Dear Ted, Ive got myself VERY worried reading all the ACV posts and yours to add bicarb soda. Whenever I did that I was severely ill. I have low stomach acid, addisons and too much ca & mg in tissues and ca blocking arteries. I thought any one of those could explain the EXTRA pain to what I normally have & the nausea by adding bicarb. BUT if I dont Im making myself more acidic. And my saliva & urine show up as being very acidic. Now Im thinking I shouldnt take it at all & I'll miss out on all the benefits everyone talks of. Also the vit c I take - the only one I could find without ca just ascorbate. Is that making me too acidic also?
Vancouver, B.c. Canada
First time I ever tried Apple Cider Vinegar and bs I loved it, it cleaned my whole system completely out also for many years and because of this fungal virus I have had the hardest time moving my bowels, but after using Apple Cider Vinegar and bs I won't be needing other remedies. I will be taking a rest after this long bout of cleaning house, soon I will be back on the journey of Apple Cider Vinegar and bs again for more complete cleaning of my system. I also use it with my kitten I found in the street almost dead, I found one thing she had was internal parasites and very high acidic invironment and Apple Cider Vinegar did the trick, she is well strong and thriving.
Can I mix up ACV & B.S. In say 1 litre of water for a whole day or does it have to be done just before I use it? joyce
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Can I continue my 1oz of Apple Cider Vinegar a day and begin taking a tsp of Baking Soda mixed in 8oz of water? I realize these two substances when combined create a volcano but I was going to ingest them 12 hours apart. Will they still have their individual positive effects or will they essentially cancel each other out?
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Hello & may I say that this site is a g-dsend!
If I read one of the posts correctly, do I understand that adding Bicarb of Soda to ACV can rob the body of potassium? If that's the case, could Potassium Bicarb be added instead of Sodium Bicarb?
Keep up the good work.
I noticed some people in their posts talk of adding baking soda to their daily ACV. What exactly is the reason for adding baking soda to apple cider vinegar. How does it benefit the body?
1. Thank you for Thieves Oil. My printer cooperated and I now have a hard copy.
2. Today I actually measured things and found that 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda does not get the apple cider vinegar up to 7. It is below 6.8 which is the lowest on the scale. I tried it twice and it was the same. What to do? Thanks if you know something.
hello and thanks for the great information on this website. I'm trying to deal with my sleeping problems and want to try the ACV and baking soda... can it be mixed with orange juice? I have already been taking the ACV with orange juice, it tastes better. Is it ok to mix with baking soda though? Thanks so much.... Pilarcita
I'm curious if ACV and baking soda can be mixed ahead of time, instead of measuring and mixing the two together 3 times a day? Thanks!
EC: Ted mentioned in one of his Q&A posts that apple cider vinegar and baking soda should NOT be pre-mixed.
Sure hope you can settle this for me. I'm sure I am way to acid to be healthy after having read all the things acidity causes. I was all set to go get apple cidar vinegar and baking soda but than I read a post by someone back in 2007 which scared me, Should I be taking this with the 3 medications I'm on to control the blood pressure? I'm 61 and would love to have more energy, lose 20 pounds and relieve the joints. Thanks in advance for your response.
Hobbs, Nm, Usa
i cannot stand the taste of apple cider vinegar baking soda. I have tried adding honey and cranberry apple juice. Any ideas ?
EC: Check the apple cider vinegar recipes page for more ideas: http://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/acv_recipes.html
Fort Madison, Ia
Sanford, Fl, USA
I am confused. I have been drinking ACV daily, and now I am reading that you should mix baking soda with it too. Can you please explain the difference? Thanks.
Atlantic City, New Jersey
Last year I was usng the apple cider vinegar - 1/4 tsp baking soda, and then began raw vegetable juices. I think that those who say that acv with baking soda gives them a stomach ache is because they do not wait a half hour-1 hour before having any food. This would cause the bubbling in the stomach which normally happens when the acv is added to the baking soda.
Dr. Jarvis states that sometimes a person also needs iodine from kelp, and recommends 2 tsp acv be taken with Lugol's solution in a glass of water (Or half-glass water.) One can also take kelp tablets or sprinkle dulse flakes on salads.
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I am posting this question for commentary from informed readers and Ted.
