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Posted by Rick Davis (Va) on 12/03/2013

Hello. I am trying to reduce my bad cholesterol. I am taking CoQ10, vit E, niacin, vit D3, glutathione and the occasional red rice yeast. The rry dose says 1 gelcap 3X/day. I take 1 and get a cramp in my calf. If I take 1/d, the cramp lingers and I get a cramp in both feet. So, I take 1 only every several days. I eat mainly vegetables, but do not have 100% control over my diet--my retired spouse does the cooking and starts off by putting oil into a frying pan, only then figureing out what will be cooked. I leave the house at 5 am and get home at 7 pm, so not much time to prepare food myself or even shop for fresh items. I do the best I can, eating oats every day, an apple a day, raw carrots with my lunch, etc. Should I be doing anything else? I was on statins years ago and still feel like I have foot pain caused by statins, That's why the glutathione. Please tell me what else to do.

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Posted by Elaine (Al) on 11/21/2013

Thanks, Timh. I eat what I consider a pretty good diet. I have chickens and have had them tested for salmonella, so I can eat raw eggs and generally eat 2/day. I also was given a gift of 1/2 an organically grown, grass-fed steer for Christmas, so have high quality angus beef to eat (I don't eat much red meat). I eat lots of avocados and use coconut oil exclusively when cooking, try to use lots of herbs and spices (ginger, garlic, tumeric, etc) in my foods. Not a lot of fresh veg's b/c they are now out of season and my local farmer's market has closed, so mostly frozen. thanks for the assist, will start bs & empsom salts baths. I ordered a seperate coQ10 and glutathione and will commence when they arrive. Thanks again.


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Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/21/2013 2077 posts

Elaine: Swanson Foods has one, as well as Vitacost L-Glutathione Plus CoQ10 -- 250 mg - 60 Capsules. This will definitely up your energy and help detox any residual statin metabolites, but do also try the other recommends I posted previously as it seems you will need more than just gth/coq10. Eat 2 or three Brazil nuts for selenium to boost the gth/coq10.

Are you vegetarian? Do get some quality protein in the diet.

Something else that will definitely help straightway, is a good hot bath w/ 1/2 cup baking soda and 1/2 cup epsom salt. This is very good detox and muscle helper. Potassium is also recommended to improve the electrolyte status which helps the neuromuscular action.

Hoping on some good news from you.


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Posted by Elaine (Huntsville, Al) on 11/20/2013

Timh, thanks for your advice. I did a search but could not locate a coQ10 that includes glutathione. Is there one? I pretty much use iherb. I can do both supplements. I'm so tired of being in constant pain, not severe but enough to slow me down. Thanks again.


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Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/20/2013 2077 posts

Elaine: Try Glutathione/CoQ10 combination for best results which should help w/ energy but for the ldl do take the red yeast rice twice daily plus a flush free niacin like niacinamide or inositol hexaniacinate 1 500mg 2x day. For the muscle loss take BCAA's and or Creatine (C also enhances muscle energy production very effectively).

Also, I have had very good results w/ L-Methionine 500 or 1000mg daily for fat burning. DMG works very well w/ Methionine for energy production and fat burning plus boosted detoxification.

You may also want to consider supplementing Coconut oil to enhance metabolism; lots of good reports on c.o. here. A good source of natural Iodine like Kelp will help metabolism by enhancing thyroid function. L-Tyrosine 500 mg daily will also boost thyroid and energy production. High ldl is almost always a side effect of low thyroid.


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Posted by Gavin (Northland, New Zealand) on 11/19/2013

I read after a good try out with lemons that after a few weeks the first sign of a zit or boil, is the sign to knock it off. I started to get some boils forming for no good reason. Otherwise the results were excellent. In fact I had never felt better.


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Posted by Elaine (Huntsville, Al) on 11/19/2013

TimH: If I take CoQ10 for relief of pain from statins I took years ago, then I have another question. My ldl is still high, so can I take red yeast rice w/ coQ10 in it and then more CoQ10 for more relief? I still need to reduce that ldl, but I started getting a cramp in my calf from the rry, so stopped it. It has coQ10 in it, but I'm still in pain from the zocor. Thanks.


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Posted by Rsw (Uniontown, Oh) on 11/18/2013

Elaine,

There is a Yahoo Group for people who have permanent damage from statin drug use. Most of the people only took statins for a short period of time, yet sustained significant permanent damage that has altered their lives. Most were very active, health conscious people who are now living with severe muscle damage, autoimmune diseases and memory problems. These adverse reactions are usually not reported by our doctors, so the number of people affected is not known. The group can be found here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Stopped_Our_Statins/info

Someone at this site may be able to give advice. Those who have seen doctors specializing in statin damage have reported they take a certain kind of absorbable CoQ10 and high doses of fish oil. Best wishes.


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Posted by Marie (New York) on 11/18/2013

Hi, would this work for gallstones or gallbladder. I have been drinking two lemons a day and using olive oil since I haven't done a flush... some days pain is there and some days it is not..

Maybe I am drinking too many lemons. I watched a video from Andrias Moritz once and he said to drink two whole lemons a day... no water...for an extended amount of time..

How does one know if you are detoxing...


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Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/19/2013 2077 posts

Never take a statin without also taking CoQ10. Never take CoQ10 without also taking Selenium and Vit-E as these work best together. Muscle stiffness and soreness is a result of the statin depleting what little CoQ10 the body makes, and muscle wasting is the results. From personal experience, the best form of CoQ10 is combined w/ Glutathione. To help rebuild muscle eat quality meat or supplement Branch Chain Amino Acids (BCAA) and/or Creatine.

Dr Sinatra recommends splitting the statin tabs in half and in some cases quartered so as to reduce the bad side effects, while modifying the diet and supplementation.


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/18/2013

Hello Elaine,

Yes, the problems are from the statins...or so assume. Good you got off when you did.

