Scabies: Andrographis paniculata internally as tea or tablets. Very good. Hemp oil with vinegar.
You must you must treat the whole household and clean everything including clothes shoes etc.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
This is in response to Earthdweller Mo. I have coconut oil but where did you find sulfur powder? Did you put this mix on your skin before or after showering? Did you leave it on while you slept? Or wash it off after a duration of time. I'm in desperate need of advice! Thanks.
Epsom Salts
So sorry for you, you did not mention whether you were using the cleansing regiment, if you are not maybe doing so would get you the results you want and need
Clove Oil
How can you possibly be "finding" these mites? In your bath towel, in your daughter's shirt, etc.
They are supposed to be invisible to the naked eye, and I have yet to see one (despite all the evidence of them).
Neem and Tea Tree
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I keep getting these itchy bumps all in a row between the webbing of my fingers especially while sleeping. At first I thought I got poison ivy but in time it became apparent they were probably related to some bug. I did some research and scabies seemed to be the closest fit. Piecing together information on earth clinic I came up with a plan as I did not want to use pharmaceutical pesticides over my whole body which I heard often didn't even work. At first I took super hot baths which seemed to help but did not knock everything else. Then I used tiger balm on the itchy bumps and also dipped my hands in hot hot water as that is primarily where the infection was. Then I got some tea tree ointment and added glove & neem liberally treating the affected areas. Finally I alternated between tea tree oil soap and neem soap every other day. Between this and the ointment I put on it seemed to wipe things out.
Thank you, JohnMac,for the very informative post.
Jess didn't really add anything to it.
A controlled, blind study of dozens of patients (as you cited), is a hundred times more reliable than 15 or so self-reported, anecdotal stories from people who frequent Earthclinic.
Though this website is a god-send,
I'm not so quick to ignore a controlled, blind study.
Most people on here (including myself), may click "Yea" to bleach bath, and attribute the cure to the bleach bath (as I did), but I also used Permethrin a couple days before the bleach bath. This is probably true for many others here--so it adds confounding variables.
That's why we need controls.
Bleach and Water
In reply to Winning:
Yes, I suppose it's possible with my method (leaving your home for a few days and staying at a hotel--since they die without a human host after a few days) that you'd bring the mites with you.
However, you could bring bleach with you and immediately take a bleach bath in the hotel room.
Another potential problem with my method (haven't tried it--I only took bleach baths for a few days and that did it),
is the eggs.
Not sure if the eggs survive longer than 48 hours without a human host, say, in the carpet.
If that's the case, you'd have to be absent for as long as it takes for the eggs to die too; or as long as it takes for them to hatch, then die (without you).
One more idea. There's now something called AHP (Accelerated Hydrogen Peroxide).
Since HP is one of the best cures according to the reviews on this site, and AHP works MUCH faster than HP as a disinfectant (hospitals all across USA are changing to AHP because it's the perfect cleaner and disinfectant, disinfects 10 times faster than bleach or lysol or anything). Then maybe AHP would work even better for the scabies.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Fran, You might be interested to know about use of clove bud essential oil used in a carrier oil for scabies. Clove oil on its own will burn!
See this article for more info:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0012079
The article details a study done on permethrin-resistant scabies. The results showed that a 6% clove oil mix with other oil killed the scabies within 15 minutes.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
I need to begin scabies bathing treatment - but I am confused by all the different amounts and strengths of borax, hydrogen peroxide, bleach, etc. that others report success with:
2 C. borax, 1 C. 3% hydrogen peroxide, etc.
1 C. borax, 1 C. 35% hydrogen peroxide, etc.
Immerse hair 10 min.?
Can you give basic amounts to start with in hot bath - duration 30 minutes?
General Feedback
How did u use sulphur? What was your protocol? Thank you!!!
Multiple Remedies
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I'm still waiting to hear from my doctor about my culture, but after extensive cleansing, and diligent treatments, I believe I have killed off all signs of scabies.
I am a 20 year-old diabetic, who thought the constant itching was a result of my new insulin prescribed...wrong. I went to the ER due to severe itching which scabbed over and even infected certain wounds. They prescribed benedryl, claritin, and a steroid, which only made things worse for my auto-immune disease. Itching still going on full-throttle.
Finally went to my derm, who checked my body and saw the scabbing all over. She took a culture of my dead skin flakes, and microscoped these little suckers - scabies. I was disgusted, and mortified. However, I am one of the cleanest people I know. I am a huge believer in medicine, and doctors, as I am a healthcare professional myself. But it doesn't matter how clean you are, you ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO SCABIES regardless of your circumstances.
I used the permethrin 5% cream, prescribed to me, which seemed to immediately work overnight, however, that kills the first generation of scabies. They are constantly laying eggs, which are the little bumps all over your skin. I still kept itching, which is normal, due to the allergic reaction your body has to foreign mites in your system.
I was eager to rid them completely, so I created a super intense killing process...if you want to kill these pests, you MUST follow this extensively.
I'm only on day 2 of my process, and I'm already feeling and seeing the results. NO MORE ITCHING, and all of my scabs have healed.
