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Posted by Steve (Ks, US) on 01/29/2015
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For my COPD, I put about twenty drops of 35% HP with my cpap water and it works great.

Also, my doctor told me to take 3 capsules of cayenne pepper plus apple cider vinegar. I have seen improvements.


Posted by Davegto (Michigan, US) on 11/17/2014
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I've used food grade h2o2 for copd and had some success- need to get more and try again-it is almost elusive to obtain!!

One compound pharmacy had to ask the boss if they could sell it as... they use h2o2 to make a lot of medicine! I got some from them-expensive-then contacted a BIG wholesale chemical company that gave me a pint or 2 for free as they sell it in 55 gallon drums-not too drastic for so much!

It does oxygenate and many diseases cannot live in an oxygen rich environment.

It may have some side effects that are not that nice- so watch out and I'd say (altho I am NOT a physician at all), use in moderation and probably not needed long term-continually. Experiment a little- see how you feel, I wager it will help in the right dose and over X amount of time depending on your condition

Good Luck!

On another note - if you do have any further knowledge of h2o2 effects on hemochromatosis PLEASE email me asap

Dave: gnomad56 (at) gmail [dot] com


Posted by Faye (Nc) on 05/28/2014
4 out of 5 stars

For my COPD, I use food grade Peroxide. It is 35% so it must be diluted. 1 drop of peroxide to 11 drops of water gives you about a 3% solution. Also, use purified water. I'm using 3 drops peroxide with 33 drops water in a nebulizer. I'm much better than I was. It's not a cure but it sure helps.


Posted by Richard (Ca - California) on 03/23/2014
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I have been using 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide for my copd and it has all but gone completely. I put 3 drops of hydrogen peroxide in a 8 oz glass of water and drink it three times a day adding one drop daily until reaching 25 drops and then staying on 25 drops for 5 days and then working back one drops less each day until I reach 3 drops daily for one week. and then check your status.


Posted by Greg (Bristol, UK) on 09/09/2012
3 out of 5 stars

I am trying to find out whether inhaled H202 (through a pump spray or nebulizer) mainly benefits COPD sufferers with mucous/phlegm problems or whether H202 delivers a generally beneficial effect. This is because I have moderate/serious COPD and have no apparent phlegm problems (at least I don't cough anything up) : I have been inhaling 3% H202 (reduced from 35% FG ) for some weeks with minimal effects.

Could people reply with a brief message saying if they inhale H202 with a pump spray or nebulizer, whether they have phlegm problems and the effect?


Posted by Billy (Lancaster, Ca) on 08/31/2011
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Hi, I emailed Bill about using hp and as yet have not received an answer from anyone, can you please tell me what kind of information he needs before he will reply?
I started taking 3% drug store hp and still using my copd meds ( advair & combivent inhailers) and the last two days I have been very shaky and had problem with nerves it only lasts a few hours but I am concerned should I stop using hp?
My husband started at same time I did and feels burning in chest. Please let us know what we should do. Thank you Billy

Replied by Mic
Cambridge, Cambs/ Uk
08/31/2011

Billy, please make sure your HP is food grade HP not just ordinary from a drugstore. Then start with a small amount, following the instructions that you will find on earth clinic. The treatment I found very effective.


Posted by Lynn (Brighton, Uk) on 07/12/2011
5 out of 5 stars

I have always been impressed with positive feedback from those who start out as non-believers. Here is an extract from an email I recently received from my father who is suffering from COPD. "Hi Lynn, I want to say a big thanks to you for putting me on to Hydrogen Peroxide. I'm sceptical about alternative medicine on the whole but I'm convinced of the benefits of this treatment. It is possible that some effects come from a lessening of grass pollen and the cleansing of the air by rain - but surely they are not responsible for the complete transformation experienced over the past week or so. I walked a Hawk's Brow circuit this morning - the first time since 27 May (and this was a walk usually done several times a week). I was going to say that there was no coughing as such - but in fact there was really none at all! I now feel optimistic about sticking around for a while yet..."

Replied by John
Johanesburg, Gauteng South Africa
09/22/2012

1920/30 hydrogen Peroxide was "discovered as a cure all and is one of the most incredible all round even cancer, tb, you name it, naturally the medical scallies had to stop it! They fabricated a 12 year old girl that was killed by using H202. Only recently has this "staged" death come to light. Is there a limit to the evil of greed? We have been singularly honoured by the inspirational public service of a man like TED. He has and does share with us a fantastic insight into natural cures and nature.

