Turpentine and Kerosene Remedies

Turpentine and Gut Flora  

Posted by Elandreya (Edinburgh) on 04/15/2017

Hi guys. I have been following Dr. Jennifer Daniels turpentine protocol for a couple weeks and getting some amazing and um.. shocking results. I am keen to continue with the treatment however I am concerned about the effect that turpentine may have on friendly bacteria.

Does anybody know if turpentine has a negative impact on gut flora?

So far my internet research is coming up with next to nothing. No tangible evidence being presented either way. I have read that it is important to take probiotics during this treatment. But I'm wondering what's point if I'm wiping them out every time I take turpentine? My gut and I would greatly appreciate any light that anyone can shine on the matter. It seems like this could be a serious drawback of the turpentine cleanse.

Thanks! 😊


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Posted by Fleur (San Franciscco, Ca) on 03/09/2017
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Help: herx, arthritis pain after turp bath.. The article says it can increase arthritis systems. I did one bath and have had really bad arthritis pain along with a bunch of other awful symptoms. do you think it will get better, the arthris pain? I didn't have any before I did the turp bath. also, how long will this herx last. I did 30ml (2 tablespoons) in my bath.

Replied by Turpentine User
Indiana
04/16/2017

You are going through detox symptoms as the critters that are causing the problem are putting up a fight. There are spaces between joints that they accumulate in these areas. Anything that lives has to poo . The amount of infection and food to continue feeding them overwhelms the cleanup crewing idea the body..read protocols on diet that can be causing the problem in the first place.

Replied by Julie
Camdenton
07/03/2017

I notice that this post is dated back to March and I was wondering how you were doing? If you kept up with the turpentine therapy and I was thinking that it would be a good idea for you to take the turpentine internally. I do it with a cup of honey half a cup of turpentine and a half a cup of apple cider vinegar with mothers. Shake it up and keep it in a glass bottle with a plastic lid. I start with one teaspoon for about 4 days and then I get to a tablespoon. I go 2 weeks on and two days off. When I got to 4 days off and got sick again I went back on it because I realized I was not completely cleared up. I hope that you will update us and I hope that the moderators pass my response on to you.


Posted by Gigi815 (Edison, Nj) on 03/01/2014
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I tried the shot glass of gum spirits in the tub. Soaked for about 20 minutes, felt good. Came out, my skin is so soft it's unbelievable. Will continue at least once a week in a bath. Also started to take internally. No problems, had some slight burning around the heart area. My doctor told me one of my values were a little thick, but that was "normal" for someone "my age, 55". (Didn't like that) Anyway, thinking the gum spirits is working on the area that needs fixing. Will continue with 1/2 teaspoon and build up. Will see how it goes.

Replied by Joeboo
New York, US
04/07/2014
3 out of 5 stars

Better But With Side Effects

I've tried turpentine bath 2x a week for 2 weeks now. It has good and not so good result for me. Yes, there was a tingly feeling on the inner thigh area every time I bathe, but it's not a biggy. Definitely, alleviates my lower back pain and relaxes my whole body, no doubt. Feeling very clean and removes all the crap out of my skin. Will continue doing it...

However, every time I bathe, after a couple of hours, I got flaky scalp. Not sure if it's too strong for the scalp or my head develops the flakes/dandruff fighting the bacteria/crap. Well, I was hoping that turps bath will heal my dandruff issue instead of getting more… Any other thoughts from people who has same issue? Thanks Bill for this helpful information.

Replied by Sdl
Canada
06/03/2014

Re: Turpentine bath. How did things go?

Replied by Redtulip
Nz
07/04/2014

It is VERY important to use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and the method is very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes.

Do search Google for turpentine bath procedure or turpentine bath tonic.

Replied by Collcarm
Usa
12/19/2015

In my experience...The dandruff flakes are generally from microscopic mites or fungus, or yeast (which is fungus too).. the turpentine is killing one (or both) and you are experiencing that.. Don't give up.. fungus flakes off when it dies, like ringworm does.. (it's a fungus too) Notice your feet clearing up too .. :))

Replied by Plam
London
01/27/2016

You're not supposed to soak the head when you're taking turpentine bath.


Posted by Johnboy (Arkansas) on 12/24/2013
1 out of 5 stars

Warning

Much too strong a reaction. Very unpleasant. If used, only use a very small amount. Two thirds of a shotglass produced a very itching, tingling and burning reaction on my legs. I used coconut oil to calm them down. I cannot recommend this based on my unpleasant reaction.

