Then in October (2 months later) I started having some red spots on my stomach which later started to itch. I tend to have sensitive skin so I just rubbed some lotion and hydrocortizone which did not help. Over the next week the rashes and red spots started to get extremely itchy and spread to my lower back. At this point if I scratched them they were small welts similar to that of a mosquito bite. At that time due to the Los Angeles trip the one thing that went to my mind was bed bugs. I went crazy cleaning the house and even wore a long sleeve shirt and tight leggings to bed to see if they would bite on the covered areas. I then started to have more rashes and bumps. For some reason when I was searching for information on bed bugs, scabies came up. All the symptoms lead up to scabies. I was mortified with all the information I was finding. There was a ton of information I didnt know where to start , in fact I went crazy purchasing any type of oils, borax, hydrogen peroxide, grape and coconut oil, acetone, sea salt. I first went to the doctor and she seemed like it wasnt important in fact I told her I felt it was scabies. She simply prescribed the permethrin cream 5%. I went out and got the cream but had my boyfriend use it since he has less patience than myself. I wanted to use the all natural treatment. Here is what I did:
In addition I took tumeric supplements and drank 1 teaspoon of organic apple cider vinegar (diluted in water) twice a day every day for 2 weeks. Supposedly this will adjust your bodys ph level/acidity and make your body not pleasing to the mites. Also refrain from eating sugar and chocolate, try to eat healthy.
As far as cleaning I did not go crazy like all the other posts suggest. After I did steps 1-3 I took all the bed sheets and washed it in hot water with my regular detergent and a cup of borax. I then put it in the dryer for at least 45 minutes in high setting. Washed all the clothing that was worn in the last 2 weeks (not the ones in the closet). Anything that couldnt be washed I put in garbage bags and made them air tight. I put those in the garage for 1-2 weeks. I sprinked borax all over the carpets, floors, and mattresses for 24 hours, then vaccuumed everthing. Before going to work in the morning I took a regular spray bottle and diluted 1/2 of hydrogen peroxide, 1/2 water, 50 drops of clove oil, lemon grass oil, orange oil, neem oil. I sprayed the mattress, pillows, couches, and everything I can I sprayed with the solution. I washed towels, clothing, and bedding used everyday for 5 days straight. After 5 days I sprayed the solution and vaccumed once a week. I did spray the solution on everything every 3 days and will continue to do so for the next 30 days. Large bedding and comfortors that could not be washed , I sprayed with the solution and put in the dryer for 45 mintues.
The aftermath and still hoping I am 100% scabies free. I started treatment/cleaning on Oct 23st, as of today it will be 3 weeks. The itching drastically went down after 1 week just out of no where it subsided but did not completely stop. The second week it gets better but you may think nothing worked but it actually is. Now into my 3rd week the rashes have started to almost completely disappear and the ithcing is at a bare minimum. The itching and rashes will continue in weeks 1-3 but dont freak out thinking you are reinfested as long as you keep with steps 1-3 and cleaning every couple days eventually the mites in your skin and surroundings will die off. Also be aware your skin will be extremely sensitive in some parts (for me my arms, legs, and neck) after 1-2 weeks from the natural oils ( I applied directly in many areas). ANytime I saw a new red bump I rubbed hand sanitizer and the oils directly on it. I thought I as reinfested but I got some form of eczema or skin irritation ( I just used plain coconut/grape seed oil with hydrocortizone in those areas and used a lesser concentration of oils).
By the way my boyfriend did the permethrin 5% treatment, he did it one time and I chose the all natural way. He had extreme itchiness the night he applied the cream, almost unbearable itchiness for the next 2 nights. On the 3rd night it subsided. I had him do steps 1-3 as well after the permethrin treatment just to be sure and his itching has greatly decreased. He isnt as diligent as I was with steps 1-3 but I know he is closer to being 100% cured as well. In addition I had my son who did not show signs of itching or rashes use the sulphur soap once a day and apply the oil in step 3 (minimal treatment just in case). In my 3rd week I dont see any new bumps, still random itching in certain areas but I think its from my skin getting sensitive with all the treatments. I only shower once a day in the sulphur soap, scrub with sea salt once a day, and apply the oil mix 1-2 times a day. I will continue to do this till all the redness/rashes/and itching disapear, I plan for 45 days as a precaution.
The biggest thing whether you are religous or not is to pray /pray/pray (trust me on this) ; stay diligent on the cleaning and treatments; just wait as you have no control over time. It will start to get better after 7 days. Goodluck, this thing can be beat, stay positive!
