Bach Flower Remedies
After I was diagnosed with HG last week, and being pregnant as well, I started looking for natural solutions right away. The one I liked while looking at this site was the one with the Flower remedies. I went straight to the store, got the essences (holly and walnut) and within a day the infection got less; within 3 days it was gone. No more agony (for now), and I'm a happy woman! Thanks.
(Las Vegas, Nv)
which store can I find this holly and walnut from? is it an oil or an actual flower?
EC: Bach flower remedies are tinctures made from the flowers. More info here: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/flowers.html
Bach Flower Remedies
The past three years, I have had an outbreak of genital herpes outbreak every few months. I altered my diet, stayed out of the sun, stopped drinking alcohol... all the things you are supposed to do. Also took lysine daily. I then went on medication. The meds helped the severity of the outbreaks, but still did not stop the bi monthly outbreak cycle. In desperation, I looked on the internet and saw Earth Clinic's suggestion for flower remedies as a potential cure. I was skeptical, but willing to try... I located the brand of flower remedy you recommended at a holistic pharmacy and started applying it (holly and walnut) in diluted form to the outbreak area. I also took it internally 4x a day. That was a few months ago and I have not had another outbreak! I still continue to take the remedy internally a few times a day. The minute I feel that tingling, warning sensation, I put a few drops on the area a few times a day and nothing manifests. Wow. Such relief!! Can't tell you how grateful I am. Thank you Thank you Thank you!
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/flowers.html see what they say about diluting
Hey everybody! I learned of a very strange but very effective treatment for outbreaks at a Herpes Awareness Seminar in Illinois last year. It hasn't gotten much attention as it has only come to being in the last year or so. Anyway, all you have to do is soak a little bit of BBQ sauce on the area of the outbreak. The acids from the sauce seep into your skin and neutralize the problems. Let it sit for about 10 minutes and you will feel a slight 'tingle' effect. After that, clean the area off with water and then witch hazel. This really works and came as a huge relief to me! (Just one more thing, this only works when there is an outbreak present.) Glad to help!
Oh Wow!!!! I'm kinda scared to try that one, but hey to make these things dissappear, I'm willing to try almost anything.
I was averaging 1-2 outbreaks a month of HSV 2 for many years (maybe 20 years). Acyclovir stopped them if started early enough, but only temporarily. I started taking BHT 300 mg, 5 months ago and I have not had even one outbreak. I am in heaven. SO grateful
BHT for HSV
Tried BHT (1000mg divided doses; 2x daily) with St John's wort for 6 months with no improvement. Took it with 6-8g of Vit C daily.
Hi. I've had hsv2 for almost 2 years now..one night with an ex. I was suffering from this disease every single month. I only get outbreaks every 28 days..when it's that time of the month. I was nervous about trying BHT, but I'd already tried lots of other things and said why not. I tried the Oregano oil mixed with coconut oil...this didn't help at all. I've also tried extreme doses of Vitamin c and Lysine pills...this didn't help either. Finally I tried BHT, I ordered it from amazon. Because I know exactly when my outbreaks will happen, I started right away taking either 4 or 5 250mg pills in the morning with one full bottle of water. I'm now one month free of outbreaks. This is the longest I've ever gone without an outbreak, while I don't think I'm cured, I certainly think that I've found something that give me some sort of relief.
Also during the week when the outbreak was prone to come I took 2 more 250 mg pills at night so I was taking a total of 6 to 7 pills a day. During the time that I'm less likely to have an outbreak, I just take 4 pills in the morning. I will keep you guys posted hopefully I'll never have another one again. I've also bought the food grade peroxide, but haven't tried it yet because the BHT seems to be working. I hope I'm not taking too much of it.
(Syracuse, New York)
Yes Rsw, That is the dosage range I have discussed and recommended: one to two 250mg capsules of BHT with water only on an empty stomach. For those people who weigh more than 200 pounds some more BHT might be needed.
