Apple Cider Vinegar
Quantifiable evidence of the effectiveness of apple cider vinegar for improving lipid panel plus dissolving calcium deposits.
I am prone to making calcium deposits on arteries and organs.
On 10/13/17 I had a lipid panel done with borderline results. I also had a stuck bile stone, causing misery and moving towards surgery. I did not change my diet, which is reasonably health conscious but added a daily dose of 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar mixed with apple cider to make is deliciously palatable.
In six weeks, in the middle of Qigong class while doing a gentle abdominable exercise, the stone released... dramatically and with great relief. Took my lipid panel again in 3 months with dramatic results, and again six weeks later with a different lab, just to be sure. And one and a half years later after a 6 month total diet derailment due to stress circumstances of a critically ill husband unable to assimilate food, and I undermined myself by eating his food to not waste it.
Here are the numbers. 10/13/17 chol-252, hdl -61, ldl 167,,tri -120 1/8/18 chol-61, hdl 58, ldl-109, tri-89 2-24-18 Chol- 189, hel-71, ldl-100 tri-91, and the backslide: 7/26/19 chol-228, hdl-60, ldl-140, tri-140.
Since that eyeopening setback I am back on track with my daily ACV cocktail. Will test in a separate lab in a couple of months. But this is measured incredible result and setback... Have not been able to get any attention from anyone in the medical profession other that being blown off. I am a believer of ACV. It's inexpensive, accessible and a true threat to the pharmaceutical industry.
Do you think the ACV tablets will work as well?
Personal experience... tablets are not as effective. Processed loses the goodness and quality. Same goes for food, big time. ACV needs to have the 'mother' like Braggs brand has. You can even make it easily & inexpensively with your own apples. Lots of vids on how to. If you need a little help adjusting to the flavor add it to hot water and add stevia to sweeten (not sugar), and some nice Ceylon cinnamon and it's like a hot apple cider drink. Very pleasant.
Hello Carla! What time of the day do you take the ACV? and do you do it after a meal or before? Thank you!
Apple Cider Vinegar
I have been drinking Apple Cider Vinegar with water for two years. I drink it throughout the day to control blood sugar. Although it works for me to lower my blood sugar (look up studies), it does absolutely nothing for my cholesterol. I am vegan... on 75% healthy fat diet with veggies. My cholesterol is through the roof with the exception of HDL. Although high fat low carbs works for most in substantially lowering cholesterol and lowering weight, for a small group it actually substantially raises it.
ON the advice of my naturopath doctor, I have switched to a fat free low carb diet which my body evidently needed because for the first time in two years I am losing weight. I also am drinking lemon water with organic cayenne pepper every morning. All numbers dramatically reduced.
I have run into vegans with high cholesterol from time to time. The question is, are you using coconut oil or palm oil? These actually can raise your cholesterol. Here's a medical study in that regard:
Also, activated charcoal has been found to be as good questran (cholestyramine) for lowering cholesterol. Best part is that it has no side effects. Just make sure not to take it with any prescription meds.
Here's an article in that regard:
i want to reply to the cholesterol problem. I think that we who have a high cholesterol numbers, process lipids differently. The reason I think that, is because at 23 I got a severe case of psoriasis. I found in DAVIS book (Let's Get Well) her cure was "lecithin", which I took 3 1,000 mg, 3x a day.
Within a month, my psoriasis was down to 50% ( my body was 75% covered). Then I went to the lecithin granules. 1 Tablespoon 3x a day. The point to all of this is I took lecithin for 30 years daily, and never got over 180 cholesterol number.
Also, her cure for high cholesterol was lecithin, among other things. The lecithin after 6 months got rid of the psoriasis, but I kept taking it to keep from getting it back, because as soon as soon as I lowered the dose it would start appearing again.
I read an article that said soy lecithin was bad, because of the hormones and that the soy was GMO, so I stopped it. I was getting into coconut oil. I started the oil pulling, and also took a TBL a day to ingest. And what do you know? My cholesterol went up to 230 ......so after some research, I did stop ingesting coconut oil. My cholesterol went back down to 180.
I cannot take fish oil either. It makes me bruise all over my body legs and arms, and these bruises last for months. But that's why I think that some people have a disordered lipid system. I think that people with psoriasis do not process fat or lipids properly, or that the lipids we ingest are not the right kind. I do know that there is clean organic lecithin at the vitamin stores.
Thank you, Sharon in MO, I just got my bloodwork back and my cholesterol is still high. I've had it high most of my life I think, but never kept good track. I run around 300 plus (combined LDL and HDL, LDL is 239 of the 330 on "just received" results). I am going to shop for clean, organic lecithin today. Thank you again, it will be worth a try for sure.
PS I was diagnosed with 3rd degree Heart Block in 97, not sure if that is caused by cholesterol. I have a pacemaker since then and I am 68.
(Kelowna, Bc Canada)
2 Suggestions : Sunflower Lecithin ( any good health food store)
Niacin, do some research, Dr.s know about niacin but prefer to write scripts .
Chris Chung...I'm not really sure why you think coconut oil in particular creates bad or excessive cholesterol in the body. That is not true in my own experience with using virgin coconut oil. Indeed, the research that you actually quoted in your last post certainly does not conclude that VCO causes hypertension, hyperlipidemia or hypercholestemia in their results section. Here is the link to the research you quoted in your last post:
In the Results section of that research it says the following:
"LDL-C concentrations were significantly increased on butter compared with coconut oil (+0.42,95% CI 0.19 to 0.65 mmol/L, P<0.0001) and with olive oil (+0.38,95% CI 0.16 to 0.60 mmol/L, P<0.0001), with no differences in change of LDL-C in coconut oil compared with olive oil (−0.04,95% CI −0.27 to 0.19 mmol/L, P=0.74). Coconut oil significantly increased HDL-C compared with butter (+0.18,95% CI 0.06 to 0.30 mmol/L) or olive oil (+0.16,95% CI 0.03 to 0.28 mmol/L). Butter significantly increased TC/HDL-C ratio and non-HDL-C compared with coconut oil but coconut oil did not significantly differ from olive oil for TC/HDL-C and non-HDL-C. There were no significant differences in changes in weight, BMI, central adiposity, fasting blood glucose, systolic or diastolic blood pressure among any of the three intervention groups."
