MMS: The Miracle Mineral Supplement from Jim Humble

Regarding MMS drops

Having a hard time trying to get this simple water purification product but Evil Australian govt deems it dangerous when they are all for the genocide vaccine that is far more dangerous and lethal. Can anyone advise how to get this in Australia, please?

Regards,
Elaine

Thank you for such an in-depth review. I just started protocol 1000 for a general detox, and help with some arthritic pain. I'm doing the protocol for 3 weeks and then re-evaluating. I've had to read your review a couple times to take it all in. I haven't gotten sick or had any noticeable side effects thus far, with the lower dose. Thanks again.

This was in 2017, how is it now? I'm still reading now. not yet using it. so I would like to know.

Finally some real thorough information on MMS.

MMS is a shotgun approach and its a systemic antibiotic, so its going to your whole body, everywhere, like any other systemic antibiotic. Yes, it works for some things, but it's only for short term use. All drugs are poison, it's all dose dependent, so are foods. So many people get stuck on Humbles starting Protocols for good reasons: not enough sulfate in the body, not enough Magnesium in their bodies, not enough iodine, etc... etc.. it's the same reasons some people get sick and some don't. Give enough people any antibiotic and a percentage of them will get well, and some never will. I think MMS kills off all your good flora in your gut, that why everyone loses weight continually, and it's bad, it's malnutrition weight loss, just like most every other antibiotic does.

The people who take MMS for acute infections do well, the people who take it for longer times don't seem to. Read the forums, lots and lots of people get to 1-2 drops per hour and stay there for years and never recover.

A systemic antibiotic is not what they lack, what they need, it's other things, and other issues that an antibiotic isn't going to just solve. Humble is a complete idiot who got lucky and found a malaria cure, and it does other things, but it's not a miracle, and its not the panacea that's going to cure everything like it's touted to. I took MMS and CDH for 3 months and I'm off, for good, and I only started getting well when I stopped the MMS.

MSM and iodine, and the Wilkings protocol (mercuryfreekids.org) will do everything that MMS is supposed to do and won't, and Wilkings does a lot more and it doesn't make your liver sick from the MMS toxic load.

I agree completely. I have been taking MMS (Chlorine dioxide) for three months and have lost badly needed bodyweight the whole time. I read that this is common with users. I think MMS/CD might be a good antibiotic in some narrow uses way, but it's just like any other broad spectrum antibiotic, it's like using a shotgun to shoot a fly with, it's too powerful, it probably takes out everything.

I also think the MMS2 in Humble's book is even worse. I do believe that topically or as a mouth antibiotic MMS might have some great uses, maybe it's a great drug, or a giardia/amoeba drug, that if used only for a short while might be doable. As a treatment for anything chronic, I think it's just too risky. If our own FDA would tell us the truth this would not be a problem, and the AMA has never ever told us the truth about anything, the lies are the reason this is all happening. We know they lie to use on lots of things, so people just believe nothing now. The solution is DMSO, and the newer Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), both of those really do work for just about everything and they are both safe and will do everything that MMS is claimed to be able to do. Stick with Iodine (Lugol's solution) and DMSO and or MSM and you won't hurt yourself. Also, read the old homeopathic med books. Prior to 1900, the books were full of real cures and treatments that preceded our current drug marketing lunacy that is killing everyone with lies and starvation from high costs.

In this order, here's what I'd do - a cold water head/hair wash/rinse, the one cup of water every two hours hydration scheme, calm breathing (lightly breathe in, out and hold for as long as you comfortably can) rebounding (even if only by bouncing on the edge of your bed) and keto.

When you don't feel good, you need water and oxygen. Period. The body needs more water to deal with whatever is making you not feel good and the cells need the oxygen the blood is refusing to let go of.

Rebounding for the thyroid and fibro and, with keto for weight loss.

Start the breathing and water right now. It will make you feel better in very short order so you can focus and explore the rebounding and keto stuff.

Skip the MMS.

The cold water rinse (or cold SHOWER, if you're game) just makes you feel...almost invincible, after, and that's the attitude you want. Instant feel-betterness. Plus, I have a theory that cold water slams the pores right in the middle of a flood - i.e. at the very point they're flooded, "Bang! " goes the door, trapping water molecules inside which would instantly be recognized, available - and almost certainly "used" - by the body. It's like doing a hot/cold, "shock and awe" foot soak, back and forth - bit of instantaneous hydration. I could be totally wrong about that but the effect is so profound and the explanations I've seen just don't sit right with me, I don't know. That's my current theory. Could have a totally different one tomorrow but that has nothing to do with the awesomeness of it!

Please I need help. Where to buy? Sick and tired of being sick and tired! Fibromyalgia candida low thyroid, overweight no matter WHAT I do. Digestion and bowel problems. I'm 49 feeling like 90! I'm so weary I just want to give up but I cannot. I'm a mother of 6!! Nana of 7. I want to live, not just exist!
Warmly sincerely, Amy

I started taking one drop in 4 Oz of water 1/4 every hour increase every day, I'm up to my full 4 Oz every hour. What do I do after that?

Is there a reliable supplyer of MMS in the Philippines?

I think because you were maybe taking too much... 3 drops per hour for 8 hours is protocol 1000. I hope this finds you well :) x

4HCL is a better activator as Citric Acid can make you feel sick. Jim Humble recommends it drop for drop you only need to take 1 drop of MMS to 1 drop of 4HCL in medicine glass, half fill with PURE water [ only pure water is Noble's Pureau water sold in super markets] then fill with juice that hasn't got ADDED Vitamin C any juice that lists the amount of VitC has it added, read the label. I use lemon juice sweetened with honey. MMS BOOSTS your immune system & that gets rid of things that are foreign to your body. Very good for animals as well.

What brand would you recommend for MMS? I'm having a hard time finding options.

Please I'm hiv postive and I'm taking mms close to 4 months but didn't see any improvements so since you said you took mms and it clear your hiv how do you take it? any supplements? please help thanks

Joyce, it's MSM not MSG.

I would like to know where can I buy MMS Chlorine Dioxide

MMS for all mankind ...and animals

I have been a naturopath for 40 years. I no longer run my clinic basically because mms with a no grain, dairy/sugar free diet addresses most, if not all chronic or challenging health concerns. But we cannot prescribe it. Knowing there is something out there which I cannot give to people who need it has put an end to my career.

I have been using mms for a few years now. Just recently I contracted legionnaires from bad water and started taking 3 drops each hour for 8 hours a day. I'm on day 5 now..the infection has not gone from my body yet but it's getting better. Legionnaires is intercellular which means it has gone into the cell, in this respect it may take longer to get it out, into the extra cellular fluid and then out of the body. I intend to take the 3 x hourly drop dose for 3 weeks by that time all the bacteria should be gone...this nasty bacteria has affected most if not all of my body systems.

I do believe that mms protocol 1000 of 3 drops x every hour for 8 hours will eradicate most pathogens in our body.

It eradicates most, if not all pathogens from our pets and livestock. Animals are totally susceptible to many parasites and pathogens, herbicides and pesticides and mms can be the no.1 go to in fact all our animals as well as ourselves need to be on a maintenance programme after completing the 3 week protocol 1000.

Pathogens are one of the causes of most disease.

Combine mms with a grain, dairy, and sugar-free diet and you will enjoy great, not good, but great health and well-being.

MMS FOR MRSA

I used MMS 24 drops a day. (I am a twenty year old female weighing 115 lbs.) I think my situation with the disease was not too bad to start with, had a couple large boils and one was drained in ER. I started getting large blisters that lasted over a week maybe even two. At that point is been dealing with it for 3 months. I bought the product and started using it. It did seem to clear up one blister very quickly. But the results seemed to kind of plateau. I kept using it because I didn't know of any other options. By the end of the three months I was so disgusted by it I hated drinking it and would gag non-stop. My acne had cleared up considerably but I still got some suspicious bumps and such that were pimples but maybe not. I stopped taking it because I ran out and was going on vacation for a week. I stopped taking it for a month and just recently I've got another blister. So I'm buying another bottle as much as I dislike it. My next bet is phage therapy. For the record I've also tried Manuka honey, essential oil, vitamin b3, d3, garlic, turmeric, possibly some others. They definitely helped I think but didn't cute it yet.

Forestnfama You are a really negative person in that you believe what you want and cut people down who disagree with you. I tried MSM for several weeks (and yes I followed the directions) to cure a UTI infection that didn't want to go away. It did not make me sick, nor did it have any terrible side effects. But it didn't help me at all either. I tried it for a couple of weeks and then finally quit because I was tired of being sick. SO I was put on antibiotics and that cured it right up. MSM couldn't even get rid of the thrush the antibiotics gave me. And now I have an ear infection that is taking months to go away. I have been on MSM again for a couple of weeks and so far nothing. I am open or I wouldn't be trying it again. But so far nada.

Jim, All I will say as a humble non-chemist with a deal of common sense is that I don't see how you can claim it does not kill ''good'' bacteria! Does it knock on its door and say ''Are you good or bad?''. Nooooo! Are good bacteria immune to destruction? Noooo! I think, basically, you are wrong!

I hope they pay you well!! Thank you for sharing your hard work with us!

Wow. I learned so much from all of the posts here. I wish you all would continue. Thanks for all of the information!