First, I have access to a sauna and pool. Yes, you can use the pool, even though it's public, the chlorine in the pool will destroy them before they can access another person. I've already asked my doctor. Scabies HATE heat, so I'm sauna-ing every day for about a half hour on HIGH, changing my clothing after each thing I do. After the sauna, I immediately jump in the pool. After the pool, buy the original kind of dawn, (it's blue) with concentrate. Lather BEFORE you get in the tub all over your body to exfoliate the skin with the dawn.
Put Petroleum jelly on your neck so the scabies can't get past your neck and infect your face. I take an extremely HOT bath with about 2 cups of BORAX, 1 Cup of Bleach, a handful of sea-salt crystals, 100% orange peel essential oil and clove oil.
Rinse off with a HOT shower after.
DO NOT USE A TOWEL TO DRY. Use the hair dryer to dry yourself off, AFTER you lysol it.
If you put on clothing, make sure it is either steam-cleaned before you put it near your body, or in the dryer for 30 minutes.
I like to add Diatomaceous Earth to my dryer for each load. Sprinkle Diatomaceous Earth daily to all bedding, pillows, carpets, and furniture, and vacuum daily.
When finished with your bath, I suggest you make a paste of diatomaceous earth and coconut oil, with a couple drops of clove and orange peel essential oils.
Dust DE on top of your paste when finished.
I've also made a spray that I use throughout the day consisting of 1 cup of hydrogen peroxide, 1 cup of bleach, 1 bottle of water (Distilled ONLY), clove oil, orange oil, and 1/2 cup of borax...which will dissolve.
I sleep on a tarp, which is a dollar at your local dollar store, and wrapped my pillows in garbage bags. If I use a blanket, It's dried 30 minutes while I bathe, and if used, I throw it in the wash every morning. Never use or wear the same material twice...always wash.
I steam all of my clothes daily, wear a mask and gloves when doing laundry and vacuuming the DE because it is very bad to inhale.
Also, if you can, there is a bug fumigator you can buy for your house, 1 per room. It's about $10 for 4. It contains the same ingredients as the cream prescribed by my doctor, and though it's not for mites, it will help kill them if they're in a house...just make sure you're gone for 4 hours while you fumigate. PLEASE comet your tubs and sinks after use, and scrub the heck out of them while wearing gloves.
I suggest shaving with disposable razors, and throwing away with each use.
Please be diligent. It's worth taking a week to do all of this, in place of having these pests for 10 years.
Like I said, I'm on day 2, and no itching, no bumps, and scabs are healed....AND I have diabetes...meaning I heal much slower than your average joe.
I also will note, I'm drinking DE (doesn't matter how much) in every drink, and I take 2 TBSP. of ACV daily to start my day.
This is not to be taken lightly. Do your research, be careful, and get rid of this!
Next time try psorinum homeopathic - its made from scabies and should kill them - or check online search scabies +cure and you see what other people have used successfully.
Clove Oil
Can you tell me exactly how much of each went into lotion and spray bottle. Also, how much in the bath? What did you use the spray on? I'm sorry if you explained it and I am not fully understanding? I just don't want use wrong.
Bleach and Water
I had scabies in 2010;they hatch out on 30 day intervals, learn how 2 time that.Doctors should no that, the 1 I had did and kept me infested to get my $$$.Yes, unfortunately most dr.s today r very unethical, so ur probably better off on ur own.My scabies turned into the norwieghan variety because I drove them off my body in a 130 degree bath.They are permithrin resistant, to the 5&10% permetrin. If you go to ace hardware&get the 38% permethrin &double the water dilution you have 19&1/2% prmethrin. I kept a spray bottle next 2 me at all times .I kept the house&bedding etc.clean, but what really got em was spontaniously spot treating with my 19% perm. Every little itch or twitch even if I had to get up at 2:oo a.m., lift the scab or bump its under&spray directly on site .It got the scabies; unfortunately they had already attracted a co-infection of bird mites to my home & it being 3.5 years I think it has progressed into morgellons now. It's only 10 or 12 dollars for a bottle that will make several gallons of treatment, spray the house, yard&septic system with the straight 38% mix.
So, if all you have is scabies, that should be all you need. I got rid of it in less than 3 months once I started doing this .Hope this cures you.
Sulphur
I totally agree with sulfur, only be very careful you can over do it. I burnt my neck and chest pretty bad cause I was so anxious to have the bugs killed. They are fine now after intense moisterizing..I used sulfur paste and mixed with eurcerin lotion. Go easy, it should be one part sulfur to 9 parts lotion and don't get it near your eyes. It will irritate them. Should continue for three weeks. Good luck all!
Essential Oils
Hydrogen Peroxide, Zinc Oxide Ointment
Ok the person telling ppl they cant get burned from peroxide. There's always someone trying to INVALIDATE another's experience. There are different strengths of peroxide skin types etc. and many outcomes possible. For instance, Diatomaceous Earth might have worked great for some but there are many different type of mites and solutions are not always one size fits all.
