Borax and Peroxide Scalp Treatment
I have scabies which spread to my scalp and would like to try the saturated borax and hydrogen peroxide treatment on my scalp. Please tell me what amount of saturated borax is mixed with the peroxide. I would appreciate the measurements for all the ingredients i.e., saturated borax, peroxide and water. Also, how long does it stay on? I would like to keep it on my scalp overnight. Please advise...thank you.
Borax Bath, Bleach Bath
Yes you can see the scabies!! After the Doctor telling us over and over that our son was bathing too much, the water was too hot, he used too much soap and was drying out his skin, we finely went to another doctor and got the result we didn't want to hear- scabies! He has had them for at least 3 months so after doing research we opted for the borax bath. The first bath we could see tiny light brown flakes floating on top of the water and ignored it. The next day we did the chlorine free bleach bath and again the brown flakes but also tiny black dots with a semi clear body now I had to take a closer look! After looking at it under a loop it was a BUG and larva.
So you people out there saying they can't be seen are wrong and the chlorine bath not only brought out the bugs but the larva so we're staying with that. After the bath we are using Tea tree oil mixed half & half with olive oil all over the body to discourage the little monsters from attaching to our skin. Good luck to you all, I'll post if the oil works and we don't have to sanitize our whole house.
Camille; I am totally at wits ends here, it started out with my cat having scabs all over her body also red spots and itching constantly, I came here thinking it was mange and treated her as such with great results for over eight months, now these mites are back even worse also getting closer to her eyes and because of so many treatments she is severely stressed out. Now I find my husband has the same red spots and itching on the back of his neck at the hair line, I too am itching along with my two dogs, it's like a zoo here lol I finally brought my cat to the vets after all these months only to find he says she has allergies I said I think not these were contagious, he wanted to give her steroids; I said nothing abrasive thanks....... That stupidity cost me over a hundred dollars I could not afford. I'm wondering how abrasive it would be for a small cat? if any one might know the answer please send me an answer, I would appreciate the input. Thanks every one that contributes any info. Peace.
Borax, Boric Acid, Washing Soda
i had scabies but i think there gone for good i think i found a cure
im going to be point blank
its borax, boric acid, super washing soda, very strong be careful, and dish washing liquid, buy the popular brands of dish washing liquids they are strong so watch out
i suggest taking baths and making up spray bottles
the scabies should die fast
it worked for me
start in the bath with no more than a quarter cup of one
boric acid 2 tbl
the popular brands of dishwashing liquid are strong so be careful
my eyes turned red
(Rockville, Md. Usa)
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Citrus Soap
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide and citrus-based dish soap:
This is similar to others, but it's real good if you've been having a hard time getting rid of those things even with the borax/hydrogen soak. Here's what you do:
wash/dry on hot all lining.
* Mix 1 part borax and 8 parts hydro-proxide.
* wipe down all pillows/mattress using a wash cloth and borax/hydro mix.
* sprinkle borax on carpet. leave on carpet until scabies is 100% cured.
* mix 1 part borax, 1 part citris dish soap, 1 part water in a bucket.
* take a shower. Stop the shower and use a wash cloth to scrub yourself with the borax/citris mix neck to toe(no running water or sitting in water, just your damp self). leave on for 10-20 minutes or as long as you can stand it - it will sting and it will leave your skin very dry.
* wash borax/citrus mix off and finish your shower.
* replace lining and go to bed.
* wake up and apply borax/hydro mix to all areas of your skin that still itch. let it mixture dry on you.continue to do this throughout the day as needed.
* repeat all steps until all those creatures die.
IT WILL WORK.
(Las Galeras , Dominican Republic)
I am writing to thank you! I and my boyfriend has Scabies, He had it very badly and I had only a little of it, because I followed your directions! I never took a remedy from a pharmacy! He did take the pills and use the cream, but that DID NOT really work for him, he was reinfected after using the pharmacy remedy, only when I arrived with the Borax and citrus soap did we finally get COMPLETELY CURED and we have seen nothing since.
We also covered the mattresses with plastic bags and spayed prior with anti-parasite spray from France, but the black plastic bags worked wonders, used gloves to cover them.
We put just about all of our clothes in plastic bags and put them away and we did not reuse anything for almost one month/few weeks (luckily we have many clothes).
I want to share what really did work though. After my boyfriend was reinfected the situation was fa worse for him. It looked like a real mess, then I came and we used the Borax (with a hot bath as best we could since in the Caribbean there is not hot water) as a scrub to scrub of all of the tops of the sores even on penis and it hurt him but it surely got rid of the eggs. I read in the Paul Pitchford Healing with Whole Foods book to cook the Borax with oil and we made a remedy which was still really a scrub and after the bath we applied it to every single sore and left it sit there for a few hours. After we removed this we put on Orange Oil and Tee Tree oil that I bought in Philadelphia PA. Then we let it sit and I swear that within 2 days ALL SORES WERE GONE LIKE A MIRACLE>
and ORANGE & TEE TREE OIL
I was never fully infected with any sores, because I did hot baths when I returned to Philly for a short time - when I came back his situation was one month worse than before... if I didn't find this site I would have been infected and he would not have gotten better!
Use the BORAX to SCRUB THE SORES AND THEN MAKE A PASTE WITH a light cooking of olive (or any oil) not a long cooking just to mix then apply to sores and leave on few hours follow with the oils, be careful.
I HATE SPIDERS and I was FREAKING OUT! Don't worry YOU TOO CAN GET THROUGH THIS with Borax!!!
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Clove Oil
I would like to thank everyone with their experience's and recommendation's. I have had this rash for approx. 10 days. I went to the ER to discover my worst fear, Scabies. I work at a Hotel and think I contracted this nasty disease there. My husband does not have any signs of the pest as of yet. After reading what permethrin is and what it can cause, and how effective it is, I became very, very scared. Apparently permethrin "use" to work but because the mites are insects and their life cycle is so short they have built up a immune to this toxic they are calling a drug.
