I took my chocolate lab to (2) different vets trying to figure out what was going on with his skin. They put him on cortisone pills, antibiotics, had me dip him in sulphur dips on five day intervals. Nothing seemed to help him. He would appear to somewhat get better, but nothing major noticeable. The smell never eased up. On my own, I tried vinegar baths and other things to try and ease up and/or cure his condition. Nothing ever helped. A year later and about $500.00 American dollars poorer; I was about to give up hope of helping him. Then, I stumbled onto your remedy using peroxide, borax, and water. I thought, why not give it a shot; I've spent out all sorts of $$ on every type of cure thinkable. If it helps him, I would be so much relieved for him. I went to the store that evening and bought a box of mule team borax, two bottle of peroxide (I anticipated more than one treatment, and I was right) and a sponge for application. The next afternoon, I cornered the poor fellow and sponged on a dose of the mixture. He wasn't impressed, but he is a little gun shy about washings and dips since he has been subjected to so much in and so many treatments already. I laid in on heavy this first treatment , and left it to dry up on him. He rolled around in the yard like any other treatment or bath and then went about his usual business. The next day, he seemed less flaky; and when I brushed him, the skin flakes seemed to just come right out with ease. Two days later, I made up another batch. A little less potent this time. I sponged him down again ( to his dismay, he hates personal hygiene issues now) I left this on to dry. The next day, he had some dried up flakes; but not near as many. Most of the yellowish scale was gone; and his odor was starting to improve (Not gone all the way though) Two days later, I again made up another batch and sponged it all over him. Left it to dry. The next day, he had hardly any new flakes, his odor is gone, hair is starting to re grow. I'm just totally amazed. I am going to make a spritz and lightly spritz him once a week when I brush him out and hopefully he will remain in remission for whatever this stuff was. Maybe it was the red mange. Whatever it was, your #2 cure has given him his life back. He had to be miserable. Thank you for sharing your remedy; I'm ecstatic. $3.90 for a box of borax, $1.00 for 2 bottles of peroxide, a couple cents worth of water equals approximately $5.00..................my dog's well being and peace of mind from the savages of his skin condition, priceless!
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Hello Ted, The first thing I would like to do if it were at all possible, would be to shake your hand Ted and thank you most sincerely for your advice on the treatment of 'Dermodecosis' (Red Mange).
For us your advice has been a miracle cure! We have 2 exceptional examples of how your advice on the use of the 'wash and Borax / Hydrogen Peroxide soaks' have worked and they are as follows:
1st example - We had a litter of pups and at about 4 weeks old one pup started to get pimples on his head and chest. We duly took him to the vet suspecting an allergy to either the grass or a change in the soap powder we used. The vet confirmed this and put him on antibiotics and some antihistamine tablets.
One week later the pimples had spread over his head, neck, throat and chest and most of the others had them too. The boys were by far the worst affected. We took the original pup back to the vet and one other and he immediately diagnosed the cause as being the Dermodex Mite or 'Red Mange'. The only treatment he recommended was 'Advocate' a liquid anti-mite/flea/worm treatment which is applied on the skin on the back of the neck, but as per instructions, our pups were too young for it. The next day the vet phoned the manufacturers of Advocate and they said it was safe to use in a pup of nearly 6 weeks old but it had to be an exact amount according to the individual weight of the pup. So, later that day the vet came out weighed each pup and applied the appropriate amount of liquid. The pups had to be separated from each other, to avoid the stuff being licked off. This was duly done and did they scream? You betcha they did!
4 days later and the pups were far worse, with the first pup now being bright red virtually all over the front half from the waist forward and some of the skin had cracked and little sores were developing. In my opinion, the Avocate had done absolutely nothing to help and the situation was becoming hopeless.
In a desperate attempt to find something to help these poor babies, I went on the internet, came across 'www.earthclinic.com' and Ted with his 'miracle cure' (no joke!).
We brought all the pups into the kitchen, washed each in turn with a little shampoo and warm water, then placed them in a tub we had bought for the purpose and soaked them in the Borax/Hydrogen Peroxide solution and left them sopping wet to dry on towels/blankets in front of the fire (but not too close).
