Heart Medication Side Effects
For High BP: Norvasc (new)
For High BP: Lisinopril (new)
For Thyroid: Lovastatin (taken this for years)
For High Cholesterol - Ledothyroxin (taken this for years)
Does anyone have any supplement recommendations to help with the medication side effects? Do you think the fatigue is related to her blood pressure dropping so low after the sleeping pill fiasco? She cannot go off the meds for various reasons, so supplements to replace the nutrients the meds are zapping her system is the current goal.
Many many thanks in advance to anyone who can advise.
@Belinda: About 3 yrs ago, I suddenly developed all the conditions you describe. All these diseases are a result of the western diet. That is, the body cannot properly digest, metabolize, and eliminate the foods & liquids presented it, resulting in the retention of fats & water.
To help the body perform these vital functions, begin taking, in small amounts, a daily women's multivitamin & mineral supplement w/ whole foods and enzymes. Get the most complete women's multi on the shelf at local health food store. Also, on the get list is Kelp, Coconut Oil, Apple Cider Veniger (ACV).
Read all labels for recommended dosage and start well below that dose as the need for pharmaceutical medication will begin to decline and will slowly reduce the mg's of meds. This process of increasing the nutrients and decreasing the meds could take a yr or more.
* ... just remembered that I forgot to add either Himalayan Pink Salt or Iodized Sea Salt to your grocery list. These are natural or non-processed salts that contain much needed minerals for the body.
(New York, Ny)
08/03/2014
@B: Very glad to help, and start w/ small pinches and go slow w/ the natural salt also. The multi & Kelp also have minerals.
Another item which might help tremendously is Bee Pollen. I was bed-ridden for over a yr once and Kelp & Bee Pollen very much helped me out of the bed and using a wheelchair and soon a walker. Bee Pollen is the most nutritious dense food on the planet. First timers must always start w/ only a few grains for a few days then up to a spoon daily and 1 spoon 2x daily.
Herbs
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High Blood Pressure Diet
I have blood pressure issues. I've been reading about natural cures and about all the food to stay away from. It would be much easier for me to know what foods I can eat. I love to cook and I love to eat so it is very hard for me to change my very bad habits. I need some good suggestions on healthy meal ideas. Can anyone offer some input?
(Florida)
11/07/2014
Bonbon Please let me know if you have any more questions regarding this reply I sent you. And please let me know your progress after a few weeks. I swear by olive leaf extract.Google it. :-)
Olive leaf extract works great for reducing blood pressure. Take it as instructed and after about three weeks you will see a big difference.Two people on medication are now medication free. Also, hawthorn berry helps stabilize it once its dropped. You can also take garlic, which is excellent for blood pressure.T ake the olive leaf and hawthorn berry in liquid extract form. Your body ingests more through liquids than through pills. I take all of my vitamins in liquid extract form. Also, niacin is great for breaking up plaque in the arteries. You will get itchy and turn red for about twenty minutes or so after taking niacin, but that just means its opening up the capillaries and your blood is circulationg. That feeling will go away. It doesnt last too long. I hope this helps.
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05/09/2016
Dear Meadow,
I am not sure why you began using baking soda. But here is my 2 cents. We, in our family have had a spectrum of the modern issues re health. Between all 6 of us it has been 10 solid years of undoing tremendous damage. My side of the family is all low blood pressure and low body temp. Each of my children are different in this regard. What struck me was your response to baking soda.
My daughter with the most debilitating issues had the same response to baking soda. When we started that and vitamin c she had problems. They made her issues worsen. We stopped hers. She got the best results with correcting her absorption of nutrients. Not one remedy worked. She blended and chopped every morsel of food. Took bromelain enzyme and n acetyl cystine as the precursor to glutathione and quercetin to reduce reactions to foods and supplements.
If you have trouble with baking soda and get a headache I suspect you may have some problems as our bodies produce bicarbonate for digestion and headaches are a symptom of digestive issues.