It does seem as though people here are not up to date. Some people do take one drop divided into eight doses, one an hour, for eight hours a day, and then perhaps go up to two drops divided into eight doses, one an hour. People use glass baby bottles for this. They have one ounce markings all the way up. Take one drop, activate it, fill with 8 ounces of water or whatever you are using, and drink one ounce every hour for eight hours. The thing is it only sticks around in your body for about an hour. So a huge dose once a day really won't do much for you. It is apparently good for malaria.

And there is the new CDS thing Andreas Kalcker came up with, which doesn't taste bad. And the addition of DMSO.

For the fellow who was still getting sick after two weeks, are you using citric acid to activate it? If so, that could be your problem. And this stuff is not toxic. It does not leave anything at all toxic behind. It produces a lot of oxygen in your body, and we all need more of that because oxygen kills pathogens and cancer cells on contact. If you had enough oxygen all the time, you would not get sick most likely. And the oxygen in our atmosphere has been declining for years and years and years. And, by the way, you've probably been drinking it for at least some part of your life since it is used by municipalities for purifying the water that comes through your tap.

MMS has never burned my skin, or anything else. It's oxygen. It oxidizes. That's it. Whoever says it burns their skin, maybe the have a skin infection? I don't know.

But I have cured my fibromyalgia with MMS! Yes, CURED IT! I'm not a medical doctor so I can say it.

My mother completely erradicated her allergies and hayfever after 40 years of trouble. Completely GONE. Yippee! Thank you Jim Humble very much.

Jenny do you know what test one would request to test for HSV viral load? The medical community is soooo confused even still all these years. Every year I get the hushed phone call “you have Herpes”. No, I have anti bodies. IGG. I have never actually had an outbreak in 20+ years so there is no lesion to test. I've read the western blot was the only accurate test but I can't even find anyone who knows what it is or how to do it. It seems every doctor in this area is medically inept and I am very against western medicine.

I have started using MMs for 17 days from 1drop to 6 drops an hrs for 8 hrs. can I stay at 6 drops at night only n 7days n if so will it still heal my immune system?

Hi there. Thank you for sharing your thread. Have you had any success with mms and Epilepsy. Im trying to find something to help my brother with his epilepsy. Any suggestions?

I just heard about the MMS. I would be please to hve it but unable to know where to buy it. Can you please advice. Thanks for your help.

I wish I knew of that 2 months a go before my husband passed away. I would've certainly given that to him. My MMS ARRIVED TODAY. How do I know that's the one from Mr. Humble?

Hi everyone, I'm from Lapu-Lapu Philippines I am looking where to buy MMS either here or in cebu. I read the articles and I would love to try them

I have a cyst that exploded few weeks ago

Thanks Amelita

with HIV take 10 Drops per Hour

me the doctor Said After 14 days of mms Virus gone 95 % I continued my Therapie 30 More days and the Hospital whrotte clearly latest hiv Test negativ

it took me less than 2 months

take much More Drops Not like Kids

And you have the result

If you are having a reaction like you are, it is because of the toxic level of substances in your system. You said no matter what you had Diarrhea, well that means your body was de-toxing and should have never stopped until it all stopped happening. It means it was expelling all of your toxins as fast as possible, which comes out your anal cavity, your skin, any way your body can expell it. But once it finally stops, then you you know you have finally achieved detox and you will feel the healthy feeling kick in for sure. Gerson's juice and coffee enema's do exactly the same thing and more, when you body it getting rid of toxins it comes out anyway it can, and you just supplement with Potassium and Iodine to compensate for the excess diarrhea while your body is expelling. But MMS is doing it job and it is making your body get the junk out of it. So that is the best I can tell you. We have used it for every thing, eye drops, douche for women, curing colds & flus, curing almost all pains, in teeth, brushing and breath, skin issues which go away quickly after use. Its works every time. Yet I have read every stupid thing out there saying don't use MMS......don't believe anyone...MMS works.

I read your post, I am new here, what is the bicarb/sea salt buffer, then MolyB/Niacinamide?

What should I do; I want to start on MMS CD and I'll appreciate your input

To my knowledge, the ratio of Sodium Chlorite-to-Citric acid is 1-5. The most recent protocol is Sodium Chlorite 1 drop and Hydrochloric Acid 1 drop and taken with water.

I would recommend dropping the juice, and start with 1 or 2 drops Sodium Chlorite and add 5 or 10 drops Lemon Juice (I use otc LJ concentrate) and again taken with water. Slowly increase number of drops with each passing day.

Hi I have had chronic Lyme for years and yesterday I tried MMS for the first time I did one drop of MMS and one drop of citric acid mixed it in pomegranite juice and only drank about 1/4 of the fluid. Within a minute or so after taking it I strated feeling this heat going down my throat and felt very axious and tired at the same time. It scared me and maybe will not take again due to my reaction. Has anyone out there had the same or similar experience?

So what are you saying did the protocol help you, because your cd4 cell went down from 300 to 185 that's not good they were supposed to go up not down . I have hiv to and I'm doing the same regiment, so are you basically saying it's not gon work for, plus I do more then 3 drops for 8hours, I do 20 drops of activated CDS for 8hours a day

will this work somebody help please

Hello all!! This page is still active???

That's cause you will always have antibodies. Which is a good thing. So when you get tested, test the viral load. Not the standards antibodies test. Cause you want the antibodies, and those stay forever. But the virus can be gone.

no offense downer Debby, but the virus can be gone. You can choose to settle for what your told, or you really can be educated and experience freedom. I found mms and Citric along with light therapy, biofeedback and a few other advancement tech, I too was able to be cleared. However, when you go back in for blood work and get retested, test for the virus, viral load, not for the antibodies. Cause you'll always have antibodies. But that's a good thing.

Yes, I have a question :) do you take mms and eat or do food particles react with the mms?? Specially when I'm doing the drops 8-10 times a day?

On a site I was on a comment made by a pharmaceutical chemist, was why would you ever use MMS when Food Grade Hydrogen peroxide was so much safer, and very effective at oxygenation. Then he went to compare the chemical make up of the two, it was all chemistry talk, and now I wish I could recall what he said. Anyhow, after reading all these comments I think FGHP is the way to go. Since we all know that no pathogens can survive in an oxygen rich environment. In fact there is company in the U.S. that makes very strong oxygen drops for human consumption I think that is really worth people attention. I have taken MMS and had some lower back pain afterwards. Then I tried it again after the oral surgeon used a membrane for bone grafts that I was allergic to, my face swelled up like a balloon, so I was on antibiotics . Decided to do a double whammy, I made up MMS and sipped it slowly over the course of hours...like one sip an hour. I was fine and I believe it did help kill the infection completely

This is my 5th day on mms.

If I'm taking it every hour for 8 hours, when can I eat? I wind up snacking in between, I start feeling so hungry...So far I've only managed to get 5 doses in before I start feeling really sleepy and tired.

Also, I've been keeping my mms and citric acid bottles in the fridge, is that right?

Thanks in advance, Charlie

Dear Juan; Staph infection is usually caused be poor bowel function but more likely by a zinc deficiency. You can check this out by having a hair sample run. Most all health problems are a result of imbalanced minerals in the body. They have helped me on more than one occasion. Hope this helps.

Sincerely Donald

High folks; In the book called "Zn and Other Micronutrients", the author (either Dr. Passwater or Dr. Pfifer(sp?) found that epilepsy was caused by a Zinc deficiency. You can run a hair sample from a lab and they can tell you what the situation is and what you need to fix it. I have had good results with them over the years on more than one problem.

Sincerely

Donald

Sorry being late for response, have been very busy elsewhere.

I think I have to explain how I got my PEACE with MMS. There seems to be some confusion as to type of selectivity, so I'll make 3 points:

1.MMS is selective against big guys & small guys(microbes good or bad).

Due to the structural difference, ClO2 (being very weak oxidizer/killer) has enough power to kill small guys(microbes good or bad in the mean time) while leaving mostly alone those healthy human cells.

Jim Humble did mention that in one of his book, about the size, so I don't believe there is much problem to accept that.

This is one way I found peace with MMS. This size difference is the MAIN benefit we get from MMS.

2.MMS kills both good or bad microbes? The answer to this question is "who care?"

There may not be much structural difference between those good or bad fellows.

Let's assume that MMS kills both indiscriminately. Antibiotics, as we well know, are indiscriminate killers, they kill them all. But they have been valuable saving human lives, haven't they? The damage they cause is temporary & reversible, we can restore those beneficial bugs one way or another, sooner or later. As a result we get the health benefits.

3.MMS is selective against those good and bad microbes?

Of course! They are other differences besides structural.

This is well known fact.

First off, let's use some common senses. Recalling that ClO2 carries 2 oxygens. We human live on oxygen, so do those aerobic microbes. Hence we can see the common factor already while anaerobic ones get killed by oxygen. More technically, more aerobic microbes are beneficial (we accept exceptions of course) and more anaerobic ones are bad. So it is fair to say that More/most aerobic microbes are good and More anaerobic ones are bad.

Aerobic ORGANISMs possess ENZYMES to remove ROS(reactive oxygen species, form of well-known strong oxidant) such as catalases, peroxidases and superoxide dismutases,

but in ANAEROBEs these are often absent or present in low concentration.

So it doesn't make sense to have aerobic microbes get killed by oxidation and it DOES make sense to have anaerobic microbes get killed by oxidation. Those microbes way outnumbers our cells, don't think we have identified them all nor classified them all good or bad but it's not that hard to accept MOST aerobic microbes survive the oxidant MMS while MOST anaerobic ones get perished to give us health benefits.