We both got well covered ourselves and many times had the solution splashed onto our faces and in ours eyes. Absolutely no pain was experienced by either of us, which was really reassuring, as we didn't't know whether or not the solution would sting. The pups didn't't mind the bathing part but were quite distressed at being left soaking wet and made no bones about telling us off! Again this was somewhat distressing but we followed Ted's instructions and resisted the temptation to dry them off.
It took some time for them to dry completely and once they were all content again we fed them and all was well. We did end up with 9 rather white and dusty pups, as when they dried, powder deposits remained on their coats: got to say, they did look quite cute though, especially the black ones! Now this is where we feel the miracle fits in - 2 DAYS LATER, the original pup had almost totally cleared of his redness, spots, scabs and sores and this is fact! All the other pups that had been infected had the same result - absolutely amazing! The relief for us was phenomenal, I can tell you and not to mention for our pups.
We repeated the 'wash and soak' as Ted suggests, 3 days later and before the week was out there was absolutely no sign of the Dermodecosis what so ever. I have gone on a bit so I will end here and give you the 2nd example later.
Please note the above is my personal experience and the views contained there in are my own. A MASSIVE THANK YOU TED FROM ALL OF US (2 and 4 legged ones) FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE, YOU WILL NEVER KNOW JUST HOW EXTREMELY GRATEFUL WE ARE.
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I used the peroxide, Vinegar,and 20 mule team borax soap. It started to take effect right when I put it on my dog, which has been itching forever and losing hair even around her eyes. The itching has stopped. Mira has elephant skin also during this ordeal on her webbing in between her legs which is smoothing out also. One bottle of 3% peroxide and two bottles of water from the empty bottle of peroxide which brings it down to 1% in a water pitcher. !/2 cup unfiltered vinegar, 1/2 cup borax and it will dissolve. I shampooed her first and let her dry. Then sprayed the solution all over her between her toes also and pads and leave it on. You will see the difference in her skin right away. Adding 1/8 teaspoon Borax to 2 liters of water for drinking all the time cleanses the inside also of mites from itching and biting. I spray her down every other day with the solution....I hope this works for you.
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I have been doing Ted's treatment for about three weeks and it is slowly curing the mange
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My daughter got a miniature dashund from a "Petco store" that had touch of mange on his ears, which started out the size of a dime, it spread to the size of a silver dollar sized area on both ears, I gave him a good bath and dried him off. then soaked him mostly his ears, and applied the "Borax, peroxide, a little lemon juice in a 1/2 gallon of water, soaked him in it and "DID NOT DRY HIM,LET IT DRY ON HIS WHOLE BODY , ITS BEEN ABOUT 8 WEEKS NOW AND ALL HE HAIR ON HIS EARS IS GROWN BACK. HE'S NOW A BEAUTIFUL, little guy very perky, with a small white area on his chest and the rest a typical reddish brown.
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I knew my dog had mange this summer, or possibly a terrible case of flea allergies. All I knew was if I went to the vet he would slowly poison my dog, at a very high cost to me. Traditional mange treatments are very harsh, mitaban is extremely toxic to say the least. I'm not against going to the vet, I sure have spent a lot of money on my four dogs there. So I searched for natural non toxic remedies, and I found your website. At the time you had only 2 remedies posted. At this point my dog was only 1 1/2 years old, a purebred, and well taken care of, there was no good reason for him having mange, or at the worst terrible flea allergies. He is a beautiful black and white Australian Shepherd. This is what I did.
I tried the remedy from Ted of Bangkok. I had two problems with his recipe. I never could keep enough hydrogen peroxide in the house. I only used it twice. And he said to leave the mixture on the dog, and don't dry him off, well what do you do with a sopping wet dog in the house, or when it's super cold outside. So I modified the recipe and method of application. Max (my dog) had lost at least 60% or more of his fur, from his shoulder blades all the way to his tail, including his legs, underbelly, and even the back of his ears. This was pathetic, I'm sorry but I didn't take pictures, to prove my point. THIS IS HOW I CURED MAX. These are the ingredients I used. You must buy these, nothing else, no substitutes. 20 MULE TEAM BORAX, it will say natural laundry booster under Borax, you can get it at Wall Mart Super Centers, and ORGANIC APPLE CIDER VINEGAR, IT'S RAW AND UNFILTERED, You can only get it at a health food store. ( Do not buy at a grocery store, those vinegars only smell and look like vinegar, but they have absolutely no medicinal value.) The third and last ingredient is simple cheap, people shampoo, like VO5, or Suave.
