MMS
Hello Mary,
I have no personal experience with using MMS for shingles (Herpes Zoster), but shingles is caused by a virus and MMS is said to kill out bacteria, viruses, molds, fungi, and others.
My thinking is that if MMS can kill out the genetically engineered virus (HIV+) causing AIDS, it should find killing out an unaltered virus like Herpes Zoster. it would certainly be worth the trial since current thinking is that Herpes Zoster is the same virus that caused chicken pox in youth, just sitting there in your nerve endings all those years to create havoc with shingles. If MMS kills the virus, you shouldn't get shingles again unless you are re-exposed to it.
(La, Ca)
12/05/2009
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WARNING!
I would be careful of MMS. I am not a doctor but I have an extensive chemistry background. The problem I have with MMS is the CL atom. Yes chlorine. The science of ionization of the 2 oxygen molecules in MMS is the same as the chemistry of Hydrogen peroxide. So I would try peroxide therapy before MMS. Look at the results of peroxide and they should be the same as expected with MMS.
(Ten Mile, Tn Usa)
12/06/2009
JOE, I'd like to expand this discussion about Chlorine and its effects. In the paper industry I spent 40 years in many mills through out the South bleaching pulp from brown to various degrees of white.
First, chlorine is an element and MMS is primarily chlorine dioxide, a compound. They are not the same and do not react the same. Other chlorine compounds used to bleach pulp are Sodium Hypochlorite and Calcium hypochlorite ( Clorox ). These are chlorine compounds that also react differently. The temperature, time and pH of the reactions control how drastically they take place. Other chemicals used to bleach pulp are Hydrogen Peroxide and Oxygen, which do not contain chlorine but both do contain oxygen. They too react differently from each other and from chlorine compounds.
All these chemicals are talked about on this site everyday, and they are used in our body's to obtain a certain reaction. We can not control our body's temperature but can influence our pH. In bleaching pulp, the lower the pH the more drastic the reaction and I think you can say that about your body. Not all our body's have the same pH, thus each person will react differently. Our temperatures are about the same so that is not a factor.
After saying all this, I think I can draw the conclusion that chemical reactions in your body are milder if your body is in an alkaline pH range as Ted keeps harping on. Apple Cider Vinegar is malic acid and baking soda is alkaline. Combining the two gets you close to neutral. I personally think that getting your body out of the acid pH range is the most effective you can do to improve your health. It changes your reactions to various nutrients you consume and how the bacteria in your bowels function. And no, I did not do a double blind study before I said this.
One last comment, Cloudy ACV is malic acid with all the enzymes and original trace compounds . Clear super market ACV is distilled malic acid and is not the same. White Vinegar is acetic acid, a completely different animal.
Sorry if I sound preachy but that's the way you are when you get old.
(Ten Mile, Tn Usa)
12/06/2009
JOE, as the little boy told the little girl when she told him she was pregnant........... EXCUSE ME.
I did not address directly your post in my first reply.
Our Chelation Doctor tells me that the way your white corpuscles attack foreign invaders is to produce Hydrogen
Peroxide naturally.
So I think you gave the poster good advice. Do Hydrogen Peroxide before you do Chlorine Dioxide.
We do hydrogen peroxide intravenously to build up our immune system in-lieu of the mercury contained flu shots.
Monolaurin
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So far it has kept my outbreaks 100% at bay as long as I'm consistent about taking it and don't miss any doses. I take 2 to 3 scoops a day along with a high quality multi vitamin. Another person I saw posted not to drink hot liquids with it. I can testify to that. I took it with some hot coffee and it made me really nauseous. Before taking it, I would get outbreaks at least every couple of months. But when taking the Lauricidin consistently, I get have any. It works great. I've also noticed more energy, and my candidate symptoms have started to disappear. My digestion seems to be way better, too.
Monolaurin
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(Cleveland, OH)
05/03/2023
Yes, lauricidin worked great for me, too. But just plain monolaurin did nothing for me. Only lauricidin made a difference for me, too. No outbreaks when I'm taking it and I used to get them regularly.
