I am just randomly addressing everything I can in no particular order here so it may sound totally unorganized (which it is)....Re: Yeast Infections and BV.: Caprylic Acid supplements can be taken to help get rid of yeast infections. But, they merely scrub the intestines which then take the very thing out you are trying to keep in your intestines being: good gut flora and the new probiotic flora you spent so much money buying to take to keep in your gut in the first place.
Caprylic Acid supplements together along with fiber (orally, which is fine-look up to see how to take this properly re: dosages) should only be taken maybe 1 time a year or once every half a year because again, they scrub the inside of the intestines clean of the yeast but also of the good gut flora too. I cannot tell you the relief I felt, when I used this method to get rid of a yeast infection. Do not forget, you are dealing with an ACID like boric ACID so no matter what anyone says, these acids can wear down the areas in varying ways as you use them to resolve your issues. Lastly, there are no studies on how long to take boric acid for anyone (internally) for bacterial vaginitis and or 2 of the harder to get rid of kinds of yeast infections. NO ONE knows All of the long term effects and no one knows what "long term" means either in terms of taking it time wise.
If you do take boric acid pills (you can make your own) internally-NEVER ORALLY, you have to absolutely make sure you do not have ANY sores, scrapes or cuts of any kind in and around the vaginal areas (both outside and inside). If you do take them, do not breathe in the boric acid while filling up the pills, if you do allow the boric acid to touch your skin, not too worry, simply wash off with COLD water NOT HOT (less chance of absorption anywhere if cold water used to wash off) and lastly you can use an insert tool that is used for miconizole or other related products along with a little of the product itself inside the tool used to slide the pills into the vaginal area. Now, you can use raw garlic cloves AFTER or BEFORE you use the boric acid pills in the vagina NEVER AT THE SAME TIME!
Raw garlic cloves (cut off both ends to make ends soft for insertion into the vaginal area w/a bit of non-scented lotion) can kill all yeast infections if used properly. when inserting raw garlic cloves into the vagina, make sure you prepare the raw clove without the hard sharp ends and take the shell off for maximum exposure to the clove. Do NOT push the clove far up into the vagina. Put it just inside and past the lips of the vagina so you can push it out if need be or "pee" it out when ready. you can leave it in there for a half hour or 45 minutes if you wish. leave it as long as you feel comfortable with it but never more than 45 minutes at a time and you can do this 3 times a day but do not over use this method. it is considered "heat" (chinese medicine philosophy) and can make it harder on your liver and intestines if over exposed to raw cloves repeatedly all day for weeks, months, years. just use them sparingly (figure out your usage, its different for everyone) and know its all about DOSAGE. Everything has to do with the amount of what you take! Doesn't matter what it is, even food you eat. if you over eat, you can hurt your body. if you drop too much hot water for too long on your skin, you'll get burned-you get the idea. so it is the same with boric acid and raw garlic cloves. because you will be in the vaginal area so much and repeatedly for an unknown amount of time due to B.V. and yeast issues; it only behooves a girl to be as careful and delicate as possible when making contact with the vaginal area. this is so it (your vagina) can take the medicines you give it without getting toxic doses of whatever it is you are taking.
Stop using: scented pads, scented lotions, scented soaps. just use water (yes that's what I said) to clean the vaginal area. The anus area use non scented soaps. Stop using perfume around the abdomen area. Stop using scents of any kind and also actually consider stopping sex for as long as you feel you are able to --to allow your body the ph balance and healing it needs to get better. your body is your temple, stop your temporary needs for once so you can permanently get better.
DO NOT: wipe the boric acid coming out of your vaginal area all day into the anus area! If you read up on the anus area, you will see it can absorb very well and it is unknown what the effects are if the anus area is wiped over with left over boric acid from the vaginal area. so, as the boric acid comes out from the vaginal area whether it be through urinating or into a pad, just ensure when you do clean yourself up from the boric, you wipe the vagina and the anus separately.
Here are some other things to look up to help with super chronic B.V. issues: homeopathic remedies, folic acid supplement, ph water to drink, paul pitchfords book Healing w/whole foods re: an astringent diet vs. dealing with dampness in the body which will eternally allow B.V. to take place in the body no matter what you take medicine wise including probiotics. Dampness (chinese medicine term) keeps B.V. living in the body so try out as an astringent a diet as possible through research on the web and pitchford's book which is only like 20 bucks to change your life for the better permanently.