I also do not believe that LDL or HDL cholestrol is necessarily bad for you in high amounts. I have never believed in allopathic medicine's "saturated fats are bad for you" theory. I have always preferred Dr Linus Pauling's Unified Theory of Cardiovascular Disease because it's much more honest, logical and makes more sense.
Virgin coconut oil(VCO) helped me to lose at least 20 lbs in weight five years ago(I was overweight at the time) and during that period my blood pressure always remained at a constant 70/110. I am currently taking VCO on a daily basis for covid-19 prevention because, from the research, VCO(lauric acid) kills all lipid coated viruses(covid-19 is a lipid coated virus) -- in the same way as aspirin or BHT. VCO is cheap where I live(Philippines) and my wife and I both also use it for our skin and hair. I also supplement VCO on a regular basis as a preventative against Altzheimer's Disease(I'm over 70 yo). Been using VCO like this for about 14 years with no complaints and no ill effects.
Here's some more research on the usefulness of VCO from the coconut.com website:
Everyone is unique and reacts differently with remedies. I cannot take Virgin Coconut oil. It makes my hair, scalp, skin oily and itchy. I stick with cold pressed Olive Oil. I have High Cholesterol, my HDL is fine, but the LDL is high. High Cholestrol runs in my family, I tried, diet, exercise, supplements like Red Yeast rice, Policosanol, none worked. I was reading about Cholesterol. Sometimes you have to fix your liver, gallbladder and your gut. Sometimes there are other factors involved, like insulin resistance, diabetes, metabolic syndrome, inflammation, dysbiosis or microbial imbalances, stress, allergies. A bulging stomach tells me I have fat accumulation. Every part of the body has to work together. So I am working on my gut, digestion, liver and gallbladder bile. My doc told me I have gallbladder sludge and my liver is producing too much cholesterol. I have to rid myself of the sugar and bad carbs too for my pre-diabetes and insulin resistance. Any ideas. The Fenugreek Powder and Amla powder is helping my pre-diabetes blood sugar numbers. I am taking Milk Thistle and Swedish bitters for the liver and gallbladder. It is just knowing how much to take. Any other suggestions for gallbladder and liver?
Any luck with working on your gallbladder and liver issues? From reading your condition I feel I'm in the same boat. Just don't know where to start. Anthony
The virgin coconut oil available here seems to have been switched or mixed with copra oil recently. Even the more expensive brands that used to always smell like fresh coconut. It becomes most apparent when cooking with it - it takes on a strong "off" smell. Even a carton of coconut based ice cream had the copra smell. Is that happening in the Philippines?
Does heating the coconut oil alter its tendency to raise cholesterol?
I have had very good luck at lowering high LDL cholesterol while raising HDL cholesterol using Lecithin as outlined in the link below.
I have several friends who have used it with excellent results allowing them to avoid statins altogether!
Yes, I do not want statins which is all a doctor offers me. I'm going for the lecithin, I was anyway, but when I read your post Art, with friends/family as witnesses as well, sounds good to me.
Define "healthy fat".
Any form of Seed oil is not healthy and will not do good things for human health...especially genetically modified rapeseed (poisonous) oil known to all as "Canola" --- Can (canadian) o (oil) la (low acid). Look up what "acid" is in it at "low levels" and see why no bugs or animals will eat this stuff...only humans consume a food with it.
Also, the oils eaten even if "healthy" (let us define "healthy" for now as fruit oils: Avocado, Coconut, Olive, etc.) are also toxic if rancid (very common). Consuming rancid oils in any form causes systemic inflammation...which is the real cause of modern degenerative diseases that don't exist in native peoples who eat native diets free of modern refined and long term stored foods. This constant inflammation causes elevated cholesterol as the body produces about 80-90% of cholesterol for repairs to the damaged tissues (This is why people like vegans who eat "0" cholesterol can still have extremely high blood cholesterol levels.
Additionally, refined sugars in concentration (so called "healthy" Agave syrup...LOL) regardless of form also lead to degenerative inflammatory conditions...go figure...wow, eating a diet that includes refined foods leads to unhealthy bodies...shock me some more, please, maybe tell me the answer is to go to an MD and get drugs to treat the symptoms of the diseases you are causing yourself??? YEP, that is just what happens in western civilization...no personal attention to the causes...
Please note: Your diet is the cause of diseases that are easily avoidable, stop trying to resolve issues by treating symptoms and begin to learn how to treat your body. It knows what to do to heal and balance if you stop causing it trouble with the things you put into it and the way you treat it.
Blessings to All and may you find power in knowledge. :)
Iron. My cravings disappeared when I started taking iron supplements. If you are constantly munchy, try iron.
Garlic. Arsenic poisoning mimics diabetes. Detox for metals.
Niacin. (Niacinamide - the flush type) :
This link is about the niacin flush:
High cholesterol is not a problem. The problem lies in the ratios of LDL to HDL.
I gave up bread, rice, and potatoes before I had a heart cath last year - dropped twelve pounds in 3.5 weeks doing nothing else.
Go to YouTube and look up Dr. Pradip Jamnadas. He's got three (over an hour long) videos where he addresses the cholesterol MYTH among others. I'd start with "The Bittersweet Truth" personally, then "Fat Lies", and lastly "Fasting for Survival".
Also, if you've never read it, I'd also suggest "Grain Brain" by Dr. David Perlmutter.