I spent years reading the many long, extensive WHO reports. One of those reports came out with a "No Observed Effects Level " or NOEL for BHT. When this WHO report says NOEL they are discussing ADVERSE or HARMFUL effects.
I will try and find that report and provide a link to it. Here is that link: http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v35je02.htm
This is what it says at the bottom of this very long report:
4. EVALUATION In view of the probable involvement of hepatic enzyme induction in the development of the hepatocellular damage associated with repeated doses of BHT, the Committee concluded that, in this case, enzyme induction was the most sensitive index of effects on the liver. A well-defined threshold was demonstrated at 100 mg/kg bw/day in the long-term study reviewed for the first time at this meeting, giving a NOEL of 25 mg/kg bw/day. Effects observed in the reproduction segments of the in utero/lifetime exposure studies were also taken into account in the derivation of this NOEL. The Committee used a safety factor of 100 to allocate an ADI of 0-0.3 mg/kg bw for BHT.
But the ADI IS 1/100th of that NOEL.
The ADI is defined as : ADI acceptable daily intake
So my recommendations are less than the NOEL but more than The ADI.
By the way: That long report answers just about every health concern you can imagine. It IS the most comprehensive report about BHT I know as to SAFETY concerns. ...Oscar
Thank you, Oscar, for clarifying that for us. I was concerned to see the poster was taking seven or so capsules each day. I hope this is a good day for you and that your pain level is coming down. So happy to see a couple of your posts recently! You are always helping others. If there is anything we could do to help you in some way, please just let us know and there will be a huge effort by so many on Earth Clinic who have benefited from your knowledge and research to get that help to you. You are a wonderful, giving, intelligent member of this group and we are sending you our prayers and best wishes that you will feel better. It is good to hear from you. You have been greatly missed! Take care!
Hi to all . I suffer from genital herpes I experience an outbreak about every two weeks. I have tried everything. From Red Marine Algae, lysine, olive leaf extract, green algae, Mediterranean Oregano oil, red Pepper, cayenne pepper, Ginger, garlic, turmeric, Prunella Vulgaris, onion water, Apple cider vinegar, multi onion blend smoothie, mineral clay and that is about it. I say that with a very sarcastic under tone.
I started BHT this past Wednesday. I am starting to feel an outbreak right now. I see some red spots coming up. They are on and around my genital area in places that they have never been before. I got a blister in my mouth Friday which is now gone. I have never had a blister that looked like what I get down there anywhere but down there. I do get fever blisters but you cannot see them at all they just hurt a little bit and that's about it. I also have one that came up yesterday inside my nose. Is this normal ? Nothing has worked to date! I will say that nothing has made it run for the hills like this . Should I be concerned about this or is this the HSV reacting to the medicine ? I did take Valtrex for about 1 1/2 years it worked. I'm not real big on taking a pill for the rest of my life. So I started doing research and found many mixed reviews on a lot of different products. I have pretty much tried all of them.
So I'm going to give BHT a shot. Is there anything else that I should take with BHT and can I take it out of the capsules and apply it directly to the infected areas or the areas that are tingling before an outbreak ?
(St. Charles, Mo)
Hi Ben from LS,
Very interesting to read your experience with BHT for Genital Herpes. Although my outbreaks are not as severe as yours, I get around 2 - 3 per year.
I have started on BHT around December 2014, and no outbreaks since then but a very similar thing happened to me. I started getting the tingling and bumps on my butt, dull pain down from buttocks to knee on one leg. I never got this in this area ever before. I always used to get outbreaks in the same spot near my genitals. But since BHT, I only had slight discomfort around genitals but no big issue at all.
But the new location, the virus seemed to be trying very hard to break out for at least a month and half non-stop but never really causing a break-out. I still have what seems like a very mild issue on my butt.
When the mild attack was not going away for more than a month, I upped my dosage from 250mg 2x day to 500mg 2x day for a couple of days and that certainly helped. I also apply BHT dissolved to saturation in 70% isopropyl alcohol every 5 days or so.
