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Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Erin (Calgary) on 05/15/2021
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I've taken Apple Cider Vinegar for 30 years. Took a break for 2 or three years, I just always felt amazing. Lately, I've been super stiff. Joints, body, etc. Groaning when getting up, all that stuff. I started using Apple Cider Vinegar on my fish sticks and fries (I like salt and vinegar on fish and chips). I use like 6 or 7 cap fulls at a time on it. A couple capfuls per stick. Of course, after like 3 days of doing that, I'm magically, completely NOT stiff anymore.

I don't like drinking it in water, but I will. I prefer to just put it in a shot glass and shoot it if it's not on fish or french fries. ACV doesn't care if it's mixed with food. It's not picky. But wow, does it work.

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Posted by Marco (Bologna, Italy) on 02/20/2018

Try using a straw, it helps greatly. Also consume plenty of liposoluble vitamins and try approaching intermittent fasting and oil pulling, you will then be able to get down the Apple Cider Vinegar without issues.

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Posted by Sarah (Cornwall, Uk) on 11/04/2017

Thanks for your great, informative post..I'd like to avoid honey/sugars..d'you think the ACV would work as well on it's own for Heberden's nodes?

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Posted by Samaira (Allahabad, Uttarpradesh) on 05/22/2017

Ma'am can u plz tell me how to use it in case of rheumatoid arthritis, and after how many days ACV will show its effects. Ma'am plz reply

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Posted by Charlotte (Texas) on 04/18/2017

Organic apple cider, or organic apple cider vinegar??

EC: Organic Apple Cider Vinegar.

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Posted by Bel1954 (Santa Fe, Nm) on 04/03/2017 2 posts
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I had painful knee Arthritis with swelling and stiffness everyday. I tried a Cortisone shot helped for a month only and knee surgery was out of the question. I was desperate for relief! All I did was search on the internet for help. I found an article on benefits of drinking Organic Apple Cider. Since last Summer I drink 1 tablespoon with 6 oz. warm water everyday faithfully! I no longer suffer with pain or swelling my stiffness is very minimal to none. I am also not a big fan of taking OTC pain relievers and definitely no prescribed drugs!! Today I am a healthy pain free camper and feel healthier 😃

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Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 09/27/2016

HI U TEMIS,,,,,,,,,, don't want to rain on your parade, but the 101 year old woman has taken ACV since age 17. I don't think ACV is a silver bullet. It did not help my knee, but ozone shots did. At the same time ozone shots have not helped my back pain. Ice packs do. Another suggestion for you is to use Bio Freeze followed by DMSO on your knees. Wash knees and hands before. Also, take MSM.

Right now I got a case of the ass that I would like to pass around while I got the floor. My Atlanta Integrative doctor that wrote my Glutathione Compounding Prescription has moved on. I have the prescription formula and took it to the nurse practitioner that I use as my family physician. Her MD boss would not allow her to write this for use in a nebulizer.

She explained that I need to get a doctor that does that sort of thing. My Nurse got an education in profanity directed at him.I used this guy for 20 years and he never once listened to my heart, lungs or checked my ears, fingernails, tongue or throat. All he did was check my blood work. When I went to him, he could not believe that I did a niacin flush to detox. He only knew to write a niacin Rx for 500 mg to start for his high cholesterol patients. No one can stand that initially. I promise you that a regular EC reader is more knowledgeable in health, than their MD.

I only use MD's for physical things. The rest I research and do myself, if I can. There is a new deal out that uses the old and the new and is sweeping the medical field. That is UVLrx which is old as dirt, but is now coupled with ozone. Also, there is a new $3 dollar word out and it's called Functional Medicine. More and more MD's are going this way. They ain't dumb and money is not satisfying them. They want to help folks get healthy using natural things.

Ask any old patoot,,,,,, do you want your health or money? We all know the answer to that. ======ORH========

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Posted by Temis (Nyc) on 09/26/2016

Oh how funny you are....late 60's and knees are killing me. Will get on that ACV ASAP! Not that I haven't known about it but,, geez life just keeps shoving more problems in the way and have not yet gotten into the "habit"....will start right now.

Dear god,,, take away this pain.

Be well....thanks for the laugh and this is the BEST site in the world for your health by way of Mother Nature!!!

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Posted by Tana (Missouri) on 06/20/2016

Could you please tell me the amount of ACV and honey and if either is raw or organic, what the specifics are and amounts? I'd like to try this, if I can be hearty and healthy for my son his entire life then that would be a dream come true. I hope you reply, thanks so much!

