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Cure Bacterial Vaginosis (BV)
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BORIC ACID
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[YEA] 11/17/2009: Vee from Nyc, Nyc writes: "Boric Acid for Bacterial Vaginosis
Use 100% Boric Acid from the store. make sure it's pure, no other additives. Use an applicator from another vaginal product. I used the applicators from a previous yeast infection creme. Just wash in HOT water and soap, or a little bleach if you want. What ever you use, make sure that you rise the applicators well and let dry. Fill the applicators, then insert. Wear a mini-pad there might be some discharge. It takes a few days, no more than a week. You can also use this to keep fresh and for yeast infections. There should not be any irritation. GOOD LUCK!!"
Replies[YEA] 11/26/2011: Nolimits from New York City, Ny replies: "I have been suffering with BV for 10 years (on and off). After reading posts about Boric Acid I decided to try this remedy out of desperation. Nothing else has worked for longer than 2 weeks. Boric Acid can be purchased for 1.00 at most dollar stores. I make my own capsules. Initially I used 2x per day for 14 days. After day 1 the odor was gone. I use one capsule after intercourse and a capsule each night of my menstrual cycle. I have been symptom free for one year. It is like a miracle."
12/09/2011: Mandy from Ny replies: "This is Mandy from NY, I wrote here before, I went back to the doctor and she gave me flagyl again, I said look, there has to be something esle I can do, I asked her about boric acid, she said it is effective, though my insurance does not cover, I said give it to me, I pick it up tomorrow, Im so desperate, Im tired of being sad and lonely and smell like ffish and have classmates laugh and talk about me, I'm not a dirty woman, I clean my vag but this bv wants to stay, get the hell out of here already, Im screwed to use boric acid, but I'm at my wits end, I have no choice, I start tomorrow night, I will write back on Monday, please wish me luck, it has been 7 nasty years, and I want to get intimate with my new man( I have not yet:((() fingers crossed..."
[YEA] 12/10/2011: De De from Charlotte, Nc replies: "omg I read every last post on here and I've been dealing with bv since 2007 and I thought I was in this bubble by myself. I will get cured and then it's back again I thought it was my bf giving it back to me but they say its not sexually transmitted okay so why its coming back? But now I see where others have reoccurence, my dr told me about the boric acid so now I'm taking these capsules. I went and got a prescription filled and I see where you can make your own. I'm so gonna keep some handy, close by I just hope others find this site or dr talk to their patients more about this...... Back to normal- I feel so fresh."
[YEA] 12/13/2011: Mandy from Ny replies: "This is Mandy again. I took the boric acid on saturday, it is now, Tuesday, for the first time I have no smell, I was in class today and was able to get up and go back and forth to the printer without the smell of fish coming from me, I was so happy, I swear I hope this last, I pick up my re fill this saturday, I will be back to let you know, I have tried everything and this was my last resort, Ai will be back here Friday...... I tell you one day seems like a lifetime!!!"
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10/05/2009: Cazi from Huntington, Ny writes: "I am 54, divorced 4 and a half years and finally had sex about a month ago. Yes you guessed it...my first bout of BV ever! All the symptoms but luckily no odor.
I am curious about the boric acid. Where do you buy it? Is it a prescription? Is it granular? 'I already take probiotics so I am wondering if I need to increase the amount i take. Can one insert an oral probiotic capsule directly into the vagina?
I read last night to try a shallow bath with some tea tree oil. I put some on a wet washcloth and applied directly to my labia...it stung at first, but I must say.... no itching last night. (I've found that the itching is MUCH worse at night)
In addition, my gyno suggested trying to sleep with no undies on and to try to keep the area "aired out" whenever possible."
Replies07/01/2011: Gloria from Yucca Valley, Ca replies: "I saw the following post at Yahoo Answers about boric acid suppositories/capsules and thought it was worth posting here:You will find that you have increased watery discharge throughout treatment, so it's advisable to wear a panty liner or sanitary napkin on days when you're using the capsules. 2cap/day for 7 days is excellent and should resolve the problem entirely. You should notice changes within 2 days, stick with the treatment for a full course, though.
I would advise against intercourse while you're undergoing treatment, because it may irritate sensitive tissues for both of you. There wouldnt be a significant impact on the efficacy of the sponge, but the micro-tears that can happen in vaginal tissue during intercourse could increase the amount of boric acid absorbed, which is a bad thing. (You're not looking to absorb it, you're looking to have an immediate and direct effect on the local bacteria. )
Once you're done the boric acid treatment, it is a good idea to do a single course of probiotics. Look for a product that contains a blend of strains, but be sure that it contains L. Caseii (the predominant "good bacteria" in healthy vaginal flora. ) 9-12 billion CFU should be sufficient - take them orally, 2 cap/day away from food. And if you choose, you could also insert 1 cap/day as a vaginal suppository for 3-4 days."
