve immunity) and you have a truly hopeless situation where you cannot ever get rid of the virus completely.

My greatest nightmare and worst fear is what will happen if all the covid-19 vaccines fail and the citizens in the US and the West suddenly come to realize that modern medicine's vaccine strategy has completely failed them against the covid-19 virus offering them no further hope of a cure??

And please don't forget that throughout all the 150 years of modern medicine's existence, allopathic medicine has never ever found a successful and consistent therapeutic treatment -- with a 98% cure rate -- for ANY viral disease.

We've already had riots all over the US for this that and the other. So what do you think is going to happen in the West if those vaccines fail and all the citizens suddenly realize that they have no real hope against covid-19?? How will those citizens react? Will they be angry? Who will they blame? And what do you think they will they do?

Replied by Bill
(Philippines)
10/09/2020

Hi Art,

I forgot to mention that I have also stocked up on melatonin as one of my backups. I will only use the melatonin(and aspirin/BHT) if and when either me or my wife become infected with covid-19.

Another useful treatment for covid-19 is a well known Chinese herbal remedy called Lianhua Qingwen(capsules) which is quite cheap to buy. I can buy it for pennies in the Philippines. This herbal mix is quite a strong remedy used for actually getting rid of fever and killing off the covid-19 virus. It contains strong antipyretics and antivirals such as Isatis root, Ephedra and Liqorice root. There are 13 herbal ingredients in Linhua Qingwen. All the hospitals in China have been successfully using this remedy for just the initial mild stages of the covid-19 infection -- it relieves fever, cough and fatigue. This remedy also seems to greatly accelerate the recovery time.

The Chinese TCM doctors also have several other herbal formulas for different stages or different problems that can arise during covid-19 infection -- one of which is called Huashi Baidu formula which was actually designed by the academic TCM team that originally went to Wuhan to battle covid-19. Believe it or not, I think that this formula is actually based on the 2000-year-old White Tiger remedy which is quite famous in China. This formula is also a strong remedy that can be used for any stage of covid-19 infection.

Just making the point that, right now, China does certainly have sophisticated and successful herbal formulas that can certainly stop/cure the covid-19 virus whereas the US and the West are still fumbling around with their vaccines that, IMHO, are all destined to fail.

Replied by Art
(California)
10/10/2020
844 posts

Hi Bill,

Once again you have cut right through the noise and honed in on many of the problems associated with the folly of a vaccine for Covid-19!

I said it before and will say it again, EC has more rational remedies for Covid-19 than all of the scientists have been able to put together! They limit themselves to mainly existing drugs with little if any thought to things like coconut oil or melatonin. Sometimes simple just works! Counting on a vaccine for a coronavirus seems highly unlikely since a vaccine for any coronavirus has never been able to be developed to date and rushing it to market is just begging for problems! How is the impossible suddenly possible? I am not going to be rushing out to try any Covid-19 vaccine myself.

Regarding what will happen if vaccines fail, the smart people will come to EC and find some good remedies while the uninformed will complain and go crazy and do who knows what. Ignoring the chances for vaccine failure or serious side effects seems mighty foolish to me, especially when they are trying to do it in 1/4th the time required for other vaccines.

Art

Replied by Art
(California)
10/10/2020

Hi Bill,

I just went on Amazon to search for Lianhua Qingwen.

Oddly, they show multiple listings for it, but when I click on any of those listings, the pages the links take me to have nothing like it on the page, very strange. I will have to look elsewhere, possibly on ebay. I am not aware of a TCM practitioner in my area as that might have been an option. Thank you for the new information, Bill!

Art

Replied by Bill
(Philippines)
10/10/2020

Hi Art,

You're right about searching for Lianhua Qingwen(LQ) capsules on Amazon. I couldn't find it on Amazon. This really doesn't surprise me since Jeff Bezos is known to support all the China-hate going around these days. I guess he thinks that Lianhua Qingwen capsules are a huge security risk for the US. Well go figure...

I've just searched for Lianhua Qingwen capsules on ebay and found it without any problems.

By the way, I forgot to mention that if you do buy Lianhua Qingwen capsules then please make sure it is "YILING" brand(full name of manufacturer: Shijiazhuang Yiling) which is the brand being used for covid-19 patients in all the Chinese hospitals.


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Posted by Cindy (Illinois, Usa) on 09/29/2020 226 posts
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Nicotine is being investigated for the purpose of using it against Covid-19. The reason is because smokers weren't getting it like non-smokers. In fact, they were shown to be 50% less likely to contract it.