Treat Your Pets
SCABIES TREATMENT: Be sure to treat your animals for mange at the same time! :)
Clove Oil
There are literally thousands of types of mites and the medical establishment doesn't know everything. Some mites are super strong and regular meds aren't wrking
Clove Oil
So it's been about a week since my last post regarding clove oil.. So far it's one of the best things to use to subside the itch and move forward with your life. Unfortunately I've been reinfected. This morning after waking up and feeling itchy again I decided to take another shower. Every day before I use a towel to pat dry I look at it to see if there is bugs on it and low and behold, I saw about 10. So, I finally took this opportunity to put them separately in a glass so I could test which of my solutions kill them fastest if at all. Long story short.. Windex!! First I tried Diatomaceous Earth and let them crawl through it, waited 15 min but they were still moving. Then let clove oil touch them, then a few repellents containing permethrin, then witch hazel, and I'm sure a few others I'm forgetting but ammonia (Windex) killed them in under a minute. Although I was thoroughly enjoying making these things suffer. So now, on top of my clove oil/permethrin/orange oil mixture in lotion and spray form, I now have a spray containing ammonia, mint scented alcohol, and equal parts water so it doesn't melt my skin off. These bugs do travel too.. My daughter who shares just about everything with me, has yet to have one bite but across the room she found one of her shirts with two of the mites just sitting on it. At that point after finding so many (15) in less than an hour I'm now in serious clean mode again while spraying everything with this ammonia solution. I will report back with my findings or other cure I've found. I also plan to try to find the stuff from Sweden that was previously mentioned. Good luck.
Clove Oil
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Took me forever to believe a natural oil would do the trick but after spending $125 on everything everyone else said, I finally found clove bud oil in rite aid. The employees didn't even know it was there, and I also grabbed orange oil too because it smells better than what I originally mixed up. So long story short, it does kill everything including the babies. You will feel relief almost instantly. There was a time I felt like giving up and I just started crying, mind you I'm a grown man. The next day I used the clove oil and I was back to life again. It takes about a week of doing what I'm about to tell you but seriously, stop reading so many posts and go find this stuff. First, in a store like Walmart, get sulphur soap, tea tree oil, clove oil, orange oil, a spray bottle, olive oil, and unscented lotion. The soap dries out skin which mites hate. Make a lotion by adding a small bottle of clove and orange oil to the lotion. Then make a spray using the olive, clove, and orange oils. The oils should be like 10% of whatever you're mixing it with to dilute it a bit. Then, take a very hot bath with drops of tea tree and orange oil in it. Soak as long as you can and get your head under water too. When you get out, air dry off and apply the lotion. This moment of relief will leave you feeling so much better already.. but it's not over. You will still itch up to a week but not merely as bad as it was. After 2 days you have your life back. BTW, clove oil stinks. That's why orange oil is key. Im on my third day of using these things and I can see them dead in my tub, because they get stuck in the oils and go down the drain so you don't have to worry. I also have extremely good vision. My itching is minimal and now I know it's working. I still have a Martin's 10% permethrin bottle from Amazon on its way as well as some diatomaceous earth (De). I plan to add the permethrin to the spray and lotion just for extra security and the DE I'll put on everything I touch and everywhere I've been including my car. Windex with ammonia also kills them on the surface so electronics etc can be treated with that. Small stuff like wallets and lighters can be frozen over night but I'd go 2 days straight to be sure. I never needed borax for my laundry, just high heat, but I'd still get it if I were you. So much for a long story short. I hope I helped someone because you're not alone.
Ive been dealingwith this severalmonths and thought I finally beat it however it was great for 2 months but I had company it was mani had rented out roomto and he never showered I had wondered how in crap did this happen now I know it was him in first place..... But I got sle lupus andmy skin so sensitive plus I got a dog who vet started on revolution but I noticedshe has no bumps or rashes but shes keeping me up again but neways I sprayed myself with bleach last night and later took shower I exfolatite my skin good, , , right now tho this morning I wike up to bump on belly im sorry I get so confuse what are yhe spots that look like freakles and make patterns at times?is that the fecal?and can we see larva on skin I have noticed some ppl report seeing them but they are so small so these few raise bumps are on me but this tume around no wiggles only itches could somebody plz help me understand I did take 2 tubes of stuff that start with P im on fixed income I cant find the borax or sulfer I even thought about takibg bath in my dogs shampoo they gave me foe mites? Thank you and I pray u all are having success with this ugly infestation mite monsters
Red Wine Spray
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So red wine works and kills these monsters? I've done all the cleaning on what these threads say except the steam which I cant afford! I got a dog and got lucky with myvet they took my word and started her on revolution ive took the hot bath the suanas...ive applied TTO bleach periode and avc! My problem is I thought I had it licked but my dog seems to b acting up in the nights and now I am again aftr 2 months im really low on money and havent tried the borax and dont even know where to get it only thing I can think of was a person came over and they never shower but I seen them itching so now makes me wonder if I was cured or reibfested myself? So upset can anybody plz help with a cheapwr method so far ive only got a few raised spot that look like mosquite bites with itches luckily no wiggles yet however I have foundthose brown specks on my belly when they had been clearing up andvmy vet told me scabies in dogs r different than humans tht is very rare tht a mite from dog get on us so they cant produce I got sle lupus my skin is so dry plzhelp just cant handle this nitemare thank u for listening and god bless each good luck to all.