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[YEA] 05/28/2009: Feelingfree from Greensboro, NC writes: "if anyone can find an apothecary type pharmacy in your town, request boric acid suppositories...my gyno in college reccomended this-i freaked when she told me about it-i thought who in the world would put something like that down there...i did some research and years later i was brave(and desperate) enough to try it...it worked! they are a little costly-about $25 for 20 or 24 i think...but they work well-id use them 2 or 3 times a week(insert vaginally at bedtime-and wear a pantyliner for leakage)...and using the boric acid supp. in conjunction with acidophlus pills work really well!!! now, im new to Greensboro, so, i am looking to locate an apothecary asap! most regular pharmacies dont make the supps..."
Replies07/10/2009: Tonika from High Point, North Carolina replies: "If you haven't found a pharmacy yet, there is one in High Point called McLarty Drug on Church Street (off of N. Main Street). A real pharmacist that can actually mix compounds runs the place. I have purchased 600mg boric acid capsules from this drug store (I have a prescription). I got 60 capsules for $27.00. Hope this information helps."
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[YEA] 05/11/2009: Patricia from San Jose, CA writes: "This is in response to some women questioning whether BV gets totally cured with acidophilus, and why you would need to continue taking the treatment. I have read extensively about BV and you may not like it but the truth is that every person is different and our bodies work differently. So you have to find out what works for YOU and YOUR BODY. Also, each man's body chemistry will be different from another man's. Just like women's bodies are different, the level of acidity in men's sperm varies greatly from person to person. So the level of acidity in your partner's sperm may very well be aggravating your sensitive vagina! Also, the acidity in sperm can also change depending on their diet. Boric acid vaginal suppositories also work very well for BV. I was married for a long time and never had any problems or any BV. But a few years after we broke up, and several sexual partners later, I started having problems with BV and it didn't stop for years and years. I would make the same rounds everyone has going back and forth to the Drs. DAMN it gets OLD! and you know its not good for your body to keep taking antibiotics. But what other choice did most of us have if thats what your Dr says you need to do and you dont realize there are alternatives? Well I moved to Portland, OR which you know is a very progressive and liberal city. So many people are into alternative medicine and lifestyles. Its like a way of life for most people living there. Anyway, I got BV again! and did not have health coverage at the time, so I went to planned parenthood. They gave me a sheet with information on BV which most of which I'd read tons of times before. But on the back it listed a home remedy, for women predisposed to BV, which was to make boric acid vaginal suppositories and insert one every night before going to bed, will usually prevents BV in most women. This changed my life, literally! I went to a health food store and purchased all vegetable material, natural capsules. So it will not hurt you and you dont have to remove any leftover material or worry about it cuz they just dissolve inside your vagina. I also was able to buy a bottle of powdered boric acid at Long's, just over the counter. If you cannot find it, ask the pharmacist, they know where everything is, even out on the shelves. Then you pour some of the powder into a small cup or bowl, open a capsule holding one half in each hand, and scoop them through the powder, towards each other. Filling up the capsules with powder, then close the capsule. roll it between your palms to remove excess powder. I buy the supplies which is definitely less than $10. and Ill make a bunch of them. I keep them in a little jar in my medicine cabinet. I do not take one every night, but I know RIGHT AWAY when my vagina is not feeling fresh, I will treat myself right away and nip it in the bud before it gets bad! Ill insert 1-2 capsules, in the morning at noon and at night. This always cures it right away. The only downside is about 6 hrs after insertion, I have a GUSH! of watery discharge. So much that you literally need to have a tampon or pad in place or your pants will get wet. But I have found this works amazingly. I dont have to take something every day and I suffered from it for so long that like I said I know right away when somethings not right. My finace even knows about them. He thought it was a little weird at first but as soon as he realized how good they work, he's just glad I have a safe and easy home remedy that I can treat myself as often as I want without an expensive trip to the Drs and endless rounds of antibiotics. Anyway, reading that the level of acidity in men's semen can vary depending on diet made me think that it was only logical that our bodies being out of balance is most likely tied to our overall health. Im sure that being a healthy weight and exercise as well as diet will affect our bodies, vajayjays and immune system overall. Something to think about. Thank you to everyone who posted here! Forgot to mention that my 16 yr old daughter is suffering from recurring vaginal infections. She is not sexually active yet, but you know im not surprised because she had constant yeast infections when she was a baby. She is having yeast infections and one UTI already and recurring urinary tract pain and an itchy vulva. I have her currently treating herself with boric acid suppositories and it has helped A LOT and given her a lot of relief. But the itching and urinary tract pain did not go away. She was living with her dad for a little while which is why this went on for a while without me overseeing her treatment. But she is back with me so Ive been treating her with natural remedies and she is open to home remedies cuz she doesnt want to keep going to the Dr and she said the meds they prescribed didn't work anyway cuz the infection just kept coming back! Anyway, I finally broke down and took her to a Dr and they tested her for STDs without my permission!! They didnt even tell me, they spoke to her about it! anyway, all her tests came back negative, so I dont know what is going on or why she is getting itchiness and urinary tract pain.But I am going to buy acidophilus & folic acid tomorrow and start treating her. Hopefully this will be the cure we're looking for for her! Thanks again to everyone for sharing your stories!"