PS: as an old man, I haven't found peace with God yet like you R.Henry, I envy you (I'm trying hard).

I woke up in excruciating pain two days after a piece of broken glass in the garbage stabbed the middle finger on my left hand to the bone. The pain radiated from my right hip down my leg to the knee. As I got up and moved around the leg loosened up and the pain and stiffness decreased tremendously. On day four however, the pain and stiffness did not subside at all and I was in tears because of how bad the pain was when "trying" to walk. I then remembered that I had MMS and knew that I could tolerate a 6 drop dose, thinking at the time that I would need to do at least a few doses over the next few days (or however long it took). I took the 6 drop dose at bedtime and imagine my surprise when I woke up the next day without any pain in the leg whatsoever. I had already read how harmful vaccines were to the brain and body so was determined to not get one ever again, even though everyone online was saying that emergency room personnel told them that without the tetanus shot they would die. I had also read that large doses of vitamin C were effective against tetanus so I did increase the amount of ascorbic acid I was taking as well. I don't remember exactly how much I took - I believe it was 1 - 3 tablespoons per day - which is well above the recommended daily dose of a quarter teaspoon. Apparently it wasn't enough to kill the tetanus but may have helped so that the one 6 drop dose of MMS was all that was needed.

FYI, vitamin C inactivates MMS so they do need to be taken at least a few hours apart from each other.

Hello, I'm spanish and tried mms on my dog for cure a disease with possitive results, it was near die, losing much hair, with white-blue tongue and gums, with no energy and with the eyes like a sick, it was not moving, it's a shetland sheepdog, much energetic dog, after giving mms for about 10 days, he recovered and is like before get sick, I cured vaginal infection in my exgirlfriend and I knew also a man who cured prostatic cancer with this, I'm in Cebu actually and I would like to find mms, where can I find it please? thank you in advance.

Gluten triggers seizures - put her onto a strict ketogenic diet with high fats, moderate protein and very low carbohydrates (no gluten at all), a diet that was specifically designed for people with epilepsy, and her seizures should stop.

How many drops do you have in one go and how many times a day? I have build it up to 9 mixed drops and I find drinking it quite hard. Any suggestions?

See Patent US 2011/0076344 A1

Methods of using a stabilized chlorite solution to inhibit antigen-speciic immune responses are disclosed. The stabililized chlorite solution, When administered to a mammal in need thereof, can prevent the presentation of antigens by antigen presenting cells. The stabilized chlorite solution therefore is useful in treating, inter alia, auto-immune diseases, treating diseases caused by an inappropriate immune response, treating lymphoproliferative disease and in inhibting rejection in transplant patients.

J Parks .. I'm reading your paper. Sorry, "size" refers to how far into skin that ClO2 could soak in the time that it is put on the skin as an antiseptic for an infection. It did not refer to the size of a bacteria. They say all bacteria are killed in milliseconds, while a few minutes on the skin would not penetrate more than 0.1 mm, so the damage would be limited.

J Park ... Thanks for that article. ClO2 is definitely selective against only some chemicals. That makes it safer. I don't see how size comes into the idea of acting on bacteria. Are you saying that good and bad bacteria are different sizes? And ClO2 is a molecule. A single celled bacteria is composed of how many molecules, a million? I'll look at the article. But again, you can't feel gut bacteria. And it isn't necessary to take probiotics. Food supplies that.

Check my Post in Rife Machines. There's a different type that is far better than any of them, Frequency Specific Micro-Current.

We truly lost something valuable in Rife's microscope.

Bob .. 4 packs/day, wow that's a lot. I started smoking 10 years ago, a long story. I have a hunch that breathing ClO2 may dissolve some of the tar in the lungs. When I first started experimenting, I deliberately inhaled a full breath of a large amount made with vinegar. That first one did not hurt my lungs in the least. The next time I inhaled a full breath was when my lungs hurt for 3 days. So it seems that the first time cleaned my lungs. Perhaps working with it kept your lungs clean.

I know about the FDA corruption, and other conspiracy info. And I know about ozone, which will also hurt your lungs pretty quickly. I had a subscription to Dr. Rowen's newsletter. He's the one who went to Africa, and was curing ebola until the govt kicked him out. Ozone will turn almost anything organic into CO2, O2 and H2O.

I also know about Rife. I know there are several types of devices available. I bought the best one, that is a little different, Frequency Specific Micro-current. It uses two channels and low frequency. It's doing the seemingly impossible. I'll see if there's posts here.

I'm not looking to be famous. And I don't like going against Humble. But his advice is making everyone eventually vomiting with diarrhea. And MMS2 is even worse.

Bob

I like to add something about the selectivity of ClO2. Been an electrical/computer engineer for decades, turned into a full-time researcher in alternative medicine.

Have personal experiences involving gut-flora matter. Due to many dental implant works, had to go thru antibiotic treatments many times. Still remember vividly how lousy I felt doing antibiotics, but had no choice, but to go thru with them. I knew too well that was due to the loss of my friendly bacteria. How I wanted to get them back! As soon as I was done, immediately started probiotics, which took a while but I got back to healthy self.

Later on, I got smarter, did some quick research, found that probiotics can go along with antibiotics! So I did both simultaneously and problem seemed much easier. Pretty nice. When I did become aware of MMS by JH, I was apprehensive about its safety, but, as a medical reseacher, decided to go in deeper, make my own conclusion. Gradually, I became a believer, tested it out few times drinking 1 or 2 drops at a time and it seems that I don't have much problem with it. Decided to use this instead of antibiotics during dental works.

I started P1000 right after the dental surgeries w/o probiotics. Why? "My Body did not want it" ! It was natural not to have any probiotics, in fact, it never occur to me during MMS. I went thru this few times, my MMS Protocol 1000 replacing the antibiotics ! Not used probiotics during P1000, didn't feel I need it. (didn't tell my dentist about this, but wonder how he would react when I tell him. His prescription? straight down to garbage can)

Feeling so nice knowing I don't depend on antibiotics, my gut-flora intact?? no worry of antibiotics habit-forming. I was very hot in selectivity research last year, but now things are bit vague. Don't know if you guys ran into this, but the best article I saw last year was, https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.5163.pdf [Editor's Note: This 32 page .pdf entitled "Demonstrating that chlorine dioxide is a size-selective antimicrobial agent and high purity ClO2 can be used as a local antiseptic" may take a long time to load depending on your internet connection.]

Their find was 'selectivity' has to do with 'size' of the organisms. This may give one additional explanation to selectivity, just one, may not be all.

I do believe there is "selectivity" with ClO2! I do not believe that JH needs to back off, remembering his conclusion been based on zillions of experiences.

We may not understand its full mechanism as of now, but maybe someday, there might be. Not understanding does not warrant Negation. Selectivity of ClO2 seems REAL and science(or theory of it) always FOLLOWed reality, not the other way around. Isn't the quantum mechanics one of these?

They tried to understand the funny behavior of "light", winded up a theory "the cat can be alive or dead at the same time"... or that sort of weird thing.

They, those young scientists, basically force-fit the theory to reality, winded up Quantum Mechanics despite Einstein refused it saying, "God does not play dice".

The Quant. Mech. has been proven the most successful theory today.

PS: I've been very much interested in Rife Machine, but my impression has been it is non-trivial to use it since those critical frequencies are to hard to pin-point.

So with current electronic techniques, they basically sweep freqs "carpet bombing". Mr. Rife was highly successful because he had his venerable microscope that can see the microbes(even those viruses) while trying to select right frequency to kill them. It was like "taking an exam knowing all the answers". And that's our problem, no super-microscope.

Anyhow I'd like to get some real info, if possible, name of dependable machines, how successful you are Robert Henry.

BOB,,,,,,,,,, back in those days, I stayed totally stressed due to my job and my A 1 personality. Also, I smoked about 4 packs of unfiltered Camel cigs a day. Quit in '73 to buy a 4 wheel drive Ford pickup as my wife thought I was taking food out of the kids mouth to do both.

I was the mill Supt and after a year my assistant told me that I was the conservation piece of a group and all were proud that I had quit smoking. They all agreed that if I started smoking again then they hoped I never quit, because I had been one SOB for the last year.

I wish I could shed some light on breathing ClO2 over the years. I can't. All I can say is that I'm still perking. My gut tells me that there is some good in this compound, but I really don't know. I know there is no good in breathing Chlorine. It will kill you in a minute.

Bob, keep plugging away. You may some day be famous. Just think of how Bill Munro impacted the world with his simple procedure. My gut tells me that the biggies are Ozone, ClO2, ACV, PEMF and the Rife Machine. Too bad Gates nor Buffet are sponsoring any of these. Instead they are doing stuff to control our population. I agree with that, but not their way.

Out of spit.=====ORH=======

You are absolutely right.

"That's his most recent advice, after about 10 years of starting at a higher dose."

When I took MMS, I started with One drop (as directed)

Bob Henry ... I see you've been posting about chlorine dioxide for a long time here.

I'll bet you never got a cold, flu, or infection when you worked with it, LOL. What were your symptoms when you had ClO2 leaks? How long did pulp need to soak to get bleached?