Hair Dryer
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I have written here before thinking I had found relief from scabies only to find again that they were still around. I used many of the ideas on Earthclinic. It is almost a year ago now that I started using a hair dryer on the scabies and it is amazing as soon as you start. I haven't found any scabies in months but I worry every time I itch and I just use the hairdryer. I use it as hot as possible till I can't stand the heat or burn feeling. I read from a person on this site about that idea first and it made sense. As soon as I did this the redness or aliveness faded. It works fast, you just have to get all the places and then of course there is the clothes and house cleaning. Good luck with these horrible little "animals". This works great!
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My heart goes out to anyone who is suffering from any skin issues especially scabies. I just wanted to leave a comment to those franticly and endlessly up in the middle of the night searching the internet for a cure or treatment.
1st of all, the permethrin is not really that toxic. Fake sugars are more dangerous than permethrin as your liver is involved with metabolizing in the food or beverage you may repeatedly consume rather than the permethrin you just wash off. Sure a small amount is absorbed through the skin but it's a substance your body can breakdown easily. Don't be afraid of it. It's a plan analog of pymetherin made by a flower that acts like a nerve exciter and mini stun-gun to insects. They die after to repeated shocks to their nerves, you just feel a slight harmless tingle.
The pill, ivermectin, is a bit more serious though, all healthy persons can well handle it but not those with liver issues. It may cause liver damage if too much is ingested. It is a bacterial analog of a soil microbe that paralyses insects and especially larva. When consumed with a fatty meal, it is better metabolized and makes its way to the skin from the inside out. It works but only if you take care not to re-infect.
I really do believe some of you out there may not actually have scabies but some other skin issue and those that do, may think their scabies is still active due to the itching that remains after treatment. I have found that the skin reacts to things you are doing to it. Looking back, the itching with no visible rashes that was waking me up and causing so much anxiety was coming from the bleach baths.My skin was trying to heal.
Also, save yourself the trouble of daily washing of bed clothes and buy 8 bedsheets, towels and cheap blankets to spare yourself the time and energy of daily washing. That way, you only have to wash every seven days with one day with of bed linens to spare. Cover beds with venal covers and spray with bleach water after changing each night through the duration of your treatment.
Over the years I've kept an eye out for the things that people say works best.
- Clove oil (can cause pin prick sensations next day)
- Bleach baths (ditto)
- Arm & Hammer for sensitive skin laundry detergent (one scoop in a long hot bath)
- Kleen Free enzyme based soap soak in bath or sprayed on skin.
- 100% pure tree gum oil of turpentine
- Sulfur Soap (can cause itching and dryness)
- Peroxide and Borax (may cause pin prick sensations after the bath)
- Diatomaceous earth (strongly made me itch when used daily on skin after a while)
- Tea Tree oil
- Neem oil.
I'd say in that order, according to what I read, worked best for people. I also see a lot of people who say they have scabies but then mentioning being able to see them coming out of their skin, flying around them, describing puss filled blisters and other non-scabies serious skin conditions. Remember the more fear you have in your consciousness, the less likely you are going to see clearly, so calm the anxiety and don't imagine the worse case scenario is going to happen to you.
This whole mess back in 2012 took such a toll on me emotionally, looking back I see I was the case of most of it. The strange skin condition I had then was only an activating catalyst for my nerves and anxiety. Please don't make the same mistake. Go to bed and get the sleep your body needs. If you are up late reading this with fear, the best thing at this moment is to go to bed and give your body and nerves the rest. Tomorrow you can resume your quest for knowledge and get closer to solving your problem which you eventually will.
Bleach and Water
I use ACV for many many things but it certainly does not clear up critters on everyone. Well-diluted bleach baths have been recommended for years by people and even dermatologists for adults and children with severe eczema and/or psoriasis. I don't see much difference in bathing in it vs spraying it on. As a mother, I'm sure she was careful using it on her daughter. It worked for them in 3 days which is great since many suffer for months and even years.
Bleach and Water
I'm trying to get my head around the fact that someone knowingly sprayed themselves with bleach, and not only themselves but their child as well.
Sure, bleach will kill mites and also you, if you inhale it and have an unknown allergy to it..
...we already live in a world where our bodies have to cope with many external contaminants such as pollution, and commercial shampoos etc that are mini labs of chemicals designed " to clean your hair" etc. The pores on our skin are there for a reason...
Try to buy a large ( possibly 2 litres that we can buy here from local supermarket) bottle of ACV. It doesn't even have to be organic . Failing that , brown or white vinegar, will do..dilute 1 cup of vinegar to 4 cups of warm water, which should be a 2 litre bottle..a plastic bottle would be more practical where you shower than a glass bottle and can safely be reused, without breaking.
Try it on a small patch of skin to see if it is comfortable after a few moments, and if so add an extra cup of water and prepare to use it, after you have had a hot shower initially, then gradually reduce the hot water until it is still warm but cooler have and washed yourself thoroughly, hair included..lightly towel dry yourself and then whilst your skin pores are open, pour the bottle of vinegar/water, over your head and shoulders and everywhere else (and don't forget to close your eyes) ..a 2 litre bottle of mixture is quite sufficient to do a large adult and another for a child. and leave to a-dry on your body.If infestation is heavy, it can be done 3-4 times a day and should be gone within 24 hours- 36 hours
If all this sounds like a lot of work, it isn't. Doing this every time you have a shower is also helpful for your skin because it gradually alkalines your skin and makes you less suseptable to hosting mites.. They don't like living on skin that isn't acidic.