Suggestion on dealing with the continuing problem, eg neck etc.

To get the statins out of you, cleanse. I mean deep cleanse. There are different cleansers The best to get to the cellular level, lemon drink while fasting. Six lemons cut in half and squeeze a half in purified glass of water. Twelve glasses of that a day; so six lemons daily...for ten days. By the third day, you'll be visiting rest room every thirty minutes; the lemon will clean out down to the cellular level. Also you'll knock out any kidney stones you happen to have.

Dave


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Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 11/18/2013

I would go to a good chiropractor to look at stiff neck problem. Stiff neck (along with headache) is one of the symptoms of chronic meningitis. Usually stiff neck due to cold from open window will go away.

There are all sorts of things for neuropathy but I would consider experimenting with seanol given that it addresses many other things besides the neuropathy. Maybe you luck out and it addresses other things. It is a more powerful and long lasting antioxidant than astaxanthin also but I would keep taking the astaxanthin also.


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Posted by Elaine (Huntsville, Al) on 11/18/2013

About 5 years ago, my dr put me on zocor for cholesterol. I was on it for about 6 months and stopped because I developed neck pain--like a stiff neck, but never got better. A short time after that, my gastro dr put me on something for my ulcer, I don't recall the name, but the neck pain increased and so I got off it pretty quickly. I still have the neck pain--I take a good bit of astaxanthin for the pain, which helps but I still have the pain. During all this time, I also had pain in both large toes. This pain is not in the joint (not gout), but lengthwise up the center of the largest part of the toe. I'm thinking peripheral neuropathy? Comments, anyone? Do you think this is still from the statins? What should I do? I take the astaxanthin, 4 mg 4x/d, d3, calcium/magnesium tablet, and a multivitamin daily. Can someone ever overcome the longterm effects of statins? Thanks.

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Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 11/08/2013

Thanks for clarification regarding pulmonary fibrosis.

The things I have come up with and you probably already know about:

  • N-Acetyl L-Cysteine
  • Systemic enzymes
  • Nebulized Glutathione
  • Serrapeptase
  • Acetyl Glutathione

I would think you'd want to take the enzymes probably 3 times a day


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Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/08/2013 2077 posts

Prioris: Thanks for your feedback. A little more detail may help.

A 20yr undiagnosed atypical pulmonary fibrosis has left me w/ a terribly toxic body and almost dead on more than one occasion despite all efforts to regain health. Pulmonary Fibrosis is notorious for reducing the ability of the body to produce Glutathione. I have only recently began homemade oral liposomal gth w/ good results, but there is obviously much more to do. Also, as for antioxidants, I am going to create a mixture of several fat & water soluble anti's for liposomal encapsulation which, in theory, should provide the antioxidant protection I have not been able to achieve by standard oral.

The substantial decrease in diarrhea from only 2 days on Statin is a definite tip on some type fatty acid metabolic disorder. The Red Yeast Rice should produce the same effect w/ no bad side effects. Inhibiting the cholesterol in the liver seems to be preventing the overgrowth of the myco in the gut.

From what I've read, a severe mycoplasma infection may take up to 6 or more months Doxycycline and may need rotating w/ other cycline antibiotics. I tried liposomal berberine w/ no noticeable improvements. Borax baths help. Colloidal Silver nebulized kills the mycoplasma from the lungs for maybe 2 or 3 wks, then repeat.

I have taken systemic enzymes in the past and am now taking Nattokinase 2 caps daily.


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Posted by Prioris (Fl) on 11/07/2013

Statin drugs will damage ones health over the long term.

High cholesterol is a manufactured health problem. It makes no sense why you should be concerned about cholesterol. High cholesterol may be a tip off that you have blood coagulation problems. I have had cholesterol near the 400 range for over 50 years. I'm not the least bit concerned about it because I know it is an imaginary problem.

Assume that you have mycoplasma, you could try erythromicin, borax and other things.

You would also have blood coagulation problems. I would strongly suggest fibrolytic enzymes like nattokinase and serrapeptase since it addresses the core problem. Experiment to see what combination is the best.

You do not need to take the Red Rice since it isn't addressing the core problems.

You talk about oxidative damage then why not take astaxanthin. it is a very powerful anti-oxidant. Take at least 8-12 mg per day


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Posted by Timh (Ky, Usa) on 11/07/2013 2077 posts

Allow me to add some more info on the ongoing Statin discussion.

Several months ago my almost lifelong normal cholesterol reading spiked considerably as well as triglycerides. Dr. gave me free samples of a Statin. Being cautious and very much not wanting to even give them a try, I asked for a prescription for Cholestramine (a fiber powder supplement). Unfortunately the grand marketing scheme must bow to the taste and fancy of the populace so they add sweeteners and such (which irritates my stomach). Last thurs I go back to Dr. and check high on the C and very high on the T once again.

Sure I buy into the theory that cholesterol is good and even necessary BUT, like sugar, too much is dangerous; so I try half an 10mg Atavastatin and 8 hrs later the other half. Next day take one tab.

At this point it is necessary to note that I am going thru extreme oxidative stress induced by free radicals that's been prominent factor in a lengthy environmental disease. Prior to the Statin, I was rendered almost non functional and was in need of personal assistance. I spent most time in bed and lost almost all appetite and energy ... until I began the statin. Three, four days later I am very much improved and completely out of the semi crisis situation of which I had plumbed. I need to also state that I show many obvious symptoms of a mycoplasma infection that could be considered somewhat severe.

OK, that's the good news. The Statin seems to have gone a long way toward correcting a fatty acid metabolic disorder complicated by a mycoplasma infection (as we know mycoplasma feeds on cholesterol). I witnessed a substantial decrease in chronic diarrhea the two days of Statin.