I really appreciate this post, Blane! I never thought about the ratios between the L and the HDLs. I'm going to watch these videos before I buy anything. It's way better to read whole threads on these sites, isn't it. I'm so guilty of reading one reply and pouncing on it before I read further.
(Crescent City, CA)
Wondering if you are still around, Blane?? I have found more and more info, but didn't look up your suggestions, but am now doing just that. Thank you, because I've been listening to Dr. Benjamin Bikman, Dr. Eric Berg, some of the Diet Doctor, and trying hard to read Lipid Lunacy. It's too technical for me I'm afraid but headed out to read your suggestions now as well. I'm becoming a believer in high, total cholesterol isn't the enemy, but rather the Triglyceride/HDL ratio. I admit I am lowering my dairy intake to see if I can "feel" safer with my numbers in the lipid profile I just got, but my Triglyceride/hdl ratio is excellent!
I'm just up for reading more studies that have been coming out for some time on this topic, and I haven't put my faith in conventional medicine for some time ;) Feedback from anyone is welcome as I remain open-minded, and, I do understand that if ACV works for you, don't "fix" it ;) I had to change my way of eating because of Type 2 Diabetes, and the fact that I have a 3rd degree AV Node block and am on my 3rd Pacemaker since 1997.
Hi Pacific Coast Lady,
Well, it has worked for my friends who have used it, but only soy lecithin granules. The other forms of lecithin such as sunflower lecithin have not been tested in studies, so I have found good effect with soy lecithin granules. They have told me that they used two level measuring tablespoons per day until their cholesterol levels dropped to the level they wanted and then reduced their dose to one level measuring tablespoon per day as a maintenance dose. I have only seen the granules work, not the soft gel capsules or other capsules.
Some have told me they add it to their daily smoothie. I have also added the soy lecithin to several ounces of water and drank it down quickly with no stirring.
In the study I have previously linked to, lecithin lowered LDL cholesterol, VLDL cholesterol, triglycerides and raised HDL cholesterol.
Juice celery to lower your cholesterol.
One bunch a day for a few weeks then see what your levels are.
I had no problems with cholesterol, I started having celery juice and my last test shows my cholesterol of 253. Now I have some doubts about the celery juice. It is good for cleaning the stomach though.
Hi Art, or anyone reading,
I never got the Lecithin, no good reason, and Jan 20,2021 I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Now I've had to quit some things, and have gone lower than low carbs, almost zero. My blood sugar is dropping a little after a month, no Meformin for me, but my cholesterol and Trygliserides are high. Cholestrol has stayed at the 300,330(last lab). Of course they wanted me to take a Lepitor, did that last night for the first and last time. My ears (Tinnitus) are insanely spiked to where I just can't take another of those pills. I'm getting on the Lecithin as soon as Amazon can get it sent to me. I don't know what brand to look for but I do take some good supplements from LIfe Extension, like my B Complex. I also am to take D3 and that has no side effects on me I know of.
Thanks to everyone that's posting on this. My doctor is a precious man, very young, and really seems to care about folks but I can't trust the drugs ;(
I am concerned I may not have ordered the right Lecithin. I'm not sure I can mention a brand or put a link, so I'll mention the brand I ordered. I don't want to do anything against the site rules, but I know they check all the posts before they allow them so I'll go ahead. I ordered granules (lecithin) from Life Extension. The ingredients sounded good and reviews, but someone mentioned, back in 2015 post, that there is not GMO Soy, no matter what the label says? Thanks again for any help,
Your cholesterol is perfectly fine. Besides, one number means literally nothing. Ratios are important. Lp(a) is important.
They prescribed Statins which I took one night, and the next day I felt awful so I stopped them. Then I got the Lecithin. My cholesterol is 330. I'll break that down to the Ldl and the hdl: LDL = 239 HDL = 55 Tryglicerides are high too I hear: 185. These are all mg/dl. Ratio is 4:3 Why do you say mine are fine, if you were speaking to me, when I didn't post them?
1/4 tsp. cayenne pepper in 1/3 c. of water, chase with /2 to 1c. of water for 2wks. after that once a week. I agree with low fat diet as well instead use flax seed oil, omegas, coconut oil.
Life Extension states that Metformin is a life extension drug.
Good on you for reconsidering about statins.
Here are a few reasons why statins may not be the best choice.
1. Statins are known to cause muscle pain, liver damage, increased blood sugar and neurological side effects as discussed here:
2. Statins have caused memory loss in some people as discussed here:
3. Statins can cause tendon damage or rupture as reported in the following study link:
On the other hand, "Soy Lecithin" lowers cholesterol and triglycerides as shown in the following study:
It is worth noting that I have not as yet been able to find other cholesterol studies for other forms of lecithin such as sunflower lecithin and my experience is that "granular soy lecithin" has been effective for several friends who have used it.
Hello Art, good to find your post.
I got my Lecithin. It sure doesn't taste bad at all, and I could just chew it up in my mouth if I had to ;) I dissolved a tbsp of the granules in my decaf Green Tea (which I like to chill to make it ice-tea) I don't notice any difference in taste with that. It takes just a little time, maybe 15 min. to dissolve in the cold tea but people can use a blender to speed up the process if need be. I read it's good to do it for about 30 min. before I eat so am doing it that way. I hope it works, and I don't know if I should do the 3 tbsp, 3 x a day. I don't see anywhere you mention how much you used per day? I'll just keep taking some each day. I didn't get my Lecithin until this afternoon in the mail, so it has nothing to do with what happened to me this a.m. I have Type 2 diabetes just diagnosed Jan 20.
I cut my carbs way back to I think below 30g a day, I was so concerned about having something like Diabetes. Anyway, yesterday got to talk to a dietician, and leary of them as well but I listened. She encouraged me to eat more carbs, 30g per meal say. So I started that today. But from 6 a.m. to 9:15 I felt so good and healthy, lots of energy, and for the first time in weeks, no headache on awakening.
