I started reading about ingesting borax and was kind of afraid at first but I've been using a 1/8th teaspoon in a bottled water (liter of water, to which I add more water as I drink it) every day except weekends. I think it has given me more energy, which is why I am keeping it up. I recently fell outside and twisted my ankle-but actually not a whole lot of pain (except when I first did it) and I was able to walk and work (and my work is standing factory work)-and I did twist it so that it swelled up and bruised. I don't know if the borax drink helped-because when I did it I thought I was going to have to call in to my work.
Based on the fact that measuring spoons can vary depending on where you are in the world, it may be more accurate to describe Ted's Borax protocol in terms of milligrams per dose instead of in fractional teaspoon measurements. The 1/4 teaspoon dose delivers approximately 970 mg while the 1/8th teaspoon dose delivers approximately 485 mg. While the 1/8th and 1/4 teaspoon doses work fine here in the US, people from many other country's come to EC and their measuring spoons may be significantly different than ours!
Based on the known toxicity of borax, both of these doses fall well below that toxicity level.
It is my understanding that borax contains 11.36% boron. I use a "level full" 1/4th teaspoon bakers measuring spoon (USA) to measure my borax. The 1/4th spoon, when measured with a digital scale, shows on average, 970 mg of which 11.36% is boron. If I multiply 970 mg x .1136 (11.36%) = 110.192 mg of boron in my 1/4th teaspoon or about 110 mg per 1/4th teaspoon dose and about 55 mg of boron per 1/8th teaspoon dose. These are the two doses recommended by Ted on this website.
Based on this, I do not understand how you arrived at the figures in your post showing more than double what I calculate for these two doses. I get that different types of spoons from around the world may vary in their accuracy or actual size, but If I am also using a digital scale in conjunction with the spoon for verification, how can I be that far off? What am I doing wrong?
Just a very important note:
The suggested borax doses are very inaccurate! They are based on the premise that a teaspoon of borax is 4 grams. The weight of Borax is NOT 4gm per Teaspoon, it's actually 8.65gm per metric teaspoon, which means you're taking more than double the stated 113mg and 56mg.
In actual fact,
1/8 tsp = 119mg of boron
1/4 tsp = 238 mg of boron
(BORON, not BORAX)
Please don't just cut and paste information without verifying its accuracy!
I take the 1/4 teaspoon of Borax in a quart of water per each day of the week with weekends off. I tried going down to the 1/8th teaspoon dosing, but that was not fully effective for me.
Glad to hear that the aloe was helpful for the LP! I hope you have great results with your TCM experiment!
Wondering how much borox do you take during the weekdays? I have just started taking two teaspoonfuls/day, of a two cup water/ 1/2 rounded teaspoonful borax solution, in water (also five day/ week) which I believe is about 18 mg/day. I plan to reduce it after a while.
By the way, I have found the preservative free aloe vera juice you suggested to be very beneficial for the lichen planus! It gives almost immediate relief. It wears off but you can take it as needed. I have finally made an appointment with a Chinese medicine doctor in August for six appointments, twice/week for three weeks, which is what he requires. Have been thinking about it for years and finally decided to call. Will post any results after trying this.
Thanks for all your helpful posts and links, as usual!
Well, Borax has many other benefits than just arthritis, so in order to get those benefits, I take it continuously on weekdays.
I agree the drugs I was taking for rheumatoid arthritis almost destroyed my mind.
I was taking Leflunomide 20 MG and Prednisone, this combination was a nightmare for me. Now I drink Borax and also drink Marshmallow root tea and I feel so much better my fingers are no longer swollen and the stiffness in my shoulders has improved after only 1 week.
Greetings Earth Clinic, I have been using the Borax remedy now over 11 months with a quarter teaspoon borax into 1 litre of water and drinking 1litre of water as well 5days on 2days off.......my pain has reduced exponentially yet living near a mountain my osteoarthritis is affected by the cold until the summer months of course.........I'm uncertain as to how long should I still be taking Borax..........which is my question?
Actually not hair and scalp but the bone chip from the above lady. I heard of someone with a permanently brittle crushed spine and she was told to rub pure frankincense from neck to tailbone twice a day for 6 months from the founder of an essential oil company.
