Genital Herpes
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Effective Natural Treatments for Genital Herpes Relief

| Modified on Apr 10, 2024
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Nomoreherpes (Atlanta, Ga) on 06/05/2013

Hello, I was soooo happy with my results, I just had to tell someone!!! I was diagnosed with Herpes in November 2012, and after using Hydrogen Peroxide for about a month I was retested and it was gone!!!! According to the test the value has to be below 0.90 to be negative, and my original value was 41.3, and now it's less than 0. 90 and stating negative results!!!

I've actually worked for a pharmaceutical company before and never trusted the drugs because I got to see what was actually in them. It's really sad you can't depend on the medical community to help heal the sick, but they are all about $. I plan to spread the word as much as possible.

The way I used hydrogen peroxide was made a 3% solution from a 35% solution (1 1/3 cups to a gallon of distilled water) I'm a chemist so it was easy for me to do the conversions then I measured it using cups to make it easier for everyone.

Then I inhaled it about twice a day using the over the counter Automizer using hydrogen peroxide instead of the meds the atomizer comes with.

Oregano Oil
Posted by Leyla (Columbia Falls, Mt) on 12/27/2011

Just wanted to share my success story with oregano oil to give others hope as it really is key in fighting off this nasty problem. Mind you, the post will be a bit long.

I hooked up with my ex-boyfriend of one and a half years before he moved away for school. One night. Bad idea. I had of course imagined he had been seeing other people since we weren't together, but I never, EVER expected to contract STIs from him. He left me with both genital herpes and genital warts.

Now I also have had gastroinestinal problems since the age of 13, and it has left my immune system in horrible condition. I cannot stress how bad my outbreaks were. Every single one lasted for a minimum of three and a half weeks. I'd be clear for 3-4 days, then it would return again. Each outbreak was just as bad--if not worse--than the last. There would always be a period where the pain and itching was so severe that I was unable to walk. The warts were equally bad, and anytime I had them removed, they'd be back within a single week of the skin healing over. This went on for about 10 months, and it was definitely the worst period of my life. The emotional suffering is really the worst part of it all.

From my very first herpes rash I had begun taking mass amounts of supplements. Olive leaf extract, bitter melon, andrographis, echinacea, astralagus, ginger, Lysine, red marine algae, monolaurin, coconut oil... You name it, I've tried it. Even acupuncture and chinese herbs. It didn't seem to do much of anything. Applying tea tree oil, propolis, or melissa oil on the rash burned like hell, and would help with the pain and itching temporarily but the outbreaks were still just as long. One particular outbreak, I remember not taking anything, just to see what would happen. The rash persisted for nearly 7 weeks. Sorry for rambling but I really want to emphasize how bad my condition was.

I hadn't tried the oregano oil, as it was pretty expensive. I read that it tasted bad and I'm a total wimp. Can't even take cough medidcine I'm so sensitive to taste. On top of that, I believed my doctor when he told me there was no cure so I thought the whole Cure in a Cupboard thing was just a scam. One day I just decided why not give it a try, I've already thrown thousands down the drain in supplements so another couple hundred won't hurt.

Orderd super strength in a small bottle. Begun with the protocol, which was 5 drops under the tongue twice daily. At first, I had to do it in 1 or 2 drops at a time. My eyes would water and my mouth would start salivating like crazy from the burn, but it was by no means unbearable. Hold it under the tongue for as long as you can then wash it down with water. Over time, I increased my dosage. I had no bad side effects, but I believe that was due to me taking the olive leaf extract everyday. I got INSANE die-off reaction the first time I took that stuff, I was shaking with chills and fever and vomitting for 3 days with OLE.

As a side note, I read somewhere that a small bottle lasts you a long time. It barely lasted 2 weeks for me! Buy the bigger one if you're going to try it. I started upping it to 5 drops under the tongue 3 times a day within about 2 weeks. After a month, 4 times a day. Usually 8-10 drops. Experts can't seem to agree on a safe dosage for this stuff so just work your way up slowly. For the first 2 months of taking it, I noticed no improvement in my state. I got discouraged, but I remembered reading that it takes 1-3 months to heal so I stuck to it.

