Turpentine Health Benefits: Candida, Parasites, Fungus & Detox Support

I'm new to this site (and turpentine) and I decided to join because this looks like a good place for valid information regarding turpentine usage. I know that turpentine is xenobiotic and I am on a couple of Rx meds. Does anyone know what the timing/spacing should be?

I have lyme and co-infections and would like to know if anyone is using turpentine for the same reason, and if successes/failures can be shared.

I appreciate any input.

Depending on the severity of your case (usually severity coincides w/ age) will determine how bad the "reactions" and how much time it takes to clear the bad stuff.

Here is a link to the detox page for more info https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/detoxification.html

For starters I highly recommend antioxidant nutrition (a deficiency of which causes many types of chronic and inflammatory conditions), Dr Christopher's "Red Clover Combination" herb caps, Epsom Salts/Baking Soda/Borax whole body hot baths, Iodine, and ACV. Detox Foot Spas & Patches are great for eliminating heavy metals and zenobiotics as well as parasites.

I first heard of turpentine being used as med. when I was very young from my grandparents and then again about 8-10 yrs ago from a gentleman in his mid 70's. My children had gotten head lice while in primary school and he told me I should give them a dose because it would get rid of anything. Of course I didn't because I thought it was poisonous. Seems his family used it as he was growing up.

If anyone knows why the pain in my knee and hip have gotten worse I would love to hear or any suggestions regarding the arthritis. I also have considered the oxygen therapy as well. The thought of drinking water that tastes like bleach doesn't appeal to me but if it helps the arthritis that would be worth it.

Thank you so much for your detailed explanations. That is very helpful!

I also appreciate the information about Bovine Colostrum. I will have to learn more about that!

Thanks again!

~Mama to Many~

The recipe to make DHA with lugol's, ascorbic acid and baking soda - would that be an appropriate way to get a more easily absorbed form of vitamin C for general immune boosting? (Like for when you are sick with a cold?)

If you require more absorbable vitamin c then, yes, taking it with LI will increase the absorption of vitamin c(as dehydroascorbic acid) into the body.

To begin to answer this question I've come to the belief that Vitamin C, Lugols Iodine and Sea Salt are all critical for the immune system because all these nutrients actually constitute the main ammunition to help the neutrophils engulf and destroy pathogens for the immune system. The phagocytes and neutrophils of the immune system actively destroy all pathogens -- viruses, bacteria, fungi etc -- by spraying out hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid and hypoiodous acid over the engulfed pathogen which immediately destroys these pathogens who have no defence and cannot possibly adjust to these substances because their destructive action is so quick. Then they are engulfed and digested by the phagocytes for later excretion via the liver.

From my own research, vitamin c is indeed vital to the immune system and is stored onboard the phagocyte, later to be converted into hydrogen peroxide. Similarly, sea salt or chlorides are absorbed and stored by the phagocyte to later be converted by an enzyme(myeloperoxidase) together with the hydrogen peroxide(from vitamin c) to create the hypochlorous acid that is sprayed out over the pathogen to kill it. Exactly the same process happens when the iodide stored in the phagocyte is later converted and used as hypoiodous acid to kill all manner of pathogens. What's more, I've read research where they confirmed that the hypoiodous acid form was seven times stronger at killing pathogens than the hypochlorous acid form.

It should also be of interest, with everyone's somewhat one-sided fascination and praise of just anti-oxidants, that hydrogen peroxide, hypochlorous acid and hypoiodous acid are all oxidants that use their unique free-radical action to kill pathogens in the human body at the appropriate time. The fascinating thing that occurs to me is that the human body critically needs the correct balance of both oxidants(free-radicals) and anti-oxidants in the body to have a healthy and strong immune system. Another important outcome from this is that it appears to be the habit of the normal human body to store useful oxidants as anti-oxidants. And when these dangerous free-radical oxidants are sprayed outside the phagocyte to kill pathogens and, after completion of this task, then other enzymes in the blood such as catalase or SOD will act to safely mop up and remove these dangerous excess free-radicals from the blood which, if left to accumulate unchecked, would further act to cause host cell damage in the human body.