Replies06/21/2011: Priscilla from Billings, Montana replies: "I have been struggling with BV since I was 14 years old. I am now 26. I get them at least 4 to 5 times a month. Always at the doctors office. I am tired and broke. I want to try the boric acid.... Only I am curious how do you insert them? what tool do you use?"
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[YEA] 05/01/2009: Wealthyheart from Northern Cambria, PA writes: "Using Boric Acid for BV. Use only half a capsual full twice a day for 2 weeks to 1 month. I have BV real bad so I used it for 1 month but I also took an antibiontic which I shouldn't have. Now I need to waite 2 weeks before I can start my 1 month Boric Acid treatment. It's important that I waite 2 weeks before starting again and It's important that I take no antibionics while on my treatment. If I do, I won't get rid of my BV and eventualy hurt my body over time. If you feel a bladder infection coming on take a few swings of Apple Cider Vinger 3 times a day for 3 days and your systems should go away. No more than a half a capsual full either. Too much to fast don't work and what your body don't use will run out and too much to fast is not good for your body. Now after your BV goes away you can Still use the Boric Acid to help keep your ph in check by useing 1 half of a capsual full 2 times a week for up to 6 months to a year. My 2 weeks of waiting starts today and 14 days is gonna b long and hard for me but i do want to get better and rid of BV. Good luck to you all and I will be back intouch when my 1 month treatment is all said and done. Remember all of what I wrote so you don't screw up like i did. Smile always. "
Replies09/11/2009: J from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "Hi Patricia - I was checking to see if the Boric Acid suppositories are still working for you? I have been struggling with BV for a year, countless doctor's visits and prescribed antibiotics, trying home remedies, i.e., folic acid, probiotics, etc and still get this awful discharge! It's irritating both in the mental and physical sense!!! I am going to try the Boric Acid supp. I pray it works for me too!"
10/25/2010: London from Sandusky , Ohio replies: "The key to Boric acid really working for me is to use it along with the tea tree oil suppositories that I use. I fill a :00: capsule with 5 drops tea tree oil and the rest castor oil, and insert along with the boric acid capsule overnight for 3 to 7 night. One of each. Its so much better than just using the boric acid on its own."
11/17/2011: Susano from Chicago, Il replies: "I'm not one to sleep around, but every time I have sex with a guy (protected, of course) I get a yeast infection. So it's been two guys in 6 months and the Doctor is hauling me in for yet ANOTHER culture so I can get a scrip to get rid of the damn yeast infection. I did a monistat 1 a week ago and the itching is gone, but the discharge remains. I went in yesterday.This one's new: I have been prescribed Boric Acid Suppositories by my Dr and she's looking into my pH, blood sugar, etc. She has also prescribed L. Acidopholus to get my healthy bacteria back in line. I'm all good with this, but I have one question:
Yesterday was the first day of my period, I only use tampons. Is it correct to use the suppositories while using tampons during your period, or should I wait until period ends to start the scrip? I'll be calling the doc and plan to report back, but it's a valid question in the mean time. It would suck to spend $$ on it just to have a tampon soak it all up and have zero results. Hopefully someone has this answer.
People have talked about inserting tampons to hold their solutions "in. " Since tampons are meant to absorb fluids, I question this decision, except when there is a fluid response great enough to warrant such measures. I don't mean to question these practices critically, especially when I can't stand having gooey, mushy, smelly parts in my pants; but if the meds will do better while I put up with goo and mush, vs. Clean, tampon-use, I choose better meds. I just want it gone.
Thanks for your consideration.
Another Susan from Chicago."
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[YEA] 01/05/2009: Lisa from Webb City, MO, USA writes: "Remedy: Boric Acid.
Ailment: Bacterial Vaginosis
Boric acid capsules will help heal this problem. You can buy the boric acid at a pharmacy, along with gel capsules. You can fill them yourself. Take a piece of paper, dump out the boric acid and fill them up. Each capsule, medium size, will hold a maximum of 500mg, which is safe to use as a suppository twice a day. This is not for oral consumption. I've been told to do this twice a day for 30 days, and my BV is gone.
And I've tried everything practically, folic acid, Flagyl, any type of prescription for BC a doctor can give you.
There is a plastic applicator you can buy to put the capsule in to place in your vagina. Best remedy for me. Thank you."
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[YEA] 12/17/2008: Lisa Butler from Webb City, Missouri, USA writes: "I've had bacterial vaginosis for over five years. I've been to four gynecologists. I make my own boric acid capsules. You buy everything you need from the pharmacy, gel capsules and boric acid. Using one tablet in the morning, and one tablet at night, my bacterial vaginosis is almost completely gone. Boric acid in your vagina will not hurt you, do not be scared to try this. You don't want to eat it. I also take __, a probiotic, one pill a day.
I can understand how frustrating this problem is, having endured it for so long. Try the boric acid for two weeks and see if you don't notice a difference.
And one other thing, use Dove bar soap, no fragrance. Always wear cotton underwear and if you can go without underwear at night, go for it.