The above is my "Sincere thank you Ted"

The study of H202 would be most rewarding and there are books available on this versitile Natural gift to mankind, go for it, please


Posted by Tom (Otsego County, NY, USA) on 06/23/2011
5 out of 5 stars

Please don't ingest store-bought 3% H202; do read about 35% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide at Dr David G Williams website (google, "The Many Benefits of Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide," find the Williams entry, which offers instructions on its use.

I had TB in service (WW2), didn't know it, self-cured it (we're giants at 19) but was a shallow breather. In 1984 I was showed lung scars on my chest X-ray and finally knew why I had difficulty breathing.

Recently my breathing worsened, limited me to four hours sleep a night. Recalling that one sister died of IFP, one of emphysema, I looked at myself at 87.

Hoping for a longer life, I'd followed an FG H202 regimen for four years -- high dosages for a month, then 3 drops a day in spring water and no colds in that time. Now deep breathing was impossible, so I upped my FG H202 intake to 9 drops (3 X3) a day.

There was improvement. Hardly dramatic, yet I was grateful for it. Now I'm seeking a Homeopath who offers the IV H202 treatment. Dr Williams says it really works on emphysema-- we'll see about that.

The government calls me a death-panel candidate, but I call them names, too. And yes, my COPD worries don't compare to those of others in this forum, but I had to offer this FG H202 advice anyway. I ask you to help yourselves. Read on Dr Williams' website -- I found it as I found Earth Clinic. By happy chance.


Posted by Bharat (Faridabad, Haryana, India) on 04/29/2010
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My father is suffering from COPD (chronic bronchitis and chronic emphysema), he is 57 years old and weighs around 40 kg.He was told about it 6 years back in 2004 untill when he was a chain smoker and left it then only.His fev1 count is only 17%.

He used 35% food grade HP orally according to the given schedule but as soon as he reached 18 drops he felt some extreme symptoms like nausea, headache along with extreme weakness. His heart beat went high up-to 130 bpm and thus he just slacked off on it. He can barely walk and even find it difficult to eat food. I just wanted to ask what is the solution to such extreme symptoms because we don't want to quit so easily as there are not much options left after HP.

Another query i had in my mind was that can anyone tell me that among either oral and inhalation method which one shows better and quick results?

Replied by Alain
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
04/30/2010

Answer to Bharat from Faridabad

With H2O2 we have to go slowly. If 18 drops is too much because of detox effect, just reduce it to a comfortable level. Than increase only after a while. You don't have to go as fast as a chart. Those charts are just guidelines.

The max recommended concentration for internal use is 0.5%. But even 1/10 of it can help. There are also other ways, like Baths with H2O2 and Epsom salt, or Bill Munro's inhalation method. People react differently to different concentration. When too much just reduce.

I posted something here with a lot of info.

Good Luck, Alain

Replied by Bharat
Faridabad, Haryana, India
05/05/2010

Thank you Alain.I really appreciate your effort .

Can you please tell me if is it possible that food grade Hydrogen Peroxide when taken orally reduces the spo2 level in blood.I am asking this because for the past 3 -4 days we are noticing a quick decrease in spo2 levels of my father even when oxygen is been taken externally.

Can it be assumed as a possible side effect of hydrogen peroxide since his fev1 count is only 17%?

Replied by Alain
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
05/07/2010

Sorry, I cannot answer satisfactorily to your quesstion, because I am not at all familiar with the test you are talking about. But I did some quick searches and I have a few thoughts I would like to share with you.

First, you did not explained how the oxygen was taken externally. Was is peroxyde? And how? To get back to my previous post about dosages. Consider that 18 drops of FG h2o2 in a glass of water is not the same for a man of 40Kg as for a man of 80Kg or 120Kg. I suspect that your father is very weak and has digestion problems. So, maybe the 18 drops is even more demanding because of his weakness. H2O2 will create detox symptoms. So it is good to have something to improve the elimination of the liberated toxins. Those "toxins" are not from the h2o2 but from the body trying to get rid of them by being helped with the h2o2.

So, it might be better that food are any supplements be taken in smaller portions but more often. Something that might help greatly is the taking of pro-biotics on a daily basis. The more I read about pro-biotic bacteria for the colon the more I thing it is a vital element in helping in the recovery to any illness.

If you read EC pages on COPD and do a search on the web you will find that many have been helped by DMSO, and MSM. First, DMSO is very closed chemically to MSM. MSM can be obtained naturally from food. But can be easily destroyed by processing foods. MSM is better utilized by the body if taken with glucosamine sulfate and the chondroitin sulfate. MSM is a compound with sulfur as so are the two other sulfates. It has been shown that magnesium and magnesium sulfate can help asthma. Here we go again with a sulfate.

