Natural Remedies for COPD

Linda, I'm not sure if mold is one of the symptoms of copd, but I have tried several different remedies for copd on this site with varying results over the last 2 years. Much of it was very helpful to me including the use of 3% hydrogen peroxide spray, according to Bill Munro, along with a 1:1 ratio of 3% H2O2 and distilled water in my nebulizer.

Having a lot more summer humidity this year my breathing got worse and often needed to use my rescue inhaler. Last month I did some research and found out about yamoa powder which I am using with excellent results within a short period of time and breathing much better now. I wish you the best and hope you find a remedy that works as well. Not being able to get a decent breath is very scary.

I am sending this to Vicki from New Zealand and the natural microdose DNA that she purchased for her father. I went to www.iherb.com and could not find it. I did email them and told them that I needed some assistance in locating this product. They emailed me back and said that they could not find it either. I really would like to try some. Could you advise what to do next? I hope your father is doing wonderful. He does not know how lucky he is to have a caring, loving person there to help him out. You go girl!!! Thanks Linda

My father is suffering from COPD (chronic bronchitis and chronic emphysema), he is 57 years old and weighs around 40 kg.He was told about it 6 years back in 2004 untill when he was a chain smoker and left it then only.His fev1 count is only 17%.

He used 35% food grade HP orally according to the given schedule but as soon as he reached 18 drops he felt some extreme symptoms like nausea, headache along with extreme weakness. His heart beat went high up-to 130 bpm and thus he just slacked off on it. He can barely walk and even find it difficult to eat food. I just wanted to ask what is the solution to such extreme symptoms because we don't want to quit so easily as there are not much options left after HP.

Another query i had in my mind was that can anyone tell me that among either oral and inhalation method which one shows better and quick results?

Rv, I have a couple of questions about your post.

1) I just read the Wikipedia article on "Fungal Pneumonia" which is informative but left me wondering... What type of fungus was involved in your case?

2) I'm interpreting your description to mean that you cultured spit (sputum) in sea water to get a more potent viral concentration that would be more effective on the bacteria of your infection. But if it was a "fungal pneumonia" doesn't that mean that it was a fungus involved instead of bacteria?

3) Did you try inhaling any of the sea/salt water before trying the "culturing"? (i.e. , might this work by just inhaling a mist of just plain seawater or perhaps just plain saltwater made from refined table-salt, not from sea-salt?)

I have been taking MSM for a while now and I have to say my asthma/COPD is much improved. However, MSM does contain sulphates which some individuals may be sensitive to and may cause some side effects. I have read from a very good source that this can be largely overcome by taking a supplementation of molybedenum(500mcg). Hope this helps.

(1) UNCERTAIN

Hello Ted and EarthClinic -- Here are some results from Ted's COPD remedy (DMSO and MSM). These tests and results are not very scientific, but we did follow most of Ted's suggestions. TWO middle-aged males --Former Long Term Smokers-- tried the following:

1.) Drank ONE TABLEspoon of (powdered) MSM in 8 oz glass of water. (This stuff tastes TERRIBLE! May try mixing with juice next time.) 30 minutes later, we each inhaled FIFTY (50) deep breaths of 30% DMSO to 70% water. Neither of us noticed any immediate results.

2.) 5 Hours later, we each inhaled ONE HUNDRED (100) deep breaths from the nebulizer, with the same dilution ratio -- Neither of us noticed any immediate results.

3.) DAY TWO: We each inhaled ONE HUNDRED FIFTY (150) deep breaths from the nebulizer, only at 70% DMSO to 30% water. (NOTE: This may be over the ratio that Ted recommends) Still no results were evident. We were hoping for more noticeable/immediate results, but I believe we just didn't stay with it long enough.

4.) We each tried 70% DMSO to 30% water in an ATOMIZER (Nasal type --Afrin bottle-- DO NOT INHALE THROUGH THE NOSE IF YOU TRY THIS--MOUTH ONLY!!) Each took a VERY DEEP BREATH while getting 5-6 pumps out of the ATOMIZER. (THIS ALSO TASTED UNBELIEVABLY BAD!). Still, no obvious results.

We are suspending our experiments until we decide which approach to continue. I WILL POST ANY ADDITIONAL RESULTS, OR COMMENTS RECEIVED FROM TED. Thanks to EARTHCLINIC AND TED !!

I will email this to Ted and hope he can add some additional comments or suggestions. My questions to Ted, his availability allowing are:

1.) Should we continue with 150 deep inhales of 70% DMSO per day?
2.) If so, about how many days of treatment until we would expect some results?
3.) What are your thoughts on the 70% DMSO/30% water via ATOMIZER?
4.) Are the MSM AND NIACIN (500 MG/DAY, NON TIME RELEASE) crucial to success?
5.) Any other comments or suggestions?