So, my experience is similar to yours- BHT seems to be chasing the virus away from its usual breakout spot to new locations. My hope is that eventually, the virus will run out of places to go and gets wiped out.
Please keep the hope and continue with BHT. And share your updates here. I plan to get tested soon and BTW, I never got tested but the symptoms are unmistakable.
(Syracuse, New York)
Hello Ben and Anon, Yes these are typical or the usual responses with the use of BHT to treat herpes infections. Generally: With the use of BHT to treat herpes infections of all types: The outbreaks and sores diminish over time with DAILY DOSING with 250mg to 500mg of BHT per day. Some have reported an immediate END to all outbreaks. But that is NOT the usual pattern. Most often the BHT treatment gradually decreases the occurence and severity of said outbreaks. Those sores that occur.
Also: Anon has good advice: If you have NO problem taking BHT, DOUBLE DOSING with BHT when a herpes outbreak occurs is helpful. And BHT dissolved in isopropanol [ rubbing alcohol as sold in drugstores ] is effective as a TOPICAL TREATMENT ONLY. NEVER drink isopropanol. It is TOXIC if imbibed.
I try and be very clear about all this....Oscar
Hello there, I have been reading about BHT and it is so controversial that I haven't decided yet if I will take it or not. I want to try it for herpes but I read that it passes your brain barriers. Please educate about this. Have you seen anyone eliminating the herpes virus with BHT? Is it safe? I appreciate your reply, blessings, Isabela
Isabela, Use Lysine for herpes. At 1-3 grams a day. It will work. BHT is a natural occuring antioxident from fresh water plankton and is a wonderful product. The FDA has been spreading rumors about since the 70's BECAUSE it works so well on many things. And after all how can you make $$ from something made by Mother Nature..
There was what I consider a very important and instructive posting from Karin from Germany regarding this issue that was posted in this forum back on March 3, 2012.
Karin`s strategy is to hit those genital herpes outbreaks hard with a 500mg dose of BHT Twice a day for 3 days at the first indications of an outbreak and then to drop that dosage to one 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach. This is what I consider a very instructive posting. Here is what Karin had to say:
03/02/2012: Paul from Otterndorf, Germany replies: "Hello Oscar, my name is Karin. I am the wife of Paul from Germany / Otterndorf. After my husband has done such a great experience with BHT, I wanted to try it. I have genital herpes for about 30 years, the last 5 years I had an outbreak every two weeks, that was really cruel. I notice it every time, just before it breaks, I feel a burning sensation in the legs and partly in the face.
When it started again last week, I took the first 3 days of BHT 500mg twice daily on an empty stomach. I usually do not believe in miracles, but for me is probably a miracle happened - the herpes outbreak has not occurred. Additionally stops I feel as good as never before.
I will now continue with BHT-treatment with preventive 1x daily 250mg. Thanks again for your excellent work. All love from Germany, Karin"
Now Karin was a long time sufferer of this infection. Over 30 years. Her intuition as to how best to use the BHT for that infection is very impressive to me....Oscar
Oscar, I know BHT has worked for some people with the herpes virus, but, is it possible to have a reaction to this. I have been using it for about 3 weeks now and just now, as soon as I took the pill I started itching & then appeared a bump on the site at the base of my spine. Top of my buttocks area... I only take one pill at bedtime. I suffer quite badly with this virus, every month... Any suggestions?
(Syracuse, New York)
Dear Alia from Birmingham UK, Let me see if I can help you. Did this bump you describe EVER occur PRIOR to trying the BHT ? Is it like a big pimple, or more like a boil ? Or something else ? Some people have experienced different skin reactions with the use of BHT. For now, cut back on the BHT to one capsule every other day. There is no big hurry with this treatment. We need to find a dosage you are OK with. Also these capsules can be opened up and you can tap out half the capsule and try half a capsule per day. And because you are having adverse effects please do join the BHT cures group here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
Look, this BHT really does seem to work remarkably well as a treatment for hepatitis C. For some people it takes getting used to. If needs be you can simply stop taking it if this problem does not go away or gets worse and start again with the BHT treatment in a week or two if this condition goes away. Also a menmber of this forum did report breaking out with pimples. He said he always broke out with pimples when detoxing. He also said: these pimples went away and his skin was like that of a baby`s, much improved, with the BHT treatments.