Now for the bad news. I also noticed a marked increase in my Peripheral Neuropathy (lower extremities). After only a few minutes of research, I find that Statins do cause P.N. in a small percentage of the population. And if that isn't enough, I also find the same small (5%) suffer pulmonary fibrosis (of which I have some obvious symptoms but no diagnosis for almost 20 yrs.). My P.N. seems some better today so I am not fearing anything permanent here, as I only took 2 tabs.

Anyway, I am going to give the Red Yeast Rice a trial as there seems some big potential for correcting the fatty acid metabolic disorder and inhibiting mycoplasma (especially in the liver and gut) as well as lower the cholesterol and triglycerides.

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Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 11/05/2013

Dave: Everybody likes you because you are a nurturer who gives everybody emotional support. There is overwhelming observational evidence that sugar from fruit, nectar, and cane, through the mechanism of fructose, increases the the respitory quotient more than starch, oil, or protein. Butterflys that migrate from Canada to Mexico get all their fuel from the sugar in nectar. So do the hummingbirds that fly across the Carribean. An 80/10/10er who weighs 120 lbs. and runs 6 miles daily gets all her fuel from the 10lbs. of fruit she eats. The east africans have the 20 best times in the marathon. They get most of their fuel from corn gruel. Corn has way more fructose than other grains. Raw sugar is way better than cooked starches.


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/04/2013

To Mike 62,

On your response re the essential uses by the body of carbon dixoide...

first I'm really interested in your analysis of fructose.

Unless I misunderstand you, it is your understanding that fructose (as in refined fructose or as in fructose from eating fruits?) ...I assume you mean in the form of the refined sources, say out of sucrose which is 50 percent fructose, which is why you say refined fructose is less glycemic active than glucose? And you mention a number of other positives of fructose (again I'm assumeing fructose as in right out of a coke?). Because I've read lots of authorities, just recently Mercola who blast refined sugar, esp high fructose corn syrup and just refined fructose...He nearly calls fructose in refined for a poison.

So, I must be mistaken somewhere. I defer to you at all times on these tech points. But help me follow the fructose analysis.

And then I have a few questions about carbon dixoide and enzyme functioning which is one of the many things you explain that carbon dixoide accomplishes in the system.

Thanks for your scholarship.

Dave


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Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 11/04/2013

Dave: You always stretch the intellect, thinking of clues and angles, becoming an enlightened knowledgable wise man. Dissolved mainly as bicarbonate, carbon dioxide has a myriad of functions, mainly by way of forming carboxylated adducts with other macro molecules. As with other enzymes that employ biotin as a cofactor, pyruvate carboxylase uses carbon dioxide as a substrate to activate oxaloacetate. The enzyme catalyzing the first step of fats, acetyl CoA, uses carbon dioxide to form malonyl CoA. The formation of malonyl CoA inhibits fatty acid oxidation, promotes glucose oxidation, and insulin sensitivity. Blood clotting proteins, for their activity, require carboxylation of their glutamate residues. Fructose increases carbon dioxide by raising energy generating metabolism, more so than starch, oils, or proteins. Fructose activates the enzyme complex PDH. Fructose reduces the levels of the proinflammatory peptide leptin. Fructose keeps the voltage-gated calcium channels open, required for the secretion of insulin containing granules from B-cells of the pancreatic islets. Fructose, compared to glucose, decreases insulin 4:1 and lowers blood fatty acid concentrations. Fructose levels in the blood rarely rise more than 1% even after ingesting high doses. Fructose is converted to glucose, glycogen, lactate, and carbon dioxide.


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/04/2013

Hello Prioris,

I really enjoy your informative posts.

You had on on one of my fav subjects...cardio issues and sugar consumption relationship, which you deny is, in fact causative; sugar has nothing to do with cardio (MI) problems you said. You also state that sugar consumption is about the same as around 1900.

What? No. I mean NO. How about an increase per capita from 40 pounds a year to 130 pounds a year.

Great charts and lots of information on per person concumption on "Daily Health Posts, Feb 13, 2013" ... there has been an explosion of sugar consumption especially with the advent of soft drinks.

I started reading about this huge consumption explosion about 35 years ago in the book, Sugar Blues.

And after much of my life eating too much sugar (ice cream at night) and getting me to pre diabetic condition, and seeing my dad die from diabetic complications, this subject is very serious in my analysis of the explosion of diabeties in America. I hope you do not believe that sugar has nothing to do with diabeties.

You correctly note that heart clotting is a recent phenomenon and it is. There is no corrolation you say because sugar intake is the same for the past 100 or so years. You are totally wrong about consumption but corrolation does not prove causation. You are correct about that. My belief is that the refining of grains has depleted our food of its anti clotting effectiveness; esp the loss of natural Vit E.

Loss of Vitamin E said the Doctors Shute and Shute (MD doctors who were brothers from Canada) who wrote extensively on this subject during the '50s is the cause of the increase in cardio problems. So I actually think you are correct in a way...sugar may not be THE causative reason for cardio problem but it may be one of the biggest reasons there is inflamation and oxidation in the veins and arteries because there is not enough E to neutralize the sugar (E acts as an anti oxident.)

And finally, there has been a change in the type of sugar we eat today compared to a hundred years ago; then it was much more raw in nature; more cane was present...fiber whereas today it is pure sugar. And the way sugar today is consumed has 50 percent fructose which impacts the liver much more profoundly than glucose alone. Glucose calories impact at only 1 out of about 27 calories on the pancreas where fructos is the entire caloric impact on the pancreas. This is much more glycemic impact than we would have see 100 years ago.

In other words, sugar has changed in quality as well as quantity.


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/03/2013

Greetings Mike 62 from Denver,

Well, next to "Ted" you are the best technical guru we have on EC...I love to read your explantion of interactions and relationships. So your compliments are expecially valued since they come from you.