Later down the track, an X-ray revealed it has fused back together and repaired itself much to the shock of the doctors who could t explain it..... worth a try????
1/4 teaspoon in how much water? Do you have any idea how many mg's you are taking? Are you taking it after eating it on an empty stomach?
Long Term Use of Borax
The borax dosages that EC quoted from Ted are quite correct. Also bear in mind that borax has the same toxicity profile as common table salt. When you take the male dose of 250 mgs of borax(1/4 tspn) you are only actually ingesting about 113 mgs of boron -- and the woman's borax dosage(1/8 tspn) is ony about 55 mgs of boron.
To further help you to understand the dosages, usefulness and importance of Borax for our bodies, you should watch this video:
I've also been using Ted's male Borax Water dosages on a regular basis for about the last 11 years (since 2007) without any problems at all -- and I'm 68 y o.
Ted suggested taking 1/8 teaspoonful in one liter of water and drinking that throughout the day, for women. 1/4 teaspoonful borax for a man in one liter water, consumed throughout the day. I believe someone figured out that this was still a fairly potent amount of boron, so 2T seems very high.
EC: Ted's 1/8 teaspoon in liter of water for women dosage amounts to 55mg of boron per day and the 1/4 teaspoon in liter of water for men dosage amounts to 113mg of boron per day.
IMHO 3 mg of boron is useless. Search YouTube for Dr Jorge Flechas videos on boron. He recommended to my dentist that I start with 90 for 3 months then dropping to 60 for 3 months. Then dropping to a maintenance dose of 30. Every time I decreased my knee started hurting. I had to wait six months for each decrease. I have put off knee replacement for three years and still going. Every time my RA flares up, I up my dose. Currently I am taking 150 mg to combat osteoporosis. According to Dr Flechas this is the dose his wife needed to reverse her osteoporosis. And My RA is doing great.
I'm curious about the dosage to be taking, the doctor's office directions said to mix 2 TBSP Borax with 1 Liter of water and gulp morning and night. To me that meant 1 swallow in the morning and night. I did that for several days and then saw the video from you guys and now I am questioning their directions for dosage.
I have to tell you I am quite shocked. I've been doing 30 mg worked up to 110 mg a day of borax past few months. I started it for my 2 knee arthritis which it has helped I still have pain but it's not the light me up screaming pain when I move it the wrong way. It's also helping my Candida overgrowth which I'm overjoyed about. But what really sets borax apart for me is I haven't read this from anybody yet.… Are you ready for this? Skin tag Yep that's right. I never get skin tags but about 10 years ago I got a skin tag in a private area. And it was a good quarter inch long. It's been there like I said for about 10 years. Well two months into doing the Borax and guess what the skin tag is almost all gone from taking borax orally! I am so happy this stuff is amazing I'm doing 110 mg and I am a woman, but this is a treatment dose, sure I will end up with the maintenance dose once everything feels better.
I have fibromyalgia, chronic fatique and other co issues. Eliminating my Candida overgrowth that I've been fighting for 20 years is just a blessing. This stuff is amazing I started my own Facebook group to give people support we all talk about how great it's been using borax thank you for all you do we use a lot of your videos to encourage people. I just haven't found anybody talking about borax and skin tags again this was orally, I did not apply it to the skin tag that's what really trips me out. I bet if somebody put it on a cotton ball and held it on their skin tags it would work even faster! God bless keep up the good work.
You have to replace the minerals that were removed in the distilled water. Himalayan sea salt, the pink kind, makes distilled water the healthiest water you can drink. The exact minerals our bodies need are in this salt, all 84 of them.