After reading ALL posts in this forum I decided to try Borax w/H2O2. I made my bath with very hot water and added a cup of each and soaked for approx. 20 minutes. In a matter of minutes my skin stopped itching. My infestation is severe. I have a rash across my abdomen, my chest my entire back, buttocks elbows, inside and out.. Upper arms, upper things and back of my knees. I actually sat in the tub crying because I actually felt relief for the first time in 2 weeks. This disease has taken its toll on me, depriving me of sleep as many of you already know how it keeps us awake at night.
Once my skin air dried My husband applied the clove oil ( we mixed it with mineral oil, and he mixed it way to strong as it burned to the point I needed to wash it off) He is at the store now to buy more mineral oil. Its been an hour since my bath and I am itch free, my rash has even lightened up in color to a pinkish, instead of RED.
He sprinkled the Borax on the carpet (we removed our dog and cat).. Letting it sit for an hour and then vacuum it thoroughly. We plan on bleaching everything we can once he returns home, washing all bed linens and clothing.
I plan on keeping an update to this forum on my battle of this nasty pest. I hope my post provides testimony to anyone who is skeptical of using non-prescribed treatments.
Thank you again to all who posted this remedies, and god bless.
Hi everyone. I want to first state that it seems everyone has different outcomes with their treatment of scabies. I used the Borax/H2O2 bath soaks for 4 days with no improvement of my rash. It got worse. The itching was relieved for approx. 4-6 hours after the bath soaks, but the rash continued to spread down my arms and legs and up my neck. On the 4th day we decided to try permethrin. That was yesterday. Today my rash is still visible but with great improvement. Nearly all redness is gone ( except in the severe areas) and most of the itch is gone as well. My skin feels like sandpaper where the bumps are but looks let irritated. I plan on using the second dose of perm in 7 days as directed on my script. I will update my post if anything has changed. I hope my post will help someone, anyone who is battling with this infliction.
(California City, Ca)
I waited to Post untill I was Healed.. BORAX & HYDROGEN PEROXIDE was the Key to Cure.... I went to the Doctor and he gave me Pemerthrin Cream & a strong antibiotic for staff infection. It helped but did not completly cure. I dusted my bed and couch & chair and Drivers Seat of the Car with Boric Acid and took evening Hot Baths in a plam full of Twentymule Team Borax & 1/2 cup of Hydrogen Peroxide after a few weeks... The bumps I was still getting was not from mites any more but reaction to the borax so I slowly went from a handfull of borax to the bath to a teaspoon to zero.. After a few weeks of no borax bath & the last of the bumps went away and I was healed. I learned that the reaction to the Pemerthrin & Borax on the skin is the similar symptons as the scabies ( But not as near as bad you can live with it )... You do have to finally stop all treatments and give the skin time to heal... The whole scabies journey was the most horrible situation I have ever experienced in my life.. For those that are scratching while reading this there is a way to sanity again: Borax & Hydrogen Preoxide Hot Baths every evening and you will get healed.... God Bless!
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Coconut Oil
WOW at first I thought you guys were trying to see what weird crap you could get us dummys to put on ourselves. And then I got desperate at 3:00 in the morning and ran to pick up Borax, hyrd prox, and coconut oil. Oh and I got a strawberry/banana smoothie for my pain and suffering. I followed ya'lls instructions for the bath and afterward rubbed the coconut oil on. My skin looked immediately better, but I started feeling things crawl on my toes and then a few bites so I then squirted the clorox/water mixture all over my bed, around my bed on the side of the box springs and on the carpet and on me. I feel like I am at war with a micro organizm that I can not even see. I have never heard of coconut oil and what I bought was in the baking isle and looks like crisco but a taller narrower can. I thank you all for sharing your advice. I tried the apple cider vinegar first, it burned like a sun of a gun. And all they did was multiply. So, harmful or not, it seems to be working as I am not itching right now and honestly as much as I hate to hear the side affects of any medicine because then I feel like I have to make a choice of which problem will be the bigger headache, I AM SO FREAKING GLAD TO NOT BE ITCHING RIGHT NOW! I am going to snuggle up to my clorox bottle and put on my battle uniform of Pjs on and hopefully get a good night sleep thanks to all of yall!!!! So if anyone reads this and is hestitant, as God is my witness... It works!!!!! Maybe now I will get enough rest to fight this battle and win!!!
How to get rid of scabies/mites. I had a bad attack, with bites all over. I went to the chemist who gave me a cream to put all over my body after a shower and leave on for 24 hours, but still had the crawling sensation. A cleaning guru in Australia had mentioned that orange juice is a cure for head lice, so I bought an orange and washed myself with it (undiluted) including my hair. I haven't had a bite since. If I felt 'something' I bought some roll on personal insect spray and rolled it all around where the sensation was, because I was so badly bitten there would have been extra mites hanging around. Have not been bitten in 2 days. Apparently it's the citrus juice - it gets right under your skin. Grapefruit and lemon juice are apparently better.
I broke out about 3 weeks ago, just because my nephew sat on my rocking chair then left with his father, only to find out that he had scabies. I never knew anything about scabies till I got it and saw the symptoms, itching around ankles, elbows wrists, inner thighs, stomach (which I found out on the computer) so I went to the doctor after 3 days of scratching, and yes I used the cream, once a week for 2 weeks, the first time I thought I was cured because their was relief for 5 days but started scratching for the next 2 days then I used it again (as per doctors instructions) but it got worse, I couldn't stand the itch and I looked at my skin and there were burrows everywhere.
So I came on here and decided to do the bleach and water, hot shower first then sprayed and it was burning for a little bit on the rashed up areas but would go away after being totally drenched in it, but I was ok and I washed it off in hot water after 10mins (I know this is way too quick but tomorrow will be longer) as I did this at 2am and need to get to bed. The results are amazing, no scratching no crawly feelings and I blow dried myself instead of using a towel, I will be carrying this bottle everywhere I go and I have even thrown everything that I have worn and slept on in the machine with bleach and hot water and putting it in the dryer, big house cleaning will be next and I will be throwing out the mats, covering furniture with plastic so it is easy to clean (after I spray it) then I will be visiting my brother and nephews and I will be spraying them too or they will not be allowed back in my house.
