My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 COPD in December 2014. He started on H2O2 that Christmas and is still going. He stopped the peroxide in the following March and after a rerun of hip surgery caught a cold which resulted in atttacks of both viral and bacterial pneumonia in five weeks. We thought he wouldn't make it. He went back on the peroxide and at 80 is still able to run his little business repairing antiques and other furniture (He has workers to do the actual repairs but supervises everything).
He is on about 12 drops twice a day diluted according to the protocol and also nebulizes 3ml 3% twice a day and has a humidfier with an even more dilute solution running all night. He is on an oxygenator at night but can manage if there is a power cut.
I think it is the peroxide that has kept him alive and well enough to still enjoy life and feel useful.
I know it was a long time ago, but do you remember any more details about how Yerba Santa saved that man's life? What ailment did he have and how did he use Yerba Santa?
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Wow GabbySue you're a wild woman. Definitely go slow and follow the instructions. Robert yes we younguns do!
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Bill Munro used his hydrogen peroxide inhalation method for years with success. When we have used hydrogen peroxide in the nebulizer, we have used it "as needed, " but we were only using it for an acute cough.
I am wondering how many times a day are you using it currently?
~Mama to Many~
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I have been trying the 2-1 method with hydrogen peroxide---3% and water in my nebulizer. Helps with my breathing so much. I use it whenever necessary. I want to know how often is too often?
I experienced some negative side effects from nebulizing a combo of Colloidal Silver & Hydrogen Peroxide (maybe used too much H2O2), so did some research and found some warnings that it can be too strong so please be advised to go at this w/ caution. Maybe do a daily rotation of C.S. then H2O2 and if not getting desired results start w/ a very minimal amount of oxygen to silver ratio.
Leonard Harrowitz used to sell an Oxygen/Silver product advertised as the most potent natural antibiotic called "OxySilver". He and his wife have since divorced and I assume she got the retail business, but I think the product is still available.
Can you indicate what brand and strength of colloidal silver you would use? Thanks
Can you indicate how your husband has been doing since using the colloidal silver mixed with hydrogen peroxide? What is the brand that you bought? Thanks
25 hydroxy D (the test name) it is a measurement of your Vit D through blood work. The level at least 60-80 ng/mL is optimum health don't accept NORMAL as good enough to heal, it is not.
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May I suggest, when performing a breathing treatment, H2O2, CS, DMSO, whatever, exhale as deeply as possible, inhale as deeply as possible and hold up to 10 seconds. As we repeat the process, we begin to breath in deeper and deeper, getting our chosen solution to the bottom of our lungs. Normal breathing only goes down into our lungs about 20% - 30% of their capacity.
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HI U GABBYSUE, , , , , , , , , , Hammer meet nail. Girl you right about this. 3 % is OK via mouth inhalation , but not with a nebulizer as we have learned. We cut the 3% H2O2 by half to avoid the burning.
With a Southern double name, you got to be of my generation. That just does not happen any more. Folks now all expect their younguns to be in the movies so they give them a Hollywood name to start with. Glad you have recovered and go slow as you indicated. Don't stop, just slow down.
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I have copd and I kept reading of h2o2 inhulation therapy. I started Bill Munro's regime, but not faithfully. One weekend I decided to go at it aggressively. I did the nasal spray in the throat, plus I added it to my nebulizer. A little works, so A LOT should really do it, right ? I did not measure it, I just added h202 straight. Did not help my breathing because I had loosened whatever is in my lungs, and blocked my air. My husband had to call 911. My O2 was in the 50's and I blacked out. Had to be on by-pap for 2 days.
I am not telling anyone not to do the inhulation, I am saying do not try to over do it for faster results!! I may even try it again, but follow the instructions that were so clearly given.
For my COPD, I put about twenty drops of 35% HP with my cpap water and it works great.
Also, my doctor told me to take 3 capsules of cayenne pepper plus apple cider vinegar. I have seen improvements.
Dennis, you might want to read up on Bill Monroe's inhalation of hydrogen peroxide.
If I had been diagnosed with COPD...