Also, you must drink lots of fluids (not soda! ) WITH electrolytes, or you'll flush electrolytes right out of your system and cause much worse issues than you can possibly imagine. How do you know if you are drinking just enough fluids? If your urine has a super light yellow tint to it. Look up how much water you should be drinking according to your body weight and add Himalayan pink salt along with a bit of concentrated non-sugared cranberry juice (add stevia) to avoid bladder infections while dealing with B.V. and Y.I.'s. You can get all of these items (pink salt, concentrated cranberry juice and liquid stevia) at vitacost btw. Whatever you do, do not ever eat or drink caffeine related items or be prepared to deal with B.V. and Y.I. for the rest of your life. Now, if you have had caffeine while doing boric acid treatments and got rid of it, than the only reason you did is because you did not have the worst case scenario of B.V. It means you had a stronger immune system, more gut flora and probably a lot stronger system all around than all of us dealing with chronic B.V.
Re: homeopathic remedies; if you do find out what items to buy do buy them online because if you just walk into any store to buy a homeopathic remedy chances are, you are buying the lowest doses offered on the market. if you go online to buy these remedies, you will find the highest doses possible for the lower prices and you will be able to do research on just how much to take. because w/homeopathic remedies, it is all about dosage, diet and avoiding certain things while taking these curative items.
If you REALLY want to get rid of the B.V. and all the different types of yeast infections follow an astringent diet, do as much research as possible on everything I mentioned here including stuff you find out on your own and share it all with us because we want to know too! I purposely wrote everything I could possibly think of here so folks could read what they want, and have "too much info" to go do research to better their lives to get rid of B.V. once and for all.
If anyone has any questions, I will do my best to answer them in as timely a manner as possible.
Slessings, ~ Miss Joie
Boric acid worked for me in killing bv. I waited 3 months to blog because I wanted to be sure and yes I'm sure. I've had bv since may 2013. It was chronic. Very chronic. I tried all the antibiotics from my Dr's and it would only last for a few weeks and here comes bv again. I started reading up on bv. The more I read the more I learned. The problem is tht darn biofilm. It must be broken. It's a film that protects and covers the bacteria from antibiotics. Thts why it can come right back. It's laughing at the antibiotics. Boric acid is all I know as of right now tht will kill it. I don't know why Dr's don't tell us this, then again I can speculate as to why they dont. I ordered boric acid suppositories online. $25.00..best money I ever spent. Please ladies if you want to rid this please try.
I did have a super stressful event which caused this I believe. Plus I had the flu and a staph infection so everything in my body was shot 3 months ago. I am at the end of my rope. The dr has me taking flagyl twice a day for 7 days. I have 3 more days. And for the next 6 weeks he said for me to take the boric acid 300 mg twice a week at bedtime. On the days I don't do the boric acid I am once a week to do the gel stuff. I have literally tried it all and to read that I'm not alone has saved me. I promised if I ever found a cure for me I would share. I have hope that Boric Acid will be that savior. I will write again as I know for sure. Thanks for all who have shared
Hi Natasha. I'm on my 2d Boric Acid treatment. I noticed that I do have itchiness all over my body too. I also noticed the discharge they were talking about while using BA inserts. It's kind of uncomfortable ( I didn't have any discharge nor foul smell) since when my liner will get wet, that area will get so itchy and feels like ants walking around it - makes it soooo itchy. A bit of relief when I change my undies and liner. But I have to do it a lot of times. Good thing I'm not working at the moment. But I don't know how it will be possible when we're out there in public. So, you're not alone in feeling itchy over your body while using this. Just make sure to watch out for it - maybe you have some allergic reaction starting there. I'm also trying to monitor it myself. Good luck.
Hi Boric Acid is a Lifesaver for me.....I'm just curious if you tried having sex while on Boric acid? Cause my doctor told me to just use condoms. Is there anyone who did have an experience while on Boric Acid treatment? Seems like majority maintains the use of Boric Acid once tried so any response to this will be greatly appreciated.