Just a thought. Janet
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High Blood Pressure/Adrenal Connection
i am a new member of this great website. having had problems over the years with my high bp...my doctors have finally come to the conclusion that the cause is my adrenal gland. no medication would work or had very bad side effects. with the bp rising to almost 190/144..and even more if a bad day, i had several tests done - which showed that my adrenal gland produces too much of aldesterone. after a final test to see which adrenal gland is playing up - which i can tell you was painful and very long...yippi...we found it was the left one...or was it...?
of course, the docs are not determined to remove the adrenal gland to bring my bp back to normal, or so they say. however, i am not convinced that this stressful test is reliable and what are problems coming after?
i am very curious to hear about anyone's experiences with alternative remedies to this problem - i know, i have to loose a bit of weight and i am quite busy in my job. i do however do a daily walk with our dog and have recently started with a shiatsu massage.. but i would be so so so so grateful for your help and feedback because i do worry about it all and want to find a solution and get healthy.
thanks so much
susan
(Port Huron, Mi)
01/26/2011
In response to Susan: I have a similar situation. A few years ago I was a normal weight, maybe slightly underweight due to a slightly overactive thyroid. Overall, I was healthy and I have always had LOW blood pressure. Usually averaged about 150/50. Over the last several months my health has declined rapidly. I have gained about 60 pounds, I have rashes around my eyes and mouth, my hair is falling out, and my memory is failing. There are many other things but those are among the most troubling. I had an electrolyte panel done and my potassium, sodium, and bun levels were all low. I requested a test for ADH but, for some reason, it was not done. When I asked my doctor about it, he told me it was done and it was normal; however, I had acquired a copy of the results without his knowledge and I knew that was a false statement.
Yesterday, I went to a rheumatologist and, although she has no idea what is wrong with me, she requested more blood work. She is having my serum cortisol tested, as well as aldosterone to renin ratio. I didn't even have to ask. I do not have the results yet but I will post as soon as I find out.
What was interesting is she told me that there is a type of high blood pressure that is linked to low potassium. She has that problem herself and she takes blood pressure medication (which raises potassium) along with two potassium tablets daily. She said she's not sure if that's what is happening to me but she would look into it. I guess it's rare but I don't recall what she called it. I take potassium daily and it seems my body can't get enough. I take tablets everywhere I go so that when my muscles begin to tighten I can take one. If I don't then I start having muscle spasms and heart palpitations. I don't understand why my body is using so much potassium but I hope to find out.
I would appreciate any additional information on this topic that might help.
(Charlotte)
10/08/2022
Hello, I had labs drawn n my potassium was low also and high b/p so I wonder what the connection is, please keep me posted anyone if you have had this experience, please post about it.
(Missouri)
01/28/2025
Magnesium if very important as well as up to 50,000 IU (or mg?) of Vit. D3 with K2. Dr. Eric Berg, chiropractor and nutritionist, on YT is very helpful regarding high BP and everything else. He has over 13 million viewers and is very reputable and knowledgeable.
(San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines)
01/27/2011
Hi Arias... Your situation would seem to indicate several deficiencies.
Regarding your heart problems, I also had leg muscle cramps, irregular heart beat and dizziness when I had systemic candida. There are two supplements that will help this condition tremendously. Magnesium and Lugol's Iodine. I used both in my own remedy for this problem. Supplementing with two to four drops of 5% Lugol's Iodine per day as well as supplementing with 250 mgs Magnesium (as Mag Chloride, Mag Citrate or Mag Gluconate) twice a day.
You are currently taking potassium, which will surely help you. Unfortunately, without taking sufficient magnesium, which both regulates the potassium as well as calcium in your cells, then the proper beneficial effects of potassium won't be fully affected or felt.
As well, without a proper magnesium balance, calcium usually builds up in excess -- causing acidity in the tissues. This causes pain and fatigue. What would also help you would be to avoid any dairy for a while -- no milk, yoghurts, ice cream, cheese etc and see if this makes a difference. I mention this because all processed food these days are all too over-fortified with calcium and lacks the presence and regulating effects of magnesium. Therefore, too much intracellular acidity, due to excess calcium, is created in our tissue cells.