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Posted by Marla (Us) on 05/29/2016
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I have horrible arthritis and within 2 1/2 weeks of starting the ACV, I have had no pain or symptoms since. It is a miracle.

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Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 01/14/2016

HI U Mmsg, , , , , , , , , glad you liked that story because it was true. I only come across things like this ever so often. The aunt is driving our hair friend crazy, because she wants to be the boss. Sounds right to me. I do think the ACV is the reason the aunt has lived a long healthy life.

This reminds me of the story of when the North Carolina country doctor learned that one sister never got breast cancer like her other sisters because she ate baking soda with molasses all her life.

Speaking of cancer, I got my DNA cancer read out today and I am slowly bringing down my numbers with my 3 cancer protocols. Yesterday I went to my Dermatologist and the two hickies on my face were sent off . He said he was certain that they were cancer, but not Melanoma. I could cure them with my Cruaderm but will opt out. If they don't get it all then I will handle that.

My next post will be about Timh. This fellow is sumpin else. He has been down so many dusty roads that he needs to stop posting and write a book. I truly admire this lad. He knows what has caused his problems and has helped lots of folks on EC.

Out of spit. =======ORH======

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Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 01/14/2016

What a hoot, ORH!!!!

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Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile , Tn) on 01/13/2016
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HI U OLE PATOOTS, , , , , , , , , got a wild and strange story to pass on via the lady who cuts our hair.

She is 74 and took in her 98 year old aunt 3 years ago. The aunt has an attitude problem, but is healthy as a horse now at 101. The Aunt worked in a school cafeteria until she was 92 and quit to care for her ailing husband. She takes no medicines or supplements. She started drinking ACV and honey at age 17 and does not miss her morning dose regardless.

Our hair lady says her aunt has no arthritis and will probably out live her.

I thought the EC bunch would appreciate this tale.


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Posted by Raj (Ca Usa) on 12/07/2015

Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar (with the mother) Is available at Amazon India and also at I have friends whose blood sugar level went down from 350 to 130 in 3 weeks. Taking 2 spoons am &'pm. Best, Raj

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Posted by Synthman (Johnstown, Pa.) on 11/15/2015

Gavin, New to this site.

Hey, do you have any pictures -before and after?? If you do it would be great to encourage others to try this. You would just have to show your hands-that's all. Ah...have you read whether or not soaking your hands in this mix-for xx minutes per day would help also??

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Posted by Nickie (London Uk) on 05/04/2015

Paul posted a while ago but no one pointed out that the US tablespoon is the equivalent of the British dessertspoon which is probably the cause of the wife's heartburn. Two caps full in 8 ounces of water is good - or to taste. If honey is used it should be dissolved in warm water only as hot will destroy the beneficial enzymes.

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Posted by William (Texas, US) on 04/12/2015
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I use 4 to 4.5 oz. of raw organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar to a gallon of filtered water with trace minerals added with a shot glass of stevia. I start with one gallon of apple cider vinegar that I add 2 table spoons of cinnamon and 3 or more table spoons of ginger. The ginger dissolves after a few days and what does not dissolves of the cinnamon settles to the bottom. From this I get the 4 oz. to add to the water. I consume about 3 or more gallons of this a week. Great PH balance beverage. The trace minerals added to the 6 gallons of water I consume per week three of which is apple cider vinager allows me to take 1100 to 1200 plus mg of magnesium per day with no side affects.

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Posted by Janet (New Mexico, US) on 11/16/2014

Get the incredible book "Pain Free" by Pete Egoscue. Your STRIDE may be the cause of joint pain. I walk pronate on one foot, supination on the other due to polio surgery. I found WEDGES, for the heel and they seem to help. I believe the solution is found by examining the movement of the body. With the book: look in the index for the MANY solutions to many issues, including migraines--then share with your friends. Good Luck!

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Posted by Ubound (Lebanon) on 09/20/2013
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I suffer from water on the knee since I was 18 years old (now 34). My knees swell from time to time for a few days then I am back to normal again for a week or so. It subsided for many months in a row but has been back in recent years. The condition wasn't severe, just slightly uncomfortable. I started taking ACV with water for another issue but realized that my knees didn't swell anymore. I was completely fine as long as I drank ACV. However once I stop ACV the attacks come back and are much more severe to the point that I can't leave the house for 2-3 days. This never happened before. I never had to change my plans or rearrange my schedule because of this condition before. I am puzzled. I know if I take ACV I will be fine, but once I stop it's very scary. I don't know if I should continue. Does anyone here experience worsening of symptoms when they stop drinking vinegar? Thanks!