Your latest post discusses relationships between carbon dioxide reduction and the "AGES" formation, for instance. That carbon dioxide is a key issue is confusing to me and I've wondered about that especially in light of the good that nitric oxide is supposed to do for us. And just as that inter relationship is confusing to me so also is the relationship between H2O2; supposedly good for us but if we have lots of extra oxygen then isn't that a set up for extra oxidation?

I believe I know what all the nutrients/molecules that you mention do ... sort of...but how they inter relate is still maze-like to me. Just recently I've been re studying how the heart works...the kind of thing we all studied in basic biology. I just keep on being amazed; four valves? Really? And the right side sends the blue blood to the lungs and it comes back into the left atrium bright red laden with oxygen to ultimately be released by other values just in precise rhythm, some opening while some are closing and then the arteries take the blood to the upper body including brain and some to the lower body, trunk and legs, and it all goes non stop, without rest, 24/7 for up to 120 years or so (possibly), about 5, 000 beats an hour, and well over 100, 000 beats in a full day all run by an electrical system...but no batteries are needed. And the veins that return the blood to the magic pump are so different from the arteries. That pump is unlike all other muscles in the body and my little study is just the surface of the intricies going on. There are little devices on the valves that keep them in the shape they need to be, for instance.

Just a month ago I dedicated myself to studying the lympth system. Mercy. That too is so very complicated. I'd refer anyone interested to just Wikipedia the lymph system and be ready to "be amazed." The more I study, the more I realize that we are "fearfully and wonderfully made."

Back to your last post. I read and re read and think I followed your interactions. The carbon dioxide as I said is still throwing me. So please be patient with my non technical mind and help me understand how CO2 helps the body...because its DECREASE is a crucial factor in "AGES" creation...right? And how Hydrogen Peroxide is not a super oxidizer...and how nitric oxide inter relates in the metabolic process. Looking forward to being educated.

Your student,

dave


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Posted by Beberobozo ( New York) on 11/03/2013

I am 59 years old female and you would think a doctor would check for plaque in the arteries or do that new test for plaque instead of many invasive tests. I have high blood pressure and taking meds and some other alternative things but doctors never want to get at the root of it.. It could be so many things but why not rule out some things and all. They do blood work but never finding root causes. I am assuming its to sell medication.. what are your thoughts?? Thank YOU.


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Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 11/03/2013

Dave: Half the time you are interesting and half the time you are interested and all the time you are an open minded intellectual. Were everybody like you the world would be a better place to live. Cross-linked proteins accumulate, the turnover of proteins decrease, the synthesis of proteins is impaired, and the oxidation of fat, results in less carbon dioxide being produced, thereby creating the conditions for high rates of ages formation. Energy production diminishes due to the accumulative damages incured to mitochondria protein complexes. Carbon dioxide is a protective factor that prevents the above mentioned processes from occuring. The amount of carbon dioxide produced to the amount of oxygen consumed is the resiratory quotient. Sugar respiration produces the highest RQ. The stress metabolism, in stark contrast, wastes carbon dioxide. Fructose generates more heat and produces more carbon dioxide than starch, protecting glycation labile amino acids and lipids, staving off the initial step in ages formation.


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/03/2013

Again to Beth from Atlanta:

Quick follow up ... just this morning Dr. Mercola's latest newsletter (November 3, 2013) considers the superiority of the derivative of CoQ10 which is ubiquinol on LDL oxidization. He asserts that a hundred studies say ubiquinol is more bio available than CoQ10 and he is especially worried about the millions of people on statin drugs. Someone on Earth Clinic (a poster I mean) got me on Dr. Mercola and he has excellent articles and information.

In the November 3 article on ubiquinol he discusses how ubiquinol is carried by the LDL shuttle (I discussed in my first post to you how the LDL and HDL are protein shuttles to carry cholesterol within the body, and the "shuttles" were not bad at all but in fact are essential to health; and that the only thing bad is if they "stick" to the walls of a tacky vein or artery.)

If the LDL sticks to the wall of the veins for instance, just as anything might stick to the vein, then if it oxidizes and inflames, you've got the beginning of cardio problems, including strokes as well as the blokage itself which would impact the heart. A stroke is a piece of plaque broken off a formation of the same and getting to the brain.

The point I'm making on your issue of cholesterol is: Take ubiquinol to help neutralize the oxidizing effect because the ubiquitol "rides" on the LDL to get to its cellular destination. So, says Mercola, ubiquitol has the unique ability to stop a particular kind of oxidization...that of "stuck" LDL. And again, ANY nutrient, oil, sugar .... anything can oxidize and inflame...the essence of cardio problems. But as you fortify with the ubiquitol don't forget the Vitamin E (natural not synthetic). The E is your underlying heart protector.


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Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 11/03/2013

sugar is not cause of heart disease

"The interesting thing is that most cases of heart disease in the twentieth century are of a form that is new, namely heart attack or myocardial infarction—a massive blood clot leading to obstruction of a coronary artery and consequent death to the heart muscle. Myocardial infarction (MI) was almost nonexistent in 1910 and caused no more than 3, 000 deaths per year in 1930. Dr. Paul Dudley White, who introduced the electrocardiograph machine to America, stated the following during a 1956 American Heart Association televised fund-raiser: "I began my practice as a cardiologist in 1921 and I never saw an MI patient until 1928." By 1960, there were at least 500, 000 MI deaths per year in the US. Rates of stroke have also increased and the cause is similar—blockage in the large arteries supplying the brain with blood." http://www.examiner.com/article/american-heart-assassination

In recent studies, it was found that the so called "bad" cholesterol became more useful as people aged.

The amount of sugar consumed by the population hasn't changed much since 1900. Sugar has been demonized for a long time. Moderate consumption of sugar is not a problem. If I make a large lemon meringue pie, I only use around 110 grams of sugar. If I eat half the pie today, I only am eating 55 grams of sugar which is way less than average. People don't have to give up sweet things like pies, cake and ice cream since they generally don't contain a lot of sugar. Ideally, using non refined cane sugar may be even more healthier.