I've tried all the prescriptions the doctor gives you, and my husband and I both took Flagyl, this didn't work for me. Good luck and God bless."
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[YEA] 10/28/2008: Felesha from Tulsa, OK writes: "I have had BV for 4 months now. I have tried everything... peroxide douch, folic acid, acidophilus, plus that terrible flagyl that makes your food taste like metal. I have found a doctor that struggles with BV and her words of wisdom is BORIC ACID. I have been taking it for 7 days and feel so much better. I still have another week to go. I'll keep you posted.
Also,I found a website on how to make your own Boric Acid capsules at http://community.livejournal.com/vaginapagina/4554521.html
I did not make my own. I had a prescription. I just wanted everybody to be aware of another alternative BORIC ACID."
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[YEA] 01/15/2007: Liz from Atlanta, GA writes: "Boric acid really works to prevent bacterial vaginosis. Just insert one 600mg capsule half full before bedtime and the odor is gone."
Replies05/22/2008: Tonya from Okinawa, Japan replies: "Bacterial Vaginosis Remedies: HELP!!!! Where in the world would I get Boric Acid from? I looked here at the BX and the Commisary and neither one of these places have it. Since we are overseas, I wouldn't know where else to look. I bought Folic Acid, Acidophilus, Aspirin and Hydrogen Peroxide tonight and I will begin trying these remedies as I have fought with BV for years and I've about had it! I'm getting desperate for anything to work at this point. I will listen to anything! Any feedback is great! Thank you! ~Tonya"
[WARNING!] 06/02/2008: Michele from Atlanta, GA replies: "Please be careful about the Boric Acid....it really only helps with a Yeast Infection...from my experience."
[YEA] 10/06/2008: Tina from Hull, MA replies: "Hi, I have always been given boric acid by my gyn for bv. I've never used it for yeast."
12/22/2011: Dee from Wixom, Michigan, United States replies: "FYI - C-Boric acid capsules are now being prescribed by Gynecologists specializing in BV. It had previously been "an oldie but goodie" cure used for recurrent yeast infections (particularly in diabetic patients unable to take azole drugs). The pharmacist explained to me that it actually works to kill both yeast and bacteria (if used until the infection is completely gone) because nothing can live in boric acid for very long."
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BORIC ACID AND ACIDOPHILUS
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[YEA] 09/06/2011: C. Marie from Atlanta, Ga, Usa writes: "Hello everyone!! I have been struggling with BV for about 2 years or so. The first few times I used the metro gel and that worked but lately it keeps coming back no matter what. I think I have finally found a cure!!! (At least for me anyway!! ) I bought several supplements/probiotics to help boost my system. I bought one that is SPECIFIC for the good bacteria in the vagina called Femadohpilus (sp?)... Is has L. Reuteri and L. Rhamnosis. LADIES IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET THE PROBIOTICS THAT ARE REFRIDGERATED... This will ensure LIVE cultures. I also took ultimate flora and Acidophilus, Folic acid and Vitamin C. After about a month of taking these items to boost my system with good bacteria, the second thing I did was insert Boric Acid suppositories into my vagina. My doctor reccomended 1 supp every night for 3 nights and then one a week for 2 months. This will help get the PH back to normal, that way the good bacteria can thrive. So far things are looking GREAT for me!!!! No smell... Some discharge but I think its from the suppositories. My doctor called me in a script for the boric acid suppositories... I had to pick it up at a COMPOUNING pharmacy.... You can not get them at a regular pharmacy... unless you want to make the capsules yourself.
My regimen was 3 capsules the Fem a dophilus (with the L. Reutera and rhamnosis), 1 ultimate Flora capsule, 2 acidolphilus, 2 folic acid (800mg), and 1 vit C. I split these up between morning and night. I also drank and half cup of Kefir per day... It is pretty much a yogurt smoothie but LOADED with probiotics.... you can usually get it in the health food section of you grocery store.
After one month I started the Boric acid suppositores to help balance my PH. I do plan to ween myself off most of the probiotics after a while... maybe only keeping a couple of them on my regimen (it can get kinda expensive to stay on it to a long period).
I HOPE THIS HELPS!!!!! MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL OF YOU!!! I will also check back and let you know if the BV comes back."
Replies10/02/2011: Tjana from Atlanta, Ga replies: "Hi there. I also live in Atlanta and have been dealing with recurrent bv and/or yeast for the last 5 months and have been prescribed Flagyl (twice), metrogel, and Terazol. After the awful discharge came back the last time (the day after I finished the Flagyl), I decided to go the natural route and began to use VH Essentials BV home treatment. It seemed to have taken away the itch but the discharge is back 3 days after using the last suppository. I'm also taking the Femdophilus, Kefir (Immunity shots), and Folic acid. I am trying a new doctor tomorrow but would be really curious in knowing how the boric acid suppositories work for you and which doctor has you on this treatment plan. Hopefully my appointment tomorrow will be worthwhile but if not, I'd love to know which physician you used. My last one just wanted to give me antibiotics. Please keep us posted."