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Posted by Francesca1971 (Tasmania, Australia) on 09/14/2013
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I began getting arthritis in my fingers and feet about six months ago. I now take two teaspoons of ACV morning and night diluted in a glass of water. Gone, within a couple of days. If I slack off a day or two my limbs begin to seize up again. Brilliant.

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 06/19/2013

I haven't got arthritis. The Mrs had it quite badly, but apparently its now in remission and it dosn't bother her. She takes root ginger tea, with a couple of capfulls of ACV. And a teaspoon of honey every evening. The amount of ginger is about a cubic inch diced up and put in a cup, then pore some boiling water to half fill the cup and leave it to steep for a couple of hours. When you want to drink, (save the ginger by straining the juice, and pour boiling water on it and let it steep in another cup, there still plenty of ginger oils left for another round and will be ok for another cupfull). Top the first cup up with boiling water and add the honey and vinegar. It takes a few days to feel the benifit as the ginger is acumulative. But the science says its as good as Iboprophin for pain, with no side effects. She also takes a 500mg vitamin c.

When I had a bad back the ginger cleared it up in a week, I dont know if it was arthuritis. For the past three months I've been juicing beet apple and carrots, and putting a capful of ACV with a squeeze of lemon in before drinking the concoction. This seems to be maintaining my health really well and after some exercise, like a brisk walk there is definiatly less fatigue involved than before. More than a glassful and the urine goes red, I was taking a glass morning and evening, but it seems quite potent so dropped it to a morning one.

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Posted by Estelle (Cape Town, South Africa) on 06/18/2013

Hi... A question for Gavin. I have tried to read exactly the amounts and what all must be used for pain in hands, arms, back and feet... Will it be possible to please send me a list of exactly what you use and also quantities, so I can get rid of the pain... Thanx!

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Posted by Iowama (Pella, Ia) on 05/29/2013
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Hi. I also drank a vinegar tea when osteoarthritis nodules first started to show on the joints of some of my finger tips. The nodules shrank and haven't returned to the same size. I switched to drinking distilled water with a little lemon juice and no sweetener throughout the day and upped my intake of minerals because I found it to be a more pleasant substitute. I still was puzzled as to why I would wake up some mornings with red and achy finger joints unrelated to work.

On the advice of a Doctor of Functional Medicine, I started an elimination diet and found that when I ate sugar or gluten, the inflammation would kick in again. This is not to say I'm cured. Sometimes I get carried away in the garden and suffer the consequences. I've read that arthritis can be a bit of a blessing in that even though it is caused by overuse, it can reveal an autoimmune problem. I do wish you success in finding out the source of your inflamation.

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Posted by Michael (Va Beach, Va) on 05/29/2013
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I've been taking Apple Cider Vinegar mixture with water and honey for a week now twice a day for arthritis in my hand and it seems the discomfort has intensified. Is that possible or have I not wait long enough for the ACV to actually work? Thanks for any comments.

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Posted by Lisa (Jarrell, Tx, Williamson) on 04/23/2013
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i also had tried ted's remedy of the borax... It has helped me.. I have had RA for 29yrs. What I do now is AVC w/honey and garlic started this in april. My inflammation has gone down alot (i can see all the damage in my joints)

  • 1 cup apple cider vinegar (must be organic) w/the mother
  • 1 cup raw honey
  • 8 cloves garlic

mix on high speed in blender for 60 seconds. Pour into a glass container. Seal & leave in the refrigerator for five days. Normal dosage is 2 tsp. In a glass of water or fruit juice, grape or orange juice is best before breakfast. I do this 3 times a day. it also has other benefits.

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Posted by Jyoti (Hyderabad, A.p.) on 07/22/2012

Thanx Baldev and Lakshmi, I've passed your info to my mom in law. She's actually fond of citrus things a lot she takes goose berry juice mixed with water etc. but doesn't gets much relief. My question is that is it curing her arthritis in any ways? Thanx

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Laxshmi (Mumbai, India) on 07/19/2012

Baldev and Jyoti, Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar is available in Mumbai at Naturally Yours, Ville Parle (E), Opp. Naveenbhai Thakkar Hall. They give you free Home Delivery all over Mumbai.