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Noxzema
I want to start by saying I believe I got it from my dog. I have read numerous sites that say you cannot catch it from your pet but I do NOT believe it. My dog started losing its fur, and scratching herself bloody. After two trips to the vet, they said she had allergies. About two weeks after her itching began, so did mine. The vet prescribed various creams, pads, medicines, and special food to help with her "allergies. " As her itching got worse, so did mine so I began using Benedryl spray, cream and many other "itch-relief" medicines... None of which worked for very long. I was awakened every night about 2:00am with INTENSE itching. I was scratching so hard and so much, I was covered with bruises in between all of my bumps. One night I woke up with hives as well. I graduated to tea-tree oil and Noxema rubs, then after finding this site, onto Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide soaks. During this time, my dog was so miserable, she was going crazy with the itching so I took her to the NVASPCA. They diagnosed her with Mange! I went to the Dr. and got a dose of Permethrin Cream.
I did my dose of Perm a few days ago, and am now making a "scrub" on my wash rag with Lavendar soap and 1/4 Borax. Then I rinse off and squirt Hydrogen Peroxide on my wet body and dab dry. I carry Peroxide in a spray bottle and use when necessary. It does burn so I think it is working and I was at a point where burning was better than itching so I keep using it. At night, my hubby rubs me down with Noxzema, from top to bottom, with a deep massage to work it in real good. I feel I am on the road to recovery. I am sleeping through the night, and not itching as much during the day. My bumps are starting to get dry little "heads" on them. I have washed everything... HOT with Borax, and I vacuum the hell out of my carpet. I hope and pray this is it!
How to Kill Scabies: A Love Story
I got scabies after weeks thinking it was hard water from moving to the UK. It got to the point where I became suspect after developing some bumps on my penis. I thought maybe my new girlfriend had given me an STD. Went to the doctor, he thought it was Herpes but I was skeptical as I trusted her that she was telling the truth about her sexual history. I did much research and found I exhibited all the symptoms of Scabies. I went to the doctor who prescribed me a cream but turns out it was discontinued in the UK and no where to be found. I came to the US as I had some family matters to deal with and could not let this stop me. I got the cream here thank god however I have read this website back to front multiple times and thought to combine measures.
Last night was my first treatment as follows:
Hot bath in Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide, splash of listerine, body lotion, and lemon juice. The lemon juice stung like a bitch but it definitely raised all of my burrows to then dive back into the bath
I used NIX on my scalp
after the bath, I airdryed. Then, I applied the cream all over my body. when that dried, I applied a hair gel and borax paste.
Now I wait. Today, I feel allright. The bumps are red but not itchy at all. I haven't had the need to scratch since my bath but the recurrence posts and leaving me paranoid. Today I was finally able to get my hands on Clove Oil, Tea Tree Oil, and Eucalyptus Soap with Tea Tree Oil. Tonight, I plan on doing the following while scrubbing out the 24 hour cream...
hot bath with borax and hydrogen peroxide
lemon juice application
readmister bath with the soap
once airdried, applying a mix of the Clove and Tea Tree Oil mixed in with body lotion
I'll keep you all posted as to my progression here as it seems this is a battle where we as sufferers need to stick together. This shit SUCKS.
I've been trying essential oils... Just amazing. Experimenting on how to use but ingredients are: clove oil, sweet orange oil, tea tree oil, neem oil, grapeseed or coconut oil used as a base oil. Apply hand sanitizer as base then add others. The creatures come out of your skin if they're there.
I had a rash on my arm for a while and was mis-diagnosed with eczema and allergies for a while before the doctor agreed it might be scabies. The itching since spread everywhere, and two doses of Permethrin haven't made much difference. So I decided to try some oils.
I slathered castor oil all over me, and before long little black specks started coming out of my pores. Scary at first, and yes it hurts slightly, as if lots of splinters are coming out. I also got tiny, clear, round grains of hard sandy stuff, along with amber versions of the same thing, tiny egg-shaped things and larger egg-shaped things. Very disturbing indeed. I know that some people will say that this is Morgellens, but at the moment I'm choosing to believe that these are various stages of mites and their droppings and eggs. Some other websites comfirm this, and one of my GPs said that they've heard of this happening with scabies.
So I figured that it's all much better out than in and I'm continuing to do it. I'm also using olive oil or coconut oil sometimes, they seems to work too, although I'm thinking that castor oil, as a thicker oil is probably smothering the little creatures more, and I think I'm seeing slightly more stuff come out when I use it.
After doing it a few times I am feeling some relief today, (although I'm by no means cured). This could be because there is less stuff inside irritating me, or simply because my skin is more moisturised, but I'm going to continue with this because it seems to be working.
I've also tried diatomaceous earth, which didn't work, sadly, even when I mixed it with grapeseed oil. I am drinking it though, 1 tsp in water each day, but I'm not sure that drinking it is effective for scabies, which isn't a stomach-related parasite.
And bleach baths also didn't seem to do much, although they did clear some burrows under my fingernail. I was pleasantly surprised by that! But don't seem to help other than that.
I also tried hydrogen peroxide and borax mixed with water. Also didn't work. Tea tree oil provides some temporary relief, and I bought some clove oil, but I'm reallly too scared to put it on my skin, even mixed heavily with oil.
I guess different things work for different people. Will carry on with the oils and report back.
I went to the beach with my family about 2 or 3 months ago. Immediatley when we left the beach my right arm, where my elbow is or fold is, it began to burn & itch really bad. I figured I had just suffered from being sunburned. For about 2 - 3 days my arm itched like crazy and I figured it was dry/sunburned skin, so I kept putting lotion or aloe gel on the site. Until I noticed the trail inbedded under my skin. I knew it was scabies & or mites. Immediateley I changed all my bedding, clothes and made sure that I washed my hands regularly. The itching would be so bad that it would wake me every night. I couldn't stand it anymore. I dont have medical insurance to get a prescription from a doctor, so I came across this site. What a relief, I had to use household / holistic remedies to treat this. The Citrus Listerine/Mouthwash really works. I'd apply it the area, let it completly dry, then I would apply straight Orange Oil (you can get it @ health food stores for about $2-$3). I did this twice a day, if not more when needed, at night and in the morning. The itching has completley stopped, the discoloration is fading...THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for this home remedy, THIS ONE WORKS !!!! :)
Citrus mouthwash for scabies and Blk Pepper mites: Like you I have been battleing scabies for 8 long months ! Of couse I have used tons of over the counter remedys to no final avail,to be honest I sent in a remedy that in the end didn't work for me,so this time I'll just say to try it,you might like it. I heard of people using listerine for scabies and Black Pepper Mites (check about them ,they mimic scabies,you might be suffering from them instead ) I went to my brothers house to borrow listerine (next door)and all they had was Equate Citrus antiseptic mouthwash, I went home put some in a small wash basin in the tub stood in it and soaked myself from top of head to soles of feet, I let it air dry on me and it is very sticky, but low and behold black dots started popping out of my flesh!! I remembered working at a hotel where they used citrus spray for fleas and mites from peoples pets, I rinsed off before going to bed, should have left it on ,but this is the best my skin has felt in 8 months, I still have itches but very few. which I dab with the mouthwash and soak my feet each night,Wal-Mart has it in big bottles and it's cheap,don't have to tell you guys to keep up with borax in the carpets and wash and cover that mattress with plastic and clean it w/ diluted clorox,hope so much this helps someone out there.
