Better But With Side Effects
I love MSM for my back pain but it caused insomnia so bad I had to quit it for a while. I can only take 1 in the morning.
Hi anyone with hip arthritis, I started using MSM 3yrs ago it helped with the pain but then I read that to get a significant relief if you take a higher dose, you need to take more than the stated dose on the package.
I was taking tabs 2gms a day. Now, very gradually, I take 9gms. Hey what a difference, wonderful, but I have rose hip tab as well,
I take 4 MSM with breakfast, 4 for lunch and 2 early pm with a snack.
My arthritis was caused by a very bad fall from a horse straight onto the back of my hips when I crunched into the road 18 years ago. I would hate to be without MSM. But go easy at first, just a low dose, also I take glusamine. I don't have any side effects at all and would consider taking more dosage if needed.
I have had Psoriatic Arthritis since I was 10 years old, & one of the worst symptoms I've had for 38 yrs now, is daily shooting nerve pains in my extremities. The good news: when I take 1000 mgs of MSM daily, the shooting pains are completely gone. If I miss a few days, they always start up again. Love this site.
I have started to have arthritis in my hands. I had a shoulder pain awhile back and they did an ultra-sound/xrays if I remember right. Anyway, whatever they did I remember the doctor saying I had "some" arthritis starting. So I now am looking to EC to help with my hands. I now use ACV, lemon, ginger powder, Salt-water irrigation, on a daily basic for allergies mostly. But I also will take a swig of ACV for stomach upset after eating too much, or something that isn't nutritious. I have taken 800 mg of ibuprofen the last, two nights as the pain in my left hand was keeping me awake. I also put on icy/hot type junk I bought otc which I think helped a bit too. I refuse to live on ibuprofen the rest of my life (I'm 67) so I am looking for input on what you do for your arthritic pain specifically. There's so many things listed, and I have cayenne, ginger, and turmeric to make a little roll-on for pain. I hope that works instead of the ibuprofen. I already do the ACV 2 times a day. I guess really, all I want to do is talk to others that have this particular ailment, so I am posting here. Any feedback is welcome, but I do want to talk with folks that are using something that works for them. I read almost every day and know of tons of things to try, and mostly I find the "reads" here on EC. Thank you all in advance. I forgot to mention that I exercise regularly, but I am afraid to do weights now. I don't think I over-did them and mostly I just walk. I want to ride my bike but worry about using my hands for gripping. Which reminds me, I drop things often, and the strength is deteriorating. I love to dance, haven't for years now, but fearful now of ever dancing with a man because he might hurt my hands. If age is just a number, I feel I am 90 today ;(
Apple cider vinegar helps me some since I'm still active in working with a friend building a boat. I run the sanders and my arms and shoulders get tired and stiff. I'm 66, male, and still going. I also use extra virgin olive oil and it really helps more then the Apple Cider Vinegar in my opinion. One teaspoon in evening. I also take blackstrap molasses to in the evening. For those days when I've really overdone it, I take a 800 mg Ibuprofen prescription and that stops all aches and pains. I don't take the aspirin much, just when I've done myself in thinking I'm 21 again, lol. good luck.
First I'd like to thank everyone for their input. This site is a life saver.
So, I came down with terrible pain in my wrist, fingers, right hip, knee, foot and lower back. It became so unbearable at times that I could not walk or get out of the chair, and I thought that this is no life. If I had to live like this forever I'd rather be dead. However, I prayed and found the answers. Since I don't have insurance anymore - which is a blessing not a curse - I had to self diagnose and realized that I have Osteo Arthritis.
I spent many hours in researching on the internet and found that there are several things I could do to not only stop the pain but also to reverse bone cartilage decay. And this is for all forms of Arthritis. To stop the pain: 3, 4, or 5 thin slices of Organic Ginger, 8-10 oz. of hot good water, 2 teaspoons of each Organic Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey. Place the Ginger in a cup and pour the boiling water over it. Put a lid (Not plastic) or a small plate over it to cover. Let it soak for 10-15 minutes. Then add the ACV and Honey and drink this 3 times a day. It controls the pain to the point where I forget it is there. But for the long run do also exercise and eat undenatured Type II chicken cartilage and Gelatine. (I'll get to this later). Another important thing is to get all your trace minerals back into your body.