My conclusions are that both oxidants and antioxidants are essential and critical for the human body to be healthy with a strong immune system. I take sea salt, vitamin c and larger dose LI every day. This is also perhaps why I have caught no infectious disease like a cold or flu or anything within the last 9 years. And no autoimmune problems yet either even though I'm a fairly old geezer. All I'm doing here is simply keeping my immune system ammo up to scratch and this has worked quite well for me as a sort of ongoing preventative protocol.

Also, would this "count" towards your iodine and vitamin C needs for those using the Iodine protocol for those using the Iodine protocol for thyroid?

Taking the iodine with Vitamin C certainly will count towards more iodide storage in the thyroid and body. But, getting deeper into it, the body really needs the triiodide, iodide and molecular iodide forms. SSKI is useful as iodide for the thyroid but it does not have the molecular iodine or triiodide forms. Nascent Iodine(NI) is also useful because it contains just triiodide form. But triiodide will not detox heavy metals or halides(bromine and fluorine) out of the body. NI is touted as being the easiest iodine form for absorption in the body. Not true. For instance the female breast can only accept and store the molecular iodine form. This is why I prefer the LI form of iodine -- it's just the best and most complete form of iodine out there.

Finally, is the Lugol's you use for this the 5% version?

Yes I always use 5% LI for my own protocols. For all dosages that I give out you should be using 5% LI. This seems to confuse people. For instance if, say, you are using 2% LI and take 8 drops a day then that is not the dose I recommend -- too low because 8 drops of 5% LI is equivalent to 20 drops of 2% LI. Another way of looking at this is that 5% LI contains 50 mgs iodine/iodide whereas 8 drops of 2% LI contains only 20 mgs iodine/iodide. See the LI mgs to drop conversion chart here.

I take the equivalent of 8 drops a day of 5% (still finishing up my 2% bottle) and am wondering if I made and took the DHA if I would still want to take more iodine, or if at that point, it would be overkill.

Taking LI with just water or with vitamin c is really your choice depending on what problem you are addressing. I use the vitamin c with LI to increase the negative conductivity of the cells in my body which is so good for overall health. But when you take LI with vitamin c you are essentially taking ascorbic acid, DHA and just the iodide form. This is why I always take the LI form with water -- this ensures that I get the triiodide, iodide and molecular iodine forms that are all so beneficial for the body.

Some more information for you which will immeasurably help anybody's immune system. The nutrient is called bovine colostrum. In 1957 a French virologist name Albert Sabin invented the first oral polio vaccine which he synthesized and made from bovine colostrum. He also loudly proclaimed that all young children should take colostrum every day. Dairy farmers have known about the beneficial effects of colostrum for centuries.

I've recently been reading where colostrum will cure all forms of allergies as well as actively cure infectious and autoimmune diseases. See the evidence and read why here.

Benefits of Colostrum

I've also been reading where people have been cured of CFS, Fibro, MS, gut problems and there was one gent who had serious candida issues who only drank one gallon of the liquid colostrum straight from the cow which cured him completely of candida and all his allergies problems (including allergies to milk and wheat) within two weeks. All he did was to slowly drink one gallon of bovine colostrum until it was gone.

Some more research on the effects of Immune Milk(more pathogen-specific than colostrum) against a host of bacterial, fungal and viral diseases:

Immune Milk Facts

So it seems as if colostrum is a nutrient that acts as a completely safe multi-vaccine for kids and grown-ups alike. It seems to be a very fast way to reset, retrain and stregthen the immune system. Bovine Colostrum contains bovine anti-bodies against all the common diseases in our environment like Candida, Shigella, H Pylori, Staph, Strep, Epstein Barr, HSV, E. Coli etc. that get passed like blueprints from the mother cow directly to the child or adult to help strengthen the immune system by leaps and bounds. So if a child or adult is continually sick with a weak immune system with lots of allergies or gut problems then colostrum will definitely provide lasting benefit.

