Have heard that pineapple/juice cures 26% arthritis. It works and have even saw this in animals such as bears that were arthritic being helped. Make sure pure & no sugar added.
Hello! My dad called me the other day to ask me to check online for poke berries to help him with severe arthritus pain he's been suffering with even with medication. I had never heard of such a thing being taken for that. And, like most everyone else, we had always been taught that they were poisonus! So, I started digging and came across this page. In my search I noticed that, even though it is available in the wild, no one mentioned where it might be purchased. Since we are not currently in a growing season, where might one PURCHASE poke berries to take till he can harvest his own? Alos, are there any pointers on harvesting?
Thank you so much for offering this thread and opportunity to reply!
(Waco, Tx Usa)
To Kathryn in Tulsa-- you are absolutely right about it being the wrong time for Poke Berries. There will probably not be any in the wild until mid to late summer. My late husband knew what Poke Salad (as he called it) was. I was a bit reluctant to eat something growing in the wild, especially if you had to boil it 3 times to get it tamed down enough to eat. I like my boiled Poke Salad best scrambled with eggs! It tastes much like strong spinach.
His father was born in the Oklahoma Territory and that is who he learned about Poke Salad from.
We lived in the country near Baton Rouge, LA when my husband spotted some growing wild behind the house. I live in Waco, TX now and there was some growing on a vacant lot down the street from me last summer so it grows quite prolifically in the central US for sure. Perhaps you can find some seeds online and plant them for plants and berries this summer.
If the powers that be have their way we will have laws passed banning all except very weak prescription vitamins (Codex Ailamentarium). We are going to have to learn how to survive with what we know about medicines from Mother Nature. People survived before synthetic drugs came on the scene, we may have to go back to natural cures.
I found this reference online"This plant contains chemicals called the "pokeweed mitogens" that are being studied for use in treatments of autoimmune diseases including AIDS and rheumatoid arthritis". Another site mentions using the pokeberry dye in their solar power units. Another site mentions making pokeberry wine for arthritis. I did not find any mention of seeds for sale but the best site I did find is by a herbalist and has a lot of comments from other people that use the berries for gout, children's medicine made as a tincture for a cold, assorted other things. That site was www.wisewomantradition.com/about.html. Google said there was over 50, 000 references to poke berries so you may find seeds online with some reading. Good luck in your quest.
About 5 years ago I tripped and almost fell. I was afraid if I had I would break a hip. However in not falling and catching myself I tore my ACLs. When I finally went to the Orthopedic guy he basically told me I needed a knee replacement and that I had a very arthritic knee. He seemed to delight in showing me how they would just slice those joints off and bolt on some aparatus. I declined at that point and in a later appointment they injected some Chicken comb material supposed to help the bones glide better with a large needle that looked sort of like a turkey baster. Needless to say it was quite an experience and I have done everything I could to stay out of his office. ACV seemed to help some, but I realized I was getting less and less active because I was in pain. About a year ago, I went to a Chiropractor and she told me about Prolotherapy and how it could help me. It's a treatment where they inject sugar water in your ligaments, causing inflammation which make them stronger when they heal. Due to having flashbacks of the turkey baster, I just let time pass. Finally about a month ago I realized I had to do something and sugar water was a hell of a lot less invasive than having my knee joint cut out. So, several days ago I went in for my first Prolotherapy session. She did an ultrasound of my knee and there were large bone spurs in the area of the most pain. She numbed the area and injected the sugar water and compared to the turkey baster - it was a walk in the park! But the greatest thing is - it's 3 days later and it's at least 75% better if not more! I went grocery shopping yesterday without any pain! I'm climbing the stairs in my house with no problem! Of course, insurance won't pay for it. So I'm out $285. But I don't care! I figure I'll probably have to have another session, but I am so stoked about this I had to share! The pictures on the internet (Youtube) are a little scary and I think that was why I was so reticent. It's just such a relief to think about doing things and realizing you can because you're not hurting anymore.
Another very simple cure for arthritis is glucosime and chondroitin. And the simplest way to get it? Raw Milk. I suffered from advanced arthritis for years until my chiropractor told me glucosime and condroitin was the simplest way to defeat it. And one of the simplest ways to obtain that is raw milk. As there were several people milking near me, I was able to get the raw milk easily and far cheaper than regular milk in the store. For nine years I had no problem until both milkers shut their operation down. My pain came back with a vengeance as if someone were cutting thru my arm socket with a knife. Sleeping was impossible. I finally found another person with raw milk and after 3-4 weeks the pain went completely away once again.
