
Maybe a skin test would be a good recommendation for people before trying colloidal silver. Wear some silver jewellery for a couple of days and check for a reaction.
Cheers to everyone. Love this website. It is my favourite go to website for natural remedies coz everyone's input gives ya a well rounded perspective of the effectiveness of certain remedies and how they've helped as well as adversely affected different people.
Happy New Year To Everyone
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The majority of recent studies suggest that particle size is a very important point when it comes to the effectiveness of colloidal silver and either too small or too large is not optimal. From those studies it appears that a particle size range in the 12~20nm range is optimal for antibacterial and antiviral activity. Particles much larger than 20 nm are less effective against viral and bacterial pathogens while particles below 10 nm are much more toxic to normal cells.......especially below 5nm.
In terms of parts per million, it would be easier to say how much silver is actually in a given dose in mgs. For example, if you take one tablespoon of 320 ppm CS or you take one cup of 20 ppm colloidal silver, you have ingested the same amount of silver either way or roughly 5mg of silver particles.
Regarding the skin discoloration you mentioned in the area where you applied silver, did you use ionic silver or colloidal silver? Ionic silver is smaller than colloidal silver and can directly enter cells, but once inside it can bind to many things such as selenium or chloride as two typical examples, but once it binds it becomes too large to leave the cell and is trapped in the cell. Since this was a topical application, these cells would be close to the skin surface and solar rays can react with these silver based products causing a photo reaction that appears as a dark spot. I believe this is a process similar to how black and white photographs are developed.
Colloidal silver on the other hand, when applied topically is too large to enter cells as ionic silver does. While CS can release ions, it is no where near the amount as you would get with a product that is 80% ionic or more. Another important difference between ionic silver and colloidal silver is that ionic silver has been shown to be up to 25 times more toxic to normal human cells.
Unfortunately, we consumers are in a tough spot when trying to determine if a commercial product is really colloidal silver or ionic silver because almost all manufacturers describe their products as "colloidal silver", even if they are wholly or mostly ionic silver and some products are mostly colloidal silver, but are also likely to contain a significant amount of ionic silver if not fully reduced to colloidal silver.. Generally, if the product is in a blue or brown bottle or it appears to be colorless like water, it is probably ionic silver. Reducing ionic silver to colloidal silver is another expense for CS manufacturers and consequently the majority of available products will be ionic silver or mostly ionic silver. If the product in question is in the yellow to brown color range, it is probably at least partially reduced colloidal silver.
In terms of cost, retail CS is expensive. Making it yourself requires an initial outlay that isn't always cheap, but once you have the correct equipment and materials to make high quality colloidal silver, it is very inexpensive to make it for the rest of your life.
The only way to be sure of what you have and what quality it is, is to make it yourself since no manufacturer that I am aware of actually describes their manufacturing process in detail. A good quality generator that at least has current regulation is a must and a computer controlled generator is the best in order to make high quality colloidal silver each and every batch.
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Also...if using topically, be aware that it will heal skin lesions beautifully, but I have first hand experience with the sun reactions that will leave darkness and discoloration where the CS is used. LOL...so I have an amazingly beautiful surface that would almost certainly have been a raised scar, but I didn't know about the sun and even with my daily sunscreen, the specific spot that I used to treat is pretty severely discolored. I had a second spot that I covered with a bandaid b'c the wound was worse and that spot looks like more perfect skin than it was before the wound. (The wounds were a bug bite of unknown origin, but possibly spider or tick bites and were pretty scary looking...) Sorry so long...
These remedies will kill the infections and promote cellular regeneration or healing and so you can get your taste & smell back right away.
The event of the Colloidal Silver damaging your sinuses is an indication that your antioxidant status is poor. Increase your antioxidant foods as well as supplementation.
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To kill the bacteria fix two small copper wires to a 9 volt battery making sure they don't touch each other and submerge into the C.S. bottle for a few minutes. To be sure, empty the contents into a cooking pot and boil for a few minutes. And maybe repeat the zap again.
You may consider buying and making your own C.S. as no protein is added, and no problem.