Bleach and Water
Red Lavender Tincture
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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Bleach and Water
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
That said, there are a number of things written online about modalities that have helped. The biggest concern is that your child is very young, and so you must treat with care, and under a doctor's supervision.
Is the child breasfed? Was the child only recently given solid foods? There is the possibility of dealing with a food allergy. I would check the listings on this site under both, if they are there.
I believe that anything that kills parasites, or builds immunity could help. There is something called Clarkia, which is essentially clove, wormwood, black walnut hulls. Again, I do not know if safe for an infant, so check with M. D. I had to inform my doctor about Morgellon's, who had no idea, and then he later said, "Everyone has it."
Colloidial silver may help. Essiac tea helps. I have had much success with Vit C lately, and also believe in drinking warm water and lemon. Morgellons hates coconut oil... Capsules, on a spoon, or topically. Sulphur soap is very soothing. Beta Glucans of various types seem to help. I have used many types, and like Immutol. Some use diatomaceous earth (DE). You must proceed with caution with a baby, and perhaps see a specialist or dermatologist. I would almost suggest staying with breastfeeding as much as possible.
I am learning much about undenatured, grass-fed origin, whey and glutathione, and believe that it approximates, or is, the best part of raw milk, which is an incredible healer, based on old books now out of print, one of which I just finished reading. Revelation speak about this: "They shall all eat whey."
No sugar, no bread, no juice. Pineapple is a good anti-parasitical, especially the hard inner core... Can chew on it or juice it. Lots of fresh organic veges and good water, not tap. Tap has flouride which destroys the immune system. That's enough for now. Know that many people are also suffering with this, worldwide, and is possibly contagious, or so it appears, or else only becomes a problem with weakened immune systems. After all that, perhaps it is just scabies, which is much easier to heal, by cleanliness and enzymes spray. But I doubt it. Remember that knowledge is power. Babe in prayers. --T.
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Washing Soda
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
If this is for a diaper rash, you could try a Lemon and warm water soak, with some Essiac tea (goes by FlorEssence also) splashed in, and a couple of drops of Rosemary Oil. This could really help. Keep the soaking water out of baby's hands due to hand-to-eye impulse.
I have had great success with yeast with this warm soak. Don't use the rosemary or lemon unless you will keep the soak water out of childs reach and eyes! One way is to do a soaked compress on baby's bottom, and so avoid the splashing into eyes concern alltogether. --T.
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax Bath, Bleach Bath
Washing Soda
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Bleach and Water
Bleach and Water
Hydrogen Peroxide, Anti- Itch Cream, Whitening Toothpaste
Castor Oil
Epsom Salt
The bleach baths also work on the non adult ones. Very few things work when bird mites are in your scalp. I'm so confused. I dont know what I have the more I think of it. I tried borox, sulfur, bug spray hot bath, heair dryer, toothpaste before the recent post for tooth paste, tea tree oil, turpintine oil, dawn dish liquid, neem oil and soap, lemon greass oil, apple cider vinager, ivermectin horse past, Flagyl pills, bitter melon pills, olive leafe pills, Dr, Hulda Clarcks parasite cleanse with black walnut, wormwood and freash grownd cloves, sauna, two hour soak in _____ baking soda deteregent for laundry, Quassia Amuara from a lice treatement, peroxide (peroxide does get them out of my ears when I leave in for 20 min) Diatomatious earth in bedding, carpet, hair and cloths, clove oil (made my scalp peel in huge chunks) Lysol spray and toilet bowl cleaner, barbarsol, alcholol 91%, finger nail polish remover, sun laundry detergent with color safe bleach as reccamended by the morgellons page, pine tar soap, pennyroyal oil, windex on the scalp soap for dogs, advantix permetherin 45% for dogs : (
Next on the list to try, Teds Borax in water, drank all day, colloidal silver, actual pine-tar-resin, actual Balsalm of Paru oil or resin, boiled wood chips from Quassia Amaura boiled strong in water then that water simmered in oil till the water is gone and oil remains, Still using the neem oil as it messes with their reproductive cycle.
The most valuable thing you mentioned is the faith. I KNOW I will get over this scalp mite infestation! I just have to make it happen! I have a ton of lemon oil in my hair now and it is burning! ITs near the point of panic but not there yet. If it gets to be too much, NEVER use water to rinse, douce with coconut. Olive or baby oil to dilute. Learned the hard way and the water opened the pores to more inteanse burning!