Then at 9:15 or so, I got the bad shakes, like the hypoglycemic thing I got as a kid when I didn't eat soon enough. Then a headache that didn't feel like any headache I'd ever had, so really clueless. I don't do this unless I know something is way wrong, I went to the emergency room, and all I got done was my blood pressure, temperature, checking stuff.
My blood pressure for the first time I know of in 68 years was 170/??, I can't remember the bottom number but it might have been 120, or not. I was just so upset because the waiting room was full, the inner exam rooms were full, sick people surrounding me, and I didn't stay as my head stopped hurting and I figured I wouldn't be seen anyway.
I plan to contact the clinic tomorrow and ask about my blood pressure, they are open on Saturdays. If this crazy new way of eating, high cholesterol, and of course high triglycerides are the cause of now, High Blood pressure, I can only hope I can find an answer for that here too. I'm 5'2" and right at 129, exercise regularly walking, never ate a whole lot of carbs and all this. Kind of overwhelming, but I trust alternative medicines/home-remedies over drugs and I won't give up. Thanks for your's and everyone's input on the site,
That is interesting, but I think I mentioned here or was it on a diabetes forum?? Well anyway, I am willing to take the Metformin if it that last resort for caring for myself at home. If I end up in the hospital then I'll have to let them give me whatever. I just have found natural ways of "fixing" a lot of issues. The fact that Metformin has a very good track record, which I can see in your link, and have heard from other believers, is reassuring should I have to resort to a drug.
It actually seems good to me that Life Extension makes what seems to be a reliable alternative for people. It made me sick for 2 weeks, or, it was my physical issues. I don't know for sure at this point. I even quit my supplements and just to try without even those to see if it is just my body is sick with Type 2, high cholesterol/triglycerides, hypo-thyroid issues in the past (maybe again now, can't get tested yet for that), and now added to the pile, is about of high blood pressure. It was 170 over I think it was 110, but I haven't been able to get the recording of that from the hospital. My regular doc has to request it and I will be telling him on Monday about my Friday trip to emergency. I do thank you for the information, it was sort of a surprise as I didn't know Life Extension made prescription drugs.
This was truly an interesting article, Ivy. I hadn't read it until this a.m. Thank you for the link. I started the Meformin again, after stopping it at 3 weeks in, because I had some stomach discomfort they do speak of in possible side-effects. A problem in my mind was, those are mentioned as side-effects for the Type 2 Diabetes I was diagnosed with 4 weeks ago now. I do love alternatives and have had many work for me, but I am not against conventional medicine either. I wish it could all be taught to MDs. When the best fix for an upset stomach or many other things is ACV, why should a drug be prescribed? I know the answer, BIG Pharma. Well, interestingly enough, I am getting my foods in-line now and no ill effects from the Metformin so I'll continue on it. I know people have different experiences, different opinions, and different levels of knowledge about health. I do have an open mind about it all, then I choose what is best working for me. It's my body, only I know what all goes on, I couldn't begin to list and tell about the many issues, little things many of them, but still very vigilant. Thank you again.
Art, thanks for the thoughts on statins.
Do you have any information about red rice yeast and it having the same side effects as statins? I've been taking LDL Omega capsules for my cholesterol and it works to bring it down, but I also get the same muscle aches and leg cramping as when I took statins. This formula has the CoQ10 as well, but the leg cramping has me wanting to not take it anymore.
Yes, red yeast rice is essentially the same as the statin named Lovastatin or Mevacor. Myself, I wouldn't use it.
My choice would be "Soy Lecithin Granules" because these have worked very effectively for friends. I use Non-GMO Soy Lecithin Granules to good effect.
You've got a few health issues going on at the same time.
The lecithin you started today should help reduce your LDL and VLDL cholesterol very significantly as well as triglycerides. My friends who have used it took 2 tablespoons per day initially as a loading dose and then switched down to 1 tablespoon per day as a maintenance dose. Nine tablespoons a day is a lot by any standard and I would say way too much. You are a fairly small person so you may find that a tablespoon is more than adequate for you and in time and with testing, you may find you can go with a slightly lower dose to maintain benefit, but that will be trial and error on your part. Lecithin can be helpful with fatty liver disease if that happens to be a health issue you are having. One small study suggested that a component of lecithin can possibly improve insulin sensitivity making it useful in diabetes. Lecithin is an emulsifier so it can help breakdown fats which may also be useful in diabetes, but the studies are lacking to discuss this benefit in diabetes.
One friend who is using lecithin successfully adds it to her morning smoothie and said she feels it improves the flavor of her smoothie.
On a somewhat related note, Zinc and Selenium are usually helpful if hypothyroidism is an issue, especially zinc. What condition is your hair in?
Hello Art, Thank you for your reply :) I haven't had any further Niacin flushes without taking any Niacin, lol ;) Thank goodness, no liver issues (disease). My hair is still in good shape, but I think it's beginning to thin a little. I will see about adding Zinc and Selenium to my regime. Right now, with all else, I stopped my B-complex and Glucosamine blend because I wanted to see if that might have caused the headaches, etc. I can add them back with my D3 1000iu recommended by my doctor (not sure their right, of course but not ill effects I know of) and my "just" 200mg of Magnesium Citrate (I know this one isn't hurting me but use to take it at 400 mg a day which I think is better). I feel comfy with just the 2 tbsp of Lecithin, one in a.m., one in p.m. with either green tea or my turmeric juice and ginger juice mixture. I bought that from a company here in California, but of course, it is processed by them. I hope it's healthy though, for anti-inflammatory. I haven't had any arthritic pain since I've been drinking it. It seems I read that if the thyroid is working right, many other things can start working right as well. I can't remember where or who I heard it from though.
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I was a previously a skeptic but ACV has reduced my cholesterol.
I am 56 years old and my cholesterol had been getting higher and higher over the years (I also am hypothyroid). My doctor told me to try to reduce my levels or she was going to prescribe statins, which I did not want to take.