Replied by Redtulip
Nz
06/04/2014

You had this reaction because of the incorrect way of using turpentine for bath. It is not soluble in water so you must use a special emulsion in a gum turpentine base.

Also it it a special procedure not just laying in water with turpentine.

This is a link which may be useful.

http://thebasisof.blogspot.co.nz/2012/03/turpentine-baths.html

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
06/06/2014
1246 posts

I can't have a bath where I live because everyone prefers showers in hot tropical countries like the Philippines. So I don't have a bath in my house.

So how I do it is to have a shower and just mix some drops of turps in with the soap in my hands and then wash my body down like that. The turps becomes emulsified by the soap into tiny droplets when you do this and it mixes in more thoroughly with the water and soap so it spreads better over the skin.

But just pouring a shot glass into a bath is also not really recommended. Better to add ordinary pine oil bubble bath into the bath first -- or add some soap to the bath water -- that will emulsify the turps into tiny droplets that will actually help to spread the turps around in the bathwater more thoroughly.

If you don't use the soap, the turps just tends to sit and tends to concentrate on the top of the water anyway because it is so insoluble in water. So it doesn't really spread down into the bath water where you want it to be.

In older times, the doctors regularly advised turpentine/water enemas. But they would always advise that you mix the turps and water with a little bit of soap because it helps to emulsify and spread the turps into the water as tiny droplets, making the enema much more effective. Same principle for taking a turps bath.

Replied by Lola
Nz
06/17/2014

No, taking shower with a mixture of soap and few drops of gum turpentine is not the same as taking a turpentine bath.

The volume of water in a bath works as vacuum cleaner helping to clean the body through your skin. After having a turpentine bath you must have a rest about 1 hour in warm bed. This is a procedure protocol.

You must use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes."

Replied by Hale
California
03/11/2017

Did u get better? I'm so sick from the bath..

"Help: herx, arthritis pain after turp bath.. The article says it can increase arthritis systems. I did one bath and have had really bad arthritis pain along with a bunch of other awful symptoms. do you think it will get better, the arthris pain? I didn't have any before I did the turp bath. also, how long will this herx last. I did 30ml (2 tablespoons) in my bath."


Posted by Fiona (Tustin, Ca) on 10/29/2013
5 out of 5 stars

5 years ago, I was in so much pain and as soon as I started coffee enema, pain was gone, but it was very difficult to increase my natural energy. I got pure gum spirit of turpentine. I put about 100 ml in a bath. Please start with a shot glass. It can get very hot. Turpentine is very very potent. I felt all my cells and muscles start pumping like earthquake. I mean that was strong pumping. even after coming out of the bathtub my body cells were pumping one more hours.. I think this is much stronger than getting a strong body massage.

I did this 2 days in a row and I have this tremendous eneregy that I had not felt in my entire life.

A few things that I added DMSO, Auarium salt (superior salt I can't complement enough) Magnesium chlrorite, methylene blue, on top of turpentine. First day I only used turpentine and the second day I added them. I felt much less discomfort with the second day.

Please be cautious of the turpentine amount. Very very potent. Because it was my first try I got scared whether I used too much or not. It turned out I was fine.

I felt so great afterwards. I also did this. I had pine essential oil. And I used several drops for half liter of water and aquarium salt and I did enema. Great. This is a very mild solution. Absolutely great. There is some magic power in pine oil. Oh, just only 2 days after, my flat belly is even more flater and smaller waist line. I mean I don't understand why every woman is not having a turpentine bath.

One more thing. Be prepared to sweat. Because it will make you! I love love love turpentine bath. and it is so cheap. a quart is less than 7 dollars from home depot. Pine essential oil is a little more. And this quart of turpentine includes potent, very potent healing power.

I mean it makes sense. Illness is so widespeared. If you were God, wouldn't you also make ths cure accessible everywhere? such things like pine trees?

From my experience the cure is not from rare or expensive sources. which is a very good news for humanity.

Replied by Lola
Nz
05/23/2014

It is really good to see that people are interested in turpentine bath. It is a really good remedy which you can use in many cases.

But you must use only special tonics on a base of vegetable turpentine (not a turpentine itself). These tonics were invented by Russian doctor Zalmanov over 60 years ago and very popular in Russia and Europe.

They are two types of tonics - white and yellow. The white one increases blood pressure and the yellow one decreases. And also you must follow the procedure and schemes.

Replied by Redtulip
New Zealand
09/06/2014
5 out of 5 stars

Recently we took a video instruction on how to take turpentine bath in correct way.

