Apple Cider Vinegar and Baking Soda Tonic Health Benefits

Is it safe for infants to take this?

Rob,

I've always heard that you never give honey to young children. I'm not sure what the age limit is. I have no idea what the effect of vinegar or baking soda is on children but with regards to honey and corn syrup, I got the following information from a renown internet medical site. It says that both honey and corn syrup are potential sources for infant botulism. You might want to check with your pediatrician.

Hello Ted,
I read on dr Hoover's site that baking soda as well as vinegar is toxic and should not be used. Can you please expound on why that may be true?

Lisa can you provide a link to Dr. Hoover's website. There are a number of Dr. Hoover websites and I did not find any that said vinegar and baking soda are toxic. One of the only times Ted advices against alkalizing remedies, such as raw, organic apple cider vinegar and baking soda is "... In stage IV cancer, the use of oral alkalizing remedies may be counter productive, as they tend to accelerate cachexia, the inability to digest the food. "
Source: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/lupus_questions.html

Also raw, organic apple cider vinegar (ACV) is alive (living nutrients, good bacteria, and enzymes) and has the benefits. The pasteurized apple cider vinegar is said to be dead (stripped of nutrients) and possibly toxic to the body.
Source: http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/the-benefits-of-apple-cider-vinegar

And lastly, diluted ACV is beneficial long-term. I recommend rinsing with plain water after drinking even diluted ACV. Adding the baking soda further helps alkalize ACV and save the body's bicarbonates from having to do the job. Undiluted ACV or excess of any ACV may hurt the tooth enamel and digestive tract.
Source: http://altmedicine.about.com/od/applecidervinegardiet/a/applecidervineg_2.htm

Excess amounts like 8 ounces of ACV a day over time could possible be linked to osteoporosis and low potassium but the alkalizing remedies here are modest, only 2 tspns to 2 tablespoons 1-3 times a day and only for 3-5 days a week. If you already have low potassium levels or osteoporosis, check with a naturopath doctor if you plan to use ACV long-term. Otherwise, use ACV modestly as outlined in this website and as added precaution, keep a healthy diet of fresh vegetables (and fruits) which are naturally high in potassium and avoid excess processed, acidic, common salt high foods and beverages which can throw off potassium and calcium levels.
Source: http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-816-APPLE CIDER VINEGAR.aspx?activeIngredientId=816&activeIngredientName=APPLE CIDER VINEGAR

Ted please help :Really hungry veggies and avacado not giving me protein I need or carbs :Savere Candida Here: Cant digest protein, hurts like heck. Does baking soda stop digestion ? One of the posts here says it does and can cause some disease?WHat protein CAN I eat , and how long after I eat it, do I wait to take the baking soda. Also , I started to do the Apple Cider Vinegar and baking soda and was reading that it will hurt the enamal on my teeth. This sucks because I have very little to begin with. Do I stop taking it ? Also bumps on the back of tongue are large , is this bad? Much Love Ripple

Ripple be careful misquoting posts, there was an earlier post that said some CANCER patients may lose appetite with baking soda, you've got candida not cancer. To protect your enamel dilute the vinegar before drinking, drink water after. Use a straw. As was mentioned by posters already, lots love.

I realize this is an old topic now, but for any future readers, in reference to what a poster asked about Dr. Hoover saying Baking Soda is toxic for infants is wrong. And not only wrong, but it's the complete opposite, It is the primary ingredient in Gripe Water formulas, to reduce acid reflux specifically for infants. I don't know about the ACV, and I'm sure in large doses Baking Soda can be bad, but this just makes me not want to go to Dr. Hoover for questions.

Too much of anything is a bad thing. High intakes of coffee are said to do the same thing that this says ACV does in high quantities. Coffee drank in excess is also said to strip the body of potassium, calcium and be toxic to the body but there is nobody warning us not to drink it any more. The key to anything is moderation.

Lower your pH? Do you mean raise? The lower the pH the more acidic, alkaline is higher, so alkalinizing is raising your pH.

@ D from Jamaica Plains, Ma:

You are ignorant of the topic you are speaking of. Many people have cured cancer with baking soda and molasses in fact if you google "baking soda and molasses" you will find videos from one man that did it.