So for now, lower the dosage of BHT you are now taking and let`s see what happens....Oscar
(Syracuse, New York)
Dear Alia, I do suggest you join the BHT CURES group. That way you can stay in contact with me and other members using the BHT treatment. To do so go here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
For most people any problems with the BHT treatment tend to go away and soon [ within a few weeks ]. For some the BHT takes getting used to. For now: lower the dosage of BHT to allow your body to adjust to this BHT and let`s take it from there. Most people have NO problem with the BHT treatment. Some do.
Also, and impotantly: eating a heathy low fat diet is important. The same is very much true for doing an adequate amount exercise....Oscar
herpes and BHT
If anyone can tell me where to look to buy BHT? I would love to know. I don't want to give my credit card info. to some anon.company off the internet from a google search. I've read there are quite a few scams out there: especially with
companies knowing that we can't normally buy BHT in stores any longer. At least not in Los Angeles.
Bella - [email protected]
I read here about taking BHT for genital herpes. I tried it and it worked great. I had been managing it for years with just L-Lysine, 500 mg, but increased to 3,000 for the occasional outbreak. But it wasn't working any more. In desperation, I checked out your site for a new remedy and found the BHT. I simply take one 250 mg. capsule per day, every day, and it started to work immediately! It has be two weeks and I have not had an outbreak. I can highly recommend this remedy. I am looking forward to good health for the future. Thank you so much for all that you do.
(Myrtle Beach, South Carolina)
WARNING! I TRIED BHT. IT GAVE ME THE MOST SEVERE HEADACHES OF MY LIFE. I COULD NOT GET OUT OF BED FOR THE WHOLE NEXT DAY. TRIED IT TWICE WITH THE EXACT SAME RESULTS.
Better But With Side Effects
This is an update from Michele in Waterbury. After taking BHT daily for three years, which was successfully managing my Genital Herpes outbreaks, I started having digestive problems. Constant gas, discomfort, bloating, intolerence of wheat and hemorrhoids. I read on this site that if you have hemorrhoids, you have a yeast infection in your gut. I am wondering if the daily dosing of BHT caused an im-balance in my gut and that now I have an overpopulation of yeast in my gut. I had to stop the BHT, and am treating the gut yeast infection with raw garlic and pre-biotics. I feel much better, but I can see that it will take some time to get back to normal. If I stop the raw garlic, the symptoms return. Since BHT is a preservative that kills bacteria, I think it killed off the good bacteria in my gut. Anyone else having gut problems?
I am treating the Genital Herpes with a prescription anti-viral. Just wanted to let people knonw, that if you are treating GH with BHT, and experiencing digestive problems, it may just be the BHT.
Thanks for sharing about the digestive issues. With this recent outbreak, I've had a loss of appetite, diarrhea, indigestion, some nausea and nothing food-wise appeals to me. Generally, when having a breakout, I feel literally sick and extremely fatigued. This time the symptoms are worse so I'm wondering if it's the BHT. I've stopped all supplements to see if I feel better and if some of the digestive symptoms leave. This is a horrible disease.