It is in Russian at the moment but we will add English titles soon. Anyway it will give you an idea how the whole procedure looks like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKWRjSa4WM&feature=youtu.be

Replied by Marsha
Denver
03/02/2016

I love your question/comment about God, brilliant!

Replied by Lil
Nz
11/02/2016

Hi! I live in Nz and I' m keen to take the turpentine to get rid off the anoying candida, do anybody know which is the correct kind of turpentine and where can I get it in NZ? Thanks!


Replied by Mama To Many
Middle, Tennessee, Usa
04/29/2015

Bill, Thanks for the link to the book. Fascinating! After reading about your using turpentine for a toothache, I tried it myself. I have been having some pain in a molar. Clove oil or a tiny charcoal poultice were helping for pain. But I decided to try turpentine. I put a drop on my finger and rubbed it on the area of discomfort. I did this 3 times in two days. I am no longer noticing the pain. Thanks for all of you teaching on this and everything else! ~Mama to Many~

Turpentine Carrier Oil  

Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 03/10/2015

Hi Bill,

Since I have a gallbladder problem and are unable to digest fats (any fatty foods cause instant diarrhea and terrible abdominal pain) I am a bit concerned about taking turpentine with castor oil. Is there any other carrier I can use? I am also wondering why do I have the gallbladder problem. Scan has shown that I have a small cyst in my gallbladder, but I am sure it is not a stone because I have a good low-fat diet. However, my gallbladder function is definitely compromised, it seems like it does not produce enough bile to digest fatty foods.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
03/10/2015
1246 posts

Hi Marcin...If you are wary of the castor oil in the turpentine remedy then just take the turpentine with sugar or molasses. Take a teaspoon of sugar or molasses into your mouth first then add the turpentine and mix them together. Then swallow it and chase it down with some water.

Since you have a suspect gall bladder problem, I would also take Chanca piedra(CP) tea 3 or 4 times a day. CP will help to dissolve and remove any gallstone or kidney stone. CP also acts to reduce calcium in the blood. Cysts always contain calcium which is usually due to high calcium levels in the blood and body. CP will also help to reduce calcium levels in the blood. It will also reduce blood sugar, blood pressure and blood fats. I would also try and reduce dairy(excess calcium) in your diet which always tends to promote cysts and stones in the body. Taking magnesium citrate (250 mgs twice a day) should also help to regulate your body calcium back to healthier levels again. Lugol's Iodine(50 mgs per day) will also help to get rid of cysts and tumors but I think that you are already taking this one.

Replied by Marcin
Toronto, Canada
03/10/2015

Thank you for the advice, but I just realized I had made a mistake in my post. What I have in my gallbladder is not a cyst, but a polyp. But I guess that CP might still be of help because of its bile duct relaxing properties.

Replied by Serlinia
Capiz, Philippines
03/13/2015

Bill, Where can I purchase Lugols iodine in the Philippines?

Replied by Gratitude
Northeast, Usa
04/27/2015

Hi Bill,

First, that booklet "A Cure for a Penny" by Frye was such a wonderful read. I hope many take the time to read it; so inspiring!

What else can I take turpentine in? I know castor oil is recommended and why or on sugar but what other options? In juice? In almond milk?

Thanks in advance!

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
04/28/2015
1246 posts

Hi Gratitude...There are many ways to take turpentine and it really depends where you want it to act as an anti-microbial in your body. If you take it with an oil like olive oil or VCO then generally it will act partially in the intestines as well as in the blood. But its better to use castor oil in my opinion because CO is also a laxative so it travels through the intestines quickly -- carrying the turps with it from end to end. This is a good way to disinfect your intestines if you have problems there like candida.

I'm not quite sure why Dr Daniels only specifically recommends taking turps with sugar cubes of a specific size. If, as she insists, the old US slaves of that period used turps as an all-round remedy then I'm pretty sure they must've used either cane syrup, molasses or honey in combination with the turps. Cubed sugar wasn't invented and mass produced until 1873(by Tate and Lyle), which was some time after the US slave period.

I have also used a teaspoon of turps with a tspn of honey or molasses washed down with some water and used a tspn of turps with about 1/4 glass of plain water to help kill pathogens in the blood. I have read in the US Dispensatory(1847) and in the British Pharmacopia(1914) where turpentine was commonly used as a steam inhalant with boiling water and was also used as an enema together with a small amount of natural soap(not detergent).

Also found an interesting passage in the Merck Medical Manual of 1899. Here's an extract for turpentine:

Chian, Turpentine, Merck.

Thick, tenacious, greenish-yellow liq.; peculiar penetrating odor; Uses: Extern. cancerous growths.