I came to the Earth Clinic website and decided to try ACV. I started taking 2 Tbsp. ACV in water just once a day.
In Sept. of 2016, my total cholesterol was 232, HDL 54 and LDL 151. In December of 2016, my total cholesterol was 209, HDL 56 and LDL 130.
So, my overall cholesterol went down 23 points and my LDL went down 21 points in 3 months taking just 2 Tbsp. ACV a day.
My doctor was amazed and told me to just keep doing whatever it was I was doing.
I am going to try mixing it with pure grape juice as some have suggested. It is very hard for me to get the ACV down with just water, which prevents me from taking it as often as I would like.
I find ACV is easier to swallow with V-8 juice.I started with 1tsp ACV and 4 oz of v8 juice twice a day and now I am up to 1/2 tablespoon of ACV and 4oz of v-8 juice. Marilyn
What happens to the goodness or usefulness of ACV when I add baking soda? It's much easier to drink, but I wonder if it affects the things in ACV that are good for me.
I make a large glass of lemonade, sweeten with stevia and 2 Tablespoons of ACV and it's delish...
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Happy to report that ACV has helped to lower my total cholesterol. In Dec 15, my total was 288. As of Feb 2 2016 it is 226. I've been taking 2 T of ACV and fish oil every night before bed. In another month I will go for a check up to see HDL and LDL results! So excited that I won't be relying on statins!
Could you post an update? I've been taking it but it has started giving me collywobbles (upset tummy). Thanks.
Try using organic products and raw apple cider vinegar.
To a small quantity of hot water in a glass, add a small spoonful of pure coconut oil and wild honey and stir until dispersed, add 200 - 250ml of spring water 10ml of raw cider vinegar and 25ml aloe vera, do not sip but try to drink it fairly quickly, this should sort things out.
I put mine in grapefruit juice to make it easier to drink and almost cannot taste it, unlike in water. Not good for your teeth straight, or your stomach. Also, I try to eat something before, even if it is just a small snack.
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My cholesterol has always been high. Cholesterol Total 256; HDL 142; LDL 107 and Triglyceride 35.
I am not taking any medication, but will try the organic apple cider vinegar in some warm water early in the morning. Hope it will lower my numbers.
I am 75 years old, work full time, exercise three times a week and eat a very healthy diet but love a glass of good red wine. I wonder whether I have to cut that out.
Seems like some consider an occasional glass of red wine to actually be good for the heart. Personally, I don't think you have to give that up.
Hopefully the Apple Cider Vinegar will work. You might also try adding a bowl of oatmeal to your diet a few times a week for breakfast.
Keep us posted on your progress. I think we have a lot to learn from someone who is 75, eats well, exercises and works full time. Good for you!
~Mama to Many~
(Ten Mile , Tn.)
HI U BRIGITTE, , , , , , , , , , , , , I think our Anti-Aging doctor would tell you that you are in good shape , except your LDL should be below 100. She says the cardiologists are off base on cholesterol levels.
Your brain requires it. Suggest you get counseling from an integrative doctor before you start messing with a test that has HDL and triglycerides that most would kill for.
Dear Brigitte, I just had some blood work done for my 6mo.check up. 6mos ago my cholesterol was 200. LDL was 128 / HDL was 54 . Today my cholesterol is 167. LDL is now 104 / HDL is 47. I take 2 tablespoons of organic ACV a day with 2 tablespoons of raw honey I don't know if it will work for you. It has a been great for me. Good luck. Bill
Your numbers look great to me and as you age, it is important to have higher cholesterol and yours seems perfect. Studies the lower the cholesterol the more chance of death from heart attack. LDL will be kept in blood if fighting infection etc. Do not worry - your levels are fab - bet you outlive your uneducated doctor - read Chris Kresser, Chris Masterjohn or Dr Malcolm Kendrick (book Doctoring Data) Blog: the cause of heart disease :)
When people say their cholesterol is too high, the first question would be what is too high? Our bodies need cholesterol and if it gets too low, people have a higher risk of cancer. I want to make sure my cholesterol is around 200- 225. Don't listen to FDA. Cholesterol is NOT your enemy. The person that recommended a low fat diet, I bring into question. Read the book The Cholesterol myth.
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My LDL is too high. How should I be taking Apple Cider Vinegar to lower it?
I tried 2 tbsp. in 8 oz. water with honey (with the mother) for 6 months. Not only did my bad LDL go up, but my HDL went down and TGL went up. Only slightly but there was NO reduction. My diet has not changed and my exercise regimen has been the same. Caveat Emptor...I hope it works for you but didn't work for me.
I agree that ACV works well at cholesterol/LDL reduction. It does not, repeat Does NOT raise cholesterol or deplete HDLs.
My cholesterol was 268 in May 2015. I've been drinking ACV water for several months and I had another doctor's appointment earlier this month and my cholesterol was 208.
I was completely shocked and I will continue to drink ACV water.
Also, I noticed that I have a lot more energy and less pain upon waking in the morning.
Is your urine darker when you drink ACV? Mine is, don't know what that is about. I put 1oz in 32oz of water.
How much Apple Cider Vinegar do you consume per day?
My white blood cells were high, my red blood cells were high, hemoglobin was high, my Hematocrit was high, my HDL cholesterol was 212, my Non -HDL cholesterol was 171 my triglycerides was 175, my LDL cholesterol was 136, my cholesterol /HDL Ratio was 5.2 so I thought I would try the apple cider vinegar to see if it lowers my cholesterol. Is two tablespoons of acv in a full glass of water for one month correct? How many times a day? Thank you, Wendy
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High Cholesterol is hereditary for me. My overrall cholesterol was 272 in Sept 2012. I started drinking ACV in Jan 2013, I did labs in March it went down to 214. All I can say is no more statins for me.