Monolaurin
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EC: OB = Outbreak
Monolaurin, L-Lysine
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(Fayetteville, Nc)
10/05/2017
Ok, so now it's been 10 months with only monolaurin and L-Lysine and I've only had one OB. That was because I grew too comfortable and wasn't taking them daily as I should have. Let me just say, that the OB wasn't terribly uncomfortable and I only had one mild lesion. After three days of doubling my regiment, the lesion was gone. I highly recommend that you research the results of monolaurin on herpes. They are outstanding.
Multiple Remedies
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I tried many remedies, but recently I decided to use a multi-pronged approach to the problem. Every time I would have an outbreak, I took massive doses of vitamin C, including a lypospheric vitamin C that gets into the system very quickly (expensive, but worth it) and plenty of plain old ascorbic acid spaced throughout the day. I also took a pricey beta glucan supplement (1 or 2 doses per day on empty stomach), olive leaf extract (2 doses per day), egg yolk lecithin (1 dose per day), lauricidin (potent form of lauric acid - 2 to 3 doses per day), oil of oregano capsules (2 doses per day) and red marine algae (2 doses per day). I would also stay home and mix up some liquid oil of oregano with some good quality castor oil and put this all over my pubic area and leave it on. Even though taking all these things didn't immediately stop outbreaks, I could tell that the virus was getting weaker and weaker. You can't really attack the virus itself very effectively until it shows itself with symptoms and attempts to replicate. I think the real kicker was when I ordered some very potent oil of oregano that comes from Greece. Ever since my last round of using all the anti-virals, plus diluting the Grecian oregano oil with castor oil and putting it on the pubic area for a day or two in a row, I have been outbreak free. I also tested the waters by eating lots of peanut butter, chocolate, coconut (coconut flesh, not oil, is high in arginine), drinking alcohol, coffee, red wine, basically any and everything that could possibly trigger an outbreak - and nary a tingle! All you that are suffering out there and feeling hopeless - I tell you - it is possible to overcome this virus!!!! Don't give up. Any of the products I mentioned here can be purchased from Amazon.
The Greek oil of oregano takes time (about 6 or 8 weeks) to get to the states, but it is cheap. The beta glucan is about 75 a bottle, but I haven't even had to use a whole bottle of it yet. The lypospheric vitamin C is 30 a box for 30 packets. The other supplements are more moderate in price, I think. And plain old drugstore vitamin C is not expensive. Just be persistent and consistent. You can overcome this. Take as much vitamin C in ascorbic acid form as your system can tolerate. And pay attention to the directions for taking any of these supplements - some MUST be taken on an empty stomach in order to work properly (lypospheric vitamin C and beta glucan, for example) and some work better when taken with food. The lecithin and the lauricidin are excellent for lipid coated viruses - helps destroy that lipid barrier and then the other supplements can go to town on the virus.
(United States)
02/04/2020
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The castor oil is there to dilute the oregano oil, so I would say I used 4 or 5 drops of the oregano oil to a tablespoon and a half of castor oil. Test this on an area of skin first to make sure you're not allergic or having a bad reaction to anything. Oregano oil – the real stuff – the strong stuff – can burn your skin if you don't dilute it with another carrier oil. I chose castor oil because it has its own healing properties, plus it is is viscous enough to stay on the skin for a long time. ( Additional note to my above post: I also took high doses ( 3000 mg. a day of lysine – which is preferably taken on an empty stomach.) I sincerely hope this information helps people!
(USA)
02/05/2022
(Canada-Vancouver)
02/06/2022
From:
https://www.urologyofva.net/articles/category/healthy-living/3740469/11/13/2019/the-damaging-effects-of-oxalates-on-the-human-body
Vitamin C in ascorbic acid turns into oxalates crystals that damage the kidneys.
Renal Failure
Over time, oxalates can damage the kidney enough to cause renal failure. The kidney is the main organ focused on excretion, and the stress and inflammation from oxalates can overwhelm it. Patients with kidney stones have been shown to have decreased mitochondrial function in their white blood cells.
Inflammation
When oxalates are deposited into your organ tissues, they trigger inflammation. Specifically the NLPR-3 inflammasome .NLPR-3 has been implicated in numerous chronic diseases, including cancer .AutismThis study found that patients with Autism had 3x the levels of oxalates in their blood than normal individuals.