Turpentine. Canada -- USP

Balsam of fir. Uses chiefly extern. -- Dose 5--30 grn., in pill.

I also found many entries for Sodium Borate(Borax), Iodine, Potassium Iodide and Hydrogen Peroxide.

Replied by Sue
St. Jospeh, Mi
04/27/2015

Hi, where can I find the book, A Cure for a Penny?

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
04/28/2015
1246 posts

He Sue...You can find the book by Dr Charles Oscar Frye here.

Replied by Mmsg
Somewhere, Europe
04/28/2015

Bill, you quote from Merck: Uses: Extern. cancerous growths. Have you ever heard of it being used successfully this way?

Replied by Sue
St. Jospeh, Mi
04/28/2015

Thanks Bill


Turpentine Contraindications  

Posted by Emma (Wa, Usa) on 01/05/2015

Hello everyone,

I'm new to this site (and turpentine) and I decided to join because this looks like a good place for valid information regarding turpentine usage. I know that turpentine is xenobiotic and I am on a couple of Rx meds. Does anyone know what the timing/spacing should be?

I have lyme and co-infections and would like to know if anyone is using turpentine for the same reason, and if successes/failures can be shared.

I appreciate any input.

Replied by Susan
Louisiana, US
02/01/2015

I'm curious if the turpentine has helped lyme? I've got it and I'm researching alt treatments.

Replied by Gyan
Hawaii
05/24/2017

What are the contradictions for doing a turpentine cleanse? My friend is on 3 psychotropic drugs and I am concerned there may be an adverse reaction from the turpentine. P

Replied by Sylvia
Millersville
05/24/2017

Someone on 3 psychotropic drugs will need to work with a skilled alternative health practitioner before trying any natural remedies.


Posted by Denise (Seattle) on 01/10/2014

Hello Bill, I've seen many of your posts about turpentine. I am considering taking it with regard to multiple pain issues. I also have hepatitis-c and peripheral neuropathy...Will this bother either of my issues? My concern is... if it strips off paint from a wall, will it bother my myelin sheath? Thank you very much...

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/10/2014
1246 posts

Hi Denise...Supplementing Turpentine has the effect of cleansing the bowels and purifying the blood. I have never read any research where turpentine has ever caused damage to nerves. The neuropathy problem that you mention is usually normally caused by the Hepatitis C virus.

The symptoms you might experience are a wooziness and drowsiness when you take too much turpentine because turpentine also has a sedative effect. Turpentine also can have a laxative effect, but I have only ever experienced a slight loosening of the stools when I took 2 tspns of turpentine in one go(double the normal dose). And if there is any ongoing disease in the blood or bowels, such as Hepatitis C, then you may well get a Herx or die-off reaction as well.

You can also take turpentine baths if you wish. Add one or two small shot glasses of turpentine into the bath and stay in the bath for about 1/2 hour. The iso-penenes in turpentine, the main beneficial ingredients, are also easily absorbed through the skin.

For interests sake, and to allay any fears, medical doctors commonly used and recommended internal teaspoon dosages of turpentine in the past.

Here are some examples of older turpentine usage and dosages:

The Physiomedical Dispensatory 1869 - Turpentine Usage

The US Dispensatory 1918 - Turpentine Properties

British Pharmaceutical Codex -- Turpentine

Replied by Denise
Seattle
01/12/2014

Hello Bill from the Phillipines, You said in a reply that it was likely my hep-c that caused my peripheral neuropathy...I've been treating my peripheral neuropathy with everything on this site and more with no results...So the safe assumption is I'm going at it all wrong...I should be attacking the source which is the hep-c...Are we in agreement with this...Thank you much..

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/12/2014
1246 posts

Hi Denise...Generally, nueropathy problems are fairly commonplace with Hepatitis C patients. This is called Cryoglobulinemia and results from the immune system cryoglubulins "globbing" in the blood vessels and causing inflammation affecting the nerves.

Regarding your more recent post, it is unfortunate that you have had such a reaction to the turpentine from taking such small drop dosages. Turpentine also has mild diuretic action, which means that it expels water and minerals from the body. Normally this does not cause problems(from my own experience), but if your main electrolytes(calcium, magnesium, potassium, sodium) are out of balance then cramping in the body will occur. Lack of magnesium and/or potassium in the body are favourites for causing cramp.

Turpentine is also a wide-action pathogen killer. When pathogens are killed in high numbers then poisons will be released from the destroyed pathogens that can also give added or increased symptoms which can be severe. This is called the Herx effect. Furthermore, if your liver is weak or insufficient and has difficulty clearing these poisons then this may also give other added symptoms.