Baking Soda with ACV had also helped many people. There is a question about the carbon dioxide being ingested but most people drink more in a soft drink than they do in a glass of ACV and Baking Soda.

People drink softdrinks everyday doing damage to their body due to the acidty and sugar and chemicals.

But Baking Soda & ACV actually alkalizines the body and ACV has potassium in it. And salt does not lead to high blood pressure, dehydration leads to high blood pressure and can be cured with adequate water and magnesium. Salt is natural sea salt is good for you.

The main difference in ACV is whether or not it is organic, I personally would not drink any that is not organic. It may cost a little more but your health is worth the investment.

The BRAGG brand is one that is well known and trustworthy. And, there may be others, but I'm sure you can google organic ACV and come up with a number of places to get it and pick the best price.

Its not about the taste. Its if you want to be healthy or not. So I'd say, no. Juice is juice and Apple Cider Vinegar is Apple Cider Vinegar.

I wondered about that combination. I use this to clean my drains. The way it boils up, I would think it could suffocate a person if regurgitated.

Delores, usually you are using much less baking soda than ACV and you would wait until the fizzing stops, before adding water/honey/whatever, and drinking it. Even so, you will probably get a good burp later, but nothing dangerous!

I can not stand when people are snarky. If you had concerns against be genuine say why. I looked up your link and read it. For future reference I'd suggest you slow down when you read because you missed the "despite widespread use of oral bicarbonate, LITTLE DOCUMENTED TOXICITY HAS OCCURRED, and the emergency medical literature contains NO reports of toxicity caused by the ingestion of baking soda. The case and effects being discussed were a possible result of EXCESSIVE oral intake of bicarbonate. And since you apparently can't understand what that means...it means taking too much at one time..not 2 to 3 tb couple times a day some days a week were talking like 1/2cup a day or such. Grow up.

Infants are not to have honey until age 1 as it can cause botulism.

I think the original poster was asking if they could substitute half of the water for apple juice, not substitute the ACV with apple juice.

Marcia B, Hi, You can make a Cabbage Juice Tonic.

1/4 organic green cabbage

1 Tablespoon sea salt (not regular table salt)

1/4 Cup whey

Filtered water (makes 2 quarts)

If you do not have or know how to make whey just double the salt.

Shred cabbage finely, and pound gently until the liquid comes out. Place cabbage & liquid in 2-quart jar with rest of ingredients, tight lid (canning jars are great) and let sit at room temp ( high 60's to mid 70's) for 2 - 5 days. Open lid to burp everyday, this is important as the gases of the ferment build up. After 2 days taste to see if you like it and let sit long if you need to until you like the taste. Remember this is not like coleslaw. However it is addicting, and good for you. So is beet kvass.

Information from Nourishing Traditions by Sally Fallon

I have been drinking a solution of baking soda, Braggs apple cider vinegar and vitamin C daily for nearly ten years - DAILY!

I am 59 years old and am as healthy as you can get.

I eat right, take good nutrition supplements and vitamins and workout twice weekly.

I look 45-ish.

I have experienced absolutely no problems or issues with my solution - EVER, including enamel, toxicity, or any of the other potential side effects mentioned.

My research regarding baking soda and vinegar solution, at times are diametrically different of what the doctor you mentioned has stated in his findings, including those with late stage cancer.

Of course, everyone is different and each of our bodies sometimes reacts differently to certain treatments. There may be variations in how individuals react to the treatment based on their individual illness and how the curative process works, and how your body reacts as it cures itself. Don't let those physiological reactions be confused with negative or threatening side effects. All in all, there should be little difference of the life-sustaining effects this has on each one of us.

You may mix it with anything you want. But, there's a reason water is critical.

Water has oxygen which the body also thrives on, obviously.

We don't get enough oxygen.

Cancer cells hate oxygen!

Aside from the many other benefits water(oxygen) provides the body. I was told as a child we are supposed to drink 8 eight ounce glasses of water daily.

There was a reason why we were told that.

Apple juice, or any other beverage might taste better, but the objective here is not pleasure but life sustaining.

How much of each do you use for your drink? water baking soda & acv? thanks?

I use 1/2 teaspoon baking soda, 1 tablespoon ACV, in 6-8 oz of water every morning.

Disease cannot exist/thrive in an oxygenated/alkaline environment. And potassium balances the dehydrating effects of sodium.