The best colostrum seems to come from New Zealand where all cows are grass fed without being force-fed antibiotics, steroids, unnatural feeds etc.

I only thought to mention colostrum because I am well aware that you worry about your own kids health and well being(especially in the winter season).

Thanks for taking time to post this fascinating information! I have a couple of questions if you do not mind.

The recipe to make DHA with lugol's, ascorbic acid and baking soda - would that be an appropriate way to get a more easily absorbed form of vitamin C for general immune boosting? (Like for when you are sick with a cold?)

Also, would this "count" towards your iodine and vitamin C needs for those using the Iodine protocol for thyroid?

Finally, is the Lugol's you use for this the 5% version?

I take the equivalent of 8 drops a day of 5% (still finishing up my 2% bottle) and am wondering if I made and took the DHA if I would still want to take more iodine, or if at that point, it would be overkill.

Thanks so much!

~Mama to Many~

Other more efficient ways of supplementing vitamin are as follows:

* By IV as ascorbate
* Lyphosomal Vitamin C
* Vitamin C(as ascorbate) + DMSO used transdermaly
* Oral or transdermal dehydroascorbic acid(DHA)

Most people already know all about taking the the oral, IV and Lyphosomal forms of vitamin c. But taking it as DHA is interesting. The DHA form, when taken orally, is absorbed from the gut into the blood much more efficiently and quickly than with the ordinary oral form. DHA is also easily absorbed into the cells because it is a glucose mimic. It takes a different pathway from the gut into the blood and this is called the GLUT-1 pathway. The body thinks the DHA is glucose and will therefore absorb much larger amounts of DHA more easily into the blood and cells. And if you starve your body of glucose -- as in IPT therapy -- then this will sensitize the GLUT-1 receptors more which will then absorb even higher amounts of DHA into the cells. Another unique advantage of DHA is that it is easily absorbed across the blood/brain and blood/bone barriers whereas this is not the case for ordinary vitamin c. The only problem with the DHA form is that it seems to be more expensive than the ordinary oral vitamin c form.

If you want a cheap and cheerful way to orally supplement DHA then, as Ted from Bangkok recommends, all you need is lugols iodine, Baking Soda(Arm & Hammer is fine to use), Ascorbic acid and a glass of water. First add 1/4 tspn of ascorbic acid(1 gram) to the water. Then add 6 drops of LI. You will notice that the iodine in the water turns from brown to clear and that's because the ascorbic acid is oxidized and converted to DHA while the molecular iodine is reduced to clear iodide. The last thing you add is the baking soda -- add this until the fizzing stops. Now you have an oral solution of sodium ascorbate + iodide + DHA in ascorbate form. Cheaper, convenient and effective.

Another useful way to take vitamin c(as ascorbate) is transdermally using DMSO and water(70% DMSO + 30% water by volume). To this ascorbate/DMSO mixture just add 6 drops of iodine. This creates some DHA in the mix. Therefore, when you paint your skin with this mixture, the DMSO will efficiently carry about 80% of the Vit C + DHA + iodide directly into the blood. This simple transdermal method also has the other advantage of not causing any problems or ructions in the gut because you're not taking it orally.

Concerning candida and detox I would take something like Vitamin C, Sodium Thiosulfate or EDTA for detoxing the blood and organs but I would also make sure to take chlorella for purely intestinal detox. Dr William Kelly verified in his writings that chlorella contains large molecules called alginates. These large molecules, after they bind to heavy metals in the gut, cannot be absorbed or redistributed into the blood from the colon because alginate is such a huge molecule -- that's why alginates can only remove heavy metals in the gut. With the other forms -- Vitamin C, Sodium Thiosulfate etc that act in the blood -- their will always be some redistribution of heavy metals in the body. So that's one very good reason to use chlorella for gut detox -- especially when you have candida because candida biofilms in the gut contain such high amounts of heavy metals. So when you destroy alot of candida biofilms using turpentine then you must take the chlorella 1/2 hr to 1 hr after the turps to mop up and neutralize all the heavy metals released from biofilm destruction. if you don't mop up these heavy metals in the gut promptly and appropriately then they will just get absorbed into the blood via the colon to cause all manner of physical, mental and other symptoms and problems.