Diane, I take borax with sea-salted bottled spring water. I also ensure to sup Magnesium. Maybe borax just didn't work for you, or there are other things going on in your body that it was working on. Most people are deficient in iodine, perhaps this (lugols iodine) or kelp extract will make a difference in your health. Just a thought. Since improving my reproductive cycle with a pot of fresh garden tea every day (the goal was better health through easily absorbed nutrients, this was unexpected and very welcome), I am supplementing vitamin e, Magnesium, coconut oil, vitamin c and have just really started Iodine properly after receiving the tablets. I will be starting high dose iodine after reading some benefits, this is the adjustment phase and fortunately with clean diet I have had no ill effects, started 1/4 pill, 1/2 pill now one pill daily. On my next few days off work I will trial 50 mg a day, initially for monitoring purposes. From high dose Iodine I expect cysts, lumps, stones and worse to dissolve, to not feel cold all the time, and for the disappearance of many moles, which from my understanding are a result of internal fungus. My best advice to you is to keep reading, researching, you are sure to find what your body needs to heal. Oh also add some herbs to assist the liver, an overloaded liver can not cleanse your body of the toxins that accumulate whenever pathogens, fungus etc are attacked. This (dandelion) is in my daily tea. Best to you.
Borax for arthritis pain and hair growth
I am 70 years old, and take no prescription drugs, and am a 0+ blood type.
I had a bakers cyst, torn meniscus and severe swelling and pain in my right knee for several months. The Dr. wanted me to do a clean out surgery under a general anesthetic. I instead went to a Chiropractor who did three sessions of a laser and 2 weeks before that I had started borax, doing 1/4 teaspoon in water daily. My knee is perfect now and also 2 knuckles on my right hand that have hurt for years is also gone, and much fewer body aches, also my hair is coming back in after a lot of hair loss.
You can take it for as long as you want. Boron is supposed to be in our fruits & veggies naturally but our soil is deficient in North America. If you keep taking the borax, it will help you during middle age too by assisting the parathyroid gland to help regulate your hormones, which is great for hot flashes.
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Do you know what KIND of water is needed for the Borax remedy? Should it be distilled or just regular water and NOT mineral water (since I received no results using mineral water)? Thank you.
Borax and Gut Flora
For how long can I take the borax solution?
Just wondering where you bought your borax from?
Indeed. Yasha is about 78 years old now if she's still drawing breath, and is/was living in one of the most sparsely-populated, isolated areas of these United States of America in far northeastern Oregon (I used to live in the same county a few years back). A different breed of people live there, the very few who do, and the modern world has a tendency to confound them. Am not meaning this harshly or being mean. It's simply the way things are there. Good people, but their minds are generally made up and they can confuse when given facts. Go there, you'll see. Gorgeous country, Hell's Canyon area.
On another note, all of the vast amount of ideas, experiences, and knowledge here are quite likely helping to extend my life at present, having fought a couple of cancers all naturally for pushing 6 years here now (bladder and prostate). The borax has been incredibly effective in keeping my system on the slightly alkaline side, a critical part of my chosen therapies. It's kept the cancers from being able to grow.
Important, and respectfully- a little borax goes a long way. In my estimation- 1/8th teaspoon of borax in a quart/liter of water per day may well be too much for many if not most people. One quarter of this amount is likely fine, 1/32nd teaspoon (that is- one measured "smidgeon") dissolved well into a quart or liter of clean water per day is a strong alkalizing solution, still requiring a couple of days off each week.
And thank you one and all for spending the time to share and thus help many others. Had I gone the conventional medicine ways there would have been no way that I could have spent the last half a decade living life to the fullest. Thank you EarthClinic.
Shoulder Joint Pain
Borax for Shoulder Joint Pain:
I have been using borax for 3 weeks now and I have noticed a big difference in my shoulder joints which both have arthritis. I have no pain now and the range of motion is better.
1/2 teaspoon between 4 people per day is 1/8 teaspoon each - which is what Ted recommends. So you are taking his dose.
I have only been taking Borax for 4 days. Yesterday I started developing an itchiness around my lower legs, just above the ankle ( this are tends to get itchy for me sometimes, maybe an allergy? ), but I am just thinking that this is the Borax "working" and this is a small reaction, as I anticipated, but I will monitor it. Last night I had several visits to the bathroom, not diarrhoea, just a bit of a clean out. Now luckily I had read your post last night earlier on, as one of the movements was loads of tiny white "flecks" almost like Sesame seeds, and I thought that was weird as I hadn't eaten anything that would come out like that in the past few days. Then I remembered your post! ............. Wow, I am convinced that is what it was, either that or Candida coming out? .............. but I would tend to agree it is probably lots of Calcium deposits being expelled. Today I am feeling great and the itchiness in my lower legs has noticeably reduced. I am having a day off Borax to let everything settle down again, but I will do it again for 5 days next week. What amazing stuff this is............... And thank you again for mentioning the Calcium thing, or I would never have noticed.