How should I take Apple Cider Vinegar for high cholesterol? Should I take it before or after meals? Thank you
I think a good time to take it is first thing in the morning or between meals.
You might also consider taking cayenne pepper and eating oatmeal a few times a week. Also, eating carrots or drinking carrot juice regularly may be helpful.
~Mama to Many~
Just started taking apple cider vinegar to lower cholesterol and blood pressure, 2 tsps. in 8oz. of water, 3x a day. I am curious about the cayenne pepper, how should it be taken? Thanks!
You would stir in a pinch with your ACV and water.
So, it should be taken with ACV. I thought that it is an alternative to the ACV and water combo. Thanks a bunch for the reply.
I started taking Apple Cider Vinegar in my smoothies, is that a good idea?
Try a teaspoon of organic ACV in every glass of water you drink. This is a great way to get your needed ACV every day. I've been doing this for years and when I'm someplace where organic isn't available, I feel badly deprived.
It's so easy, and it gives the water a flavor that once you become accustomed to it, you will look forward to drinking your water often throughout the day.
I also put a Tablespoon of local raw honey in my drink.
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On 25th May 2012, my overall cholesterol reading was 6.9, which is high. I decided to try organic apple cider vinegar to lower it. For the last year I have daily had a table spoon of high quality organic pure apple cider vinegar diluted with water in a large mug. I drank this once a day, straight after a breakfast of cold porridge, honey and soya milk. Initially it was hard to drink as it was a bit acidic tasting, but now I quite like it. Occasionally I would have it later in the day after a different meal, but it was mainly first thing in the morning.
At end of May 2013, my cholesterol had reduced to 4.1! I was amazed by this. There were no other changes to my lifestyle except sticking to only having any refined sugar (chocolate, sweets, cakes etc) every other day, rather than almost every day. Sometimes in the last year I would go 3/4 days with no refined sugar, but would have natural sugar via fruit. This is also quite a big change, but I am sure it's the vinegar that's the main cause of the massive reduction as I have always had some refined sugar in my diet.
(Louisville, Ky, Usa)
Migs: Thanx for posting your success story. I suppose that ACV works in several ways to accomplish this feat of lowering cholesterol. One, it buffers excess acid production (acidosis severely depletes enzymes). Two, stimulation of digestion (especially the bilary). Three, ACV kills Pathogens like Candida. Four, it stimulates metabolism (revs up the krebs cycle).
(Leigh-on-Sea, Essex, Uk)
Yes, I also feel very fit, not putting weight on stomach at all which is great. Maybe because of faster metabolism.
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Will the ACV work for men especially for those with high cholesterol where it comes in the genes as for my husband who's on statins and is 43 yrs. old. Can we have the ACV along with the statins?
(In The Valley, Ca)
I have just started reading a book called "The Cholesterol Myth", written by two doctors I saw interviewed on Dr. Oz. I would suggest that before he takes too much of those statin drugs, you read the book. It's pretty eye opening. Good luck to you.
As I live in England our measurements for Cholesterol are different from the States.
However mine are considered on the high side. My doctor though is great and says I don't have to take statins if I'd rather not. My blood pressure and diabetes II is well controlled. He maintains walking and exercise are far more important than getting the Cholesterol down.
(Mold, Denbighshire, North Wales)
Hi Wendy, you don't say how old you are so this may not be relevant, but there was a good double blind trial done at the University of Paris some years ago on women over 54. It ran for some years and they discovered to their surprise that those with the highest cholesterol of any kind survived acute heart attacks whereas those with low cholesterol didn't! When I asked my consultant what she thought of the results, ( I have high cholesterol), she said she knew the trial and agreed it was correct and then couldn't understand why I didn't want statins! I fit the age category. There are several good books out there including Dr Uffe Ravnskov ' Ignore the awkward' and ' Fat and cholesterol are good for you' etc. I believe he's had death threats so he can't possibly be saying anytHing of merit now, can he? ;-). When Ancel Keys first came up with the theory that high cholesterol was linked to heart attacks etc in the 1950's, he was laughed out of court. He wanted to do a trial to prove his theory using people from 26 countries, but only 6 fitted the criteria he needed to prove the point, and lots of other factors were ignored. However, Ancel Keys 'research' is still the corner stone for all those news reports we get frightening us into taking statins! So it's really wonderful to have this site and a few really dedicated investigative journalists out there too.
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I started ACV & Honey for cholesterol on a daily basis on Feb. 20, 2012. At that time, my total cholesterol was 264, drinking the mixture once a day for about a month. I had blood work done on March 24, 2012, my total cholesterol was down to 233... The ONLY change was the mixture, I haven't even started working out, my physician was very impressed and told me while it was still high, it's much better and keep up the good work. I have not mentioned to her about the ACV & Honey (i'll do that later) but in short I just wanted to say this mixture has really worked for me. Best of Luck to everyone....
SIDENOTE: My diet consist of no fried foods, mostly baked, boiled, fruits and veggies... I do have "snacks" on occasion.
Thanks for sharing your remedies with us. Its really help us to reduce the risk of high cholestrol with naturally remdies. Is it possbile for you to tell us please how you where taking the combination of both. Means what was your daily dose.
I'm planning to start it- my cholesterol was 242 I need to control it as soon as possible.
thanks and regards...
I normally mix two (2) tablespoons of Raw Organic ACV (the mother of vinegar) & two (2) tablespoons of Organic Honey in an 8oz bottle of water and drink through-out the day on a DAILY basis... This is what helped for me. I really was/am amazed. Hope this helps and please keep me posted.
SIDE-NOTE: don't forget to mark your calendar as to when you started the mix, this has assisted me in monitoring my own progress/outcomes.
How much ACV and honey per dose?