Skin and Eye Issues
High circulating oxalate levels leads to deposits in numerous organs throughout the body. Two of the most common are the skin and eyes .Oxalates are abrasive causing skin and eye issues when deposited there.
(UK)
08/07/2022
Hi Ellanor, thank you for sharing this information, it's such a big help.
Could you tell me, did you take all the supplements only when you had an outbreak? or regularly everyday for a while?
Do you think I should attack it only when it's out breaking?
Could you also share if you maintained a special diet during these times?
Thank you!!
Sara
Multiple Remedies
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Made a turmeric, chicken and vegetable soup which is all I ate for the next three days and made up a small mixture of manuka honey, turmeric and vitamin c paste which I then slathered on to my entire vagina, I used a sanitary pad to stop the honey leakage and put on black pants (this stuff stains), laid a towel down and put myself to bed for the day while I ate bowls of turmeric, chicken and vegetable soup.
My soreness was completely gone by morning and by the next day I couldn't even tell I'd had an outbreak.
I was amazed. I've suffered for 10+ years, every outbreak lasting 7-12 days.
And now, thanks to my tireless research and trials, I have put together ingredients that cleared my outbreak within 24 hours.
I hope this helps someone.
Multiple Remedies
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Anyway.....I was put on Valtrex immediately upon my diagnosis. They always say your first outbreak is your worst....well the one I'm currently on is a close second. We both have had small outbreaks over the last year we've been together; we thought that one was free and outbreak free, passed it on to the other. It's been a pretty crappy cycle. I stopped taking the Valtrex (and it's generic) for not only how ungodly expensive it is, but because the side effects are terrible. I know that I will be one of the people that will say we both don't want to be on a pill for the rest of our lives.
I have tried coconut oil to the affected areas, no luck. I have tried rubbing alcohol (holy hell the burning was terrible), and peroxide. I have also tried Lysine (not since I've been diagnosed with GH). I plan on trying the Lysine and Bach remedies for sure.
I have changed my diet, I get daily exercise, and I try to stay away from as many sick people as possible. Having GH means that we ALL have an auto - immune disorder, we stay sicker longer and when when we're sick....we get outbreaks. I have also noticed that simply changing your body wash, is also a huge difference too. I used to use body wash; but after having back to back outbreaks, I have been using Dial antibacterial bar soap during my showers. And that alone has helped my outbreaks. Females have more outbreaks than males. So we have to kill as much bacteria down there as possible.
I also have psoriasis, which is genetic and another autoimmune disorder. Many women suffer from endometriosis, and if you're one of those unlucky women like me...nothing has worked. I have noticed that when my hormones are off, I have an outbreak. This last one was because of my Lupron shot, I'm having a forced menopause at 26 because my "monthly visitor" has became so excruciating painful...that I'm on a shot to kill the cells in my ovaries.
Since I have been on this last outbreak for the past 2 almost 3 weeks, I am using witch hazel. Specifically the Tuck's (or walmart brand) Hemorrhoidal Pads when I go to the bathroom. The witch hazel has helped shrink the lesions, and will eventually dry up. Since I have been using the wipe pads the last 4 days, I can now use the ladies room in peace! No burning or itching! The last 4 days, I have noticed less itching, hardly any burning or itching, and the sores are going away. The pads have witch hazel, and a hemmroidal astringent in it. So there is some type of cooling sensation, and some numbing. I'm not saying it's a cure, but witch hazel does help with the sores and bathroom usage. I got the equate pads at walmart. 200 pads for $7.
After reading some of the awesome suggestions on here, I plan on trying the Bach Flower remedy soon for the both of us.
Also, you can spread it from your genitals to your butt crack (and sometimes inside) if you use the same wipe, piece of toilet paper, etc. Be careful with your hand washing and cuts. Herpes isn't just a virus, it's in your bloodstream. Don't share toothbrushes, razors, shower loofahs, towels.
Hope this all helps!
(Columbus, OH)
01/20/2024
Karen in MI, Herpes is not in the blood, that's why we can donate blood. It's a viral disease in the nerves and lives within cells of our spinal nervous system. You acquired it thru the friction of nerves to nerves while rubbing skin with an infected partner. When trying something new to find relief from HSV, please get a fresh IgG test before starting and after so as to measure your immune system's antigens response. There are affordable online sources in lieu of your Doctor that will place the blood draw order to your local Lab and then privately email you the results the next day. No appointment needed, No Doctors fees, you pay directly.