THIS IS HOW TO APPLY. IF YOU DOG IS REALLY, REALLY, BAD WITH MANGE, DO THIS EVERY THIRD DAY. WHEN MY MAX STARTED GETTING BETTER, USUALLY AFTER WASHING HIM EVERY THIRD DAY FOR TWO WEEKS, NOW I ONLY DO HIM ONCE A WEEK. Now all you need is a small plastic cereal bowl. Put 1/2 cup of borax in bowl, now put 1 1/2 to 2 cups of warm water in the bowl, mix it very well with a spoon, not all of it will dissolve, lots of it will settle on the bottom of the bowl, don't worry. Now add 1/4 to 1/3 cup of Apple Cider Vinegar to the bowl, mix well. Your dog is now in the tub, well lathered up, Now you take the mixture, and pour, or apply by hand all over his body, it will spread easily, don't worry about the grittiness, just don't rub it in too hard, it might fell like sandpaper on the dogs skin. I would have my dog sit with all this stuff on him in the tub for at least 3-5 minutes. Well I was worried about winter, and my fur less dog, but now in less than two months all of his fur is back, happy, healthy, and playing in the snow. One thing I didn't mention at the onset of his problem I did a 2 week detox on him to help out his immune system. This sure couldn't hurt any dog with illnesses. P.S. Get the book " Apple Cider Vinegar " It's only $8.00 at your Health Food Store, or go to www.bragg.com to order. This is an amazing old time, folk type remedy. I've been taking it for less than 2 months, and have had amazing results, you'll know why your dog is getting better once you know what this product is capable of doing. I wish good health to everyone's best buddies, good luck!!!
(San Diego Ca, Usa)
I used this years ago and it worked. What I did was soak an old t-shirt or towel in Ted's peroxide and borax mange solution (My dog is 90 pounds) and then I applied it to his skin and sat with him for the amount of time. That way it was able to saturate on him and it got all the skin. I did not rinse it off. I applied it to all parts of the skin. The t-shirt soaked in it gave me better control of applying it to his face and around the ears too.
My question has nothing to do with your remedy but with the mange itself.
I work in rescue and pulled a dog from a high kill shelter 5 days ago. She has been to the vet and is being treated for both demodectic and sarcoptic mange. How contagious is sarcoptic to humans? We interact with her a lot, so my number 1 concern is my children.
(Park City, Utah)
My poor little Staffie with a mostly white coat has extremely sensitive thin skin. For years I've been treating her mange (as we live out in the sticks) and other skin conditions. I myself have been very ill for quite some time. On top of this I am host to MRSA with much discomfort and distress. I have spent many hours with a microscope after brushing my dog and myself & done some research .
Does anyone know that Mange is the result of some strain of MRSA including other skin conditions like pyoderma? This is what they FAIL TO TELL YOU! It's the same problem for some animals as is for humans. They are keeping it under raps so it doesn't result in mass hysteria! Correct me if I'm wrong by all means only I've spent five years obsessedly with this problem now my dog is in a bad way along with myself and no cure that will be offered to you after 4 different treatments of antibiotics. Not with the recent cut backs.
~dips in the ocean if possible
~coconut oil stroked lovingly into the fur
~regular clean bedding
~A healthy diet are my suggestions for the natural approach.
Good luck to all ;)
Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate: Is this the borax you are talking about? My dog has hairless raw spots that have turned her skin black. Two months of antibiotics and no results. Vet says it is staph and or fungus. She stinks, but I love her so it don't really matter to me. Please help me. Lydia
EC: Please see the borax page for more information: http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
(Qc, Quezon City ,philippines)
(Chula Vista, Ca, Usa)
Ted's mange cure remedy
I would like you to include this recipe in spanish. If you cannot do it, I can do it for you. This would be very helpful for south americans where the mange is one of the main reasons for people to abandon dogs in the streets.