Ted, if there is ever a situation where one is running out of options or ideas its here. I've tried nearly everything. Very tired now. Gonna to take a bleach bath but with out the bleach and using chlorine for swimming pools and Sodium cabonate not to be confused with sodium Bicarmonate. There is a difference. Seems like the carbonate works better.
There is no way I can heal this and not come back to post what will have worked.
later.
Epsom Salt
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I had over a dozen large crusted scabies spots on my arms and legs... Dozens more smaller ones. I did some landscaping for a friend and we dug out a flower bed no one had touched for 20 years. I got poison ivy too (or pehaps not since I had never been allergic to it before), but didn't realize the scabies for a few days... Thought it was all just poison ivy at first. I 've had scabies before so I knew what they looked like, but the crusted scabies, or Norwegian scabies, is just the same mite but many, many, MANY of them. My skin was raised up, or very swollen in spots, with some diameters much larger than a silver dollar.
I used the borax and peroxide baths, omitting the peroxide alot, since I had no income for a while. I lost 3 jobs because I looked so awful and didn't want to contaminate others. I put myself in quarantine for about 6 weeks. My kids got small spots but I killed those right away. I was taking 5-6 borax baths in a 24 hour period, scrubbing down with it in the hottest water I could stand (my tolerance went up considerably over 6 weeks) and letting it dry before soaking. I could tell it was helping but needed something else. I used essential oils also- lavender, tea tree, eucalyptus globulus, rosemary, orange, others... and pennyroyal, which is highly toxic. It can shut down your kidneys so make sure you cleanse with a detox tea after and only use it once a week. I had them so bad I felt sick, so I detoxed my liver and kidneys with herbal teas- detoxing also helps your body deal with the little buggers! Also MSM, since it contains sulfur, I took twice everyday. I figured that, like candida, they thrive in an acidic atmospere, so I alkalized with cucumber and lemon water. I ate alkalizing vegetables and cut out all meat, sugar and alcohol. I ate a spoonful of coconut oil everyday, and used it topically to help my dried-out skin. I also used a capful of bleach and a toothbrush and scrubbed the spots occasionally, but I could tell that was making me sick too.
So, I went back online seeking other cures. The more cures I used, the more results I got. I feel that the Epsom salts really put the nail in the scabies' coffin, so to speak. I alternated borax baths with Epsoms baths, eventually just using the Epsoms salts, scrubbing myself with the salts and letting it dry a while before soaking. That's when they really started to die off. They hate sulfur. Maybe magnesium too? The essential oils helped with killing the eggs so they'd quit coming back. When I got it in my eyes, I used hot, soaked green tea bags on them. I'm not sure if it was the heat or the tea but they left my eyes. Also swimming in the neighborhood pool that contained way too much bromine may also have helped! Hahaha
I also cleaned my house and bedding incessantly, like others suggested, placing plastic covers on everything, vacuuming everyday. It was exhausting, and I barely slept for 6 weeks.
Besides the physical ways of doing away with scabies, FAITH is absolutely the best thing I had going for me. Don't ever lose it!! Faith is EVERYTHING. Not religion, but a pure steadfast belief in what you want. It always works.
Hope this works for you as well!!! It was hell!! - but I have valuable experience now, and we all have trials to go through. Maybe mine was so I could help others, I don't know- but I truly hope you find your cure!! I have the battle scars to prove I WON!!!
Take care and God bless!!
Hydrogen Peroxide, Anti- Itch Cream, Whitening Toothpaste
Hydrogen Peroxide, Anti- Itch Cream, Whitening Toothpaste
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Heres the cure:
1.CLEAN WITH WARM SOAP AND WATER
2. APPLY PEROXIDE TO AFFECTED AREA
3.APPLY AN ANTI-ITCH CREAM (allow time to penetrate skin)
4..........................................................
......THEN APPLY WHITENING TOOTHPASTE TO AREA!
I know this sounds crazy! But after doing this for 3 days the symptoms associated with the 'scabies bug' ceased! The itch is gone, the healing happens rapidly, and I can sleep at night again!
After you've applied the toothpaste to the area, be sure to leave it on until the next day. Wash it off with warm water and soap. Re-apply at night and follow process for a few days. You'll be amazed at the results!
After going to the doctors numerous times for them to prescribe me.... Cures...... which never worked and cost me a fortune, this is a cheap cure for scabies!
Let me think about the costs....hmm...
