Effective Natural Remedies for High Blood Pressure Management

Is it ok to combine 2 teaspoons of ACV in 8 oz of water with 2 tbs. of Blackstrap Molasses (instead of Honey) 3 times a day for my High Blood Pressure?

Do a liver flush. Then juice fresh beets (root and top) and drink. May want to juice with carrots. It may turn your stool red... You are not bleeding.

For high bp, one word: Beets. Eat fresh beets--roasted, on salad, juiced, or "refrigerator pickled". There is an easy recipe for making refrigerator beets on the Food Network website (Alton Brown recipe). I omit the thyme, use ACV or red wine in place of the flavored vinegar, and use cane sugar in place of sugar (I also use about half the sugar he calls for... ). Does not require heat canning or pressure canning. Delicious, ready in 3 days, great on salads or just straight out of the jar. Also, fresh beet juice--plain or mixed with carrot, apple, celery, ginger... Any number of other fresh juices... There are a number of articles on the web about studies proving that beets lower BP.

I know that beetroots lower blood pressure and I do drink fresh beet juice regularly but I wonder about the sugar as they seem to contain a lot.

Try D3 and K2 in mega doses. See youtube video regarding this method.

Hi,

I have just started on Reishi mushroom capsules, 1 per day. I must say that I have less stress, anxiety and feel happier and sleep better!

Can I ask if it affected your legs at all. My legs started to ache (but that could be lack of exercise - or sitting in an awkward position) I would love to hear from you or anyone else. ACV and Reishi seems a good combo. Do you take the 1tbs of ACV with water (and anything else)?

Hi ,

Good to know Reishi mushroom lowers the BP. Once at the farmers market a very old chinese lady told me to drink Reishi Mushroom boiled in water to lower Blood Pressure.

I am wondering what brand of Reishi Mushroom are you taking.

Thanks.

High Blood Pressure - Water. The reason apple cider vinegar 'cure' works is because it's usually taken with lots of water. If you don't like the tast of apple cider vinegar, just drink 6-8 glasses of water per day--2 glasses upon rising and the rest before 5pm. High blood pressure is actually just the adaptive process your body has to severe "water deficiency". Drink lots of pure water daily and don't be surprised if your other ailments are cured within weeks or even days.

I have had high blood pressure for years. I have always drank about a half gallon of water a day. I started taking apple cider vinegar every morning with apple juice. I still drink a half gallon of water a day, or less. Now my blood pressure medication has been cut in half. If my water intake is the same or less, and it's all about water, then why has my medication amount been cut in half since I started taking the vinegar?

Thanks Chris-- By the way, what time of day did you take the pomegranate Juice?

They sell pomegranite molasses in our local Mediteranean food store -pure pomegranite juice that has been concentrated to a thick consistency and used in middle-eastern cookery. I wonder if anyone has tried it and got the same benefits as the bottled juice. I started using it in water as a drink a couple of days ago, so far BP still in 180/110 range in spite of taking bp medication from my cardiologist fir the past 3 months. We'll see if it works.

I have diabetes and hypothyroidism. I started dieting in January to help control my diabetes and also because I am overweight. My thyroid issue is kinda of in control but I am having trouble with my blood pressure. The doctor wants to put me on meds but I'm really trying to find a natural remedy to avoid taking meds. Please let me know what I can do to lower it. Thanks. Lupe.

Regarding...

"Milk Thistle -- 1000 gms twice a day
Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day
Selenium -- 200 micrograms once or twice Day

Take the above supplements with food at lunch and dinner. It is also advisable to take standard B50 complex dosages since the above combination of supplements tends to deplete vitamin B in the body"

Is this safe to do while breastfeeding?

I have been taking cayenne pepper for the past 6 weeks, 1 teaspoon three times per day. I have been feeling unwell for years and came across this site. Made a bit of difference. I felt the best I have for years, although still not real good. I am about 7 lb overweight and exercise daily and have a healthy diet. I have all the symptoms of hypothyroidism (palpitations, difficulty losing weight, lightheadedness, slightly elevated cholesterol, high triglycerides, anxiety, etc.) but blood tests are normal. My blood pressure has been good since taking the cayenne pepper. However last week it went very high for 4 days. I had much more mucous than normal and may have had a sinus infection. I started taking ACV for my blood pressure and it has finally come down. My cold symptoms have also got much better. My questions are:

Is it better to take Cayenne pepper or ACV or can they be taken together? Also can having a slight infection make blood pressure rise? Look forward to getting some answers.

