Turpentine Health Benefits

Hi Bill,

I am getting ready to try turpentine for the first time! I have a few questions.

Does biofilm only exist in the intestines or can it exist throughout the body? In other words, if getting rid of biofilm is the main goal, then is it better to make sure the turp gets into the intestines (with castor oil like you have mentioned elsewhere) instead of the bloodstream?

Hi, I second the thoughts on turpentine use. If anyone can share their helpful experiences and even the kind they used. Thanks.

After reading all the stuff on Turps, I wanted to try it out as I have many of the symtoms of candida. I got a bottle from a friend, took it home but was very reluctant to start. I took 1/4 tsp mixed with 1 tsp of castor oil. I felt a slight headache but nothing to stop me from my daily chores, it went away later in the day. I took 2 cascara segrada pills to ensure I passed it out, was not sure of this stuff!

I am happy to say, I had a lot of diarreah, the next day my SINUSITIS which had been a major problem for as long as I know myself was gone, I was not getting up to blow my nose all the time, it was GREAT, I also had so much energy, OMG, I started sending emails to all my friends I was elated. I have not taken another dosage I am still scared as they say it can damage your liver & kidneys. The person I gave it to has really red eyes so I am not sure, I wish I knew more about this but the energy increase is sure worth it.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD POST MORE ABOUT THEIR REACTION. Please...please, we only talk about what we take and why we ara taking it, it sure would be NICE if we talked about the after effects, GOOd or BAD...please...this is a wonderful site, especially in today's society where you can't get nothing but doctors and their prescription pads!

Saquita,

Regarding your daughter's swollen belly; I accidentally caused my granddaughter's distended belly by insisting on feeding her oatmeal with breakfast. I have a zeal about feeding kids real foods while they are in my care and I thought oats had a part in that mix. For her, they didn't. She would return home to her microwave meals and her belly would go flat again. Although you are probably right, I just wanted to add that you might have a food allergy on your hands. ~With best wishes that you find your answer.

Hi Saquita...I've been helping a group of parents with autistic children and they have been using turps to good effect for their kids. The dosage for a 3 y o would be between 1/4 and 1/2 tspn of turpentine taken together with a teaspoon or two of castor oil. This protocol should be used only twice a week.

I've also discovered that using castor oil with turps is a key factor in the protocol. The turps will kill all manner of pathogens and parasites but will not harm the beneficial gut flora. The castor oil is necessary because it helps to spread the turps throughout the whole area of the intestines for a better and more thorough all-round effect.

I think that perhaps your child's gut may be overrun with pathogens and so the turps/castor oil would be a good protocol to follow.

Other protocols that you can also investigate and consider for your child are supplementing Boswellia(Frankincense) and/or undecanoic acid(which is derived from castor oil). Frankincense is called shallaki in Ayurvedic medicine and they use it widely in Ayurveda for gut problems as well as for arthritis.

There was also a mother in the autistic parents group who successfully and completely healed her child back to normal(according to her ATEC scores). One of the child's main anti-parasitic protocols was taking cinnamon, clove, raw garlic and tumeric mixed with ghee or clarifed butter several times a day with food. This protocol kills both parasites and pathogens. The key point in this protocol was that she used ghee -- a saturated oil -- as the carrier medium.

Many people miss the importance of taking nutrients in the best way possible by using the correct carrier medium. Notably she took all those herbal ingredients mixed with ghee because all the active ingredients within the herbs/nutrients themselves were probably oil soluble and not so soluble in water. That's why she was so successful with this protocol. You could also probably use coconut oil as a carrier substitute for the ghee. Virgin coconut oil also kills a wide variety of enveloped pathogens as well.

Also please be aware that if your child has a widespread gut infection and takes the turps/castor oil protocol then she will probably suffer a Herx or die-off reaction with accompanying strange or hyper behaviour. After a widespread pathogen/parasite kill in the gut, with consequent temporary release of further poisons into her gut(from the killed pathogens/parasites), these poisons will be temporarily absorbed into her blood which may perhaps cause some strange or hyper behaviours. This is normal and unavoidable and should abate after a short while after her liver eventually removes these die-off poisons from her blood.

Greetings All, I am a mom of 4 beautiful children and we are all in a health crisis. I've been reading about parasites and I know this to be the culprit. My 3 year old has already had her adenoids removed. I have refused the doctor to take out her tonsils, which are huge. Also, her belly is dissented and she craves sugar..I know that there is a better way. I'm not sure of the doses I should be using. Can you please enlighten me on this topic.

Hi Carol! I actually ordered turpentine from diamond g forest turpentine and am taking it myself. It is a huuuuge difference in the canned stuff from the hardware store and I would be willing to help you get some

I'm new to this conversation, but I have ordered 4oz of turpentine from G Forest as well and it smells so so so good. I just absolutely love it. I used to take it with sugar but now lately I haven't been taking it internally. I made a cream of just virgin coconut oil and some turp in it, and have been applying it religiously to my finger. I burnt it on my mower at least 2 months ago and it has been real wrinkly looking and then I ended up getting a blister there and it made it worse.

Well after applying that coconut/terp to it it is finally starting to heal very nicely.

Also I have been using the terp in an enema and have been getting out lots of trash, some looks like flukes. They are light green in color and looks like dried grape skins or tomato skins. I only use about 5 drops at a time, but it seems to work well. Although I haven't been able to find much info on this subject, so I tried it with success.

Hi Conner...Canada Turpentine or Canada Balsam(Terebinthina Canadensis) is well known in old western medical pharmacopia and is derived from the fir tree. See this description. I prefer to use the pure gum spirit of turpentine from the pine tree.

It seems, from all your symptoms, that you probably do have candida problems. The muscle spasms you are having are probably due to a lack of magnesium and/or a lack of potassium in your diet. To confirm whether you have candida for yourself(since doctors are so hopeless at accurately diagnosing candida problems), you should take this free questionnaire online(which is based on Dr William Crook's questionnaire for diagnosing andconfirming candida):

Candida Questionnaire

You also stand a good chance of having low thyroid or hypothyroid condition due to the effects of candida waste toxins in the blood. So your immune system will also probably be impaired.