A baby should not have honey until 12 months old. Honey may contain Clostridium botulinum spores which can lead to botulism poisoning.

The baking soda cocktail that I drink is made up of water, bs, stevia, and lime..mixed to taste. It tastes like lime soda pop, except better. A couple of other things: it is better to mix bs in last and drink immediately so that the co2 is assimilated into the body, not the air. Co2 is good for us. Oxygen levels are dependent on co2 levels.

Also bs is a systemic hydrater, the best hydrater, as shown by research. Better than saline. A person's own taste/intuition is the best judge of what's good for them, and if bs, lime and stevia tastes better than bs/acv, then it is better.

I wanted to ask you why is it that on some instructions it is advised to add table salt to the solution of ACV and Baking Soda. What would be the benefit in doing so especially for conditions dealing with the kidneys?

Earth, whatever answers you get here on EC, make sure you use real salt, not white table salt.c

Salt does lead to high BP. You need to check facts before you post. Salt leads to fluid retention which raises the BP.

I read a lot, and in Dr.Batmanghelidj books on water and salt I learned that if your body determines it has a salt shortage it will store any salt you eat so it can regulate your electrolytes for your heart and brain. Table salt is bad for you, natural salts are not but if you are salt starved and you eat salt your blood pressure will sky rocket as your body hoards that salt...so I advise as you increase salt a bit, drink more water to balance it out and move your body . Also read the watercure site for further education on this topic.

Alicia, Salt is not just salt. Table salt commonly known a iodized sodium chloride. Is the devil to health.

On the other hand. Sea salt Celtic Sea Salt and others are therapeutic and healthy. Providing trace minerals to the body aiding digestion, heart, bones, organ health.

Sodium forms of supplement powders are often the first choice for those of us that buy powders and make our supps.

Sodium bicarbonate is often the star of the health show at our house.

Sodium ascorbate is our choice for c supplementation

Sodium tetraborate is our choice for supplementing boron, removing fluoride. Hormone balancing, it is the foundation.

This list could be pages long. But removing the correct salt from the diet can be at the least, counterproductive to healing. To outright deadly.

Here is one chapter of sea salt information and it's properties from Ted here on E.C.

Janet

https://ted.earthclinic.com/remedies/sea_salt11.html

Hi Alicia, an eye opening and informative read was 'Your body's many cries for water' also called the water cure, should be called saltwater cure. More people need to understand that REAL salt like sea, Celtic, Himalayan etc are good for you, containing 80+ minerals, h20, (yes really) and make your body alkaline, whereas that stuff we were told to take, the iodized salt, has had all those minerals removed, to increase shelf life, and is acidic to your body. Every cell in the body (millions) require salt and water. Putting salt *real of course, 1/4 tsp in my water daily means my body retains the water, it is not being urinated out constantly my body is able to use it. When somebody says something that sounds skeptical I research and make my own conclusions. Btw I intend to reduce my husband's blood pressure, which absolutely nothing has helped, with salt. My best to you and all ECer's, who have helped me

Good for you. You may also want to try extra magnesium - there is one type specific for cardiac issues. Most of us are deficient in magnesium in the US and there is a direct link to high blood pressure if you don't have enough magnesium in your diet.

Great comment. I agree with you!

I know that when you mix baking soda (Sodium Hydrogen Carbonate) with ACV (acetic acid) you get a neutralisation reaction of water plus Sodium Acetate. How and/or what does the sodium acetate do to provide the benefits to the body that are being claimed here? Thanks.

sodium free baking-soda i'd simply like to know where i can buy "sodium free baking-soda". i looked all weekend and couldn't find it anywhere. thanks.

I think this might work well, but just be aware of the high sodium content and stop immediately if your blood pressure goes up.

● each tablet contains: potassium 135 mg

● each tablet contains: sodium 309 mg

● Alka-Seltzer Gold in water contains principally the antacids sodium citrate and potassium citrate

Source: https://www.drugs.com/otc/224428/alka-seltzer-gold.html

Regarding: "now I have achiness all over... Joint popping and low back pain continue to come and go. Thinking I have a yeast issue and am looking for answers on this site... help?! "

Hello. If you do have yeast overgrowth, that could be the reason you are feeling achy all over. It's one of those things where, at least temporarily, the cure often feels worse than the problem. ACV helps with yeast overgrowth - at least it does for me. That means the nasty bacterias are dying off, and they release poisons as they die off, temporarily making you feel worse.