10/04/2011: Cnadiana2 from Stockertown, Pa replies: "Did anyone have side effects from using boric acid? I just got some but am unsure about using it, as it does say not to get on skin. When you fill yours, do you wear gloves? The brand I got is made by Humco 6oz bottle boric acid powder nf. Has anyone else used this to make their suppositries? As I am currently taking antibiotics for respitory infection, how long should I wait before using boric acid sup.?"
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[YEA] 06/10/2008: Change from Flint, Michigan writes: "I am not really writing about acidophilus. But I do know this go to like cvs or walgreens and pick up boric acid from behind the counter in the pharmacy. Make sure it is the powder one and not the pills. While taking a shower get like a quater size of powder add a little water and insert in your vagina. It kills bacteria. Do this everyday until you see or smell no signs of bv. Also take 1 dan active immunity yogurt a day. It contains lactobicilus (sp) good bacteria in what you will need. Also ladies the finger wipe is good. Get some soap (dove preferrably) On one finger and insert it into your vajayjay. This is like a finger bathe for your vajayjay. I have had bv for 4 years."
Replies11/30/2009: As1990 from Swink, Colorado, United States replies: "Don't ever stick soap directly into your vagina, it kills good bacteria, which is what is causing the bv in the first place"
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BORIC ACID AND FENUGREEK
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[YEA] 12/04/2011: Christina from Ny writes: "I've been battling bv for nine years. Feeling very tired, annoyed and ashamed of the problem I decided to permanently rid myself of its annoying presence. The prescriptions that my doctor gave me were too expensive and did nothing to cure it. So I decided to take a more holistic/nonconventional way. My first nonconventional approach was a douche bottle filled with 50 percent water and 50 percent hydrogen peroxide with a little tea tree oil. As well as taking orally acidophilus, vitamin c, folic acid, echinacea, golden seal, iron, vitamin b-12, and vitamin, d-3. It did subdue some symptoms but it did not completely work for me. So my next step was filling a douche bottle with 50% Organic Apple Cider Vinegar and 50% water, along with the same long list of supplements previously mentioned. This method still didn't work for me, however it did help cleanse the vagina.
Finally what rid me of the problem completely was inserting boric acid using the vaginal applicators from my previous prescriptions as well as taking 3-6 fenugreek 610mg pills orally a day. I'm blessed to say that I have been bv free for a year now. I would like to thank this site and its contributors for giving me what seems to be a second chance at life. As well as opening my eyes to the possibilities, of hidden and secret cures. I'm very curious as to why there isn't much research in alternative medicine.
****Good Luck****"
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BUTTERMILK
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[YEA] 07/30/2009: Richa from Pune, India writes: "Hi all,
I had bv for a long time...n it was really bad.....but i am extremely happy to say that now its been completely cured... as i had read in a lot of articles that yogurt, curd, buttermilk contain probiotics that help body regain its natural microbial flora, I increased my daily buttermilk intake...thus, i recommend a glass of buttermilk, per day for getting rid of bv....
If you do not get ready buttermilk, you just have to take two spoons of yogurt, mix well and add drinking water to make a glass full of buttermilk..
This is really an effective way, rather than taking tablets and other medications."
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08/19/2007: kisce from Columbus, Georgia writes: "I just wanted to share this one with you. I was talking with an older lady, my neighbor, I asked the question on BV home remedie cures. She told me to douche with buttermilk and a little water. I just wanted to share that with you, I will try this one and get back with you on it."
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BV AND URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS
10/21/2010: Sotiredofit from New Milford, Connecticut writes: "Does anyone have a problem with recurrent uti's because of BV? I seem to have this prob. Wondering if anyone else does... I also suffer from recurrent yeast/bv. Thanks."
Replies11/08/2011: Angela from Brooksville, Fl replies: "I've had bv off/on for years, didn't realize what it was until last gyn visit. He didn't seem concerned about it, but I was!!! I've had 3 UTI's in the last year. Last bv treatment did vh essentials, worked too well and ended up with yeast infection as ph went too far the other way. Then back again after antibiotics for uti, ugh.. Bv now back again so doing the boric acid capsules (bought at publix and capsules at local health food store). I'll only do for a few days so I don't end up with a y/i again. Most likely will do after monthly as well."
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BV AND YEAST INFECTIONS
01/31/2010: Benny from Dania Beach, Florida, Us writes: "First off, Id like to thank everyone who responded to my first ques. I have been so desperate to get rid of both BV and a yeast infection, that I have tried just about every remedy posted lol. Not really sure whats working or what causes it as almost every day I add something new... I have a really important question though...CAN TAKING TOO MUCH ACIDOPHILLUS (oral capsules) ACTUALLY CAUSE A YEAST INFECTION OR BV????"