Since you live in UK, I would simply use the Myland's brand of pure gum turpentine which is made in UK. Just do a google search on "Myland's Turpentine" to find UK vendors.

You can also use Kerosene to help get rd of candida:

Kerosene: The Universal Healer

If you do have systemic candida, I've posted my full protocol here on EC. See this link. I've also written a book which is sold on EC and amazon.com that goes into much more detail about candida as a pathogen and also provides and describes a more focused multi-protocol to get rid of this disease. The point I'm making here is that systemic candida can be extremely hard to defeat. So taking just one thing against serious candida issues usually will not cure this problem -- the candida either never goes away completely or it just keeps comes back. That's why you really need to follow a more focused multi-nutrient protocol to get rid of this disease. You will need to use other candida killers such as lugol's iodine, borax, alkalizing etc as well as following a special diet with lifestyle changes for a successful outcome.

Hi, recently, well today, I've came across Turpentine for Candida. Would this be safe for an 18 year old to consume and if so how much should I take? Here is what I have, which may or may not help:

• white tongue
• psoriasis on scalp/forehead
• brain fog
• strained eyes / losing vision!
• on my left leg, by the shin, I get muscle spasms
• irregular BM
• very tired

Thank you so much.

I am about to try the Turp therapy - just ordered a bottle from Georgia. However I wanted to comment specifically on the subject of MMS and parasites.

I have had good success with Borax for candida, and we have done some "cycles" of MMS with the family just for overall health. I am always up for the next level of personal bio-hack.

I found in December that one of my sheep had a tapeworm. Perfect time to test the MMS. (She was very ill and had lost a lot of weight. I was out of town and found out she had the runs for weeks)

I suspected that the MMS would not work alone, so I started the MMS with DMSO, AM and PM.

After 5 days I added Standard process Zymex II (a parasite specific enzyme formula). 3 days later I added a few papaya seeds to the oats. after 3 doses of papaya seeds (PM, AM, PM) I went into the barn to find about 2 feet of tapeworm.

Within 3 days her poops were pretty normal, and she has doubled in size since then.

Her sister started with runny poops about 2 months later. I did the same protocol and she passed the tapeworm exactly the same. Hers was at least 4 feet.

Recently we took a video instruction on how to take turpentine bath in correct way.

It is in Russian at the moment but we will add English titles soon. Anyway it will give you an idea how the whole procedure looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKWRjSa4WM&feature=youtu.be

Hi Kristen, I completely agree with your comment. Bill is always prompt to reply to queries and offers EC readers full and free use of his extensive research and studies. It's nice of you to note that too! We are a very lucky bunch of readers.

I just wanted to say Bill does such a wonderful job helping people. What a thorough answer you gave this woman, and everyone else. God bless you for taking the time to help these total strangers.

Yes, we make and sell them worldwide. I cannot place the link to our website but if you will Google - turpentine bath tonic you will find it first in search results. We almost finished the video about the procedure which will be on Youtube and just need to put titers in English language version.

It is quite difficult to make yellow tonic but more easy to make the white one.

Ingredients of yellow tonic - vegetable turpentine -750ml, castor oil-300ml, oleic acid-200ml, caustic soda-20g and water -200ml. But you cannot just mix it, it a special technology to make the tonic.

Ingredients of white tonic - vegetable turpentine -500ml, water -550ml, baby soap -30g, salicylic acid -3g, camphor spirith -20g. Again, it a special technology to make this tonic.

To Bill from Phillipines, thankyou for supplying the Vittyasom details, I too was searching for somewhere like this to buy Lugols. Next time in BKK I will look out for them.

Hi Sheryl...There is a form of Kerosene that is made in Australia that can be supplemented. Walter Last mentions that Digger's Low Odour Kerosene, an Aussie brand, is a safe and useful supplement which you might well be able to purchase in New Zealand, being such a close neighbour to Australia. See this article -- his recommendations on which forms of kerosene/turpentine to use is given lower down in this article:

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

So you might also be able to purchase Digger's Low Odour Kerosene, hopefully, at any hardware store or camping shop in your area.

Some further information which might help you-- Klean-Strip products like kerosene are also sold at Walmart and Home Depot stores worldwide.

Dear Mama to Many, I too have been skeptical of the posts I've read about borax, turpentine and peroxide. At the same time, I suspect the need for these remedies could be very well caused by something in our food supply that is acceptable by many. I learned this, piecemeal, by the process of elimination for over twenty years.

I've had multiple head and neck injuries, beginning with emotional and physical abuse by my mother, automobile accidents and horses. One of the vertebra in my neck is pressing against my spinal cord. I've had arthritis and degenerative disk disease of my neck, back, spine and big toe diagnosed. I had sciatica.

I was in a coma for a month and my communication skills are poor. I felt like I needed to give you this background because of things I've posted here.

I have learned that any pain I encounter is always caused by some hidden source of MSG I've ingested. When I have hay fever or asthma, I can look back at what I've eaten and always find the source that has weakened my system. At the same time the fruits and vegetables, that are supposed to make and keep us healthy, have been genetically modified in one way or the other and cannot provide the assimilation we expect. "Organic" is no longer safe and fresher is not better. True, everyone is going to react differently because no one eats identical when pregnant. The way our systems develop will not be identical because MSG crosses the placenta. (Intern. J. Neuroscience, 1984, Vol. 23, pp. 117-126)

For me the culprit is the flowing agent in salt. Through years of weeding out the things I found out were causing me problems...this tiny amount of a substance is what caused me so much pain and breathing difficulties. Flowing agents are in more than we can keep tabs on, but what is in our common table salt, I believe, is the root of many ailments. Very few are considering the binders, fillers and capsules used in many vitamins, supplements or medications. The majority of these things are "manufactured" from plants that have been genetically modified. What is advertised as "vegetable" is more than likely from corn or soy. I'm not in pain as my x-rays, CT's or MRI's indicate I should be.