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06/24/2009

TED'S RESPONSE TO MY EMAIL AND SUGGESTIONS:

A DMSO may dissolve the tar if the congestion is caused by a tar. If the lungs were damaged physically of non tar in nature, the DMSO won't work. A curcumin taken a couple of times a day or a curcumin mixture with DMSO appears more suitable. A 70% DMSO may hurt the throat or lungs as concentration maybe too high for some people.

1.) Should we continue with 150 deep inhales of 70% DMSO per day?

Most improvement appears that some DMSO was taken internally and some DMSO nebulizers were used but the improvement is a gradual one. A clogged capillaries or a damaged one can be due to tar, calcium or tissue damage. A tissue damage then some healing is needed with a curcumin supplements.

2.) If so, about how many days of treatment until we would expect some results?

It takes at least a month. A short term two or three days would get any results. It's done gradually.

3.) What are your thoughts on the 70% DMSO/30% water via ATOMIZER?

Some people don't like the 70% DMSO as it stings their nose and throat. While its result maybe faster, it maybe irritating.

4.) Are the MSM AND NIACIN (500 MG/DAY, NON TIME RELEASE) crucial to success?

I don't like Niacin use because of the flush, but I do like the addition of MSM and DMSO. A niacin use may help some breathing but never time release. An aspirin taken 30 minutes before a niacin used will stop the flush and may help the capillary circulation into the lungs to be return to some extent by clearing some blocked circulation. But this doesn't resolve the calcification that may occur also.

5.) Any other comments or suggestions?

A damage lung tissue requires healing, and this is where curcumin comes in, taken internally or perhaps what I am looking into is the possibility of adding only a small amount of curcumin as a nebulizer. That's just the current possibilities I am looking into. If it take years for COPD to happen getting results in a matter of days is not possible. An objective measure appears to be a blood oxygen test but after a month's of use. Not all COPD are due to tar, but can also be tissue damage in the lungs, and hence the curcumin. A capillaries may be clogged not from the tar, but also fats and calcium has to be considered also.

Ted

My husband suffers copd, he gets a lot of chest infections and has been told by the Doctor that he has to try something else to try and cure his infections, i was reading about colloidal silver, can he use it in his nebulizer with his asthma treatment and how many times a day, thank you.

I have found when exposed to heating anything on a stove without oil or water: my COPD/Asthma is triggered

THE ASTHMA/COPD CURE

I have asthma/COPD, after many years of suffering with no end in sight(not to mention the $ on medical appointments, prescriptions and ER visits), I read previous posts promising ACV (RAW/UNFILTERED ORGANIC APPLE CIDER VINEGAR INCLUDING THE MOTHER) and change of diet (no processed food/no dairy products)as a cure.

I started by taking 2 tsp twice a day, and completely changing my diet. I have not felt the need to taken any prescriptions since, except when I challenge my diet and eat so little as 2 oreo cookies or even 3 bites of ice cream. And instead of my rescue inhaler I take 2 Tbs *my shots.

*my shots

2 TBS acv

2 cloves fresh garlic

2 lg pieces fresh ginger

2 lemons

2 Tbs local raw honey (or best MANUKA HONEY)

Hi Kimmi, may I ask where you source the NAC from? We used to be used to get it here but now it's off the market . Appreciate your info

How many MG's are your pills of NAC?

What stage of Copd are you at?

Hi BevilNC, do you have personal experience with the Vitamin A approach? From my research this seems to have some promising outcomes, but there is some downsides to Vitamin A overdosing..

Hi Gina, don't know if you are still around hon, as your question was asked in 2021. You asked which IP6 Inositol was good for sleep? I am very familiar with IP6 GOLD! BUT NEVER HEARD OF IP6 INOSITOL? IP6 GOLD WAS MADE BY DR. SHAMSHUDDIN who created it for Cancer. If you take IP6 Gold he states if you take 2 am 2 pm, it should stop you from getting cancer, so taking it before you get it? Then 4 x 4 capsules if you have cancer mild, etc. but if you have cancer 8 capsules am 8 capsules pm! Someone said this was cheap? I am sad to say I don't agree there. That is, if you had terminal cancer, okay if you can afford it though! You get 240 capsules and I paid about £70 plus for 1 tub. Good if you only need say 4 a day but at 16 capsules a day I think its under 3 weeks treatment? Hence my saying it is expensive, if you don't have a lot of cash that is, but well worth it if it saves ones life! I believe in this man! I wrote to him once trying to save my friends hubby, who sadly died the day I sent an email to her. But I bought it but still unused, now you was talking about IP6 Inositol? I dont think it exists with that title? I could be wrong but I think IP6 Gold is the one for cancer, and plain INOSITOL is the one you might need for insomnia? Not that I knew it was for that? I have always known inositol to be brilliant for severe agoraphobia? Like panic attacks but you still need to take a large amount of capsules! But for insomnia not too sure, you certainly wouldnt need a lot and just inositol is quite cheap, not anywhere near the price of IP6 Gold. Take a look at just the word inositiol? Or just type into google "Is inositol good for insomnia?" And you should get your answer, hope this is of help if you still around. Of course there might be an IP6 Inositol, if there is I have never seen it, just IP6 GOLD or inositol by itself. Best wishes Rosina Lock from London UK

I am curious, too. On a whim, have you tried omitting tomatoes and other nightshades from your diet? They can be inflammatory, and cause dandruff and scalp issues in some people.