When they pastuerize milk they take away all the good vitamins. Raw milk has those in it. As long as you find, preferably a small independant milker, one that's clean, as they almost all are, you will have no problem. There are no side effects from milk unless you are lactose intolerant, other than good ones. It's a simple, cheap, and very easily absorbed into your bloodstream. You won't be disappointed.
I have found that high strength rose hip worked really well on arthritis in my hands and of course regular exercises to keep the joins moving.
HAVE TRIED SALT WATER FOR 4 AND A HALF MONTHS DRANK 2 QUARTS OF WATER A DAY AND USED REDMOND SEA SALT CANT TELL ANY DIFFERENCE IN MY ARTHRITIS OR ANY THING ELSE FEEL THE SAME BEFORE I STARTED CAN'T SEE IT HAS ANY BENEFITS WILL JUST STICK TO WATER.
(San Francisco, Ca, Usa)
Hi Jeff, There are lots of different kinds of salt, and you do not mention the amount of it that you took. I'm sorry the Redmond didn't help you, but this is what happened to me:
I have used 1 pinch of (Celtic) sea salt in every glass of water for years now. I cook with Celtic Salt or Celtic Salt sole. I also use Himalayan Pink in my household shaker, since the Celtic is too moist to shake and guests don't seem to know what to do with it. I do not use Sodium Chloride table salt unless I am stuck in a restaurant without my own shaker (which I usually carry).
1 slightly-heaped teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt in ~10 oz of distilled water stopped my back pain and greatly reduced other muscle pain within 20 minutes or so. It didn't work until I took enough of it all at once, IOW all those pinches in all those glasses for all those years did not do it, but the onetime teaspoon did. Ted from Bangkok is right, if it's the right salt, you'll know it within 1/2 hour.
I have also discovered that if I overdo the salt (I can feel it if I do), the fastest fix for this is to drink enough plain distilled water to dissolve the ingested salt and run it out. Another thing that helps to recover quicker from a seasalt OD is to take a long, hot shower.
So IMO it depends upon your requirements and the chemical composition of the particular salt you are using. One of these days I will check out the local seasalt that is produced here where I live. I haven't tried that yet.
I hope this helps.
For arthritis, read up on serrapeptase please and the testamonials on any site you find... it sometimes (not usually) takes weeks even months for some but others have improved DRAMATICALLY within days :)
Hope this helps- it's an amazing product from all I've read.
Silver Bio Tec
I take 1 teas. of Silver Bio tec 2 times a day. for my arthritis. Started it three weeks ago, and I no longer take my prescription meds. You can find it in any health food store. I noticed an improvement in less than four days. Its great. Plus, you can use it for many other uses. Has no taste,so easy to take.
Spirits of Turpentine
Recently I had a severe case of Arthritis that affected my left thumb. The thumb would lock down and I had to unlock it by force. The pain was also quite severe. I began using Spirits of Turpentine to relieve some of the soreness and used it for a month. The arthritis and the pain gradually went away and has not returned. At all. Anyone Else ever Tried Turpentine for this disease?
I have tried many remedies. MSM is great for joint pain. CGF a concentrated form of chlorella will cure almost anything from a lowered immune system including cancer. fish oil has helped with depression. Fiber, ACV, probiotics they are all wonderful. I had AS a rare form of arthritis and experimenting with supplements has sent it into remission for years.
I have bone spurs and arthritis. A friend learned of my condition and advised these supplements: 250mg. Magnesium Oxide, (promotes bone and muscle health) and Super B complex, 250 mg. (promotes energy and metabolism). USE AS DIRECTED ON BOTTLE. Along with these supplements, I mix 1-64oz. bottle of pure 100% apple juice, and 1-64 oz. bottle of 100% grape juice, and 1-cup apple cider vinegar. Mix all liquids together and store in refrigerator. Drink 1/3 cup of mixture 3x a day. It has worked for me! Thanks and may you all be blessed with wonderful health! And remember, WE ARE WHAT WE EAT!
Tincture of teasel for any kind of arthritis including rheumatoid arthritis.