I must also add that turpentine acts to expel xenobiotics -- it will remove any synthetic drug or poison which the body does not recognize. This would also put a strain on the liver. I have no idea whether you are taking synthetic ribovarin or interferon, but turpentine may well act to also expel them from the body. So, if you are also taking these drugs, then you should not be taking the turpentine.

Perhaps you should investigate Oscar's BHT Remedy or Ted's Lysine, Threonine and Vitamin C remedies for Hepatitis C. These options should not generally give you such severe problems.

Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/12/2014

Bill, you really got me confused now. I'm taking 2 prescription drugs while on my anti-candida protocol with the turpentine. Are you now saying that people on drugs/xenobiotics shouldn't be taking turpentine? Maybe I'm not full getting what you're saying.

Please clear this up for me. If this is the case, then no wonder my detox symptoms were going so bad on me. Maybe I'm thinking wrong though! Thanks!

Replied by Denise
Seattle
01/13/2014

I had a test for cryogobulins 2 months ago and everything was fine according to my PCP...He said I have no inflamation...I take 900 mgs magnesium malate a day and many other supplements..The brand name is Homco gum turpentine....I am currently taking a gram of Vit c an hour to flush out the turp. I take NO drugs at all. I read on the web that the herx effect is bogus...It was made up by dr'd to cover themselves when a person gets a reaction to a drug they prescribes...Google it and see...Also I am not a diabetic...I got hep-c from a car accident in 1969 and had a blood transfusion of one unit..Everything was fine until they discovered I had hep-c in 2003 and they talked me into a liver biopsy..I later found out that my enzymes were 35 and 41..Then after the biopsy my enzymes shot up to mid 300 range...and the trouble began......Someone told me "They woke up the virus."

Replied by Denise
Seattle
01/13/2014

Forgot...I'm also taking 1000 mgs of lysine five hours in a row every day to get back to where I was. NO ibuprophen as it raises my enzymes...Even 200 mgs will raise them...Ted's remedy..

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
01/13/2014
1246 posts

Hi Tony....Turpentine/Kerosene both act as a diuretic and they expel xenobiotics. They generally function to cleanse the intestines and purify the blood.

Contra-indications between natural nutrients and drugs is always a problem. But whereas natural remedies tend to treat the core reasons for disease, drugs for chronic diseases are generally always palliative -- they only ever treat the symptoms.

What I'm saying here is that although these medical drugs might make you feel better, they do not treat the core reasons for you problems -- especially for heart disease and depression. So, if you continue to use these drugs, then further down the timeline these conditions are bound to get worse(because drugs do not treat the core reason -- they do not cure) and you will have to buy more and more drugs which fits the business profit model of the drugs companies perfectly.

In terms of drugs for serious chronic diseases, since a cure is generally out of the picture, we are not really patients -- we are just consumers.

Replied by Tony
Tn, Usa
01/13/2014

Thanks Bill for the explanation. I thought you were originally saying that turpentine wasn't supposed to be taken at all with drugs. I already understood how bad drugs are for the body & they don't provide a cure. My main concern was mixing the turpentine with drugs & thinking it would create a possible fatal reaction. Thanks & God Bless!

Replied by Josh1875
Ft Worth, Texas
04/04/2014

I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me why everytime I try to take a teaspoon of turp mixed with honey or oil I start to get a burning sensation when I go to pee and feel like I need to go pee and can.t go for hours; sometimes it is unbearable

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
04/04/2014
1246 posts

Hi Josh1875...A burning sensation when peeing indicates acid blood. Turpentine also acts as a diuretic -- it clears excess water(and minerals) from the blood. I never have a burning sensation when peeing after I take Turpentine. So the answer to this problem is simply to alkalize the blood by taking either the sodium bicarbonate(baking soda) with water remedy or by taking the ACV, bicarbonate and water remedy as shown here on EC. This should help to reduce the burning.

Being unable to pee is also indicative of either an infection in the bladder or prostatitis so I would get your bladder checked to be safe. Nutrients that will help with bladder infections are cranberry juice and/or D-Mannose. Larger dose Lugol's iodine (at least 8 drops or 50 mgs a day in split doses) will help both against bladder infections and help against prostatitis.

Research evidence has shown that Iodine prevents and reduces cysts in fibrocystic breast disease, uterine fibroid and prostate cyst formation (prostatitis). See this research.


Turpentine Enemas  

Posted by Mary (Saskatchewan, Canada) on 03/10/2014

Has anyone heard of or tired a turpentine enema? I have not tried one. I am just very curious as I read about it in one of Bill's citations of Turpentine uses in the early part of the century. They used it for bad constipation.