Exercise as often as you can. Every 2 minutes count. It does not have to be exhausting and you don't have to buy anything. Get something that has weight (a can of vetable, a plastic bag with sugar, or buy exercise weights). Start low, and do about 20 gentle reps. The pull on the bones strengthens them and you can feel a difference in a short period of time. Start with maybe 3-5 minutes several times a day, and build up. My favorte exercise is this: stand on your toes for a few seconds (maybe 5-10) and go back down. Do 20 repetitions, many times a day, and/or walk on your tippy toes for several steps keeping your neck up like a giraffe. There is no wrong way of doing it. Do this is as often as you can. I even do the toe up and down when standing in line for the cashier. These exercises are very powerful - don't under estimate them. Another good one is to stand with your feet a little bit apart, then bend your knees and go down a little bit but keep your back straight, like you have a broomstick along your spine. Never force anything that does not feel good to you.
Type II Undenatured Chicken Cartilage. This is so powerful that the Harvard University patented it. Undenatured means raw and it is the cartilage from the chicken's sternum. I personally would not eat that from a non-organic chicken because of the risk of contamination. There are many supplements on the market but many of them have been heat and/or chemically treated which destroys the effect. You need to do your own research on that. Tip: Dr. Joel D. Wallach is a Vet who has treated Arthiritis successfully in animals and people. I have red only an exerpt that was published online but I will get one of his books. He has used Chicken Cartilage and Gelatine, but I recommend to get only Organic Gelatine since the regular one is treated with heat and chemicals.
And last but not least: Minerals. If you have been eating non organic (conventionell) fruits and vegetables, or even worse - packeged stuff, you are definitely deficient in essential trace minerals. Your body cannot do without them or you get all kinds of diseases. The cheapest and quickest way to remedy this is to get Organic Blackstrap Molasses. Take about 1-2 teaspoons a day. Indefinitely if you want. In addition to this I have also taken Boron supplement. I take 2-3 capsules a day, each capsule containing 3mg. The late Dr. Rex E. Newnham has cured his own arthiritis with it.
So this is my contribution to this website. Everything I have stated here has helped me to control my arthritis to the point where I sometimes forget it is there. I have just started this regimen about a week ago and it has helped very quickly, almost instantly, especially the ACV/Honey/Ginger Tea. However, I am not a doctor or healthcare professional. Do your own research and before starting anything new consult your doctor first.
Good luck and all the best to all of you.
(Belfast N Ireland)
Hi all, I absolutely love this site. I've used many of the cures (tea tree oil to avoid headlice in 5yr old daughter, turmeric and ginger tea for MRSA) and have come away with perfect results. However, I've been diagnosed with arthritis in my hip and it has been suggested to me the only way to relieve my pain is to have my hip replaced. I'm 30 yrs young, I do not want to resort to surgery just yet so naturally I've come to earthclinic for advice. I've been drinking 2tbs of raw, unfiltered ACV with 1tsp of organic honey or Agave Nectar in 8oz hot water every night for the last 3 weeks and it has done nothing for my pain. I decided to add 1 spoonful of blackstrap molasses every morning to my regime (just started this yesterday) and also added 1/2 tsp of turmeric to my ACV tonic. I was hoping for some relief this morning, but I'm still in pain and limping around. I'm going to continue with all of the above, but wanted to see if anyone had any other advice or perhaps just some words of assurance that this could eventually reduce my pain. Sincerely, Katie
(Rocky Ridge, Oh)
i was a arthritus cripple at age 15yrs and got no help from doctors so i suffered for over 20 yrs before educating myself concerning natural products and now at 61, i am enjoying the best health of my life and most of the products discussed here i use regularly, apple pectin, wild origano oil, apple cider vinigar, coral calcium..yes i take them all and they all work!!chlorella also is a fantastic product and ditto for acai, gogi, they all work fantastically!