I cannot take credit but want to spread the cure. I read an article of a Norwegian lady who did her homework of people in the states that cured themselves of Lymes disease, herpes and tons of other diseases that are caused by some bug(s) biting you as a child or adult and per medical medium as the decades go by, you get more and more health problems due to the viruses (www.flaatthjelp.net. Go to the box to the left in English and hit the Lymes story of her cure). ANY bug/insect that carries a virus and it bites you, you get the virus. Per medical medium Epstein-barr, herpes, Lymes, etc. are of the same family. Lymes is not a bacteria, it is a VIRUS, it is I believe Stage 4, you start getting arthritis (it is not an old person's disease, it is due to the darn virus setting up shop in your body and destroying you, Stage 6 is Alzheimer's type memory problems). Western medicine got it wrong on the Lymes virus!!!!! Before the arthritis, depending which herpes virus bit you, there are 60 of them) there are six stages of the virus breaking down your body as the decades go by. Medical Medium, Anthony William, has the 3rd eye open (as we all can, you have to exercise the pineal gland so get educated on how to do that, probably the best gift you can give yourself!!!! ) he wants us to drink 16 oz of fresh celery juice we make every day for 4 years, plus starve the virus out of your body, cannot eat any kind of meat, no eggs (viruses favorite food), no wheat, no grains, nor dairy, nor sugar and you must eat anti-viral foods like raw wildflower honey, white and sweet potato, lemon or any kind of citrus, onion, garlic, wild blueberries, supplements - lysine, lemon balm, cat's claw, etc. I choked down the celery juice but by winter, the celery was soooo bitter I just could not stand it (celery juice has salt minerals that we do not know of yet) but did not give up trying to kill the herpes 1 and Lymes I have .Then I read the Norwegian lady's story.
Buy Tincture of TEASEL from a reputable seller three 4 oz bottles (if it is with alcohol, the contents will last forever) work up to 9 drops every day (do not rush the drops, one drop 1st day, 2 drops 2nd day, 3 drops 3rd day til you get to 9 drops, when you get to 9 drops, mark the date so you take it for one year, it is nasty as well, put a drop or two of food grade peppermint drops in it!!! ). If you rush the drops, you can get the herx effect where you feel way worse than before you started the drops. These viruses cause thousands of diseases, migraines, headaches, bladder issues, eye problems, high blood pressure, gout, Epstein Barr, fibromyalgia, MS, fire of the mouth disease, nerve issues, liver problems, diabetes, arthritis of any kind, thyroid issues, cancer, sooooo many, many health problems. Since we play outside as kids, 99% have been bitten by something so we all should do this remedy and if you are young or live in bug infested areas, do this every 5-10 years. Google medicalmedium.com anti-viral foods and start chowing on those so everyone can get healthy again, the idea is to starve the virus out of us!!! (My hubby and I are on our 3rd week now.)
Please do this remedy and SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERYONE (parents, grandparents, friends) YOU KNOW so they can get well with us!!! For those of us that have a virus or two in us, the covid vaccine made us way worse in pain, it reactivates the virus!! Take enough Vitamin D and do 1/2 lemon every day and it will keep most things away ( I buy quite a few lemons at Costco, juice them, put them in ice trays in the freezer and pop two of them in my drinks every day…do not heat the lemon, it kills the immunity)
Ted's Cat Purring Remedy
I would like to know more about Ted's cat purring remedy for arthritis. Where can you find the recording? How long did your mother listen to it for? How did you discover this remedy, and why do you think it affects pain?
EC: The link was on the stiff neck remedies page! Here is the recording you can download: https://www.earthclinic.com/CatPurrFastHealing.wav
Re: Turmeric and Arthritis/Joint Pain
I am 84 years old. Am I the only one that goes into a detox mode with turmeric? I had an experience with msm doing the same thing to me. Msm was like magic where the pain is concerned. no longer needed to take prescription pain pills. I was really a happy camper. Could literally break into a sprint while it was working so well. Then started to feel like I had the flu. layed in bed trying not to even blink my eyes.Years ago I took pycnoginol and was warned that it could cause detox like symptoms so I was ready for it. Not terrible...got over it quickly.. But the msm was awful .
Started on the turmeric instead. Now here I go again - pain in the joints worse... everything hurts.. so I stopped this one too...Is it just my age that makes me so vulnerable? I never read anything about detox being a side effect, or how to handle it if it happened... But I went to the computer and typed in.... turmeric and detoxing.... and there it was... lots of info on it.... I hate the real pain pills... The government is eventually going to stop them all anyway... I would much rather go the natural way..If anyone has a solution on how to avoid the detox or how to control it to some degree? I would love to know it.. I am still raising kids and need to keep the physical side of me together. Any knowledge or ideas will be greatly appreciated.Thanks all,
Elinor, granma in Texas.