Also, if you did have BV and had contact with your partner, its better to have your partner treated as well. Men will get the BV from you too so if not treated, it will obviously be a vicious cycle. I just started the treatment last night (3/8/16) after trying Metronidazole for a week then Clindamycin cream. Mine went right after taking Metronidazole but itch came back after the 7th day. My symptoms is only itch on the outside around not 'there' then which is very different from everyone elses symptoms and I don't have a discharge nor odor - and I don't want to acquire those either. Itchiness itself drives me nuts and I got sore due to scratching. I'm taking probiotics and eat home made yogurt daily. Can't see any improvement yet injecting this to my diet but hoping for the best.
I've had yeast infections and BV off and on for a few years now. I have been to the doctor a few times for it and taken antibiotics and over the counter pharmaceuticals. Boric acid has worked for me although I don't know that I would recommend using it daily for an extended period of time because studies have not been done on long term effects.
Another thing I have used for BV and yeast infections are what I like to call "p---y pops". You freeze some yogurt in plastic wrap (generally the shape of a tampon, but don't make them too large, I have experienced a vaginal freeze and it's not that fun) and then when it's frozen you stick it up there and let it thaw. The cold sooths any itch and burning and yogurt has acidophilous and other probiotics that can help bring the balance back too. It has to be real, unpasteurized, live culture, plain yogurt, none of that yoplait crap.
While there are cases of yeast infections and bv where there is a foreign species at play, almost always, the problem is caused by the good, natural yeast and bacteria that you WANT inside your body. The problem occurs when the environment changes and the ratios of yeast to bacteria get out of wack. Too much bacteria is BV and too much yeast is a yeast infection. The most common cause of this imbalance is a change in pH. Your vagina is supposed to be acidic. Probably why the boric acid helps with BV. I have also read a scientific study testing it against unnatural yeast strain infections as well(found effective).
Boric acid is a great, cheap, at home remedy. But remember boric acid is poison if ingested orally so make sure you you keep those capsules well labelled and out of reach of children.
I hope you're still monitoring this post! Can you please let me know which lubrication you use? I'm so afraid to use any lube because I don't want it to bring on a BV infection. I've been suffering with BV for about 20 years -- whenever I'm sexually active; but now that I'm in my mid-40's I get a BV infection with every period. I'm absolutely at my wit's end. I just started the boric acid last night. I'm keeping my fingers crossed! Thank you.
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I had my first case of BV in July 2015. I was treated with Clindamycin 500 mg twice daily oral antibiotic for 7 days. I had a recurring case in August and was treated with Metronidazole 500 mg once daily oral antibiotic for 7 days. I had a recurring case in September and was treated with Clindamycin 500 mg twice daily oral antibiotic for 7 days. I had a recurring case in October and was treated with Metronidazole 5 g once daily at bedtime for 5 days.
At this point I was becoming desperate and becoming worried about the constant exposure to antibiotics so I took to the internet for a cure. Boric acid seemed to have the best reputation so I started researching the primary literature and clinical trial reports - limited as they were!
Following my October case of BV, I began my boric acid regimen. I bought size 0 gelatin capsules online and purchased boric acid from the pharmacist at Walgreens. (roughly $25 for 1000 capsules and 1 kg of boric acid) Given my research, I had come to suspect that I had developed a bacterial biofilm that was preventing the antibiotics from effectively reaching and killing off the bacteria- causing a rebound every few weeks. I decided on the following regimen: one size 0 capsule filled with boric acid powder inserted into the vagina at bedtime for 1 week, followed by Metronidazole 5 g once daily at bedtime for 5 days (I had half the tube left over from my earlier case). My reasoning was that breaking up the biofilm using boric acid would allow the antibiotics to sweep in and effectively clear the infection. Since this time (roughly 12 weeks) I have been using one size 0 boric acid vaginal suppository a week and one size 0 boric acid vaginal suppository every day of my period as a preventative measure. This regimen worked for me. I have had zero recurrences!
1) Try to find clear or white gel capsules. I got ones with blue caps and woke up with what looked like a smurf homicide in my underwear.
2) During my five day boric acid regimen I had some pretty significant vaginal bleeding during intercourse. There was no pain or discomfort associated with the bleeding so it was a bit surprising. I suspect the boric acid strips some of the protective mucous from the vaginal walls making it more prone to tearing.