Before I got sick I used to do this every day and it cured a skin complaint that I'd had for several years and nothing had been able to cure it. But ACV in this proportion did, in just 2 weeks and in over 7 years it has never returned.. but as for bleach? ... great for sterilising bandages and cloth nappies and dog kennels but not on living things..
For some added protection you may wish to buy some solution for scabies, if you don't want to do the ACV everyday.
Go to your chemist or pharmacy and buy 5% Permethrin Cream, and Google scabies lotion online and it will show you step by step how to make the lotion for home use, to keep in case this happens again.
Hope this will be of help to you..
Jenn x
Bleach and Water
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We got mites from a dog we picked up. I used mostly bleach and a little hot water. I had the bleach as strong as I could stand it and sprayed it all over my body and let sit for five mins then washed it off. Word of advice - don't scratch while bleach is on you. It burns really bad if you do. Not bad if you don't scratch; it has a light sting to it but the next day I was seeing results. My daughter had it from head to toe and I sprayed her down let it sit on her skin for about five mins then had her get a shower. Same thing I saw results the next day. We did that for three days and it's gone.
Kleen Green works. Google it. It is an enzyme spray that dissolves their hard shells. I got some a couple weeks ago. You need to take shower and then dry off well. To one ounce of the Kleen Green add 7 ounces of water. Spray everywhere, all body crevices including your naval, ears, nose, genitals, (because if they can hide out they will.) Leave the spray on for thirty minutes, it is worth it, just stand there in the tub. Use the spray all over your hair too. You can leave this on. It is totally safe. It is organic and only made with 4 enzymes.
BUT you have to do this twice a day, along with washing all your bedding, clothes etc...
Make sure you also bathe your pets with it. They can also carry this and then you get it back again and it keeps on going.
Bleach and Water
How are you able to keep bleach and water on you?
I tried the bleach and water sprayed on me at just the recommended mix on here and within a half hour I had an absolutely horrible headache. Is there some kind of bleach that you are using that doesn't have the awful harmful smell?
Bleach and Water
I LOVE your overview --- your belief it's not crucial for sanitizing the bedding, carpeting etc. And that 3 days without feeding they die. If a person did go to a clean environment for a time, wouldn't he or she bring a population under the skin that would be brought along? I feel I'd come back and the critters under my skin would come with me. Re-infesting clothes, linens back home which was rid of eggs, etc after the 3 days.
But, it's the most hopeful thought I've ever heard!
Scabies Feedback
I hope you got better. I contracted bugs after going to the San Diego area. They went away once but came back again. Both times in the fall, October this year, late November last year. They don't bite my husband (so he says).Could be rat or bird mites, since they look for shelter from cold weather.
I saw a remedy for dog scabies from a girl that worked in a shelter. They covered the dogs in mayo. I know when my daughter was young we had to "smother" the head lice. They went away AFTER, I made my husband get the headlice treatment, same as us, even tho he claimed he did not have them. People are strange.
So this time I am having a more difficult time eradicating, but not giving up. Jesus saves! I think soaking clothing overnight will help. purchasing the steam dryer and washer, mainly to keep bugs out of them! One utube site admits the bugs in humans are epidemic and the Drs don't know what to do? It's a Channel 7 news report. Visit that, you'll realize your itchies are not the worst!
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Citrus Soap
Sulphur
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WORKED TEMPORARILY
As soon as I saw the Dudadiesel address in another post, I bought a 5 lb bag of sulfur for scabies... the sulfur calmed the itch the first night. Somewhat less the second night. By third and fourth, the itching under the sulfur is back like mad. I find that anything I try: permethrin, clove oil, heated cloth, Listerine, diatomaceous earth, peroxide work for a limited time. And same with the sulfur.
Although is certainly helps to build your immune system when fighting scabies, this will not cure scabies alone. The tea tree oil kills both the mite and the eggs that it comes into contact with. The neem oil blocks hormone production so that eggs being laid are not viable, therefore, unable to 'hatch', it also causes the living bugs to literally starve themselves to death.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
It could have also been a fungal infection due to the weakening of the skin. I use the borax treatment, with peroxide and pour mineral oil around the base of the portion of leg showing, this effectively creates an oil barrier that they will get stuck in if they surface. I was prescribed clarithromycin for the fungal infection that had grown from the damn feces and larvae, regular occuring fungus is fueled by the feces it seems like.
All of the areas you noted are naturally oily areas of the face, but the seborratic derm was probably a manifestation of presence of mites. aka get nizoral, womens yeast infection cream, etc and try that on face. or go get some antibiotics, warning tho: if it is strong enough, be ready to feel all the mites on the move at once, my first dosage was while driving back from the ER, had to stop on side of the road. this time, I'll be at home and will hop in the shower 5-10 minutes after taken the meds. so when they run out... wash'n em down, let you all know how it goes. Treat this as a systemic problem, the feces is a huge factor, espcially if you get ringworm, (fungus) and with all the hot baths, you are bound to get ringworm or some other infection. FIght the war on all fronts troops!!
