Hi , I was just following up on Naturalone from Stillwater, Mn, Usa idea about Magnesium, and high blood pressure, as my HBP has rocket ted in the last few months.
Hi Dennis, I just wanted to comment on your post. You mentioned that at first, the ACV appeared to be helping, but then quickly took a turn for the worse. When you mentioned esophageal reflux and anxiety, I immediately thought Magnesium. In addition to the hypertension, both of these conditions can be directly related to low Mg. levels. Not to mention that your medications also contribute to Mg. wasting.
I'm not suggesting that you ditch your meds, but I would highly recommend that you consider adding Mg. into your daily routine.
I had changed my diet, cutting out alot of different foods (I went Paelo) to see what might be triggering my multiple inflammation problems. So I thought I would do a search on Magnesium rich foods, which turned out to be most of what foods I had cut out, such as beans and soy products! Within 24 hours my blood pressure had come down, just adding 1/4 teaspoon of Epsom salts to the cider vinegar bicarb mix, which I try to have three times a day. Also it has cured the constipation that has also been a problem recently. I have been trying to keep protein down to a minimum and it is very interesting how little you really need. Christina
i wanted to ask sally_oh from Escazu, San Jose, Costa Rica, what kind of magnesium (citrate, chloride, etc..) her husband takes for his high blood pressure. I am having some struggles with the same issue and i need some help. I am taking the acv (2Tablespoons x 3 daily) and am finding it beneficial but am still experiencing some elevated pressure.
EC: Kathyrn is referring to the following post: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/blood_pressure.html#TED
10/10/2009: Sally_oh from Escazú, San José, Costa Rica replies: "Funny, in 2009 my husband has high blood pressure so we've been doing lots of research. There is a lot now written that salt is not the culprit and that the no-salt is actually harmful! We use real salt, great stuff.
And my husband manages his blood pressure with 1000mg of magnesium a day: 500 in the am, 500 before bed. Works like a charm."
What is the best and most absorbable magnesium supplement? If no one can list name, then what form is best to take: powder, liquid, tablet....?
EC: Magnesium Oil (aka Transdermal Magnesium Therapy) is our pick: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/transdermal-magnesium-therapy.html
Manuka Honey and Cinnamon
Manuka honey is an amazing remedy for M.R.S.A. wounds, as well as for diabetic skin ulcerations. It comes in several strengths, so contact customer service on websites to see which is best for you. It is a little pricey, but I think it is worth it. It's delicious and healthful when taken internally and is wonderful when applied externally to the face. I am taking one teaspoon of Manuka honey and 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon each morning and evening. It has lowered my blood pressure from 156 to 125 in a very short period of time. It also improves my sleep! I love this website and it makes me happy to give back for all the help I've received. Good luck to all.
Thanks for the info on high blood pressure. I am 58 and my blood pressure fluxuates on my stress level. I have been on about 15 medicines and they all have effects. I want to caution people about Metrapolol.. Out of 100 symptoms I had over 20... Even the ringing in the ears and hearing voices and a radio at night. I actually thought I was going nuts. I Lost an entire week. Short term memory loss... Ect.. EC may you be blessed a thousand times over for giving this info out for free and helping people who don't know!!!
I too took metropolol for a very short time. It lowered my heartbeat too low and made my heart go out of rhythm. I had to go to the er. Doc there said to stop taking it.
Ever since the doctor put me on beta blocker since they scared me into it and I had no idea that there were natural things I could have taken. I searched for things for myself since the medication wasn't even working that well.. I stupidly waited for the meds to work better but they didnt So I started using Olive Leaf, ACV and beet root and Taurine and magnesium. My bp and heart rate is much lower and I so want to cut these tabs in half but I am afraid ... The doctors won't help as we all know as I have asked last visit..I can't seem to cut them in quarters. pills are way too small.