-one size 0 boric acid vaginal suppository daily for 7 days; followed by,
-Metronidazole 5 g once daily for 5 days; followed by,
-one size 0 boric acid vaginal suppository once weekly AND one size 0 boric acid vaginal suppository every day of menstrual bleeding as preventative treatment.
You can purchase boric acid on Amazon really cheap and also the empty gel capsules. I've been doing it for a year now off and on and it's been great! I only spent about $20. Good luck to you!
I went to my GYN this morning...I have been battling this since before Thanksgiving...one dose of Flagyl 2000mg at one time...then, seven days and followed up with a cream for yeast infection...I am EXHAUSTED both mentally and physically...this is horrible....
During my visit today she did an exam and also looked under the microscope. She truly thinks that it is the PH balance. She did send out cultures to be sure that there is no STD...I am now sitting on pins and needles until I get hose results in a week. So, I have to endure this situation with no treatment for another week. I will be awaiting the results.
She suggested boric acid suppositories to regulate the PH level...I am super nervous and worried. She assure me that her findings do not indicate any type of STD....please give me more info on this boric acid treatment. She stated that I might have to do this for a month or two. I will have to go to a pharmacy that works with compounds....sounds expensive.
Can anyone please tell me what they felt like before using them...I am frantic and almost out of my mind waiting for results.
I have had BV for years. It used to flare up only after sex or around period time. It's getting worse - I'm 45 and can't keep it away. I think it is also causing a great deal of urinary irritation (my theory, not proven) because when the bv flares up I have frquent urination ans some burning but no UTI.
Boric acid used to always help and now its not as effective. I am going to try the yogurt and peroxide. This is nuts! I also buy high quality probiotics for women and that doesn't help! Lastly, I saw one comment that said seafood makes it worse. I've noticed the same thing. How ironic because they both smell fishy.
Peroxide won't change the pH, but it will kill off bacteria (all sorts). Boric acid lowers the pH, which will kill some bacteria but mostly allows the environment to select for bacteria that should be there/can withstand a lower pH. They are both supposed to be effective for BV, and some people use acidophilus vaginal suppositories after treatment to inoculate their vaginas with "good" bacteria that maintain the pH low enough that the stinky stuff can't grow.
So here's my story....it all started when I took birth control for the first time ever.. I took it for maybe 15 days and got my first uti ever, so I am a superstitious person and thought it was from the bc. therefore I stopped right then and there. then I got a yeast infection from the uti medication. and from then its been hell.....i went from yeast to bv straight for almost 9 months now.. without a break.. all that's been on my mind is my vagina.. it makes me so depressed and self conscious that all I do is wear sweatpants. got rid of all my jeans. I just hate this.. I wish nobody would ever have to go through this. I feel like I'm the only person in the world until I read these forums posted by other people going through the same thing. I really pray to god that we all get cured. because NOBODY should ever have to go through this. I wouldn't even wish it on my worst enemy.. this is a complete nightmare. it truly is.... I pray these boric acid capsules work. because I am at my wits end....i just cannot deal with this anymore.........i just pray this works......
Hi! I've been suffering on and off with yeast infections and BV for about a year now. Its been one of the hardest things I've ever had to deal with. I would either get prescribed diflucan/monistat for yeast and metrogel/tindamax for BV. When I first started having the infections the medications helped, but for the last 6 months or so, the medication would only work until I would stop taking it then I'd feel off again down there. Having sex irritated it even more. My doctor prescribed boric acid suppositories ( I think its 600mg) every other night for a month while taking a probiotic and no unprotected sex. I just started last week. The next morning after my first dose, the odor and itch was gone. Discharge went away by the second dose (except for the discharge from the boric acid of course). I'm waiting to see what will happen once I do have sex again, or when the month is up and I'm no longer taking the boric acid. I will try to give an update to see if this will work for me long term.