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
cheapest, safest, best quality sulfur powder I can find, feed grade: http://www.dudadiesel.com/search.php?query=sulfur
Diatomaceous Earth
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On the topic of scabies, Diatomaceous earth works wonderful. Use one cupful in bath water and soak for while covering all parts of body. When you get out of bath just pat dry to leave as much DM on the body as possible. Use the food grade. It can also be used for internal parasites. I have used it for 6 yrs on my dogs, goats, mule, chickens and even taken it myself. It works to get rid of mites on chickens and scale mites on their feet . Research this for more info.
Multiple Remedies
Hi, what's your recipe for the essential oils body rub? Thanks
Multiple Remedies
Thanx very much for your loving support Mmsg. You are such a strength here on E.C.!!!
Multiple Remedies
Timh, why "live thru one more winter"?! May you live thru many more, G-d willing!!
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
How long ago had your friend had Scabies when you got her furniture, clothing etc.? I heard they die after 3 days when they don't have a human host.
Multiple Remedies
Despite a big lack of diagnostics, I have had the fortune to live near a Mennonite Community which has an excellent health clinic w/ Naturopathic Dr's and the good homegrown herbs. They use Iridology w/ much precision as their primary means of diagnostics. I was twice diagnosed w/ "blood parasites", so it appears we have that correlation.
Seeing how you are able to get about much, you may try and pay em' a visit. They are located just across the Tn/Ky border at Salinas in the Cumberland River basin in the community named Hestand Ky. They have very good cancer treatment protocols and help people from near & far.
Speaking of Sauna, I have been using the Steam room & Sauna faithfully for yrs until recently become unable. These treatments are certainly great for detoxing and generally invigorating. My condition is slowly improving and am hoping to get back to the health club this month and live thru one more winter.
Hope to hear of any improvements in your case.
Multiple Remedies
HI U TIMH, , , , , , , , , , , Yep, a FIR sauna at 160 degrees killed my mites when the MD's could not.
I got a kick out of Rees comment about my having lots of health problems. I have lots of health problems because I test when most don't. I am on my second round of blood cancer in 3 years because I test before problems become clinical.
It's the high jumper story. What are you? "I'm a high jumper". How high do you jump? "Pretty dang high". And how high is that? " Way higher than most folks in this area". Exactly, how high is this? " A little less than 6 ft."
Partner, I don't know what you are, but you are no high jumper.
Most folks don't know their problems because they don't test. They don't know their health condition until it hits them in the face. I know where I am because I test.
Going to Dr Shallenberger in Jan. because he has a test like no other physician on the planet. He gets it down to the cell level. I was successful in the paper industry because I listened to folks smarter me. At 78, my challenge is my good health and I still listen to folks smarter me.
What tests are you talking about? For openers, all on EC should take their urine and saliva pH test once a week. That will keep you busy for quite awhile. Take your glucose and blood pressure daily . Chump change. Spit in a glass of water and you will know about your Candida. No MD needed.
A few tests and you will know more about your health than your MD.
ATS =======OLE ROBERT HENRY====
Multiple Remedies
Zapping and a bath w/ added Turpentine are two items which come to mind. Hot Sauna have been reported somewhat effective.
Multiple Remedies
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My boyfriend and I have been attempting to treat scabies at home over the past 2+ months. We have tried borax and hydrogen peroxide baths, borax scrubs, benedryl, and topical hydrogen peroxide, hydorcortisone and witch hazel. All of these may bring some sort of mild, temporary relief, but definitely not a cure. We are still suffering with the underlying symptoms and signs of small red and clear fluid-filled bumps, intense itching that is often worse at night, and even open sores and bruising likely from incessant, mindless itching.
I have researched and would be open at this point to prescription medications, but most resources state that complete recovery is not often achieved even with repeated doses and I am not willing to use pesticides without the guarantee or even a high chance of success. Please help us find a way to put this misery behind us; we welcome any advice, tips and hope from your own similar experiences.
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Hi, Like most I have found scabies to be a scary infection.
A thought first: First check the possibilty that it may be 'folliculitis' as scabies is often diagnosed incorrectly.
I scrubbed my large area of infection on the knee with neat conditioner (I use any unbranded name). They are better than the one that is head and shoulders above the rest for infections. I use neat conditioner for most things especially eczema.
This cleared the area of surface critters. However, I notice there often isn't a distinction between 'I'm free of them' to 'I'm free of the infection underneath the skin'.
The following is not for the faint hearted. I can only say this is what I did and not saying do it.
I poured a very small amount of 33% peroxide into a small glass. I then add a little water. The mixture was very powerful, way beyond 10%.
With a cotton bud I rubbed into the infected burrow lines till they opened and whoosh the peroxide just killed everything. The process was so painful that I thought I couldn't bear it but I keep pushing the bud. The off white residue was hard so I washed it down. Later, I repeated the process on the missed areas.
I can always tell if there is any infection under the skin because if I press an area it feels like a pin sticking in me. My knee looked like I had fallen on gravel that cut deeply into my flesh.
At last the infection had gone. Now I am recovering and applying simple balms to the sores. There is no scarring of 'burnt' areas.