Hope you find it, Laxshmi

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Posted by Baldev (Mumbai, Maharashtra, India) on 07/19/2012 188 posts

Hi Jyoti, Where does your mother in law stay in Rajasthan? Unfortunately even in Jaipur you don't get Apple cider vinegar. I don't know whether you get it in Hyderabad. The awareness about ACV is now sinking in the Indian population so it may take some time for this product to be available like pepsi everywhere.

Your mother in law should change to alkaline diet and to start with she can take sodium bi carbonate with lemon juice mixed with water. Sodium bicarbonate she can get from any chemist shop or "Meetha Soda" which is used for some Indian cooking. Take 1/4 tea spoon of soda in a dry glass and put juice of one lemon in that, it will start frothing, once it sttles down put water about half glass stir it so that soda is completely disolved and then ask her to drink it. It should be taken half to one hour after the meal.

She should also take Borax which too can be procured from the chemist. Borax powder and not Boric Acid. Ask her to mix 1/8 tea spoon of Borax powder and 1/4 tea spoon of sea salt in one liter of filtered water and let her finish this one liter of water during the day. Let her do this for five days then give a break for two days and repeat for an other five days. She should get the relief. Good Luck. If you need any help you can call me 09322887066. Baldev

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Ed2010 (Oakville, Canada) on 07/17/2012

Use Ted's ACV and Baking Soda formula. Body has to become alkaline to cure arthritis.

Just google to find where to buy apple cider vinegar. Remember, not buy the regular vinegar that is availabe in all the stores. Buy apple cider vinegar that is not pasteurized and with mother.

Why don't you call justdial. com and find where to purchase apple cider vinegar. thanks

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Posted by Jyoti (Hyderabad, A.p.) on 07/17/2012

Hi, this is for my mother-in-law 60 suffering frm a bad arthritis pain from last many yrs now. After reading so many mails all of diff sugesstions I am highly confused how much Apple Cider Vinegar with how much honey and when in a day and till when? Everybody here has mentioned their own experiences but I am not able to sort out for her, pls suggest. She stays in rajasthan and don't know anything about Apple Cider Vinegar and from where to get this from? I am desperately waiting for ur reply. Pls guide. thanx joe.

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Posted by Valerie (Cleveland, Ohio) on 06/18/2012

Migratory arthritis is not usual for arthritis. One disease that causes it is Systemic Lupus. Do some research and if you think you have Lupus you will need a good rhuematologist. Good luck.

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Posted by John (Windsor, Ontario, Canada) on 01/17/2012
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Been completely free of arthritis and rheumatism for over 38 years by taking ACV daily in my drinking water. I like the tart taste and do not use honey.

John GOD Bless

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Posted by Muckracker1 (Evansville, In) on 12/01/2011
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I am currently using cinnamon and raw apple cider vinegar for hip and knee arthritis. It has helped greatly though I have been using it about 10 days.

One thing many people don't know about over the counter pain relievers; when used for arthritis, they wind up, over time, destroying cartilage. So, you wind up needing joint replacements because the pain reliever you used to banish the pain, banished the pain and destroyed your cartilage.

A friend of mine was very succussful using raw apple cider vinegar to alleivate gout, also.

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Posted by Dr. Dinakar Madiman, M.d., Ph.d. (Bangalore, India) on 11/25/2011
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I recommended ACV (American Garden), which was easily available in Mantri Mall, Sampige Road, Bangalore-560003, to be taken with Honey, in 3:1 ratio (15ml of ACV and 1ml of Honey plus 100ml water). This has given some good improvement in Knee Joint condition, after 3 weeks' treatment.

I feel however that Organic Unfiltered Unpasturated ACV ( so-called 'Mother'grade) will work much better and faster to give good results.

I want to know where this particular ACV (any brand) is available in Bangalore.

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 10/24/2011

I think it was about a week on cayenne, Turmeric and ginger, before I noticed that the lower back was pain free... But I take a swig of MSM. In the evenings and a dollop of honey and apple cider vinegar mornings and evenings. I started that for sinus headaches and they stopped immiediatly. I take 3mgs of boron and a kelp tablet everday. I tried a course of haluronic acid, like a month without problems then it seemed that old bone injuries were playing up, so I stopped it and in a couple of days they stopped playing up. I also have a couple of raw cloves of garlic, everday. And three capsules of fish oil. Plus a popular multi vitamin for over fifties. If all this sounds a bit much its just to cover all the bases. I dont ache any more and I have no lines or wrinkles. I'm going on 65 and feel better then I did at fifty. I'm sure the main problem was not getting essential elements.. The Mrs has slightly deformed joints wrist and foot. , but shes on basicly the same as me but hasnt had a flair up for a long time.

