Treat for Fungus Infection
I'm 32, smoked 5-10 ciggarettes/day drank 5 beers/day for 15 years. At 25 I was diagnosed with Lichen Planus... Doctors gave me cortisone cream, didn't help. Found this site a few months ago, and have done some independant research since. Ted is awesome, by the way. This post is a little fast and loose, without sources. Basically, ENT Doctors commonly use Baking Soda, Vinnegar, and Borax added to other stuff, and categorize these as anti-infectives. It appears that DCA, which is currently being tested in Canada as an anti-cancer drug is a combination of Bleach, Vinnegar, and BakingSoda... which would seem to kill a bunch of infections.
Back to my problems. 3 months ago: I've got a white tongue, with bumps on the side of my mouth. I usually wake up congested, but it clears before 10am. Often I feel congested, and that makes me want another cigarrette.
I played the watch the clock game, and cut my smoking to 1 ciggarettes/day (after 7 pm)(back up to 3). I cut my drinking to 1 day per week. I started running 2 miles per day. It didn't help with my problems, although I lost 20 pounds.
I THINK that I have this thing figured out... I will post a follow-up in a few months, if I'm cured.
Studying Ted's "anti-infectives", first I tried going alkaline (borax and baking soda). This cleared my lungs, but made the bumps in my mouth worse.
Now I've gone in reverse, with the Apple Cidar Vinnegar only, and the bumps in my mouth are disappearing.
So here's my theory. There is a mayo-clinic study from a few years ago that says that most chronic sinus problems are caused by a fungus. As I had a yeast-like taste in my mouth, it was probably Candida. I went to the doc, and got some fluconazole, since the baking soda seemed to be clearing my lungs. Success on clearing my lungs... at least temporarily.... however, the bumbs in my mouth seemed to be getting worse.
It appears that these bumps are a "secondary infection", probably bacterial or viral. Since one problem was cured, I switched to 2 TBSP or Apple Cider vinegar, 2x per day. I had an immediate outbreak of Lichen Planus on my fingers, which appears to be dissapearing completely after a week. Additionally, the bumps in my mouth are 50% reduced.
There was a new study that came out last week that said men have cleaner hands than women, and are less likely to get skin infections, due to their hands are more acidic.
This lichen planus stuff kind of looks like warts, with a dark(blue) center. Since I've been taking ACV... the center of this stuff is red, like it's healing.
So I think I had Candida with a secondary infection, and the secondary infection(Lichen Planus) is cured by ACV.
I need some time to completely cure this stuff... but I think I did this in reverse. First start with the ACV to cure the secondary infection(Lichen Planus), then clear the yeast infection (Baking Soda or Borax or Flucon-azole).
On the white tongue... listerine doesn't help, biotene mouthwash doesn't help. Flouride toothpaste doesn't help. Brushing my tongue with either Baking Soda or Borax or Both and/or combining Hydrogen Peroxide, will turn my tongue completely red.
It will turn white again within 2 days... I've got some kind of infection. This stuff seems to help, though. I've been very impressed with that 20-mule borax stuff, in spite of the fact that the white tongue comes back.
Borax is not to be feared, just follow Ted's small dosage. His dosage is well reasoned.
(Seattle, WA, USA)
to 32-y.o. Rich of boca raton. your white tongue - "thrush" - indicates your immune system is still overwhelmed by chronic systemic yeast. i had it for decades. read Dr. Crooks' The Yeast Connection. there are also other good books at your health foodstore/pharmacy which deal with chronic systemic yeast. i tried fluconazole but longterm solution is careful diet and detoxifying your environment. you MUST conquer your chronic systemic yeast, or else you will get worse health problems because your immune system is overwhelmed by yeast. i'm 57-y.o. and been there. in my case, i had to overcome various junkfood addictions, about which i was in profound denial. beware, and good luck.
Turmeric Stopped My Candida
Since taking an antibiotic a few months ago, I have been plagued with a Candida overgrowth in my bladder. So painful, and I couldn't leave home. I was taking natural anti-fungals, expensive probiotics, and following the pesky (but helpful) Candida diet.
Then I had a bad flare-up of arthritis, and remembering that turmeric worked wonders with that before, I ate curries for two weeks straight. (Fortunately I love curries!)
Anyway, not only did my arthritis symptoms abate significantly, but my Candida symptoms disappeared!