Max
Bleach and Water
I used regular bleach...like Chlorox.
chlorinated
Not sure if "non-chlorinated" bleach is real bleach. I put one or two cups of bleach in the bathtub, about the same hydrogen peroxide, then fill up the tub.
Clove Oil
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I've read through hundreds of posts here on scabies, and wonder why there is such confusion and angst.
If you read the scientific literature on scabies, it is generally cured with one dose of Ascabiol or benzyl benzoate.
E.g.: Landegren, J. et al. Treatment of scabies with disulfiram and benzyl benzoateemulsion: a controlled study.
In a double-blind study, 38 adults with scabies were treated with the scabicide Tenutex (a proprietary aqueous emulsion containing 0.5% DDT, 2% disulfiramand 22.5% benzyl benzoate) and 42 patients were treated with a similar emulsion lacking DDT. The treatment consisted of a single whole-body (except for the head) application which was washed off after 24 hours. When examined 3 weeks later, both groups were completely cured. Thereafter, a further 35 patients took part in an open trial with the DDT-free Tenutex emulsion and allpatients were cured, irrespective of whether the treatments were administeredby skilled personnel or by themselves at home. It is concluded that for the treatment of scabies in Sweden, the most commonly used preparation, Tenutex, can be replaced, without risk of loss of efficacy, by an emulsion containing 2% disulfiram and 22.5% benzyl benzoate, I.e. Tenutex without DDT.
Personally, I'm using clove bud oil. After 3 days most of my itching has gone, and many mites have died and surfaced through my skin. Clove kills the mites, but apparently not (all) the eggs, so I'll keep applying it for 6-8 weeks till the breeding cycle is over. As for fanatically laundering and hot-drying your clothing and bedding daily, spraying your entire house daily (including the ceilings! ), etc: Why? The literature is clear that scabies mites survive 24-36 hours only off the human body: "Human and canine scabies mites are capable of surviving for 24–36 hours at room temperature and retain the ability to re-establish infestation. Canine mites dislodged from a host respond to host odour and thermal stimuli by actively seeking their source. Despite the detection, survival and penetrative abilities of S scabiei when kept at room temperature, the role of contaminated bedding as a reservoir for infestation appears to be overemphasised. For example, in experiments where volunteers climbed into warm beds just vacated by heavily infected patients, only four new cases resulted from 272 attempts." (Google it.) Yes, you do need to treat scabies. Yes, you do need to wash your clothes and bedding - or abandon them for a few days to let the mites die.
John
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Just an update. The rash is totally gone now. It's more than 2 weeks later. I didn't go nuts and have my entire apartment and car sanitized. I think that's just overreacting to the maddening itching. Spraying the affected area (plus I took one or two diluted bleach baths) did the trick.
Away from human contact, scabies mites die within 3 days; so it would probably be cheaper to just rent a motel for a couple nights then return to your home. Go to Starbucks with your sanitized suitcase in the car, stay there 12 hrs, then stay in a motel for the night, the next day, and another night if you want to be sure.
When you get home, all the mites will be dead, and you didn't have to sanitize every inch of your home.
But all the above is overkill anyway...that's my point.
Bleach and Water
I used the Permethrin, which for all I know eventually worked. But I was still itching (never scratching) like crazy, and the bumps/rash was disgusting and showed no signs of diminishing.
I tried the Hydrogen Peroxide/Bleach/Water bath. That was good.
But I really started to notice improvement after spraying the quarter-sized rash (with several tiny, satellite bumps) with bleach/water (1 part bleach, 1 part water). The rash was on the inner wrist, where you feel your pulse.
Spraying it with the diluted bleach always made the itching go away (I don't know how). After a couple days, I saw visible improvement. I thought it might have been my imagination, but I was pretty sure it was diminishing. Now I'm absolutely sure it's diminished, because I can barely see it anymore.
Many reviewers here have recommended washing everything in sight...washing clothes, etc. I washed my clothes and sheets once, and tried to clean up the place some, but I honestly don't think it's crucial.
I understand the constant itching drives you mad, so you probably overreact and spray every inch with bleach. And I suppose that's a good thing, but in my experience, treating the affected area is good enough.
Maybe a bleach/water bath also, just so you get every inch of your body...after all, Scabies can only thrive on the human body.
I am SO glad this is gone. I was staying inside almost every day because it was disgusting...looked like a cluster of miniature grapes. When I went out to run errands, I wrapped bandages around it...couldn't see the rash, but then I looked like a suicide victim.
"I tried the PERM & no results after a couple of days..."
Sounds like you didn't listen to your doctor, on he/she didn't tell you anything about what to expect.
Permethrin does NOT make you good as new after 2 days. You have to apply it, usually wait 7 days, then apply again. Then it takes weeks for the rash and itching to go away.
Silicon Dioxide
My message is I'm using a bedbug pesticide with silicone dioxide for scabies. It's a powder, I'm making it into a paste with water, rubbing it on skin. I hope it works. IS THIS HARMFUL? All it said was it would erritate skin.
Clove Oil
Suseeq, I went on to eBay and found one brand beginning with "S" available in Australia and another wild oregano oil from the US, the latter arrived within 2 weeks. There are liquid drops available but if you use them under your tongue, you would not be happy.
