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Posted by Oppiesee (Cape Town, Sa) on 07/09/2011
5 out of 5 stars

I'd like to post a photo, taken of my hand about 9 days ago and a current one for you to see the major difference that has taken place already.

I was out of apple cider vinegar, but I had a really vinegary bottle of kombucha in the fridge (which I keep to seed new batches of kombucha) so I started with that. 2 tablespoons kombucha, 1 tablespoon honey, 1 teaspoon ginger, 1 teaspoon borax (after reading about the apples and borax on your site) but it was very sweet so I changed to 6 tablespoons kombucha. (now this is really yummy! ) I make it in the morning and drink it before mealtimes together with 3 capsules of odourless garlic. The last 3 days I am using 2 tablespoons apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon honey, 1 teaspoon ginger, 1 teaspoon borax, it is much more sour than the kombucha mixture so I dilute it with some kombucha and still take it 3 times a day with the 3 garlic capsules before mealtimes.

I also take biochemic tissue salt no 10 - Nat Phos - 2 tablets under the tongue - about 6 times a day.

An acid alkaline food table is pasted in the kitchen and I try to eat as many foods from the alkaline side as possible.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Hi can I suggest that you start taking MSM.. As well I'll post shortly with regards to my wife's battle with RA. It seems that after taking it for a few days it compilments all the other stuff and the various conditions improve exponentialy. Just about every modern food has had this essential ingredient removed, The science on the Calcium and potasium cycle is reasonably well known but the Sulphur cycle appears to be missed until recently. Unfortunately, modern man might in the future have to supplement this.

Replied by Oppiesee
(Cape Town, Sa)

Thanks for the information. I had to look up MSM first, I had no idea what it was. This weekend I will have a look what brands are available at the chemist.

I am wondering if the teaspoon borax a day is a bit much? I have headaches the last 3 days and also often feel nauseous. It is not conditions that I normally get.


The borax dosage, as posted multiple times on this site, is NO MORE THAN 1/8th - 1/4th of a teaspoon of borax in at least 1 liter of water a day, sipped throughout the day.


Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

CRIPES!!!!! Just lick your finger shove it into the Borax and swirl it around in an 8oz grlass of water.. Thats the rule of thumb amount. What your taking is heading for toxicity.

Replied by Oppiesee
(Cape Town, Sa)

Yes, I got that a bit wrong! I've read up on Boron/Borax sites now too and have adjusted the amount of borax to that what clings to a wet fingertip.

If the lumps on my fingers continue to recede at this rate I will be able able to report "CURED! " soon.

Right Hand can close properly already with all 4 fingers almost straight, bending properly and touching the palm. Can use it properly now, no pain when using it.

Left hand ring finger was always unafflicted, pinky still skew but almost no swelling of the joints and already touching the palm, this is the only finger where both joints were afflicted. Index finger still skew with fairly swollen joint and not close to touching palm, middle finger was worst, still skew, joint still huge but protruding hump almost gone, still not bending much but getting better daily.

Looking forward to adding the MSM to the brew.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Thank God you had us worried. I moved two ton of wood yesterday bending and lifting.. Six months ago I would have been laid up for a month. Ive no pain in the lower back area at all. Ginger tumeric and cayenne sorted it out really well but I still had to be carefull, but since adding the MSM its the third week since starting it.. And it feels like their never was a problem. It has done something on a very basic level. I'm 64 years old and getting more supple than I've been for a very long time.

Replied by Oppiesee
(Cape Town, Sa)

Sounds great Gavin! Keep up the good work! I wonder why it is so hard for people to try the natural cures instead of all the chemicals that they gladly swallow at huge costs?

My dad was a great "home doctor", he had a remedy for every ailment. He had a concoction for burns that worked so well. Wish I could get the recipe somewhere. It was yellowish and a bit oily. I know there was lime in it. It was either slaked lime or agricultural lime. (don't know if my translation to english is correct) When my mom wanted to make some more years after my dad passed on she was told that she can't buy/use it as it is toxic.