anything citrus helps with scabies. you can use orange juice or lemon or lime juice or even better orange oil. google orange oil for scabies
Walmart sells a 100% orange oil spray. it can be found in the carpet deoderiser section.
in reference to the orange oil spray found at Walmart, I wouldn't use it with out diluting it a lot. I use it as a deoderizer, but if you spray more than just a little, it makes you cough, it's very strong. The directions warn that it can burn the skin. I believe I have scabies, and thought i would try adding a little to some to olive oil. I'm not sure how it will work.
you can buy the orange essential oil at any place that sells essential oils for very little money - around 2 or 3 dollars. then put some in a spray bottle and dilute with water and use it OR mix it with the carrier oil of your choice and use it after your bath. i have also had luck putting about 9 drops of the straight orange oil into my bath water. smells good and scabies DO NOT like it.
To Dianna from Austin, TX
Thank you for posting the orange oil remedy. I have been battling with scabies for about one year, used different remedies and cleaning and washing. I used permethrin 5% x2, recently I did 3-day sulphur cream. It seems that I'm not cured! I ordered orange oil and mixed with aloe to 10%. May you post on how many times do you apply the orange oil a day? Do you make the lotion 10% to apply on the body? and how long did it take you or your friend to get rid of it?
I put 1 1/2 bottles of ___ Citrus Mouth Wash into a tub of warm water, and soaked myself for 10 minutes, completely immersing myself from head to toe, including hair. Afterwards, I dried off with towel. No rinsing needed. Then I put generous amount of perm all over my body, and left it on for 14 hours and rinsed everything off the next morning. I also washed all my sheets and comforter and towels daily in hot water, extra hot dryer. Clothes was treated in same manner, after every wear. it's worth it, even if the clothes shrinks. REPEAT for 2 days, or 3 days if still feeling creepy crawllys.
I think I am cured, I hope I am cured. This was by far the worse thing that has happened to me, and thank god for this website, or else I wouldn't know what to do.
(Long Beach, Ca Usa)
tried citrus listerine last night. condition WORSE today. cross that one off the list. along with tea tree oil. my condition went nuclear when I tried that stuff on it.
When scabies are worse the next day after treating them. It is a sign you have disturbed their nest and they're fighting back! Think about when you step on a hornet's nest. They attack. Scabies are the same. They want you to stop putting poison on them so they go wild. Don't stop treating. Keep going!
(San Diego, Ca)
OMG, I'm not going to tell Bobby what I discovered this morning or he'll freak out and get more stressed out. He's doing fine and only has a few bites left, but I discovered this morning that I have literally THOUSANDS under my skin!!!! I'm trusting the Lord totally on all this as there must be a reason for it all. It's not true about what the doctors say and the stuff you read on those medical websites about Scabies - it's not that easy to cure. Even on the Mayo Clinic website. If you want to know the TRUTH about his stuff, go to https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/scabies.html and read all the horrible, disgusting stories of these poor people's experience with this. I posted my experience on there too and am continuing to update the process that I am following so that it might help others too. I don't want to talk on the phone about this as I don't want Bobby to overhear me.
Bobby initially got hundreds of bites just from those first initial 3 bites that he got from me while I was feeding him. But with the process I'm using to treat him, he was 50% better after the first day, then 75% better after the second day. Last night he only had a few spots left on his face. Thank God. I am wearing gloves at all times and long-sleeve shirt and long pants so I don't spread it to him. I was pretty confident that mine was nearly gone because I only had one bite left. Then this morning I decided to put the hydrogen peroxide all over my body just to see if there were any more hiding somewhere. My upper right leg showed thousands of little red spots, also both of my upper arms and front legs. I even had them on the tops of my hands! I freeked out. OMG. Prayed. Calmed down and just dealt with it. Now I realize that those bites that I could see on my skin where where the bugs initially burrowed into my skin. They stayed under my skin and burrowed all over like moles laying eggs everywhere!
So, I asked myself, why is Bobby doing so good and now I have this. These have probably been here all along without me knowing it becuase my process was a little different from his. The process I used was to put the hydrogen peroxide only on the bites, wait for about 5-10 mins - as long as I could stand the stinging/itching, then get in the hot shower, and clean up with peppermint soap, then cover my body with the non-itch formula (coconut mixed with tea tree oil and peppermint oil). Then resume my day and do the same thing in the evening. I wasn't putting the hydrogen peroxide on my entire body because I didn't SEE any bites. Also, I would wash off the hp in the shower. With Bobby being paralyzed, I could not wash his off, so I just left it on then put the co mixture on his entire body. THAT WAS IT!!!! I needed to keep the hp on my entire body and not wash it off. I took a video of my leg so I could show this to others who are going through this. So, I put the hp all over my body, took my shower, then put it all over my body again, then covered myself with the co mixture. This seems to be working better now, but won't know until tonight. If the red spots lesson, I'll know that I finally have the correct procedure to follow. If not, and it is worse, I'll need to call my doctor and ask her to prescribe the insecticide (Permethin) and just do it as much as I hate to have to resort to that stuff. What choice to I have. I also learned that you MUST treat your entire body, even your head, face, ears, private area - everywhere, because when you put the hp on, they freek out and look for a place to go where it is not on your skin!!!!! I'm praying that I won't have to use the Permithrin stuff, but I am getting desparate to get rid of thes awful, disgusing things. I will run out of sick time in about another week, so much find a way to get rid of these soon. Here's some good news. Yesterday I was so exhausted I didn't think I could make it through another night getting up every couple hours taking care of Bobby. Today I feel much stronger - thank the Lord. I also lost over 5 pounds so far with all the workout of taking care of B obby, constant cleaning/sanitizing everything in sight, etc. You can't beileve the toll this takes on a person. Please keep praying for us. Thanks.