Permethrin Cream..$120
toothpaste......$3
Permethrin is crap and costly! Doctors know nothing! They pump you full of drugs to see which works best!
This is a cure for me...... Toothpaste........ A whitening paste! You have a cool, tingling sensation after applying it, and sleep like hound dog!
Try it and add comments to this lovely and 'cheap cure for scabies'!!!!!!
Castor Oil
I slathered castor oil all over me, and before long little black specks started coming out of my pores. Scary at first, and yes it hurts slightly, as if lots of splinters are coming out. I also got tiny, clear, round grains of hard sandy stuff, along with amber versions of the same thing, tiny egg-shaped things and larger egg-shaped things. Very disturbing indeed. I know that some people will say that this is Morgellens, but at the moment I'm choosing to believe that these are various stages of mites and their droppings and eggs. Some other websites comfirm this, and one of my GPs said that they've heard of this happening with scabies.
So I figured that it's all much better out than in and I'm continuing to do it. I'm also using olive oil or coconut oil sometimes, they seems to work too, although I'm thinking that castor oil, as a thicker oil is probably smothering the little creatures more, and I think I'm seeing slightly more stuff come out when I use it.
After doing it a few times I am feeling some relief today, (although I'm by no means cured). This could be because there is less stuff inside irritating me, or simply because my skin is more moisturised, but I'm going to continue with this because it seems to be working.
I've also tried diatomaceous earth, which didn't work, sadly, even when I mixed it with grapeseed oil. I am drinking it though, 1 tsp in water each day, but I'm not sure that drinking it is effective for scabies, which isn't a stomach-related parasite.
And bleach baths also didn't seem to do much, although they did clear some burrows under my fingernail. I was pleasantly surprised by that! But don't seem to help other than that.
I also tried hydrogen peroxide and borax mixed with water. Also didn't work. Tea tree oil provides some temporary relief, and I bought some clove oil, but I'm reallly too scared to put it on my skin, even mixed heavily with oil.
I guess different things work for different people. Will carry on with the oils and report back.
As with any treatment, I have found it wise to ask oneself, do the possible benefits outweigh the risks? Just a thought.
Sulphur
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USE BORAX!!! take a borax bath and soak for 20 minutes. Then, get a spray bottle and fill with water and lots of borax. Shake it up good and spray yourself. I also used castor oil/borax paste and put all over myself. I woke up this morning and everything has changed! The places are GONE and my skin looks almost normal!! I spent SO much MONEY on that other stuff! ALSO, I finally listened and wrapped my mattress in plastic (buy a drop cloth at Lowe's). I was washing so much and spraying the bed, but didn't encase it in plastic. The clorax helped at first with the places, but never killed the eggs. Plus, my skin was getting raw and sore.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Clove Oil
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After battling scabies for nearly a year-including several rounds of doctor-prescribed meds, assorted veterinary medicines, and miscellaneous home remedies that did not work, I discovered the clove BUD oil remedy study. I started the test myself by ordering a few bottles of clove BUD oil (which is what the study used) and set out for a cure. In the meantime, my relative continued using another remedy.
Instead of mixing the clove with oil (which I found was messy, created even more of a laundry mess, and became a hazard when bathing), I mixed the clove bud oil with a THIN moisturizing lotion for extra-dry skin that I found at a dollar store.
I poured a half-bottle of the lotion into a margarine tub (later I used an extra bottle) and added about 20-30 drops of the clove oil. I shook it well and allowed it to sit for several hours before applying. I then showered and thoroughly exfoliated--and then I applied this clove-lotion blend from toes to neck (and ALL crevices in between! ) while the body was still damp. I then air-dried--no toweling off! The body MUST be covered with the lotion 24-7. The clove bud oil is not only a natural repellant, it also penetrates the skin surface and hair follicles, so you want to keep as much of it on your body as possible at all times.
(HUGE TIP: While you are undergoing this treatment, apply the lotion after each shower--preferably twice each day, including before bed. DO NOT CHANGE CLOTHES ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN TUB OR SHOWER! Bag and tie dirty clothes immediately until washed.)
And regardless of what the "books" say, scabies DO infest the hair-and will actually burrow into hair follicles. Always apply shampoo to dry hair--and leave on as long as possible before rinsing. THEN apply a thick conditioner (add a little clove oil) and cover your head with a plastic shower cap. Sleep in it--and rinse out in the a. M. I was desperate enough to put the clove lotion on my head as well--slept in a plastic cap--and got quick results in eliminating the critters there.