Replied by Sharon
(Portlaoise, Co.laois Ireland)

Gavin I was just wondering if you mixed the ginger, tumeric, and cayenne together? Or if you took it seperately?

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Hi sharon. I actualy cut the ginger into thin slices about a inch by half inch cube.. Chop some garlic like two to three cloves and give them a quick stir fry in a wok... Then push it over to one side and fry some organic bread untill its crispy.. Im using grapeseed oil... Then flip the bread out and put the garlic and ginger on top... Then the cayenne gets pressed into the corner of the bread, and a bit of tumeric on top of the cvayenne... I fry an egg and pop this on top. I eat the corner with the cayenne and tumeric first. The Oil takes most of the heat out.. And then just finish the rest off... Ive been doing this everyday now for months, about noon.. And for some reason have not got tired of it. By sweating the Garlic in the wok a bit, you can eat more as its not raw. It certainly settled the back issue. But it compliments eveything, its the ACV and Honey that initialy clear the sinuses.

Replied by Sonja
(Toronto, Ontario, Canada)

Hi, I'm a newcomer to Earth Clinic, and have a question for Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand. I've had osteoarthritis on my knees and lower back for some years, and recently seemed to have also developed rheumatoid arthritis in my knees and fingers. Could you please please post the details of the remedies that you use such that you are able to move two tons of wood without pain? Thanks so very much.


Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

I think it was about a week on cayenne, Turmeric and ginger, before I noticed that the lower back was pain free... But I take a swig of MSM. In the evenings and a dollop of honey and apple cider vinegar mornings and evenings. I started that for sinus headaches and they stopped immiediatly. I take 3mgs of boron and a kelp tablet everday. I tried a course of haluronic acid, like a month without problems then it seemed that old bone injuries were playing up, so I stopped it and in a couple of days they stopped playing up. I also have a couple of raw cloves of garlic, everday. And three capsules of fish oil. Plus a popular multi vitamin for over fifties. If all this sounds a bit much its just to cover all the bases. I dont ache any more and I have no lines or wrinkles. I'm going on 65 and feel better then I did at fifty. I'm sure the main problem was not getting essential elements.. The Mrs has slightly deformed joints wrist and foot. , but shes on basicly the same as me but hasnt had a flair up for a long time.

There's a type two collagen product they make in Canada it was reported in the prestigious science magazine Nature, that is made from chicken breast cartilidge.. It seems the nearest thing for a cure to the condition, as the trials were very positive, any review in "Nature" is subject to rigourous assesment.. In a double blind all on the chicken supplement were virtually cured.. All on the placebo showed no change.. I've ordered some from the manufacturers for the mrs.. Its called NU JOINT (sorry ec) if anyones interested.. Its either that or process your own chicken breasts.. I hope this helps.

Replied by Estelle
(Cape Town, South Africa)

Hi... A question for Gavin. I have tried to read exactly the amounts and what all must be used for pain in hands, arms, back and feet... Will it be possible to please send me a list of exactly what you use and also quantities, so I can get rid of the pain... Thanx!

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

I haven't got arthritis. The Mrs had it quite badly, but apparently its now in remission and it dosn't bother her. She takes root ginger tea, with a couple of capfulls of ACV. And a teaspoon of honey every evening. The amount of ginger is about a cubic inch diced up and put in a cup, then pore some boiling water to half fill the cup and leave it to steep for a couple of hours. When you want to drink, (save the ginger by straining the juice, and pour boiling water on it and let it steep in another cup, there still plenty of ginger oils left for another round and will be ok for another cupfull). Top the first cup up with boiling water and add the honey and vinegar. It takes a few days to feel the benifit as the ginger is acumulative. But the science says its as good as Iboprophin for pain, with no side effects. She also takes a 500mg vitamin c.