(San Diego, Ca)
Update 8/18/2011. Just discovered last night that clove oil kills the adults, larvae, AND penetrates the eggs and kills the eggs too in less than an hour. Read the latest research on this from Australia. This was just discovered last August - go here to read about the study results http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0012079. They had a serious virilent strain of scabies that was Permithrn resistant.
My husband has been under a Dermotologist's care for 3 weeks now and he was prescribed Permithrin twice and still has only killed about 10 percent of them. Me and my son are finally getting relief from these awful things. The ratio we started with is 1 part clove oil and 3 parts coconut oil. Also, put 1/2 ounce in a spray bottle filled with water and sprayed the entire house - EVERYTHING!!! We put it on us last night and didn't feel them crawling all night, plus all day today. Tonight I notice a few, but nothing compared to the night before. I've read that when the last bite is gone and there is no more itching, you must wait 10 days after this to be considered cured. But, must keep up with keeping everything clean (new sheets every day, etc. As I indicated in my process above) for at least 3 months to prevent a reinfection. I'll keep you up to date on our progress, but for now, we are feeling like we are finally out of the worst of it! I know the Lord helped me to find the info we needed to get set free from this awful stuff, also so that I could share it with so many of you who have suffered for way to long with the disgusting stuff. God Bless!
(San Diego, Ca)
Update 8/19/11. Contining to use the clove oil. Going on third day of treatment and for me they are 85% gone, for my son, 90% gone! Thank God. Will continue this treatment until gone. Read that you are still contagious up to 10 days after the last bite is gone! Be careful. If you get infested again, just hurry and apply the clove oil treatment and it will not get very far. Keep up the cleaning for at least two more months to get all the eggs out of your house becaues they can cause reinfestation even a year later! Just read all the posts from people who have been there! Thank God we finally have a way to cure these.
My son is suffering from Scabies only on his face, neck, and head, so don't believe this OLD understanding of Scabies. Scabies in the US has become more verilent and resists many of the drugs dermatologists still prescribe. My husband has been treated with Scafbies for 3 weeks with these drugs and is only 10% cured. My son and I discovered the latest research on this in Austrailia about Clove oil, w hich kills the adults, larvae and eggs in 15 mins! But takes at least two weeks of continued treatment to get them all out of your body! Mix 1 part clove oil with 3 parts extra-virgin coconut oil (or olive oil) I'm using cococut oil because it has other needed benefits to keep the bites from becoming infected. After 3 days of treatment, I'm 80% cured and my son, who is paralyzed, is 90% cured! Thank God. Also read about other's experience with using clove oil at: http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies/THU ...
(Perth, Western Australia)
Yes I agree, I have been on another forum trialling differents treatments with different members. Even dog flea treatment which worked, but a few of us relapsed. After reading this article that another member posted
an Australian study conducted last year, we decided to give clove oil a go. We are having excellent results after 2 days. We are diluting 1 part clove oil to 3 parts grapeseed oil. Cover entire body including scalp. For genitals and, nose and eyelids we are using 1 part clove oil to 9 parts grapeseed oil as it can sting when applied. Well worth a try we have tried everything out there.
Scabies can only live 72 hours without a host. So long weekend away from house and come back they will be dead.
CLOVE OIL for scabies.
I've had scabies before, thought they were just mosquito bites at the time as I'd never heard of scabies. after a week of not going to doc or being diagnosed, the mites had a chance to multiply so it got pretty bad. finally went to doc, got permethrin cream and did that 2x, but lived in the hell of wrapping everything in plastic, not sleeping at night due to the itching, constantly laundry, etc. in between the permethrin cream dosages (a week apart, I believe), I did clove oil after doing tons of online research and learning of the australian study that said clove oil diluted kills even permethrin resistant scabies in 15 minutes. I wasn't taking any chances, so I used clove oil diluted with grapeseed oil, wasn't sure of dosage to use at the time, and still used permethrin. after 2nd treatment of permethrin (which made me feel dizzy, I later heard it's a neurotoxin and poisonous to cats but I wouldn't deter a human from using it! ) they were all gone. also was told that you couldn't get scabies from dogs, and I now know that is incorrect. Dogs can have mange, and you can get it - scabies. I am an animal caretaker.
Anyway, so that scabies was cured almost a year ago. then a few nights ago, I started itching. I knew what it was right away. it started in my pelvis, and that's where it started last time. no way in heck was I going to wait to go to doc, I knew what it was and wanted to kill those buggers ASAP. I took 100% clove oil and grapeseed oil and mixed them in a bowl- in the ratio of 3 Tablespoons grapeseed oil and one tablespoon clove oil, mixed and applied all over my body. I love the smell. I had to go to the Er for something else (really rough week ha! ) and the doc was like wow, it doesn't even look like scabies. We knew it was because of one burrow. I said, wow, maybe clove oil really did kill them all! (She also confirmed you CAN get it from dogs.) I've been applying the clove/grapseed oil mix twice a day and putting diatomaceous earth on the bed. I can't guarantee they are gone for sure, I guess I need more time to do that, but this scabies experience is nothing like last time. I am not up all night scratching, not scratching at all. I already have giant plastic bags at my house. if you want to cover your bed in plastic, get that stuff at the dollar store, save yourself some money. instead of going crazy washing everything I am just storing them in giant Ziplock bags for 3 days so the scabies dies.
Anyway you can get 100% clove oil for cheap on the internet, as well as grapeseed oil. I am always going to keep them in stock now because with all these dogs, it looks like I may be getting it a lot.
Clove oil in carrier oil works on scabies. I found this study a few years ago to confirm.