I'm just sharing what I know has happened to me. The more that man fools with the food to make it drought and disease free, there seems to be more need for medications that are making things worse because long term studies cannot be conducted...just a quick fix for any problem without thinking about long term consequences. I watch a lot of news and undercover investigations that alerted me to what is happening in the world. The commercials in between were about "new ailments" needing new medications that had more side effects than the reason for taking the medication. It's been a long journey and I have learned much.

I read my Bible every day and I see prophecy being fulfilled...as many have seen for generations. We are closer, now, to the end of all things than our great-grandparents. 1 John 5:19 I hope I've made some sense to you and hopefully correct any way I might have offended you. KT

I am trying to get Klean Strip kerosend but it is not available in New Zealand? Where could I buy some?

Hi Mama and thank you

I have a better understanding of what these things are... you surely wrote out a great description and I so appreciate it. Maybe it is the names that throws me off. Borax and turpentine.. I keep thinking it's what takes paint off things...LOL

Anyway; I take a few things but I would love to know as a 60 year old woman to go as affordable as I can what would be the most ideal supplements or herbs to have quality of life and try and stay healthy being a strict budget....besides a good diet and water and exercise... like what supplements do we need and what can we do without. I do this by trial and error and try and stay alkaline and of course watching my blood pressure.. but I mean if I could get away with using lemons I would save a ton of money.........lol...

thanks again

Hello Jack...I'm afraid that I can't make head or tail of the turpentine images that you show because I can't read Thai.

I live in the Philippines and I also supplement turpentine regularly and the stores here also have very questionable sources of turpentine.

So I improvised.

The other thing is that inflammable products like Georgia Diamond G organic gum turpentine are not generally allowed to be shipped out of the US. I checked. But you will be able to order and ship turpentine from an ebay.com UK source because they will ship turpentine abroad from UK. Just type "Turpentine UK" into the ebay.com search box and the first few results will be from UK vendors. That's one option for you.

For myself, I simply improvised as I've said. Essential pine oil made from the Scots Pine is what I use and supplement. This stuff is triple distilled and so its quite strong. This form of pine oil might also be obtainable in Thailand from a health shop, for instance, in Bangkok -- not sure about the Thai provinces though.

I don't know whether you know, but you can also use ordinary lamp kerosene -- this is equivalent to turpentine. To help you to decide, here is a more expert and informative article by Walter Last, an Aussie who more thoroughly describes the many other different forms that you can use and supplement that are derived from pine trees, petroleum products and coal products. All are produced from various distillation techniques. See this link for more information:

Kerosene -- The Universal Healer

If you are also suffering from candida, then you will be able to buy most of the nutrient chemicals advised on this site in Bangkok. Just tell the Bangkok taxi driver to go to the big winged angel monument(Democracy Monument??) near the palace and get out there. Then look for a chemical store called Vittyasom Ltd. This place has all manner of chemicals, including Borax and Lugols Iodine (upstairs in the doctor's pharmacy they make the Lugols iodine up for you while you wait). This is my own personal source for cheaper but effective nutrient chemicals that I use.

Dear Bee,

I hear what you are saying! I often pretty hesitant to try something new with health and will have to read about it many, many times before I jump in to it, especially when it is labelled as something that is not to be ingested! I, too, have thought, “Turpentine? Are you crazy?” “Borax? Isn't that poisonous?” etc.

But often the more I look in to it, the more sense it makes. The turpentine that Om mentions, the organic stuff made in GA, is distilled from pine rosin. It is a completely natural product. It reminds me of how my sons made maple syrup in the spring by tapping our maple trees and boiling off the water. They took a part from the tree and processed it and made a great and nutritious food! So, I bought some of the organic turpentine from Ga. It smells quite amazing. Very “piney.” But, true to my nature, it sat for months without me even trying it. I had no specific need for it, but just wanted it on hand to try when I got brave enough. I have used it topically a couple of times for joint pain. I am currently using it to worm my goats since nothing else natural or otherwise has worked. So far, so good.

Regarding Borax…it is a natural product mined from the earth, like salt.

Here is a quote I love:

“Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.” ~ Paracelsus

Taking a ton of borax would be a bad idea, and so would taking a ton of salt. Likewise, lobelia is an amazing herb. But if too much is taken, it causes vomiting.

I believe that people are taking borax and turpentine in very small quantities, measured by drops or ¼ teaspoons. Drinking them in any large quantity would not seem wise.

Borax is sodium tetraborate decahydrate – or Na₂B₄O₇ • 10H₂O. Sounds rather scary, except, that when you break it down you get, Sodium, Boron, and H2O.

I am just beginning to use these two things myself, so I have no remedies or successes to share yet, but hope to at some point.

The hydrogen peroxide inhalation therapy sounded rather scary to me for a while. But then I realize you are dealing with hydrogen and oxygen. Things we already breathe. I have used it in a nebulizer recently with shocking success.

Anyway, some skepticism is wise, I think. It makes sense to read and study and ask questions. Thanks for asking valid and good questions. I will look forward to hearing some other thoughts on the matter!

~Mama to Many~

100% pure gum turpentine. This comes for Georgia, US. This is what I ordered and received. On their website you can see how this is won from cultured trees and shipped worldwide.

I used a questionable product before and even though I phoned the manufacturer, got a vague reply. With dire results.

The pure gum 100% product from Georgia, US, is the one to use. Look it up online.

Namaste, Om

So you want to drink the turpentine.. Can someone please tell me the safety of this? I can't understand some of the natural remedies although I won't question them, but some days when I read them I cringe.. Like Borax , turpentine, are these things safe? does one drink them??

excuse my ignorance...

I do love EC though and thank you for the valuable info...