When I had a bad back the ginger cleared it up in a week, I dont know if it was arthuritis. For the past three months I've been juicing beet apple and carrots, and putting a capful of ACV with a squeeze of lemon in before drinking the concoction. This seems to be maintaining my health really well and after some exercise, like a brisk walk there is definiatly less fatigue involved than before. More than a glassful and the urine goes red, I was taking a glass morning and evening, but it seems quite potent so dropped it to a morning one.

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Posted by Paul (Glasgow, Scotland) on 05/05/2011
5 out of 5 stars

My wife has recently started taking ACV and honey, 3 times a day, 1 tablespoon vinegar and little honey to sweeten, taken in 8oz of water. She feels helping arthritis however she is now experiencing heartburn. Any suggestions or help please?

Replied by Barbara
(Manama, Bahrain)


Try diluting the ACV in more water, I too have RA and found that it gave me heartburn too, so I put the 3 tablespoons of ACV in 500ml water (I use a water bottle for the gym) and add it to the 6 or so glasses of water that I drink throughout the day. Hope this helps.

Replied by Noel
(Palm Springs, Ca, Usa)

Try ACV with Baking soda.... 2TBS apple cider vinegar with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with 6 oz of water. This will help remove the acidity of the vinegar with the same effective cure of the apple cider vinegar.

Replied by Nickie
(London Uk)

Paul posted a while ago but no one pointed out that the US tablespoon is the equivalent of the British dessertspoon which is probably the cause of the wife's heartburn. Two caps full in 8 ounces of water is good - or to taste. If honey is used it should be dissolved in warm water only as hot will destroy the beneficial enzymes.

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Posted by Margaret (Knoxville, Tn, Usa) on 05/05/2011
5 out of 5 stars

I have RA. After briefly trying out some of the BigPharma offerings, I started taking ACV with honey. I take 2 tablespoons of ACV with 2 teaspoons of good local honey and a bit of hot water every morning on an empty stomach. Sometimes I do an additional dose in the evening. While I still have some swelling in the joints hardest hit by the RA, I have no pain. None at all. As a wonderful side effect, I also stay remarkably healthy while those around me suffer from colds, flu, etc.

Another good remedy for inflammation in the body is Turmeric. Since I do not care for the taste, I buy empty gelatin capsules from my local healthfood store and fill them myself. Be sure to wear gloves if you try this because the Turmeric will stain anything it touches yellow. I take about 2 teaspoons of Turmeric a day this way.

As far as weight loss - I'm perimenopausal at this time in my life and am fighting that belly bulge myself. Acai berry and Pilates seem to work the best for me. I take 1 teaspoon of Acai (powder that I put in capsules) each day and make myself hit the floor for Pilates several times a week.

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 04/28/2011
5 out of 5 stars

I has Heberden's nodes at my finger joints and I've been on ACV for a year and they have all gone but one, and that has definitely reduced.

I pour a capful of Apple Cider Vinegar into a glass and put about three times that amount of water with it.. Then take a spoonfull of honey and keep it in the side of my mouth whilst sipping the Apple Cider Vinegar I let the honey go down with each sip.. I think the Apple Cider Vinegar and honey must go down together to get the full benifit, as the vinegar cracks the honey in the stomach.. I'm taking it morning and evening for the last eighteen months. I have one last nodule left on my right hand second finger but that might have been joint damage due to an accident and not a nodule. They were on most of my finger joints to some degree.

I must say that after trying the stuff out at earthclinic my health has never been better.. Just about all the agues of age have cleared up. After not seeing my daughter for about four months when I started on the Apple Cider Vinegar she said "My god you look like you have lost twenty years".. I must admit I feel it as well.. Im on other stuff as well.. I smoke and drink moderately.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Just a bit more on the apple cider vinegar, for arthitis. Ive found out that apparently apple trees are sprayed with Boron.. If they arn't the fruit has depressed brown spots that are the signs of the Boron deficiency.. By observing the amount of YEAS for apple cider vinegar. Then reading about the boron and arthritis thread I put two and two together. My wife dosnt like the taste of ACV. And she has Osteo arthritis... I've just taken the liberty of getting her six weeks supply of 3mg boron capsules, the fact she is post menopausal and its supposed to be the natural equivelent to HRT. As well! .. I'll stay posting on this in a few weeks to see what happens.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

Just an addenum.. If the diet is low on Boron, its most likely low in all the other essential elements as well. So shes taking C..... N multivitamins as well. Plus glucosamine and Chondritin. Oh and three salmon oil capsules a day. The information ive read suggest that if your under sixty it takes a month to show improvement and if over a couple of months.