You are right about clove oil being an excellent scabicide (others work as well, such as cedar oil, and others), but what you shared about covering the bed is also important for many to understand.
When pest control companies are brought in to treat for fleas, ticks, or mange when there are dogs, one of the first things they say is to treat the area where the dog sleeps, because the parasites are there, and eggs may also be there. With humans, the same holds true: the bed must be treated (spraying with a dilute ammonia solution will definitely kill them) and covering the bed with plastic is a good precaution (as well as washing the sheets every day in hot/drying on hottest setting).
Many simply treat successfully only to reinfest themselves over and over again because they didn't pay attention to treating the bed itself, under the sheets! You have pointed out something that is vital!
Took me forever to believe a natural oil would do the trick but after spending $125 on everything everyone else said, I finally found clove bud oil in rite aid. The employees didn't even know it was there, and I also grabbed orange oil too because it smells better than what I originally mixed up. So long story short, it does kill everything including the babies. You will feel relief almost instantly. There was a time I felt like giving up and I just started crying, mind you I'm a grown man. The next day I used the clove oil and I was back to life again. It takes about a week of doing what I'm about to tell you but seriously, stop reading so many posts and go find this stuff. First, in a store like Walmart, get sulphur soap, tea tree oil, clove oil, orange oil, a spray bottle, olive oil, and unscented lotion. The soap dries out skin which mites hate. Make a lotion by adding a small bottle of clove and orange oil to the lotion. Then make a spray using the olive, clove, and orange oils. The oils should be like 10% of whatever you're mixing it with to dilute it a bit. Then, take a very hot bath with drops of tea tree and orange oil in it. Soak as long as you can and get your head under water too. When you get out, air dry off and apply the lotion. This moment of relief will leave you feeling so much better already.. but it's not over. You will still itch up to a week but not merely as bad as it was. After 2 days you have your life back. BTW, clove oil stinks. That's why orange oil is key. Im on my third day of using these things and I can see them dead in my tub, because they get stuck in the oils and go down the drain so you don't have to worry. I also have extremely good vision. My itching is minimal and now I know it's working. I still have a Martin's 10% permethrin bottle from Amazon on its way as well as some diatomaceous earth (De). I plan to add the permethrin to the spray and lotion just for extra security and the DE I'll put on everything I touch and everywhere I've been including my car. Windex with ammonia also kills them on the surface so electronics etc can be treated with that. Small stuff like wallets and lighters can be frozen over night but I'd go 2 days straight to be sure. I never needed borax for my laundry, just high heat, but I'd still get it if I were you. So much for a long story short. I hope I helped someone because you're not alone.
So it's been about a week since my last post regarding clove oil.. So far it's one of the best things to use to subside the itch and move forward with your life. Unfortunately I've been reinfected. This morning after waking up and feeling itchy again I decided to take another shower. Every day before I use a towel to pat dry I look at it to see if there is bugs on it and low and behold, I saw about 10. So, I finally took this opportunity to put them separately in a glass so I could test which of my solutions kill them fastest if at all. Long story short.. Windex!! First I tried Diatomaceous Earth and let them crawl through it, waited 15 min but they were still moving. Then let clove oil touch them, then a few repellents containing permethrin, then witch hazel, and I'm sure a few others I'm forgetting but ammonia (Windex) killed them in under a minute. Although I was thoroughly enjoying making these things suffer. So now, on top of my clove oil/permethrin/orange oil mixture in lotion and spray form, I now have a spray containing ammonia, mint scented alcohol, and equal parts water so it doesn't melt my skin off. These bugs do travel too.. My daughter who shares just about everything with me, has yet to have one bite but across the room she found one of her shirts with two of the mites just sitting on it. At that point after finding so many (15) in less than an hour I'm now in serious clean mode again while spraying everything with this ammonia solution. I will report back with my findings or other cure I've found. I also plan to try to find the stuff from Sweden that was previously mentioned. Good luck.
How can you possibly be "finding" these mites? In your bath towel, in your daughter's shirt, etc.
They are supposed to be invisible to the naked eye, and I have yet to see one (despite all the evidence of them).
Guys thanks so much for all these posts, I had to laugh at "I just started crying, and mind you I'm a grown man" because I can 100% empathise. I was about to go hari Kiri over here but instead will get my boyfriend to pick up as much clove, tea tree, and orange oil as he can carry. No time for a doctor as I know exactly what this is, having had it before and am kicking myself for not having recognised the symptoms earlier. I guess the repeated saunas mitigated the effects but last night I felt the bites and was like noooooooooo. I dont was this deactivated earth is but I will simply try sticking everything including our mattress, armchair, shoes, clothes etc in the sauna at 90° for 30 minutes, if any of those bastards survive that kind of heat, they probably deserve to live and 10 points for effort. But yeah, hopefully not. My question is, how long do we apply the clove oil for?? Like a week? I read the Australian study also, that said clove oil has a kill rate of 100% after 15 minutes, but they didn't specifically if this means repeated applications. Also I will Clingfilm the car seats. Good call. And thanks again for the advice and the morale!
Since becoming infected with scabies I have more little brown moles as well as occasional 'pimples' that are much larger with a harder lump. These lumps are more likely to remain in spite of treatments. Over time they wear down and eventually disappear. Some have remained even after months. My question is: are these bumps and moles (and I think maybe also clear 'warts') active nests even when treatments appear to have killes the mites?
Should they be removed and how is this possible? I have been using natural treatments for over four months. About a month ago I started using clove oil in the 1/3 ratio using coconut oil recommended here. The result was dramatic in terms of improvement. However, a persistent pattern has emerged - more and more parts of my body have stopped showing signs of scabies (as indicated by using an anti-paristic treatment onto the skin after a bath or shower and having mites, larvae, eggs etc rise to the surface of the skin - I believe always dead - as well as an improvement in the skin as lesions, blisters etc clear up). In these cleared up areas, there still remains an occasional persistent bump or an area where there are small brown moles. In addition, there are areas where lesions will not clear up. However certain areas will show no new signs of scabies (eg by no new lesions or no visble dead mites) for several days, only to find signs of the scabies then. This seemes to happen in areas where there are still raised lesions which feel like there is a track along them that won't break down over a long period of time. I now seem to be in a cycle where this occurs, but where the mites are gradually reducing and the return to no visible signs is more frequent. Perhaps, the treatment will eventually beat them.