I'm very interested in pursuing a turpentine solution to my candida problems, which have haunted me for years. Now I'm living in NongKhai, northeast thailand, a very beautiful place, but also a very isolated one. In the last week I've searched all the hardware/painting stores within a 15 kilometre radius and the only turpentine I could fine is this bottle. In the second photo you'll notice the percentages written on the label, apparently white spirits is the 95% and turpentine is the 5%. What do you think, should I give this bottle a try? Might it be safe? Appreciate your help, Jack

Hi, I've been a sufferer of a severe candida infection for many years now. Just recently it has come to my attention that taking small doses of pure gum turpentine can eradicate candida in many cases. I'm dying to try this! However, where I live (thailand) there seems to be no pure gum turpentine anywhere. I've found a small bottle labeled just turpentine and nothing else except Chinese letters that no one can read. What should I do? I'm tempted to get this bottle and try it, any ideas? Any informed opinions? Greatly Appreciated, thanks.

Carol: Search the Ebay pages and you should find a product of god quality and shipping details are provided by seller. Here is the page:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Health-Beauty-/26395/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Turpentine

Let us know of any progress.

Hi. I've read everything I can find on turpentine, and really think it will help me. Thank you to everyone who has written of their experiences - it is so helpful.

I contacted Diamond G Forest Products, as they seem to provide the best turpentine. I was told that they don't ship to England. I have managed to obtain an alternative, but am not sure about the quality.

Is there anybody in the USA who would be interested in buying a can for me, and posting it out to me? I will of course pay for this.

Carol

You make your own emulsions? Is there a formula and recipe for that?

Thank you Bill: you could be right and maybe I took too much. I have since stopped and will be very methodical when I resume. I got mine at home Depot which is where Tony Pantelleresco gets his. He is the Healing With Turpentine Man on You Tube (Canada). Oddly enough I had this same reaction to a product formulated to "Solvent Remove", so somehow I believe this is related to my liver, as the product was full of sulfer type amino acids like NAC, Methionine etc. When I asked my naturopath what happened he had no answer.

Next time I try I will have the Diamond G Forest Products one.

I will report on my progress.

Thank you so much for your time Bill. I always like reading your posts and learn sooo much.

Mary

Hi Mary...In my own continued use of turpentine, in all the research and articles I've seen and read, in the autism group that are also using the turpentine protocol, I have never come across those symptoms that you describe when supplementing turpentine.

I have no idea what turpentine dose you are taking so here are some reminders and caveats:

* You should only ever take Turpentine at a maximum frequency of twice a week. The adult dose is 1 teaspoon. Work up to the one teaspoon dose slowly.

* You should also take castor oil with the turps dose. The castor oil dose can vary from 1 tablespoon(mild laxative) to 4 tablespoons(strong laxative). You can mix in a little honey or BSM for taste.

* Under no circumstances should you be taking turpentine continually on a daily basis for extended periods. For serious problems, the maximum number of consecutive days allowed for supplementing turps is 7 days only.

Dr Jennifer Daniels does report that in one case she had a woman who initially ignored her advice and who took too high a dose of turpentine to start with and she had black areas on her skin andface as a result due to excessive detox through the skin. These black areas all disappeared when she reduced her dose. Dr Daniels article is here.

Hi Bill: I have been using turpentine successfully for some time. Now when I take it my teeth turn a black tinge and my tongue turns the same in the middle. Also its like the cells on my tongue get a little longer. its weird and disturbing. Also, it takes about a week without Turpentine for it to go away. I don't want to stop as the results were spectacular.

thanks in advance for any thoughts you have, Mary

It is VERY important to use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and the method is very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes.

Do search Google for turpentine bath procedure or turpentine bath tonic.

OMIGOSH. What a miracle this is. Just the fact that this turpentine treatment found me is pretty mind-blowing. I've been struggling with a intense parasite infestation since I lived in Honduras more than 25 years ago. Done and done and done everything I could find.

Appreciate all the instructions and suggestions I found here…as usual, a very informed group.

Day Five: I slept soundly for 8 uninterrupted hours! Woke refreshed. Have had clean energy without caffeine all day. No post lunch nap attack.

Day 3 I got a little over confident since I was doing so well…took a full tsp of turpentine with oj in the morning. Oops. Massive herx.

The next morning I came out of it by taking sodium ascorbate and some IP-6. Have felt great since.

Used molasses and coconut oil for a carrier.

I'll report my progress next week. Amazing turn around in only 5 days. Who knew a 7 buck can of turpentine could restore your health? My Diamond G just arrived in today's mail. Switching to that for internal.

Thanks all very much.

You are right, Gavin.

I have found gum turpentine in NZ and we make our own emulsions for turpentine bath.

No, taking shower with a mixture of soap and few drops of gum turpentine is not the same as taking a turpentine bath.

The volume of water in a bath works as vacuum cleaner helping to clean the body through your skin. After having a turpentine bath you must have a rest about 1 hour in warm bed. This is a procedure protocol.

You must use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes."

I can't have a bath where I live because everyone prefers showers in hot tropical countries like the Philippines. So I don't have a bath in my house.

So how I do it is to have a shower and just mix some drops of turps in with the soap in my hands and then wash my body down like that. The turps becomes emulsified by the soap into tiny droplets when you do this and it mixes in more thoroughly with the water and soap so it spreads better over the skin.

But just pouring a shot glass into a bath is also not really recommended. Better to add ordinary pine oil bubble bath into the bath first -- or add some soap to the bath water -- that will emulsify the turps into tiny droplets that will actually help to spread the turps around in the bathwater more thoroughly.

If you don't use the soap, the turps just tends to sit and tends to concentrate on the top of the water anyway because it is so insoluble in water. So it doesn't really spread down into the bath water where you want it to be.

In older times, the doctors regularly advised turpentine/water enemas. But they would always advise that you mix the turps and water with a little bit of soap because it helps to emulsify and spread the turps into the water as tiny droplets, making the enema much more effective. Same principle for taking a turps bath.

You had this reaction because of the incorrect way of using turpentine for bath. It is not soluble in water so you must use a special emulsion in a gum turpentine base.

Also it it a special procedure not just laying in water with turpentine.

This is a link which may be useful.

http://thebasisof.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/turpentine-baths.html

Re: Turpentine bath. How did things go?