I used a Q-tip with straight clove bud oil on any tracks or visible signs of the infestation. If I felt something crawling, I applied either straight clove oil to an extended area of the "crawling" or applied an additional coating of the lotion. (If you have a strong magnifying glass, check areas where there are tracks and where you have applied straight clove bud oil. You will see gas bubbles just beneath the skin indicating the critters and eggs are dead or dying.)
I also coated brows, lashes, nostrils, and ears with petroleum jelly before bed every night--and, if facial skin could tolerate it, also applied the clove bud lotion to the face.
Within a couple of days, the mites were running for cover. If you did not start out with the critters in the "private areas" previously, they will make a bee-line to escape the lotion now and you will feel them in the crease of the legs, waist areas, buttocks, etc. In fact, our experience taught us that you may not THINK you have them there--but you do. We used a slightly diluted lotion on those sensitive areas (even added a little diatamaceous earth to the lotion in the beginning to increase adhesion of the lotion. ) It's important to keep the area coated at all times in the beginning. The sudden surge in itching and crawling told me that had been a hiding place for quite a while and nights were a bit uncomfortable until I got a handle on them.
Within 2 weeks, there was a noticeable decrease in numbers and life became more bearable. I felt comfortable enough with the progress to encourage my relative to also begin the treatment. She was suffering a far more serious infestation because she was the one initially infected. She declined and continued on with her own remedies, still desperate.
By the end of the month, I knew I was on the right track and INSISTED that she start using my "home remedy. " She did--and had the SAME astounding results within 2 weeks! The relief was so tremendous that I couldn't tear her away from continuing the experiment!
It took time because the infestations were so advanced, but within 3-4 months, we were confident enough to declare ourselves CURED. Not "sorta" or "kinda" cured--but cured! I could finally put bed linen back on the bed and sleep without being tormented.
Still, I continued with the scrupulous laundry/sanitation practices we'd been using to ensure no critters had escaped, including treating the car with permethrin spray created by mixing 1 tube of a 45% "spot on" over-the-counter flea and tick solution with 1 cup of water. This was misted on the car from top to bottom about once each 2 weeks, along with frequent vacuuming. This remedy came as the result of spraying borax in the vehicles--which quickly corroded metal parts. (CAUTION: DO NOT USE PERMETHRIN ON FURNISHINGS OR CARPET IF YOU HAVE CATS--IT CAN BE FATAL! )
We also discovered that hot water washing was not necessary and that alone resulted in huge energy savings. A cold-water soaking in any detergent for several hours or preferably overnight, along with 1-2 cups of ammonia in the soak water, worked better than borax or other recommended remedies and did not damage clothes. This is highly recommended for your bed linens and towels. We continued 30 minutes to 1 hour high-heat drying to be on the safe side.
We also discovered that you must remove and soak in hot soapy water any earrings, jewelry, eye glasses, combs, hair brushes, and other items after wearing or using them ONCE. Let them soak at least an hour, then rinse and air dry. Scabies will set up house in hinges and nooks of these items. During the duration of the treatment, I gave up wearing a watch as well.
Freeze all makeup, wallets, purses, belts, makeup bags EVERY DAY. Wash and then freeze makeup brushes each time they are used, including removing brushes from mascara before freezing. Books and magazines should be put in plastic bags with a few mothballs--or freeze them. Cell and home phones, remotes, etc. , should be cleaned every day with germicidal wipes--and wash and freeze the cell phone covers as well. This may seem to be overboard, but ANYTHING you carry or touch can spread the critters.
If I can warn against anything, it is giving up too soon and jumping from one remedy to another in hope of faster results. Remember, you are having to eliminate the entire life cycle of generations of these critters that have already infested your body. It's going to take time to eliminate them all, because new ones are constantly maturing. We saw a change within 2 weeks--and then it began improving drastically from that point. We stuck with the regimen--and it worked when nothing else we tried did.
I would strongly encourage anyone struggling with this terrible infestation to at least give it a try--and stick with it for at least a month! It works!
Multiple Remedies
The first day was 16 hours straight of deep cleaning (instructions follow). Normally, only bedding and clothing is washed, but I had one day off of work to knock it out. I used the collective wisdom found here and on other websites, and this is what we did:
for my affected daughter, I rubbed her down with the following (each seperately, in this order):
* Alcohol-based hand sanitizer;
* Lavender oil;
* Extra Virgin Coconut oil (edible, not a beauty product)--into which I mixed lavender oil and tea tree oil;
* Tea tree oil;
* Let sit x 30 min, then had her soak in a hot bath with Borax (in the laundry detergent aisle).