Just past the 2 month point, I suffered from the worst outbreak I have ever had. It covered a massive area, my genitals and it even went down a bit into my anal area. It was bright red. I remember crying myself to sleep one night the pain was so severe. But something surprising happened. It cleared up in about 8 days. That was the shortest outbreak I have ever had, and it was also my last.

That was 2 months ago, and to this day, I still have not had another outbreak. Oregano oil has been a miracle worker for me. I know a lot of people are going to question it being healed without a DNA test. I've gotten a few done in the first stages of my infection, and even though I was 100% positive I had genital herpes my tests would come back negative. (Both blood test and a swab of a lesion) So doctor's tests aren't as reliable as you may think.

I don't need a test to tell me I'm cured, I know I am. I continued to take the oregano oil for a full 4 months. Not one day did I miss a dosage, as I was completely determined to rid myself of this virus. My advice to you is to try it. And take it in LIQUID under the tongue if you want results!!! Best way to get it absorbed into your bloodstream. I'm no doctor, just an average 21 year old girl that suffered from the same problem as everyone else on this board. If it worked for me, I'm sure it can work for someone else. I wish good health and best of luck to all of you.

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Gridkeeper (Dc) on 07/13/2020

I had HSV-2 since 2015, I experienced the lowest lows of my entire life. I was hopeless, lost my joy, and really wasn't happy at all. I tried all manner of treatments over the course of years, and eventually to tried 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide.

I read various forums and found some people that had used it reported favorable results, some that even claimed that it cured them, and some reported that they didn't get good results. I figured that if it worked for some people it was worth a try for me. It seems to affect everyone a little differently.

HSV seems like a difficult virus to beat as it's quite resilient, so I hit it hard with the 35% hydrogen peroxide and eventually worked up to 25 drops 3x daily for 6 months in distilled water. I tried to eat as healthy as possible during this time, even eating a raw diet for about 3 months. After the 6 months of 25 drops a day 3x daily, I continued on lower maintenance doses for another 3 months. I wasn't super disciplined about the keeping the dose consistent, it was roughly 5-10 drops 3x daily, eventually tapering down to zero.

Since then, March 1, 2020, I have taken no medication or even supplements. I haven't had any breakouts, and I drink coffee all day, beer, and sometimes eat all kinds of junk food. I've had pizza, fries, you name it. I haven't gotten retested, but I haven;t had any issues for months now, so I'm going to see if it continues. I feel like it worked, because I had tons of issues previously.

I've come to believe that there are many suppressed cures/treatments. Other than 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide that worked for me, there is the also the Bob Beck blood electrocution therapy, MMS/sodium chloride, which is a lot stronger than 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide, intravenous ozone, vitamin B17, Laetrile, and others.

I wouldn't recommend the particular protocol that I used unless you research 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide first because it's a bit extreme. Please do your own research about safe protocols. I was at such a low point in my life that it was worth it to me to risk possible side effects if I could possibly be cured.

For the record I didn't experience any side effects except for minor discomfort from taking 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide on an empty stomach, and a little scratchiness in my throat. This protocol is hard to do at first, but then becomes routine, and for me it was well worth it and a hug blessing. My life was a living hell and now it's normal again. I thank God that I found out about 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide and suppressed cures.

Please feel free to ask me questions. I hope that you all succeed in your journey to beat this as I did.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Mermaid Cure (California, US) on 09/03/2014

I'm so grateful to have found this website!!!! Truly has given me new light and hope for my ailments!!! So THANK YOU TED! You have a heaven-sent spirit for doing this!!!!!

Great News!!! APPLE CIDER VINEGAR and APPLE CIDER VINEGAR TABLETS works. I've successfully prevented break-outs.

I've been a GH (genital herpes) sufferer since 1984 and am now 54-, goin' on 34', for sure... lol, and am very happy on coming to terms with the cards I have been dealt. So if you or ANYONE thinks it's the end, I promise you it is NOT. Of course, it was devastating to me when I found out, especially since I was vacationing in New Zealand at the time and had just read an article in the local newspaper that Genital Herpes had not been reported in their country at that time and so, yay! ... what great news that was...haha...