Robyn, I've been experimenting with Papaya Leaf Tea. If the Paw Paw you are talking about is Papaya, than the Leaf Tea won't have the sweetness in it.

Bill and Caladesi, you are lucky if you can take it. I reduced it to 1 drop but the pain is still far too great. I would just end this 21 yrs of severe suffering. Bill suggested I have paw paw with each meal. I have hcl and enzymes but isn't paw paw a bit sweet? if I'm trying to get rid of candida.

Hi Caladesi...I am very happy for you that the turps protocol is working so well. And yes, turps was widely used internally in the old days.

Although both you and your mother are having candida issues, I would also ask you to consider two other problems that you both might have whose symptoms are very similar to candida symptoms -- especially symptoms like brain fog , lethargy, low energy, depression etc.

First, hypothyroid or low thyroid was also an issue for me when I had candida. See the many symptoms for hypothyroid here. Just taking the Iodine Protocol(with companion nutrients) resolved that one very fast for me. So perhaps it's advisable for both you and your mother to get a thyroid test. Do not use the TSH/T4 test which your doctor will probably recommend because it is very inaccurate. Ask him for the Free T3/Free T4 test instead, much more accurate. Also, if you or your mother are low thyroid, do not use the synthetic thyroid drugs that the doctor may recommend. Use the Iodine Protocol. I didn't bother with the thyroid test. I just took the Iodine protocol and I've been on it ever since.

Methylation problems are the other issue. If you are under- or over-methylated this can cause problems with your neurotransmitters(seratonin, dopamine, norepeniphrine and epeniphrine levels), immune and detox systems. This will have consequent and distinct ill-effects on your mood and your body's detox and immune systems.

Lack of methyl groups in the body(under methylation) is associated with seasonal allergies, high blood histamine levels, obsessive compulsive behaviour, addictive tendencies etc.

Over-methylation(excessive methyl donors n the body) symptoms can be associated with: anxious behaviour, low blood histamines, no seasonal allergies, panic attacks, food/chemical sensitivites etc.

See the full symptom lists here:

http://carriagehousemedicine.com/services/ease-anxiety-depression/

Methylation problems arise because of lack of specific vitamin and mineral nutrients causing lack of enzymes activity in the Methylation Cycle at different critical points in the cycle. These cause serious non-functioning blockages in the Methylation Cycle itself.

Fixing these methylation cycle blocks or breaks will therefore benefit both your CFS and Candida problems.

Here is a methylation protocol for people with CFS which should benefit both your CFS/Candida conditions:

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/CFS_-_The_Methylation_Cycle

You should also be able to buy all the supplements necessary to re-adjust and re-balance your methylation cycle from here.

It's also well known that many vegans lack proper methylators like Vitamin B12 because there is usually a deficiency of B12 in vegan diets. Zinc is another one that is lacking in vegan diets which can lead to high copper levels in the body. Magnesium is another one. That's why getting a hair analysis might also be beneficial for you. A hair analysis will also tell you all the heavy metals you have in your body and will also tell you what vitamins/minerals are missing in your diet as well.

Other nutrients that should help your mother's heart problem are regular daily dosages of Acetyl-l-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, D-Ribose, Magnesium, and Selenium.

Bill, I have been using the turpentine for only 1.5 weeks and it is great for the candida, I even saw white rope like fungus pass the day after my first turp dose. No herxing either. I am on a vegan high raw diet, but eat fruit (juciy not sweet fruits like bananas and dates) with some cooked low fat vegan for dinner. It's what I can sustain. My main concern now is helping my 75 year old mom onto the turp for her candida/allergies, etc. She is currently taking Atenolol 25mg which is a beta blocker for irregular heart beat. Even though she remembers turp sugar being around her house as a kid and her grand dad using it, she is terrified to swallow it, which I understand!! I was too and am still having a hard time getting past the gasoline like taste, but it does work better than anything I've ever tried, so I am on it 2x week for now. I want to see if I can work up to more but just need to take it slow as I have had CFS for 8 years and am sick and tired of being sick and tired. God bless you for your help!

Hi Rachael...In order for Kerosene to be effective you must use it in the right way. I'm working with an autism group at the moment. All the autistic children are infected with candida as well as parasites. I know this because they must post pictures of their stools every day on this site. Their stools always show parasites as well as biofilms coming out of the children's intestines.

The way to use kerosene or turpentine is to take one teaspoon mixed together with at least one tablespoon of castor oil. You can add molasses too for a better taste if you like. The purpose of the castor oil is to help spread the turpentine throughout the intestines more thoroughly -- don't forget that the intestines is 28 ft long so the kerosene has to be used efficiently.

If you are just supplementing kerosene on its own with water outside mealtimes, then the kerosene will be rapidly absorbed into the blood from the stomach -- with not much kerosene left to go into the intestines to fight the candida and remove biofilms there. Taking kerosene with water is OK for blood born diseases but not OK for candida -- because the throne and fortress of candida is always in the intestines which has the biofilms.

So take the kerosene mixed with castor oil and take this at mealtime just before you eat. That will ensure that the majority of the kerosene goes where it should -- into the intestines to both kill the candida and remove the biofilms as well.

Re: Kerosene for Candida. I just started the kerosine therapy and I haven't seen any difference, although it's just the third day. Is anyone doing it right now? Lets get your situation report.

Kerosine for internal use must be purified. In Russia people use Todicamp (kerosine with green hull walnut) but you have to be very careful when choosing manufacturer. The best one comes from the inventor's son Andrey Todica.

It is really good to see that people are interested in turpentine bath. It is a really good remedy which you can use in many cases.

But you must use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes.

Hi Lorik...If you have serious systemic candida and other pathogenic infections in your body and if you take turpentine for the first time, you will usually always get a Herx reaction which is caused by heavy die-off of pathogens with release of poisons.

Turpentine also removes biofilms with consequent large release of stored heavy metals into the body also causing other strange symptoms. When candida in particular is killed in large numbers by the turps, there is an even heavier release of candida poisons into the body. So, for a little while, you will feel worse -- with heart palpitations, higher BP and other strange symptoms, until your body has had time to clear these poisons from the body.