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)

This is an update on my wife's Arthritis.. Due to all the natural cures and ideas posted. With her aquiesence I decided to "shotgun" the condition provided the "naturals" were not harmful. She is off the Prednisone with no problems. Her rhumatoid factor results are normal.. But the Rhumitologist wanted her to stay on a low dose of Methotrexate 10mg a week because he was worried it might flare up. I have the suspicion that the drug might not be standing much of a chance with regards to the amount of antioxidents in the shotgun mix. Health wise she's really good, and the condition she's had for at least twenty years isnt impacting her life at all.

Here is a list of what she's taking.. I subsituted the prednisone with a cup of ginger root tea, with a teaspoon of honey, and a cap of ACV. in it before bed.... 1000mg of vitamin C.. 3mg of Boron.. One Centrum over fifties vitamin and mineral pill.... 2 capsules of 450mg Devils claw... Selenium with ACand E... 1 zinc B6 and Magnesium... 3 high potency fish oil caspsules.... And MSM.... I had to drop the Glucosamine and Chondritin.. due to the headaches, caused by the mix of MSM and Chondritin. (thanks to whoever posted that information). These went when it was dropped.. But definitaly maintained the MSM.. I didnt want to just use Boron as copper and all the rest of the minerals are all notes in the music.. (So to speak). Theirs also a teaspoonful of virgin Coconut oil everyday. Her skin is lookin, really good and any post menopausal symptoms are non existent. In fact after two months of this shes definitly not having any problems.

Replied by Synthman
(Johnstown, Pa.)

Gavin, New to this site.

Hey, do you have any pictures -before and after?? If you do it would be great to encourage others to try this. You would just have to show your hands-that's all. Ah...have you read whether or not soaking your hands in this mix-for xx minutes per day would help also??

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Posted by Helen (New York) on 04/24/2011
5 out of 5 stars

I have had good luck with vinegar, honey and warm water. I didn't think it worked but when I didn't take it for a few days I was in a lot of pain. Back to my drink! Also, I had cortisone shot which didn't help.

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Posted by Lisa (Eastland, Texas, Usa) on 01/28/2011

I have Heberden's nodes at my finger joints and would like to know if anyone has had good results treating this condition with ACV. Please feel free to contact me. Thanks very much!

Replied by Gavin
(Manganui, New Zealand)
5 out of 5 stars

Yes definiatly I had them on most of my finger joints, and I've been on ACV for a year and they have all gone but one, and that has definiatly reduced.

Replied by Sarah
(Cornwall, Uk)

Thanks for your great, informative post..I'd like to avoid honey/sugars..d'you think the ACV would work as well on it's own for Heberden's nodes?

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Posted by Ann (Bellingham, Wa) on 06/24/2010

I just started using acv for arthritis in my thumb. My husband has always mixed his acv in maple syrup and suggested I do the same. It's very good. I mix 2 tablespoons acv, 1 tablespoon maple syrup in about 10-12 oz. water. It's just enough sweet to take the edge off plus maple syrup has beneficial nutrients.

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Posted by Joyce (Asheville, North Carolina) on 04/04/2010

I've been reading all the posts about ACV. It sounds great and I would like to try it for arthritis. The only problem is that I am allergic to apples so I cannot have ACV. Does anyone know if other types of vinegar work? Or since the active ingredient is acetic acid do they sell acetic acid supplements and would they work???