I contracted it from a guy there a week later, who knew what he was doing. So, don't believe what you read in the news ever, about anything, from what I have learned they can be terribly inaccurate!!! . So, yes, it's been a major nuisance in my life, but have went on to have had beautiful loving, healthy and sexual relationships. I feel it is my altruistic responsibility to inform them about my annoying situation before we are intimate so that they have the option to make an informed decision. They usually say, is that it? They know that there are MANY and MUCH worse 'issues' and problems in life that could or could have happened. If they really care about you and they are worth having a relationship won't make a difference.

After finding this site a few years ago, I immediately bought the organic ACV and lots of Coconut Oil for my medicine cabinet and kitchen and make-up drawer. The best thing I found was the APPLE CIDER VINEGAR TABLETS! You don't have to taste the vinegar, just take one tablet right when you first feel the slightest tingle. I have successfully staved off several outbreaks by catching it in time and am thinking I should just take one every day. They're not expensive and you find them at any health food store or vitamin shop.

So, I'm pretty sure GH prevails in epidemic proportions. At least HALF of my girlfriends have or have had it! That I happen to know of! I've just been super compelled to share this vital remedy for our condition and am feeling pretty good about it because I know it can help all of you who will find this. I wish I would would have found this out 20 years ago!!! The doc's had always just prescribed the Zovirax or similar, which helped too, but about equal to ACV.

Life is good and, especially when you find a 'community' like this one to share REAL story's from REAL people.

One more REALLY important Health tip that I discovered, especially for women, Is taking 1,200 mg of Vitamin D EVERY SINGLE DAY with the magnesium to digest ( they are sold together in one pill) for your bones and hair! I was diagnosed with 15% Osteoporosis in my spine that was completely a silent disease I was unaware of! Just had a routine bone scan for my 50,000 mile check up and found out. So my good Dr. told me my options of choosing Fosamax, that can have the side effects of ruining other organs over time or take the 1,200mg calcium every day, no more and no less! No question there...I started taking them and within weeks my hair started really growing! Beautiful baby hair coming in everywhere! So I told my GF, same age, and same thing happened to her! my hair is consistantly 4" longer than it used to be. I figure bones must be better shape too, but will find out on my next bone scan.

Enjoy life everyone-it's the only one we KNOW we have for sure! ... and don't sweat the small stuff!!!!! xoxo

Posted by Freddie (Buckeye, AZ, USA) on 02/17/2009

I tried Lecithin. A Bechtel engineer who worked at a laboratory when he was younger told me that they grew the herpes virus. They used Lecithin to control and kill the herpes virus. He saw the herpes breakout on my face one day at work. He told me to take 2500 mg each day for a month. I asked him why he hasn't come forward with this information. He said that the FDA was too powerful to fight.

It worked for me. I haven't had a breakout in 20 years.

As I understand it, hospitals use Lecithin based baby formulas on new born babies born to women with genital herpes.

Lecithin 2500 mg a day for a month

Black Walnut Hull
Posted by Snow (Sussex) on 01/03/2022

Black walnut Tincture.

I struggled with Herpes 2 outbreaks almost monthly until I went to a kinesiologist who prescribed Blackwalnut Tincture. It's now been about 15 years since my last outbreak so either it went into total remission or I have been cured completely. I really hope this works for others. I took it internally (you can't take BW for too long) and I cannot remember what my dose was but I don't think I took it for a particularly long time. (6-8 weeks?) You can also apply it topically on any sores. I really hope this helps anyone struggling with outbreaks.

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Angel9 (Los Angeles) on 12/04/2006

All I want to know is... has anyone ever gone back to a doctor and test negative for HSV2 after being tested positive for HSV2? This and only this means you have been cured. You are not cured just by preventing outbreaks. You are just really good at dodging an attack. My GOAL!!! I have just had a positive blood test for HSV2. My plan is not to stop outbreaks but to stop the virus itself. Meaning the next time I get tested it will be negative. I don't know how long this will take but based on the knowledge I have gained about what type of virus this is, where it hides dormant in your body, and the many different theories people have on "CURING" herpes 1 & especially 2, it seems that the best way to start is with 35% Food Grade Peroxide. And obviously proper diet and immune system boosting vitamin regimen while only drinking DISTILLED WATER. Like I stated earlier I want to get rid of the virus not just the outbreaks. So far I have been reading miles and miles of claims of cures and all these claims are just stopping outbreaks not the virus. That is not enough for me. I have read only 1 and I mean only 1 person saying they have been tested negative after being tested positive. And he was using Oxygen Therapy with 35% food grade peroxide in Spain. Testing negative means, You can't pass what you don't have.