So the least you should do is to incorporate additional protocols like molybdenum to neutralize the candida poisons as well as use chlorella or kelp or spirulina to help detox and transport the heavy metals out of you body safely.

I don't really think that you will get very far in you candida remedy if you just use candida-kill remedies on their own. Not enough. You will need to do much more than that and use a much wider and more focused protocol to cure serious systemic candida issues which is why I always favour a multi-protocol approach. My full anti-candida protocol is shown about a quarter way down on this EC page:

https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/candida-diet-protocol.html

The strategy I use against candida is shown here:

Anti-Candida and Anti-Pathogen Protocols

Anti-Biofilm Protocols

Alkalizing Protocols

Essential Detox Protocols

Liver Support Protocols(Liver, Kidney and Blood Support)

Vitamin and Mineral Support (Immune System Support)

The Health Defence Diet

I have candida & parasite problems. Instead of starting at 1/4 tsp of turp could I start at an amount of DROPS & take it each day? Or is twice a week the only recommendation? Thank you for this site.

I've tried turp before, taking only about 7 drops each day. It seemed my heart rate and blood pressure would go crazy! Any ideas on that? Thank you

Mary from Saskatchewan -- hi Mary! This is also a follow up on my experimentation. Quite frankly, it made no difference in the end. However, it is better to experiment than to be experimented on. My next course of action is to drink 1/8 tsp borax in 1 l water daily, spread over the day.

MMS had worked very well, using it three times in succession in one session. But as with Borax the skin takes a beating. Around the eyes like thin paper! I did always the moisturizing but still, if I did not use the urine therapy, my skin would be almost ruined, having a very fair complexion.

Next I will use neem inside and out as it raises the immune system and has a considerable fame in Ayurveda. With it I will alkalize. That will be for about 12 weeks. If that does not do , there is Bill's suggestion to use Ted's remedy for morgellons.

Originally I contracted this by using someone else's pillow ten years back. I was more than busy with animal rescue and I observed the effects were creeping up eventually. If it can be remedied, time will tell. After using MMS with very good results, they did indeed come back! At any time I use my own saliver which has been very successful for some people. This is why I think urine therapy, the blue print of your body, will be a workable option. I am using it daily on a wash cloth, fresh, and it has a wonderful effect on the skin. Because I am vegan, it is quite pleasant. Those buggers had caused a red passage way on my cheekbone, that is why I thought it was time to try turpentine. It was not worth it.

I did not read of the lady who used kerosene - can you fill me in on this? I could not find it here. I wish you well in your endeavours. Actually, one night I stayed up and copied all the success posts for my perusal. Regards, Om

Om from Hope Bc Canada: Hey thanks for the reply Om! I use turpentine as well.

I have the mites too and also did the turpentine thing even my hair. I didn't get rid of them however. Glsd you had such a positive experience. besides the nasty hospital stay I mean. But you lowered the mites load on your body.

I took turpentine, this am and am going to start MMS in a few hours to keep them separate. I am now coated in neem mineral oil and borax mix, with an undercoat of 90 % alcohol including flushing my nose and filling each ear for 15 minutes. Never done so much laundry in my life. I think the neem is going to be the one that tips the tide as it stops them from reproducing.

Did you read the post of the woman who sprayed and left on Kerosene and had wonderful results? Keep you posts going I like to read your thoughts! Mary

Hi Bill, again many thanks for your kindness in providing valuable info. It may well be that I may have them internally, too, do you think that turpentine w. BSM three times a week would deal with that?

I had planned to use neem caps. with basil caps for my sugar which may deal with the problem. But after three months' usage I would have to use something else as neem is very astringent and causes weight loss. I will look into all your suggestions. I was familiar with Ted's info. Actually I can't wait for the time when there will be public confessions - it is going to happen in the near future.

Meanwhile thanks again - where can I buy Lugol's ? All the best, Om

Hi Om...I'm in the same situation as you -- no-one takes baths in the Philippines, its always showers. Some more suggestions for you.

If you regard your mite problem as just topical and not internal, then you can try the following remedies:

* Use the topical remedy that Ted uses for Lyme/Morgellon's Disease shown here on EC. His remedy is also geared to kill a wide range of pathogens including insects, worms, fungus, bacteria, viruses, parasites etc. I would simply use this hydrogen peroxide/borax remedy topically after showering, applying it to all your mite infected areas(including hair and scalp) and leave it to dry and soak in properly without washing it off. Later, after an hour or two, you can wash it off. It might also be advised to hydrate the skin afterwards using aloe vera oil or coconut oil.

Ted has also used a stronger modified form of this remedy in the past to get rid of his more serious Morgellon's problem(also a tick problem) when he was working in America -- using 2% - 3% DMSO(Dimethylsulfoxide), 5% borax in a 3% Hydrogen Peroxide solution as a topical remedy. He also suggested using neem. See this link. This creates sodium perborate in solution which is carried into the sub-epidermal regions by DMSO to more effectively kill all the mites and pathogens lurking deep inside the skin. This remedy is very efficient and doesn't just act on top of the skin but works its magic deeper in the sub-epidermal layers to kill the mites and larva there as well.

My own favourite all-round topical remedy, which might also help you, is to simply apply DMSO mixed with a few drops of lugols iodine to the offending areas. Works on the same principals as Ted's Morgellon's remedy(iodine is carried deep into the skin by the DMSO). I now use a 50-50 mix of DMSO with lugols iodine but I would not advise other people to try this because some people might get a reaction in the thyroid caused by lack of certain anti-oxidants in their diet. For more on this aspect see here and here.

* For your nasal problems which are most likely a fungal/bacterial problem, I would recommend the product shown here. I know this product works well because my daughter-in-law uses it for her rhinitis, allergy and blocked nose problems and it works like magic. It is an all herbal nasal product made in an organic way without the use of chemicals, steroids, anti-histamines etc. Another option is just to regularly rinse your nose using a neti pot, water and sea salt. Or you can use a dilute solution of lugols iodine with a dropper which will also help to kill pathogens and clear the nose.