This worked the very first time out for me so maybe it will give someone else relief too. FYI....This will be a little long because genital herpes has ruled my life for so long so I've got a lot to tell. First I'll tell you what didn't work, Bach flower therapy, I tried it for six months, no, Choraphor was good when the lesions are active but for me, I experience a lot of discomfort before the actual outbreak so I hated waiting for a lesion to weep before doing anything about it. Then the pain applying to the lesion was too much in addtion to the price. Red Marine Algae, no, spirulina, no Lysine rich diet, no..monolaurin and lysine supplements, I think they are good in reducing the severity of colds and flu but not reducing the severity of genital herpes. I haven't had sugar in about a year, I don't wear binding clothes, I stopped chewing gum with aspartame....Everything I've used or tried, didn't seem to work. I was still getting outbreaks bi-monthly. (I'm not sure why, it may have to do with hormonal changes, I always get one right before my period and now I'm catching on, when I'm ovulating). As you can see, has been a quest. The only thing I didn't try was BHT. I had heard horror stories about it. However, I was so frustrated I finally purchased it and was only on my second day of taking it AND getting over a very bad outbreak of three lesions, when I felt another one was on its way. The pain in my leg was so great I knew it was going to be a doozy too. I immediately took 700 mgs of BHT as soon as I got home that day and took 700 mgs more in the morning and the evening for 2 days straight. Once I felt the lesion raising up, I also applied it topically. I broke open about 6 capsules of it and melted it in olive oil. I used a cotton ball to swab it on down there. What I liked about it was that it wasn't painful like Choraphor. I applied it topically for 2 days as well. After day 2 into day 3, all I had was the tiniest bump which I swabbed again. This is the fourth day, and while I still feel 'remnants' of the pain there are no active lesions at all. I know this doesn't mean I'm not contagious but at least I'm not suffering from the pain and discomfort. I'm going to buy the powdered version so that I won't have use my capsules again. Meanwhile, I read up on BHT and found that St. John's Wort can be used in conjunction with it to make it more effective. Since I've had outbreaks twice a month for almost 20 years I need all the help I can get. For now this is the regimin: 350 mg of BHT, one a day St John's Wort, and two to three shots of apple cider vinegar a day. I'm also taking Stress B Complex, Vitamin C, Multi-Vitamin and Calcium. I still have lysine and monolaurin left but I don't know if I'll continue taking it since it didn't help too much before. I just may take the minimum required of both lysine and monolaurin because as I said before it seemed to reduce the severity of colds and flu. For outbreaks, I'll up the dosage to 700 mg of BHT twice daily, and swabbed the infected areas with it melted in olive oil. Thanks to the anonymous person that posted it here, it really worked this time around, I'll keep you all posted. Maybe I'll have even more good news in a few months.
I have had herpes for several years and finally found an ointment that really helps with itching and heals lesions in a couple of days. It's call Lemon Balm for Wise Ways. I apply it with a q-tip to each lesion or with a cotton ball and the itching will automatically go away and stops the pain. I also use Olive Leaf Extract in capusle form and found this to work very well and L-lysine capsules as well. I am now going to try to use the APV directly and internally.
(Brewster, Ny, Usa)
I just started BHT thank you for your story, my experience the same.. how is it now many years later?
BHT dissolved in olive oil is the greatest topical treatment I have ever tried. For every 5ml of oil use 5-350mg capsules or 1750mg of BHT powder. You must heat the oil but not hot enough to fry anything. Use a dropper to apply and do not contaminate the oil. Before I used peroxide and it would work but it turned my finger tips white and it left scars. There is absolutely no scarring using BHT and Olive oil and it even helps fade old HSV scars. I use it daily even when I'm not having an outbreak and so far so good. Hasn't been long enough to claim a reduction if outbreaks but the duration is like 2 days and you can't even tell you had an OB. AND it kills any pain from the ulcer. Try it.
I recently paid $10 for two pages of information from this web site: www.finallyfree.us. Basically, the information said you can cure HSV (become antibody negative) using BHT (butylated hydroxytoluene) for a year or two at a dose of @50 mg to 1,000 mg (I am going by memory - you'll need to do research yourself). There is a book called "Wipe Out Herpes With BHT" by John A. Mann and Steven Wm. Fowkes. copyright 1983. which is where this information is sourced from. He said that the best source for BHT is www.1to1vitamins.com
For more info go to:
There, I just saved you ten bucks! Hope this helps.
EC: BHT is butylated hydroxytoluene, phenolic compounds that are often added to foods to preserve fats. BHT may have antiviral and anti microbial activities. Studies are underway concerning the use of BHT in the treatment of herpes simplex and AIDS.