I realise that I have not included some information which may be helpful. I am 53 years old and my blood pressure is usually about 95/65 so the high blood pressure was very unusual for me.

Can't lower my blood pressure 170/70. Doctor put me on blood pressure pills 10mg Lisinopril and 12.5mg Hydrochlorothiazide, and now wants to increase the dose. My body was/is having a hard time adjusting. Right kidney has slight pain, my skin is dry, my nails have pits in them, I am slightly tired, just don't have the energy I used to.

I have tried the ACV, with Baking Soda, but it doesn't seem to help all that much. Any help would be much appreciated thank you!

Bob

I know you may not accept what I am going to say but I hope you will give it a 3 month try,,first get the book called the China Study,,this is by a scientist that did 30 years of research on food and our diseases. I suggest you try a vegan diet for 3 months,,,no animal, nothing, are you to eat,,only vegatables and only vegetables that you cook, with no oils whatsoever...you may eat rye or pumpernicle bread or make your own with whole flour..no sugar, no peanut butter or anything with oil,,no purchased prepared food with preservatives and chemicals in it. Merryanne

Robert you don't mention how much of the ACV you are using daily or if you are using the raw, unfiltered ACV with the Mother. For 3 weeks now I have been using the ACV with the Mother in it, 3 tablespoons a day with water and juice and using baking soda to bring up the ph level to 7.2. Today when I went to the Dr he took me off the Lisinopril and told me to keep doing what I am doing. From what I understand sometimes you have to stay on it for some time before you see benefits but I am not sure. Hope this helps.

Hi Robert. I don't know what specific factors are contributing to your HBP but if you try to incorporate more fruits & veggies into your diet - this will certainly help you significantly. I would also encourage you to eat garlic and cayenne pepper (the hotter the better). These two sources (along with magnesium chloride) are exceptional at lowering HBP. I know because both my parents no longer suffer from HBP (especially my mother who took meds for a while). I recommend garlic cayenne because both possess some degree of sulfur and magnesium - which, when working in tandem, are exceptional at reducing the force at which the heart has to work/pump blood systemically (systolic). Cayenne pepper (which is one of my favorite herbs/spices) is mother nature's gift for strengthening the heart. Its very rich in magnesium (which helps to induce muscle relaxation, circulation vasodilation) and garlic - known for so many different things - is very rich in sulphur compounds.

NOTE: I do want to caution u that since you are taking meds - both cayenne garlic are minimal blood thinners and thus, could be a cause for concern (for you). Check with your doctor to prevent any problems.

But as for utilizing as a remedy - I would recommend to start - trying to eat 1 raw (preferably organic) clove of garlic a day. (Yikes! I know!) but it works! I would say mince it and try it in a salad or w/ an avocado. The allicin in the garlic can oftentimes be hard on digestion. Cayenne u can basically sprinkle on anything....or if you want to go for the gusto - try a 1/4 teaspoon to 1 teaspoon in a cup of hot water or tea of your choice (ie. peppermint, chamomile, ginger, etc.) w/ lemon and some honey (per day). This is how I usually take it....but if neither appeals to u - then I say, try the diet route. I think it'll be a win-win either way.

Take care God Bless You. :0)

If you're trying to cut salt from your diet for high blood pressure, you might try what my holistic practioner told me. Eat all the salt you want. Just do NOT use it in your cooking. Use sea salt (we use a tabletop twist grinder) at the table. Now my home canned produce tastes so salty (followed manufacturers directions) that it's nearly inedible. Amazing how much less salt we use at our house!

I'm glad you are happy with the way you use salt but to be honest.... I prefer to use a minimum of salt but cook with it. Food just tastes a lot better. Adding at the table just doesn't taste the same. I dare say that no one should take too much salt, not at the table and not for cooking.

Hi Eve from Liverpool,

The ideal blood pressure reading for an young adult is 120/80. The upper number is systole (what pressure is exerted during pumping action and the diastole (pressure exerted during rest between pumping action). When looking at the numbers, you can readily see that a 20 increase in the systolic doesn't look nearly as frightening as when it occurs in the diastole (140/80 vs 120/l00) and your doctor is more likely to be concerned about the 120/100.