The reason, they suspect, is because of nicotine, which is a micronutrient found in many vegetables and for which the body has an entire system for handling and distributing. The *same* pathways viruses use - but can't, if the receptors contain enough nicotine. Hence, I suspect, the smokers who weren't getting it didn't get it from breathing contaminated air. Which is just one way to get it. I suspect those who DID get it got it from food or skin contact or whatever because the receptors in the airways contained the nicotine but the pathways that would be used via ingestion and/or skin contact did not. In other words, smokers are still susceptible, just not via the singular pathway of the respiratory system.

I'd been looking at tobaccum because it was a very useful herb, prior to its demonization. It's primary use was for skin issues, including warts, moles, psoriasis etc.. Basically, anything having to do with the skin. And it was used by "natives" all over the world, for thousands of years.

SOO, anyway, I've been treating plantar warts on the bottom of my feet for several years now, trying various things, letting them come back and trying something different and so on. As a smoker, I make my own cigarettes so I have tobacco plus I switched to "Vaping" for a short period but it just plain did something horrible regarding dehydration. Dried me out something fierce. So I went back to smoking and I've smoked since I was 10 when I just "started smoking like an old man", my mom said, so that's 50 years but, anyway, given the use of tobaccum as an herb and the plantar warts I was growing back on my feet, I decided to try some old vaping "juice" I had leftover from when I was vaping on the warts.

Let me preface this next part by explaining that vape "juice" was initially available in several "strengths" AND kids were trying to use it to commit suicide but would end up just throwing up and being fine 2 hours after so, it's not deadly. Not by any means, as the amounts of nicotine they were ingesting were phenomenal. Could have probably cleared termites out of several houses as they were drinking it by the bottles which, by comparison, when you vape, you might vape the equivalent of a cigarette to the tune of 3 or 4 DROPS of the stuff. Nowhere NEAR the amount kids were drinking in an effort to kill themselves, so...anyway...

I only used it on my foot once, as it was before I'd learned it wasn't deadly after alll and feared poisoning myself. What happened is very interesting. The amount was probably somewhere around only 3 drops, altogether, but it did the exact same thing vaping did. The glycerin dried me PLUM out. Dry mouth, plain old crackly, dry discomfort and the whole bit but it ALSO - and this is the interesting part - it made me turn my nose up at cigarettes. For a couple of hours. Which I was TOTALLY not expecting. 3 drops? On the bottom of one foot? It was insane.

I probably got some on my hands and whatnot but I was shocked when I realized I was rolling a cigarette but had no desire to smoke it. Which had never happened before except when I was vaping.

They're testing nicotine now, for Covid. They're testing nicotine patches, gum, drops and all of the nicotine replacement products used to stop smoking.

I'd always known that the lung damage caused by smoking was smoke damage but I should have realized that the desire to control tobacco must have meant it had some true usefulness that would bite into the profits of some Fortune 500 vampire - and I was right. Just 2 or 3 weeks ago, there was no information whatsoever available on the internet, other than what was available as books scanned for the archive but today, a lot of old information is floating up to the surface where people can get their hands on it and it's definitely worth checking out.

Nicotine is a nutrient. And man has known this, at least, for as long as he's been naming body parts and it would seem that the only ones getting it - yet not enough - are smokers. It's entirely possible that it's not an addiction but merely a craving for a particular nutrient that is missing from the diet. Much like boron. The body simply needs it.

I'm not saying people should smoke as, apparently, it doesn't get distributed very well when inhaled but it could be added to lotion, soaps, used as a tincture or poultice - it's just a nutrient that happens to come in, among many other veggies, tobacco. Something people want and are more willing to pay for than grow for themselves. It's a profit center..and, apparently, everything the common man has been told about it is a lie. Yes it's poisonous - to BUGS - so is orange peel and a dozen or so other items that might be found in just about anybody's kitchen.

It's worth checking out. Even if only as a killer of viruses which are basically insects, as bacteria are basically plants. Many of the foods we eat are useful as insecticides and/or herbicides.