I think I used to much turpentine this time as I did a week ago as both times, on the day that I had multiple bowel movements, afterward, I felt drunk, probably from turpentine reaching the brain. Though never have I taken more than one teaspoon with three sugar cubes. Also, on those days that I had multiple bowel movements, I drank a huge amount of water after taking the turpentine. I really wanted to give it an easy exit opportunity and I have to wonder if this is why on those days I had so many bowel movements versus the first day's dose, though it could just be a matter of cumulative days/doses. Also, I wonder if all the water helped the turpentine travel through my bloodstream to my brain to produce the drunk feeling.

Anyway, I'll be waiting again to let it get out of my system, and then I'll use a smaller 1/2 teaspoon dose with a lot of water after.

I plan to do it again exactly in one week except now I will do her normal 2 doses a week plan. My leaky gut symptoms are nearly gone and my MSG sensitivity is drastically improved. You MUST purchase 100% pure gum spirits of Turpentine otherwise some other deadly chemicals could be in there and Turpentine is dangerous enough on it's own. I bought mine from Home Depot, though a gal told me someplace in Georgia has the best stuff you can buy, maybe from the place already mentioned.

My symptoms overall were Anxiety, Brain fog, facial cramping, restless leg, low energy, trouble urinating, slouching, intestinal ache/burn, massive carb cravings, etc.

Here is what Ted from Bangkok has to say about curing constipation:

"The bowel issue is one of the most complex ones, but prebiotics have more effects on beneficial bacteria than the probiotics. The one thing that will help establish these is gum arabic, 4 grams blender mixed with 250 cc of water or hot water, until all gum arabic is dissolved.

Baking soda is the common remedy to relieve it. It also is found that getting enough water relieves constipation, especially by drinking enough water during the morning hours. The bowel movement requires basically hydraulic pressure to get the stools out and this is why having sufficient liquids is necessary. The slippage is also necessary along the intestinal tract such as alkalization, having sufficient potassium is the most common problem I have seen in people with constipation. As if there is this fear against the use of potassium. For people with normal kidneys this is no problem. Having the potassium requires to take regular over a month, if the remedy requires 1/2 teaspoon taken only at night, however if a person has low blood pressure, then must always be taking with sea salt, at least 1/4 teaspoon once or twice a day to keep the sodium and potassium balance. The antidote for too much potassium is simple, take 1/2 teaspoon of sea salt if potassium is causing problem, and the side effects will be relieved in 5 minutes. In fact the effects of any natural treatment for most disorders takes generally 5 minutes, such as heart problems, muscle pain, headaches, etc to be relieved except chronic constipation. I have seen a 19 year old girl with constipation taking potassium citrate take up to 1 teaspoon after meals three times a day to get her potassium to normal to cure her constipation. I have seen ICU patients take 1/2 teaspoon every hour throughout 24 hours to get?her blood potassium to normal. So potassium is somewhat as big a deficiency?as magnesium. Magnesium also helps with constipation, but taken in a much smaller dose, such as 8 drops two times a day, but in people with constipation it needs 15 drops three times a day, not to resolve the constipation but to resolve?a deficiency. The other common problem is B6 deficiency which leads to lack of stomach acid so take it three times a day."

EC Source: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/constipation_questions.html#Question_4666

In short, Ted is advising that both potassium citrate (with sea salt as necessary) and magnesium chloride(as magnesium oil -- 15 drops 3 x per day) should be taken for constipation issues as well as B6. Since you are also vegetarian or vegan then I would also strongly advise that you take Vitamin B12 as well(at least 1000-2000 mcg per day).