Turpentine in the Nose  

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Posted by Maryellen (Loveland, Ohio) on 09/03/2015
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Better But With Side Effects

Turpentine in the Nose:

Use with caution and learn from my experience. I have used the turpentine in my sinus for sometime now. I slightly dilute it with water in the palm of my hand and standing up I snuff it into my sinus. It clears out any mucus and I believe it is even caring for the brain because evidently it penetrates the blood brain barrier; Therefore the biofilm melting property is quite health promoting.

Caution: I suspected Cytomegelo Virus (a herpes which can lead to Kaposi's Sarcoma ( it is considered incurable due to the biofilm coating)) I am interested in mechanizing a cure.

While lying down on my side I chose to snuff a single drop of the diamond G turpentine into my nostril. If it had not been so painful, it would have been comical. The turpentine entered my sinus but also the sinus above my eye.

Instantly; The mucus drainage was profound! Sneezing violent. Entire area around my eye was bright red as well as the eye. The deep cleansing produced sinus pain and some swelling of tissues. Copious water consumption was required to cope with the fluid transfer mechanism. (Pure water consumption in copious amounts is required in order to 'push out - replace' the contaminated fluids)

24 hours later, the left side of my head feels better than decades before now.

Will I do it again? ABSOLUTELY. I will DILUTE the turpentine, lay on the opposite side and smile as I visualize the destruction of all possible viruses. Probably in the future I will inhale the fumes from time to time. ME


Posted by Lori (America) on 01/15/2015
5 out of 5 stars

A doctor for NASA sent me a product. He said when they send astronauts into space they can't have them get sick. He said the germs that make people sick first incubate in the back of the throat where the nose and ears meet, where you can't reach gargling. His product was a small tincture, the instructions were to put drops in your nose so it will reach the place in the back of the throat. That was the best product. It cleared that space of mucus instantly. It wasn't for sale after I ran out I couldn't get any more.

After I started turpentine, I tried it in my nose. Now I know what the secret ingredient was that the product the NASA Dr used: turpentine, not even diluted. It works great.

Replied by Cindy
Usa
01/16/2015

Hi Lori

If you see this post could you tell us please how you used turpentine in your nose? I am very interested, thanks

Replied by Caley
Usa
01/26/2015

I believe the nasa nasal emollient was this. http://www.ponaris.net/. I had a doctor give me a sample before and was reminded of it when I recently tried my first teaspoon of turpentine. It contains pine oil so maybe that's why it is so similar.

Replied by Iris
Arizona
12/26/2015

Interesting medical use for the nose.


Turpentine Medicinal Uses  

Posted by Robert (Ca) on 06/13/2016

Pure distilled "spirits" of turpentine is basically the refined sap from specific pine tree varieties. It's history of use goes way back to Babylon. It was commonly referred to as 'terebinthe' or 'terebinthine'. It was available OTC as terpin hydrate however codeine was added latter & prescription required. It was used by American natives & African slaves as a inexpensive & accessible remedy. I would not advise using hardware store varieties as they are adulterated with petroleum distillitates & the "pure gum spirits" may be contaminated with the herbicide paraquat which is toxic.

There is a Australian town whose residents used turpentine & subsequently the 'governors' added chemical toxins to prevent ingestion. I am sure that Earth Clinic is under the FDA microscope so I caution against references to a certain brand(s) who make their living on making pure spirits 'the old fashioned way'. One maker will not answer health questions due to this scrutiny by FDA. Please refrain from such questions & thus protect this valuable source.

Toxicity: most anything is toxic in large doses, such as water. The half-life of 'turp' is 25 hours approximately, so a safe time lapse between each single dose is about 5-days totaling 5-6 single doses over 1-month. Start low at 12 drops & work up to about 40 drops, all taken with 1/2 to 1-tbsp sugar. After this period, a monthly single maintenance dose may be taken if/when necessary.

As we all know, there is no single remedy & one size doesn't fit all. This site is experimental & for the dissemination of freely sharing ideas. There are no 'cures' until an autopsy is performed. Health begins in the gut & the mind will keep us well as stress is dis-ease.

Replied by Robert Henry
Ten Mile, Tn.
06/14/2016

HI U ROBERT,,,,,,,,,, where do you get all your knowledge? Myself, I 've followed Dr Daniels for several years and she is the one who brought this to the world's attention a few years ago. Your advice is slightly contrary to her's. Where did you get your protocol?

The FDA got after her and she is now practicing in Panama. You make sense because 6 doctors were killed last year while working on a simple cure for early cancer.