Although I've been very health conscious all of my life, including a diet which is mostly organic and vegetarian, I started to develop pain in the joints of my fingers, my knees and my neck. This was very frustrating to me, since I took a lot of pride in my health and my lifestyle. This wasn't supposed to happen to me.
Of course, most people told me that it was simply age that was causing this pain. I refused to accept that, since my Dad was still snow skiing at age 79. And my Dad was not really health conscious. The only difference between the two of us was that he lived in Switzerland, while I left Switzerland and had been living in the US for about 30 years.
So my intuition told me that it had something to do with the US food supply and/or water supply. By the way, the pain in my neck was really bad to the point I could barely move my head. I went to see a chiropractor, thinking I injured my neck exercising. Luckily, after a couple of sessions the chiropractor told me that it was probably arthritis. (of course, he too wrote it off to getting older).
I had previously read a couple of books and old studies on niacin and niacinamide (the form of niacin or Vitamin B3 that does not cause a flush when taken in large doses). So I knew that doctors in the past have cured all forms of arthritis with niacin. So I started taking 1500 mg Niacinamide with 1000 mg of vitamin C 2x daily. I started feeling better almost immediately but the pain didn't completely stop until about 2 weeks later.
I now take 1500 mg of Niacinamide and and 1000 mg of time released or liposomal vitamin C daily. I'm totally pain free.
Getting back to the difference in the food and water supplies between Switzerland, or Europe in general, and the USA. In Europe, GMO foods are illegal. But even more important, Europeans do not use glyphosate ("round up") as an herbicide.
Why is this important? Per Stephanie Seneff, researcher at MIT, glyphosate is responsible for a wide range of diseases in Americans. Glyphosate, which btw was derived from the Vietnam era "agent orange", is not only an herbicide but also an antibiotic, which means it wrecks havoc in your gut. Furthermore, glyphosate has a very similar molecular structure to the amino acid glycene. So in the production of proteins, glyphosate may inadvertently be substituted for glycene, producing defective proteins, which in turn cause all kinds of havoc to the body.
The bottom line is that glyphosate is responsible for widespread inflammation, including inflammation of the joints. So avoiding glyphosate is very important if you want to reduce or eliminate the cause of many forms of arthritis.
As a side note, not only do American farmers dump millions of tons of glyphosate on so called round-up ready GMO crops, but they use it for a totally unrelated purpose. They use it as a desiccant on wheat and other crops, right before harvest. (A desiccant dries the wheat, making it easier to harvest). So you get a really heavy dose of glyphosate when you eat bread or other wheat products. And this is also the reason, imo, that so many Americans claim to be gluten intolerant. It's not really the gluten but the glyphosate. That also explains why many Americans who visit Europe are able to eat the bread over there without any problems.
So in summary, if you want to get rid of arthritis, avoid glyphosate like the plague (only eat organic whenever possible), and supplement with Niacinamide and vitamin C. If your body is already saturated with glyphosate, bentonite clay and charcoal are great in eliminating toxins, including glyphosate.
I have used Niacinamide (or Niacin) effectively for arthritis pain. When doing so, I usually take 1500mg either 1x or 2x per day for about a week. Then I cut back.
I doubt the 35mg Grace1 mentioned in her 2017 post (posted below) does anything at all. That is far too little. In order for a vitamin (niacin is vitamin b3) to act as a drug, the dosage has to be far greater than what we normally take. I highly recommend all forms of niacin, especially niacinamide, since that does not cause a flush.
