ACV for Arthritis: Effective Natural Pain Relief

Hi can I suggest that you start taking MSM.. As well I'll post shortly with regards to my wife's battle with RA. It seems that after taking it for a few days it compilments all the other stuff and the various conditions improve exponentialy. Just about every modern food has had this essential ingredient removed, The science on the Calcium and potasium cycle is reasonably well known but the Sulphur cycle appears to be missed until recently. Unfortunately, modern man might in the future have to supplement this.

Thanks for the information. I had to look up MSM first, I had no idea what it was. This weekend I will have a look what brands are available at the chemist.

I am wondering if the teaspoon borax a day is a bit much? I have headaches the last 3 days and also often feel nauseous. It is not conditions that I normally get.

CRIPES!!!!! Just lick your finger shove it into the Borax and swirl it around in an 8oz grlass of water.. Thats the rule of thumb amount. What your taking is heading for toxicity.

Yes, I got that a bit wrong! I've read up on Boron/Borax sites now too and have adjusted the amount of borax to that what clings to a wet fingertip.

If the lumps on my fingers continue to recede at this rate I will be able able to report "CURED! " soon.

Right Hand can close properly already with all 4 fingers almost straight, bending properly and touching the palm. Can use it properly now, no pain when using it.

Left hand ring finger was always unafflicted, pinky still skew but almost no swelling of the joints and already touching the palm, this is the only finger where both joints were afflicted. Index finger still skew with fairly swollen joint and not close to touching palm, middle finger was worst, still skew, joint still huge but protruding hump almost gone, still not bending much but getting better daily.

Looking forward to adding the MSM to the brew.

Thank God you had us worried. I moved two ton of wood yesterday bending and lifting.. Six months ago I would have been laid up for a month. Ive no pain in the lower back area at all. Ginger tumeric and cayenne sorted it out really well but I still had to be carefull, but since adding the MSM its the third week since starting it.. And it feels like their never was a problem. It has done something on a very basic level. I'm 64 years old and getting more supple than I've been for a very long time.

Sounds great Gavin! Keep up the good work! I wonder why it is so hard for people to try the natural cures instead of all the chemicals that they gladly swallow at huge costs?

My dad was a great "home doctor", he had a remedy for every ailment. He had a concoction for burns that worked so well. Wish I could get the recipe somewhere. It was yellowish and a bit oily. I know there was lime in it. It was either slaked lime or agricultural lime. (don't know if my translation to english is correct) When my mom wanted to make some more years after my dad passed on she was told that she can't buy/use it as it is toxic.

Gavin I was just wondering if you mixed the ginger, tumeric, and cayenne together? Or if you took it seperately?

Hi sharon. I actualy cut the ginger into thin slices about a inch by half inch cube.. Chop some garlic like two to three cloves and give them a quick stir fry in a wok... Then push it over to one side and fry some organic bread untill its crispy.. Im using grapeseed oil... Then flip the bread out and put the garlic and ginger on top... Then the cayenne gets pressed into the corner of the bread, and a bit of tumeric on top of the cvayenne... I fry an egg and pop this on top. I eat the corner with the cayenne and tumeric first. The Oil takes most of the heat out.. And then just finish the rest off... Ive been doing this everyday now for months, about noon.. And for some reason have not got tired of it. By sweating the Garlic in the wok a bit, you can eat more as its not raw. It certainly settled the back issue. But it compliments eveything, its the ACV and Honey that initialy clear the sinuses.

Hi, I'm a newcomer to Earth Clinic, and have a question for Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand. I've had osteoarthritis on my knees and lower back for some years, and recently seemed to have also developed rheumatoid arthritis in my knees and fingers. Could you please please post the details of the remedies that you use such that you are able to move two tons of wood without pain? Thanks so very much.

Sonja

I think it was about a week on cayenne, Turmeric and ginger, before I noticed that the lower back was pain free... But I take a swig of MSM. In the evenings and a dollop of honey and apple cider vinegar mornings and evenings. I started that for sinus headaches and they stopped immiediatly. I take 3mgs of boron and a kelp tablet everday. I tried a course of haluronic acid, like a month without problems then it seemed that old bone injuries were playing up, so I stopped it and in a couple of days they stopped playing up. I also have a couple of raw cloves of garlic, everday. And three capsules of fish oil. Plus a popular multi vitamin for over fifties. If all this sounds a bit much its just to cover all the bases. I dont ache any more and I have no lines or wrinkles. I'm going on 65 and feel better then I did at fifty. I'm sure the main problem was not getting essential elements.. The Mrs has slightly deformed joints wrist and foot. , but shes on basicly the same as me but hasnt had a flair up for a long time.

There's a type two collagen product they make in Canada it was reported in the prestigious science magazine Nature, that is made from chicken breast cartilidge.. It seems the nearest thing for a cure to the condition, as the trials were very positive, any review in "Nature" is subject to rigourous assesment.. In a double blind all on the chicken supplement were virtually cured.. All on the placebo showed no change.. I've ordered some from the manufacturers for the mrs.. Its called NU JOINT (sorry ec) if anyones interested.. Its either that or process your own chicken breasts.. I hope this helps.

Hi... A question for Gavin. I have tried to read exactly the amounts and what all must be used for pain in hands, arms, back and feet... Will it be possible to please send me a list of exactly what you use and also quantities, so I can get rid of the pain... Thanx!