Taking Colloidal Silver orally probably wouldn't help too much the COPD but using the CS in an inhaler/steamer might help. So I'd get an inhaler at a Drug store and use the CS every night for a month. I'd just go that long to see if there was any improvement. IF the COPD is caused by a virus or fungus or bacteria, in theory the CS might help since the silver would be killing the infection. But if the COPD is not caused by infection then then I'd expect to see no improvement over the month of using the CS.
I use CS every day...twice daily in fact because I believe the CS kill virus infection system wide and as I age my immune system is not working as well as when I was young. So I'm not advising you NOT to take CS orally, but rather telling you that oral consumption won't likely show up in a short time as dealing with COPD. The more I can get the CS directly onto the target area the better it works.
I just got diagnosed with c.o.p.d. I was born with asrma bronchitis and hay fever; am on cardezam 360 due to atrial fibrilation taking symbicort low dosage. Told most c.o.p.d. patients live 25 years. Trials and research talk most of the time is unreliable, for example t.b is cured with gold collodial yet we are told there is no cure. If the ama or pharmacuetical board cannot get a patent, then they tell you what you're taking is wrong. The 1936 medical journal supported gold collodial use. The ama had the fda refuse to let the collodial continue because no money could be made.
Do you know if colloidal silver has any affect on c.o.p.d.? I also am on warafan for my blood clots I take 400 mg. daily of magnesium , tuna fish and sardines. Does this help at all? I also walk every day until I get tired. Any advice would be well appreciated.
I've used food grade h2o2 for copd and had some success- need to get more and try again-it is almost elusive to obtain!!
One compound pharmacy had to ask the boss if they could sell it as... they use h2o2 to make a lot of medicine! I got some from them-expensive-then contacted a BIG wholesale chemical company that gave me a pint or 2 for free as they sell it in 55 gallon drums-not too drastic for so much!
It does oxygenate and many diseases cannot live in an oxygen rich environment.
It may have some side effects that are not that nice- so watch out and I'd say (altho I am NOT a physician at all), use in moderation and probably not needed long term-continually. Experiment a little- see how you feel, I wager it will help in the right dose and over X amount of time depending on your condition
On another note - if you do have any further knowledge of h2o2 effects on hemochromatosis PLEASE email me asap
Dave: gnomad56 (at) gmail [dot] com
You can get a $10 air brush from harbor freight, put this on any air source ( tank, etc, ), and it will be a great nebulizer.
I started to pass out one day when I tried to blow up 3 balloons in a row. I will try again, but slowly. It was pretty scary cause it was like my equilibrium went ou and I started falling over. I sure need to build my lungs up and at this point am willing to try again.
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I also have been using the h2o2 in a spray that I spray in my throat about 5 times a day, about 6 sprays. I use the drugstore 3% as I am afraid to use the food grade. I bought some and it leaked out of the bottle and burned my fingers; that was enough to scare me even though I know it has to be diluted. The drug store one is fine and have been using it for over a year. I won't go on any inhalers; they don't cure anything and as far as relieving symptoms who needs that. The symptoms are there to tell you something is wrong. I also spray colloidal through an inhaler. By inhaler I mean the one you buy at the drugstore using the Bill Murey method. I use that 3 times a day. It has really helped. I also use 6 drops of p73 Oregano oil to boost immune system. I use that for about 2 weeks and then go off for at least two weeks. I bought the book "How I reversed My Mom's COPD" It helped a lot to see how the medicine from the pharmaceuticals are making you worse and adding to the problem. If you look up what virus causes COPD coxsackie virus was one of them. I probably have that spelled wrong.
The best to all of you, love the site. Yolanda
I should warn you that hydrogen peroxide is reactive and corrosive. If you combine it with other stuff it will break down the other stuff, rendering it useless or converting it into other stuff that is either useless or harmful that you don't want in your body. So only inhale H2O2 if you haven't inhaled other treatments in a few hours, and will not be inhaling other treatments in a few hours. AVOID all treatments containing metals (silver, magnesium, etc) for 24 hours if using H2O2.