You ask about how to take ClO2. There's only one Protocol; take pure chlorine dioxide, not MMS. The solution in water, CDS, goes weak after a few weeks in the refrigerator. So the best way to get it is the dry MMS1 tablets, available in the US at mmstabs.com Not the MMS2 pool bleach! And don't swallow the tablets, as Jim recommends, unless you feel like burning your stomach. Put the tabs in a cup or glass of water, let sit for 1/2 hour to make sure it completely reacts. The activator used is sodium hydrogen sulfate leading to near 100% ClO2. And keep the tabs in the fridge or freezer, the dry chlorite decomposes.

Do you have any illness?

Bob

By the way, Jim, you have made another very important discovery, that MMS destroys some, or all, venoms and poisons. I just read that anti-venoms can cost $10,000 and have a short shelf life, so hospitals don't stock them. It's also dangerous to make anti-venoms because someone needs to handle the snake to get some venom.

HI U JIM AND BOB,,,,,,, spent 40 years making ClO2 in the paper industry and breathed the washer residual almost constantly. However, I'm not going to get into this "pissin contest" between you two. Reason being is that I have not ever made ClO2 this way and never took it as a health remedy. What I will say is that I do Ozone at home with a medical generator and at clinics for PROLOZONE SHOTS.

It was the Germans that blazed this Ozone trail and Dr Shallenberger brought it to the U. S. I think CLO2 is in this category that can help mankind, but it will be after the fight with Big Pharma and the AMA. One paper mill ClO2 generator would supply the world, but I would almost be impossible to ship it as a solution. Jim, your MMS procedure solves that problem, but I have reservations about the control. I've read enough over the years to know that the medical folks wanted to put you in prison because you were so successful.

Have you heard of Ebola lately? No, because a U.S. doctor showed the local doctors how to cure the disease with Ozone. When that first happened the media played the drama to the hilt and Big Pharma had $ signs in their eyes.

Jim, I do think you have to back off on your claim that ClO2 only kills the bad stuff and not the good stuff. Anti-biotics kills both, as does Ozone, so why is CLO2 any different. That just goes with the territory and you can build your gut flora back in a short while. Don't get side tracked with this argument. I just wish some open minded folks like the Germans would look into CLO2.

Another protocol that works, but is outlawed, is the Rife Machine. I have one. Your DNA tells your your health problems and that science is here and now.... only in the closet. One of these days this test will be done and you will go into room where you will be hit with frequencies that kill all the critters that are affecting your health, including cancer. It won't help a car wreck victim, but it will cure general health problems.

Let me suggest that we make a chicken salad out of this chicken sheet situation. You boys talk to one another is a civil manner and you can move the world. Lots of good can come out of this mess. I want it to happen.

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About Jim's second Post, I don't believe in arguing with people. I could correct his continued claims, such as that he recommends only 1/4 drop. That's his most recent advice, after about 10 years of starting at a higher dose.

And I have read his books, including his new Health Recovery Manual. That's how I know his ideas.

I'm not disputing how much work Jim has put into helping people.

Hello Jim. Good to see you here. No one has treated more people than you.

You have an amazingly strong effect on people. Nearly everyone is repeating your ideas. Everything, I wrote, is from scientific information. I could have listed the references, but that would have made it longer and more difficult. I can send you links to the information.

The flora isn't in the stomach, it's in people's intestines. People can't feel the bacteria in their intestines, so no one would know what is there. There aren't symptoms caused by a lack of such bacteria. And from their first meal, bacteria would be added to their bodies. It isn't necessary to take probiotics, it's merely good advice.

Right, chlorine dioxide, not MMS which also has leftover sodium chlorite, is more selective. That means it only reacts with some amino acids, and chemicals, such as with sulfur bonds. That's the part that makes it safer. Selective does not mean that it can "know" whether a bacteria is good or bad. I've read comments by doctors saying some good bacteria are anaerobic, and some bad bacteria live with oxygen. Either way, the cell membrane and interiors of both bacteria are the same.

Did you read my whole Post? Perhaps you got the impression that I am advising people to not use chlorine dioxide. That's not the case. I have thought about the idea that my Post may discourage some people. But I think it's important that people get the correct science info, especially with so many people reaching the vomit and diarrhea level.

Just wanted to comment on Bob Murphy's comments about me and MMS. I am sorry to say it, but much of Bob's comments about MMS are incorrect and about me (Jim Humble) are totally incorrect. First, the people who work with me are plenty happy to jump me about incorrect stuff, and I don't know of anyone who was banned because they disagreed with me. A couple of people cheated the Church out of thousands of dollars and were banned, but you don't call that disagreeing with me. Bob has never met me or talked to me and yet he is here telling everyone I am arrogant and that I think I know more. Then he tells you that chlorine dioxide and acidified sodium chlorite are not new. But if he is going to write about how wrong I am don't you think he should have read my book? At least read my last book in which I tell people that there were many patents issued on sodium chlorite in the last century and that chlorine dioxide was used in hospitals where thousands of tests were made in the 1980's. I never ever thought of saying that I was the first to work with acidified sodium chlorite (That's MMS).

Bob should have read my latest book before making most of his statement. But he didn't and he just made dozens of mistakes in how to use MMS and I'd like to say he made all those statement about me with never meeting me or knowing about me.

So in case you are going to use MMS let me point our some of his obvious mistakes. (1) He states, "some of his (my) protocols may have too much sodium chlorite per day. He is so unprofessional that he doesn't give dosages per pound of weight of the patient." Again he didn't read my book. I suggest that everyone start out at 1/4 drop of MMS. I have given mice 1/4 drop without adverse reactions. Well I don't want to get into a long drawn out protocol, but I give three golden rules to follow after doing the 1/4 drop all day each hour. (A) As long as you are getting better, don't change anything. (B) If you are feeling worse, cut your next dose in Half. (C) If you are not feeling worse nor better (nothing is changing) increase the doses a little. NO ONE GETS MORE THAN THEY NEED WHILE FOLLOWING ALL OF MY DIRECTIONS. It's easy for anyone on the street.

One sample how goofs in his chemical evaluation of MMS. He acts like a High school chemist. Like most chemists he jumps in there and says when acidifying sodium chlorite it turns first to an acid and not to chlorine dioxide. Well, yes, true, but that is for only 1/2 second and the it turns to chlorine dioxide which you drink and you body never knew it was that acid before it was chlorine dioxide.

Then he says that I say that sodium chlorite turns mostly to chlorine dioxide in your stomach. No, No, that isn't so. Read my books. When you acidify a drop of MMS with a drop of activator only 1/10th of the sodium chlorite in that drop turns to chlorine dioxide and then when you drink it (that 1/10th has already turned to chlorine dioxide) and now in your stomach another 1/10th of that drop turns to chlorine dioxide by the normal stomach acid in most people's stomach. So you see only 2/10ths are turned to chlorine dioxide. But this isn't bad. I could have change that. But sodium chlorite unactivated is important to the body too and MMS is much more effective when it has both chlorine dioxide and unactivated sodium chlorite.

Sorry, I don't have time to tell you in all the places where he screwed up, but it was many and his chemistry was not great. When he said that people who finish with a MMS protocol need probiotics for the stomach to replace the flora he as again wrong. The company Lenntech is a company that has been selling chlorine dioxide for 50 years and they state that chlorine dioxide is in fact truly selective in what it can kill. When I first went to Africa I went to a Missionary group that had 50 churches dotted through the jungle area. Each church had 50 to 200 people waiting for me with malaria. In one month I treated 5000 cases of malaria and over a period of years I treat 60,000 sick people with MMS and never notice any of them needing replacement of stomach flora (that is if they didn't already need it before being treated). If you are going to use MMS I suggest you read my latest book and not rely on Bob's chemistry. Sorry about sounding mean. Don't mean too. But Bob decided I was a bad guy without meeting me and talked about the truth, so just wanted you to know I am not a dictator and just want to see people get well. That's my job.

Jim Humble

While I am sure Bob (Murphy, Nc) sure or whatever his name is has a good heart and means well, he is highly inaccurate about much of his writing about MMS. He isn't nearly as smart about chemistry as he think he is. I don't have the time to go over all of his writing, but his mistakes are very numerous, here is an example. He states that MMS kills good and bad bacteria alike and therefore stomach flora needs to be replaced after using MMS. But I treated 60,000 people around the world and none need to replace their stomach flora and if they did I would have seen it. Lenntech is a company with a web site who has been selling chlorine dioxide for 50 years and their technology states that chlorine dioxide is indeed selective in what it kills. If Bob was going to write a lot of stuff about MMS a liquid that has saved thousands of lives he should have done a lot more studying before jumping in their and talking about something he still knows very little about.

Bob, you and others might be interested in learning that Mel's protocol of How I cured Morgellons uses MMS but not in the way of Jim Humble.

Thank you Hube. Here's a quote from Hesselink's page; The usual or appropriate dose so far seems to be about 1 mg per kg per day. That's the Average in the table. http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm

Yes, the Patent, mentioned, uses sodium chlorite http://www.google.com/patents/US20110076344 for autoimmune. But perhaps chlorine dioxide would also work, and at lower safer doses. I was surprised to learn that Parkinson's, ALS, MS, rhum. arthritis, etc, can be auto-. This Patent has the most exact bio-chemistry research, I've seen. [Note: there's a typo in the Patent. ClO2 is missing the minus sign. Should be ClO2-.]

Great info Bob.