Your underweight problems may also be caused by insufficient digestion due to low stomach acid and/or low levels of digestive enzymes. That's why you should perhaps consider taking betaine HCL together with pancreatin enzymes(that should also contain papain and bromelain enzymes) to ensure proper digestion occurs so that you can put on some weight. Ted also advises that you should alkalize every day to cure the acid intestine problem(which is also tied in with your constipation and candida issues).

When I had candida I was also heavily constipated and was only having one difficult and painful(dry) bowel movement a week. I cured that problem fairly quickly by alkalizing heavily every day(at least 3 times a day outside mealtimes), taking one tablespoon VCO twice a day with meals and by taking lugol's iodine on a daily basis also helped. I suspect that it was probably the potassium from the potassium iodide in the LI was what helped me alot here, which is yet another reason to supplement higher dose LI.

As a child, I could take one half cup of castor oil without any results. The problem was emotional. Later in life, Ayurveda saved me with Triphala which I am taking forever and it is fabulous as no more constipation for years. But now I have constipation so bad and I know it is because I take a small amount of rye bread, otherwise it makes me weak and trembling with any carbs. I am allergic to wheat. My body just shuts down. But rye is rough and dry. I am of the vata constitution.

I want to do parasite cleanse and am in a fix. Can you help? I am an avid follower of your posts. Thanks, Bill.

Namaste, Om

I've read this is because of my liver working overtime trying to get rid of all the nasties. I don't want to stop the turp treatment.

Should I do a liver detox? Or is there a supplement I can take to help with the shoulder/neck pain or the liver?

Any suggestions would be nice. Thanks in advance

The Recochem product you mention landed me in hospital. It is not 100%. Then I ordered from Georgia, USA, the Forest product which is awesome. Expensive postage but well worth it.

Just to make sure, no one ingests the Recochem product, not even externally. I only used it externally and was overcome with the fumes and the effect on my skin which started to vibrate all over the body.

Namaste, Om

I am getting ready to try turpentine for the first time! I have a few questions.

Does biofilm only exist in the intestines or can it exist throughout the body? In other words, if getting rid of biofilm is the main goal, then is it better to make sure the turp gets into the intestines (with castor oil like you have mentioned elsewhere) instead of the bloodstream?

I am happy to say, I had a lot of diarreah, the next day my SINUSITIS which had been a major problem for as long as I know myself was gone, I was not getting up to blow my nose all the time, it was GREAT, I also had so much energy, OMG, I started sending emails to all my friends I was elated. I have not taken another dosage I am still scared as they say it can damage your liver & kidneys. The person I gave it to has really red eyes so I am not sure, I wish I knew more about this but the energy increase is sure worth it.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD POST MORE ABOUT THEIR REACTION. Please...please, we only talk about what we take and why we ara taking it, it sure would be NICE if we talked about the after effects, GOOd or BAD...please...this is a wonderful site, especially in today's society where you can't get nothing but doctors and their prescription pads!

Regarding your daughter's swollen belly; I accidentally caused my granddaughter's distended belly by insisting on feeding her oatmeal with breakfast. I have a zeal about feeding kids real foods while they are in my care and I thought oats had a part in that mix. For her, they didn't. She would return home to her microwave meals and her belly would go flat again. Although you are probably right, I just wanted to add that you might have a food allergy on your hands. ~With best wishes that you find your answer.

I've also discovered that using castor oil with turps is a key factor in the protocol. The turps will kill all manner of pathogens and parasites but will not harm the beneficial gut flora. The castor oil is necessary because it helps to spread the turps throughout the whole area of the intestines for a better and more thorough all-round effect.

I think that perhaps your child's gut may be overrun with pathogens and so the turps/castor oil would be a good protocol to follow.

Other protocols that you can also investigate and consider for your child are supplementing Boswellia(Frankincense) and/or undecanoic acid(which is derived from castor oil). Frankincense is called shallaki in Ayurvedic medicine and they use it widely in Ayurveda for gut problems as well as for arthritis.