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Hi to share my story about high cholesterol like everybody here. My cholesterol is around 250 low HDL high LDL I am very active, moderate diet (almost never overeat), Exercise at least every other day for at least 1 hour non stop. Still my cholesterol is inherited condition. Doctor sugested that I took statin. After about 2 weeks then I started feeling the side effects then called the doctor that sad to stop the medicine. Started checking sites on line then found EC site started reading about how many people have used ACV to lower cholesterol I was amazed. There has to be something good about it. Why the doctors do not prescribe it even if it works for 10-20 or more % of the people with high cholesterol I have no idea. Decided to give ACV a try to see if it will work better. Have altered my diet too. Today is 24 Dec 2011 will report in about 1-2 months. Thanks EC and all members for your info.
I face the same problem with high cholesterol and would like to know if you finally saw any results using the Apple Cider Vinegar. Thanks!
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Ok, here's my story. I'm a 49 yr old male who exercises 3x a week. I'm eat oatmeal for breakfast and turkey on whole wheat for lunch everyday. I eat a normal dinner. And don't eat sweets. I have always had a hard time keeping my cholesterol in check. Guess it's hereditary. I recently had my blood work back in Nov 2010. My numbers were : total cholesterol 226, HDL 156 and LDL 52. My doctor want to put me in a statin because my HDL kep going higher each year.
I searched on the internet for natural ways to lower cholesterol and found that apple cider vinegar was a cure to lower it. I went for my new blood work and told the PA that I was drinking AVC to lower my cholesteral. She gave me a smirk like I was wasting my time trying this.
Just got back my new bloodwork results and here they are: total 186 , HDL 126 and LDL 42. The nurse who read me my results suggested that I still consider statin medication since I will still over the HDL guideline of 100. I told her that I would pass.. So in 4 months my cholesteral dropped significantly. I drink Trader Joe's organic ACV. And I also added Bob Mill's flaxseed to my oatmeal in the morning. My advice is try and fix your "ailments" naturally before you start to take medication prescribe by your doctor who is getting kickbacks from drug companies.
(Houston, Select State/province)
Toneyroos, My Cholesteral is 210 (HDL- 126, LDL- 84). I am 43, thin, smoke, drink but eat healthy and take supplements. My Dr. thought my numbers looked great (not that different from yours). Keep in mind that almost as many people with regular and low cholesteral have heart attacks as do those with high cholesteral. Big pharma has gotten to your Dr.!!!
We need cholesteral to make hormones, including vitamin D, to give our cells structure and protection, help strengthen our immune system and to make bile that helps us break down fats.
Your LDL is low, that is what most Dr.s would worry about, not having a high HDL. We want a high HDL. If you are still concerned about your numbers, please do not take a statin, it restricts circulation of oxygen to your heart, cause muscle weakness and spasms. It can cause eye problems, and general loss of quality of health. Consider taking more fiber in your diet. This will absorb the cholesteral in your bile and prevent it from being reabsorbed back into your body via the intestinal wall. Consider niacin flushes (start with a very low dose to get used the the feeling of turning red and tingely! ).
There is so much good information here on this site, you will do so much better for your body by taking the natural route instead of listening to your Dr. on this one. I am blessed I have a great Dr. She spends up to an hour with me on most visits, and treats my whole person, not just the symptoms!
Can you tell me who your doctor is in Houston? I need one who cares about the whole person and who doesn't jump at the chance to put me on meds!
(Ottawa, Ontario, Canada)
My Dr. told me if you take 1 baby aspirin before taking niacin there will be no flushing and it works great.
(Des Moines, Iowa)
Doctors get kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies? My husband is a doctor. The only things he gets -- on occasion -- are samples, which help patients without insurance.
On another note, I am anxious to try the vinegar regimen! Thank you for the information.
I work in a Dr.'s office and Pharmaceutical companies also give very nice catered meals to Dr's and staff. (besides just samples.) But I do love this site and look through it often!
Doctors never like to even hear the word natural, after all they get paid to keep you sick! They don't believe in vitamins or natural cures. They are paid kickbacks for pushing medicine that has worse side effects then the problem you went in with. then you have nurses who think they know everything! I have used ACV for the last year, not even the organic, the regular stuff from the market, for psoriasis. Even that works!!!
I drink a tablespoon a day and wash my hair with it. Absolutely works!!! It even helps with acid reflux, crazy enough!
I'm a nurse and I don't claim to know everything, but I am more educated in medical practices than the general public. I actually promote natural alternatives to patients and encourage people to modify their diets and lifestyle in an effort to reduce dependence on pharmaceutical drugs.
In fact, my cholesterol lab results just returned high and I'm on this site perusing all the anecdotal evidence suggesting ACV and Red Yeast Rice reduces cholesterol. I plan to test this myself and run my labs in 6 weeks.
Why? Because even though I'm a nurse, my goal is not to put everyone, including myself, on drugs! Not all of us have succumbed to the pressure of Big Pharma. :)
Tried Red Yeast Rice for a while. Went to a doctor visit, and they told me I had blood in my urine. I immediately thought of the Red Yeast Rice, and told them I was taking it. They told me to discontinue and return for another urine specimen in a week. I did, and everything was fine.
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I have been taking ACV for almost some time now. Reason high cholesterol and so on. My reading taken on the 23/10/09
Cholesterol 7.73, Trigleycerides 1.33, HDL-C 0.94, LDL-C 6.19 and Chol: HDL Ratio 8.22 all in mmol/L measurment. I went on an offensive method thats ACV 2 cap full, Lemon 2 teaspoon and 1 teaspoon of honey with pipping hot water drinking slowly.
Current result taken on 07/01/2010
Cholesterol 4.63, Trigleycerides 1.55, HDL-C 1.05, LDL-C 2.88 and Chol: HDL Ratio 4.41 all in mmol/L. For me it works well but in term of loosing weight I don't see much. I introduced ACV to my Manager who has the same problem and never once see his result pass from the test. After my advise and taken for 3 or 4 weeks on daily basics last week result out shine my report.