Multiple Remedies
(Ohio, US)
04/06/2015
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19653195
Tea tree oil diluted with olive oil and applied to sores should work well. I bought from Trader Joe's a body wash with Tea Tree and eucalyptus to kill any shedding the virus may do while dormant. I also take Lysine daily and have maybe one break out a year.
All the best to you :)
Multiple Remedies
I use: The herbs that belong to the "onion" family twice daily(look at my previous post about two people who are herpes free after using it and changing their diet). I boil and strain or u can drink as is.
Spirulina powder twice daily, sometimes a little more.
fresh lemon in water to remove toxins and raise ph
Lots of cinnamon drink I make every few days.
I use to buy pure echinacea root(dried) from health food store, but after severe breakout of hives I stopped using and is trying to get rid of dark spots. I drank too much. When I drank a little it never bothered me. I would still recommend, but do not drink too much. $7 an oz at health food store in bklyn.
I eat lots of flounder which can stop a break out really fast or prevent OB. I have proof of that. Read about it in book.
To prepare fish: do not season to cook. When finished add seasonings if u prefer. Loaded with lysine. The internet said catfish, cod and tilapia too, but I stick to flounder since it worked for someone. I use other fish if I can't afford flounder. Other times, I season it, but I make sure to haveit the way he recommended a few times a wk. Change your diet. I am not using any meds. My last major OB was christmas of 2011, prior to using all of the above and changing diet. Avoid processed foods. Read my other post. I use abreva daily on mouth and around so I do not get OB. Once in a while a little pimple around mouth, but it never gets bigger and never pop. U will think it is a regular pimple. That fish works! Will get retested to see where I am.
Multiple Remedies
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I got herpes since 2 years ago. My wife gave it to me... She doesn't know that she had it... Last year after blood test, they found I had Genital Herpes 1 & 2...
I don't want to take the Dr medicine, I prefer to use plants. On the begining, I had Breakout maybe every 3 month, since last summer, it's almost every month. and now, I get another one after 2 weeks!!! F......
In general, after 6/8 days, everything is gone. That doesn't hitch, that doesn't hurt. What I use its Apple cider vinegar. It's better than nothing. Also I do echinacea Tincture, it's good for your immune system. I order Olive leaves, but they are dry, so I don't know if the property is the same...
Last week I found that the Sumac Extract was apparently use to cure herpes.
http://pubget.com/paper/19746844
I give you that link but I can't found the original one...
Also I know I'm kind of Stress, so I'm sure that doesn't help! And since I'm in US, my alimentations not very healthy, but I try my best...
What I was thinking, it's to do a cure for blood cleansing. I mean, I do my own treatment for 3/4 month. I'm doing spiritual practice and healing, and I'm sure if you heal your body and your mind ( soul) on the same time, you can have some wonderful result. But it's a lot of work... But 4 month in our life, it's nothing, right?
On a begining I wanted to go to amazonia with a shaman for starting the process, but first I think I'll try to do by myself. After some research I found that we need to avoid :
· Salt
· Sugar
· Oil, no fat
· Alcohol
· Pork meat
· Milk products
· Meat except chicken and some fish
· Acid or sweet fruit (you can eat bananas and apples)
· Spices
· Vinegar
· Cold water or ice
· Strong sun
· Sexual activity
Also need to practice sport activity, yoga, meditation, etc etc.
Use plants as tea, salad, capsules, You can take bath, with herbs inside, like a big tea and you let yourself inside for awhile.... I use to take bath with 1 cup of ACV, 1 TSP of baking soda, 1 big tsb of epsom Salt and some florida water, its good for your skin and also for spiritual cleansing. Or, the best is to make the same mix in a big bowl and after your shower, you put on yourself the mix, and you let it dry, don't use the towel! It's good to do it the summer time! Don't need to wait too long!
If some of you tried the diet for 3 or 4 month, I would like to hear about the result. And when I'll finish mine, I'll let you know.