Should I or can I just cut these tabs in half for a few weeks? I check my bp everyday and all throughout the day and even drinking water brings it down.....so I know how to control it myself....and yes I know the deal surrounding beta blockers, so please only positive comments will be helpful as I am dealing with enough stress right now.... Thank You
I would like to second Bee's interest in this topic as I am in a similar quandary. I have read much about Hawthorn for lowering BP and would love to try it, but (as with Bee), my doctor cautions against it and therefore won't help me transition.
I have tried other methods - ACV w/ the mother, celery seed, cayenne, etc. with only minimal success.
I currently take 25mg of extended release Metoprolol and would love to get off of it altogether, but don't want to do myself more harm than good. I have already tried taking a half-dose for a week, hoping that if I could manage on 12.5mg's, that the leap to Hawthorn would be a smaller one, but my BP was all over the place that week, which, along with my MD's scare tactics, did in fact, scare me.
All insight will be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!
When a supplement is recommended, it doesn't mean that one takes it every day for the rest of your life. You have to find that maintenance dose which may mean you skip one or more days. There may be the initial phase where you are cleaning up your system that you may want to take it every day. Some people may require it every single day. It depends upon the state of your health, age and other factors.
You have to experiment on dosage so you can go half or whatever you want. Your body and it's requirements may vary from day to day, week to week, month to month. You ultimately have to find that on your own. Instead of breaking it in half, maybe just skip a day. Also I'd give the K2 a couple months of cleaning and see if that brings down your blood pressure. I wouldn't get too obsessive about measuring your blood pressure every day since some things take time to work. Maybe measure it over a week every couple month.
One review published last year in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology even concluded that “there is a paucity of data or absence of evidence to support use of beta-blockers as … first-line agents [for high blood pressure].”
Read the comment posts at the bottom of Dr.mercola's article. it seems not many people have problems stopping them.
P.S. in my last post I misunderstood your post
Hello Kelly from Ma:
I too suffer from hypertension. Have been for over 2 years now. Been on prescription BP medicine for about 5 months now. I put it off for over 1 1/2 year. I was taking two 10 mg propanalol tabs per day to start. I have been able to cut that back to one 10 mg pill per day.
Let me tell you how I've been able to do that. The recommended supplements I would suggest are both niacin & magnesium. Also, possibly taking medicinal mushrooms. I take all 3 of these now. My BP is doing fine now & soon I should be able to completely go off the propanalol.
Let me say this isn't a quick fix by no means. That's the way natural supplementation works though. Your BP medicine is only covering up what's really wrong. I had renal failure myself back in April of 2012. I was put on BP back then but didn't want to take it so I put it off. We have to get our BP under control no matter what. It's dangerous to not get it under control. However, BP meds like all meds just cover up/delay the inevitable. They also have side effects like most meds.
One other thing you could try is Olive Leaf Extract. I take it on a rotation schedule of herbs for my candida condition. It also helps to lower BP. Don't take them all 4 at the same though. Try the niacin and magnesium first. I would suggest a dose of 1, 000 mg niacin daily in split doses & 250-500 mg magnesium. Take these for at least a month or 2. Check your BP every other day or so to keep an eye on it.
You will see a reduction in BP but not a fast fix. If the niacin and magnesium doesn't work try the Olive Leaf Extract and medicinal mushrooms combo. The medicinal mushrooms are strong immune boosters as well. Only look for buying medicinal mushrooms that are hot water extracted though. Don't buy any other type! A couple of brands are Paradise Herbs & Mushroom Science. These are really the only 2 companies that produced true hot water extracted mushrooms.
The Olive Leaf dose is different for each person. If the olive leaf dose contains 30 mg Oleuropein(check back label) take 4-6 capsules daily with food in split doses.
Keep us posted on your status. Also, feel free to ask more questions if needed. God Bless & hope your BP gets under control with one of these methods!
Prioris, Well thank you but I have read some people wean off this and they say has to be slow but I have no idea.. I would love to skip a night.. I am 59 and female and had four drugs before this one.. this one doesn't work all that well either so why bother when natural things work so much better.