Try mixing it in with lemon water or juice :)
Borax and Hormones
Fantastic answer, thank you Bev :)
Hair and Scalp
I understand that a Castor Oil poultice will dissolve bone spurs. Maybe he could try this. Just pour some Castor Oil on a thick cloth and put this on when he goes to bed at night. You could tape it on or use an ace bandage.
I wonder if the stomach pain could be because Borax is alkaline it might decrease your stomach acid and lead to indigestion when you eat?? Purely speculative. Inversely, taking an alkaline solution on an empty stomach can stimulate release of additional acid (in anticipation that you are eating) - this excess stomach acid with no food to digest could cause stomach pain as well.
Is a boron foot bath recommended for arthritis joint pain? If so, would a boron supplement capsule dissolved in water work? And how long to soak recommended?
I would like to know - after rubbing his feet with Borax how long did he let it stay on or if he let it dry without washing off?
EC: Let it dry without washing it off.
Don't take it for granted if you can buy it from the supermarket, I have seen corporations change the formulas of products and thus made them useless. The same thing can happen for the general public access to pure minerals. Stock up is good advice.
I think Janet's comments about the minerals is important. I did also wonder about the cold snap comment and wondered if you had considered the possibility of increases in mold and mildew that might have occurred in the home you live in. From my personal experience, I had been doing better on boron but about a month ago started drinking fermented kefir juices because I thought they were healthy, the boron didn't seem to be working so well. I have always had trouble with alcohol and know that it just does not agree with me. My son alerted me that with the fermentation I was actually making alcohol even though it is a small amount. Removing this from my diet I seem to be doing better again. It's possible that the alcohol was causing my body to use up the boron faster, essentially neutralising the benefits. Likewise, I wonder if you may have unknowingly been exposed to increases in mold in your home during the cold snap, the borax could be being depleted trying to deal with possible increases in mold. Boron appears to kill yeast but conversely, I would think yeasts and mold could deplete boron reserves. Just my thoughts as a possibility, don't know if applies in your situation.
The kidney pain may be due to the alkalinity of borax affecting preexisting kidney stones. Drinking a glass of water with a tablespoon of raw apple cider vinegar a few times a day may fix it. Other remedies for kidney stones are available elsewhere on EarthClinic.
Lynn, have you tried an autoimmune gut healing protocol like GAPS (gut and psychology syndrome/gut and physiology syndrome) or AIP (auto-immune paleo protocol)? I had symptoms of lichen sclerosis for years (it started more like interstitial cystitis) until my daughter was diagnosed with multiple food allergies including foods that are eliminated in both of those diets. When I adjusted the food our family ate to accommodate her food allergies my symptoms went away! Now if I eat much wheat/gluten (like if we're visiting relatives and I have little control over what I eat) my symptoms tend to start coming back. It could also make a huge difference to get the guidance of a functional medicine doctor too. A lot of FM docs are chiropractors. You can find an FM doc on a search engine.
MSM for Borax Side Effects
MSM might be good against borax die-off reactions
Taking a serious risk, I took 1/4 teaspoon of borax with a glass of water. The next day, I got strong Herx reactions primarily including stomach and gut pain, nausea, and slight pains or pressures in various regions of my head.
I noticed that a teaspoon of MSM powder (which I've been using for a week now) with a glass of water and orange juice alleviated the reactions.
It's wonderful. I only use a pinch. No more hard agony menstrual cycles. Nails are so hard. Skin so clear.
Farm supply stores will have it.
Try wetting your feet, rubbing Borax into them, and putting socks on over it. You can leave it on all day. When I do this the muscles in my lower legs are noticibly more relaxed.