There's a type two collagen product they make in Canada it was reported in the prestigious science magazine Nature, that is made from chicken breast cartilidge.. It seems the nearest thing for a cure to the condition, as the trials were very positive, any review in "Nature" is subject to rigourous assesment.. In a double blind all on the chicken supplement were virtually cured.. All on the placebo showed no change.. I've ordered some from the manufacturers for the mrs.. Its called NU JOINT (sorry ec) if anyones interested.. Its either that or process your own chicken breasts.. I hope this helps.

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Posted by Sonja (Toronto, Ontario, Canada) on 10/23/2011

Hi, I'm a newcomer to Earth Clinic, and have a question for Gavin from Manganui, Northland, New Zealand. I've had osteoarthritis on my knees and lower back for some years, and recently seemed to have also developed rheumatoid arthritis in my knees and fingers. Could you please please post the details of the remedies that you use such that you are able to move two tons of wood without pain? Thanks so very much.


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Posted by Timh (Louisville, Usa) on 10/18/2011 2083 posts

Elyn, if the drinking of ACV (the contact w/ teeth) is your problem, there is available ACV in tablet form (the form I use). From my history of painful teeth, it was almost always a vit-D/Calcium deficiency. I've never tried it, but there is a growing need and awareness for the mineral Strontium, which is also important for bones and teeth. Also, vit-C is also critical for strong bones and teeth. Also, Oil Pulling might help regulate mineral balance in your body. Hope this helps. Good luck!

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Posted by Elyn (Oklahoma City, Ok) on 10/17/2011
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Better But With Side Effects

I had been drinking 1 TBSP each of ACV and store-bought honey with really warm water morning and night. I began to really like the taste of it and it seemed to be helping my arthritis (I'm 53). BUT -- my teeth began hurting after several months. I think the acid was destroying my teeth. I wonder if the baking soda would help? I have granuloma annulare on both hands and arms-- a nasty, ugly, painless rash-- and it really lessened while I was taking the ACV. My boss and coworker noticed that it really had mostly gone away, so that was exciting. But I've shied away from the ACV because of my teeth. I will try it again with the little bit of baking soda. Thanks!

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Posted by Noel (Palm Springs, Ca, Usa) on 10/11/2011

Try ACV with Baking soda.... 2TBS apple cider vinegar with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda with 6 oz of water. This will help remove the acidity of the vinegar with the same effective cure of the apple cider vinegar.

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Posted by Iowama (Pella, Ia/usa) on 08/16/2011
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I have concluded that the ACV tonic is working well for me. I quit drinking coffee and started drinking one cup of this tonic per day about 6 weeks ago and began to notice that the nodules on my finger joints appeared less inflamed and they also appeared to be smaller and that other joints were no longer hurting. Also, I have just felt so energetic. I had started oil pulling just a week prior, so I wasn't sure which remedy was helping with the arthritis. Then I stopped drinking the tonic for just the past 2 days and today the pain came back in some of my joints. I guess I have my answer! I am mixing 1 TBSP ACV with 1/8 tsp baking soda. Somewhere on this site, I read that men can use 1/4 tsp of baking soda. After all the fizzing is finished, I stir in hot water and a teaspoon of honey. Now that I'm sure it is working for me, I will start to experiment with some of the other ACV teas that posters have suggested. I would like to send my sincere thanks to Ted and to all who have recorded their stories for the benefit of all of us.

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 07/29/2011

Hi sharon. I actualy cut the ginger into thin slices about a inch by half inch cube.. Chop some garlic like two to three cloves and give them a quick stir fry in a wok... Then push it over to one side and fry some organic bread untill its crispy.. Im using grapeseed oil... Then flip the bread out and put the garlic and ginger on top... Then the cayenne gets pressed into the corner of the bread, and a bit of tumeric on top of the cvayenne... I fry an egg and pop this on top. I eat the corner with the cayenne and tumeric first. The Oil takes most of the heat out.. And then just finish the rest off... Ive been doing this everyday now for months, about noon.. And for some reason have not got tired of it. By sweating the Garlic in the wok a bit, you can eat more as its not raw. It certainly settled the back issue. But it compliments eveything, its the ACV and Honey that initialy clear the sinuses.

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Posted by Sharon (Portlaoise, Co.laois Ireland) on 07/27/2011

Gavin I was just wondering if you mixed the ginger, tumeric, and cayenne together? Or if you took it seperately?