My concern is that these lumps and moles may have active nests under them. If so, what to do about it? are these nests protected by some encasement or are they so deep that the topical treatments don't get to them? I've been told that the mites burrow into the lymphatic system and that certain treatments such as bleach incite the mites to burrow deeper. The reason I suspect this may be the case is because, I recently started using wild oregano oil (sometimes called wild marjoram) that have high concentrations of carvacol in it. I take this orally as well as putting it onto lesions and lumps topically. If applied to a lump or a lesion which feels like it has a trackline (i find that these are very hard to get rid of, especially on the back), then the oregano oil will seem to break down the lesion or pump a liitle bit. If you keep on rubbing the oil into the area after this happens then sometimes dead mites or eggs will emerge. When this happens there is more likely to be an outpouring of mites etc for a day or two afterwards. After the first few days of doing this, I found some kind of encased eggs (or nests?) be released - these things often were entangled in hairs - by continuing to rub them and pull them off, they tended to pull the hair out and seemed to be attached to the hair follicle. I have a great deal of trouble working out what all these things are when they are released from the skin - is it a good sign of improvement or a bad sign or is it indicative of something else? Are these eggs or nests or mites or faeces dead? are they dead after treatment while being under the lump or mole? I believe everything that leaves the skin after treatments is dead, but I can't work out if the stuff in the skin is dead or alive. The other thing I would note is that this stage of treatment is less likely to show signs of larvae leaving the skin which I found to be more common in earlier treatments with neem oil. What are other perople's experiences? should these moles and lumps be removed and, if so, how? or do they eventually just rise to the surface?
I find it interesting that oregano oil is not mentioned as being a natural treatment for scabies very much. It has anti-bacterial, anti-fungal and anti-parasitic properties to name just a few of its benefits. It would appear to kill all stages of the scabies' life cycle (although I still use clove oil daily as it kills the eggs).
There was an earlier posting about the difference between scabies in healthy and immuno-suppressed people - clearly, chronic infection is a symptom of immune problems which require a holistic approach to better health. I suspect that any chronic scabies condition needs some internal treatment (this is why western medicine uses ivermectin) - oregano oil taken internally appears to reach the scabies as evidenced by an initial worsening of itching and a flare up of the skin condition. The breaking down of persistent pumps would appear to follow this, along with the outpourings of dead things (and maybe live mites). I am only into the second week of using the oregano oil, so I can't determine success yet. Unfortunatley, clove oil alone didn't eliminate the problem. I've been on anti-parasitic internal remedies for a while, which have had a great improvement on digestive issues but not on the sacbies until I started taking the oregano oil. [One company's] health advice is tackle this parasite along with the elimination of internal parasites and toxins, along with liver detoxification and other measures to improve natural immunity. This can only be beneficial to well being, however the task seems very onerous. Sometimes I feel so exhausted and desiring of a break from the disciplined self/environmental regimes for treating chronic scabies. I hope I can endure and have success soon!
(Brisbane, Qld., Australia)
Craig, just wondering whether you are cured of this affliction, myself recently started on the oregano oil capsules.
Suseeq, I went on to eBay and found one brand beginning with "S" available in Australia and another wild oregano oil from the US, the latter arrived within 2 weeks. There are liquid drops available but if you use them under your tongue, you would not be happy.
I just have to say Clove Oil is the Cure. I didnt know I had scabies until 4 months after I had gotten them. It started on my buttocks and then after a couple of months I started on my lower legs and calves, I thought it was chiggers... So I treated for that, but that wasn't it and after waking up at 3 and 4 in the morning with an itch that would not quit, I started looking online for what it could be. I used lye soap which I knew would cure poison ivy, that just dried the whelps but obiously did not cure the itch. I had some relief but not much. It was only when I noticed that now my back and arms were broek out in whelps and I felt creepy crawlys in my hair and on my face but could not see anything. I read and read and read all the stuff online, I tried everything and I mean everything. I tried the baths with salt, bleach, peroxide, borax, citrus mouthwash and added essential oils to my shampoo and body lotion etc. It was only until I used only the clove oil and suggested by other people on here, did I try that and only that after a hot bath with tea tree oil, after one day the itching was gone and after day 3, the redness has gone and the itching is gone. I will continue to use this for the next month just to be sure. I am so over cleaning and washing clothes and sheets and pillow cases, but at least I can sleep now and I think I am on the road to being cured. I sure hope I dont jinx myself by writing this prematurely. Good luck to everyone that is suffering from this beast of a creature. If I can offer any advice let me know.
(Charleston, South Carolina)
Sorry I did not reply sooner. As of today, I have been cured from the scabies mite, Thank God. The nites of endless scratching are over. Everytime I feel something crawling, I say oh my god, they are back. Thank God they aren't. How long have you had them?
Folks, this is the answer to your prayers! CLOVE OIL. Over the course of a year I tried many of the suggestions on this site for ridding myself of scabies. The winner is:
3/4 tsp clove oil mixed with 4 TBS olive oil
(Be careful: I made a too-potent blend and burned my skin, and the healing process was maybe even worse than the scabies! But at the 6% ratio I note above, I had no problem.)
I followed the protocols suggested in many of the postings here for laundry, bedding, bathing and general disinfecting. MMS bath 3x/day, followed by application of the clove/olive oil mixture (I also used almond and coconut oils). Apply it ALL over your body, even if you only see signs of scabies on your arm, e.g. also, I used a Q-tip and applied the undiluted oil directly onto the "bump" (I didn't put the undiluted oil on my uninfested skin).
I had scabies for over a year and by the time I tuned in to clove oil, they ranged from my ankles up to my chin! (I don't suppose details of my long mind-deranging ordeal are necessary, just imagine.)
If you want more information re the protocols I used (and helpful info from others), you can find them on Amazon.com under "Dermisil for Scabies, " 3-star review by Jennifer. As you might guess, I am not recommending this product, but it's where I first started out and because scabies are sooo horrible, I gave as much info as I could during my ordeal in order to be helpful to others.