There was also a mother in the autistic parents group who successfully and completely healed her child back to normal(according to her ATEC scores). One of the child's main anti-parasitic protocols was taking cinnamon, clove, raw garlic and tumeric mixed with ghee or clarifed butter several times a day with food. This protocol kills both parasites and pathogens. The key point in this protocol was that she used ghee -- a saturated oil -- as the carrier medium.

Many people miss the importance of taking nutrients in the best way possible by using the correct carrier medium. Notably she took all those herbal ingredients mixed with ghee because all the active ingredients within the herbs/nutrients themselves were probably oil soluble and not so soluble in water. That's why she was so successful with this protocol. You could also probably use coconut oil as a carrier substitute for the ghee. Virgin coconut oil also kills a wide variety of enveloped pathogens as well.

Also please be aware that if your child has a widespread gut infection and takes the turps/castor oil protocol then she will probably suffer a Herx or die-off reaction with accompanying strange or hyper behaviour. After a widespread pathogen/parasite kill in the gut, with consequent temporary release of further poisons into her gut(from the killed pathogens/parasites), these poisons will be temporarily absorbed into her blood which may perhaps cause some strange or hyper behaviours. This is normal and unavoidable and should abate after a short while after her liver eventually removes these die-off poisons from her blood.

Well after applying that coconut/terp to it it is finally starting to heal very nicely.

Also I have been using the terp in an enema and have been getting out lots of trash, some looks like flukes. They are light green in color and looks like dried grape skins or tomato skins. I only use about 5 drops at a time, but it seems to work well. Although I haven't been able to find much info on this subject, so I tried it with success.

It seems, from all your symptoms, that you probably do have candida problems. The muscle spasms you are having are probably due to a lack of magnesium and/or a lack of potassium in your diet. To confirm whether you have candida for yourself(since doctors are so hopeless at accurately diagnosing candida problems), you should take this free questionnaire online(which is based on Dr William Crook's questionnaire for diagnosing andconfirming candida):

Candida Questionnaire

You also stand a good chance of having low thyroid or hypothyroid condition due to the effects of candida waste toxins in the blood. So your immune system will also probably be impaired.

Since you live in UK, I would simply use the Myland's brand of pure gum turpentine which is made in UK. Just do a google search on "Myland's Turpentine" to find UK vendors.

You can also use Kerosene to help get rd of candida:

Kerosene: The Universal Healer

If you do have systemic candida, I've posted my full protocol here on EC. See this link. I've also written a book which is sold on EC and amazon.com that goes into much more detail about candida as a pathogen and also provides and describes a more focused multi-protocol to get rid of this disease. The point I'm making here is that systemic candida can be extremely hard to defeat. So taking just one thing against serious candida issues usually will not cure this problem -- the candida either never goes away completely or it just keeps comes back. That's why you really need to follow a more focused multi-nutrient protocol to get rid of this disease. You will need to use other candida killers such as lugol's iodine, borax, alkalizing etc as well as following a special diet with lifestyle changes for a successful outcome.

• white tongue
• psoriasis on scalp/forehead
• brain fog
• strained eyes / losing vision!
• on my left leg, by the shin, I get muscle spasms
• irregular BM
• very tired

Thank you so much.

I have had good success with Borax for candida, and we have done some "cycles" of MMS with the family just for overall health. I am always up for the next level of personal bio-hack.

I found in December that one of my sheep had a tapeworm. Perfect time to test the MMS. (She was very ill and had lost a lot of weight. I was out of town and found out she had the runs for weeks)

I suspected that the MMS would not work alone, so I started the MMS with DMSO, AM and PM.

After 5 days I added Standard process Zymex II (a parasite specific enzyme formula). 3 days later I added a few papaya seeds to the oats. after 3 doses of papaya seeds (PM, AM, PM) I went into the barn to find about 2 feet of tapeworm.

Within 3 days her poops were pretty normal, and she has doubled in size since then.

Her sister started with runny poops about 2 months later. I did the same protocol and she passed the tapeworm exactly the same. Hers was at least 4 feet.

It is in Russian at the moment but we will add English titles soon. Anyway it will give you an idea how the whole procedure looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKWRjSa4WM&feature=youtu.be

It is quite difficult to make yellow tonic but more easy to make the white one.