I have been looking for a balancing discussion on MMS. My wife suffers from a combination of auto-immune disorders (Sjogren's, Lupus, Rhumatoid Arthritis) and my 16 daughter had a bout of mono that has left her with severe fatigue and nervous system sensitivity.

While it is clear from your presentation that chlorine dioxide is safer and effective, it seems that sodium chlorite would be a better choice to treat autoimmune conditions.

Also, does Hesselink's table refer to daily dosages?

Hello Mr. Henry. Great to hear from a man who works with ClO2. I know you keep ClO2 in cold water, and that it can explode above 10% conc. in air. I've had release of too much gas in my house. It's gets uncomfortable quickly, with coughing.

Did you ever use ClO2 gas to bleach pulp, like is done to kill mold in a house?

BOB,,,,,, CLO2 is a gas and you dissolve in 40 degree water at a specific low concentration least it explodes. There are several chlorine hypochlorites, calcium and sodium and they are totally differently compounds than ClO2 . When vacation is over, I will address your post. Still have a lot to learn, but I spent 40 years manufacturing ClO2 and using it in bleaching pulp. I have never made it via Hubble's MMS method, but have been sent to the hospital a number of times when ClO2 fumes got out of control.

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You are welcome, Art.

In reply to Bob (Murphy, Nc),

Thank you for the informative post! That is information that anyone considering taking MMS should read first!

Art

MMS Jim Humble the Good the Bad the Truth

I've been working with, and researching, chlorine dioxide for two years. I've made my own batches of nearly 100%, using a different formula. There are more than eight formulas to make chlorine dioxide. I have the Genesis II Church member card. I'm not anti-MMS. Jim Humble is a great humanitarian, and must have been a good NASA engineer. However, his chemistry is bad, which he has said in his book. And his understanding of body biochemistry is completely wrong. My main purpose, for this paper, is to correct his mistakes.

The medical establishment's attack, against MMS, is based on a simplistic, uninformed, negative, buzz word slander. Clorox bleach is not labeled with the skull poison symbol. Like many products, it has warnings. And the warnings are exaggerated, as usual. For instance, it warns of burns to the skin. Hah, I've had bleach on my hands many times. It feels slimy, but doesn't cause a burn. They also use the word "industrial" bleach. "Industrial" makes it sound bad. Supermarket packaged foods are made in a factory. It's an industry. There's nothing bad about being industrial. Sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide are in the general category of "bleach". That's good if you want to disinfect. And chlorine dioxide is used, for instance in municipal water supplies, because it is the safest one. As I will cover later, bleach oxidizers can do damage. So concentrations must be low. I'm experienced enough to be aware of the inner works of some groups, especially ones like the FDA. The whole attack, on MMS, may possibly be traced to one man, Mr. Mizer in the US Dept. of Justice, since everyone is repeating his slander, about bleach. There's a cadre of such people who hate Christianity, and so can't stand medical people using the words "cure" or "miracle". For sure, the attack is uninformed, and so it is illegitimate.

To begin correcting Jim's mistaken ideas about chemistry, chlorine dioxide is not an ion. It does not have a charge. It is a molecule. Molecules do not have a charge. Chlorine dioxide is unusual, in that it doesn't dissolve, ionize, in water. Body cells are a complex structure of many molecules. They do not have a charge. So chlorine dioxide is not repelled by body cells, and it is not attracted to only bad bacteria. Bacteria are cells, and so do not have a charge. The Gram Stain is not a positive or negative charge. The positive and negative means yes or no for the bacteria becoming stained with a dye. Chlorine dioxide is a free radical, meaning it has an unfilled electron space. This is how it oxidizes. When reacting with organic molecules, chlorine dioxide usually functions as a highly selective oxidant due to its unique, one-electron transfer mechanism where it is reduced back to the chlorite ion. When oxidizing some inorganics, like ferric oxide, it can accept a total of five electrons, which would break it down to a chloride ion, as in salt, and two oxygen ions. Jim's claim that electron shells hold atoms together, and that the nucleus would fly apart if the electrons are drawn away, is false. It takes a high-powered atom smasher to do that.

Chlorine dioxide is said to work differently on different pathogens. Bacteria, fungi, parasite and tumor cells are vulnerable to oxidants because of these components; thiols, polyamines, purines, amino acids with thiols, phenols, and amines [Dr. Thomas Hesselink's paper about malaria]. The method of chlorine dioxide bacterial kill, at low ppm concentration, seems to occur by the disruption of protein synthesis and enzyme inactivation. This is similar to the non-toxic mechanism of some common antibiotics. It does not blow a hole in cell walls. It acts on good as well as bad bacteria, so probiotics should be taken after treatment is finished. Oxidation of RNA and DNA do not appear to take place, or are at least unimportant in the process. The site of action lies in the soluble fraction of the cell and there appears to be no damage to internal structural components such as ribosomes. At high ppm, the method of rapid bacterial and viral kill appears to be the softening and destroying of the cell wall, or viral capsid. Chlorine dioxide is known to react with iron and manganese compounds, sulfur bonds, and colors. Chlorine dioxide can definitely hurt body tissue, as well as pathogens. It kills algae, parasite organisms, and some insect eggs or larvae, such as mosquitoes. If the concentration is high enough, it can kill zebra mussels and some fish, such as trout (the lethal LC50 for rainbow trout is 290 ppm for 96 hours). Since I believed Jim's harmlessness claim, at first, I took massive doses of pure chlorine dioxide, and inhaled full breaths of it. Once, my lungs hurt for three days afterwards. And massive doses caused my ears to ring, probably damaging sensitive inner ear nerve hairs. So doses should be kept small, and luckily chlorine dioxide works with the lowest doses, compared to other disinfectants. There are many institutional papers assessing the toxicity of chlorine dioxide, sodium chlorite and chlorate. The main problem area is red blood cells. With prolonged, higher dose (up to 1000 ppm for chlorine dioxide, and 100 ppm for chlorite and chlorate) daily use in rat's drinking water, for 1-2 months, some hemoglobin can be oxidized to methemoglobin which doesn't carry oxygen. Also, red blood cell count can decrease. Chlorate (ClO3-), which can rupture RBCs, is the worst with serious RBC loss after nine months. There is a claim that some chlorate can be produced in MMS reactions, such as with pH less than 3, and some chemical studies claim chlorine dioxide can change into some chlorate in water. Red blood cells have glutathione to protect them from oxidation, but cell levels can be decreased with prolonged treatment. Other studies show no methemoglobin at these dose levels. There is a reference stating that there's an enzyme that reduces methemoglobin back to normal hemoglobin. One study with low dose, single dose, pure chlorine dioxide using people, showed no problems at 0.34 mg/kg of body weight. In these studies, the doses of sodium chlorite and chlorate were only 1/10th of the amount of chlorine dioxide, evidently for safety reasons, meaning they considered chlorine dioxide much safer. Different studies have found the following safe levels of chlorine dioxide in all of the drinking water, per day: 15 mg/kg in mice for 1 month; 9 mg/kg in green monkeys for 1-2 months; 2 mg/kg in Sprague-Dawley rats for 3 months. At higher doses there could be some nasal irritation from chlorine dioxide gas evaporating at the drinking tube. Effect on newborn rat pups: decreased pup development, decreased thyroid hormone levels (thyroid hormones T3 and T4 are phenols), and decreased brain cell count, were found at 14 mg/kg of body weight per day in drinking water for the mother rats during gestation and lactation. Dosing below 14 mg/kg had no observed effect, such as in a 3 mg/kg test. I don't think anyone should take maintenance doses for years, especially with so much sodium chlorite in the MMS mix. And doses should be in mg/kg or /pound of body weight, not in drops. Also, Jim is wrong about MMS lasting only one hour in the body. Rat studies show that 100% chlorine dioxide, not the MMS mix, reaches peak blood level in 2 hours, with half absorbed in 3.5 hours. The leftover sodium chlorite, in the MMS mix, reaches peak blood level in 8 hours. 21% of it is still in the blood after 72 hours. So dosing every hour is not a good idea. Studies use one dose per day. There probably hasn't been much research about the effect of chlorite and chlorine dioxide on prescription drugs in the body, but oxidizers are one thing used by illegal drug users to nullify drugs in their urine test. So they probably can affect some prescription drugs in the body. For myself, I would only take low dose pure chlorine dioxide, such as chlorine dioxide solution (CDS), or the new MMS1 tablets in a glass of water [do not swallow the tablet]. The tablets use sodium hydrogen sulfate as the activator, which produces near 100% ClO2. Precautions must be employed in people with glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase deficiency disease, as they are especially sensitive to oxidants of all kinds.

As chlorine dioxide is a free radical, antioxidants will quench it back into a chlorite ion. This happens with many antioxidants; Vit. E, Vit. A, CoQ10, flavonoids, Beta-carotene, Lycopene, Lutein, etc., not only vitamin C. So no antioxidant supplements, or natural juices or foods should be consumed with chlorine dioxide. Lemon, or lime juice, has vitamin C and other antioxidants, so are not good to mix with chlorine dioxide. Jim is partially correct about ascorbic acid. Ascorbic acid, if used at less than about a ratio of 2 moles ascorbic acid to 1 mole chlorite ion, would end up forming ClO2, because it's an acid. For no ClO2 to form, the reaction requires more than approximately 2 moles of ascorbic acid per mole of chlorite ion. In terms of ppm, it takes about 5.2 ppm ascorbic acid to destroy 1 ppm of chlorite ion. In fact, ascorbic acid produces about four times as much ClO2 as citric (see table below), the most in the short list.