There is an easy and cheap way to get magnesium and sulfur in the form of sulfate. It is with Epsom salt (Magnesium sulfate). It is cheap and easy to buy in North America. I don't know about your part of the country. Two ways I know how to benefit from Epsom Salt (ES). Internally and from baths. Internally, a pinched of ES with meals or beverages. Coincidentally, a bath of ES can be enhanced and alkalizing with some h2o2. Here is a good link about such baths http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1614147#i

Magnesium will also help the liver and kidneys in digesting proteins.

So, IMO you should have a multi-facet approach. Improvement of digestion, improvement of nutrition. Smaller portion but more frequent. Supplementation of MSM and or magnesium sulfate. Alkalizing baths. So much can be said about alkalizing.

I could have put a lot more in the form of supporting links and text extracts that would better help what I said above. Health can be restored but it will take time. A simple advice-Stop doing what makes us sick and start what makes us healthy.

Good luck, Alain

Replied by Vicki
New Plymouth, Taranaki, New Zealand
05/07/2010

Answer To Bharat From Faridabad. Hi from New Zealand. My father, who is 84 and has had emphysema for over 20 years, has been using some drops that I got for him from a large online supplement supplier in America. I can't say the name of the product on this site, but if you Google "Natural Microdose DNA" you will find info about the product. Dad uses ONE drop FOUR times a day. It isn't very expensive to buy. I think it works by thinning the mucus. Dad has been using it for about six weeks, and it's the first of the MANY "natural" remedies that we've tried that's helped him. Unfortunately he's still using all his puffers at this stage,but the drops have made a huge difference in his comfort level. He is able to go for walks outside and do light chores around the house, which he hasn't been able to do for ages. A big difference is in how long it takes him to recover from breathless episodes. Now, he gets his breath back almost immediately, instead of spending five minutes gasping for air. He's really happy about that!! He has had a peak flow meter for several years now and it has always been around 160 to 170 maximum, but now it averages about 190 and several times has been over 200, which has never happened before. So, while this hasn't been the miracle cure that I have been looking for, it has made a BIG difference to Dad's quality of life, and,at the moment, he is progressing instead of getting worse. Hopefully after he has been using the drops for several months he'll have made further progress. The only negative comment I have to make about the product is that it"s really difficult to get the drops out of the bottle - I have to put it in another bottle for Dad to use. Later on I'm also going to get him some black elderberry (there's an interesting post on here about that), but for now we're seeing how much he improves by using the drops alone. Kind Regards, Vicki.


Posted by Dee (Dayton, Ohio) on 04/30/2009
3 out of 5 stars

Better But With Side Effects

i have copd & on 2 inhalers & one powered inhaler. first 2 every 6 hrs as needed ,the third 2 xs a day. was 49 when informed of this, am 54 now& this treatment is not working. have a couple air purifers in home to clean air but this really brings little comfort. my dr. says there is no cure for this but we can control it to some point. but i can"t seem to settle for this answer when i am finding it harder to breath sometimes the pressure in my chest so bad i am gaspping just to take a breath. feels like a heavy rock laying on my chest.

then i started to do reseach on h2o2 therapy. using 35%food grade hydrogen peroxide. dosage schedule for undiluted 35% h2o2 first day 3 drops, 3 times a day .. second day 4 drops, 3 times a day ... increasing each day by two drops until you get up to 25 drops, 3x per day x 25 drops= 75 drops.at your peak for 1 / 3 weeks ... then you start to reduce the dosage like 25 drops every other day, 4 times a week ...25 drops every third day for 2 weeks .... to 25 drops every 4 days for 3 weeks. DO NOT stop taking it if you feel sick until you complete the program because this sickness is due to the toxics in your body that are being destroyed by the h2o2..... boy i must be full of toxins cause i feel sick to my stomack but i really can inhale/ exhale much easier. i am trying to do this to the end but i can only get up to 25 drops 2 x s per day for 2 more days & i will start to back down. have i done this all wrong?


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Posted by Kevin (Nova Scotia) on 03/24/2016
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I had asthma since the late 80's...Mainly used Symbicort 200...