Telling people to give up sugar is just silly. There may be other health conditions it may be more relevant in but heart disease is not one of them. People can experiment with their diet to see what effect it has on them.


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Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 11/02/2013

Dave: 10g hawaiin spirulina, 5g chlorella, 10g non defatted dessicated liver, 30g black chia seeds, 150g raw organic buckwheat flour, 30g raw organic cocoa powder, 5g absorbable colostrum, and 10g raw whey isolate gives me 67g raw protein. The biological value ranges from 160 for the whey isolate to 50 for the buckwheat. I am always glad to assist all the caring people at admirable E.C.


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/02/2013

Hello Beth from Atlanta,

Re: your concern about cholesterol

Good News! The "medical/drug industry" has propogated a myth about cholesterol. The FACT is that cholesterol is absolutely necessary for health in the human body. The Good News is that you do not have to be concerned about cholesterol levels. In fact, if you want to think of it this way, if the Doc tells you that you have "hight cholesterol" just respond..."That's GOOD. Got to have that cholesterol. Both HDL and LDL. High cholesterol is good for me."

The truth is:

Cholesterol is made by the liver and transported in "shuttles" out of the liver (protein suttles) called LDL and after the body uses the cholesterol which was carried by the LDL protein box cars for proper body functioning (especially the brain needs cholesterol) then HDL shuttles carry the used cholesterol back to the liver for reprocessing.

The test that is performed on us by the industry ... the test that gives us cholesterol levels is a measurement not of the cholesterol level in our body but of the "shuttles"....and 95 percent of the folks who just read that think I must be mistaken:

So here is the youtube to read the MOST informative 9 minute analysis of the truth I've come across. Google: "Dr. Rosedale cholesterol youtube" and you'll find his 9 minute video.

Here is one of the points in this amazing video: The tests for cholesterol given to us is not measuring cholesterol but rather the "shuttles" which are not the cholesterol itself. The cholesterol tests are giving you "shuttle" reading, not the cholesterol/fat reading. Really....look at the Rosedale video.

There is some argument that very small cholesterol (which is not measured by 99 percent of all cholesterol tests) could be a source in "sticking" to the "gap junction" in the lining of the arteries thereby oxydizing and inflaming to produce ultimately blockage/plaque. But the real culprit is not the small ldl, says Dr. Rosedale, (overcome by proper diet of good raw foods) ... the real culprit is SUGAR ... good old deadly white sugar.

The effort, therefore, to make people afraid of LDL levels is totally misplaced...we MUST have LDL suttles to carry cholesterol throughout our bodies...I say MUST have it...or we will see a collapse of the body system. The rise in dementia in the last twenty years is likely due to a rise in the use of statin drugs.

Statin drugs keep the liver from producting cholesterol; and remember cholesterol is good for us. The whole effort to 1. Measure cholesterol is at best a misunderstanding of what is actually being measured (remember the cholesterol reading is NOT a cholesterol reading...it is a "shuttle" reading...LDL and HDL are NOT cholesterols) and 2. the body must have cholesterol to function. We will die without cholesterol.

So how do we keep the blockages from taking place? Isn't the probem fats? No...

Well, remember, the biggest culprit is ...again-sugar. So break the sugar habit and the sugar related cravings.

I thought I'd never get rid of the sugar cravings until I understood that the hypothalymus is the key to telling the body what to do relative to metabolism; In one day I ended my cravings. I used in the morning on an egg, olive oil and no sugar at all in the morning. For lunch I eat anything but with a teaspoon of olive oil somewhere in the mix and again at night a good oil, such as grape seed oil. No sugar at night. The next day you'll find your cravings are gone. Repeat the "good oil" use every day. The good oil can be used on anything of course; not just on an egg. I usually drizzle a tablespoon of olive oil on a third piece of whole wheat bread and I've found I'm not hungry until lunch...no cravings. The hypothalymus will respond by not using the easy to metabolize sugar and instead will be told to use oils (like my body fat) instead. Cravings end.

So please look at the "Dr. Rosedale youtube" video. Only nine minutes and you will go away wondering how so many "smart" folks in the medical industry could be so incorrect about such a fundamental issue.

Now next in the "how to keep plaque from forming" analysis: God designed us to consume foods that give us natural Vitamin E...not synthetic E...and the E has the effect of making sure the lining of arteries and veins are not tacky, which allows plaque formation if they are sticky. Even our blood can get think and sticky and E keeps that from happening. So if I get enough E, then the blood is thinned and not thick. Thus I do not need asprin. God made E to do that for us. And even if we get plaque formation, the E keeps inflamation at a minimum because E is an anti oxident. E also assists in oxygen carrying and thus helps all muscles (heart) to stay healthy. (Two big issues in cardio health: Plaque formation and oxygen delivery. A problem with either two can kill you.) I take 800 IUs daily of natural E. E has been milled out of most foods and soil depletion has taken it out of other sources; at least in the quantities we need. But at 800 IUs E is serving a theraputic function. That is, there is a longevity issue at high levels of E usage. So if you are not attempting such theraputic levels, a person should at least get 200 IUs daily. The natural E...NOT synthetic like you get at a drug store.

dave


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Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 11/02/2013

Hello Mike 62,

You mention the superiority of raw proteins as opposed to cooked; which do you use to get to the 10 percent of total intake? Thanks for your informative posts (all your posts are informative).