Organic Acid Activation of Chlorite

Acid .... gm .. ClO2

Tartaric 0.64 239

Oxalic 0.53 628

Adipic 0.79 73

Citric 0.77 192

Itaconic 0.72 105

Ascorbic 0.68 >770

While I'm at it, the public should not be told to mix their own chemistry experiments. People don't follow orders exactly, make changes, and aren't professional enough to calculate the exact molecular weights of the reactants, and balance the formula. People need to buy a professionally made product.

Jim believes that MMS gets completely changed into chlorine dioxide in the stomach, if you swallow it. This is no more true than what happens when activating MMS in a glass beaker. There is only a small continuous basal secretion of gastric acid, on an empty stomach, of usually less than 10 mEq/hour. It takes food to stimulate the secretion of gastric fluid, and then the HCl is only 0.5 to 1% of it. And acidifying sodium chlorite does not produce chlorine dioxide as the first step. It produces chlorous acid, HClO2. [HCl + NaClO2 = HClO2 + NaCl] HClO2 is unstable, and breaks down into chlorine dioxide and hydrochloric acid. [5 HClO2 decomposes to 4 ClO2 + HCl + 2 H2O] Furthermore, at a pH in the range of 2.3 - 3.2, only about 30% chlorous acid is produced from the acidification. That leaves about 70% leftover sodium chlorite.

Citric acid is a weak acid, and only produces about 10% chlorine dioxide. And citric acid can have the taste problem. Luckily, the leftover sodium chlorite is also a disinfectant, although it is much harsher than chlorine dioxide, and not as selective. With exact concentrations and conditions, HCl can produce nearly 100% chlorine dioxide. Also, the acidification of 1.3M sodium chlorite with 10% acetic acid yielded almost entirely chlorine dioxide as the major product of the disproportionation. Acidified Sodium Chlorite is used by many food processing companies, and the short-lived chlorous acid is also a disinfectant.

Sodium chlorite is a different animal. I have brushed my teeth with less than one ounce of 80% sodium chlorite solution. Afterwards, one corner of my lips hurt, and my gums were red and sore, with a small amount of bleeding when brushed. This took several days to heal. A single dose of 105 mg/kg weight will kill half of rats tested. That's called the LD50, lethal dose. For a 150 lb person, that's a little over 7 grams. In another test, with cats, a single dose of 1.5 mg/kg caused as much as 32% methemoglobin. That's losing about 1/3 of your blood oxygen supply. This loss does reverse back into normal hemoglobin over time. A 90 day study on rats found a No Adverse Effect Level at 1 mg/kg. Another 13 week study found very serious consequences at the highest doses; death, increased spleen and adrenal weights, ulceration, chronic inflammation and edema in the stomach. In a 90 day study, red blood cell glutathione levels, in a high dose group, were 40% below those of controls. MMS with citric acid has about 90% sodium chlorite leftover. So it's safer to use only chlorine dioxide alone.

Under some circumstances, calcium hypochlorite, MMS2, solutions can decompose to form some chlorate. In water it reacts to form hypochlorous acid and calcium hydroxide. This is the same chemistry as Clorox, sodium hypochlorite. The hydroxide part is caustic. It eats into body tissue. It's well known that these pool chemicals can irritate the eyes, if you swim a long time. He notes that hypochlorous acid is formed in the body. Yes. However it is formed inside white blood cells when they find an invading micro-organism, and only then. So it works only on the invader. Normal mammalian body cells, as well as bacteria, do not have a catalytically active detoxifying mechanism for it. So the hypochlorous acid can destroy body tissue as well as invaders. And ingesting it puts it in your bloodstream and body. Also, it's not as effective as chlorine dioxide. So it offers nothing new. No one should ingest MMS2, calcium hypochlorite, in any way. Swallowing a capsule containing solid calcium hypochlorite must surely "burn" the stomach. Also, calcium hypochlorite reacts with hydrochloric acid, stomach acid, to produce chlorine gas. Chlorine gas is the worst of all types of chlorine compounds. Here's a quote from one of Jim's books: "Actually my friend next door in the Nevada desert, Bill Boynton, came over one day and said that calcium hypochlorite killed germs in swimming pools and it might just be another MMS. He suggested that we try taking small amounts and see what happens. I figured if he was game to do it, I was too. We made up some gel capsules with calcium hypochlorite in them and started taking them and when they didn't kill us, we had some friends take them.... I decided to use the gel caps and started sending it out to people in the gel cap form. It's something a doctor could never do. He has the Hippocratic Oath and AMA and FDA looking over his shoulder. But I am an inventor and never took that oath." p.112.

Stabilized Oxygen, as sodium chlorite, is known by some people as a biocide for killing parasites. And at first, this is what Jim used, alone, to cure malaria. It's not clear who started selling Stabilized Oxygen, or why the mistaken name was used. It goes back far enough that the ingredient was not listed, leading to confusion. In 1929, Dr. Mois de Guevarra was selling a dry powder named "stabilized oxygen". In 1971, Dr. La Mar was the first to use a solution with "stabilized oxygen" to increase blood oxygen level. Evidently, it's unknown if either of these was sodium chlorite. E.D. Goodloe, 1971, sold "aerobic stabilized oxygen", produced in a 2-month-long production process in 14 stages. The oxygen is in association with sodium chloride, not sodium chlorite. Sodium chlorite could be used alone, as long as doses are below the vomiting threshold. Making up a new name, for Stabilized Oxygen (sodium chlorite), is what commercial companies do to sell a product. And changing the wording, of MMS, only causes confusion. Health newsletters simply use the names of the chemicals.

Getting sick, with Jim's method, is not a herxheimer reaction. The herxheimer reaction (Jarrisch and Herxheimer) is a phenomena originally observed in the treatment of syphilis. In general terms, it is described as a temporary increase of symptoms when antibiotics are administered. This effect happens with only a few diseases. Similar reactions have been found to occur in two kinds of borreliosis (Lyme disease and relapsing fever), brucellosis, Q fever, and trypanosomiasis. Herxheimer can occur within days to weeks after the onset of antibiotic therapy. The most common effects include: increased joint or muscle pain, headaches, chills, fever (usually low-grade), drop in blood pressure, hives and rash. Lyme is the main one, now, to have this problem. The extremely large doses of pure chlorine dioxide, that I took, caused no nausea, vomiting or diarrhea. In fact I felt high until the next morning. I've also swallowed a half eye-dropper of the 80% liquid sodium chlorite alone in water. It caused a vomit stomach spasm reaction within 30 minutes. Chlorous acid is evidently the one that causes liquid diarrhea. I got that with my first use of MMS with lime juice. The vomiting and diarrhea are the body's attempt to get rid of what you ingested. They are not a die-off or Herxheimer effect.

We owe Jim for making this subject public, and his other work. But I discovered, from being on the Genesis II Church Forum, that everyone was extremely closed minded about saying anything that disagreed with Jim. They ban people who disagree with anything, even a chemist. I was banned for trying to explain some of Jim's mistakes. I don't like to criticize people, but by telling people that he was the first to wire something for NASA, and worked on nuclear bombs, and so on, he's created an atmosphere that he is perfect, and knows more. That's the kind of problem in cults. Chlorine dioxide, and acidified sodium chlorite, are not new. There's been plenty of official health research, and patents, long before Jim found that "stabilized oxygen" (sodium chlorite) kills the malaria parasite. And some of his protocols may have too much sodium chlorite per day. He's so unprofessional that he doesn't give dosages per pound of weight of the patient. Obviously Jim has done no stomach sample tests, or blood tests to prove his claims. Chlorine dioxide has been said, by a chemist society, to be the best anti-pathogen. But do your own research. I'm not trying to scare you away from MMS. As long as you stay within the No Adverse Effect Levels, it's usable. If I had a deadly disease, I would use it even at somewhat damaging levels.

For recommended dose levels of the sodium chlorite part, see Dr. Hesselink's table below. One benefit of these chlorine oxidants is that, in low doses, they can stimulate white blood cells to produce cytokines which stimulate other white blood cells, activating the immune system. There's a great Patent, from 1990's work, with very exacting biochemical research. The test studies showed that sodium chlorite alone is successful at treating autoimmune diseases, which may include some diabetes-1, Parkinson, MS, ALS, etc. [Use of a chemically-stabilized chlorite solution for inhibiting an antigen-specific immune response]

And lets not forget about good old colloidal silver. It kills every bacterial disease. And there are new refinements about using ionic silver, Ag+. One company is making tetra silver-tetra oxide, which is said to be far superior. Also claims are being made that silver can kill some virus' and some fungi. So chlorine dioxide may best be used for it's more amazing results on problems like virus, fungus, parasites, diabetes, autoimmune, arterial plaque, Alzheimer brain plaque, COPD, tar deposits in smoker's lungs, and other problems that need more research and testing.