Almost certainly you have a low iodine intake dietary problem since it is well known that low iodine in diet causes imbalances in lipid (fat) and glucose regulation in the body. Have a look at this link:
The Iodine/Glucose/Lipid Metabolism Connection
Many of your problems also seem to relate to low thyroid iodine. Taking Lugol's Iodine will also help your thyroid as well as your heart problems. Adrenal fatigue problems are also invariably linked and associated with thyroid problems. The Magnesium supplement works synergistically with iodine and should also greatly help any arthritic or rheumatic problems as well. See these links:
Magnesium Chloride - Medical History
Magnesium Chloride Research(PDF)
Check-out using Magnesium Oil transdermally here:
EC - Using Transdermal Magnesium Oil
What I would also do is protect your own liver. If you do this you will also be protecting your blood and hormonal balance. The best way to do this is to take the following supplements:
Milk Thistle -- 1000 gms twice a day
Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day
Selenium -- 200 micrograms once or twice Day
Take the above supplements with food at lunch and dinner. It is also advisable to take standard B50 complex dosages since the above combination of supplements tends to deplete vitamin B in the body.
This is a Triple Antioxidant Therapy that protects more than just the liver. Try and purchase the Methylselnocysteine form of Selenium. This form of Selenium will add a further two antioxidants to the mix -- methylation and cysteine -- adding the little-known methyl group for important methylation -- also essential for the body and particularly for the brain in terms of energy and anti-oxidant protection. The cysteine portion also is a building block in the formation of Glutathione -- another useful anti-oxidant which helps to neutralize toxins and poisons in the liver.
Selenium also functions to improve the action of other anti-oxidants like Vitamins E, C, Glutathione and CoQ10. Taking the above supplements will therefore greatly strengthen your immune system -- and will act on more than just the liver.
To get a much better idea of other problems, perhaps you should also get a hair mineral analysis done. This is fairly cheap and will tell you of any further mineral deficiencies as well as any dangerous excessive levels of fluoride or heavy metals in your body which could also be causing you problems.
I also see that you live in Michigan, up by the Great Lakes. This region is well know for having low iodine in the soil (due to glacier formation in the past leeching out useful minerals and iodine from the soil). This region is well known as being a goiter belt in the past.
The Great Lakes is also an area where a large amount of nuclear waste from the US and Canada is stored (over 31 nuclear waste sites now proliforate in this region) -- and particularly waste from Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors. There has already been an outcry over this, particularly if the fluoride finds its way into the water supplies and soils of the region. But the US Govt does nothing about it. All the more reason then to supplement with Lugol's for protection against this possible fluoride poisoning in the water supply.
(Waco, Texas)
06/07/2013
I have diabetes and hypothyroidism. I started dieting in January to help control my diabetes and also because I am overweight. My thyroid issue is kinda of in control but I am having trouble with my blood pressure. The doctor wants to put me on meds but I'm really trying to find a natural remedy to avoid taking meds. Please let me know what I can do to lower it. Thanks. Lupe.
(Manitoba, Canada)
10/20/2013
Regarding...
"Milk Thistle -- 1000 gms twice a day
Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day
Selenium -- 200 micrograms once or twice Day
Take the above supplements with food at lunch and dinner. It is also advisable to take standard B50 complex dosages since the above combination of supplements tends to deplete vitamin B in the body"
Is this safe to do while breastfeeding?
Homeopathy
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After examining MY HUSBAND this is what he prescribed FOR HIM: he has instructed him to take 5ml daily until BP is 135/85 then every other day. (we have added in CoQ10, msm, bcomplex vitamin, ______ vitamin c, and fulvic-humic acid minerals, a good fish oil) - ALL but the Coq10 the kids and I take regularly and my husband takes sporadically 'when he remembers' but NOW he's taking them faithfully) Anyhow I will post back with updates in the weeks to come, but this is looking promising. While sometimes WE KNOW EXACTLY what we have to do and SHOULD be doing, sometimes it is not that easy and it takes something drastic to put us back on the right path ;-) This tincture is IMO "THE" reason his blood pressure has dropped drastically in 3 days. I would not recommend exploring this without the help of a practitioner but it's something you can take with you, research etc. when you go!!