Response to Joyce from TN -
Not this doctor, this was recently just posted:

Question:
"Dear Doctor Rief, I have had high blood pressure for 20 years. I have tried at least 14 different medications during all these years. In all this time I have never been able to get my pressure down to normal limits. My diastolic is always in the 90`s and the systolic in the 140`s. I am now 54 and worrying as time passes I am at risk of stroke or heart attack. I`ve had a stress/echo 18 months ago and it was normal. What can I do to get my pressure under control? I also suffer from GAD and currently take 5 mg. valium TID. I am under a lot of stress in my life and have been since first being diagnosed with high blood pressure. Problems with my marriage and relationship with parents and kids. I just want to be normal as now I am not able to drive due to the anxiety. Thank you for any advice you can offer

Doctor's Answer:
It is difficult to give specific advice without having complete data in an individual patient. However, a few points can be made:

Anxiety can cause or aggravate hypertension, and hypertension can cause anxiety. Some patients respond to counseling, while others respond to antidepressants.

At any rate, your blood pressure should be 130 systolic or lower. You can safely ignore the diastolic number, as it is not indicative of cardiovascular risk.

Hello Karen from Deland,

This is a first for me. Never in 30+ years of working in the medical field have I heard any doctor or nurse say you can totally ignore the diastolic reading.

But knowing no more than we do about this person with the hypertension/stress/anxiety problems for 20 years, my reasoning would have been that stress depletes the body of the B vitamins, and that magnesium is an essential mineral our bodies need which also has a lot to do with our nerves, thus our stress and anxiety. You aren't going to cure the family problems with the the parents or the kids overnight, if ever. But the odds are that the level of stress and anxiety are causing a lot of those problems with the marriage, parents and kids.

If I were in this person's shoes I would probably make sure I was taking a good multivitamin/mineral supplement daily (probably one morning and one evenings for a week or two), a good stress tablet mealtimes and bedtime, and magnesium supplement of 400 to 500 mgm b.i.d. Once I was feeling better and pressure let up, I would wean myself off the Valium 5 t.i.d. Another thing our bodies need that has a lot to do with blood pressure also is potassium, and our modern day fast food dietary habits are likely to cause multiple deficiencies. Low potassium also causes an increase in stress and anxiety. A good way to tell if this is part of the problem, is to drink a big glass of fresh or frozen orange juice and see if you feel better for an hour or more afterwards. If so, add a potassium supplement to increase health immediately, but in the long run, improving ones dietary habits to increase these levels is going to be the most beneficial.

If problems with family, marriage, kids and parents continue, then the whole bunch of them need to learn to talk to each other, without accusations and anger, and if they can't do that without counseling, lets hope they find a good one.

I wish I could take ACV... even mixed with water it hurts my stomach so badly. I tried it with baking soda too. Rats.

Hello - I have a question for Ted. I have been taking ACV with baking soda daily. Is daily baking soda added to apple cider vinegar w/mother the correct remedy for high blood pressure or should I drink the ACV in water without the baking soda? I've been reading about sodium in baking soda so I'm unclear as to the amount. I have been adding 1/4 teaspoon to an 8 oz glass of water with 2 tablespoons ACV. (I also brush my teeth with baking soda). Thank you.

I ended up in emergency with chest pains and BP 177/124 - took them about 6hrs a needle of some sort and 2 aspirin and 2 blood pressure pills to get it to start coming down - at the heart clinic the next the said I would have to take BP meds - maybe forever or loose 20lbs, stop smoking - so for right now I am on 2mg of coversyl - it is coming down after a month on BP med - but I took it this afternoon - 117/86 - which is good - but I tried the AVC/baking soda and re took the reading 30 mins later - 115/82 - this is great - plan to do this every evening and will monitor results - out of the gate - works great!

YES BUT IS IT SAFE TO TAKE WITH BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICATION?

I'm waking up couple of times a night with high bp and palpitations pumping thumping and blurred vision, chest pain. Seen cardiologist heart fine said my BP is fluctuating and could be gut related. During day bp is low. Do you think Hawthorn might help?

Diatomaceous Earth, I have been reading alot about and I am planning on starting doing it for my BP issues. I bought it some time ago for flea control with my dog. I knew about the pest insecticide value of this product but had no idea about the human wonder drug reputation that it has.