In regards to taking Hydrogen Peroxide, I made the bad mistake of using it from the 3% at my local drug store which contains bad solvents and used that for my Asthma in my nebulizer machine a few years ago...After a couple of weeks, I could hardly walk and have been on my machine and taking Steroids daily ever since...I have been on antibiotics several times in the last year and as soon as they wear off, I'm feeling bad again...I now think I have COPD...So don't use DRUG store stuff...Make sure it's food grade...I'm a 61 year old male in Canada, thanks.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
03/25/2016

HI U KEVIN,,,,,,,,,,, I don't think your problem is store bought 3 % H2O2 as our idol, Bill Munro used this for some 20+ years and died at age 89. However, he did not use a nebulizer. Most folks find that about 1 1/2% is all they can stand using a nebulizer. That is also my experience, after I used Bill's 3 % technique for several years.

Hope this sheds some light on your dilemma.

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Replied by Selena
Somewhere In Tx
10/31/2016

Regarding plain 'ol 3% hydrogen peroxide /chain store brands-simply read the labels and only purchase the brand that is only hydrogen peroxide and water with no additives.

Replied by Dianna
Oklahoma
07/16/2017

I have COPD and I have been reading about people nebulizing hydrogen peroxide. I have 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and I was wondering how to dilute it in order to nebulize it. Also how much would I nebulize at one time?

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn
07/19/2017

DIANNA,,,,,,,,, read the archives as this question has been answered a jullion times and folks are not going to respond.

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Posted by Fran (Nebraska) on 05/16/2015
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I have been trying the 2-1 method with hydrogen peroxide---3% and water in my nebulizer. Helps with my breathing so much. I use it whenever necessary. I want to know how often is too often?

Replied by Mama To Many
Tennessee
05/19/2015

Dear Fran,

Bill Munro used his hydrogen peroxide inhalation method for years with success. When we have used hydrogen peroxide in the nebulizer, we have used it "as needed, " but we were only using it for an acute cough.

I am wondering how many times a day are you using it currently?

~Mama to Many~

Replied by Freda
British Columbia, Canada
02/23/2016

Hi, I hope someone can answer my question on how inhaling Food grade hydrogen peroxide helps COPD. it is said that in cases of copd, the elastin fibres are compromised. Any information on this answer would greatly appreciated.. Thanks

Replied by Selena
Somewhere In Tx
10/31/2016

Hydrogen peroxide/ H2O2 releases oxygen and has properties to help clear up infections.


Posted by Gabbysue (Haltom City, Texas) on 02/14/2015
1 out of 5 stars

Warning

I have copd and I kept reading of h2o2 inhulation therapy. I started Bill Munro's regime, but not faithfully. One weekend I decided to go at it aggressively. I did the nasal spray in the throat, plus I added it to my nebulizer. A little works, so A LOT should really do it, right ? I did not measure it, I just added h202 straight. Did not help my breathing because I had loosened whatever is in my lungs, and blocked my air. My husband had to call 911. My O2 was in the 50's and I blacked out. Had to be on by-pap for 2 days.

I am not telling anyone not to do the inhulation, I am saying do not try to over do it for faster results!! I may even try it again, but follow the instructions that were so clearly given.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
02/14/2015

HI U GABBYSUE, , , , , , , , , , Hammer meet nail. Girl you right about this. 3 % is OK via mouth inhalation , but not with a nebulizer as we have learned. We cut the 3% H2O2 by half to avoid the burning.

With a Southern double name, you got to be of my generation. That just does not happen any more. Folks now all expect their younguns to be in the movies so they give them a Hollywood name to start with. Glad you have recovered and go slow as you indicated. Don't stop, just slow down.

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Replied by Yaya S.
Milwaukie, Oregon
06/01/2015

Wow GabbySue you're a wild woman. Definitely go slow and follow the instructions. Robert yes we younguns do!

Replied by Gabbysue
Haltom City, Texas
01/31/2016

I posted on 02/15 a warning about using h2o2 too aggressively for copd. I waited a year before trying it again. I used the Bill Munro method as well as in nebulizer. I nebulized about 3 mins about 3 times a day. I used nasal sprayer in throat about every 4 hours, 10 sprays. Three days later...Same as before. Oxygen level dropped rapidly. Albuterol in nebulizer did nothing. Blacked out before ambulance got here. Woke up 3 1/2 days later on a ventilator.

They tried for 3 days to get me to breath on my own. Needless to say it really put a scare in my family. I am 56 yr and smoked for over 30 yrs. I had such high hopes for the h2o2 use because I think I read ALL the testimonials. Of coarse when I first mentioned this to my pulmonary doctor he said "why would you want to put bleach in your body". I believed the folks on EC anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I did loosen up tar or whatever else smoking put on my lungs. I will still take advice as to what to do. I am happy for the ones it has helped.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile , Tn
01/31/2016

HI U GABBY, , , , , , , , , , , have counseled two smoker folks and yep they also coughed up black stuff and had bad thoughts about me. They both slowed down the process and got better. I can't tell you to start again, but I would encourage folks in deep stuff to do this very slowly. It took you a lifetime to get in this condition so don't rush it.