Multiple Remedies
Posted by Nicole (Australia) on 04/11/2017

I have found something even better. My last outbreak was a BAD one. I had a high fever because of it. I immediately went to the kitchen and took one tablespoon of l-lysine powder mixed with one teaspoon of vitamin c powder and a tablespoon of genuine new Zealand manuka honey mixed into a Luke warm half cup of purified water.

Made a turmeric, chicken and vegetable soup which is all I ate for the next three days and made up a small mixture of manuka honey, turmeric and vitamin c paste which I then slathered on to my entire vagina, I used a sanitary pad to stop the honey leakage and put on black pants (this stuff stains), laid a towel down and put myself to bed for the day while I ate bowls of turmeric, chicken and vegetable soup.

My soreness was completely gone by morning and by the next day I couldn't even tell I'd had an outbreak.

I was amazed. I've suffered for 10+ years, every outbreak lasting 7-12 days.

And now, thanks to my tireless research and trials, I have put together ingredients that cleared my outbreak within 24 hours.
I hope this helps someone.

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Kay (Colorado) on 08/13/2015

I have been using food grade h2o2 for a little over a month (25 drops x 3 times a day). I went to get retested this week and my level has dropped from 4.67 to 1.9. I would like to assume it is working. I plan to keep using it for the next 3 months then I'll get retested again! I heard that the blood takes 90 days to filter so hopefully by then end of that time this will all be over... But, I also feel like I should keep taking it 1 or 2 times a week just to make sure it all stays away!

Magnesium Citrate
Posted by JesusLives! (CA) on 03/08/2022

No more herpes outbreaks or shedding

High quality magnesium citrate supplement. I guarantee you will never get another outbreak again. Puts the virus completely to sleep. Men take 400mg per day women take 300mg per day. This is not an if or maybe, it will work. It 100% works for everyone. No more guessing or hoping something will work.

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Happy (Arizona ) on 12/21/2016

I had genital herpes so bad that I was breaking out in sores back to back. I never told my doctor that I had herpes because of the embarrassment and the fact that those findings must be reported to the BOH. My immune system had taken a dive, the lysine use to work, but all of a sudden it stop. The sores were coming out on my buttock, labia, and anus. I started the food grade H202 regimen 16 days ago and have not had further out breaks of herpes. I will continue the treatments for 3-5 months, but in a tapering dose and ending in a maintenance dose. I believe that after 30 days the virus will be totally eradicated, if not before. I'm feeling so much better about myself. I contracted herpes as a child while being raped, but I only broke out once in 25 years. I noticed the increase of outbreaks in the last 2 years. Then in the last 6 months or so they were coming more frequent, until it became back to back, even before a sore healed, more were coming. I was almost at the point where I was being forced to finally tell my PCP, for I knew I needed something to stop the outbreaks, and God brought to my attention the H202. Now I'm feeling clean and can be in a relationship, for I was feeling very lonely, but I couldn't tell anyone and didn't want to spread it. This was God sent, he heard my many cries, even on the 16 day-16 drops, I feel that the virus is more that 90% gone, but I'm only speculating. I just know that there has been no further outbreaks. I'm so happy now, I can have a normal life. Thank you God for the cleansing.

Oregano Oil
Posted by Cured (New York) on 06/21/2012

Wild Mediterranean Oil of Oregano cured me! I swear to you. Take 5 drops, under the tongue (hold it there for at least 30 seconds) then wash it down with water, twice daily. I have 100% faith in this. It worked for me. I swear by it. It has to be the Wild Meditterranean Oil of Oregano that says P73 on the bottle, it has the strongest healing properties. You can also rub a few drops, vigorously, on your skin at the base of your spine, each day. The results were so very quick for me and my body is eradicated of the virus. The Oil of Oregano disentigrates/destroys the virus, with consistent use for a couple of months. Also, look into a book called "The Cure is in the Cupboard. How to use Oregano for Better Health. " by Dr. Cass Ingram

Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Quinn K. (Palm Beach, FL) on 11/28/2020

I honestly couldn't pinpoint when or how I picked up gen herpes. I've had it years before I got it confirmed. Although I had a pretty wild college life, I've never had unprotected sex until I was ready to have a baby after getting married. So I just never thought it possibly, now I know it could have come through several ways, not just two touching genitals.