Replied by Orh
(Ten Mile , Tn)
09/30/2020

CINDY, ORH here, and impressed with this post and your knowledge of the tobacco herb. I still have the the worthless stock, Rock Creek Pharmaceuticals, after my ole Wi boss used their Ky tobacco supplement to treat his arthritis. It worked. It was so good that Big Pharma got after them with both feet. That included sending the Gov of Va and his wife to prison. BIG PHARMA makes the Mofia look like SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHERS. If you research the net, some will say to hold the worthless stock because the product worked. I know you are a knowledgeable person and hope you will keep posting on tobacco. Finally got back to using hemp, thanks to Trump. Maybe we will get back to tobacco. I loved smoking, but over did it, as all usually do. Camels unfiltered was the creme de la creme.

===ORH===

Replied by Cindy
(Illinois, Usa)
09/29/2020
226 posts

Addendum to my post:

I neglected to add that nicotine in a smoker doesn't appear to travel beyond the upper respiratory system - the airborne virus's entry point. Which would explain why smokers are ONLY 50% less likely to contract Covid-19, which I had, back in July, and had always known I'd ingested as I'd been busy and as "socially distant" as a body can get for almost 3 weeks prior.

I suspect I got it from the lettuce on a sandwich I'd gotten at the "Drive-thru" because I hadn't been to get groceries for almost a month and had finished off the last of the peanut butter the day before - it being the last "food" in the house as I had because I'd been putting off getting groceries because I was busy.


Nitric Oxide Boosters

2 User Reviews
5 star (2) 
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Posted by Trina Peterson (United States) on 04/21/2020
5 out of 5 stars

I have bought my son VIT C, D and olive leaf extract added nitric oxide boosters, beet root powder and L arginine, the latter only if he became ill. He works at Whole Foods as a grocery clerk. I found this very interesting as they are using Nitric Oxide to treat Covid cases. It blocks replication and it helps with oxygen absorption. A quote from MedPage Today.... "However, perhaps the most convincing role of nitric oxide in this disease is its antiviral properties. SARS-CoV-2 infects cells by attaching to a receptor on the lining of the airways called angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2). This is the same mechanism by which SAR-1 infects cells. NO specifically alters a surface protein on SARS-1, known as the spike protein, such that it cannot attach to the ACE2 receptor. This results in blocking viral entry into the cell as well as the subsequent replication of the virus. Since SARS-CoV-2 shares the same mechanism of cell entry, we can relatively confidently assume that NO would have a similar effect regarding this novel virus."

Replied by Rob S.
(U.S.A.)
05/03/2020
5 out of 5 stars

What are and where do you get these Nitric Oxide boosters ?

Replied by Volker
(Berlin (Germany))
06/26/2020

Regarding Arginine vs. Lysine see these 2 videos the user "Bo K." published on YT claiming how LYSINE helped him.
From what I understand, when you SUFFER FROM COVID-19 SYMPTOMs, you want to consume LYSINE in excess of Arginine. AND NOT DRINK COFFEE, as it prevents nitric oxide from being exhaled, prevents Arginine from normal consumption, both feeding the virus and cytokine storm.

DO'S & DON'TS of a SARS CoV2 survivor part1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfQXYq9kmf4

DO'S AND DON'TS of a symptomatic corona virus survivor, part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyyzokIJ_dI

best regards

Bo. K
(Dom Rep)
07/14/2020

There is one study I have heard of, stating NO is beneficial. I don't know how they are administering it. Possible that flooding the body with nitric oxide is beneficial.

DO NOT USE ARGININE TO PRODUCE NITRIC OXIDE. ARGININE will invite the virus in.

Other than flooding the body (throwing it out of balance maybe, I don't know for sure), either arginase/arginine conversion to nitric oxide may be the process that makes the cytokines inflammed. I will try to adress it in part 3.

If arginine, nitric oxide is healthy while with covid infection, none of my long haulers would get better when they quit coffee and excercise. While yes both are inflammatory, they both create excess arginine nitric oxide in the system.

FOR THE RECORD..... DON'T DRINK COFFEE OR EXERCISE for at least 3 weeks after returning back to normal with no symptoms or pills. You severely increase your chances of being a long hauler.