Hi, I am 47 from Singapore. Last night before I go to bed, I took 2 teaspoonful of Manuka Honey dilute it in a cup of plain water, add 2 teaspoon ( some dripped into the cup so it was slightly more than 2 tsp) of Apple Cider Vinegar and drank it.

I have an Omron wrist BP reader, my BP was 137/96 (average of 2 readings) this (Wed) morning.

Before this, on Monday night my BP was 162/106 (average of 2 readings). On Tuesday morning, I took my BP again and my BP was 155/107 after a night's rest.

I told myself I don't want to end up an invalid. So, the next day (Tuesday morning) I stopped drinking coffee and stopped eating my favorite softboiled eggs and kaya toast. Instead, I drank orange juice, Bread Margarine and 1 small banana. Then later I realized that Margarine is a Hydrogenerated Fat, which is bad for the body. So, I decided to throw away the small tub of margarine I just bought.

For lunch (Tuesday afternoon) I ate 1 China fuji apple, 1 small banana, 5 inches plain french baguette and a cup of warm milo. One hour after my lunch I checked my BP. It was 154/104.

For dinner @5.30pm (Tuesday evening) I ate at a Japanese restaurant - salmon sashimi, grilled saba fish, eel, 2 pcs fried sushi lobster salad toppings, 1 tempura shrimp and vegetables, chawmushi or Japanese egg custard and some rice (left 3 quarter of the bowl of rice behind). I drank green tea and decided not to drink their miso soup because of the salt content in it. Well it looks as if I ate alot, but in fact,it was just a variety of small pieces of each item because it was a Bento spread.

Had Supper at 8.30pm - slice fish soup (my purpose was to eat the fishmeat) and 1 China fuji apple.

I took my BP at 10pm it was 144/94. Then I drank the honey apple cider vingear and went to bed at 12.30am.

My BP this morning at 9am was 137/96.

Before I found this Earth Clinic website yesterday (Tuesday afternoon)I was determined to watch what I eat to bring my BP to normal. After reading the information on apple cider vinegar I went out to buy the Honey and Apple Cider Vinegar after dinner last evening.

I am waiting to see, if I can bring down my BP to healthy level with a healthy diet drinking the Honey and apple cider vinegar.

I only started the above on Tuesday and that was my day 1.

Cut down on as many carbs as possible. Cut out honey, grains (no bread), sugar, white flour. Try paleo diet. Do more exercise. See Chris Kresser or other paleo type blogs. Some folks can eat grass fed butter, dairy but I cannot. I do eat eggs (1-2 a day). ACV or lemon/lime plus baking soda should help. (ACV gives me a headache). Turmeric helps lower BP. See Mercola blog for lower BP.

For high blood pressure use olive leaf extract or powder. Please be careful if using medication or allergic. It might lower it too much. Try a little at a time, and see the effects. Use powder in tea. It's somewhat bitter. Add a little honey to sweeten taste.Mix with cayenne pepper extract if desired.. Start with smaller amounts.Very sharp taste.S tart with one or 2 drops to begin with. Check blood pressue about half an hour later to see results. Use common sense and use with caution.You might be pleasantly surprised.

Stargypsy, here's the gin and raisen recipe

1 box of white raisins (golden raisins) - can't be brown - have to be the golden raisins
1 bottle of gin (can be a very cheap bottle b/c you throw it out)

Put the raisins in a glass jar, and cover with the gin for 2 weeks (in a refrigerator). Drain the gin. Refrigerate. Eat 9 a day.

Driving a big rig around the country, my BP has to be 140/90,or they pull my license. I've taken it all:garlic, ACV, cayenne, bicarb, salt free diet, HBP pills, potassium, colloidal silver, magnesium, bananas and colloidal minerals. I'm sicker from your cures than HBP. I'm still running 200/100. The medicine has unwanted side effects,but overdosing for the test,I get it down without a doctor's or homeopath's approval and feel great the rest of the year.

Hello Hoax. Your high blood pressure could be related to build up of plaque in your arteries and not due to kidney toxicity... If this is the case you may want to check into ORAL CHELATION. This might clear your arteries and may result in lowering your blood pressure.