Anyway; yes I would love to see what is best. right now I am taking 50mgs. in morning and 50 at night but it was all a mistake .. Long story because at that time I had extreme high bp and stress and now its sooooooo much better.. plus I don't take the time release one.. They are really hard to cut also but there is a line in them to cut in half. I think doctors would keep people on drugs forever. heck the doctor I saw who was only 47 told me she has been on calcium channel blockers for 20 years. I was like what??? I was shocked...
well I think it takes much longer than a week to stabilize your meds if you just started to try alternatives.. Anyway; did you read that there is an interaction between beta blockers and Hawthorne and that is one reason I didn't try the Hawthorne.. some meds interact with natural so that is why I tried the magnesium oil, beet root powder, olive leaf and ACV.. when I am at home I take one tablespoon 3x day of ACV in water.. spread it out throughout the day.. The olive leaf I take one tablespoon two or three times a day.. I do 1 tablespoon of beet root powder a day...My high bp is def. nerves and stress and that is a challenge for me.. oh; I also take two 500 mgs. of Taurine a night before bed. It sounds like a lot but I am trying to see what works the best for me and then do process of elimination or add. All I know is that the meds alone were not working and I found out too late and concerned now.. I did lose a lot of weight and change diet and drink more water and revamped my life and that worked well also but I did gain back 15lbs. of the 35 I lost and right away the bp shot up.. amazing right?? so with diet and exercise and getting rid of stress it would work for a lot of people.. Like the other poster said each of us is different and have to find our way....
What also works is acupressure..
When I go out I put a few tablespoons of ACV in water and just drink it throughout the day...
Bee and Kelly: When I was sick the diseases got into my nervous system that was already shot from being poisoned by toxic fumes and made me scared and schizophrenic. I was nervous and had stormy chaotic thoughts. Fortunately for me I did not go to the Doc because I couldn't wait for a long time at the free clinic so I wasn't on any meds. The first thing you can do is set the goal of functioning at peak performance and eventually getting off the meds cause they are toxins that poison. Just suffering while surviving is not much fun. The next thing you can do is experiment. Take 1 new thing at a very low dose and cut back a very small percentage of the meds. Evaluate the way this makes you feel and make adjustments. The products I would recommend would be sunflower lecithin, black chia, organic apples, raw cocoa powder, Hawaiian spirulina, desiccated liver, colostrum, non denatured whey isolate, expeller pressed coconut oil, raw wildflower honey, organic whole sugars, green smoothies from organic baby leaves, skate liver oil, and 90, 000hu cayenne. If you have not been supplementing with d3 then scroll down to my earlier post vitamin b-1 for proper d3 loading.
Thank you and that sounds good but my diet and lifestyle are really good and I add and subtract as I go..adding natural things and good organic food and veggies and water and such.. I don't eat meat and don't like it..so I take Taurine..
Now when you say cut this or that for me it's challenging because the pills are very very small and I can basically cut in half and that is it.. If I cut in thirds it will just crumble and nothing will be left.. so that is my main dilemma..
Hi Bee - You could pick up a pill crusher, which would reduce the pill to powder form and you could divide it from there. I checked Amazon and they are very inexpensive - around $6.
I do use spirulina and lecithin and I take Vit.D, E and use fish oil and beet root powder and ACV and magnesium and Olive Leaf and eat organic fruits and veggies and have a very clean diet... I walk when its warm and dance but have slacked off a bit.. drink a lot of water and do acupressure and do not eat processed foods or fast food...I also drink lemons in water a few times a week ..I also eat chia seeds and use cayenne pepper and cinnamon.. and turmeric and I take probiotics.. sometimes I use zinc . Oh; and I take astragulus root and motherwort....I also drink a lot of organic herbal teas such as dandelion root and Holy basil and some calming teas.
Yes I add and subtract and experiment the best I can.