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Your body weight x 12 divided my PPM = number of drops. Example, if you're 125 pounds, and you're using a 10 ppm colloidal silver solution, you'd multiply 12 times 125 = 1,500. Then divide 1,500 by 10 (ppm), which is 150.
So at a body weight of 125 pounds, you can safely take 150 drops of colloidal silver per day, for your entire life, according to the Silver Safety Council. That's a little bit over a teaspoonful a day.
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A few yrs back, prior to my own generator, I purchased a Silver product and seemed to encounter a staff infection or something in the gut. I researched and found that C.S. bound to protein has problems w/ shelf life or heat which can decompose the protein. Anyway, I heated the product on cooking stove and continued using w/ no more problems.
Presntly, in the attempt to treat chronic fungal & mycoplasma infection, I take 2 caps Berberine 2 caps Oregon Grape, then a hot bath w/ Borax and Iodine. Fallowing the bath I drink about 8oz C.S., all with a few days improvement.
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Re Colloidal Silver production methods.
Thank you so much for relaying your method. Your method is the opposite of how I do mine. Yours is slow and does not use any conductive add in, while I use a bit of salt, and I call mine "fast"....not using the term "slow" as derisive...your's could be more effective than mine.
Wouldn't it be interesting to compare and contrast on effectiveness. You've obvioulsly gotten good results from your "slow" process as I from my "fast" method.
Once I did use another commercial "super" silver supposedly producing very small particulates of silver and tried it on my stuborn (allergy caused?) sinus stuffiness. Had it since youth and so every year would have five or six bad colds. Often that would turn into bronchitis. But twenty years ago started up on the CS (fast method is how I was taught by a very tech smart guy)...and since then no colds except maybe once every two years and only two cases of broncitis in 20 years.
But I digress (which often I do), and relate the rest of the story: I was taking the super commercial brand of very small particle CS every day and, what do you know, suddenly I start up with a sinus infection. Can tell they are coming in a minute. So doubled up on the commercial super CS and the sinus infection got worse!
Doubled up again. Worse...and then knew I had to go to my "dirty low down fast CS" and BAM! ...knocked the infection out in one App!
So that taught me a big lesson. Not all CSs are equally potent and some may be worthless.
What I'd love to try is some study which actually tried different CSs both in vivo and vitro. But remember: "In Vivo veritas" so the practical use and effect on a living human is superior to lab results from petri dishes. That's why our anacdotal results are compelling even though not double blind.
I have tons of anacdotals...how bout you?
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Let me share my C.S. production story. I bought a unit from AtlasNova which promotes a "slow cook" for up to 12 hrs at a 300 hz? power for the smallest particle at dense concentration. I don't have a meter so I can't tell ppm but the company supplies a laser light to help gage density. I cook 1/2 gallon mason jar batch at approx 500?(reading on ohmeter thingy) for about 4 hrs. I do not heat or add salt. To speed the process A.N. recommends adding a few spoons of C.S. from the previous batch (i find no real difference either way here).
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On your unopened brown bottle of CS. Of course, you can use it. But why just external? I said on this EC site probably fifty times that I drink CS regularly and have for 20 years. For sore throat I gargle with it and poof, sore throat gone. If this were me, not knowing the effect of CS and having a nice little brown bottle of the stuff just sitting there looking pretty, well I'd at least experiment with it the first sinus infection I got. For sinus infection, I put in palm of my hand and sniff into sinus...it will sting on both sides but on one side more than the other. Repeat ten min later. Usually, drainage follows and 90 percent of the time the infection is gone.
Best to you,
Dave
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When I read the victim of CS article I thought the same thing...this is a planted story.
So I wrote to the writer, but assumed the story was for real and asked the writer to describe in detail how the dad made the CS. We KNOW that properly made CS will not cause argyria. We know from experience. But I've been trying to find a few people who do suffer with argyria to find the way they made their CS. What in the world were they doing? The correct ...non "toxic" method is so simple, it's baffling to me how someone could get it wrong ... so I keep asking. One writer a month or so ago on EC said someone in his neighborhood had argyria and so I wrote that poster back and asked him if he could just contact that neighbor to make an inquiry. Poster wrote back that...no...the neighbor with argyria had moved...or something like that.