If none of the above remedies work for you or you get some improvement but you cannot fully cure your own mite problem with topical remedies alone then, logically, there must be an internal problem in association with the mite problem.

* Take Ted's borax water remedy as shown on EC. Borax acts to dry up and kill the mites from the inside. Add 1/8 tspn borax to a liter of water and drink a liter a day using this remedy on a five days on, two days off cycle like that.

* One of the better remedies against Lyme(and mites) is Dr Lee Cowden's internal all-herbal remedy which is fully described here with all nutrients, dosages and sourcing of ingredients used in his protocol:

Dr Cowden's Lyme Cure

Also remember that you will have to disinfect bedding, furniture and clothes to be absolutely sure of mite riddance. Wash all you clothes with borax. Spray a mite disinfectant on bedding and furniture or you can simply sprinkle and use diatomacious earth just as well to kill them in the house.

Do not use turpentine gum oil in the bath! It's a nerve existed and has batch non stop tingle on wet skin, much like tea tree oil but twice as so.

Hi Mama to Many from Tennessee,

Nice to her from you. I had a heart break but life has to go on. Keep in touch. I like to read your contributions. Fond regards, Om

Bill,

Thanks for your remarks. Trouble is when I bought this house, I had no idea how useless a "water saving" bath tub is. It is just good for showers. I will use your information and hope to get somewhere with the mite problem. I am now going to use neem to improve the immune system as well as alkalizing. Those buggers are in my eye sockets and ears/nose. I thought also of using a mister with colloidal silver for the face. If you have comment or suggestions I would appreciate those. Namaste Om

Hi Om...I've also been experimenting with gum turpentine. I'm still using turp drops daily for oral hygiene. I tend to always mix a few drops of gum turps with other oils such as coconut oil or castor oil if I use it on externally on the skin. And I'm still supplementing the turpentine(1 tspn) + CO(1 tspn) + honey/molasses(1 tspn) once or twice a week. It's definitely powerful stuff.

I was also thinking that a much easier way to take a turpentine bath would be to have a pine bubble bath and simply add one or two whisky shot glasses of gum turpentine to the water as well. The pleasant pine oil soap in the water would make the turps smell unnoticeable and would also function to more efficiently emulsify the turps into tiny droplets for better distribution in the bath water. Then all you need to do is clean yourself and just relax in the hot bath for about 20 mins in order to allow the turpentine to act and do its magic on the body.

Dear Om,

Hi! What an adventure with turpentine! You certainly kept your sense of humor.

I haven't seen posts from you in a while and am happy to see your story here today. Thanks for sharing!

~Mama to Many~

Mary, sorry for late reply: the nurses who ran the kindergarten would treat us with the stuff on sugar cube whenever they saw we were developing a cold.

Let me share with you good people my adventure with turp a coupe of days ago. It has a good outcome though. My mite problem in my face, scalp and eyes after tedious treatments would not abate but become worse. So, after much subduing my chicken out feelings I stripped and dipping my face cloth into the turp proceeded to cover myself from top to bottom as per a link on line somewhere suggested from european sources. Midway, the stuff started to spread by itself a good deal which reminded me of oil spills in the ocean with an ominous feeling that I was in for an unknown experience of an intimidating nature. By the time I had reached the top I stated burning with all my skin vibrating violently, the turp wandering into mouth and eyes so I could not see. The fumes were overwhelming, reaching lungs and brain. I was mortified, felt like swooning off and on, ran to open the window and showering with cold water without stopping the vibrating and burning effects which were very strong. I grabbed a blanket and finally thought it best to call the ambulance which arrived with two very helpful men who took some initial tesst which turned out o.k. I only told them I had inhaled turp from an open container, not more because I do not lie. At the hospital all tests turned fine except they wanted me to shower because of the smell but the nurses forgot to give me soap and towels but that is another story.

The ambulance men said I was sensitive to turp odour and it should not have any repercussions. After some useless hours freezing in a flimsy gown I got dressed not having got the promised soup as I was weak from not eating for hours, I took a taxi home.

About two days later please note the outcome: My skin is good, the mites not noted again except I have to use application in the nose with tee tree oil. No itchy head. A long standing fungal infection that resisted all attempts to clear it: Gone! My eyes are clear, so is my brain, in fact better, and my intermittent cough gone which makes me think if I ever had predators in my lungs, they are gone.

I had taken before oral turp w sugar without trouble and will do so again. I m having trouble with finding the right turp even though I questioned the manufacturer, their product saying"pure" and "bio option". May be I will end up finding it eventually.

Please take this account for your entertainment only. Regards, Om

From my experience, the negative effects are mostly die-off from herx effets and chage significantly with time. I am 10 months in with avg-. 14+ net grams of VitC in ascorpbic acid/soy lecithin /water mix 40/60/1000 grams aa/lec/water - I take a water bottle full to work each day, and drink it out of the fridge while at home.

My cleansing program is augmented by essential oils - oregano/lavendar/eucolyptus and occasional tbsp of turpentine.

The symptomas continue to change with time. And last week it was open sores with yellow scabs on my eyel lids as stuff leaches from the eye area. I suspect I had systemic candida and a healthy latent herpes, but the full bloom of crap comes out. For a few days last August, my TB Scrub mark on my right shoulder bloomed, then receded, and that must go back to 3rd grade or so in 1967....

My sense of urgency for finding a solution came from early 50's return to long distance sports, aqnd a resultant problem with recurrring attacks of stuff after 5 hours of biking coupled with triathalon gels (high sugar intake) and occasional wierd stuff like a salad triggering 3 days of skin hives. Having suffered off and on from eczema all my life, but ditchig the cortizone in my 20's, and coping well 30-48 ba avoiding certain foods, my decline seemed rto come from travellig in Africa in 2010 - or more precisely the batch of shorts that I had to get. Eversince - a sence of fatigue, exhaustion, one triathlon I did I could hardly keep my head lifted up on the vbike from muscle aoureness and fatigue- as if my body was just saturated with lactic acid.