Dave


Cholesterol Testing
Posted by Mike 62 (Denver, Colorado) on 11/01/2013

Beth: Cells synthesize simple molecules in a 37 step process to make cholestrol. Total body content for your weight is 30g. Most ingested cholestrol is esterfied and poorly absorbed. Cholestrol intake in food has little, if any, effect on cholestrol levels. Cholestrol is required to maintain membranes, cell signaling, and provide insulation for more efficient conduction of impulses. Elevated levels of ldl, idl, and vldl are regarded as atherogenic. Resistan, a protein secreted by fat tissue, has been shown to increase production of these in liver cells, as do stress hormones. 85% of the food people eat is burned as fuel in the mitochondria. Good food makes clean energy. Bad food makes toxic by products like stress hormones and bad cholestrol. The best fuel is sugar from raw organic fruits. Fructose, not starch, is nessesary for cholestrol synthesis and the production of ubiquenol. I take the concentrates raw honey, raw organic whole dried cane juice, and raw organic buckwheat flour because they are more convenient and less costly. Nutritionists for world class athletes recommend taking carbs, oils, and proteins together 6 times a day in snacks rather than in 3 large meals. Raw proteins are much better than cooked. The proper ratio by weight is 85% carbs, 10% protein, and 5% oils. The proper ratio of oils is 50% saturated fat, I take coconut oil, 10% omega 3, 15% omega 6, and 25% omega 9.


Cholesterol Testing
Posted by Beth (Atlanta) on 11/01/2013

My cholesterol has gone way up. I'm not too concerned, but does what I eat for several days before the test make a difference? I had fasted for at least 12 hours, and what I ate the meal before that was vegetables that had been steamed and had only sea salt on them. I'm not a big eater, 5'6" 120 lbs, but it went up 60 pts from 6 months prior. Just wondering.

Ted's Remedies
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/02/2013

To Lorene A, re Red Rice/Cholesterol,

Your advice is the same as mine and I did try the Red Rice once; maybe three years ago. The friend who was recommending it warned me that he did experience what he thought was a side effect; brain fog. Well, I'd never had problems with brain fog so decided to give the Red Rice caps a try and in two weeks was having trouble concentrating; perhaps a coincendence but I immediately got off the Red Rice and cleared up immediately. I read how the Red Rice works and as you point out and Mercola points out, it works like a statin.

A statin works at the liver level to STOP cholesterol production. But as bad a rap as cholesterol has taken in the past 20 years, cholesterol is essential for cellular health and especially the brain. The problem with cholesterol, is that if there is not enough Vitamin E (natural, not synthetic) in the system, then any fat might start sticking to the veins and arteries. The cause of plaque build up is not the presence of cholesterol but the absence of Vit E.

Got that? The cause of plaque build up is not the presence of cholesterol but the absence of Vit E.

So I got off the Red Rice and the fog went away and I just keep on taking my 800 iu daily of natural E (d alpha tocopherol/ NOT dl alpha tocopherol... The "l" after the "d" tells you it is synthetic. Just get your E at the health food store. Drug stores sell synthetic. ) My cholesterol has always been high but I believe the use of E, CoQ 10, magnesium and potassium, arginine and hawthorn etc has warded off heart issues all these years. I'm 64 and have good BP and can still engage in vigorous exercise. No circulatory issues at all.

Dave


Ted's Remedies
Posted by Lorene A (Montgomery, Tx) on 10/01/2013

RED YEAST RICE, according to research findings from Dr. Mercola (internet), RYRice is a STATIN drug. We were very surprised and were using as this information was not divulged. It is Lovastatin (Mevacor and Altocor). So if you believe you are taking a natural supplement - Surprise! Provided your tests after statin drugs were good, you are better off to NOT take anything for cholesterol, eat heallthy and take lots of vitamins. Statins are a danger to the liver, as we all know. Same goes for Red Yeast Rice. Manufacturers are very clever hiding the statin facts. Also if the RYR contains citrinin, it is dangerous. Should be removed. Again that information not found on most supplements on the market. Good cholesterol is one of our best friends and is vital componet of every cell membrane. Eat healthy to maintain good cholesterol levels. Love this site - very beneficial. I go no where else to get natural remedies. Wonderful site!

High Cholesterol and Heart Disease
Posted by Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/23/2013

You're thinking of Serrapeptase. It also is known for eating scar tissue build up in the body. Nattokinase is totally a natural substance of the body. It helps clear away the plaque build up. The body will only use whatever it needs. China has done thousands of studies on fibrolytic enzymes. They work. Most people should do fine with just Nattokinase.


High Cholesterol and Heart Disease
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 06/23/2013 2077 posts

Prioris: It is my understanding the systemic enzymes directly "eat" scar tissue (fibrosis). These enzymes have no direct effect on cholesterol plaque.


High Cholesterol and Heart Disease
Posted by Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/21/2013

There are scars and plaque build up but the fibrolytic enzymes scrub the plaque build up from the arteries away. I think anti-inflammation nutrition may possibly keep inflammation down while the fibrolytic enzymes do their work faster but that would be just a guess. I need to take both nattokinase and serrapeptase for my particular situation. I found that thru experimenting over a couple years. In the end, we try to fit what we learn from other people to our own health situation.


High Cholesterol and Heart Disease
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 06/20/2013 2077 posts

Prioris: Good advise. If I may back up a step to say that the damage that occurs to arteries in the first place is usually by INFLAMMATION. Inflammation, then scarring, then cholesterol plaques, then heart attacks.

Turmeric, Pineapple, and Omega 3's to treat the inflammation. Pine Bark and Grapeseed Extracts are powerful artery protectors.