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(Pompano, Fla)
02/02/2010
i just read your message, you drink five cups a day, is it 8 ounces? i take blood pressure pills, thyroid medication, fish gel tablet once a day, and flax seed, will drinking this hot cocoa every day 5 cups, please clarify this for me. i heard about the cinnamon and hot cocoa together. please respond back. cindy
Samlaunch has stated:
"Hot Cocoa...will fix high blood pressure. I checked my resting pulse rate at 82-beats per minute resting last night. After drinking the hot chocolate, my pulse dropped to 62-beats per minute resting heart rate."
Since heart beats are *NOT* equivalent to blood pressure ... the number of heart beats does *NOT* indicate one's blood pressure.
In fact, Caffeine is actually known to *restrict* blood vessels (& thus the blood flow through blood vessels) & thus to *raise* blood pressure....
"Caffeine may cause a short...dramatic *increase* in...[BP], even if you don't have [HBP]. It's unclear what causes this spike.... The [BP] response to caffeine differs from person to person....
"Some...who regularly drink caffeinated beverages have a higher average [BP] than...those who drink none. Others who regularly drink caffeinated beverages develop a tolerance.... As a result, caffeine doesn't have a long-term effect on their [BP]...."
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03/16/2022
I am just wondering if you have to keep at this or does your blood pressure go to normal and stay that way?
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(Austin, Tx)
12/30/2008
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I had an injury to my tongue from biting it. The dentist recommended using a product called Peroxyl, which is just a flavored 1.5% hydrogen peroxide solution. It helped the injury to heal, but as a by-product my blood pressure was lowered significantly. I did go beyond recommended usage. How much hydrogen peroxide is enough and how is dosage determined? It is easy to find food grade H2O2 at 3%.
(NC)
06/22/2023
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Kefir
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An electrician, aged about 35 years, in my town had some skin problem. He went to a Skin Specialist for treatment. The doctor prescribed a powerful medicine (antibiotic/steroids) for him. The doctor did not specify any probiotic treatment after the powerful treatment. His skin problem cleared in two days. Two weeks after the treatment, he had very severe headache. He went to his GP for a check-up. The GP did many tests and finally told him that he had very high blood pressure (220/180) and some people might not survive at this high blood pressure. The doctor prescribed some medicines for high blood pressure. On my advice, he also took one cup of milk Kefir ( a probiotic food ) in the morning on empty stomach. In two week time, his blood pressure returned to normal level (120/80).
It seems that the powerful medicine eliminated not only the bad bacteria responsible for his skin problem but also the nitric acid generating probiotic bacteria (L.Plantarm, L. Rhamnosus and L. Fermentum) in his digestive system. Since sufficient nitric oxide was not generated in his digestive system, the stiff blood vessels were not dilated. Because of this, his blood pressure went very high. Since Kefir contains nitric acid generating bacteria, he was cured of his high blood pressure problem in two week time. in my opinion, probiotic treatment after an antibiotic/steroids treatment can be anyone of the following two or both:
1) Take one cup of milk kefir in the morning on empty stomach for two weeks.
2)Take probiotic capsules or liquids containing some or all probiotic strains mentioned below. The medical problems and the probiotic strains needed to cure/prevent the associated medical problems as mentioned in the research papers available in the net are:
1) Diabetes Type 2 - L. Casei and L. Achidophilus.
2) MRSA Infection - L.Casei And L. Achidophilus.
3) C. Diff - L. Casei, L. Achidophilus and L. Reuteri.
4) High Blood Pressure - L. Plantarum, L. Rhamnosus and L. Fermentum.
5) Vitamin B2 Deficiency - L. Fermentum.
6) Vitamin B9 Deficiency - L. Plantarum.
7) Vitamin D and B12 Deficiencies - L. Reuteri.
8) Heart Disease - B. Longum, L. Plantarum and L. Reuteri.