Fancy Nutritrionists and other allergist tests found nothing conclusive; the head of dermatology told me that they just don't know, but only know how to suppress the symtoms so peopole can cope.

SO I said to myself, after seeing the speel on High Dose VIt C and reearching Dr Klemmmer etc, that I would do vit C high dose for a while, which has now become a commitment for one year----- Inititially I lost my voice for 2 weeks and watched crap climb out my throat, 2 months in it was the jaw dental area, and for months now it seems to be a never ending story with the CSF zone (brain salid). Further desperation leads to new things..... with TURP taken orally, oe of the furst times, I had a sensation of a school of stuff rapidly migrating down my inner left crotch ind ito my thigh... alll in the sub skin fat tissue..... Other things are seemingly residual continuation of stuff leacing out of the joint areas (biofilms in the joints) and now with turpentine the sensation that nerve ends come alive with crawlies when I antagonize the system with lavendar oil or turp taken orally or under the tongue....

All col stuff...... and so far my health has no serious problems from attacking the pasasitick world from within..... force the demons out I presume is better than driving them deep with superficial symptom supression.

Keep on keepin on. Fight the fight and grow stronger. I always have to go back and remind myself that in the beginning the status quo was no longer surcivable and I had to do something. Today I sleep better and have a whole slew of tools to find relief ( hot salt baths, hot showers, topical coconut oil with oregano oil. topical turpentine on crazy itch symtpms works like a charm)

Go for it. After months of severe plaque head psoriasis, my head scratching continues, but the plaque is completely gone. I think my one year of cleaning 54 years of life out of the system will indeed pay off.

Better But With Side Effects

I've tried turpentine bath 2x a week for 2 weeks now. It has good and not so good result for me. Yes, there was a tingly feeling on the inner thigh area every time I bathe, but it's not a biggy. Definitely, alleviates my lower back pain and relaxes my whole body, no doubt. Feeling very clean and removes all the crap out of my skin. Will continue doing it...

However, every time I bathe, after a couple of hours, I got flaky scalp. Not sure if it's too strong for the scalp or my head develops the flakes/dandruff fighting the bacteria/crap. Well, I was hoping that turps bath will heal my dandruff issue instead of getting more… Any other thoughts from people who has same issue? Thanks Bill for this helpful information.

Hi Josh1875...

A burning sensation when peeing indicates acid blood. Turpentine also acts as a diuretic -- it clears excess water (and minerals) from the blood. I never have a burning sensation when peeing after I take Turpentine. So the answer to this problem is simply to alkalize the blood by taking either the sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) with water remedy or by taking the ACV, bicarbonate and water remedy as shown here on EC. This should help to reduce the burning.

Being unable to pee is also indicative of either an infection in the bladder or prostatitis so I would get your bladder checked to be safe. Nutrients that will help with bladder infections are cranberry juice and/or D-Mannose. Larger dose Lugol's iodine (at least 8 drops or 50 mgs a day in split doses) will help both against bladder infections and help against prostatitis.

Research evidence has shown that Iodine prevents and reduces cysts in fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroid, and prostate cyst formation (prostatitis). See this research.

I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why every time I try to take a teaspoon of turp mixed with honey or oil I start to get a burning sensation when I go to pee and feel like I need to go pee and can.t go for hours; sometimes it is unbearable

Hi Abdi...I forgot to mention diet. Avoid the following foods: sugar, wheat, dairy products, yeast products and avoid medicines like anti-depressants, painkillers, steroids and all antibiotics. All these things feed or encourage the spread of pathogens in the body -- especially candida -- and avoiding them will also help to reduce allergies.

Hi Abdi...Since your son is 17 y o then he should take adult dosages. The Turpentine protocol is quite simple and involves combining the following:

Castor Oil -- Dose range 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon.

Turpentine -- 1 teaspoon of pure gum spirit turpentine.

Add for taste -- one teaspoon of Molasses or Honey.

Start with small dosages of turpentine -- best to start with drop dosages of your choice or start him with 1/4 tspn and slowly work up to the full 1 tspn dose. Take turpentine just before meals. Start you son taking turps just twice a week then work towards giving him turps on a one day on, one day off protocol. Take plenty of breaks from this protocol because this regimen kills a large range of pathogens including parasites, candida, bacteria, viruses, mycoplasma etc. So he will probably get significant die-off(Herx) and detox reactions. Adjust the dosage accordingly to reduce the stress.

You can buy pure gum spirit turpentine at Walmart or Home Depot and other sellers. Brands of turpentine that you can buy and use in the protocol:

Diamond G Forest Products -- Organic Turpentine

Klean Strip Turpentine 1 -- Walmart or Home Depot

KleanStrip 1-K Kerosene -- Walmart or Home Depot

Other nutrients that your son should take are Lugols Iodine, Borax Water and Alkalizing -- You can find all descriptions and dosages for these protocols on EC or in my book on candida. Other necessary and essential protocols are described in this document and, in greater detail, in my book:

Adjunct Nutrients to Help Minimize Detox and Herx Reactions and to Help Proper Brain Development and Healing (wrt Learning, Social and Behavioural Problems)

You can also add the Hulda Clark Parasite Protocol(Google it) to this regimen which would also benefit your son.

Lastly, it would also greatly help your son if he took enemas regularly at least two or three times a week. Parasites and pathogens can hide safely in the lower intestines because most nutrients that you take by mouth will be completely absorbed or expended by the time they reach the lower intestines(the intestines is 28 ft long). This is why you should incorporate enemas into his regimen.

Hi Bill, thanks for your good work for humanity. I have come to know turpentine recently after I bought and read your book Candida killing so sweetly. I have an autistic kid who is 17 years old. can you please let me know the turpentine protocol for autism. Thanks

Om, how often did you receive the turpentine when you were in kindergarten? Thanks

Has anyone heard of or tired a turpentine enema? I have not tried one. I am just very curious as I read about it in one of Bill's citations of Turpentine uses in the early part of the century. They used it for bad constipation.