This stuff works! I have been suffering with BV for the past 4 years. It started when I took antibiotics after a staff infection. I also had been using Summers's Eve Douche "really bad idea" I went to the Obgyn so many times and they gave me MetroGel and another medication, I forget the names. Either way they only worked till I started my cycle again or had sex and usually it came back even stronger. I tried every home remedy in the book nothing helped. I did have some success with hydrogen peroxide douches but it never really lasted to long. Then I found out about Boric acid and it changed everything for me. At first it really was not working so well but I think that because I was not doing a full treatment. I would do 3 days on and then take a break. Then as soon as I had sex or had my cycle the BV came back. So I took a break from sex for 10 days and put one capsule in every night at bed time. I also started taking probiotic and folic acid every day. After that I have had little to no issues. I still get a little stinky down there before my cycle and after so I usually use for one or two days after its over. Also sometimes after sex. My boyfriend is not circumcised so that can mess up my system sometimes. But all in all I don't have many issues. I really recommend this to anyone suffering from BV.
I have been struggling with BV for about a year now and the boric acid pills really help. I had unprotected sex with my bf and I inserted a pill the night before we saw each other and one right after we had sex. Everything seems to be in order and I haven't had to put another pill in for about a week now. I also use an exterior vaginal shampoo everyday, it's supposed to help maintain the vaginal PH levels. You may also try nonfat plain greek yogurt and that seems to help too due to the probiotics. You can insert it directly into the vagina and eating it helps too!
Can you still have sex with inserting the pills?
I am 45 years old and have suffered from BV for over 25 years! To say the least it has been a long and uncomfortable 20 years. Today I purchased the capsules and the boric acid and made my own. I also bought some coconut oil gel caps. I am very encouraged by reading all of the comments. This give me hope! I will follow up with a comment to give my results. Thanks for posting ladies, I always thought I was alone.
If you are itching like crazy on the outside even after using boric acid, it sounds as though you have a yeast infection rather than a bacterial infection. Try Monostat for that.
How often did you do the Boric Acid treatments for BV?
Homemade Boric Acid Capsules for 4 days and nights inserted into the vagina cured my Bacterial Vaginosis after suffering for 3 weeks. It won't come down in the daytime, but it causes a watery discharge which also contains the bacteria, so wear a liner. A whole garlic clove or a tampon dipped in diluted tee tree oil can also bring relief and or cure, however there are many strains of bacteria so you have to see which one works.
Note: Neither the typical treatment for yeast infection nor bladder infection will work on this type of bacteria.
I've been using boric acid (tonight is night six) and I'm still so itchy on the outside!! Did you have issues with being itchy externally? I feel fine on he inside, it's just the outside (my pee hole Sorry tmi!! )
I've posted about a year ago, but I want to give another update in regards to this EMBARASSING condition! I've been using Boric Acid capsules for about 3 years with much success! Interestingly I can anticipate the times that I will have an 'episode'?.which usually include pre & during menstruation, post sex, and when I eat seafood (Seriously)! Even after 3 years I just recently bought my second bottle of Boric Acid for less than $10! Yes, ladies - that's about $3.00 A YEAR to save myself from this embarrassing condition. No doctor visits, no prescription medicines and most importantly no smells. I encapsulate the boric acid in '00' size capsules (about 450mg) and just insert one before any of the above conditions will take place. Even when me and the hubs go away on vacation I just take a few capsules, just in case!
I've also created a 50/50 solution of hydrogen peroxide and water, soaked a tampon and inserted it over night. This seems to help balance the pH level and is my go to should I forget my capsules.
While boric acid only treats the symptoms, I have begun an elimination diet, mainly meat, cheese and other mucus forming foods. It's hard to make these changes, but walking around with a smelly v is much harder!
Yes!!! That's me! I feel like there is no light at the end of the tunnel! I've tried everything! So today I went and got my boric acid tablets. I'll be starting my first day tonight before bed. Wish me luck. This is my last hope. If these don't work I'm pretty sure I'm screwed!
You should not have any itching from using boric acid capsules in your vagina. I have been using them for about 2-3 years for BV (there is NO cure, only maintenance). If this is your first outbreak of BV then you need to use the capsules every night for 10 nights. Then see how you feel and taper down to every 3-4 nights unless you feel that "feeling" coming back. Boric Acid will not harm you internally but you don't want to get it on your external skin or inhale it. Wash your hands immediately after making your capsules or use rubber gloves. It is a miracle maintenance substance for BV and nothing else helped me. I tried everything under the sun for 6 years and boric acid capsules are a staple in my kitchen cupboard to stay. I also make my own and use about one a week now just to maintain vaginal pH balance. It is really all about alkalizing and keeping a balanced pH in all parts of your body, which really is a full time job. Try drinking pH bottled water with at least a pH level of 8.5 or higher. It has made a world of difference for me. If you drink a little every day you won't even need boric acid after awhile. Life will be good again. Good Luck!!