Best wishes.

Any suggestion for C.O.P D? I've been drinking Colloidal Silver for a year. And nebulizing FG H202. I still get shortness of breath.
Anything I could add, or try?

Thanks, Lorie

Hi Art.

I definitely would like to know what you will share about Copd. I have severe Copd and need help. Thanks.

Hi Art. Sorry to be a bug but was wondering I when the post will posted. Thanks.

BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS

Hi, I've been taking MSM for COPD which has helped enormously but after a month I've come out in blotches down both sides of my torso so have stopped taking it. I feel fine but it's been 2 weeks and the blotches are no better. Please help! Thanks, Sarah

Are they peppermint tea bags? And how much honey to a cup of tea thank you?

Hi, I picked up some H202 3/% the brand is Gold Cross here in Australia. I am using the spray method but it seems to burn the back of my throat and I can't feel any difference. Any advice?

I do not believe that you threw out your inhalers by just using the peroxide solution. I did it for years without results.

There has been no real proof that Hydrogen peroxide works for COPD.

Hi. I inhaled 3% food grade hydrogen Peroxide in my nebuilzer.

Why do you say H2O2 is "elusive" to obtain? Go to Amazon, you'll find all you want.

After getting Prevar 13, I had green putty like mucus in my nose, which came out in chunks. 7 months later I got RSV with pneumonia. Now on oxygen. Simbicort and, Spriva and nebulizer.

You say 2 droppers of peroxide, describe, 3% or 35% food grade

C.S. comes in many dilutions. Could someone say what ppm they are using?

I have been getting the 99.9 dmso from the farm store. This is my first use of this kind. I watered it down and used it on my ankle and the skin literally peeled off for days and it itched. Since then I have been afraid to use it. What do you think?

Hi, I emailed Bill about using hp and as yet have not received an answer from anyone, can you please tell me what kind of information he needs before he will reply?
I started taking 3% drug store hp and still using my copd meds ( advair & combivent inhailers) and the last two days I have been very shaky and had problem with nerves it only lasts a few hours but I am concerned should I stop using hp?
My husband started at same time I did and feels burning in chest. Please let us know what we should do. Thank you Billy

Hi Allan,

Cellfood is the name of the product, it is an excellent supplementary support for any health issue. I've used it for years.

Cheers Marlane

Thanks Marlane, Haven't been on for some time. Have started some integrative medicine but will try and purchase the cell food.

Please tell me more about cell food and what it is.

I was diagnosed with COPD 9 years ago cause unknown , never been a smoker. In the last couple of years I've noticed a steady decline in my health, meds and inhalers don't seem to be helping anymore. Just lately I've heard of treatments with cell food and also H2O2 all have been from American and Canadian sufferers, and web sites, I'd like to hear from anyone especially Aussies in Victoria Gippsland region who have tried either of these two methods and what sort of results they've had. I'd like to try the h2o2 but I'm a bit nervous about trying it. I guess I need some reassurances.

Have used Cell Food but prefer Oxygen Elements Max by Global Health Trax. However I feel that H2O2 food grade is the most powerful but lacks micro nutrients of Cell Food and Oxygen Elements.

I've just started OP with Sunflower oil. I have been told that I have COPD with 1/4 decrease in lung function. Has anyone been helped with OP ? If so what oil should I use?

Try typing in Salmon DNA like I did. She said to search for it that way. I found it. Good luck.

After numerous searches & great difficulty I found this product... Called Mucolyxir from an organic pharmacy in NC.

Separately, a high daily dose of D3 (do get tested! ), a garlic/habanero pepper tincture, systemic enzymes and daily exercise have kept me pneumonia free for the first year in over 10 yrs. This is a blessing and I hope you find yours! Not all products work for all people.

Thank you Alain.I really appreciate your effort .

Can you please tell me if is it possible that food grade Hydrogen Peroxide when taken orally reduces the spo2 level in blood.I am asking this because for the past 3 -4 days we are noticing a quick decrease in spo2 levels of my father even when oxygen is been taken externally.

Can it be assumed as a possible side effect of hydrogen peroxide since his fev1 count is only 17%?

Could you please tell me how to use this? The dosages

As for the COPD, I personally helped a senior improve her COPD....she was on an inhaler/concentrator and nebulizer, could barely make it from bed past the door to her room at the nursing home, she was a roomate of moms. I asked if she would like to try something, she agreed and I gifted her a baggy of apple cider vinegar capsules, to take 3,3 times a day, within 10 days, she was up and out of bed, hardly on the oxygen concentrator or nebulizer, she was much improved and never complained about the ACV, which I credited to Earth Clinic and told her too, she knows and said she'd tell her daughter where to look and what to get for her.