9) Severe Constipation - B. Longum, B. Infantis, B. Breve and B. Lactis.
Kefir does not contain any Bifidum bacteria. Bifidum bacteria names starts with B. (e.g. B. Longum). Milk Kefir I use, does not contain L. Reuteri. If anybody knows any corrections or addition to the above list, please let me know.
There is an article available in the net on "Milk Kefir Remedies for High Blood Pressure" by John of Melbourne. He says that he solved his blood pressure problem by drinking milk kefir.
Best Wishes P. Raghavan.
In reply to P. Raghavan (Virudhunagar, Tn, India),
While I have no doubt whatsoever that kefir is a healthful source of probiotics and probiotics can be beneficial to human health, how can you be sure that it was not the hypertension meds that his doctor prescribed that caused the massive reduction in blood pressure as opposed to the kefir or possibly a combination of the meds and kefir?
Kefir has studies behind it that suggest it may be helpful for hypertension, but I haven't seen any studies yet that have shown such a massive reduction in blood pressure so quickly by itself. It seems that for the sake of safety in cases of hypertension where the pressure readings are so dangerously excessive, it may be safer to first let the doctor get the blood pressure down to a safer range before experimenting with kefir.
If a person's blood pressure is 220/180, it is absolutely possible that they can die or have a major health event from that condition. The way you described this anecdote, some readers may get the impression that kefir alone may be able to bring this aggressively high blood pressure down to the normal range and may decide to try kefir instead of seeking immediate medical attention.
If the kefir alone doesn't happen to work for them, the potential for death or serious health event may increase significantly. Because of the potential for serious health consequences of very high blood pressure, it might be safer to err on the side of caution in cases of such high blood pressure / hypertension.
Art
(Vancouver)
01/01/2017
A very happy, healthy and blessed New year to everyone at Earthclinic.. This simple logic of antibiotics killing the bad n the good bacteria together does sound Correct n believable as my own health went totally downhill 14 years ago after a complicated pregnancy n child birth and umpteen amount of antibiotics n painkillers like Tylenol 3s for months all together.
My question is about the regular yogurt that we East Indians set at home everyday,, is it not effective enough? And also if I start with probiotics when is the best time to take them? Thank you so much for all your detailed n informative posts..
(Virudhunagar, Tn, India)
01/02/2017
Meenu,
Regular yogurt contains only two probiotic strains namely: L. Bulgarius and S. Thermophilus. Some manufacturers of yogurt add one or two probiotic strains like L. Achidophilus, L. Casei, etc. Since regular yogurt contains only a limited number of probiotic strains, its benefits are also limited. On the other hand, Kefir contains about 30 probiotic strains . So its benefits are many: increased life expectancy, less number of medical problems, increases energy level, etc. If you find a milk kefir starter which also contain L. Reuteri, its benefits will increase considerably. You can take Kefir when the stomach acid level is very low like early in the morning on empty stomach.
Best Wishes P. Raghavan.
(Virudhunagar, Tn, India)
01/04/2017
Art,
As per your statement, high blood pressure problem mentioned in my thread, might have been cured by one of the following:
1) Kefir
2) High blood pressure medications
3) Kefir and high blood pressure medications
The electrician developed high blood pressure problem immediately after an antibiotic/steroids treatment. It is well known that any antibiotic/steroids treatment will disturb probiotic balance in the digestive system. The current high blood pressure medications are : Diuretics, Beta blockers, ACE inhibitors, Calcium channel blockers, etc. These medications will not correct the probiotic balance in the digestive system. Also, I knew three people who were Diabetes Type 2 with high blood pressure problem, took Kefir to cure Diabetes Type 2 problem. To their surprise, their high blood pressure problems were also solved. All these three people became Diabetes Type 2 with high blood pressure problem after antibiotic treatments. My opinion is that Kefir cured the high blood problem in the above case.
I agree with you that if anyone with high blood pressure problem want to try Kefir routine, they should not give up their blood pressure medications.