I am going to see an integrative doctor which is going to cost 300.00 but maybe she can tell me exactly what I need or am missing. It gets rather frustrating not knowing what is best.. some things I just cant figure out myself..thinking since I am 59 and female I might need bioidentical hormones..and of course doctors online recommend omega fatty acids but I eat fish.. I mean how much can we take?? Thank You
This is what is said about stopping beta blockers:
Never stop taking a beta-blocker without speaking to your doctor first, even if you feel that it is not working. Sudden withdrawal can worsen angina and cause heart attacks.
You already talked with your doctor. Quiting beta blockers is pretty straight forward - take nattokinase. It protects against angina and heart attacks. You could opt for lumbrokinase.
Me too. Am going to see an intergrative (sp) holistic doc in a wk or so. He's a real md and does holistic too. He charges $200 an hour and $100 a half hr. Well worth it I guess. Don't want to keep taking lisinipril. Just started a month ago cuz bl pr sky high. Doing the Apple Cider Vinegar too now. Waiting to see. I do chk bl pr 6 x a day more or less, and drink Hibiscus tea.
Wow, I did not know beta blockers don't work good with hawthorn. When I took beta blockers for a short while 2 yrs ago, they made my heart go out of rhythm real bad. At that time I was also taking hawthorn! I still take the h.
There is this news at Science Daily http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070312160937.htm Here's a copy of what it says at the beginning. This is very interesting, I think:
According to a first-of-its-kind randomized study conducted by researchers from the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, a widely practiced, stress-reducing meditation technique can significantly reduce the severity of congestive heart failure. The study appears in the Winter 2007 issue of Ethnicity & Disease. "The results of this study indicate that transcendental meditation can be effective in improving the functional capacity and quality of life of congestive heart failure patients
Quit using the microwave for any food. (read up on Microwave hazards)
Mineral Water with Blackstrap Molasses
I had been running a high blood pressure for two days! I usually have borderline blood pressure which is about 130/90. Anyways I had tried acv, bicarbonate, sea salt, and lemon juice.
FINALLY! I wasreading about dehydration so I decided to try mineral water! And then I decided to add some blackstrap molasses to it for the extra added minerals. And voila! Went from 150:110 to 132/94 in 2 hours! I plan on consuming this every day to see how it works and makes me feel! Just wanted to share for others in case it would work for someone else!
Recipe : 1/2 tbsp in 12oz of mineral water ( I used gerolsteiner because it has a lot of mag bicarb and calcium bicarb )
Using Aloe Vera for High blood pressure. You can buy Aloe Vera juice (99.8%) by the gallon at Walmart to drink. The bottle recommends 4-8 ounces with a meal.
Apple Cider Vinegar. Try drinking 2 tablespoons of ACV diluted in 8 ounces of water every day.
Lowering blood pressure means you are dilating constricted arterys that relieve pressure. With that in mind search for products that can dilate and look at which ones are incompatible with your medications.
Any one (1) of these is beneficial to lower BP.
Omega3 Fish oil, Ginkgo Biloba, Garlic, Celery, Taurine, Arginine, Hawthorn, Niacin Vitamin B-3, vitamin D, Vitamin E, Zinc, Ginseng, Citrulline, Alpha-Linolenic Acid, COQ10, VITAMIN B6. Follow doses as directed.
Don't use salt/sodium. Turmeric, cinnamon, ginger, and pepper raise blood pressure. Avoid foods that constrict arteries.
I am very surprised to find the warning to not take curcumin, ginger, cayenne pepper or cinnamon for hypertension. All 4 of these foods are frequently recommended to have anti-hypertension properties. Just using search words like: 'ginger and hypertension' will bring up so much information. Do your own research to support your health. Blessings to all.