Pineal Gland Decalcification
I am 5'8, " 220 lbs., 38 years, female, and I take a teaspoon of organic nutmeg powder once a day in a glass of milk every few days. I have been using it this way for five years. Sometimes I add a teaspoon of ground cloves. The organic nutmeg sold in a little glass bottle by a big herb company isn't nearly as effective as the organic powder sold in a bulk jar at the same store. Groung fresh is even better. The effects are decreased pain, improved mood, relaxation, better sleep, and dry mouth. I took a larger dose a while back and the next morning was very dehydrated and dizzy. Fresh citrus juice, I have found, is the very best remedy for the dehydration. You must try it! I like nutmeg combined with valerian, kava kava, and/or green tea. Very recreational. Nutmeg also makes any food eaten afterward taste amazing.
I read an article that warned people about the dangers of using nutmeg to get high. It seemed dishonest in light of my own experience with nutmeg. It said users would experience some small high, but it would be overshadowed by extreme nausea. That has not been my experience at all. I have experienced nausea once from it, I had taken it with an expectorant containing lemon myrtle and eucalyptus oils, and a herbal guanfenison - contradictory herbs.
Boron Vs Borax
To Jerry who wrote: "Can I just take Boron Capsules?"
Things are dose dependent. All of the Boron supplements I find are rather low like less than or equal to about 10mg. 1/4 teaspoon per day though dissolved in water is between 115mg-158mg depending on the measuring spoon and how level or round your scoop is. That is a huge delta in dose. I have heard of 50mg-60mg tablets but have never actually seen them for sale.
In the late 1980's and early 1990's as a high school athlete the ones sold to athletes where 3mg-6mg - again far lower than what you get in a rather common dose of 1/4 teaspoon of borax in 1 liter of water sipped through the day!
I took 1/4 teaspoon per day the first 3 weeks then started to get diarrhea. I reduced it to 1/8 of a teaspoon a day for 2 weeks and all of the diarrhea went away completely. Some days I take 1/8 teaspoon some days I take a 1/4 and I am fine.
In theory anything is better than not taking borax so if someone was really sensitive or had IBS you could start at 1/16th of a teaspoon and slowly over weeks and months build up to 1/4 teaspoon. Evidence is showing that observational with individuals that you can get a lot of health benefits at varying does but the higher the dose the more consistent the results seem to be.
In post menopausal women a lot of individuals have found that reversing osteoporosis takes around 150mg of borax, vit and 400mg-600mg of magnesium per day to reverse it and that is a far higher dose than someone without osteoporosis needs. In those without severe fluorosis or osteoporosis that have healthy bone mass, 50mg per day seems to be the sweet spot but again you need magnesium and vitamin D3 in the diet. It is thought that enzymes and mineral metabolism is how boron works it's many benefits. Some people probably get enough minerals in their diet but for most Americans minerals and Vitamin D3 and iodine are almost always low. Iodine helps to keep your body from depositing fluoride in your bones.
I thought the same thing I am reading online upper tolerable limit for boron is 20 mg a day, I broke out my smidgeon (1/32 tsp) measuring spoon and filled it about a third full..probably about 7 mg..if my calculations are right..
What made you try this for your dad. I'm curious. I've suffered from tinnitus for 30 years. Along with vertigo like many of us we've tried just about every thing and nothing works...the doctors here won't subscribe it just on my recommendation..so a little insight might help thanks
My husband did not take extra calcium. He does get plenty of dietary calcium.
Honestly, I am not sure which supplements are best to complement the borax protocol!
~Mama to Many~
Mama to Many,
Does your husband take Calcium? I few pages back someone said borax can deplete minerals like calcium, vit D... what must be taken when using oral borax?
Trying to get the best info before I start borax.Thanks!
Borax is not any kind of soap..
When used to wash clothes it softens the water, making your laundry detergent more effective and you are able to use less detergent...
Ok so for those having issues with Borax. I took 1/4 teaspoon in an 8 once glass of hot water about the temp you would make tea at. It was incredible each day pain seemed to melt away. About 3 weeks into this I started to get diarrhea. So I droped my dose from 1/4 teaspoon a day to 1/8 teaspoon a day and everything was good. Did improvements slow? Yes. Did my pain come back? No. I figure after a few months I will try moving back to 1/4 teaspoon a day.