It helps to keep track of what you are eating, when, etc. Then, to do purposeful things, when you can, such as eating a good portion of jalapenos, garlic or some other food known for killing bad bacteria in your body. If, after you eat it, you feel much worse (all the way to being extremely gassy, breaking out with rashes, having diarrhea, feeling vomitious) and then, a few hours later, you feel better than you did before, it is a good indication that yeast overgrowth is your problem.

I read that in one of those books like The Yeast Connection. I tried it. It proved true for me.

Also, the joint popping and pain could be a result of your body having reduced stress upon it after an extended period of suffering.

When I was going through my divorce, so I was even more stressed out than usual, I actually lost height due to muscular tension, and when my health began to approve, I had lots of joint popping. In fact, one time, my chest cracked so loud it sounded like someone shot a gun!

You have to keep paying attention to your overall experience, take notes to help you remember, and try different things, such as purposeful stretching. If your back pops more after the stretching, then, a release of tension is probably the cause.

I found Callanetics to be incredibly helpful, when I can get time to do it. That was what I was doing, around the time when my body really started popping and I gained my height back.

Of course, it's always best to have a doctor and consult with them; but, if you feel better, most of the way, these are probably just side effects of getting better.

GSE (grapefruit seed extract) is, by the way, a great thing to add, in liquid form, to liquid soaps and shampoos, to help with dandruff and rashes that might result from yeast overgrowth. Also helps if you have that "just can't get clean" feeling. You want to use a very small amount, as too much might irritate nerve endings. A small amount mixed with toothpaste or baking soda/hydrogen peroxide can help get rid of bad breath and thrush, too.

GSE in liquid form is best for mouth, throat, external applications. In capsule form, it is more useful in the belly. In pill form, it works better for the intestines. Just eating grapefruit, especially if you eat the bitter white part that clings to the fruit and the seeds, can be very beneficial in the process of rebalancing your body, though.

I've been reading a lot of comments but I'm still confused on what kind of baking soda to use aluminum free or just regular house baking soda?

EC: Hi Becky,

All brands of baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) are aluminum free. It is baking powder that contains aluminum. However, a company came out a few years ago and called their baking soda "Aluminum Free Baking Soda" for marketing purposes, leading to much consumer confusion.

Brands like Arm & Hammer are indeed aluminum free. In fact, one of Earth Clinic's readers verified this with the company in 2008. You can find the post in our baking soda section!

A study published by The Bioscience, Biotechnology and Biochemistry Journal said that drinking apple cider vinegar for three months causes a significant decline in body weight, abdominal fat, waist circumference, and triglycerides. This can be consumed with baking soda. But it would start showing results over time and is no quick fix.

Do you have measurements of how much ACV and baking soda to mix together?

Hi Can you let me know how old are your boys? I have a 3 year old girl who has persistent cough and constipation.I am thinking this may help her.

Not sure if I mixed correctly.. 3Tbsp Apple Cider Vinegar with 1Tbsp baking soda.. It fizzed a lot.. Added a lil honey.. I only got a few sips down.. Then my heart raced and pounded strongly.. Is this normal?.. Did I mix correctly?

Is it safe to mix apple cider vinegar and Baking soda with water and lemon juice?

Try two teaspoons of ACV and 1/2 tsp of BS to 6 or 8 oz of water.

I did take Apple Cider Vinegar for awhile my BP it's down but I researched that Apple Cider Vinegar long-term may give the bone problem. the Apple Cider Vinegar & potassium. what you think?

Organic ACV at 1-3 Tblsp daily for life will never cause bone problems, but will provide many benefits. There is a lot involved in elevated BP and knowing nothing of your health profile, I can't comment on anything involving cardiac status, etc. It is a well-researched and documented fact that K+ (potassium) serves to lower BP. Adult recommended dose is approx 4500 mg daily, but you need to balance this with increased salt intake. Look into adding Magnesium and the overall balancing of your mineral profile (plenty of info on the web) as well as improving diet, lowering stress, doing some self-care to bring your body into balance. Best to you.