Those with high cholesterol please try but please check with your doctors advise. I tried after reading from the net on the benefits. One important thing I was on medication too for cholesterol (Lovastatin). My managers report was the thing which confirm of ACV coz he never see a better result in all his testing.
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Having read a vinegar book i was later diagnosed with both boarder line diabetes and high cholestrol remembering the recipe i tried to reduce my cholestrol problem by use of ACV
the recipe is as follows:
2 cups of black grape juice
1 cup Apple Juice
1/2 cup ACV
mix, chill and drink 1/2 to 1 cup before your largest meal every day.
best to use concordia grapes they have the best tanin level. a good apple juice not consentrate gives fibre and the ACV. (dont use shop bought ACV for salads). unable to find a good local supplier i used ACV from a equine supplier fit for human consumption
my benifits are reduced weight, more energy, reduced lathergy and finding i also dont have 3AM hot sweats no more, just waiting for a blood test results for my cholestrol fingers crossed. Hopeful male
Update to previous publication: Apple Cider vinager, Recent blood test results back have shown excellent results (doctors words) previously 10.8 now 4.2 triglycerides, previously 6.2 cholestrol now 5, also lost 1 stone of weight but must start doing execise (not). A slight modification on the recipe i dont have the apple, i have increased the purple grape slightly with the cider vinager because what was not explained to me is i have boarderline diabetes and cholestrol taking the apple may increase my sugar level also since my blood test i have lost a futher 1lb in weight, over 5 months anyone trying these recipes good luck
What a disappointment after using Apple cider vinager for sometime now I have just been re-assessed with my doctor and the conclusion is that I have now got Accute pancreitis this seems to be my main trouble so now I am on a high quantity of flax oil two desert spoons and two high fish oil tablets, for the moment I have given up the ACV. I am due to go back to the doctors for another blood test if this shows that my AP problem has not reduced I will accept Statins and a high fish oil content capsules
I must stress the AP problem is not related to drink
Acute Pancreatitis is caused by high levels of Triglycerides which is what I am in danger of getting. It appears the ACV remedy does not work for this and I have yet to find a natural remedy. Statins have already sent me to the hospital so I refuse to take them. Has anyone else had this issue and found a natural remedy?
(Eugene, Or, Usa)
Shih Tzu Momma:
For elevated Triglycerides:
1.) Vitamin B5, (aka Pantothenic Acid & Pantethine.) Dosage: 300mg's three times daily.
2.)Psyllium Husk Powder: 1 heaping tsp. 1-2 times daily. My Family Practice Physician calls Psyllium Husk Powder the "Poor Man's Questran", (Questran is a Prescription Drug that treats elevated Triglycerides.)
3.) Guggullipids: A standard dose of guggul (plant extract) is 400-500mg taken three times daily with meals, totaling 1,200-1,500mg daily (although doses up to 2,000mg have been used before) If using the guggulsterones in isolation, a dose of 25mg taken thrice a day with meals is used.
4.) Omega 3's(e.g. Fish Oil, Krill Oil, Flaxseed Oil if you're a Vegetarian.) 4000 mg's of Fish Oil daily. I'm not sure about dosages on the other two.
(Fountain Inn, Sc)
Hello Shih Tzu,
Concerning "Acute pancreatitis"
From my reading and experience there are two causes of Pancreatitis.
The veterinarians observe something in the animal world that is called "Triadism" which is a problem that manifests when a problem develops with the gall bladder and then runs to the pancreas and then effects the liver. The three (hence "triad") adversely effect each other in sequence. I don't know which organ it usually first malfunctions.
Another form of cause for Pancreatitis is a viral or bacterial infection. For that if I had Pancreatitis I'd at least try Colloidal Silver which I've had great success with in quickly knocking out infections. I'd drink a lot for three days. Five tablespoons three times a day for three days and see if there was some relief. If so I'd continue for another week at lowered amounts.
Concerning "Triadism"...if that is the cause, then you'd have multiple organs involved, but even then I'm not so sure I wouldn't at least eliminate the issue of infection as a base line treatment. At least that's what I'd consider trying.
CS can be obtained at a health food store; and not all CS brands are the same. I'd consider buying two brands to make better my odds at getting one that had sufficient quality to kill the infection. I make my own so I know what works from years of experience.
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my sister was told by her doctor recently that she has high cholesterol. she asked him about using ACV for this and the doctor started laughing. now this really bothers me. obviously he has not done any research on this. if he had he would have told her that some people find it helps - even if he didn't believe in it himself.
this is a very bad thing; now my sister is not sure she should take it and she is now lipitor or something else for her cholesterol - and she is only 28. i can't believe that doctors don't do research. this is the same sister that has had many immune system problems and even had the lymph nodes under her arms removed. it seems to me that the doctors would be looking for less toxic aproaches to treating things like this but suprisingly her doctor is not.....
(Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin)
Apple Cider Vinegar: I have for many years (20 or so) taken daily 1tbs 3 times daily of the following home remedy. I do not get sick (sinuses once in a while) but almost never a cold. it helps with my arthritus, my hdl and ldl are good. and it help keep my blood sugar numbers down. a chiro gave it to me.
take one head garlic, chopped
1 cup cider vinegar
1 cup bottled water
- soak over night ( plastic container)
- in the a.m. add 1 cup bottled water
- take 1 tbs 3 times a day (i usually follow it with 6 oz of juice)
i swear by it.
EC: Thank you for the new recipe! Cross-posted to the apple cider vinegar recipes page.
(Mt. Healthy, Ohio)
(Yonkers, New York)
I am commenting on this message regarding ACV along with the garlic and water. I am on medication for type 2 diabetes, cholesterol and high blood pressure medication. I know that all of these medications can and will play havoc with your body. I am definately going to try this and hopefully it will take me off all meds. Thank you for this advise.
(Syerling Heights, Mi, Usa)