Oh I am 44 years have had 3 ankle surgeries, a knee surgery, have diabetes, a leaking heart valve and a whole in half my sacrum from spinabifida. I have been terrible pain since age six and was told I would never walk again, never play sports again blah blah....Since I had the right knee of a 90 year old man at age 12 I played sports, lifted weights, climbed mountains etc.....
Oh I forgot about my broken spine and arthritis in multiple joints including my left hand. Slowly but surely I am reversing my type ii diabetes with diet and exercise. I am reversing my many issues with nutrients including Borax. I know what it is to go from squatting over 700lbs. bench pressing 475lbs. to barely being able to get out of the way of one's own shadow.
So just keep in mind that if a dose of Borax is too high and causes you side effects do not give up on it just cut the dose until the side effects go away. You can always build up but if you give up well all is lost! Take each day one day at a time. Think in terms of weeks, months, years, decades. You did not end up where you are instantly so it will likely take some time to turn things around.
As a fellow American I know we are short on patience as a Nation and want Instant Results but life does not work that way usually! Stay focused on the dream and just take one step towards it each day a marathon is not a huge intense sudden effort rather it is a series of moderate efforts repeated over and over and over again until you get to the end!
Initial Positive Results 3 weeks into Borax as supplement.
I have had bad joints since I was about 6 years old. Many times I would told my Surgeons that I had the right knee of a 90 year old man when I was 12 years old. Constant pain since about age 6. I have used every supplement for joint health you can imagine with some improvement but never remotely as promised. I even used DMSO through high school to allow me to play sports and get through the pain and it worked but at a high cost! The odor and skin irritation and constant taste of garlic was terrible on everyone in my family not just me. I had recently tried odorless DMSO mixed with essential oils and it was helping some.
So I decided to try boron. I started with 1/4 teaspoon of borax in a litter of water every day. At some point I just forgot to take the DMSO and did not notice I was not in constant pain. 3 weeks in my rh knee which has had surgery just stopped hurting. My left hand just stopped hurting. My shoulder pain just went away. I started to have diarrhea after the 3rd week so I went down to 1/8 of a teaspoon a day and the diarrhea has gone away.
I have had low Vitamin D reading fore years and even taking Vitamin K and 25,000 units of D3 a day I was unresponsive for years. So now that I am taking the Borax I will check my next set of labs which will be some months out and see what we see.
My Mom and Dad have many of the same issues with Vitamin D and joint issues. I have introduced them to Borax so we will see what we see. Oh I am 44 years old and played sports and ate well all of my life. My joints are well documented with X-Rays and MRI's and I have complete lab workup about 2X a year. I will keep track of any changes and let the site know what else changes. I have more health issues than I care to have at 44 years old so if I see any improvement I will let everyone know. I am very excited about the possibilities.
I'm glad I found your post about breaking out. Every time I try using the borax at 1/8 tsp in 1 liter of water (sipped throughout the day), 5 days on, 2 days off--I end up with boils and "pimples".
The first round I got a big blueberry sized boil on my chin. Took over a month for it to go away and was embarrassing! I stopped drinking the borax and waited until the boil was gone. I also got small ones on my behind and a bunch of small ones on my scalp.
Second time, I got just a few medium and small ones.
Three weeks ago, I did another week of borax drink and developed 5 small hard pimples (never came to a head though) next to my mouth on one said and 3 on the other side. They are still not gone going into week 4 even though I have not used the borax since that first week. I know boils take weeks to clear up so I'm just waiting. Scalp had a lot again and some small ones in my inner thigh and behind. I take a break when I get them and don't start again until they heal.
I was wondering if this is part of healing. I believe I have staph infection becauce I've been getting folliculitis for the past 3 years. So I assumed this might be the staph purging. I am going to keep doing on this until I can do two weeks in a row without an outbreak. Then try for 3 weeks and so on. Then get up to a month without reaction and taper back off.