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 07/26/2011

This is an update on my wife's Arthritis.. Due to all the natural cures and ideas posted. With her aquiesence I decided to "shotgun" the condition provided the "naturals" were not harmful. She is off the Prednisone with no problems. Her rhumatoid factor results are normal.. But the Rhumitologist wanted her to stay on a low dose of Methotrexate 10mg a week because he was worried it might flare up. I have the suspicion that the drug might not be standing much of a chance with regards to the amount of antioxidents in the shotgun mix. Health wise she's really good, and the condition she's had for at least twenty years isnt impacting her life at all.

Here is a list of what she's taking.. I subsituted the prednisone with a cup of ginger root tea, with a teaspoon of honey, and a cap of ACV. in it before bed.... 1000mg of vitamin C.. 3mg of Boron.. One Centrum over fifties vitamin and mineral pill.... 2 capsules of 450mg Devils claw... Selenium with ACand E... 1 zinc B6 and Magnesium... 3 high potency fish oil caspsules.... And MSM.... I had to drop the Glucosamine and Chondritin.. due to the headaches, caused by the mix of MSM and Chondritin. (thanks to whoever posted that information). These went when it was dropped.. But definitaly maintained the MSM.. I didnt want to just use Boron as copper and all the rest of the minerals are all notes in the music.. (So to speak). Theirs also a teaspoonful of virgin Coconut oil everyday. Her skin is lookin, really good and any post menopausal symptoms are non existent. In fact after two months of this shes definitly not having any problems.

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Posted by Oppiesee (Cape Town, Sa) on 07/13/2011

Sounds great Gavin! Keep up the good work! I wonder why it is so hard for people to try the natural cures instead of all the chemicals that they gladly swallow at huge costs?

My dad was a great "home doctor", he had a remedy for every ailment. He had a concoction for burns that worked so well. Wish I could get the recipe somewhere. It was yellowish and a bit oily. I know there was lime in it. It was either slaked lime or agricultural lime. (don't know if my translation to english is correct) When my mom wanted to make some more years after my dad passed on she was told that she can't buy/use it as it is toxic.

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 07/13/2011

Thank God you had us worried. I moved two ton of wood yesterday bending and lifting.. Six months ago I would have been laid up for a month. Ive no pain in the lower back area at all. Ginger tumeric and cayenne sorted it out really well but I still had to be carefull, but since adding the MSM its the third week since starting it.. And it feels like their never was a problem. It has done something on a very basic level. I'm 64 years old and getting more supple than I've been for a very long time.

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Posted by Oppiesee (Cape Town, Sa) on 07/13/2011

Yes, I got that a bit wrong! I've read up on Boron/Borax sites now too and have adjusted the amount of borax to that what clings to a wet fingertip.

If the lumps on my fingers continue to recede at this rate I will be able able to report "CURED! " soon.

Right Hand can close properly already with all 4 fingers almost straight, bending properly and touching the palm. Can use it properly now, no pain when using it.

Left hand ring finger was always unafflicted, pinky still skew but almost no swelling of the joints and already touching the palm, this is the only finger where both joints were afflicted. Index finger still skew with fairly swollen joint and not close to touching palm, middle finger was worst, still skew, joint still huge but protruding hump almost gone, still not bending much but getting better daily.

Looking forward to adding the MSM to the brew.

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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 07/12/2011

CRIPES!!!!! Just lick your finger shove it into the Borax and swirl it around in an 8oz grlass of water.. Thats the rule of thumb amount. What your taking is heading for toxicity.

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Posted by Oppiesee (Cape Town, Sa) on 07/12/2011

Thanks for the information. I had to look up MSM first, I had no idea what it was. This weekend I will have a look what brands are available at the chemist.

I am wondering if the teaspoon borax a day is a bit much? I have headaches the last 3 days and also often feel nauseous. It is not conditions that I normally get.


The borax dosage, as posted multiple times on this site, is NO MORE THAN 1/8th - 1/4th of a teaspoon of borax in at least 1 liter of water a day, sipped throughout the day.


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Posted by Gavin (Manganui, Northland, New Zealand) on 07/10/2011

Hi can I suggest that you start taking MSM.. As well I'll post shortly with regards to my wife's battle with RA. It seems that after taking it for a few days it compilments all the other stuff and the various conditions improve exponentialy. Just about every modern food has had this essential ingredient removed, The science on the Calcium and potasium cycle is reasonably well known but the Sulphur cycle appears to be missed until recently. Unfortunately, modern man might in the future have to supplement this.

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