Replies03/06/2010: Marilyn from Harpers Ferry, Wv replies: "Hello there, I have been dealing with BV for almost a year, I found probiotic yogurt called Kefir that have live cultures on it. I can said that after 3 days the smell dissapear, no burn, no smell :) Now I made my own kefir with grains, you should tried. I also keep taking my 1800 mg of folic acid. Good luck"
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01/28/2010: Benny from Dania Beach, Florida, Us writes: "Question for treating both BV and Yeast Infection
Oh my God this is so frustrating...I have a Question concerning both BV and Yeast Infection combined! I am on my last day of the gel my gyn prescribed to me for BV now I have cottage cheese type discharge.. this would be a first for me unfortunately the BV isnt. Im assuming its a yeast infection so here goes the question DOES ANYONE HAVE SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO TREAT BOTH?"
Replies01/29/2010: Elizabeth from Nashville, Tn replies: "I know how you feel! I was suffering non-stop BV and YI's for almost a year before I found this site. After reading ALL the feedback I started testing the remedies. I douched with H202 and distilled water 50/50 mix. This worked pretty well but it left me a little irritated and I found I was having to do it more than I wanted to. It can be dangerous to douche too much. So then I tried tea tree oil capsules. I got an empty veggie capsule and filled it halfway with jojoba oil and added 1-2 drops of tea tree oil. It worked well for a couple of weeks but then I actually GOT a yeast infection (I guess b/c it killed too much of the good bacteria). Out of desperation I researched boric acid suppositories. I bought some boric acid online and filled the capsule. I inserted one capsule in the morning and one at night for 5 days when I had an active infection. It worked the first day! That was almost 2 months ago and I haven't had an infection since. I insert a boric acid capsule after sex (semen tends to put off my ph and cause infections). I use 2 capsules a week as a maintenance dose to keep the ph in check. I read you can do this up to one year. Also, I ingest oil of oregano, coconut oil and a good probiotic to keep my systemic candida in check. Hope this helps!"
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BV CAUSE THEORIES
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[QUESTION] 03/23/2010: So Upset! from Detroit, Michigan writes: "Hi ladies! I am so thankful to read all of these posts! I had BV several years ago and the DR. gave me a script (don't remember what it was - but it was pills). It went away and did not come back... until last month. I noticed a dicharge and odors - both sour and fishy. I went back to the Dr. and he gave me metrogel. It worked but now it's back again. I was hoping that it would just go away on it's own. I know it's not very good to keep taking antibiotics...it will just create a super strong strain of whatever is ailing you. Well it hasn't gone away. I made an appt with with Gyno again and I'm going in next week. I can't go sooner cuz I'm about to start my period. I actually have taken both folic acid & acidophilis before just never for this and it's been a while since I've taken either. I took two 400 mg of folic acid tonight and I'm going to go get the acidophilis again tomorrow. We'll see how that works. My biggest concern is the information out there suggesting that the only way to get this is by having new or multiple sex partners. I've been in a relationship with my boyfriend for more than 4 years. I've been faithful. I can't even think about sex with another man! As soon as I told him about this, he looked it up online and is convinced I cheated on him. Has anyone else gotten this without new or multiple partners?? It seems like there isn't really any rhyme or reason as to why women get this other than PH levels going haywire. I'm so confused and upset! Help!"
Replies03/24/2010: Angela from Mississippi, Usa replies: "I beg to differ with everyone, but i am a nun and celibate. i have had this myself. i hope that puts your boyfriends suspicions to rest. peace be with you"
05/03/2011: Sweetlady from Milwaukee, Wi replies: "I have suffered from BV for years. The reason why boric acid works is because it is a natural disinfectant/antiseptic. It chemically has a natural PH balance that when added in an unbalanced environment such as the warm, dark, PH unbalanced, area where BV flourishes it will lower the PH to a normal level that all the natural flora can begin to grow and literally eat up the bad bacterial. (I actually paid attention in chemistry class, and have researched this topic for about 17 years) however I am not a doctor but I know boric acid was actually capsules were given to me by a disease specialist to try. I had to tell my doctors about the treatment so they could help other patients that had the same problems. It also treats a yeast infection as well. However if you have any issues or think it's yeast or BV and are not in a monogamous relationship you should be getting STD tested every few mos. If you are in a monogamous relationship you should still be getting tested every year when getting your annual pap smear. And FYI not every doctor tests unless you ask to be tested for STDs at time of annual pap smear nor annually tests for BV. I always have them look for everything just in case. Always protect yourself and trust no one. But back to the treatment of BV and yeast infections with boric acid capsules. If you go to a Walgreen's that does compounding they will make them for you w/a prescription from my doctor. It costs about $35 bucks and is not covered by any insurance. Boric acid has not been sold over the counter in a pharmacy in years due to the harmful effects if ingested via mouth. Too many kids were getting into it in medicine cabinets. Try the suppositories for about 7-10 days up to 2 weeks. It helps and you will be so happy!!! Make sure you take 400-800mg of folic acid every day and I highly recommend Floragen as well. It's better and cheaper than RePhresh probiotics. Floragen sells for about $14.99 for 30 day supply and $21 99 for 90 day supply. It will also you keep your digestive tract healthy as well."