High Cholesterol and Heart Disease
Posted by Prioris (Fort Pierce, Fl, Usa) on 06/19/2013

The reason people want to lower cholesterol is because of heart disease. People should be aware that medical studies concluded many years ago that there is no correlation between heart disease and cholesterol. Heart disease comes down to one thing - cleaning your arteries. You use fibrolytic enzymes like nattokinase and serrapeptase for that. They protect you from stroles and heart attacks. Cholesterol is there to protect you. If it wasn't for that, you'd be dead. Do the research. Even the so called "bad" cholesterol. Stop worrying about cholesterol and focus cleaning your arteries.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Lady Middleton (Jamaica, Ny) on 06/18/2013
5 out of 5 stars

High Cholesterol is hereditary for me. My overrall cholesterol was 272 in Sept 2012. I started drinking ACV in Jan 2013, I did labs in March it went down to 214. All I can say is no more statins for me.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Migs (Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, Uk) on 06/14/2013

Yes, I also feel very fit, not putting weight on stomach at all which is great. Maybe because of faster metabolism.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 05/29/2013 2077 posts

Migs: Thanx for posting your success story. I suppose that ACV works in several ways to accomplish this feat of lowering cholesterol. One, it buffers excess acid production (acidosis severely depletes enzymes). Two, stimulation of digestion (especially the bilary). Three, ACV kills Pathogens like Candida. Four, it stimulates metabolism (revs up the krebs cycle).


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Migs (Leigh-on-sea, Essex, Uk) on 05/28/2013
5 out of 5 stars

On 25th May 2012, my overall cholesterol reading was 6.9, which is high. I decided to try organic apple cider vinegar to lower it. For the last year I have daily had a table spoon of high quality organic pure apple cider vinegar diluted with water in a large mug. I drank this once a day, straight after a breakfast of cold porridge, honey and soya milk. Initially it was hard to drink as it was a bit acidic tasting, but now I quite like it. Occasionally I would have it later in the day after a different meal, but it was mainly first thing in the morning.

At end of May 2013, my cholesterol had reduced to 4.1! I was amazed by this. There were no other changes to my lifestyle except sticking to only having any refined sugar (chocolate, sweets, cakes etc) every other day, rather than almost every day. Sometimes in the last year I would go 3/4 days with no refined sugar, but would have natural sugar via fruit. This is also quite a big change, but I am sure it's the vinegar that's the main cause of the massive reduction as I have always had some refined sugar in my diet.

Migs

Red Yeast Rice
Posted by Tinydancer (Dayton, Ohio, Usa) on 05/20/2013

Protecting yourself against heart disease requires far more than just simply lowering your cholesterol levels. In fact, 50 percent of the people who are hospitalized with heart attacks have normal cholesterol levels, and 25 percent of people who develop premature heart disease have no traditional risk factors at all. Maybe elevated cholesterol isn't the real cause of heart disease in the first place.

Trillions of dollars are spent on cholesterol lowering drugs (statins) and heart disease is still the leading cause of death. What is wrong with this picture?


Red Yeast Rice
Posted by Trudyg (USA) on 05/20/2013

I disagree. I got my cholesterol down using red rice yeast, but I'm keeping it down by watching my diet. I no longer take something for it. Years back I was on zocor but it had horrible side effects (not due to zocor, says dr). I exercise, eat a variety of fresh vegetables, use coconut oil, eat fresh fish often--and it stays down with a good ratio of ldl/hdl.


Red Yeast Rice
Posted by Katie M (Hale, Mi) on 05/19/2013

I've read a few of the posts on red rice yeast and I would like to comment as an RN. First, keep in mind that if you have the misfortune of having hypercholesterolemia, you must continue treating it. Your LDL may lower with treatment but will return to high # when you stop treatment. Secondly, to the gentleman who doesn't want to lower his # below 200? I will see you in my CCU unit someday when you have a heart attack because your cholesterol was too high! Don't forget about the HDL! (Good cholesterol) it is just as important! It helps to eliminate the "Bad" LDL. Omega-3 fatty acids! 2-3 grams daily.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Stavros (Athens, Greece) on 04/19/2013

I face the same problem with high cholesterol and would like to know if you finally saw any results using the Apple Cider Vinegar. Thanks!


Oat Straw Tea
Posted by 1947hoppy (Winamac, Indiana, United States) on 03/25/2013
5 out of 5 stars

I had made a submission a couple weeks back inquiring if anyone else had heard about or used oat straw tea. My wife and I have been using it for about a month now for a multitude of reasons. For me, it was for cholesterol. I wasn't sure if or how much it might be working, but recent routine blood work with our doctor for both my wife and myself showed that it works quite well.

My cholesterol has never been as low as it was this time. Total cholesterol had dropped a full 20 points. LDL was down from 101 to 82 and HDL was up from 40 to 56. Triglycerides had dropped from 65 to 45.

My wife's cholesterol had also dropped substantially, but for her the best thing was a 65 point drop in her triglycerides.

We bought it in bulk online, in a 1# bag. We put 2 tblsp in a tea bag and brew it by the pot. I drink most of it, but my wife will drink at least one cup a day. We also add an herbal flavored tea, such as apricot or pomagranate for flavor. The oat straw doesn't have much flavor of its own. My wife also likes to ad a little stevia.

It is relatively cheap. After a month, we have barely put a dent in the 1# bag. There aren't any side effects and its all natural.

Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Wendy (London) on 03/20/2013

As I live in England our measurements for Cholesterol are different from the States.

However mine are considered on the high side. My doctor though is great and says I don't have to take statins if I'd rather not. My blood pressure and diabetes II is well controlled. He maintains walking and exercise are far more important than getting the Cholesterol down.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Rani (Lautoka, Fiji) on 03/13/2013

Pls let me know how much of the grape juice should I add to the 2 tablespoon of ACV. Thanks


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Erdem (Antalya, Turkey) on 03/10/2013

Hello Tarkan, is your cholestrole problem inherite from your parents? In other words your any parent and his/her older relatives have high cholestrole? I have high cholestrole problem which is inherited from my mother.

Thanks for sharing your experience.