Grace1 (Pdx) on 05/05/2017:
"Some doctors in Montreal found Niacinamide to be a potent fungal and aspergilla's killer. It basically kills Candida infections/pathogenic fungi. This of course is something genuis Ted already knew. Niacinamide is especially effective against candida. The human equivalent dose was 35 mg and it was only administered only once. A second dose of Niacinamide was given 8 hours later. However, even a single dose was effective. While this dose is on the high end for niacinamide, for most people it would still fall under 3g, which is what mainstream medicine officially considers the upper safety limit for niacinamide. Niacinamide can cure Candida infection with a single dose. I think taking caprylic acid a before to first dissolve biofilm and then take Niacinamide and I also took two a dissolved aspirin in a glass of water and took it with the niacinamide this was a strongly effective way to go after it. Of course the obvious stuff which is be on the anti-fungal diet, helps and expect a die off so do gentle detoxification to assist the body in the process of clearing and healing." https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/candida13.html#niacinamide_185779
Has anyone got a remedy to cure/prevent Arthritis Nodules? I cured myself of the disease with ACV but still have the Rheumatoid factor, I have no pain or stiffness but I still get the nodules and have to have them surgically removed from my feet and elbows every couple of years. This is not really a problem but now I have one growing on my index finger and it's getting expensive to have them removed.
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)
Hi. I only discovered about oil pulling while browsing the web on information on how to cure me of my skin disorder (keratosis pillaris). I read a posting done by this lady who SWEARS by oil pulling and its remarkable effects! I tried it just yesterday and was shocked at how fast results can be observed! I'm suffering from a knee injury due to my active lifestyle and since i'm not exactly young, i don't recover too easily. I've been having a bad knee for weeks now. But when i did my first oil pulling yesterday, i got IMMEDIATE results! My knee felt so light and i was able to do squats with no problems! I'm really a sceptic so i was finding ways to credit the improved knee flexibility to other 'health practices' of mine. But when my mom tried it later that night (she sufferes from acute arthritis), she too said that her joints felt remarkably better! i did it again this morning and later today, my heart was racing. Also, i feel a bit of discomfort in my private region. I don't know if it could be because i had an infection before and it was probably in the process of healing... i'll continue the OP and see what happens! I'm a convert!
I believe I have the onset of arthritis in my hands, however that is not how I stumbled on to this remedy. One evening I woke up with a terrible throbbing pain in one hip. It would not stop with Ibuprophen, ACV or Tiger Balm. I've been using essential oils a lot in the past year and I also have strong faith so I said a prayer and sifted through my essential oils. I landed on oregano oil, I know it has strong medicinal value because it is a staple in thieves oil that I make. So I put 6 drops with a carrier oil (almond) and rubbed it directly into the area. Later I researched it and sure enough there were many articles on the effectiveness of oregano oil with fibromyalgia, arthritis, bursitis, joint pain. The pain went away rather quickly, 20 minutes. I put another dose before I went to bed and woke up with no pain. Funny thing the hand that I used to put on the ointment had no joint pain. The night before I had excess oil that I rubbed mostly into one hand. The other hand I did have pain in my joints. So this is definitely a keeper in my home remedy journal.
I am 74 yrs old and am a massage therapist. I put my hands through a lot of work. In the morning I used to wake up with stiff hands and pain during the day. I started taking organic sulfur and in two days the pain disappeared. There are different sources of sulfur, but make sure it is organic. I take the powder- it doesn't taste good, so camouflage it. Caps would be better.
(Ten Mile, Tn)
(Rancho Dominguez Ca)
(Rancho Dominguez Ca)
(Ten Mile , Tn)
(Ten Mile , Tn)
(Rancho Dominguez, Ca)
(Ten Mile, Tn)
(Ten Mile, Tn)
(Ten Mile , Tn)
i have found that to get rid of pain in many kinds of arthritis, pantothenic acid or B-5 is the bomb! you must dose it 2 500mg caps with every meal will get me out of pain in 3 or 4 days .i know they have done studies using as much as 10 grams a day without harm. the B-5 is somewhat stool softening. but it will leave the body every day. i don't have to take it every day, just when i hurt. i have been taking it for so many years, that if i catch the pain the first day and don't wait i can take 3 tabs in the morn and 3 at night and i am over it in 1 day. i have used this on many people over the last 10 years and it works even on gout. brenda