Better But With Side Effects
I did the boric acid 2 nights (filling my own from what the other posts recommend and adding acidophilus) and the symptoms went away for 5 days. I have been washing my underwear on hot and I microwaved them (not recommended- some seemed to have caught fire) but somehow I think I reinfected myself.
I'm trying the boric acid again, I was going to do a 10 day treatment this time, but does anyone have any side effects? I notice my whole body is itchy after using the BA.
Just a wee note regarding the pH comment: BV actually loves an alkline environment, so having a more acidic vaginal pH is preferred for good vaginal health (around 4). The good flora in the vaginal tract create hydrogen peroxide which helps to keep the vaginal pH appropriate--Boric Acid does much the same...
I had bacterial vaginosis off and on for several months and finally seem to be rid of it. I think it was caused by my diva cup and once by using tampons, as well as condoms with spermicide. Eventually my boyfriend and I may have been passing an infection back and forth - we're the kind that put condoms on 'later'. He was diagnosed with balantitis - pretty much the male equivalent of BV. He got treated w/ antibiotics and we're both in the clear now.
I tried so many different holistic remedies and antibiotics. Nothing worked until I stopped using condoms which I assume contained spermicide. Spermicide contains nonoxynol-9, which is a "surfactant/detergent" anddangerous to your vaginal membranes. I would rid myself of BV, then 3-4 days after having sex, it would come back. I noticed the pattern and stopped using them. I did a 12 night regimen of boric acid suppositories - 1 per night right before bed. I made them myself by buying the empty capsules and boric acid powder from a pharmacy. I filled each capsule a little more than halfway. You need to get these pills as far up as possible - the infection is in your cervix and sticking them up with your fingers does not reach the infected area. I reused an applicator from a failed attempt with VH Essentials from Rite Aid. YOU HAVE TO SANITIZE THE APPLICATOR EVERY TIME YOU USE IT - BEFORE AND AFTER TO BE SAFE. I used hydrogen peroxide to clean it.
I took probiotics during the 12 night regimen. I have stopped using tampons and definitely no more diva cup. Pads only from here on out. I stay away from wearing hose, tight pants, and only wear cotton underwear. I don't wear panties to bed anymore so my vagina can air out. I limit time in a bathing suit.
Another thing that was not helping was that I had horrible acid reflux and heartburn around that time with BV. An acidic environment is perfect for infections to take hold. If you have BV, the PH balance of your vagina is off. I felt that these went hand in hand and have since remedied both my acidic issues and BV.
I hope this information helps. BV is a terribly difficult infection to rid your body of. I got to some low points. Stick in there and don't give up.
I stumbled upon this site while looking up safety of using boric acid around pets and I was very surprised something generally thought of as a toxin could be used in such a delicate area for the treatment of these conditions. I had a problem with yeast and BV when I was younger, but not so much anymore. I think fewer partners, no douching or pantyhose (like we all wore in the 80's) helped. I also make it a habit to go urinate after any sexual activity. I am glad to know some of you have found relief using this treatment. My son told me he thought periods were gross. I asked him how he thought women felt? We try and be all pretty and girly and sometimes there's a freak show going on down there. He laughed. But it is maddening how sensitive that area is for us and how many things can affect our reproductive health. Men have it way to easy.
Boric Acid Suppositories worked way beter than Flagyl, way better than MetroGel, Mertonidazole and any other prescription, it even worked bettern than cleocin. I used to suffer from BV years ago 2008 to 2012 but then it went away once I started using the Boric Acide capsules, nothing seemed to work. Then I had a baby in 2013 and I didn't have BV until 2015 and it came back with avengeance and it is driving me crazy because my hubby thinks I don't want be with him intimately, but this freaking BV makes it uncomfortable to urinate let alone have sex.
You can buy 00 capsules and powdered Boric Acid on Amazon and make your own!!