If my breathing has been really bad for a while, H2O2 helped sometimes. But it seems that whatever "cleaning" effect it has, it had no more beneficial effects after the lungs were cleaned with it. Perhaps people who are frequently breathing dirty environments, pollution, smoke, or regularly getting lung infections can benefit from regular use of H2O2.
Otherwise a few days in a row for cleaning out the lungs every few weeks or months might be good enough for some in good, clean, safe, healthy environments.
People with air filters, AC, & relatively clean air around them may not see any improvement from regular H2O2 treatments.
You may not need to mix H2O2 with distilled water. Pour a teaspoon of H2O2 in a small glass of your tap water. If it doesn't bubble or foam like crazy, or only bubbles a little bit, there's not much bad in it to react to, so you can mix it with ordinary tap water.
I've read coffee and caffeine may be bad for COPD. It turns out it is only bad for some of the meds you may be taking.
My COPD was so bad that I couldn't walk across the room or go to the bathroom without desperately gasping for air. Getting laid off because of breathing problems, losing my health insurance, & being on a tight budget, I gave up coffee because I could no longer afford it, and they said it was bad for me.
After some research I had discovered that caffeine is very similar chemically to some meds used to treat COPD. I traced my steps back to the last time I could walk across a room without gasping for air. It was before I ran out of coffee and gave it up!
I desperately went to my cabinet and got out some caffeine tablets I had from the days of my night-shift work, and took a tablet. These were the bigger strong ones. I used to only use a half a tablet for night-work because they were so strong. But for this experiment I took a whole one.
A whole one was too much. Got the shakes, and an uneasy stomach. Breathing only improved slightly during the first hour. During the second hour, breathing was remarkably better. After the second hour I was breathing better than I had in months!
The speedy/hyper effects of the caffeine had diminished considerably after a couple hours, but the breathing was still improving. I continued to breathe much better for 5 hours after taking the caffeine, before I noticed my breathing was starting to get slightly worse again.
I continued experimenting with different doses at different times to see what worked best. Rather than buy more coffee, I continued on using the caffeine "stay awake" tablets to formulate an accurate dosage/treatment scheme.
This is what works for me these days. I take a normal cup of coffee in the morning with a small caffeine tablet. The tablets are about half the size of the original ones, so are much weaker. It turns out more is NOT better. So if you have one of those special or exotic coffee makers that deliver a very strong caffeinated beverage, you might want to skip the tablets entirely.
Caffeine is a drug and a stimulant. If you have too much it will de-sensitze you to it, causing you to need more with less of the beneficial effect. Also too much will make you hyper or nervous so you'll burn more oxygen and get an upset stomach. So be sensible. Use only what you need, using too much will only make things worse.
I usually don't need any more caffeine for at least 5 hours. At that time, around lunch time or hours after, another ordinary cup of coffee is enough. But if my breathing has gotten considerably worse, I may take only 1/2 of one of those small caffeine tablets with the coffee. Again, I must stress, if you are having a strong coffee or strong caffeinated beverage you may skip the tablet.
AVOID Red Bull or other caffeinated beverages and energy drinks that may have other stuff in them you don't want or may be bad for you and your other treatments!
Just before, during, or after dinner time (depending on my breathing) I may have another cup of coffee. Many days I can skip it because I'm still breathing good enough. Other days if it has gotten real bad, I'll take another half a caffeine tablet with the coffee.
Again, I must stress, more or too much is NOT better. Take only the amount of caffeine you need to breath a little better. Taking too much will de-sensitize you to it, and the treatment won't work or work well anymore. Don't be impatient. You may notice only a slight improvement after 20-60 minutes of taking caffeine. The significant improvement will happen after the first hour, and continue for many hours.
2-4 hours before bedtime I might have another cup of coffee if my breathing is getting bad again. That way the speedy effects are almost worn off by bedtime so I can sleep well. However if my breathing is so bad that I can't get ready for bed or sleep safely, I'll also take a half a caffeine tablet with the coffee, and decide to stay up a few hours later until my breathing is better.
I find usually if I had a caffeine tablet or a half of one with my coffee, the next time or the next 2 times I do not need a caffeine tablet with my coffee, or can go longer without coffee. The tablets I'm using now only have about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee. So a cup with a tablet is like having 2 coffees. A cup with a half a tablet is like having a large coffee.