For the rest of my un-affected family, I rubbed us down with the Coconut Oil/Lavender oil/ Tea Tree oil mixture, let sit x 30 min. , then soaked in the Borax bath.
For my affected daughter, I treated her 3 x the first day (I only used the hand sanitizer the first time, as I am not a fan of this stuff). I let it soak over night. She was scrubbed down the next morning. For days 2-4 she was treated morning and night, but I no longer scrubbed her down. I added orange oil on the 2nd day (didn't have it the first day). I put tea tree directly on the affected areas, then covered her with a Coconut Oil/Tea Tree/Orange Oil/ Lavender mixture. (My husban is a functional medicine doc, and said there is no advantage to the seperate layers--he says folks just buy into more complicated procedures! )
In addition, Day 1: I vacuumed all soft surfaces, washed all bedding in the household, swept and vacuumed hardwood/tile floors, used bleach-water on all hardwood/tile floors, wrapped my affected daughter's matress in heavy plastic sheeting and duct tape, put all soft toys/pillows through the washer/dryer OR through a hot dryer OR in a bag in the freezer. Also, I set my vacuum out doors x 3 days (after I emptied it at the outside dumpster), changed my affected daughters bedding nightly for 4 nights, frequently put tea tree oil on the affected sites (on my daughter). In addition, I frequently sprayed pillows, soft furniture, curtains and matresses down with a water-based solution with approx. 30 drops each of lavendar, orange oil, and tea tree oil--put with 16 oz. Of water in a spray bottle, shake before use. (I've been asked if it stained--I did not notice any stains.)
The itching does continue for a while, but the 'sores' looked better by the 2nd day. I did let my daughter use benadryl nightly for itching x 3-4 days. She liked being rubbed down! We talked about it being like a spa. Note: the only places I did not rub her down were her face and the soles of her feet! I wish you all the best!!!
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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Tonight is my first attempt at the Bleach/Peroxide bath and this is the first I have not wanted to peel my skin off in days. After the bath I took a hot scrub shower, and then sprayed myself with a water/bleach mix(4/1) and dryed with a hair dryer. Then slathered in tea tree oil.
I hope that everyone tries this. INSTANTLY better. Now begins the battle of cleaning, cleaning, cleaning!
But thank you to everyone who shared an alternative to doctors and pesticides.
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start with your car, spray car with orange oil and alcohol mixture do not miss any areas, park in the sun and close all window do not return to car for 7 days.
Dry clothes and bedding, on high heat daily, be sure to spray entire living area with orange oil combined with rubbing alcohol daily. If you have carpet the orange oil will leave bleached out spots, make sure the orange oil scent overwhelms the alcohol in the mixture.
Be sure to remove all bedding, pillow cases, mattress covers etc, spray with mixture dry on high heat for at least 30 mins spray entire bed and do not sleep on bedwhile treating self and living areas for 7 days, sleep on the floor, also before going to bed cover entire bogy with orange and vaseline mixture for at least 3 days.
after seven days if possible spray entire living area of course then leave home for 2 weeks or more.
Bleach
If you get lucky and ask your doctor for ivermectin( aka Stromectol ) ask him to give at least 3 doses at 250mc per kilo. Take it in the evening and do not eat 3hours prior the dose. Only drink grapefruit before and after and that will extend the efficacy of this med. Take it with any oil I took fish oil like 4 pills and this is very information do not take a shower for 2 days and keep the permethrin for 24 hours or more. 12 hours is not enough. Scabies in America are becoming resistant to permethirn. Everyone knows that.