I haven't got arthritis. The Mrs had it quite badly, but apparently its now in remission and it dosn't bother her. She takes root ginger tea, with a couple of capfulls of ACV. And a teaspoon of honey every evening. The amount of ginger is about a cubic inch diced up and put in a cup, then pore some boiling water to half fill the cup and leave it to steep for a couple of hours. When you want to drink, (save the ginger by straining the juice, and pour boiling water on it and let it steep in another cup, there still plenty of ginger oils left for another round and will be ok for another cupfull). Top the first cup up with boiling water and add the honey and vinegar. It takes a few days to feel the benifit as the ginger is acumulative. But the science says its as good as Iboprophin for pain, with no side effects. She also takes a 500mg vitamin c.

When I had a bad back the ginger cleared it up in a week, I dont know if it was arthuritis. For the past three months I've been juicing beet apple and carrots, and putting a capful of ACV with a squeeze of lemon in before drinking the concoction. This seems to be maintaining my health really well and after some exercise, like a brisk walk there is definiatly less fatigue involved than before. More than a glassful and the urine goes red, I was taking a glass morning and evening, but it seems quite potent so dropped it to a morning one.

Hi,

Try diluting the ACV in more water, I too have RA and found that it gave me heartburn too, so I put the 3 tablespoons of ACV in 500ml water (I use a water bottle for the gym) and add it to the 6 or so glasses of water that I drink throughout the day. Hope this helps.

Try ACV with Baking soda.... 2TBS apple cider vinegar with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with 6 oz of water. This will help remove the acidity of the vinegar with the same effective cure of the apple cider vinegar.

Paul posted a while ago but no one pointed out that the US tablespoon is the equivalent of the British dessertspoon which is probably the cause of the wife's heartburn. Two caps full in 8 ounces of water is good - or to taste. If honey is used it should be dissolved in warm water only as hot will destroy the beneficial enzymes.

Just a bit more on the apple cider vinegar, for arthitis. Ive found out that apparently apple trees are sprayed with Boron.. If they arn't the fruit has depressed brown spots that are the signs of the Boron deficiency.. By observing the amount of YEAS for apple cider vinegar. Then reading about the boron and arthritis thread I put two and two together. My wife dosnt like the taste of ACV. And she has Osteo arthritis... I've just taken the liberty of getting her six weeks supply of 3mg boron capsules, the fact she is post menopausal and its supposed to be the natural equivelent to HRT. As well! .. I'll stay posting on this in a few weeks to see what happens.

Just an addenum.. If the diet is low on Boron, its most likely low in all the other essential elements as well. So shes taking C..... N multivitamins as well. Plus glucosamine and Chondritin. Oh and three salmon oil capsules a day. The information ive read suggest that if your under sixty it takes a month to show improvement and if over a couple of months.

This is an update on my wife's Arthritis.. Due to all the natural cures and ideas posted. With her aquiesence I decided to "shotgun" the condition provided the "naturals" were not harmful. She is off the Prednisone with no problems. Her rhumatoid factor results are normal.. But the Rhumitologist wanted her to stay on a low dose of Methotrexate 10mg a week because he was worried it might flare up. I have the suspicion that the drug might not be standing much of a chance with regards to the amount of antioxidents in the shotgun mix. Health wise she's really good, and the condition she's had for at least twenty years isnt impacting her life at all.

Here is a list of what she's taking.. I subsituted the prednisone with a cup of ginger root tea, with a teaspoon of honey, and a cap of ACV. in it before bed.... 1000mg of vitamin C.. 3mg of Boron.. One Centrum over fifties vitamin and mineral pill.... 2 capsules of 450mg Devils claw... Selenium with ACand E... 1 zinc B6 and Magnesium... 3 high potency fish oil caspsules.... And MSM.... I had to drop the Glucosamine and Chondritin.. due to the headaches, caused by the mix of MSM and Chondritin. (thanks to whoever posted that information). These went when it was dropped.. But definitaly maintained the MSM.. I didnt want to just use Boron as copper and all the rest of the minerals are all notes in the music.. (So to speak). Theirs also a teaspoonful of virgin Coconut oil everyday. Her skin is lookin, really good and any post menopausal symptoms are non existent. In fact after two months of this shes definitly not having any problems.

Yes definiatly I had them on most of my finger joints, and I've been on ACV for a year and they have all gone but one, and that has definiatly reduced.

I read on this site for Ted's Remedies that Ted himself often uses plain vinegar instead of ACV because of the expense of ACV where he lives in Thailand.

I would not recommend regular distilled vinegar, as all of the beneficial nutrients are removed during the distillation process.

If you are allergic to apples, than you may try ACV using only a small teaspoon a day to start, and observe closely if you have any reactions, because it's quite possible you dont have any reactions because it is fermented and organic, of course if you use the brand from B---. (Just don't touch anything that has acetic acid in it with metal, it pulls the metal out, its best to use wood such as a wooden spoon to measure it out.)

Otherwise if you have a reaction or you don't want to take any risks, than the other place to get the beneficial vitamins, nutrients, acetic acid and bacterias are from Kombucha. Which I made kombucha in my house for many months, and it did wonders for my digestive system, but you can also buy it in health stores as well. Just make sure it's raw and organic.

Please tell me the exact measurements that you used for arthritis recipe. I trust ACV since it has been beneficial for me but now I also have arthritis on my knees and I think I am not taking the right dosage. Thank you.

I take 1 tablespoon in a glass of water with 1 tablespoon honey and a pinch of baking soda, either first thing in the morning, or after my tea and before eating. If I am in a hurry I just use the vinegar and water.