So I'm only having the equivalent of 4-6 regular ordinary cups of coffee a day in caffeine, and unlike the coffee guzzlers at work or at most jobs, it's spread out through the whole day, not just squeezed into an 8 hour work shift.
Check with your doctor to make sure it's safe to drink coffee with the meds you're taking. However, if you're having very strong coffee, or taking caffeine tablets, you might want to stop taking the other meds for that day anyway & see how things go.
Caffeine can conflict with other meds... especially meds that are stimulants that have ingredients in them that end in the letters "ene" or "ine", or steroids. They do not mix well with coffee.
So if caffeine is so similar to other COPD meds chemically why aren't doctors recommending it, or telling you to avoid it? Doctors and drug companies won't make much money if they tell you ordinary cheap coffee is almost the same thing as the meds.
I've recently changed my coffee recipe for even better results. A slightly weaker coffee with a little chocolate, sugar, and milk is even better. They say avoid sugar because it burns O2. BS! Any energy you burn will require O2. Sugar is the quickest was to ingest energy without spending a lot of resources & O2 digesting and processing it. So unless you're already overweight, enjoy your sugar.
I use a weaker cup of instant coffee now. Only a single level teaspoon of cheap generic instant coffee in hot water. 2.5 teaspoons of sugar. 1 heaping teaspoon of Nesquick instant chocolate milk (also has a little caffeine & antioxidants in it), and 1 heaping teaspoon of dry milk. Don't worry if you're lactose intolerant, a teaspoon of low fat dry milk doesn't have enough lactose to bother most people. So you're getting a little protein, vitamin D, calcium, energy & other nutrients with every cup. It's also delicious.
The little bit of low fat dry milk won't generate extra mucus, or slimy spit. I've tried many different recipes over almost a year now. The chocolate instant coffee recipe seems to improve the breathing the best.
The second best was cinnamon (lots of antioxidant) instead of chocolate in the coffee. But I had to use 3 heaping teaspoons of sugar instead of 2.5 for the taste & energy boost I needed. Yum!
With the new chocolate recipe, on a good day, I only need a caffeine tablet with the coffee in the the morning and can avoid more tablets with the coffee for the rest of the day or until the evening. Some good days I may only have 2 cups!
But there are still occasionally bad days where I still need a half tablet with every cup (up to 6 cups a day) to get through a day even with the chocolate.
Grapefruit juice is another daily treatment I use. Again, it had chemicals similar to some meds you may be taking so check with your doctor first or discontinue the meds for the day to see how it works for you. It is safe to take grapefruit juice with caffeine though.
Grapefruit juice is also some pretty potent stuff, so more is not better, and too much can make things worse. Because I need to sleep at night, I usually take about 8 oz. of grapefruit juice after dinner or a couple hours before bedtime. That way I need very little or no caffeine to help me breathe & can sleep better.
Air conditioning! Humidity is the enemy for most of us.That's why it's better to take a bath than a shower too. Showers put too much humidity into the air.
Keep the air cool and dry. Humidity of 40% is ideal for COPD sufferers. Some people can't take it much drier than that, but others are fine down to 0%. Keep it cool. The molecules & oxygen in the air are closer together at cooler temperatures. So you're getting more O2 per breath when the air is cooler.
Blow up a balloon in the hot sun on a hot humid day. Then put the balloon in the fridge for an hour. See how much it shrank? There's just as much O2 in there as before but it's more concentrated so takes up less space. More O2 per breath!
Wear heavy sweatshirts, hoodies, and sweatpants & other warm stuff inside to keep warm, and crank up the AC. Keep it in the 60s F (16-21C) to breathe better. The cool dry are will also slow or stop the growth of mold & bacteria that can be growing in the walls, drains, under the toilet rim, litter box, & other places you can't see it. That stuff thrives on warm or humid damp air.
Don't let the air get stale and de-oxygenated though. Crack the windows open at least a couple times a day to refresh the air. Even in the freezing winter. Turn up the heat or sit in front of an electric heater while the air is being refreshed in winter. It won't take long to refresh the air a little so you can close them again.