Clove Oil
HI Dana could you tell me where you purchased your oregano capsules thanks
Clove Oil
Craig, just wondering whether you are cured of this affliction, myself recently started on the oregano oil capsules.
Bleach and Water
I started today with a spray bottle on my arms and will let you know after a few days with my results...never had this..I think it came from someone that came into my home with it... and I am so clean..grrr and I too got the Perm treatment from my doctor and still did not help or maybe its just around this person that comes and visit me I may have to let that person know YOU OUT OF HERE lol
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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I just wanted to comment on the Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide post. You have saved my sanity!!! I have 4 kids under 9 and we think my husband brought home scabies from work. It has been a horrible experience! Especially for our 15 month old who was struggling terribly-up hours at night screaming etc. I was desperate. After several internet search attempts I found this site. I did not want to use Ivermectin and Permethrin creams-so I tried several home remedies--lots of coconut oil (which my 15mo old reacted to so we had to switch her to grapeseed oil-worked great) We used those carrier oils for the young living's Thieves oil-which worked great for relief-but didn't cure. We also used Naturasil stuff-lavender/sulfer soap, tea tree oil soak, the sulfer lotion, and the spray to kill stuff--along with washing everything-everyday. All of those things helped-and maybe even cured my husband--but my baby girl had nests all over-and head to toe rash--she was in misery. Not until we started the hydrogen peroxide/borax soak did she truly see results--and I saw them the first day!!!!! It was amazing!!! I only used about 1/3 c borax and 1/4 c. hydrogen peroxide for her--borax is hard on skin so be careful! Will really dry out. for myself I followed the 1c borax and 1/2 c Hydrogen peroxide. We so far have done 2 nights of borax baths and this is the first day I can say she has no new spots and the old ones are fading fast. It's been 10 days of hell for us (my husband started itching 2 months ago) but the last week and a half were awful.
I also made up a spray bottle of about 20oz warm water and added 2 Tbs borax and 2Tbs hydrogen peroxide. I spray this all over my house and when I have an itch I put it on my skin and let it dry there. After that I still use the coconut oil (2Tbs melted) with 4-5drops of Thieves oil-its got clove in it--and I put that on the itchy spots as well. We also put the tea tree oil in the baths at night as well-we then air dry to let the oil and borax stay on our skin. After that I cover in the coconut oil I have found some very dry/leathery like spots on my skin after borax-but its so much better than a scabies itch-so I will lotion or oil up. We also put borax in all our laundry loads washing everything on super hot (we turned our hot water heater all the way up) and drying everything completely (and putting all pillows in the dryer daily for 20-30min)
We will continue the nightly bath ritual (which takes about 4 hours for 6 people it seems). For a few more days at least-until the baby is completely healed-and then we will probably do every 2-3 days for awhile just in case-I'm not risking re-infection--this has been a nightmare.
This was an AMAZING find!! Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide made all the difference for the cure!!!! Thank You Thank You thank you!!! Getting our lives back. :)
Bleach and Water
Your method worked out Great.. Angela from Eastpointe, MI. Thanx a lot
Epsom Salts
Hello my husband and I are suffering from Scabies and I need some help please.... What is the ratio for Epsom salt peroxide and water.. Which works or what did you alternate with? Plz help me!!! Crosbymy(at)gmail (dot) com thanks
Ted's Remedies
Jane: Ted is not an amateur. He has thoroughly researched all the products he recommends and takes them himself. I took 5g a day of dmso for 90 days. David Avacado Wolfe recommends dmso. Get the 99.9% pure, although many people use the 99% brand for farm animals. 1tbsp is 15ml. 5% of 1tbsp is 750mg. Mix 25% castor oil because the dmso needs to be at a certain dilution. The dmso carries the remedies through the skin barrier so there won't be anything left on the skin to wash off. For the scalp cut the hair very short before applying. When I had scabies the Dr. gave me some medicine in a cream that cured them immediately.
Ted's Remedies
To Jane from NJ,
Re Ted's formula for mite infestation and your question on Ted's use of DMSO...
I've been using DMSO longer than most any other "curative" item ...about 30 years. Just used it a day ago on Impetigo case which is children's infection by bacteria. Used Bentonite clay, DMSO, H2O2 and Colloidal Silver to form the "plaster"... Wrapped infected finger with clay mix. Let dry and washed off. Then assuming for caution sake the infection might also contain spores of fungus, also applied to dry surface, a powder form of anti fungal and held that in place with paper towel. Finally, a re application of the Clay / DMSO mix.
The point is the DMSO was used easily on child with no ill effects. Only helped. I also use DMSO on any sign of Bells Palsey, for instance....I mix DMSO fifty fifty with colloidal silver and apply on affected side with white paper towel. Only ten days ago I suddenly had a swollen forefinger on left hand. Out of the blue....couldn't figure why since I'd done no exercise/ yard work etc the day before....I used DMSO straight on swollen area. Worked the area and now days later no swelling. I found I could "move" the swollen joint and "pop" it in place. Almost no sensitivity now.
I'm just trying to point out all the times I use DMSO. Not weekly, but I bet I use DMSO eight or nine times yearly on myself, and have now for over three decades.
Watch on youtube, DMSO, dr Jacobs, sixty minutes and you'll find a great three part program on DMSO.