Hope to be able to colaborate with my translation in order to spread the experiences. I just started to do 4 treatments last week with this remedy in 4 abandoned puppies. Hope to have success and send you the feed back later.
EC: Hi Monica,
That is a fantastic idea, thank you for suggesting it. The best we can do at the moment is to use Google's English to Spanish Translator. If you see anything that needs to be corrected, please let us know...
The advice for using Borax for the Treatment of Mange and other Mites is very good however there seems to be some confusion so I hope to clarify the situation.
1) If your dog has mites then you can be sure that they are present in the whole of the area that your dog uses and that in a lot of cases the humans have them too. You can test if you have mites (scabies) if you itch after having a bath or at night when you go to bed.
2) You have to treat the whole of the above at the same time or you will have a cycle of reinfestation from your pet to the house to you to your pet. So choose an action day and get everything ready for your war on mites.
3) In the case of your house, all beds, sofas, carpets, cusions etc that are too big to be washed including rugs and carpets should be treat with the borax solution or lime sulphur and covered in strong plastic sheeting using duct tape. I know its a lot of bother but its cheaper than throwing them outside and burning them.
4)Having taken the pets outside, Make up the solution of Borax using the following equivalents (one cup hydrogen peroxide and two cups water first and then the 9 teaspoons or 3 tablespoons of borax put in last. let the borax dissolved) This translates for bulk production as:- The borax mange treatment is made by filling a five-gallon bucket with warm water and then adding a 200 milliliter bottle of three percent hydrogen peroxide. Finally add borax laundry booster until full saturation is achieved. This means when borax is added to the water, rather than dissolving, it sinks to the bottom of the bucket.
5) Hoover and damp dust everything using the above solution that has been recomended. Then seal all the relavant soft covered furniture (sofas), soft furnishings, beds and matresses and finally cover carpets with foundation plastic using duct tape to seal the edges.
6) Wash out a kitchen detergent bottle that has a squirty spray handle on it and fill it with the borax solution. In the yard, spray the whole of the underside of the dog or other animal, you may have to refil the bottle several times for large animals. when you have reached saturation point on the underside change the spray bottle over to the large sponge and use this to pour the solution on the animals back from neck to tail. Finally we come to the head and the moste sensitive area around the eyes. First put a drop mineral oil in the eyes, then use cottonwool balls dipped in the solution and go over the face very gently and very carefully around the eyes. Pay particular attention to the ears, the muzel and under the chin making sure that they are saturated down to the skin.
7) Lovely now the house is sorted and the animals are treated there is just the humans to attend to. Though dog mites including mange (dog scabies) cannot live and reproduce on humans for more than a few days they can live long enough to reinfest the animal when you groom or stroke it. So, I am afraid its the full body treatment for the whole of the family. You can uese any of the following, Derbac M, Quellada M, Lyclear Dermal or a 30 gram tube of 5% permethrin cream. Make sure that you cover every bit of skin area and under the feet and rub it into your finger and toe nails too. The human treatment should be done at weekly intervals. Do not use the same incetacide more than three times in three weeks. Of couse if you dont mind a tinted skin, you can easily use the borax treatment on yourself.
8) The borax treatment on the animal should be done every three to four days until the mites are completely cleared and then for ten days after the last signs are gone.
9) During the treatment period, all members of the family should handle the animals only when wearing rubber gloves. Animals should be trained not to go on any furniture during this time. Children should be discouraged from wrestling or cuddling the animal until it is given the all clear.
10) If you find that after this you or your animal is still showing signs of infection then you must enquire with your family to asertain who is not following the rules.
11) When your animal has been clear for ten days you can take the plastic off of your funiture and give them a good hoover. (Don't forget to wash the hoover and its pipes with borax before using it.)
Hello, with mange, I am wondering how often the environment needs to be treated?