Cooking consumes a lot of O2, expels CO, CO2, dirties up the air, and heats the place up, so it's the best time to crack open the kitchen window to let in fresh air during winters.
Can afford that? Keep a small safe room that is always air conditioned, air filtered, and regularly refreshed, to retreat to... like your bedroom. It's pretty cheap to keep 1 small room conditioned well to escape to. Put a TV, computer, and projects to do in there to pass the time with on bad breathing days.
Avoid fireplaces, wood stoves, campfires, and other open flames & fires. They're very, very, bad for COPD. I have to stay home for Christmas and Thanksgiving because family insists they must have logs burning on a fire even though I can't breathe. Ironically my Mom passed away with COPD, but they have forgotten she couldn't breathe near a wood fire either.
Don't like the nasty looks they give me when I start coughing up goo either, so I'm glad to stay home during the holidays anyway.
Air filters! Although your small 400-500 watt window AC has a filter in it that helps, it will only trap large particles or hair, & a few contaminants may condense and stick to the cold damp AC core to be drained to the outside (so yes, they will clean the air a little). Even if you can only afford a couple $40 walmart portable air filters for a small bedroom they do help a lot. H2O2 may not help much if you're already breathing relatively clean air most of the time or overnight when the dirt settles in the lungs the most.
The disposable filters inside can cost almost as much as the units, & may need to be replaced in 3 months. But there's ways around that. Open up the unit to get at the replaceable filters. Tape a thin, cheap, sheet of single ply generic toilet paper over the front of the paper filter assembly. The cheapest version of Scot toilet paper works best for me. Replace the paper every 1-2 months (if you have pets & kids around once a month). The replaceable filters in mine have lasted 19 months so far, and seems like I'll get them to last over 2 years.
I used to desperately gasp for air just walking across the room or going to the bathroom every day for months. With the caffeine, grapefruit juice, AC, & filters, I can get most of my household chores, cooking, and eating done almost every day good enough. I can walk 8 blocks to get groceries, & carry them home, taking a rest for a few minutes every block or so now.
I live on the second floor. I can go downstairs to check my mail every day without much problems now. No cure, but much better than before.
Well, it is Sept 12,2014 now and wondering how you are now doing? How has the VCO continued to work for you? I sure hope you see this comment! I am new to the copd family and am reading everything I can. Please respond....
Try the Buteyko breathing method. Colloidal silver is awesome, so is Cellfood
For COPD, the following supplements have helped me a lot:
Twice a day:
- CoQ10 - two 60 mg (take w/food that has fat)
- NAC - 600 mg
- Vit D3 - 10,000 IU
- Vit C - 1000 minimum
- MSM - 2000 units
And once a day:
- A good multivitamin
- L Carnitine
- Acetyl L Carnitine
- Calcium (I make eggshell calcium, take with vit C)
- B - 50 complex
- Turmeric (I just put it in capsules)
- Thyme (same, I put it in capsules)
- Milk Thistle
Oil of oregano if I'm getting sick, ACV with baking soda per Ted several times a week. No dairy, no sugar, organic veggies and fruit if you can afford them. No fake food, real butter, coconut oil EVERY DAY. H2O2 in my nebulizer some days (there's a section on here about that).
Wow! Looks like a ton of pills, doesn't it. But now I use a rescue inhaler only once a day (Ventolin HFA), some days not at all. I'm now able to walk more, started exercising, feeling and breathing better now than I have in the past two years.
Yes to blowing up balloons! I have COPD and started the balloon regiment, it really does help. I posted this on a group page and others have posted positive results. One guy said that he's blowing up big punch balls with no shortness of breath. Easy and cheap to do. Lots of fun if you have a dog and let the balloon go squeeeeeek when you let the air out.
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Just an update - I'm still using h2o2 in my nebulizer. I now use 2 droppers of peroxide to 2 droppers of distilled water. I feel better than ever, starting to exercise. I don't use my prescribed Flovent Disk much at all because I hate the side effects. I still use my Ventolin HFA for emergencies.