I would like to ask you a question about how come did we get it? Do you think things happen for a reason? I mean not just cause we [had sex] with no condom or thing like this but more like a lesson, something to learn... What do you think?
Thank you so much for read my post and sorry if my english is not perfect.
I wish you all good thing for this new year and lot of good energy healing for fight against that s......
Peace
Multiple Remedies
Here are the things which have helped to me on my way to being GH OB-free.
- I had no idea that artificial sweeteners were such a trigger. I was consuming so MUCH in an effort ot be healthier, ha! so I eliminated those right away and it made a HUGE difference. after a certain period of time I tried to reintroduce non-aspartame sweetners and found that *only* natural based sweetners are safe for me (like stevia).
- I started taking l-lysine, 1000 mgs 2-3 times per day. (I think this also helped keep me from contracting this terrible cold and flu virus that has had everyone around me on their backs for a week plus at a time! )
- ACV, HP, and/or tea tree oil used topically when the outbreak starts helps dry it out quickly.
- I stopped using the acycolvir my doc prescribed when I felt an outbreak coming on because all these natural remedies work BETTER AND FASTER for me.
Seriously, I cannot thank everyone enough. I hope anyone else who comes in search of information here has as much positive experience as I have. You all are awesome and generous. Thank you thank you thank you!
Multiple Remedies
(Ny)
11/11/2012
(Asuncion, Paraguay)
11/11/2012
Please, READ MY POST: Buy "Ravensara essential oil" and "Tamanu oil". Make sure its RAVENSARA not Ravintsara!
Mix it 50/50. Apply it twice a day to the affected area. It does NOT hurt. After one day, the lesions look much fainter.
It takes 3 days to clear the lesions completely. After two more outbreaks, every other month, I did it the same way, my outbreaks stopped. This was 2 years ago.
Try it, don't waste your time with other stuff, because I tried it all. Yust do it!
P.S. Try to avoid re-infection by treating your partner with the same mixture.
Multiple Remedies
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These things did not fully fix the outbreak, I think because it had gone on too long, but after 48 hours, I was 50-60% better, the first relief I had in 3. 5 weeks... I was thrilled. After the doctor called, I did get acyclovir, which has finished the job. I don't plan to have to use it again, though.
So I was doing a lot of stuff, but what really made the difference was:
1 tbsp organic virgin coconut oil 3x a day - antiviral
1500mg lysine 3x a day - higher ratio of lysine to arginine prevents virus from replicating.. I used Super Lysine , has some echinacea and garlic as well
1000mg vitamin c 3x a day
1500mg olive leaf extract mixed in water 3x a day
These things 3 times a day and you will be in business. I also put coconut oil on my business after using the bathroom. I am a big believer in having a double or triple threat approach so I can't say with certainty which thing mattered most, but I will say this... After a day, I could tell a HUGE difference. I am almost out of the woods finally!!! This stuff works, and I imagine that if you caught it earlier, would completely knock it out. So to all who are in misery, I feel ya and keep your head up! So quit reading and go to the vitamin store!
Multiple Remedies
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Tried the ACV - works with shingles also. Drank it before bed and in morning.
Symptoms (itchyness, pain)abated after applying it topically to sores. Stings on open ones but the pain stops after a moment. I usually get IVC, 30 grams every two weeks as I have continous shingles as well as Herpes( on lower back). This boosts immune system and cures the sores within two days.(I sometimes cant go so the ACV is good to have around.)
I take multiple supplements( too many to list), lysine, zinc, a herbal antiviral mixture and daily 2x, Hydrogen peroxide, food grade, 3% diluted to 25%, about 12 drops.
There is multiple reports on the web on the effectiveness of BHT for Herpes 2. I cannot get it in Australia, so have not tried it yet. Apparently, it dissolves the lipid coat of the virus , that hides it from the Destroyer cells of your body.Then , it can be attacked and killed.
Dirk Pearson says in his book that he has taken it since the 70's and has no attacks, except when he once stopped using it. His partner has never had a attack.
BHT in VERY large doses, is bad for the liver, but the usual dose is too small to do any harm. (DP has not had any toxicity problems long term). It is to be avoided if you have liver problems.)
I hope someone tries this, I cant wait to go to USA and get some!! Hope you all get better :)
Love, KB