I am the one who told folks where to buy their turpentine on this site. Should I not have done this?

You are a new boy on the block and coming on strong. I'll keep an eye on you.

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EC: Nope, not a new boy on the block. Robert has been contributing to EC for years, off and on!


Turpentine Usage  

Posted by Joes (Calgary, Alberta) on 04/05/2015

I have a question about using turpentine. Have obtained some from Diamond Forest Products. I have been doing 1 tsp, 2x/week for the last 4 weeks. Want to use turp to get rid of microbes and possible parasites in blood and body. Hoping it will help with fatigue and also cancer: Multiple Myeloma. Fatigue is a long standing problem. Have problems with constipation and am using enemas.

Have been using turp at 1 tsp, 2x/week for the last 4 weeks (with ground up sugar cubes and about 1 Tbs of olive oil), and seemed to be able to tolerate it with moderate discomfort: concentration, spacey feeling, irritable, some nausea. Last night I took the turp (1 tsp) only with olive oil. I don't know if this was coincidence, but it hit me a lot harder with symptoms.

Would appreciate any advice about this and how I should continue with treatment. Also was thinking about the caution about kidneys and nervous system how much of a concern is this?

Thanks for help

Replied by Joes
Calgary, Alberta
04/17/2015

I have read through the posts and would appreciate having clarification on some issues.

Thanks Bill for the Anti-candida protocol, will be looking at that and the link to the page on dealing with fungus.

Would like to know if enemas are enough to unblock the colon for parasites/microbes to exit.

How much of a dose of turpentine is needed to be effective (can I use less than a tsp)? I have read some posts that say to use turp for only 2x/week and others that say to use for 5days/week. I have been using a tsp 2x/week and have felt a lot of reaction (irritability, fatigue, crappy feeling), but have not passed anything noticeable. Not sure if candida is widespread. I have taken a break for a week now and plan to get back probably in another week.

Has anyone more info on using Turp as an enema, would it be as effective as oral consumption? Would like to give it a try.

Also planning to add more vit/min supplements. I have always wondered if the supplements in health food stores are good. Are they natural or synthetic. I would imagine natural would be better, but where to get a good source? Thanks for any help.

Trying to figure out what to do next.


Posted by Lorik (Martinsville, In) on 05/16/2014

I have candida & parasite problems. Instead of starting at 1/4 tsp of turp could I start at an amount of DROPS & take it each day? Or is twice a week the only recommendation? Thank you for this site.

I've tried turp before, taking only about 7 drops each day. It seemed my heart rate and blood pressure would go crazy! Any ideas on that? Thank you

Replied by Bill
San Fernando, Philippines
05/19/2014
1246 posts

Hi Lorik...If you have serious systemic candida and other pathogenic infections in your body and if you take turpentine for the first time, you will usually always get a Herx reaction which is caused by heavy die-off of pathogens with release of poisons.

Turpentine also removes biofilms with consequent large release of stored heavy metals into the body also causing other strange symptoms. When candida in particular is killed in large numbers by the turps, there is an even heavier release of candida poisons into the body. So, for a little while, you will feel worse -- with heart palpitations, higher BP and other strange symptoms, until your body has had time to clear these poisons from the body.

So the least you should do is to incorporate additional protocols like molybdenum to neutralize the candida poisons as well as use chlorella or kelp or spirulina to help detox and transport the heavy metals out of you body safely.

I don't really think that you will get very far in you candida remedy if you just use candida-kill remedies on their own. Not enough. You will need to do much more than that and use a much wider and more focused protocol to cure serious systemic candida issues which is why I always favour a multi-protocol approach. My full anti-candida protocol is shown about a quarter way down on this EC page:

http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/candida-diet-protocol.html

The strategy I use against candida is shown here:

Anti-Candida and Anti-Pathogen Protocols

Anti-Biofilm Protocols

Alkalizing Protocols

Essential Detox Protocols

Liver Support Protocols(Liver, Kidney and Blood Support)

Vitamin and Mineral Support (Immune System Support)

The Health Defence Diet

Replied by Emma
Wa, Usa
01/05/2015

Hello Bill,

You seem to be the expert in this group, so I will address this email to you.

I have candida and parasite (and lyme w/ co-infections) and I would like to use turpentine to address these. I have read Dr. Daniels' protocol but I don't like the idea to ingesting all that sugar. I have hyperinsulinemia and Diabetes type 2 from the lyme, so a lot of sugar consumption is not good.