Replied by Patti
(Coconut Creek, Fl)

I read on this site for Ted's Remedies that Ted himself often uses plain vinegar instead of ACV because of the expense of ACV where he lives in Thailand.

Replied by San Diego Web Design
(San Diego, Ca)
5 out of 5 stars

I would not recommend regular distilled vinegar, as all of the beneficial nutrients are removed during the distillation process.

If you are allergic to apples, than you may try ACV using only a small teaspoon a day to start, and observe closely if you have any reactions, because it's quite possible you dont have any reactions because it is fermented and organic, of course if you use the brand from B---. (Just don't touch anything that has acetic acid in it with metal, it pulls the metal out, its best to use wood such as a wooden spoon to measure it out.)

Otherwise if you have a reaction or you don't want to take any risks, than the other place to get the beneficial vitamins, nutrients, acetic acid and bacterias are from Kombucha. Which I made kombucha in my house for many months, and it did wonders for my digestive system, but you can also buy it in health stores as well. Just make sure it's raw and organic.

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Posted by Larry C (Bartlett, Il, Usa) on 02/03/2010
5 out of 5 stars

Been into holistic health for a few years now and stumbled upon Earth Clinic a few months ago when my 11 YO daughter had a bout with strep and mono. After a bad reaction to her antibiotic with a terrible rash and prescribed an even more terrible antibiotic, I pulled the plug on conventional medical "wisdom" and treated her with organic coconut oil for the mono and ACV for the rash as well as ACV and cayenne for the strep. Her sore throat was gone almost instantly with the gargle although the rash itself took longer she did get some relief. The mono disappeared in two days and she was back to being herself... Amazing!

I broke my left elbow about 22 years ago in a motorcycle accident and the Dr. then told me it would give me trouble later in life. He was completely correct as over the past 1-1/2 years it has gone from a noticeable throb to outright excruciating PAIN! Some mornings I couldn't even extend it fully and certainly not do anything physically stressful. After reading about ACV and arthritis I began using it as directed with about two tablespoons in water, sipping it throughout the day. Within 10 minutes of the first sips the pain subsided. I'm now into the fourth day and I'm a new man. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

BTW Gave it to my 19YO daughter for a headache and it was gone in minutes...

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Posted by Peter (Manila, Philippines) on 02/02/2010

I am presently reading the book "Arthritis And Folk Medicine " written by D.C. Jarvis. M.D.. It refers to his researches into the effect of acv on health. It was written in the period pre WW2 and relates to the folk medicine practices in Vermont. Acv drinks as a health tonic were very popular, known as switchel amongst the older Vermonters and was used to keep arthritis at bay. His observation laboratory was the farm and in particular dairy herds.

To explain how it works in arthritis, he uses the analogy of the tea kettle with the calcium build up, which when boiled with acv solution, the calcium deposit is dissolved. So it is this ability to precipitate "dead" calcium which is his explanation as to how it works with arthritis.

What caught my attention was the case of the acv fed calf which was dehorned at ten months of age and was found to have full calcium horns whereas others unfed with acv were hollow. That seems to show that it helps the fuller utilisation of calcium. Another example is the calves supplemented with acv being bigger boned and bodied than the unsupplemented ones.

Another example was that the butcher paid a higher price for dairy cows that were "vinigered" because the meat was more tender than that of others. This is interesting because it shows a good circulation throughout the animal not only indicating no arthritis but also no rheumatism - the hardening of the muscle tissues. He also says that the vinegar diet did away with mastitis and increased milk yields, the increase in milk yields being proof of better calcium metabolism by the animal. ACV also stopped spontaneous abortion and helped in calving.

So how does acv work in eliminating arthritis? Dr Jarvis's answer would be that it assists calcium metabolism and rids the body of badly utilised calcium which causes calcium buildups which is the cause of arthritic pain, and when the excess calcium goes, so does the pain.

Acv also helps the digestive process, as not only did the cows produce more milk, they also ate less feed were free of mastitis and healthier.