First of all, I am NOT an expert, and all my knowledge is really just based on what I've read. I have been grappling with the issue of whether combining ACV & Baking Soda diminishes its effectiveness in any way in the body. I've read practically all the comments on the Earthclinic website related to this in great detail. A nagging suspicion in my gut tells me that taking ACV with baking soda is NOT the same as taking ACV and/or baking soda alone. Unfortunately, I don't have enough expertise or knowledge to put together a plausible thesis; and all my exhaustive research has NOT provided me a convincing answer yet. Therefore, I am merely positing a hypothesis for question/commentary from informed readers.
Here it goes. My gut feel, and based on whatever information I can gather, taking ACV with Baking Soda (or Lime with Baking Soda), is probably NOT the same as taking either of those alone. The body needs to break down complexed minerals (such as sodium ascorbate, magnesium citrate, etc.) into ions before they can be absorbed. Therefore, when you react ACV with baking soda, that is no different than taking a complexed mineral of sodium acetate and sodium malate, together with whatever else might be in the ACV. Now, does the body absorb the sodium malate and sodium acetate the same way as it would the acetic acid and malic acid to be found in ACV alone? How easily does the sodium malate or sodium acetate breakdown in the body for absorption vs. just taking the ACV alone? That's the question? My nagging suspicion is that the body doesn't treat them the same way, in which case the effectiveness of ACV would get diminished by combining it with Baking Soda.
I understand Ted's point that the body is going to neutralize the acids anyways with its mineral buffers. But what comes first? Does the body absorb the malic acid and acetic acid first before neutralizing? If so, then is sodium malate or sodium acetate correspondingly harder to absorb by the body b/c it has to be broken down and ionized first?
I was reading Tim O'Shea's online book on how minerals get absorbed in the body (http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/minerals/Minerals.shtml). He says that acidic state is necessary for ionization of complexed minerals. In other words, for a sodium malate to breakdown into ionic sodium and malate to be absorbed by the body. I quote from his online book "If the pH is too alkaline, the ions won't disassociate from whatever they're complexed with, and will simply pass on through to the colon without being absorbed." So, my question is, does most of the ACV when combined with baking soda just gets passed through the body without getting absorbed? Is an ACV absorbed better by the body when it is by itself? If you want to alkalize, while also get the benefit from drinking ACV or limes, then is it better then to just take them separately some hours apart?
Also, I have read in many places that the absorption rate of complexed minerals is only about 1 - 20%, i.e., rather low. As per Tim O'Shea and others I have read, minerals get absorbed by two ways. (1) The body needs them in which case it sends protein messengers/transporters to the lining of the gut wall to absorb that particular mineral. (2) Diffusion. So, if your body doesn't need sodium, say for example, then is it just going to ignore the sodium malate or sodium acetate? In that case, would the malic and acetic acids in ACV alone be better absorbed by the body?
Since modern science/information can be so corrupted, one thing I am learning to do whenever presented with a remedy, etc is to ask how this might have been done several thousand years ago, when perhaps things were less corrupted. Although I could be totally wrong, I don't imagine our ancestors and the Ayurveda folks mixing ACV with Baking Soda. They probably drank the ACV or baking soda alone.
On another note, I have tried ACV with Baking Soda for about 10 days now. I don't feel much effect, other than getting my urinary PH in the above 7 range. If the sodium malate and sodium acetate are simply getting passed through into the urine, surely they would make the urine PH alkaline. My salivary PH is still in the 6.25 range, which is another whole issue that I need to figure out. (I am scared of one of Ted's commentaries in one of these postings that suggested that a urinary ph higher than salivary is indicative of fungus or cancer. I am 35 years old, and believe I have Candida). This is another reason that made me really think hard about ACV & Baking Soda b/c I didn't feel that this remedy was alkalizing my salivary PH, therefore, I was wondering if it's just passing through in the urine? I am vegetarian, and have been trying to include more fruits and vegetables recently. So, I don't think I have a potassium deficiency issue per se.
I know that that the ACV and Baking Soda remedy has been tried by numerous readers with great success. Therefore, I am merely positing this inquiry in an effort at greater understanding, rather than pretending to know what I am talking about.
Many thx, and I look forward to engaging more with the Earthclinic community!
Madison, United States
San Pedro, CA
Houston, Texas USA
Sierra Vista, AZ
I have read on your site for the past hour and suddenly I had and epiphany. I am now in my late 70's'; but I vividly remember my Grandmother would fix us "Soda" whenever we would go on picnic's, Swimming or other outdoor activities. She even sent this "Cocktail" to Grandpa and the farmhands for "Vesper" in the early pm.