Anywho, as my family and work life grew, so did the frequency of outbreaks. They were coming at minimum, every month, sometimes 2-3 times a month. They never spread into big patches, always just a blister or a few, but the regularity and size-to-pain ratio is what finally made me think “God, please don't tell me I have herpes” and I got checked. Yep. I had got it.

I knew I wasn't going on antivirals so I started taking lysine, vitamin C, and oregano. It helped a lot, reducing the severity of outbreaks and even stopping them, but I found myself mega doses of lysine, like 3k-8k mg, when I felt one coming on, especially when it would cone aggressively and stubbornly.

I then began to hear about a rare number of people messing their kidneys up with lysine and stopped taking it right away. I had a short period when the outbreaks reduced greatly and I didn't see one for months. Then they slowly crept back. I tried tea tree oil which is supposed to help, the problem was, if not diluted properly, due to its strength, it can irritate the skin causing temporary damage, which actually allows the virus to come through and then the skin is too irritated to use anything else. With now five kids and a spouse (who's never shown signs of having it), the stress of an outbreak and me contaminating our home was horrible. Sitting in a meeting wondering if people could see my discomfort on my face was terrible.

Not wanting to get back in lysine, and not wanting to use irritating essential oils, I decided to try peroxide. I was worried it would burn me up, but surprisingly it didn't. I would get that tingle or itch or vibrating nerve feeling and apply peroxide. Magically I wouldn't get an OB. I've been doing this for over six months and no outbreak has come through.

Here's my routine that always works for me:

1. Peroxide. Using a spray bottle (you can find a peroxide spray at grocery store or in-line and use regular peroxide bottles to refill.) spray on a baby wipe or directly and dab any area that itches, tingles, and any genital area that ever had a breakout. Do this after using the restroom or even if you feel one coming on.

2. If you nice any irritation at all, add virgin coconut oil to this. You can rub some on a baby wipe and then spray it with peroxide. This blends it in your skin perfectly. You can even do this with no irritation, it just adds an extra step.

3. If you have a particularly aggressive threat of an outbreak, one that doesn't seem to want to let off, hit the shower. Even if you've already had one that day. Spray your whole genital area with the hottest water you can handle down there. Front and back. This kills the shedded virus on the skin and virus close to the skin that's still in the nerves and often chases it away. When you're done drying off, follow 1. And 2.

Keeping your genital area clean, front and back, is super important. My doctor, who is also a good buddy from college, said one of the biggest outside influences to an outbreak is being unclean and/or sweaty. Bacteria and sweat seem to make a happy environment for an OB. So even when you don't want to, shower the bastards off of you.

Try not to stress. When you feel the signs, inhale deep, and exhale. You'll be fine! Just try my tips!

I would go into dietary changes, but for me, what I eat doesn't seem to matter. I've been on a fully lysine diet, outbreaks. I've done high arginine diets, no increase in outbreaks. So this is a personal decision, and should be based on how diet affects your OBs.

This isn't a cure, but it sure beats drugs and for me, this has worked 100% of the time, coming from someone who was getting multiple outbreaks a month.

Best of luck.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Greed (Dc) on 11/27/2015

I have "undiagnosed" gential herpes. I am 23 and I contracted it when I was only 17. I've never had a cold sore or anything else like that in my life so imagine my horror when painful blisters started to appear on my sensitive clit and on the lips right above it. I haven't gone to the doctor to get it checked out maybe because I'm stupid, still in denial.. (Although writing this really helps) or just plain ashamed and afraid of getting a diagnosis and having a doctor look at me in my face and tell me I have gential herpes.