This time of year, the humidity causes me real problems. I have a dehumidifier running and take cheapo, Dollar Store Allergy Relief ($6). Those two things plus the nebulized h2o2 have helped more than any of the high dollar prescriptions.
We do need to remember that all of this isn't a one size fits all. Some things work better for others.
For my COPD, I use food grade Peroxide. It is 35% so it must be diluted. 1 drop of peroxide to 11 drops of water gives you about a 3% solution. Also, use purified water. I'm using 3 drops peroxide with 33 drops water in a nebulizer. I'm much better than I was. It's not a cure but it sure helps.
I have been using 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide for my copd and it has all but gone completely. I put 3 drops of hydrogen peroxide in a 8 oz glass of water and drink it three times a day adding one drop daily until reaching 25 drops and then staying on 25 drops for 5 days and then working back one drops less each day until I reach 3 drops daily for one week. and then check your status.
The use of the device "Powerlung" or a generic equivalent, would achieve the same purpose and maybe more. It is said that many athletes, particularly competitive and Olympians use powerlung devices to increase their respiratory function.
I believe a lot of what Edgar Casey said.
Edgar Cayce's book Handbook for Health says he never knew anyone that did not recover from COPD if they would blow up 7 or 8 balloons a day. Certainly worth a try.
H2O2 inhalation for COPD: I'm having good results with peroxide in my nebulizer. I have diluted food grade hydrogen peroxide (diluted to 3%) in a glass eyedropper. I put distilled water into another eyedropper. Two droppers of peroxide and three droppers of water seems to be the dosage that works for me. I had a bit of an irritation in my throat when I went a little stronger.
Twice I did a lot of deep breathing with the nebulizer and got a little light headed. Took me a while before I realized that I was just hyperventilating. So just do your regular breathing.
I find that if I haven't used it for several days, I'll have a bit of phlegm so I have to clear my throat a few times. My thinking is that it's loosening up the crud in my lungs and that's not a bad thing!
Thanks to EC and the people that take the time to post. It's all so helpful to read everyone's experiences.
I am shocked! It has been 4 days since I did a "breathing treatment" In 40 years, I have never gone 4 days without some kind of asthma treatment. In the last 6 months, I was doing prescription nebulizer treatments 3 or 4 times a day...until I found this information about DMSO and Colloidal Silver. I used both of this for several weeks without using any prescription medicine, BIG improvement! Then I decided to go one step further and added 1 tsp of coconut oil which I take 3 or 4 times a day. After a week of the added coconut oil, I quit using the nebulizer treatments with DMSO and Colloidal Silver. Yesterday I started wheezing, wheezed for 5 minutes and then coughed up some nice thin mucus and the wheezing stopped. The coconut oil has radically thinned my chest mucus which I cough up easily and frequently. Y'all I am so happy! This is a new life for this old lady. I am planning to take some big steps in the near future. 3 months ago I thought I would be dead in 2 years or less. Thanks for great information!!
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I have been using DMSO and colloidal silver for two or three weeks now. There have been several days that I had to use an albuterol inhaler once a day due to wheezing but that is so much better than using a nebulizer 4-5a day wit albuterol! So....I am using DMSO and colloidal silver twice a day in my nebulizer. I mix 3cc of DMSO, 7CC COLLOIDOL SIVER AND 3cc. Purified water. I put 2cc of this mix in the nebulizer twice day as previously stated. I cough up yellow stuff many times a day, which I believe is residue from previous lung infections. I now have hope for a better quality of life for many years. I am stronger than I was a week before starting this treatment. I am also going to be starting MSM soon for asthma and allergies And various aches and pains.
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I want Bill Munroe to know that my COPD has responded amazingly to his H202 inhalation therapy. I'm not sure everyone inhales as they spray, but I do, and hold my breath awhile so it can really have plenty of time in there and I don't even count how often I do it. I keep 3 sprayers filled with 3% hydrogen peroxide from Walmart at all times. Nothing in this world could be easier with this most amazing result. I've used it for months now and will NEVER be without it. You're a lifesaver, Bill.