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[YEA] 03/20/2010: Alicia from Abq. Nm writes: "Way back in the mid '70s I had what I believe was BV. We didn't know about acidolpillus and they had just come out with a cream to insert for yeast infections but being BV that didn't work. I tried everything but the kitchen sink and finally I read in a book about spermicidal jelly killing EVERYTHING. So after 6 months of agony, I tried it and it worked! So if all else fails, you might give it a try. It's not "natural" but sometimes desperate times call for desperate measures."
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[QUESTION] 07/08/2009: Louise from Hartford, CT writes: "I have had BV a couple of times in the past, and have gone to the doctor, gotten treated with metro, and been fine. But being unemployed and uninsured, I wanted to find a cheaper way to treat this. I bought a homeopathic remedy for BF which was pretty expensive (about $25) and it DIDN'T work! Then I found this sight. I've only done the H2O2 douche/Acidophilus/B-Complex vitamin (incl Folic Acid) for one day and my problem is not yet resolved--will post again when a few days have passed just to update--but I'm wondering: Could a latex allergy cause BV? I had sex recently that involved condoms and toys (don't know if they were silicone or what), and I got it. I have responded unfavorably to latex in the past with very mild irritation and itching after inserting a diaphragm and after being examined with latex gloves. I've long suspected a latex intolerance...but could that be the cause of BV as well???"
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[YEA] 05/11/2009: Kelsey from Muskegon, Michigan writes: "LISTEN UP LADIES!! I wrote a yr or some ago about BV. I have tried everything.The Flagl the gel, the acidiphoulus( 10 billion) and folic acid. I have done much research about the ph level in the va jay jay, and have learned that even following everything like cotton underwear, no douching, no scented products, no tampons, use condoms and etc. I have done it all but it brings alittle relief but of course it comes back.
First OFF, I never really had a permanent gyno doc bc i move alot. So i was going into the clinics and this and that. Well After awhile i just stopped going and wasting my money. I know this can cause so much on us women.
LAST WEEK, i finally made an appt with a great gyno and after she looked at my medical records she was floored!! Floored because NO DOCTOR BEFORE has ever done a full universal culture. They just looked under the microscope or did a whiff test. SHE WAS SHOCKED. She being that i always have these infections, she did one for me. AND last week she called me with some pretty interesting news. I have something called GROUP B strep and candida overgrowth. Now Group B is usually more common in pregnant women so thats where it gets confusing, i have never had a child, or never have been pregnant. GROUP B is bacteria that grows in the small intestines and finds it way to the vagina, and sometimes sperm irrates it and can make it worse. SO i am taking a high dose of antifungal anitbiotic every 6 hrs and i also am using a very strong antifungal cream for down there. SO FAR ITS GOOD, i am still taking this medicine, and well keep everyone updated. SO i suggest ANYONE that keeps having infections, to make sure your docs are doing a FULL culture, it usually takes a few days to get the results, so if they tell you in the office that u have BV, maybe ask if they can do a full culture. I remember having infections soooo bad sometimes i would want to curl in a hole, I also seemed to be having Gas (lol) or belly aches alot. Now my gyno said that it should clear up after this because she found the direct source, but bc i have had this problem for so long it might take 2 doses. I am not saying anyone has what i have, but please make sure u have a full culture done. When they test for stds, its not a full culture, that only tests for those diseases. SO GOOD LUCK LADIES.. and please if any questions at all feel free to email me. CheerchicSC027@aol.com If you do email me please put BV as ur subject."
Replies05/28/2009: Jenna from Los Angeles, CA replies: "I'm dying to know....how did those antibiotics work for you after your culture? Are you cured still?"
11/26/2011: Sophe from Pdx, Oregon replies: "I was seen by a doctor seven days ago for nausea, fever and pressure in the abdomen, frequent urination but I had no odor, no pain and no discharge... she prescribed Cipro for the clinical impression of what she was seeing. Cipro is strong and has fluroide in it which is unhealthy! I also saw another dr that ran tests and the results were Strep B! My brother in law is Dr and he told me that Cipro just stop the growth but does not kill the Strep B. So the doctor that ran tests suggested Penicillin. But since I'm deathly allergic to Penicillin that was out so they just said " well we will just wait and see!"Well this is not an option for me since this is my health. I started taking Virgin coconut oil, collodial silver and Lysine was used together before penicillin. I take all of these every hour and drinking coconut milk and I'm hoping that this will cure me. I also have been taking a bath with apple cider vinegar every day since the onset of this and I have not gotten a yeast infection."
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[SIDE EFFECTS] 03/30/2009: Annie from New York, New York writes: "I am thankful for this website. I have been experiencing this issue for several months. I have been taking the chewable acidophilus pills (3-4 per day), folic acid (1 per day). I also take 1 chlorophyll tablet every day. It worked for a while, but after my monthly cycle, a mild form of the symptoms returned. It was not as bad as before, but a little itching and a very mild scent returned. I could not understand what the problem was. I began to backtrack to figure out what the cause of the issue was. I realized that I had switched brands of maxi pads several months ago. Prior to the change, I never had the problem. I used to use the brand that begins with the letter "S", but switched to the brand that begins with the letter "A". I think it is the gel strip that is in the center of the pad. I read on another website that this brand of maxi pads is known to cause infections. Since I have stopped using it, I have not had any problems so far. I am very surprised at how quickly the acidophilus tablets worked. Within 24 hours I experienced a change."