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Posted by Nickieb (Ruislip, Middlesex Uk) on 01/28/2010
5 out of 5 stars

I started using Apple Cider Vinegar with mother two weeks ago for arthritis. Four times a day I take 1/3 mug apple juice, 2/3 hot water with 1 tabsp vinegar. Tastes very acceptable rather like lemonade. You could make with cold water but it's winter here and this is comforting. In the last few days I've also tried adding a teaspoon of Blackstrap Molasses. Put that in mug first and then 2/3 fill with hot water to dissolve before adding apllejuice and vinegar. It's really nice and more importantly it has helped the arthritis no end. Scarcely any hip or knee pain after the first couple of days; still have some stiffness but haven't really started exercising yet so that could be the reason and solution.

Also I have dabbed ACV neat on skin irritation which stopped after a few minutes. This occurs from time to time and I can't figure what causes it except maybe chlorinated water.

I've noticed quite a few people on this site snivelling about the taste of ACV. Maybe they're not hurting enough but they should find a recipe that works for them. Take less at a time and do more often, whatever, because it's brilliant. Can't remember how I found this site but I'm so glad I did and thank you all so much. Nickie

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Posted by Shaun (York, England) on 01/17/2010
5 out of 5 stars

Hi All, Yes I use Ted's remedies nearly daily. Basically I use the CarBiCarb with ACV as well as a heaped tblsp of cornflour (and half a lemon/lime) as an energy drink at the gym, or for playing golf or rugby - or whatever. I sometimes use ACV straight as a tummy 'settler' also when I've pigged too much. Further, I just can't say enough good things about borax. It's best just to forget ANY past negative ideas about borax (chemically its nothing but a freshwater salt), but its the business!!! Do some research. If nothing else just here on EC. Life without borax was sometimes something of a struggle. Now I can do 36 holes of golf straight and dance the night away (Ceroc/Jiving) - and get up and do the same thing the next day.

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Posted by Sparrowhawk (Milwaukee, Wis) on 12/31/2009
1 out of 5 stars

Tried the Apple Cider Vinegar for a day and it didn't work........

I think I will try it w/ water and honey instead of straight!

But for those stuck taking Nsaids (gave me an ulcer!), I thought I would add .....
FeverFew extract
White Willow Bark Extract
Rhodiola Rosea Extract
Niacinamide (500mg 3-4x daily)
**** Take w/Milk Thistle extract to protect liver
Valerian Root

All took away the need for Nsaids.

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Posted by Steve (Mesa, Az) on 12/29/2009
1 out of 5 stars

Reading all the testimonies of ACV I was hopeful, however, after 3 weeks I find that my lower back pain (diagnosed as spinal arthritis) has not changed. Have been faithful taking 1 tbls with honey and water 3 times a day. Since no one is making money pushing organic ACV, I thought it was worth a try but I am about to give up. Steve

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Posted by Blanche (New Iberia, La) on 10/06/2009
5 out of 5 stars

ACV for arthritis and nail fungus, and heartburn

I have been using organic apple cider vinegar daily for about 8 months now, internally and for nail fungus. It has been a godsend for my arthritis. I no long take pain killers for the pain and swelling in my hands and knees. Ted's recipe for toenail fungus has worked also, though it took a several months, my toenail is now just about normal.

For heartburn/GERD I had no choice but to go back to taking Prilosec every other day. The ACV did nothing for it at all.

EC: Cross-posting your feedback to the Acid Reflux/Gerd page with a NAY rating - thank you!

Replied by Alida
(Sacramento, California)

Please tell me the exact measurements that you used for arthritis recipe. I trust ACV since it has been beneficial for me but now I also have arthritis on my knees and I think I am not taking the right dosage. Thank you.

Replied by Blanche
(New Iberia, Louisiana)

I take 1 tablespoon in a glass of water with 1 tablespoon honey and a pinch of baking soda, either first thing in the morning, or after my tea and before eating. If I am in a hurry I just use the vinegar and water.

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