Phil, can you tell me which oral chelation product you used to lower your blood pressure? Like many other people, I've tried everything also to lower my BP with no luck. I would really appreciate your feedback.

Thanks, Tony

Hello Tony. I actually don't use an oral chelation. My High blood pressure issues are due to sodium and sugars. Which is why anything that will flush my kidneys seems to work... I drink Asparagus Extract every day to help maintain normal kidney function.

You can google Asparagus extract and usally Dr. Chi comes up, that is what I use. As far as oral chelation, there are many on the market. One that comes to mind is Nutralife laboratories. You may also want to check out herbalhealer.com, she has some great testimonials and she will send you a free catalog that details alot of information. And the only other one I can think of is oralchelation.com. I used, breifly the one from Nutralife laboratories and did see lower readings, but I also was drinking Asparagus Extract at the same time, so I really can't tell you for sure if it worked.

There are many people that have said oral chelation worked for them, I guess you just have to find the one that works best for you...

Vinager and garlic never helped me, only the Asparagus drink helped.

Sorry, I could not help more. But everything I learn and study comes from me making good use of google and reading several websites.

Thanks Phil, this was actually very helpful I appreciate it. Oddly enough, my BP was perfect today, but that was after a long run this morning. I've noticed that after a 30 minute jog my BP goes down significately.

Good luck to you.
Thanks again.

Hot Cocoa: 5 cups a day will fix high blood pressure. I checked my resting pulse rate at 82-beats per minute resting last night. After drinking the hot chocolate, my pulse dropped to 62-beats per minute resting heart rate.

i just read your message, you drink five cups a day, is it 8 ounces? i take blood pressure pills, thyroid medication, fish gel tablet once a day, and flax seed, will drinking this hot cocoa every day 5 cups, please clarify this for me. i heard about the cinnamon and hot cocoa together. please respond back. cindy

Hello sir, actually i am a 15 year old male. actually i have a problem of medium blood pressure. 1st when i went to a doctor my blood pressure was around 154/70. my lower blood pressure always remains normal.but my upper bp always remains high. then i started having medicines of haelopathy. but there was no reduction in my blood pressure.after few days i started having homeopathy medicines and after that my blood pressure was around 130/67. when i go to a doctor my blood pressure suddenly rise up to 135/74. so i just wanted to know how to make a control of it. and when it remains in control do i have to take medicines again and again????

Response to Hans:

12/09/2008: Hans from Delft, Zuid Holland / The Netherlands writes: "Hi Ted, Thanks for all your alkalizing advice. I have been using the lemon + baking soda formula for over 6 months now. I have a lot of energy. My skin looks great. The pH of my urine is 7,5 or higher consistantly. I take one lemon plus about 1 teaspoon of baking soda. I add one liter of water. this is what i do twice a day. Now here comes my question. Some people noticed my change in energy and also the way i look. They started doing the same, but they experience a rise in bloodpressure. My own bloodpressure doesn't rise above 125 / 83 even when i add extra baking soda. Could you explain why my bloodpressure stays the same while my friend's bloodpressure rises? Several others didn't report anything but positive from this remedy. My aunt and brothers told me their Acid reflux was gone in a few days. They also experience significant weight loss. Thanks alot!

Best regards,
Hans"

High blood pressure is often caused by chronic dehydration. The body needs a certain amount of sodium, but the body also needs to be constantly flushed by drinking enough water, which will help flush excess sodium from the system. When you feel thirst, you are already very dehydrated as this is one of the last symptoms of dehydration to manifest.

As a rule of thumb, take your body weight in pounds and divide by 2. This simple calculation gives you the number of ounces of water your body needs daily. Coffee, tea, juice, and colas don't count. Divide by 8 and this will tell you how many glasses of water you need each day.

Drinking this amount of water daily will naturally bring your blood pressure in line. A good friend of mine was able to discontinue his high blood pressure medication within 2 months of beginning this practice.

Keep in mind that strenuous physical activity and living in dry climates may increase your water requirements.

Hello everyone adn thanks so much for the great info. Long Story short is we live in Allergy county and well this yr was yr round for alot of us. I felt tired dizzy sinus issues and almost like asthmatic. So with dealing with all of that I gained 15 pounds in 3 months and was really depressed. I got to thinnking about my diet and realised I was eating pretty bad cheeese pizza dining out lots of salt ect. # days ago I checked my bp to see if went up due to the diet wieght gain as this has happened before. And it was 140/78 pulse 97. So I have changed my diet to no salt, cherries avacado seafoodfresh/frozen (not the breaded) chicken beans veggies. And started the cool water swims. After my laps I lay on the floatie in the water and put my head in the water and do a major head massage off/on 5- 10 minutes.