Now I am also doing bleach baths and after the bath I am doing a 8 hour castor oil with Tea tree oil. Castor oil suffocated them big time. I did it. I did the castor for the first time last night bc I wanted to know if I was cured or not, due the lack of tracks bites etc and itchness but surely enough I was shocked bc once you do the castor oil wait like 15 minutes and they go crazy!!!!! The good thing about these bastards is that they need oxygen u cut that and you kill a lot. Now you have to continue this for like 6 weeks due to eggs.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Any ways. We have been using cold pressed neem oil twice a day for the past week or two & it was really doing a good job at controlling it, but it's getting worse. So we decided to start taking the HP & Borax baths. The first time I took the bath I did not air dry & then used the neem oil head to toe. Everything seemed fine. Two days later I was able to make the time for a second bath. I air dried this time & used a lot of neem oil. The next day I cleaned an entire basement in sweat pants & a hoodie (which really opened up my pores, ) noticed a little redness on my skin, especially my chest & neck. After cleaning I took a hot shower (also really opening up my pores) & used more neem oil after I dried off with a towel, this time I think I used just a tad too much on my chest & neck. I was very red by the time I finished but didn't notice anything wrong until later that night when my neck & chest were scary red & I had odd bumps every where. I got so confused as to whether it was just the reaction or if all those little red bumps were scabies that just became visible all of a sudden. I showered again before bed to see if it would help the reaction & the next morning rubbed coconut oil on me to soothe the itch & to see how my skin might react. Around one in the morning I took some benadryl to reduce the redness & bumps. It only helped a little so I went to the ER at about 7 in the morning to see if there was any advice a doctor might have, of course it's usually not much help. I can NOT go through this again, it's miserable, as any one with scabies would know. Right now I'm struggling with an allergic reaction & scabies & fleas. I am planning to try the borax but on a smaller area (had to learn the hard way) to see if it is what caused the reaction. Or just the combo of everything I had on my skin. I gave my skin a break from everything, which worries me a bit considering how quickly scabies appear but I don't want to make anything worse for my skin!
So my point to this post is to always test a product before getting into a hot bath with it & be more cautious about the things you put on your skin. Especially if you're like me with sensitive skin. It sucks to have scabies. But it sucks even more to have scabies & then a bad allergic reaction. I really wish the best of luck to any one with this infestation. The first time I didn't even know what it was till three months later (thanks to an idiot doctor who told me I was fine & had no idea what was wrong -_-). I will be paranoid for probably the rest of my life. I plan to keep up the cleaning & hopefully I can continue my treatment if my skin heals, for about a month if not the rest of my summer. Maybe I'll have a nice summer next year?
GOOD LUCK!
Tea Tree Oil
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Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Water
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Clove Oil
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Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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Essential Oils
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Multiple Remedies
Sulphur
Sulfur soap is an alternative you can buy in the 99cent stores or drug stores. 35% is best. Until you find it, soak in the tub with borax for an hour or so and you will sleep well but you have to keep doing it.
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3/4 tsp clove oil mixed with 4 TBS olive oil
(Be careful: I made a too-potent blend and burned my skin, and the healing process was maybe even worse than the scabies! But at the 6% ratio I note above, I had no problem.)
I followed the protocols suggested in many of the postings here for laundry, bedding, bathing and general disinfecting. MMS bath 3x/day, followed by application of the clove/olive oil mixture (I also used almond and coconut oils). Apply it ALL over your body, even if you only see signs of scabies on your arm, e.g. also, I used a Q-tip and applied the undiluted oil directly onto the "bump" (I didn't put the undiluted oil on my uninfested skin).
I had scabies for over a year and by the time I tuned in to clove oil, they ranged from my ankles up to my chin! (I don't suppose details of my long mind-deranging ordeal are necessary, just imagine.)
If you want more information re the protocols I used (and helpful info from others), you can find them on Amazon.com under "Dermisil for Scabies, " 3-star review by Jennifer. As you might guess, I am not recommending this product, but it's where I first started out and because scabies are sooo horrible, I gave as much info as I could during my ordeal in order to be helpful to others.
Eternal (and I mean this) thanks to lorisayshey from San Diego (under the heading Citrus Mouthwash, 8/18/11) and Cathrine from Perth, Western Australia (under the heading Clove Oil, 8/28/11) for posting the link to the Australian study of the effects of clove oil on permethrin-resistant scabies. The link is:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0012079
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Tea Tree Oil
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Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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I took the permithrin and it didn't appear to be working as they cleared and seemed to come back in my backside within the week. I took more and more (as I was worried about infecting people) and it seemed to keep them at bay, I then took ivermectin tablets first lot then 7 days later with permithrin(lyclear), we cleaned our flat everyday from the moment we realised, bagged our beds and furniture and bleached all day, let off 3 pemithrin bombs, washed everything and dried in hot dryer for min 30 minutes each day, washed clothes and soaked in tea tree oil and boiling hot water and washed toilet seat with bleach after every use. It cost a fortune! I seemed to be getting new nodules coming up on my behind again and on my arms. I was devastated. I then tried bleach baths with hydrogen pyroxide and then borax baths with hydrogen peroxide, and covered myself with clove oil and olive oil. The clove oil burned so badly it was terrible.
