Kidney Stones - Editor's Choice

Over the years, Earth Clinic readers have sent us many reports about their treatments for Kidney Stones. The editors at Earth Clinic consider the below posts to be some of the most helpful and informative and have named them 'Editor's Choice'. We hope that you will find this useful.

Chanca Piedra

Posted by Hackerszzz (Malaysia) on 08/11/2021
5 out of 5 stars

5 years ago, I had a kidney stone.

During the night, I felt very painful area around the liver area, and I thought I was having appendicitis. Went to the emergency ward, and they said it was something else. After doing MRI, it was a kidney stone stuck in the urinary tract between the kidney and bladder. But to proceed with the procedure they said I need to wait another 3 months, because of many others are waiting in line. I could only afford the government funded hospitals.

Tried to research the internet, and I found something about Chanca Piedra. Fortunately, this herbs grows wildly in my garden. I took a bunch of it and simmer it in water and drank it half a cup daily.

To my astonishment, the pain diminished. Previously I couldn't eat too much since if I eat too much it presses on the affected area and it became painful. I couldn't sleep well at night because of back pain and just tossing around the bed became painful. There is something in Chance Piedra that acts as analgesics. After drinking it, I can sleep better since the pain reduces to tolerable threshold.

One day, I have the urge to urinate, and it felt a bit difficult since I need to push harder in order for the urine to flow out. Suddenly, I hear a loud sound from the toilet bowl like a big pebble clashing down the toilet. It was the kidney stone, coming out without any notice. After that I felt a great relief, I can eat more food, since the pain was already gone.

Another thing that I notice is, my blood pressure reduced to a normal level. I've been taking blood pressure medication without any success, it only capable of reducing my reading in a small numbers. I'm not sure what Chanca Piedra has done to my blood pressure, but the normal value persists for a month. But it came back to abnormal level, perhaps because I was not taking Chance Piedra anymore.

Gonna try again if it could fix my blood pressure since changing several bp medications couldn't fix my bp level.


Probiotics

Posted by Art (California ) on 07/01/2018 1252 posts
5 out of 5 stars

Chronic Recurring Kidney Stones

Many people get kidney stones and are able to effectively eliminate them with Chanca Piedra or the olive oil with lemon juice remedy, but what do you do if the stones keep recurring? If they are like the majority of stones, they are likely formed from calcium oxalate, so reducing calcium intake may be helpful, but what else can you do to try and prevent them from coming back?

The following PubMed abstract suggests that probiotics containing some common Lactobacillus strains may be just the ticket to help deal with this common and often painful problem. Considering that probiotics can have a myriad of positive health effects, this may be a very nice option to have!

Art

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25291139

J Clin Gastroenterol. 2014 Nov-Dec;48 Suppl 1:S91-5. doi: 10.1097/MCG.0000000000000228.

Screening of different probiotic strains for their in vitro ability to metabolise oxalates: any prospective use in humans?

Mogna L1, Pane M, Nicola S, Raiteri E.

BACKGROUND:

Oxalate is the salt-forming ion of oxalic acid and can generate oxalate salts combining with various cations, such as sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium. Approximately 75% of all kidney stones are composed primarily of calcium oxalate (CaOx) and hyperoxaluria, a condition involving high urinary oxalate concentration, is considered a primary risk factor for kidney stone formation, known as nephrolithiasis. Current therapeutic strategies often fail in their compliance or effectiveness, and CaOx stone recurrence is still common. After an initial stone, there is a 50% chance of forming a second stone within 7 years if the condition is left untreated. The potential therapeutic application of some probiotics, mainly lactobacilli and bifidobacteria, in reducing hyperoxaluria in vivo through intestinal oxalate degrading activity is compelling and initial reports are promising. This study was undertaken to screen different Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium strains for their capacity to degrade oxalate in vitro using reverse-phase high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC).

METHODS:

The oxalate-degrading activity of 13 lactobacilli and 5 bifidobacteria was tested using a novel HPLC method after growth in a broth culture added with 10 mM ammonium oxalate. Experiments were repeated 3 times. Oxalobacter formigenes (DSM 4420) was used as positive reference to validate HPLC oxalate-degrading capability assays.

RESULTS:

Lactobacillus strains were more efficient than bifidobacteria in degrading oxalates. L. paracasei LPC09 (DSM 24243) gave the best result, as 68.5% of ammonium oxalate was converted at the end of incubation, whereas the following best converters belong to the L. gasseri and L. acidophilus species. The relatively low conversion rate observed for most bifidobacteria can probably be attributed to intrinsic oxalate toxicity toward this genus.

CONCLUSIONS:

Humans lack the enzymes needed to directly metabolise oxalate, and this potentially toxic compound is, therefore, managed using alternative pathways. As oxalate-degrading bacteria are present in the endogenous microbiota of the human intestine, although with significant individual differences, it is possible to hypothesise that the administration of selected oxalate-degrading probiotics could be an alternative and innovative approach to reducing the intestinal absorption of oxalate and the resulting urinary excretion.