So today after discovering this site and before doing the cool water swim my bp was 141/78 pulse 103 3:30 pm. So I drank 3 tbs of the organic ACV then took a capsule of Cayenne 450 mg did my above swim workout and after my shower my bp had dropped 122/68 pulse 89 5:58 pm. This is remarkable. The cold water feeling is truly a miracle. My head is clear I feel like a million bucks. ANd thanks to this website and wonderful people I started the ACV and am so happy how quick this worked. I also have lost 3 pounds in just 5 days. I truly hope this info is helpful to you alll out there. I wish you all health wealth and happiness.

Hello everyone,

Ted mentioned to use either Erythritol or pure Xylitol to lower blood pressure. Erythritol is a substitute sweetner - do these products actually lower blood pressure significantly? Has anyone tried them and got good results? Thank you!

What is the constituant in Xylitol that lowers blood pressure?

Jane... Stay away from Xylitol... It's not good for you

Scott.... Why do say xylitol is bad? Can you please share your findings. Websites/books? Thanks.

This is a must for those with HBP issues. I believe HBP to be directly related to the type of sodium in our food or artial plaque build up. In my case,and yes I had test run by a medical facility and everything was in good shape, my blood pressure always seemed to be borderline at around 130 over 90 and sometimes depending on what I ate or drank would go up to 140 over 95. So I believe my HBP to be related to the type of sodium in our foods.

I have expermented with this and can make my blood pressure increase and decrease with what I eat in my diet. My BP came down in one week to 118 over 76. I was truly amazed. Well after losing motivation I soon slipped off the diet and my BP slowly crept back up. After starting the diet once again, my BP was down.

I will give you the basic diet I used (There is a book on this,but I know Earth Clinic does not want titles or products) So you will need: A blender; Whey powder; Sea salt (All natural/unbleached); Ground Flax seed; Ice; Fresh or frozen fruits and veggies; Raw almonds and other nuts; Beans; Dairy of any kind, must be fat free or 1%; Unsweetened, unfavored instant oatmeal; Eggs; Lean meats; Peanut butter (again all natural); Olive Oil;100% Whole Grain cereals and bread; Berries (Fresh or Frozen); and Low fat yogurt.

So the goal is BP reduction, but you will lose weight with this also. You will be eating every 2 to 3 hours 6 times a day. Serving sizes should be no more than the palm of your hand and you basically combine the foods such as,1 ounce of almonds with 1 ounce of raisins as a snack or an apple and a cheese stick. For supper, a serving of Tuna, Spinach, Peas, and a glass of fat free milk. For desert, a few pieces of dark chocolate. I hope you get the idea.

The very best part is the smoothies though because you can actually drink 6 of them a day instead of meals and snacks. Take a blender, add 1 cup of crushed ice or 3 or 4 ice cubes, 1 cup of Fat free milk, 2 Tablespoons of low fat vannila yogurt, 2 Teaspoons of Whey powder. These are your basic ingredients and will be in every smoothie you consume. Now you add fresh or frozen fruit of any kind (about a cup) and 2 Teaspoons of peanut butter OR 1 pack of cooked instant oatmeal and blend (this usally makes two servings). A serving will be 12 to 16 ounces and can be drank up to 6 times a day spaced apart at every 2 to 3 hours.

A few teaspoons of flax seed spread over salads or added to smoothies is a good addition. Just remember to try to cook from Raw and add sea salt for flavor.

You can do smoothies all day or you can combine the other foods as snacks and meals. I really do wish I could name the book (Diet). Snacks can be a cup of low fat yogurt and a boiled egg or an egg sandwich on 100% Whole grain bread. I really hope this will help. Incorporating bananas and asparagus as part of this diet will help keep the kidneys flushed from sodium. If sodium is the cause of your HBP, this should be a cure.

I'd like some hint as to the title of the book that has this diet info, if possible. I have a friend who has been really struggling to keep her bp down, and hasn't found a long-lasting fix yet. Thanks!