I then finally was referred to a dermatologist and he checked everything and said I didn't have scabies at all, by the way you cant see them at all, they are very very small and you can't see them running and they are not black, that must be something else, I was advised the new nodules coming to the surface and the severe itching as an allergic reaction to the permithrin, the sever itching and crawling feeling in my backside was also due to burning it with the soaks I was doing and the clove oil and the allergic reaction, so I stopped everything and then tried to repair my completely damaged skin. It is working, the bits I saw in the bath as I drained the water were dead skin cells, my backside is finally healing and I can now see where I have burnt it, and my nodules are disappearing. My major concern that the scabies weren't dying was incorrect, I had a severe allergic reaction to the permithrin and then I was burning my skin off with the bath soaks. I have been told the nodules may continue to show for up to a year as I have sensitive skin and I have damaged it so badly. I think I was going a little crazy and to be honest I was trying everything.
Once I stopped damaging my skin I have started to repair. My skin on my backside is now peeling off which is causing the itch. So please listen to your dermatologist, he has a microscope and could see if there were any burrows or scabies, there weren't, and I also had skin scrapings all on the new nodules that were appearing, all were clear and to be honest he was correct. the ivermectin tablets worked, so when you are diagnosed as clear, keep ensuring you clean thoroughly and ensure that you cant be reinfested. Do not visit people to infect them as it is just not a nice thing to do to anybody. And have hope that your skin is just repairing itself and has had an allergic reaction. I have read my story from 5 people on these forums, and I am hoping my story will help other people like me experiencing an allergic reaction to the pesticides to trust that you are free of these awful things and that you don't have to have bleach baths and burn your skin to get rid of them. Also tea tree oil did sooth the itch, but the clove oil has to be diluted as it burnt me so very badly.
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Noxzema
Essential Oils
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Orange Oil
Ingredients:
Orange peels. A ton.
Vinegar. Synthetic stuff is fine to use.
Water
Instructions:
1. Fill a glass jar with orange peels... [EC: due to copyright considerations, for further instructions please visit the website listed below]
I haven't tried it yet on toilets and bathtubs, but I have no doubt it will work.
Feel happy knowing that you've got a really powerful
P. S. You can also make this with tangerine or clementine peels. I made mine with a mixture of orange and clementine peels. Cheap to make!!!
Here is the link
http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2010/11/homemade-orange-cleaner.html
I'm guessing white vinegar!!!
Washing Soda
Ingredients
Baking Soda
Instructions
1. Fill a wide baking dish with baking soda... [EC: due to copyright considerations, for further instructions please visit the website listed below]
here is the link!!!
http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2011/01/homemade-washing-soda.html
Bleach
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So thanks to all the research online, I came across here. Read everyones stories and let me tell you, I know how it feels to have these disgusting things crawling around in your skin. It's mortifying and I will ever be the same.
When I came home from the first doctor visit I rushed to have everything washed in HOT water. I began to start washing piece by piece every single clothing we had and that became impossible. So now we have collected only a few pieces of clothing that we can wear over and over after washing over and over, manly pj's because we have been confined to these apartment walls. Every other piece of clothing and blanket I put in plastic bags tightly sealed and in front of the sun. They have to be on the skin to survive right? In those bags they will stay for a week so they can die completely!
I started up my bath and dropped a cup of bleach with the hottest water our bodies could take, following with sitting in there for a good 15-20 minutes. Washed our bodies with Sulfur soap and a all natural lavender soup to rinse off with. And when we got out we lightly dried ourselves and again rubbed some more bleach and water mixer, applying more amounts in the places where we both needed the most. I slept through the night for the first time in a month after doing this. Minor itches here and there, yes. The results are there, BLEACH is the cure for these things. Constant day to day cleaning of everything in your home and everything you touch. We washed and cleaned the carpets as an obsession that maybe they were all over the carpet. Now everything I clean I wipe down with bleach!
At first I found all of this very tiring but it's a routine one literally has to make part of their life to get rid of this condition. I have never came across with anyone besides my boyfriend and myself who has experienced this and I don't ever wish it upon anyone!
Right now we are going through the baths and constant cleaning to fight these off and little by little I know these suckers will give up with my "bleaching baths," as I like to call them.
I hope this is helpful to some like it was so very helpful to me! Many good lucks go out the the people experiencing this and trying to find ways to get rid of these suckers. Above all have faith that things will get better and that this will pass:)