Olive Leaf Extract + Alkalize

Posted by Craig W. (EC Facebook) on 02/28/2020

Olive leaf extract helps the body shed viruses and I drink fresh lemon juice, ACV and fresh ground ginger root in water. 😉🤗


Potato Soup

3 User Reviews
5 star (3) 
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Posted by Cindy (Illinois, USA) on 04/05/2020 226 posts
5 out of 5 stars

Another note on the virus' aftermath - namely, the ongoing and unproductive coughing. I did not have the virus go down into my chest but it has been sitting, solid as a rock, in the back of my sinuses just above my throat. Nothing I tried would break it up. Not cayenne, not ACV, not vitamin C, not tea, lemon honey or steam - UNTIL - It occurred to me that the most comforting thing I can remember from when I was sick, as a child, was potato soup. Homemade potato soup. NON-CREAMED potato soup. There were two aspects of the "Irish" potato/onion soup my mom made. First, was the onion. Lost of onion. However much potatoes you used, you used half that amount of onion. Lots of onion. Which is, I suppose, a superfood but that's not the best part. The best part was the black pepper. Lots of salt and black pepper, together with the onion, would break up whatever congestion one had "stuck". I still haven't been out of the house so I have neither potatoes nor onions but I made a cup of sea salt and black pepper tea - NOT TO DRINK but, rather, to inhale. And it worked a treat!!works! The common, lingering cough leftover after a regular cold/flu respiratory virus during "the season" and it's breaking up. Almost instantly. I'm still going to make the soup which is as follows: 1 lb potatoes, chopped for boiling red onion (red for respiratory) - enough to make up half again as much potato Boil the potatoes and 1/4 of the onion in 4 cups of water until completely done and falling apart While the potatoes and onion are cooking, put 3 TBS of butter in a skillet and sautee the remaining onion until it is soft and mashable. Mash and whisk the fully cooked potatoes, onion and the water in which you've cooked them into liquid. Add the sauteed onion and butter to the mix and stir while reheating it all together. Whether you drink it from a mug or eat it with saltines, salt and pepper it to "tasty" before you eat it, mixing well after adding the salt and pepper. You want a spike of black pepper - ground or freshly ground, it doesn't seem to matter - that will make your nose run which is exactly what you want. Once it is breaking up, you can hit it with your vitamin C or whatever you're using to kill the virus because the "armor" of that viral congestion is broken down by the black pepper. You don't have to actually make soup - apparently, you can simply inhale a hheavy black pepper tea - but I can tell you that there is NOTHING more awesome than hot, buttery potato onion soup with lots of salt and pepper when you're sick. NOTHING! And I am SOOOOO glad to have that sinus "brick" broken up and the idea of not having that lingering, annoying/insane-driving, non-productive cough!

Replied by Margeaux
(Los Angeles, Ca)
04/11/2020
5 out of 5 stars

Cindy, This is what an elderly woman who had pretty much been written off since she'd been hospitalized and given the most dramatic treatments for the virus ate... potato soup! It literally revived her. She's home now recuperating. Well potatoes are vitamin c, the onions have quercetin, &the pepper definitely breaks up the congestion. Happy healing! Margeaux

Cindy
(Illinois, USA)
04/05/2020
226 posts
5 out of 5 stars

One note - keep the soup this simple. It's not "food", in this instance. It's "medicine" so don't even try to "improve" it. If it needs more butter for the onion, increase the butter or add a little olive oil. If it needs a little more water while the potatoes and onion are cooking down, add some - but not too much because that's the "soup" part. DO NOT DRAIN OFF THE WATER - that's your "soup base". Just mix it all together.

Replied by Miss M
(New York)
06/27/2020

I am glad to hear that someone else had these symptoms. I have had a dry cough at the top of my lungs and throat for four months after Covid!! I just started this drink and it helped reduce cough symptoms 90 per cent!

I cannot do the soup as potatoes are not my friends.

  • ACV two tablespoons
  • Fresh ginger large knob peeled
  • lemon juice two tablespoons
  • cayenne pepper as much as you can muster
  • honey to taste
  • water 16 ounces

Blend and drink multiple times a day.

Replied by Cindy
(Illinois, Usa)
06/30/2020
226 posts

Ah! Cayenne! Love me some cayenne. It always provides a boost and I've been playing with lower doses. I was using a teaspoon in a shot of water but 1/4 teaspoon seems to have the same effect but without the drama. If it's a remedy for something, I would say thhat 1/4 teaspoon should probably stop the problem from progressing so one could more "gently" resolve the issue as opposed to hitting it on the head with the sledgehammer of a whole teaspoon of 300k heating units, all at once. LOL! That's gotta be a shock to the system. Even if it does turn out to be a "good" shock, I don't think shocking the system is prudent. Unless there's something equally dramatic going on like hemorrhaging or a heart attack.

Of course, sometimes the drama is fun.



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