I can discontinue the expensive probiotics, or at least take less of them, and I don't have to stay strictly on the Candida diet, so long as I have turmeric in some form at least five days a week. I have just learned about turmeric tea, which means I can eat other types of meals besides curry all the time! And, it's great to be able to go out and about again without diving for bathrooms all the time.
(Forest Park, Ohio, Usa)
Hello, I have been on a candida diet for the past 5 weeks and I am taking turmeric. Any way I was taking a tablespoon of turmeric for maybe two to three weeks 3 times a day and my husband said I started smelling not good. I looked at the recipe and saw you only take a teaspoon so that's what I'm doing now. It also said take almond oil. I can't find almond oil, is coconut oil OK.? Well since I was taking so much I am having trouble having a bowl movement since I stopped taking so much the last two days I've had a bowl movement. But they say you have to have 3 bowel movements to get well. Is that so? They say you can take turpentine to get rid of candida but you have to have 3 bowel movements before you use it, but you didn't use it and got better, is that right? What to I have to take to have more bowel movements. Carol
Regarding turmeric and body odor when taking it:
I rescued an Akita, very ill and stressed. I added turmeric powder to his sardines and rice daily. He started to smell like cat pee. Didn't put it together until I read on an animal natural health blog that that odor is from ingesting turmeric, and the solution is to add cinnamon. It worked for Rocky. He is so healthy now and smells great. Vet is amazed at the transformation.
Hi, recently, well today, I've came across Turpentine for Candida. Would this be safe for an 18 year old to consume and if so how much should I take? Here is what I have, which may or may not help:
- white tongue
- psoriasis on scalp/forehead
- brain fog
- strained eyes / losing vision!
- on my left leg, by the shin, I get muscle spasms
- irregular BM
- very tired
Thank you so much.
Turpentine definitly works. It works in multiple ways. One is that it breaks up bio-films but there are other things that do that too. I found this article that names a number of things that work that can be added to Bill's protocol. I am wondering if anyone else has tried any of them?
I've tried some of them in the past but I didn't know about bio-films then and I think the turpentine works through out the body. I am going to try the turpentine in nose spray because if you have any candida in the mucus of the sinuses then a little drip down the throat will restart up the candida in the intestines.
Hello Mr. Bill Thompson: My question is the following on the frequency and turpentine protocol: what is the proper protocol for taking the turpentine cleanse for a chronic candida overgrowth?, I have searched the internet very extensively, and have spoken to Dr. Jennifer Daniels on various occasions, here in Panama where she is at the present moment. She is an advocate of vitality capsule to clean and have 2-3 bowls movements a day, and the Sugar/ turpentine protocol 1:1,2 times a week, and then a maintenance does every 3 months.
Now if you go the oil protocol she recommends - castor oil over olive oil at a 4:1 oil to turpentine. I have just recently started the turpentine / olive protocol on a 1:1 2 times week going on my 4th dose in 2 weeks. I still do not know what to expect, other than a little dizzy and hyper for a bout 4 hours or so, but I drink about 4 glasses of water and it calms me down.
I have been on a pretty strict diet for 1 year, low low processed sugar, lots of good drinking water - maybe 3 quarts of water daily, fresh broccoli, fresh fruit, ( bananas, papaya, kiwi ), oil pulling 2 times a day with EVCO, supplement with a good multivitamin men's one, 150 mcg kelp, Molybdenum chelated, organic raw apple cider 1 teaspoon 2 times and 1 whole fresh lemon 1 a day, 2 probiotics daily 15million CFU, milk thistle, MSM, raw plain yogurt, walnuts, pumpkin seeds, gluten free brown rice, skinless chicken, fresh fish, home made tortillas, 1 hard boiled egg every other day. Which oil protocol do you feel is more effective, the castor or olive and protocol, since do I do not want to go the sugar route at all.
Thank you, Cheers, Nicholas
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Nickyg...In answer to your question, the proper protocol for candida is to take one teaspoon of turpentine, with between 1-4 tablespoons of castor oil once or twice every week. Castor oil(CO) is used for the following reasons:
* It inhibits candida and kills bacteria primarily in the gut.
* It quickly helps to rid the intestines of intestinal poisons and heavy metals(from candida/bacterial biofilm) by laxative action.
* Most importantly castor oil helps to more effectively spread the turps throughout the intestines to kill the bad pathogens. The intestines in an adult is 28 ft long and has the surface area of a tennis court.
i would not use olive oil with turps. But you can use coconut oil on its own or with the castor oil if you want -- VCO is also a particularly strong anti-pathogen.