I started my first dose of turpentine this AM -source from Georgia- and only took 1/4 tsp with 1 tsp coconut syrup (lower glycemic index) and 1 tsp avocado oil, chased it down with some liquid. I did not eat any food. I immediately became dizzy.

According to Dr. Daniels, becoming dizzy means that the turpentine went into the system too quickly and that not enough stayed in the gut. This defeats the very purpose that I'm trying to accomplish, namely keeping it in the gut to kill candida/parasites. I bought your book the other day so I can't use it as a resource for the moment. What am I doing wrong and what would you recommend?

Thank you.

Replied by Bill
San Fernando
01/06/2015
1246 posts

Hi Emma...The reason you become drunk or dizzy when you took the turpentine is not directly because of the turpentine itself but because of its rapid-kill effect on large numbers of parasites, candida, viruses and bacteria in your body. And when killed in such large numbers, candida releases aldehydes and alcohol poisons into the blood that will mentally and physically affect you.

I've been working with autistic children who are also taking turpentine and this has more extreme behavioural effects on a child's mind and body like stimming, aggression, repetitive behaviours, not speaking, wild behaviour etc. This is due to the effects of these alcohols and aldehydes on their developing brains. By the way, these children get exactly the same mental symptoms if they take MMS -- so these mental effects are actually caused by the pathogen die-off(Herx effect). This Herx or die-off effect is fairly prominent and should always be expected when you are initially killing such a wide range of pathogens as occurs in Lyme disease.

The effect of supplementing turpentine(or MMS) is necessarily different in an adult because adult brains are fully developed whereas a young child's brain is still developing. So, in an adult, the symptoms will manifest as feeling dizzy or drunk because of the aldehydes and alcohols released by the dead candida. Mood(depression) may also be affected.

If you wish to keep most of the turps to act in the gut then take the turps with castor oil. All the reasons for this are given in detail here.

The Turpentine Protocol is shown here. Take turpentine/CO three times a week(on a day on, day off basis) -- take it twice at the maintainance dose(1 tspn turps + 1 tablespoon CO) and once at the full laxative dose(1 tspn turps + 3 to 4 tablespoons CO) every week.

CO is a laxative and helps to disperse the turps rapidly throughout the whole intestines. The CO also inhibits the turpentine being absorbed into the blood -- so the turps mainly acts throughout the intestines.

So perhaps you should try taking the turpentine/CO protocol as advised above.

Replied by Roni
Il
07/03/2015

Hello Bill,

I have candida overgrowth, and have been having it for years. My symptoms are hair loss, tiredness, stomach pain, weight gain, sinus problems, bad breath, bloating, skin problems, white coated tongue etc.

Over the years I have tried everything with no result. I have tried HP which helped a little bit, coloidal silver, mastic gum, oregano oil, grapefruit seed extract, borax, iodine, graviola, pao d'arco tea, haritaki churna, baking soda, apple sider vinegar, turpentine... I was taking the HP for about 8 months and it helped a little bit with the tiredness, but my tongue didn't clear up. I also scrape and clean my tongue twice a day.

I went to see holistic doctors and regular primary care physicians -nothing, they didn't help. I have been on a diet for 2 years. I do not eat sugar, fruits, no coffee, no alcohol, keep low carb , no gluten, no bread, no processed food, I occasionally cheat with honey on gluten free crackers.

I've been taking turpentine ( 1 tsp turp with one sugar cube, once a day) for about three weeks now. It does not seem to work too.

I'm desperate and tired. I'm reading all these comments and articles and the turp and HP seem to work for most of the people. I have no idea what to do anymore. I appreciate any help and suggestions.


Turpentine Uses  

Posted by Suzy (Eugene, Or) on 01/31/2014

I bought the turpentine labeled Pure Gum Spirits... I saw the one that said 100% tree resin also. I decided that I would try a little bit in my bath water before I tried to ingest it. WHEEW~ the smell was pretty strong and it somehow did not strike me as a "natural smell" I changed my mind to even bathe in a little bit. I emptied the tub and noticed that my 100 year old cast iron porcelain clawfoot tub with some pretty awful mineral build up seemed to be looking a little better where I had splashed the turpentine.I grabbed some plain steel wool and went to work. I had tried all the stuff advertised for rust and stains and soap scum etc... etc.. and a whole bunch of home cleaners...including our friend vinegar.....but nothing worked like that straight up turpentine! ( Had to rinse it pretty good) BUT -- My tub looks fabulous!

It is a solvent so that makes sense! Thank you for helping me stumble onto this use for the turpentine. I still am going to wait for awhile before imbibing on it, and maybe I will order that organic brand from Georgia!



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