Chanca Piedra

Posted by Art (California ) on 06/18/2018 1252 posts
5 out of 5 stars

Recently a friend with kidney stones was using chanca piedra for them, but the stones would keep coming back. I asked if they were using calcium supplements since the doctor had told them that the stones were formed from calcium. As it turned out, they were supplementing with calcium. They discontinued the calcium supplement and the stones did not come back!

If your stones are formed from calcium, this may be relevant.

Art


Lemon Juice

Posted by Sassenach (Southern California) on 06/08/2017
5 out of 5 stars

My kidney stones are calcium oxalate. I have passed three very painful stones in 25 years, but those days are over now that I use the following lemon juice remedy. In August 2016, I had the symptoms of a kidney stone (sudden urge to urinate and jabbing pain in the right kidney). I went to the doctor, and after an ultrasound, I was told I had a 6mm kidney stone in my right kidney and other smaller stones. The 6mm would be extremely painful to pass, so I searched YouTube for remedies. I found a guy who recommended 1 cup of straight lemon juice in the morning and then adding half a squeezed lemon (about 1 oz lemon juice) to 8 oz cup of water and drink that up to 12x a day. That's a lot of lemons. As such, I only drank 1/2 cup of straight lemon juice in the morning. I would wait about 1/2 hour before eating and brushing teeth. Then I'd add half a juiced lemon to one cup (8oz) of water and drink 8 or more cups of that a day. In time (a few weeks to one month) the kidney pain disappeared, and when I had a CT scan in 5/2017 the 6mm stone was gone. I never passed the stone or ended up in the hospital or needed lithotripsy or a stint.

Please note that I have also tried the lemon juice /olive oil remedy and the olive oil only made me sick to my stomach. I don't think there is a need for the olive oil at all. From my experience, it is the lemon juice that dissolves the stone.


Chanca Piedra

Posted by Art (California ) on 01/22/2017 1252 posts
5 out of 5 stars

Another chanca piedra for kidney stones success story.

A friend of mine who has a history of kidney stones recently developed a new case which he hadn't had in years. The pain was bad enough that he had to crawl out of bed very slowly and could not stand up straight for the little while that he was able to get out of bed to go to the bathroom. He started on Chanca Piedra and the pain started to diminish the first day and was gone by the third day, but he continued to take it "just in case".

He took two 500 mg tablets at breakfast, two at lunch and two at dinner and each time with a full glass of water for 3 grams total per day.

Art


Lemon Juice

Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 01/17/2017
5 out of 5 stars

I had a sudden onset of my fifth kidney stone... five in about 10 years. First one was on right side, then next three on left and this one last Saturday on right. Somewhat sharp pain like previous ones and getting worse as day went on. By the time my wife and I were back from a little day trip, all I could do was sit quietly on the couch and not move too much.

I managed to get four lemons squeezed and combined with eight glasses of water in a container. (So one half lemon juice per glass of water.) And began drinking. One glass of water every two hours.

After fifth glass, I realized my pain was gone. By end of evening no more blood in urine that was the bright kind. Next morning, no pain at all. Continued drinking lemon juice just to make sure. So I didn't even have to drink quarter cup of olive oil. That was the fastest of all my previous stones to pass. The previous four took about 3 to 5 days to pass.


Chanca Piedra

Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 04/12/2016
5 out of 5 stars

Oh happy day. I realized three weeks ago another kidney stone was kicking in. That would be my fifth in eight years. My formula that has worked for previous stones is using six lemons per day, cut in half and the juice mixed with water. So I'd drink 12 glasses of lemon water a day. After three to six days the stones would be gone. And I'm happy to have that solution; but on this latest one I decided to give "stone breaker" a try and had a bottle of the liquid form on hand anticipating a new attack. And as I said, it came about three weeks ago. So I started with twelve drops in water of stone breaker on empty stomach three times a day... a LOT easier than drinking huge quantities of lemon water. Well in three days...stone gone.

Now I have two methods of getting rid of stones. Oh happy day.


Lemon Juice and Olive Oil

Posted by Fruitloops (Phoenix, AZ) on 09/12/2014
5 out of 5 stars

I had pain for months, thought it was uti, finally had a CT in ER two months ago that showed a 5 mm stone in my right ureter a couple of inches from my bladder. Scheduled a follow up with urologist but had to cancel as I have a child that is 2 and needs medical care. The pain would come and go. My frequency and urgency to urinate was the most bothersome. I finally realized I should try and pass this stone to avoid more appointments and surgery. Last night around 10 pm I mixed 2 oz extra virgin olive oil with 2 oz lemon juice. (the liquid squeeze kind, not fresh squeezed) I drank maybe ten to twelve teaspoons of the mixture and really didn't like the oil taste but it was tolerable. I was afraid of getting nauseous as I'm very prone to nausea and figured I would drink more in the morning. I passed my 5 mm stone at 9 am this morning! I must add that I was also using a vibrating back massager on my abdomen and back as I had also read that helps pass stones. I really feel like the lemon juice/olive oil was what caused the stone to pass. It had been in the same place for a long time and today it's out!! I'm so relieved!