Elinor, I also had some issues with both. The msm I got off wheat gluten and then no problem. The turmeric it was the other ingredients. The most troubling ingredient [I was sick for nearly 2 months] it contained titanium dioxide. I have found many added ingredients to be troublesome. From what I have been reading the titanium dioxide is used in nano form, which means it penetrates more than it should and reactions are severe for some. Janet
Elinor, you are very inspiring!
Maybe you can try taking a LOT less at a time.
Elinor, regarding your experience with MSM, it is quite possible your pain was/is due to going off the prescription drugs. I'm assuming they were narcotics ...and people do become 'hooked' on these 'pain pills'.
E: Here are two remedies that will help detox bones & joints:
Just two teaspoons of Turmeric per day stopped all my arthritis pain, and allowed the best sleep in years.
I am very interesting in taking turmeric powder in higher doses for my arthritis but I am allergic to black pepper. Is it beneficial to take turmeric only with coconut oil besides cooking with it. Thank you. Margaret
We have found turmeric to work quite well even without the black pepper. I think purists think the black pepper isn't necessary!
~Mama to Many~
(Ten Mile, Tn)
MAMA,,,,,,,,,, I have no clue, but all my reading says that Cayenne is the KING. This spice will make all others work more better. Think it is because it causes the blood to thin and gets to places spices normally would not otherwise go. That is the reason I take it when I go into A FIB. My Dad had an A FIB and it killed him instantly when the clot formed and hit his brain. His problem was in yesteryear. Ole Doc Ranier would come to the house and take a handkerchief and pull on his tongue. If that did not help, then he pushed on his eyeballs until he could not stand it. Then he would have him stand up and hit him right in his heart. That usually worked. Times have changed a little, but I can almost promise you that most doctors cannot get you out of A FIB. They tell you to go to the emergency room after 24 years of schooling. Welcome to American medical education.
I do not do rat poison, but do Nattokinase because it does the same thing, but does not create a whole new wing at some pharmaceutical plant. You really help people with your down home counsel and I commend you.
There are getting to be fewer and fewer of folks on EC that have been half way around the watermelon. We do have some bright ones coming on like ART. I was so delighted to see Joyce of Joelton, Tn posting recently after several years of absence. She has sent us all to school over the years. Sorry to veer off subject, but you know I's a story teller.
I wish you well. =====ORH=======
Dear Robert Henry,
Well, your story about how a family doctor got your father out of a fib is fascinating! My great-grandfather was a doctor in rural NC around 1900 or so. He did house calls. He charged $5 to deliver a baby. Or sometimes he would be paid for his services with a bushel of apples or wheat. Times have surely changed. I never knew him but have seen his accounting books. Amazing.
Regarding cayenne...I love it myself. It has helped my family with strep throat, hemorrhage, poor circulation....among other things....I know it is used as a catalyst and maybe it would do that for turmeric for someone who cannot take black pepper. Apparently, black pepper is used to potentate turmeric because of the piperine in it, which cayenne does not have.
I would love to come up with an experiment to see the difference in how turmeric versus tumeric/black pepper versus turmeric/cayenne affect healing. Maybe some day!
~Mama to Many~
I heard a story over the weekend about turmeric and black pepper so I thought I would update this thread.
My friend said that she took turmeric with noticeable results. But when she took turmeric and black pepper it made her feel inflamed.
Obviously turmeric does not need black pepper to work and black pepper isn't for everyone.
A fascinating thing to me about natural treatment is how individual it can be. It is as much an art as a science.
~Mama to Many~
Yes Pj, I know you posted this couple y ago. But how did you take the 2 tsp. of Turmeric? I have had golden milk before but it has half that amt and also has black pepper in it and as I don't like pepper looking for a new method of taking it. TkY
My new favorite way of taking turmeric is in a liquid supplement I found at Costco. Qunol. I have seen it on Amazon, too. It does have the black pepper in it, but you can't taste it. Not sure how they got turmeric so palatable, but I got my 11 year old to take some today without batting an eye.
I had been taking turmeric capsules, but I have found this liquid turmeric to be more effective for joint pain.
~Mama to Many~