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[SIDE EFFECTS] 01/07/2009: Dee from Atlanta, Ga writes: "I was suddenly stricken with BV for almost a year since my husband and I stopped using condoms. I used this site and tried almost everything recommended- Acidophilus pills (orally and using a meat syringe to take vaginally), folic acid, mild soap, and peroxide. Nothing seemed to work. I went to the doctor on and off only to be prescribed medicine. He didn't know the cause either. After much research, I found that no one really knows the cause. I tried to find ways to elimate the problem. I ate yogurt, cut back on sweets, and made other small changes to determine the cause. It would mostly flare up after sex and go on and off until my period. It would disappear right before my period and come back about a week or two later. When I told my husband that I suspected that he was infecting me and that he needed to wash prior to sex he exclaimed that he always did. He then indicated that he always washed himself with some type of men's deoderant soap. He immediately stopped and began using a mild soap. Now I have been bv free for three weeks!!!! I have no discharge runny, greenish, etc. at all! I wanted to share this tip in case you ladies are too embarrased to ask your partner what he could be doing to contribute to the problem. It very well may be something as simple as the soap he uses to wash his genitals. Ask him to wash with a mild soap and see if that works. I hope this helps someone out there who is suffering like I once was."
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[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 09/06/2008: June from KC, KS writes: "Hi EarthClinic! I have been fighting BV off and on for the past 10 months. I believe I first developed it after drinking acv & baking soda. I believe it changed my ph levels. Ever since then I have been combatting this problem.
Today, however, in a natural rememdy book at the healthfood store where I went to buy folic acid I read that many women suffer from BV due to lack of progesterone. It seems that during a woman's normal cycle when progesterone is produced the uterus also produces h2o2 which cleans the uterus naturally. Therefore, no progesterone = no natural h2o2. This might explain why BV develops and why h2o2 inserted into the vagina helps so much with keeping the itching and burning at bay. The book said BV is a common occurrance at menopause. And anyone battling pcos or estrogen dominance knows they are not properly ovulating.
I've been using h2o2 quite regularly and while it helps it is not a cure, at least not for me. So, I'm trying folic acid again but this time at the 1600 mg dose recommended here by others. I sure hope it helps.
BTW, I DO NOT recommend h2o2 at the full 3% dosage suggested by others. It is too strong for the delicate skin of your nether regions! The best mix seems to be half h2o2 and half water (I use distilled). I use the bottle caps to measure portions. Two-four caps each in a container with a lid will last me several nights and mornings in a row. I use a longish eye dropper to disperse the liquid along with a washcloth to catch leakage. I clean the dropper after usage. It helps symptoms a great deal without damaging delicate skin.
I am also considering taking vitex (chaste berry) again as it is a form of progesterone.
Good luck ladies."
09/07/2008: June from KC, KS replies: "Just reporting back...after one day of taking folic acid my BV symptoms have greatly improved. No itching. No burning. Little to no discharge. (Odor has not been a problem.) I am taking two 800 mcg capsules, one at night and one in the morning-with food as directed on the bottle. I also take B50 which contains 400 mcg of folic acid, so total is 1200 mcg. I did not have this kind of positive reaction last time I took folic acid, so I'm guessing I was not taking enough. I am also using a different brand than last time. And I have quit eating sugar...again. I'm sure that helps, too. Thanks, ladies, for the suggestions!"
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BV TIPS
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03/09/2010: Bzzergrl2 from Houston, Ak writes: "Bacterial Vaginitis
I have read many of the posts discussing regimens different women have used; it's a bacteria affected by pH of the vagina. When the vagina has a higher pH the bacteria grows well. Blood, semen, soap all have a higher pH, and when the bacteria is exposed to these things they give off the typical amine odor that smells like fish. Any way the vagina can be kept a little more acidic will help. The pH table runs from 1-15. You don't want to be much less than 7, because too acidic will be irritating too. It's a balance that if found will help keep the flora and fauna protective to prevent overgrowth of one organism or another that creates the imbalance. Good Luck with this aggravating problem. Women have such complicated plumbing sometimes and it can be so annoying!"
Replies12/22/2011: Dee from Wixom, Michigan, United States replies: "When stating normal pH, it should be noted that there are a number of body systems that have their own preferred pH (and it can fluctuate between a more acidic level in the morning, versus slightly more alkaline at night). Normal vaginal pH is between 3. 8 and 4.5 (acidic). The pH level of 7 stated in this post refers to blood, interstitial fluids and urine. A vaginal pH above 5 certainly points to abnormal, indicative of disease or infection. Home pH testing kits intended for testing vaginal secretions (or one administered by an OBGYN) will confirm 3.8-4.5 as the healthy range."
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