Nigella Sativa
Posted by Art (Tustin, Ca. USA) on 03/05/2013
5 out of 5 stars

A recent human study that tested Nigella Sativa (Black Cumin Seed), an increasingly popular supplement, for its cholesterol lowering effects and had some positive results. They tested three different dosages over a 12 week period. The dosages were one gram per day, two grams per day and three grams per day. The two gram dose proved to be the most effective dose and was able to lower LDL cholesterol ( the bad one) and raise HDL cholesterol ( the good one) while lowering triglycerides! That's pretty impressive and there is a definite need for a supplement capable of doing just this with a good safety profile....... unlike the statins which can have some fairly serious side effects in some people.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3515953/

Another recent human study also using Nigella Sativa, found that it is also capable of lowering high blood pressure. That's quite a combination!

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23436437

Nigella Sativa (NS) is available at most on line vitamin suppliers as well as local health food stores and is reasonably priced as supplements go at the tested dosages in these two studies. NS has shown other potential health benefits and the number of studies are increasing. NS has been used in alternative medicine in other parts of the world for ages. I was able to find NS in 400mg capsules at 60 capsules per bottle for less than $4 online from a popular supplier. To reach the most effective dose in the cholesterol study would require 5 capsules per day or about 35 cents or less per day if my math is correct.

Art


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Kay (In The Valley, Ca) on 02/07/2013

I have just started reading a book called "The Cholesterol Myth", written by two doctors I saw interviewed on Dr. Oz. I would suggest that before he takes too much of those statin drugs, you read the book. It's pretty eye opening. Good luck to you.


General Feedback
Posted by Atul (Sterling, Tx) on 02/05/2013

Cholesterol: Could not find the post I was reading yesterday that talked about milk thistle for curing the liver damage? Can anyone suggest about it. Also, b/w sunflower lecithin or soy lecithin which is better? Where can we find milk thistle and sunflower lecithin and how do we take it? Indeed a v. helpful and a great site for natural cures.

EC: Try here: https://www.earthclinic.com/herbs/milk-thistle.html#LIVER

or here: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/liver_damage2.html#MILKTHISTLE


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Atul (Sterling, Tx) on 02/04/2013

Will the ACV work for men especially for those with high cholesterol where it comes in the genes as for my husband who's on statins and is 43 yrs. old. Can we have the ACV along with the statins?

Multiple Remedies
Posted by James (Bryan, Texas) on 02/04/2013

Antiviral remedies? Olive leaf, Elderberry, silver solution (ionic), and a component of coconut oil (lauric, caprylic acid). I know I personally feel better after eating greens (like the Popeye-spinach), but I don't know if this is related to your problem. Good luck!


Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Mary (Buenos Aires, Argentina) on 12/11/2012

Hello Dave, When you say fresh water do you mean distilled? Please let us know what water you are using. Thank you for your article. I will try. God Bless you.


General Feedback
Posted by George (Andover, Kansas) on 11/14/2012

You can also try vitamin c. I was able to drop my cholesterol from 238 to 134 in one month.1000mg. time release-5 times a day. Check on Linus Pauling therapy.


General Feedback
Posted by Lecithin Helped (West Coast, Ca) on 11/14/2012

Colloidal lecithin. Find at your local health food store liquid form of lecithin. It digests better. Just a spoonful a day, and it soothes, calms, provides nutrition to nerves. Also keep bananas and cantaloupe or honeydew melon in the diet. If liquid lecithin is hard to swallow alone, stir it into orange juice or similar. Best to you.


General Feedback
Posted by Sharon From Washington (Washington, Mo) on 11/13/2012

Ted or anyone who knows about the supplement lecithin. What is a good granulated lecithin. Are there certain things to look for when you buy lecithin so you know you are getting a good product. They have egg yolk lecithin are soy bean lecithin and non gmo lecithin. What do you recomend for for high ldl cholesterol. Thanks sharon

Gynostemma Pentaphyllum Tea
Posted by Kenny (Monroe Twp, Nj, Usa) on 11/08/2012
5 out of 5 stars

I tried many remedies over the years to reduce cholesterol. I didn't want the statin route. Finally I found a tea called Gynostemma Pentaphyllum also known as Jiaogulan and its sold in Chinese or korean stores. Two bags in the morning in hot water and they can be reused again in the afternoon. They taste good not bitter like teas. Google it and you can read more about it. It reduces LDL for sure. I eat meat everyday. I just wanted to share this with all.


Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Scotch.irish (Holden, Mo) on 11/06/2012

I work in a Dr.'s office and Pharmaceutical companies also give very nice catered meals to Dr's and staff. (besides just samples.) But I do love this site and look through it often!


Garlic and Lemon
Posted by Michael (Ennis, Ireland) on 08/12/2012

garlic & lemon I need some information is it ok to add 3 litres of water to the half pint of juice that is left after blinden, and then boil and strain. And then add one pint to the mush that is left in the blinder & boil and then mix thank you


Statins
Posted by Pahlee (Phila, Pa.) on 07/12/2012

Thank you for that info. on statins, because I have been taking them for awhile to control my cholesterol.


Statins
Posted by Lisa (Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 07/09/2012

Hi Starr4046, I would urge you to stay away from statins. Not long ago, I heard Kevin Trudeau speak at the Longevity Now Conference and what he had to say regarding statins was absolutely frightening. He said that without a doubt, over time you will absolutely lose muscle mass. Something we already have difficulty holding onto as we age. These drugs have so many side effects I wouldn't even consider them an option. There are so many ways to lower your cholesterol in natural ways that are fairly well- known. Simple things such as oatmeal, garlic, diet, exercise, niacin, artichoke leaf extract, medicinal mushrooms. Do some research because there is plenty of information available regarding this.

Many people here on EC write in saying that apple cider vinegar really helped bring their cholesterol down. Check ou the cholesterol section here on EC. And good for you that your goal is to live your life without drug use! Wishing you the best of health, Lisa


Carrot Juice
Posted by Gab (Doha, Qatar) on 07/07/2012
5 out of 5 stars

I agree, proven! I mixed it with oranges.



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