So I keep "challengling" someone to tell me how the argyria victim actually produced his product and just can't find anybody who will "fess up" with details.
The issue that is unresolved with CS makers...is this: we all (except some odd group that get argyria) use the electric process...right?...OK, so the question is how to proceed ... by using a few grains of salt in the heated water to get conductive process quickly or to not add anything and just wait for thirty minutes, the latter being what I call the "slow" method. That method apparently produces a surface area of the silver particles less than the quicker method. The quicker method gives a larger surface area. But that is not necessairly bad. I've read articles that discuss the advantage of large surface area and have actually had my cs tested at a lab in comparison with two other commercial brands. Only difference in the photos of the three was surface area. Mine was a bit larger (visually).
I keep looking for a technical analysis that is definative: Mainly looking for a double blind study that demonstrates the superiority of one over the other. I'm open minded on this. My way may not be the best way but the way I've done it has worked for 20 years.
Steve, do you make your own; and if so by what method?
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So sorry to hear about your dad and his argyria.
You said he made his own CS. Could you tell me how he did it. I've been looking for someone for a long time to tell me what process is used where the bad skin coloring side effects took place.
I've made my own for 20 years nearly and drink it five days a week and use topically and as an irrigation if infected. No side effects.
Again, I'm so sorry for what happened to your father. I too had a wonderful father and I gave him CS to drink daily for about fifteen years. His immune system was compromised and I had him on the CS to help kill fungal and viral invaders. He died at 88 years old of diabetes related issues. And his skin was as white as mine.
So because you were willing to write about your dad, would you please describe exactly how he made the Silver product he consumed. For instance, did he use strands of silver or pieces of silver? Did he use an electrical method or some other means of deriving the silver solution? Was the final product a "creamy" product or invisible in water? How often did he consume the product? How did he consume it?...by mouth on applied to skin? Anything you can do to describe his protocol in producing the silver product plus how he ingested the product might help others not to repeat in like manner.
Many of us who make CS would really appreciate knowing how this happened...argyria.
Thank you,
dave
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Eating food that grew in healthy soil will get you all the silver you need. If need be, build up your soil through natural means (compost, manure), then grow your own food. This is how to get a balance of all trace minerals. Do you suppose that a worm or other bug would be able to survive in a high concentration of silver?
Look up and see which nutrients are essential for health, then see the amounts needed. Iron is one, but if you take very much at all, you get a headache. It is the balance of nutrients in your body that keeps you well. Arsenic is also a trace mineral, but you certainly don't want to take any discernable amount or it will kill you.
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I purchased some silver from a place that really seems to know there stuff when it comes to herbs, minerials ect. They even do hair test. They sale 500PPM that is dark brown. My local health food store sales sovereign silver which is clear and 10PPM. The guy at the health food store says this is absolutly the very best. On curezone, lots of debate on color and PPM.
Since silver is a metal, Is it safe??? And if so, what PPM and color should the silver be??? It did seem to make my sons dry cough go away using the clear 10PPM.
I need some guidance on this subject and there is a lady out there that swears silver is not safe and turned her skin grey and it is permenant. She says people often visit her website and are embarrassed after they trusted manufacturers and took the silver and it turned them grey as well.
I don't see where you or Ted talk about silver to much. What about Gold also as long as we are on the subject.
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I would still love to get any reader feedback.
blessings, cw
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He does not drink enough water which I am always after him to do. I'm thinking he may need to drink more to flush out his tissues? I'm just wondering if anyone else has experienced this?
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I did not expect to experience very bad cold sweats, and nausea, this coldness and sweat will not go away, and is very debilitating resulting in many changes of clothes, also aching gums, and tiredness, is this a continuing herxeimer effect, or am I not doing something right? I have a healthy diet with lots of fruit and veg, and have lately started taking live yogurt, and also lemon juice.