Also, Kefir should not be taken if
1) they are allergic to Kefir or
2) they have chronic migraines or
3) they have compromised immune systems such as those undergoing Chemotherapy.
If one wants to try Kefir routine for high blood pressure problem, the person may read 33 Kefir user reviews available in webmd and also articles on Kefir in livestrong.com. If possible one can do lab stool testing to determine probiotic deficiencies of nitric oxide generating probiotic bacteria ( L. Plantarum, L. Rhamnosus and L. Fermentum ). Probiotic deficiency of a particular strain can be determined by counting the number of bacteria of the particular strain in a unit volume of stool and comparing with those of healthy individuals. If there are probiotic deficiencies of nitric oxide generating bacteria, there is a very good chance that Kefir will work. Otherwise it may not work since the underling cause for high blood problem may be different.
Best wishes P. Raghavan.
In reply to P. Raghavan (Virudhunagar, Tn, India),
My main concern was the extremely elevated blood pressure level. I am a firm believer in good gut bacteria having healing qualities of many types, but anyone with pressure readings that high should be under a doctors supervision until the blood pressure is lowered and stable in something closer to the normal range before attempting to see what kefir can do for them. This is a case of safety first because blood pressure that high can be fatal if not brought under control fairly quickly.
I think you already know that I am a follower of your posts regarding kefir and probiotics and I appreciate your posts because you come back regularly to update and follow up on your previous posts plus you also add information about the research that has lead to your conclusions. Thank you for your posts and I hope you keep them up!
Art
Kefir
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One lady in my town took one cup of Kefir in the moring on empty stomach for 8 weeks. The lady was suffering high blood pressure and was Diabetes 2. After this Kefir routine, her blood pressure is now normal and she is not diabete now. Another man who was suffering from high blood pressure did the same Kefir routine. His blood pressure is normal now.
Just because this Kefir routine cleared two people from high blood pressure problem, it will be hard to think it will work for everyone. But one can try this Kefir routine since there is nothing to loose.
(Virudhunagar, Tn, India)
02/14/2017
Probiotic Capsules for High Blood Pressure
One of the reasons for high blood pressure problem is the probiotic imbalance in the digestive system. Probiotic imbalance is caused by :
1) Antibiotic / Steroid Treatment,
2) Stress,
3) High fat diet ( Animal fat and Vegetable fat ),
4) Sedentary Lifestyle,
5) Smoking,
6) Alcohol, etc.
According to research papers available in the net, there are probiotic (friendly) bacteria in the digestive system that can generate nitric oxide from the food we eat. Nitric oxide will join the blood stream and dilate all stiff blood vessels in the body. The nitric oxide generating bacteria mentioned in these papers are : 1) L. Plantarum 2) L. Rhamnosus 3) L. Fermentum. If there are deficiencies of nitric oxide generating bacteria in the digestive system, high blood pressure problem will develop.
There are multi strain probiotic capsules available for about us dollar 28 ( 60 capsules ) in Amazon.com. Its name is : ULTRA-30 Probiotics - 18 strains - 60 capsules. This capsule contains L. Plantarum, L. Rhamnosus and L. Fermentum. Among these three probiotic strains, L. Plantarum plays a critical role. The simple procedure to solve the high blood pressure problem is as follows :
" Take one probiotic capsule in the morning 30 minutes before breakfast for 60 days " .
If the high blood problem is not solved in 60 days, then the reason for high blood pressure problem is other than probiotic imbalance like :
1) Genetics,
2) Chronic kidney disease,
3) Ardenal and Thyroid disorder,
4) Sleep Apnea, etc.
My guess is that high blood pressure problem will be solved by this procedure for more than 60 % of the people.
Best Wishes
P. Raghavan.
(Iowa, Usa)
02/15/2017
P Raghavan,
As it happens, I have just returned from spending a week with my parents and was dismayed to see that my mother, while taking excellent care of my father, has stopped making time for the habits that used to sustain her in excellent health. I have ordered probiotics for her and will follow up with your instructions. Your method seems to be a very logical way to find out the source of her elevated blood pressure. Thank you for sharing it.