Dr. Hesselink's Table [Average 1 mg/kg per day]

Lab Tests with Chlorine Dioxide Disinfection examples include bacteria, yeast, fungi, mold, algae, spores, protozoans, cryptosporidia, actinomycetes, cysts, giardia and larval eggs (mosquito, tse tse fly), insect eggs and larvae (agricultural pests, fruit fly, floricultural and horticultural insects), problematic veligers (zebra mussels, quagga mussels), fish and shellfish diseases (VHS, KHS, ISA) and many others. Unlike chlorine, ClO2 has the ability to kill water-borne viruses such as legionella, cholera, dengue, hepatitis and typhoid. ClO2 also kills airborne viruses when misted into air. Airborne viruses include anthrax, influenza, SARS, smallpox, chickenpox and avian flu. ClO2 kills all known bacteria, including coliform, salmonella, E-coli, listeria and cinobacteria. ClO2 eliminates microbial slime (biofilm).

Hospital Infection Research Laboratory UK, Institute de Recherche Microbiologique France, Micropathology UK, Biotech-Germande France, Bluscientific UK, PHLS UK

Spores: Bacillus cereus, Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus subtilis var niger, Anthrax [used to disinfect the DC anthrax attack]

Mycobacteria: Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare, Mycobacterium chelonae, Mycobacterium fortuitum, Mycobacterium terrae, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, Mycobacterium tuberculosis Poli-R

Viruses: Canine Parvovirus, Coxsackivirus B3, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, Herpes simplex virus Type 1, HIV Type 1, Human Norovirus, Influenza virus Type A2, Poliovirus Type 1, Poliovirus Type 2, SARS,

Fungi: Aspergillus niger, Candida albicans

Bacteria: Acetinobacter baumannii, Clostridium difficile [C. diff], Enterococcus faecium (vancomycin resistant), Enterococcus hirae, Escherichia coli [E. coli], Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gentamicin resistant), Staphylococcus aureus, Staphylococcus aureus (methicillin resistant) [MRSA], Salmonella, Campylobacter, and Listeria monocytogenes

Hi Mary,

Can you tell me where I can get MMS. I had a supplier and now they're gone. Thanks.

Hello Phyllis,

Where can I buy MMS in British Columbia? I'm having a hard time finding a supplier in the province. Thanks.

I get my MMS from Keavyscorner.com as well. Comes very quickly and works great. Using it on my dog who has congestive heart failure hoping to reverse her symptoms. Using it myself prophylactically -- pretty sure that I have candida issues (many years of chronic UTI's) and cravings for sweets, especially after I eat.

Hmm, I tried two drops of the solution in a drink and took it twice with no bad "side effects" but then again I am pretty healthy with the exception of eosinophilic disorders. It could just be that your body has a lot of toxins/pathogens/whatever sickness is in your body to begin with.

I don't care that this is 7 years old post. Here are my 13 cents. I experienced those symptoms on the 4th day of water fasting. Similar symptoms when I suddenly increased h2o2 (hydrogen peroxide) drops. So you were you saying I ingested Clo2 when I water fasted? Herx symptoms, toxins getting released and parasites dying, you are feeling their death (until you expel them) People will perish for the lack of knowledge.

Could you please tell me what ratio of MMS to solution did you use in the enema?

Also how does the naturalist doctor use MMs - by mouth, on the skin, by enema? If you are not sure would you please send me an email with his name, phone or City/Town some time? Thank you so much. Very much appreciated.

Best Wishes, Roo

Hi,

We built a health resort near Phi Mai and want give free MMS to the local people. Is there in Nakhon Ratschasima a pharmacy they can order for us? Thanks in advance...

Best regards Ladda and Reinhold

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I hope you will get tested by your doctor to know whether or not you still have herpes. I'm sorry to be a negative nelly but I don't believe you can rid yourself of this disease in any permanent way by some "miracle" cure.

I've had herpes for 15 years and barely ever think of it anymore. My outbreaks are almost non-existent. When I get one, it's minimally invasive. So, I just want to tell you...anyone who reads this and is so desperate; please be careful with your health in your desperation to rid yourself of this virus. You can't. BUT, you most definitely can do things to lessen it's severity. There are many herbs and supplements you can use to minimize your outbreaks. Try tea tree oil on the outbreak. Use any one of these herbs internally as a tea, or in capsule form fight outbreaks; lemon balm, lavender, thyme, oregano. And use the supplement L-lysine in conjunction with those herbs.

Even some foods can trigger your outbreaks. I have to be careful with foods like corn, yams, rhubarb, rice, and strawberries. Usually the food problems are caused by a thing called formic acid (as in rhubarb, and strawberries).

You need to make sure your friends took the mms properly... also remember you cannot have it with vitamins c as this will deactivate its effectiveness. I don't believe the old adage "what works for some may not work for others" because we are generally the same. And this works to kill any virus bacteria fungus or mildew.. the doses may need to be upped ... you just need to find the right dosage for you.

Colin, someone here mentioned Nutrient Power by Walsh. Google it.

Hi Everybody, I suffer depression and it has been diagnosed as bi polar. I'm currently suffering at this time and anyone who have suffered with this would know how I feel. ( seriously bad ) Can anyone help with an experience or advice? I'm currently taking 2 drops MMS, 2 activator and 6 drops of dmso every 90 minutes and just started yesterday (June 15 2016 ) Any response would be greatly appreciated. Regards Colin

I have the dreaded Blastocystis also, but do Not want to take the poisons from the PIC (pharmaceutical industrial complex).

Did MMS work for you? or anyone else reading this post?

If u are trying to help yourself, make your body alkaline not acidic, I am a brain cancer survivor of 38 years and going strong.

My son is autistic 18 years old? Is autism curable with mms?

H: Try searching using the keyword "Sodium Chlorite" or "28% Sodium Chlorite". Adding lemon juice drops to the S.C. will make MMS.

Hello there, can somebody tell me where I can get immediate supply of MMS in the Philippines, more precisely in Manila. If I order it from aboad, it takes between 3 to 8 days to get there. My live-in-partner is actually at the hospital with dengue fever. There is no other medicine than MMS that can help as we found with the son of her sister. We had tried it on him and it had worked very effectively. Or any neighboring country with one day delivery. Thanks you all..... Rolf

I can't get help from the people I've tried buying from. It is understandable but I sure would like to talk to someone who uses it. Until now I've only used it for colds, flu and to prevent infections when the dog scratched me. Now I'm trying it for my RA . Don't know if I'm doing it right. Need help! Phyllis

J: I use 28% liquid Sodium Chlorite drops which converts to Chlorine Dioxide in the Limeade or Lemonade in about 5 minutes.

Question about mms:timH - the drops of mms you use with lemonade is it activated, or not activated.

Thanks Timh, MMS is recommended by Mel of Morgellons site as a remedy but used in a slightly manner from Mr Humble's method.

OK, I am excited at the major progress Jim Humble and his little band of health warriors have made over the last few yrs. in regards to Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS). I have purchased & read the first 2 publications Breakthrough: The Miracle Mineral Solution Of The Twenty-first Century Parts 1 & 2,4th Edition

Without going into detail of all the major interventions in my severe condition, of both pharmaceutical and natural remedies, I can say from personal experience, that these words "breakthrough" and "miracle" are not simply or exclusively marketing slogans. I have used MMS sporadically for a few yrs to now and among the arsenal of medicines & remedies I have used to keep myself above ground with a pulse, that MMS is the top gun and no matter how bad I get sometimes, I always have MMS that absolutely has the power & potential to stop the dying process.

MMS is so powerful a pathogen killer that it must be administered in small doses and increase slowly, as is recommended by Jim and his team. As a way for illustration, Jim describes one molecule of ClO2 as a Tasmanian Devil in the cartoon and he get's off the bus where there are five evil pathogen thugs ready to kill the people coming onto the street, but Taz licks em' because he has the power. In chemical analogy or language, 1 molecule of ClO2 forcefully accepts 5 electrons from the nucleus of whatever number of pathogens (proly 2-3). That is, ClO2 is a powerful reduction agent. When the nuclei of the pathogen looses it's orbiting electrons, it becomes entirely unstable and explodes (which causes the herx reaction in the partaker).

As a "killer extraordinaire" of pathogens, MMS is proving that many of the degenerative diseases like diabetes, cardiovascular, cancer, etc have a common item of fugal, bacterial, or viral that exploits the defenses. Once the pathogen is killed and inflammation subsides, then natural healing can occur.

By way of introduction aside from the strict measurements outlined by Jim, let me suggest something I most often do which works very well. Make yourself a container of low sugar Limeade or Lemonade (I prefer Limeade for better taste) with no added Vit-C (most commercial products do contain very small amounts but most not enough to negate MMS) as Vit-C negates the MMS. Pour a small glass, maybe 4oz and place 2 drops MMS into the beverage and wait 5 minutes for the conversion to Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2). Drink this and sit down while the pathogens die. I have reached a 6 drop dose range in a 6oz glass of cooled Limeade that is very effective in my case and sometimes up to 8 drops but get a little sick to my stomach, once a day. Yes, you will taste the chlorine and it is a little uncomfortable and maybe adding a little more natural sugar will help with the Lemon or Limeade.

Jim & company have developed many different and effective protocols of MMS but I thought this little method I do is a good introduction.

The common tick disease, Ehrlichiosis, caused by the Brown Dog Tick, rapidly dehydrates dogs. Because of this, an IV bag is essential if the animal has stopped drinking (and eating) and the skin does not snap back when pinched.

Hello Estella;

On the MMS "burn"...

I'll give you my idea...maybe the MMS burned the lung and from that open wound you got an infection. Just my wild guess!!!!