Ingredients of yellow tonic - vegetable turpentine -750ml, castor oil-300ml, oleic acid-200ml, caustic soda-20g and water -200ml. But you cannot just mix it, it a special technology to make the tonic.

Ingredients of white tonic - vegetable turpentine -500ml, water -550ml, baby soap -30g, salicylic acid -3g, camphor spirith -20g. Again, it a special technology to make this tonic.

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm

So you might also be able to purchase Digger's Low Odour Kerosene, hopefully, at any hardware store or camping shop in your area.

Some further information which might help you-- Klean-Strip products like kerosene are also sold at Walmart and Home Depot stores worldwide.

I've had multiple head and neck injuries, beginning with emotional and physical abuse by my mother, automobile accidents and horses. One of the vertebra in my neck is pressing against my spinal cord. I've had arthritis and degenerative disk disease of my neck, back, spine and big toe diagnosed. I had sciatica.

I was in a coma for a month and my communication skills are poor. I felt like I needed to give you this background because of things I've posted here.

I have learned that any pain I encounter is always caused by some hidden source of MSG I've ingested. When I have hay fever or asthma, I can look back at what I've eaten and always find the source that has weakened my system. At the same time the fruits and vegetables, that are supposed to make and keep us healthy, have been genetically modified in one way or the other and cannot provide the assimilation we expect. "Organic" is no longer safe and fresher is not better. True, everyone is going to react differently because no one eats identical when pregnant. The way our systems develop will not be identical because MSG crosses the placenta. (Intern. J. Neuroscience, 1984, Vol. 23, pp. 117-126)

For me the culprit is the flowing agent in salt. Through years of weeding out the things I found out were causing me problems...this tiny amount of a substance is what caused me so much pain and breathing difficulties. Flowing agents are in more than we can keep tabs on, but what is in our common table salt, I believe, is the root of many ailments. Very few are considering the binders, fillers and capsules used in many vitamins, supplements or medications. The majority of these things are "manufactured" from plants that have been genetically modified. What is advertised as "vegetable" is more than likely from corn or soy. I'm not in pain as my x-rays, CT's or MRI's indicate I should be.

I'm just sharing what I know has happened to me. The more that man fools with the food to make it drought and disease free, there seems to be more need for medications that are making things worse because long term studies cannot be conducted...just a quick fix for any problem without thinking about long term consequences. I watch a lot of news and undercover investigations that alerted me to what is happening in the world. The commercials in between were about "new ailments" needing new medications that had more side effects than the reason for taking the medication. It's been a long journey and I have learned much.

I read my Bible every day and I see prophecy being fulfilled...as many have seen for generations. We are closer, now, to the end of all things than our great-grandparents. 1 John 5:19 I hope I've made some sense to you and hopefully correct any way I might have offended you. KT

I have a better understanding of what these things are... you surely wrote out a great description and I so appreciate it. Maybe it is the names that throws me off. Borax and turpentine.. I keep thinking it's what takes paint off things...LOL

Anyway; I take a few things but I would love to know as a 60 year old woman to go as affordable as I can what would be the most ideal supplements or herbs to have quality of life and try and stay healthy being a strict budget....besides a good diet and water and exercise... like what supplements do we need and what can we do without. I do this by trial and error and try and stay alkaline and of course watching my blood pressure.. but I mean if I could get away with using lemons I would save a ton of money.........lol...

thanks again

I live in the Philippines and I also supplement turpentine regularly and the stores here also have very questionable sources of turpentine.

So I improvised.

The other thing is that inflammable products like Georgia Diamond G organic gum turpentine are not generally allowed to be shipped out of the US. I checked. But you will be able to order and ship turpentine from an ebay.com UK source because they will ship turpentine abroad from UK. Just type "Turpentine UK" into the ebay.com search box and the first few results will be from UK vendors. That's one option for you.