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Replied by Hlthybyntr
Good Ole Dixie
04/22/2016

Hey Gabby....... You did it again... you went right back and did the same thing by overdosing. Robert told you slow and easy. You took the max amount nebulized, the max amount of sprays in the shortest amount of time. Where did you read that you could max out both treatments? Baby, do one or the other. Cut your dose and in half, and extend your time between treatments, and love yourself! Dont harm yourself again. This is good stuff that works. It will work for you too!


Posted by Marigold (USA) on 02/24/2014
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H2O2 inhalation for COPD: I'm having good results with peroxide in my nebulizer. I have diluted food grade hydrogen peroxide (diluted to 3%) in a glass eyedropper. I put distilled water into another eyedropper. Two droppers of peroxide and three droppers of water seems to be the dosage that works for me. I had a bit of an irritation in my throat when I went a little stronger.

Twice I did a lot of deep breathing with the nebulizer and got a little light headed. Took me a while before I realized that I was just hyperventilating. So just do your regular breathing.

I find that if I haven't used it for several days, I'll have a bit of phlegm so I have to clear my throat a few times. My thinking is that it's loosening up the crud in my lungs and that's not a bad thing!

Thanks to EC and the people that take the time to post. It's all so helpful to read everyone's experiences.

Replied by Marigold
Usa
05/30/2014

Just an update - I'm still using h2o2 in my nebulizer. I now use 2 droppers of peroxide to 2 droppers of distilled water. I feel better than ever, starting to exercise. I don't use my prescribed Flovent Disk much at all because I hate the side effects. I still use my Ventolin HFA for emergencies.

This time of year, the humidity causes me real problems. I have a dehumidifier running and take cheapo, Dollar Store Allergy Relief ($6). Those two things plus the nebulized h2o2 have helped more than any of the high dollar prescriptions.

We do need to remember that all of this isn't a one size fits all. Some things work better for others.

Replied by Jamo
Nc
02/26/2015

May I suggest, when performing a breathing treatment, H2O2, CS, DMSO, whatever, exhale as deeply as possible, inhale as deeply as possible and hold up to 10 seconds. As we repeat the process, we begin to breath in deeper and deeper, getting our chosen solution to the bottom of our lungs. Normal breathing only goes down into our lungs about 20% - 30% of their capacity.

Replied by David
Az
10/28/2015

You say 2 droppers of peroxide, describe, 3% or 35% food grade


Posted by Paterin (Pensacola, Florida) on 02/03/2014
5 out of 5 stars

I want Bill Munroe to know that my COPD has responded amazingly to his H202 inhalation therapy. I'm not sure everyone inhales as they spray, but I do, and hold my breath awhile so it can really have plenty of time in there and I don't even count how often I do it. I keep 3 sprayers filled with 3% hydrogen peroxide from Walmart at all times. Nothing in this world could be easier with this most amazing result. I've used it for months now and will NEVER be without it. You're a lifesaver, Bill.

Replied by Yolanda
Illinois, US
10/31/2014

I also have been using the h2o2 in a spray that I spray in my throat about 5 times a day, about 6 sprays. I use the drugstore 3% as I am afraid to use the food grade. I bought some and it leaked out of the bottle and burned my fingers; that was enough to scare me even though I know it has to be diluted. The drug store one is fine and have been using it for over a year. I won't go on any inhalers; they don't cure anything and as far as relieving symptoms who needs that. The symptoms are there to tell you something is wrong. I also spray colloidal through an inhaler. By inhaler I mean the one you buy at the drugstore using the Bill Murey method. I use that 3 times a day. It has really helped. I also use 6 drops of p73 Oregano oil to boost immune system. I use that for about 2 weeks and then go off for at least two weeks. I bought the book "How I reversed My Mom's COPD" It helped a lot to see how the medicine from the pharmaceuticals are making you worse and adding to the problem. If you look up what virus causes COPD coxsackie virus was one of them. I probably have that spelled wrong.

The best to all of you, love the site. Yolanda

Replied by Kennywally
Midwest
12/11/2015
51 posts

Bill,

I don't want to be an alarmist, but as I understand it, there are metal particles [ so-called stabilizers ] in the store bought HP.

I'm glad you are having success, but I'm concerned there could be an up coming unexpected issued from the particles. I'd just dilute FGHP with pure clean water, and reduce the FGHP down to 3% or even half of that, whatever level works best for you. Best wishes.



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