If me, I'd get a steam inhaler and use colloidal silver to try and kill the infection ... IF that is what is going on. I'd use the inhaler twice a day for three days and judge if I could tell a positive effect. If so, I keep up for a full week.

HI U ESTELLA, , , , , , , , , , have never made ClO2 via MMS method, but made it by the tons using the R-2 process for 40 years in the paper industry. We breathed it when our bleaching residuals got out of hand or we had a leak or a generator controlled explosion. When it got bad, we had to don gas masks because it can give you pneumonia or just flat out kill you.

Myself, I would not breath the gas. I would take it orally as most folks do. We had a tonic that we took to counteract but I've slept since then, so I can't help you.

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E: Try the herb Mullein Leaf and the supplement Glucosamine, for starters (which will hopefully resolve the problem, let us know).

I breathed in MMS fumes stronger than recommended. Now my congestion has moved to top of the lung and I have a chronic cough. What should I do?

I would also like to know, I have a son with autism.

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Я из России и я тоже аупила MMS . Пили всей сеÐ1/4ьёй и знааоÐ1/4Ñ‹ пили и детяÐ1/4 давали. У Ð1/4еня на Ð1/4ного снизилась аллергия, у дочаи перестал болеть лицевой нерв, у Ð1/4ужа значительное улучшение , у него раа 2 ой степени. Таа что, ато то называет это ядоÐ1/4, а я саажу, что это леаарство. НаÐ1/4 поÐ1/4огло.

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 Hello. I am from Russia and I also bought MMS. They drank the whole family and are familiar drank and children were given. I fell to the lot of allergies, my daughter stopped hurting facial nerve, the husband considerable improvement, his cancer 2nd degree. So, someone calls it poison, and I say that this medicine. We helped. Thank you Jim Humble for his invention.

If you had candida you weren't healthy. I think it's cleansing you and bringing your problems to the surface.

I would like to add that a Mr Friedman claims that he cured morgellons by using MMS as well as supplements and dietary measures.

MMS is not chlorine in any form.

If you don't want to use it then don't but misleading the readers here with false infomation is not helping us.

Maybe you ought to read the book or go go to jim humble's website and read.

You are dosing wrong!! 1 drop mms to 1 drop citric acid and wait 20 seconds.This stuff is powerful in our bodies so be careful how and how much you take.

If you take too much too fast your body will react terribly. Go slow, small drops(1/4 to 3)to begin, up to a maximum of a 3 drop dose per day for three weeks.

That's 24 drops mms and 24 drops citric acid in 32 oz water for a daily dose.

Put 2 drops mms and 2 drops citric acid in a glass and mix together for twenty seconds. It produces a mist (best way I can describe it) that you inhale through your nose and throat. You won't see the mist.

Take it slow, just sniff until you feel a biting sensation in your nose or throat and stop, once only. It's sort of like getting a whiff of ammonia if you have ever experienced that sensation.

I use it daily for my lungs and a sore throat and it has worked to alleviate a sore throat.

I am new on this board so I may not be available for questions yet.

One note you cannot use this with any liquid with vitamin C.

I am a user of mms.

I have used it in a spray bottle for toenail fungus and it works.

I am presently taking mms2, step 2 for throat cancer due to asbestos and it has taken away my perpetual sore throat for now but not sure its gone. I was short of breath but that has gone away. I have ordered the online cancer test to verify the cancer and continuing mms1 and mms2.

When I first started the treatment I first ordered the book. Its stated in the book that some people are cured of diabetes in the three week suggested treatment. Three weeks is kind of a short span of time to cure something that has been in your system for a long period time. I have diabetes and it is improving, my Blood Sugar readings are where they should be now. This protocol affects your pancreas and corrects your underlying diabetes problem.

MMS is the wonder treatment for all ailments BUT you must use the prescribed protocols and go slow it is not an instant cure.

Try some Kefir for your bowels, sorta tastes like yogurt but is not. Yogurt only has 2 or three probotics where kefir has 6 or more and the best thing about it is that it populates your bowels.

Have you learned anymore about Parasites and Medications since this post? Thanks!

I knew someone who Dr. told to take baths in very diluted bleach water for mrsa. (sorry I dont know ratio) Also to use hibiclens topically which is chlorhexidine gluconate solution 4%, skin cleanser.

If you can't find solution otc at store, ask your druggist.

You may try this in addition to that great suggested supplement. Hope this helps!

It should work for a MRSA infection - make sure you are not taking vitamin C near when you are taking the mms - I saw it work first hand - a friend had a severe MRSA infection burrowing a hole in his stomach just above his belly button - a bug bite turned bad. It was about 5 inches in diameter and beet red and in the center a 1 -2 inch round ball of horrible pussy infection and the flesh concave into his stomach - it was a sight! His Dr.said it would take 6 months of drugs to heal followed by plastic surgery to fill in the flesh that was being eaten by the mrsa - 5 weeks later using mms daily - no infection and the flesh is filled right in and cant even tell that there was an infection there - so it does work for mrsa - also make sure it isn't left in sunlight as it will neutralize it within 10 minutes.

I'm using MMS in coffee enemas. Never seen so many parasites coming out of me before! Sorry...i know it's disgusting. My naturalist doctor uses MMS for kids with autism. He says autism is curable!

My dad got a bad tooth ache due to infection and he took 6 drops of activated MMS and tooth ache was gone on the next day. Note that he kept solution quite a while in his mouth before swallowing it.

My mum's sore throat vanished within 24 hours after gargling 8 drops of activated MMS solution with DMSO added to it.

The best for the end.

I personally experienced the powerful healing properties of MMS when I suffered from chronic candidiasis infection. It was a nightmare.

I was very weak, headache, had oral thrush and passing a lot of gas, sinusitis.

I followed Jim Humble instruction, I took 3 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day, for 1 week. I must admit that the taste was horrible, couldn't bear it, but I continued. I also had diarrhea when taking MMS whereby I could go the toilet 2 times in a day.

Then the 2nd week, I took 4 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. Again I had severe diarrhea, passing out even more gas, stomach upset. I believe that fungus was now under attack by MMS as my body was detoxifying.

3rd week, I took 5 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. I was happy in the morning when I examine my tongue, oral thrush gone, but still there was some swelling on side of my tongue. No more headache and I regained energy. But still I had to deal with the diarrhea which was extremely loose. My sinusitis associated to the infection, seemed to be unaffected, I had that blocked nostril when lying down to sleep at night.

4th week, I took 6 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. No more oral thrush, swelling on side of my tongue was still there, feeling more energetic, diarrhea was less frequent, was passing little gas by now, sinusitis remained unaffected.

5th week, I took 7 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. No more oral thrush, swelling on side of my tongue decreased significantly but was still there, energy level was back to normal, diarrhea was quite rare, my digestive tract was almost normal, was passing very little gas, sinusitis remained unaffected.

6th week, I couldn't keep on with MMS as I felt that my body was now saturated with the horrible taste. I felt like throwing up each time I took MMS. So I stopped taking it. Instead, I took organic red grape juice. 1 liter per day. Hoping to build up my immune system, after 2 weeks on organic grape juice, oral thrush vanish, energy level return back to normal, no more swelling on side of tongue, sinusitis decreased significantly, my digestive tract is back to normal, no more headache.

It looks that my blocked nostril associated with my chronic sinusitis is now disappearing. I now have a very lightly blocked nose at night when lying down.

I even gave the surplus of MMS bottles to a friend suffering from stomach cancer. I'll keep you updated on that.

Thanks Jim. God bless

I'm just starting.. Is MMS good for atrial fibrillation, cholesterol and kidney function Level 1?

if the FDA is saying it is bad than you KNOW it must be highly effective and beneficial.

Shree, I so resonate with your post. My experience with MMS is very positive. As long the protocol is followed precisely as per instructions, side effects are only positive.

Of course, Ayurveda stands on its own and still needs to be discovered here. I am glad you are doing well.

Namaste, Om

Hi friends! I will tell you my experience of MMS and general opinion. Experience : I am 68. I had lot many digestive problems, general weakness and suffering from sciatica for more than 30 years. Even if I will eat handful of light food (I am vegetarian) I used to suffer sever stomach pain and continuous burping for at least 2 - 3 hrs. I tried several medicines but no relief.

When I took only 10% concentration MMS, 10 drops( 2 drops per hour ) for two days, a real miracle happened. I had a mild diarrhea next day but all troubles vanished. I continued for a week and today is the 8th day. I am truly feeling more energetic (without any tonic or vitamin supplement ) and younger. But what is about my sciatica problem? I frequently used to take Calcium and Vit D3 pills but no use. And MMS does not contain calcium or vitamin D3. Then how I got at least 90% relief from MMS? Many many thanks to Jim Humble!

My sincere opinion: 1) I believe in Ayurveda, a great Indian science of Health. As per Ayurveda every substance (herbs, minerals, chemical compounds etc.) is either Amrut or Poison which depends upon the quantity and method you take. 2) Body requires medicines only on supportive basis and not continuously. 3) How our body reacts with any drug, nobody will ever know 100% 4) Personal experience is direct proof than any theoretical discussion.

And at the end I will say about MMS - If you are afraid, don't try it. If want to try, start with small doses than suggested. If found beneficial try it cautiously and whenever required. Observe any long term side effects. If observed any adverse effect stop it immediately. Every individual is different.

God bless you.