For myself, I simply improvised as I've said. Essential pine oil made from the Scots Pine is what I use and supplement. This stuff is triple distilled and so its quite strong. This form of pine oil might also be obtainable in Thailand from a health shop, for instance, in Bangkok -- not sure about the Thai provinces though.

I don't know whether you know, but you can also use ordinary lamp kerosene -- this is equivalent to turpentine. To help you to decide, here is a more expert and informative article by Walter Last, an Aussie who more thoroughly describes the many other different forms that you can use and supplement that are derived from pine trees, petroleum products and coal products. All are produced from various distillation techniques. See this link for more information:

Kerosene -- The Universal Healer

If you are also suffering from candida, then you will be able to buy most of the nutrient chemicals advised on this site in Bangkok. Just tell the Bangkok taxi driver to go to the big winged angel monument(Democracy Monument??) near the palace and get out there. Then look for a chemical store called Vittyasom Ltd. This place has all manner of chemicals, including Borax and Lugols Iodine (upstairs in the doctor's pharmacy they make the Lugols iodine up for you while you wait). This is my own personal source for cheaper but effective nutrient chemicals that I use.

I hear what you are saying! I often pretty hesitant to try something new with health and will have to read about it many, many times before I jump in to it, especially when it is labelled as something that is not to be ingested! I, too, have thought, “Turpentine? Are you crazy?” “Borax? Isn't that poisonous?” etc.

But often the more I look in to it, the more sense it makes. The turpentine that Om mentions, the organic stuff made in GA, is distilled from pine rosin. It is a completely natural product. It reminds me of how my sons made maple syrup in the spring by tapping our maple trees and boiling off the water. They took a part from the tree and processed it and made a great and nutritious food! So, I bought some of the organic turpentine from Ga. It smells quite amazing. Very “piney.” But, true to my nature, it sat for months without me even trying it. I had no specific need for it, but just wanted it on hand to try when I got brave enough. I have used it topically a couple of times for joint pain. I am currently using it to worm my goats since nothing else natural or otherwise has worked. So far, so good.

Regarding Borax…it is a natural product mined from the earth, like salt.

Here is a quote I love:

“Poison is in everything, and no thing is without poison. The dosage makes it either a poison or a remedy.” ~ Paracelsus

Taking a ton of borax would be a bad idea, and so would taking a ton of salt. Likewise, lobelia is an amazing herb. But if too much is taken, it causes vomiting.

I believe that people are taking borax and turpentine in very small quantities, measured by drops or ¼ teaspoons. Drinking them in any large quantity would not seem wise.

Borax is sodium tetraborate decahydrate – or Na₂B₄O₇ • 10H₂O. Sounds rather scary, except, that when you break it down you get, Sodium, Boron, and H2O.

I am just beginning to use these two things myself, so I have no remedies or successes to share yet, but hope to at some point.

The hydrogen peroxide inhalation therapy sounded rather scary to me for a while. But then I realize you are dealing with hydrogen and oxygen. Things we already breathe. I have used it in a nebulizer recently with shocking success.

Anyway, some skepticism is wise, I think. It makes sense to read and study and ask questions. Thanks for asking valid and good questions. I will look forward to hearing some other thoughts on the matter!

~Mama to Many~

I used a questionable product before and even though I phoned the manufacturer, got a vague reply. With dire results.

The pure gum 100% product from Georgia, US, is the one to use. Look it up online.

Namaste, Om

excuse my ignorance...

I do love EC though and thank you for the valuable info...

I'm very interested in pursuing a turpentine solution to my candida problems, which have haunted me for years. Now I'm living in NongKhai, northeast thailand, a very beautiful place, but also a very isolated one. In the last week I've searched all the hardware/painting stores within a 15 kilometre radius and the only turpentine I could fine is this bottle. In the second photo you'll notice the percentages written on the label, apparently white spirits is the 95% and turpentine is the 5%. What do you think, should I give this bottle a try? Might it be safe? Appreciate your help, Jack

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Health-Beauty-/26395/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=Turpentine

Let us know of any progress.