Eternal (and I mean this) thanks to lorisayshey from San Diego (under the heading Citrus Mouthwash, 8/18/11) and Cathrine from Perth, Western Australia (under the heading Clove Oil, 8/28/11) for posting the link to the Australian study of the effects of clove oil on permethrin-resistant scabies. The link is:
Our scabies nightmare began in Las Vegas--from a scabies-infested sleeper sofa at a high-end hotel. Within a week, the infestation had spread from one apartment, to a second home, to 2 cars, and nearly everything we owned. Life was miserable.
After battling scabies for nearly a year-including several rounds of doctor-prescribed meds, assorted veterinary medicines, and miscellaneous home remedies that did not work, I discovered the clove BUD oil remedy study. I started the test myself by ordering a few bottles of clove BUD oil (which is what the study used) and set out for a cure. In the meantime, my relative continued using another remedy.
Instead of mixing the clove with oil (which I found was messy, created even more of a laundry mess, and became a hazard when bathing), I mixed the clove bud oil with a THIN moisturizing lotion for extra-dry skin that I found at a dollar store.
I poured a half-bottle of the lotion into a margarine tub (later I used an extra bottle) and added about 20-30 drops of the clove oil. I shook it well and allowed it to sit for several hours before applying. I then showered and thoroughly exfoliated--and then I applied this clove-lotion blend from toes to neck (and ALL crevices in between! ) while the body was still damp. I then air-dried--no toweling off! The body MUST be covered with the lotion 24-7. The clove bud oil is not only a natural repellant, it also penetrates the skin surface and hair follicles, so you want to keep as much of it on your body as possible at all times.
(HUGE TIP: While you are undergoing this treatment, apply the lotion after each shower--preferably twice each day, including before bed. DO NOT CHANGE CLOTHES ANYWHERE EXCEPT IN TUB OR SHOWER! Bag and tie dirty clothes immediately until washed.)
And regardless of what the "books" say, scabies DO infest the hair-and will actually burrow into hair follicles. Always apply shampoo to dry hair--and leave on as long as possible before rinsing. THEN apply a thick conditioner (add a little clove oil) and cover your head with a plastic shower cap. Sleep in it--and rinse out in the a. M. I was desperate enough to put the clove lotion on my head as well--slept in a plastic cap--and got quick results in eliminating the critters there.
I used a Q-tip with straight clove bud oil on any tracks or visible signs of the infestation. If I felt something crawling, I applied either straight clove oil to an extended area of the "crawling" or applied an additional coating of the lotion. (If you have a strong magnifying glass, check areas where there are tracks and where you have applied straight clove bud oil. You will see gas bubbles just beneath the skin indicating the critters and eggs are dead or dying.)
I also coated brows, lashes, nostrils, and ears with petroleum jelly before bed every night--and, if facial skin could tolerate it, also applied the clove bud lotion to the face.
Within a couple of days, the mites were running for cover. If you did not start out with the critters in the "private areas" previously, they will make a bee-line to escape the lotion now and you will feel them in the crease of the legs, waist areas, buttocks, etc. In fact, our experience taught us that you may not THINK you have them there--but you do. We used a slightly diluted lotion on those sensitive areas (even added a little diatamaceous earth to the lotion in the beginning to increase adhesion of the lotion. ) It's important to keep the area coated at all times in the beginning. The sudden surge in itching and crawling told me that had been a hiding place for quite a while and nights were a bit uncomfortable until I got a handle on them.
Within 2 weeks, there was a noticeable decrease in numbers and life became more bearable. I felt comfortable enough with the progress to encourage my relative to also begin the treatment. She was suffering a far more serious infestation because she was the one initially infected. She declined and continued on with her own remedies, still desperate.
By the end of the month, I knew I was on the right track and INSISTED that she start using my "home remedy. " She did--and had the SAME astounding results within 2 weeks! The relief was so tremendous that I couldn't tear her away from continuing the experiment!
It took time because the infestations were so advanced, but within 3-4 months, we were confident enough to declare ourselves CURED. Not "sorta" or "kinda" cured--but cured! I could finally put bed linen back on the bed and sleep without being tormented.
Still, I continued with the scrupulous laundry/sanitation practices we'd been using to ensure no critters had escaped, including treating the car with permethrin spray created by mixing 1 tube of a 45% "spot on" over-the-counter flea and tick solution with 1 cup of water. This was misted on the car from top to bottom about once each 2 weeks, along with frequent vacuuming. This remedy came as the result of spraying borax in the vehicles--which quickly corroded metal parts. (CAUTION: DO NOT USE PERMETHRIN ON FURNISHINGS OR CARPET IF YOU HAVE CATS--IT CAN BE FATAL! )
We also discovered that hot water washing was not necessary and that alone resulted in huge energy savings. A cold-water soaking in any detergent for several hours or preferably overnight, along with 1-2 cups of ammonia in the soak water, worked better than borax or other recommended remedies and did not damage clothes. This is highly recommended for your bed linens and towels. We continued 30 minutes to 1 hour high-heat drying to be on the safe side.
We also discovered that you must remove and soak in hot soapy water any earrings, jewelry, eye glasses, combs, hair brushes, and other items after wearing or using them ONCE. Let them soak at least an hour, then rinse and air dry. Scabies will set up house in hinges and nooks of these items. During the duration of the treatment, I gave up wearing a watch as well.
Freeze all makeup, wallets, purses, belts, makeup bags EVERY DAY. Wash and then freeze makeup brushes each time they are used, including removing brushes from mascara before freezing. Books and magazines should be put in plastic bags with a few mothballs--or freeze them. Cell and home phones, remotes, etc. , should be cleaned every day with germicidal wipes--and wash and freeze the cell phone covers as well. This may seem to be overboard, but ANYTHING you carry or touch can spread the critters.
If I can warn against anything, it is giving up too soon and jumping from one remedy to another in hope of faster results. Remember, you are having to eliminate the entire life cycle of generations of these critters that have already infested your body. It's going to take time to eliminate them all, because new ones are constantly maturing. We saw a change within 2 weeks--and then it began improving drastically from that point. We stuck with the regimen--and it worked when nothing else we tried did.
I would strongly encourage anyone struggling with this terrible infestation to at least give it a try--and stick with it for at least a month! It works!