My boyfriend has had high blood pressure for a long long time. Recently, his medication is making him light headed and have adverse effects. He works out daily (military man), we eat an almost vegetarian diet (Only meat is chicken, rarely), we always eat garlic, very healthy foods and spices, basically everything I've read on websites he has done and his lifestyle is as healthy as can be. This man hardly had any fat on him, and theres no major stressors in his life right now. Are there any other remedies someone can think of for him to try? It seems his meds aren't helping but are in fact making him feel worse and it's worrying me. I always tell him about holistic medicine and I want him to try something new. Thanks
(Fountain Inn, Sc)
Re the high blood pressure issue...
Even though you two are eating good food sources and largely vegetarian, even a vegetarian diet might not be getting enough natural (not synthetic) vitamin E.
So if me, to unclog marginal blockage I'd get on Natural E (d alpha tocopherol) for two months. Also I'd add on Magnesium and Potassium.
I'd start at 200 IUs per day for two weeks and increase to 400 and then in two more weeks increase to 600. Vitamin E will slick down blood platelets and veins and arteries so plaque will not build so readily and E is an oxygenator and natural blood thinner. So if on aspirin, I'd get off the aspirin after a few weeks on E.
If my blood pressure did not start coming down with those three then I'd start up on Arginine.
In none of these work I'd think that perhaps a fungal infection was at work. A Live Cell Microscopy would tell if fungus was in the blood stream beyond the norm...Fungus can give off a by product that forms a plaque and that plaque might be overcoming the Vitamin E and all the good vegetable consumption you are doing.
This is kinda long, but, three years ago I started the leptin diet. I have started using coconut oil (3 tbsp per day) as well as cooking, ACV at night with honey, 1 tbsp molasses per day. Before I started doing this I had just cleaned up my diet, my bp ran 100 or lower/60. Now that I have incorporated the above regimen, my blood pressure is running 136/73. What is up with this? I thought getting healthier was good for me.
As a truck driver, I have to keep my blood pressure below 140/90. to get my 2 year med card. My last physical I was way high 180/110. Had to take some time off. Went to doctor got on blood prs pills 20 mg of lisinopril plus a water pill hctz 12.5mg. This worked, and got it down to about 136/86. but he would only give me the pills for three months. The story is longer, but I'll end it here.
Have got it down to 122/76 using apple cid vin. and aloe vera drink. Hibiscus tea. Garlic. Cayenne pepper. My son is in the med field and when he took my blood prs, he wanted to take it again becuse he could not believe I got it down that low without the meds. I drink the aloe vera out of the one gallon jug I got from walgreens. The apple cid vin, I pour into some apple drink. Neither of these tastes good, but if you can get it down its worked for me. Good luck. I will be donating to this site, beats paying the rip off doctor.
High Blood Pressure Remedy: Try drinking two 12oz glasses of Hibiscus Tea. Try finding the organic flowers as this is more potent. In addition to the tea, watch your diet and cook with plenty garlic, cayenne pepper, and curry. All of these herbs are excellent for maintaining normal BP levels. Potassium and Magnesium are good too, you can eat a banana every morning with a cup of oatmeal and take the magnesium supplement right before bed. Last but not least, a brisk 30 minute walk 4 days a week will help as well.
To all who have high blood pressure and have questions regarding magnesium - I improved my high blood pressure dramatically by taking different type of magnesium, but found that mixed form of different types (citrate, chloride and else) works the best. I take 2 pills (400mg) in a morning and 1-2 in the evening. Also - vitamin B6, fist 3 weeks 200mg per day, after that - 100mg per day. Plus - parsley and garlic oil in capsules - 1 cap in the morning (diuretic). If your liver does not work properly - it can lead to high blood pressure.
Also found some info online regarding natural remedies for high blood presure - "Start your day with a cup of cayenne tea - 1 teaspoon in a cup of hot water (I personally think it's too strong, maybe 1/2 tsp?). Plus garlic pill and hawthorn berry 565 mg. Do it 3 times per day. Also 2 tablespoons of organic vinegar in water sometime during the day. Add 1/2 teaspoon of cinnamon to plain yogurt and eat, it will reduce blood pressure instantly."
Oxana, Ontario, Canada