Anyways, I guess you can consider me lucky? Out of the 6 years I have lived with this virus I have only had outbreaks 3 times and it happens only once a year around the time I contracted the virus and in the same spot (either 1 or 2 blisters on my clit and/or a tiny cluster right above that on my vagina lip)

i am suffering from an outbreak right now as I write this and as I type this up on my iPhone I have a cotton swab with apple cider vinegar on it. This is my first time using ACV and I must say I do like it. Yes, it does burn a little but as a girl who wants to see and feel improvements immediately I think the stinging is a good sign like 'yeah take that herpes! ' At first I was using cold refined virgin coconut oil because coconut oil heals everything and I read somewhere that it kills the virus but to be honest I didn't think it was doing the job but maybe I'm impatient. The coconut oil stopped the excruciating itching (washed my hands, stuck my finger into the oil, applied topically to the affected area at night and went to bed) but like I said I didn't really like the results, I would wake up expecting the blisters to be gone, they are running their course, slowly, and that's not what I want. Mind you this is... Maybe day 4 or 5, after this outbreak clears up I'm definitely going to look into preventive measure like the pine cone extract, taking coconut oil orally, and/or taking ACV orally.

I really appreciate this website considering I am doing this alone and haven't told a soul my secret. I'm sure one day I will have to admit it to someone like my husband or a doctor or something but until then it is my secret and my shame alone but this site has really helped me and maybe it's not that bad. Maybe I can do this and do things so I won't have an outbreak and not feel ashamed of a mistake I did when I was young.

If anyone else is suffering I highly recommend all natural apple cider vinegar. Put it on a cotton swab and while you relax or before bed just let it sit there. Yes it will burn and yes you will want to tale it off. Maybe let it sit until you can't anymore, remove the swab, catch your breath, and douse another swab and do it again. I hope this post and this whole website helps anyone who feels like they are lost and alone like it helped me because you're not lost or alone and there are preventive measure so you can live a normal life and have a healthy, active sex life (please use protection of course) without feeling like you're going to pass on the virus.

Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by D (Memphis) on 02/24/2016

The peroxide worked for Hsv 1. I was diagnosed in 10/2012. I started the regiment. It was gone when I had my annual exam 4/2013.

Dietary Changes
Posted by [email protected] (Bklyn, Ny) on 07/11/2012

Hey everyone, I had mentioned that next month I will get retested, but I changed my mind and decided to do it by year end. Here is the reason why. I have just began a vegan diet as of this week and figure I will be ready. I still take flounder and consume the "onion garlic " drink which I believe is masking the condition with GH. Masking is not enough, I want it gone! I was still eating meat and other foods I should not be consuming so hence I am not ready to be retested. With my new lifestyle, I believe the end of the year would be better. I no longer take spirulina since I found out it is high in arginine. I only take the onion/garlic drink, cinnamon drink, lots of freshly squeezed lemon for ph, virgin raw coconut oil and oil of oregano. No more oily foods, salt, sugar etc. I try to eat mostly organic foods especially fruits and veggies raw or blanched. The fact that my friend has evidence that these two people are cured, I feel it is time I get serious. I do not want to be an old woman with this when there is evidence out there of cures. I want my life back.

Folks, do not bother with those who post that there is no cure, all things are possible. Some people want to eat the same old foods and get good result. This is insanity. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. We also have a God who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think. Oh, I also forgot to tell you I take purges and enema as well. Do not give up. The evidence is out there. I will keep u guys updated. God loves us in spite of. His nature is to love. Do not be discouraged!

Posted by Suzy (Indiana) on 07/14/2018

Lecithin cures herpes. Get a bottle of soft capsules. They are large, take three a day, three times a day. You will never have an outbreak again. I say soft capsules because the liquid is thick and difficult to get down. Liquid is fine if you can take it. Just go buy lecithin in whatever form you want at your local health food store and take it daily. There's no magic formula of what brand or pill as opposed to liquid. Take it until you don't have an outbreak then take it a bit longer. There's an old post here on earthclinic about lecithin curing herpes. Do some research and find it. I had near continuous outbreaks until I started lecithin and I had tried everything out there. Lecithin works! I can't stress it enough. It will set you free. Then go tell everyone you know who suffers.

Pine Cone Extract
Posted by Joel (Middleton Usa) on 12/05/2013

Pine cone extract cures herpes. Same with Hemp Oil. You're all welcome :)