About three weeks ago I had a fairly serious bout of food poisoning. After about 4 days with symptoms of shooting pains, gas, non-stop gurgling throughout my intestines, many visit to the toilet with hot, watery stools, disturbed sleep, low energy etc, I took 1 teaspoon of turps with 1 tblspn of castor oil. Next day all these symptoms had shifted to my lower intestines and I still had diarrhea. I wasn't cured but the upper part of my intestines did not have these symptoms.
So after a day's rest I took a higher dose of CO -- one teaspoon of turps and 3 tablespoons of CO with one tblspn of VCO. Next day my intestinal problem was completely gone -- I was back to normal. This higher CO dose had reached the lower intestines and managed to eliminated the infection quickly.
This result is proof that you need to take the right amount of CO with the turps for the turps to be an effective anti-pathogen throughout ALL the intestines.
I know that Dr Daniels maintains that problems like skin blackening can an occur when you take excessive amounts of turps. It's true that any excessive candida/bacterial poisons in the gut will lead to excessive poisons in the blood. And if you have a liver that is already stressed or diseased from removing poisons -- the liver will be unable to clear this excess poison load so the skin, which is also a major excretory organ, tries to excrete these poisons as well -- hence the skin blackening symptoms.
So I disagree with Dr Daniels here. The blackening of the skin is not necessarily always due to intestinal blockages, but can also obviously arise if the liver cannot cope with the excessive release of candida poisons from gut to blood with the turpentine protocol. This is why I always advocate liver support nutrients like ALA, Magnesium, Selenium, Milk Thistle etc whenever you are killing large amounts of candida. Chanca piedra is another good one.
For the last 8 months or so I''ve been working with a parents autism group who are following Kerri Rivera's Protocol to cure their kids ASD problems -- using Chlorine Dioxide(Jim Hubble's MMS protocol) together with Hulda Clark Parasite Protocol and diet. Children with ASD problems are always infected with parasites and candida which apears to be the main cause of autism.
I was contacted by the leader of this ASD group because he could get no further improvement on the ATEC scores for his ASD child using Kerri's protocol. ATEC measures various parameters of the chid -- cognitive ability, shyness, repetitive behaviours, sociability etc. So I've been helping to advise them. So far two kids have have regressed to normal behaviour while using the turps protocol within Kerri's protocol. Usually it takes about 2 years to achieve normal behaviour in kids with ASD using Kerri's protocols. So, incorporating the turps protocol as well seems to speed up recovery from autism.
To show you the virulence of candida and what other diseases it can lead to -- have a look at this diagram:
Candida Virulence and Progression
To show you the action of my own anti-candida protocol -- see this link:
Bill's Anti-Candida Protocol Activity
I've also written a detailed book about candida that is sold on EarthClinic but you can find most of the information about the complete protocol from my posts on this site as well.
Above all, you must have a clear strategy, with sufficient cogent reasons, to get rid of your candida. From my book, here is the strategy that I use:
Anti-Candida and Anti-Pathogen Protocols
Essential Detox Protocols
Liver Support Protocols
Vitamin and Mineral Support (Immune System Support)
The Anti-Candida Diet
Other nutrients that will also help against candida/bacteria are olive leaf, oregano, Boswellia(Frankincense), Myrrh and undecylenic(or undecanoic) acid. You can research these.
(Panama City, Panama)
Mr. Bill: Wow very extensive reply okay, I get it; your preferred protocol is 1 tsps. turpentine with 1 to 3 tbsp. of castor oil and 1 tsp. of the VCO.
This is once or twice a week as starters, and then you cut back to once a week maintenance dose for how long?.
I will use the 1tsp of the organic diamond turpentine along with 1 or 2 tbsp. of CO and 1 tsps. of VCO as starters and see how it goes okay, then I will take a 10 day break and resume on a once week protocol.
I am shooting for the right balance and turpentine protocol along with the antifungals, probiotics and supplements. I had a while back, a bad die-off reaction episode. I was doing the grape fruit seed extract 2 times a day 125 mg, and the now candida clear 2 times a day, now probiotics 10-25 billion CFU 2 times day.
After a week I got a skin rash break out with an itch, it was mostly underarm armpit rash and genital rash, started the molybdenum, stop all the antifungals except the probiotics and that has helped, it clamed things down. The deal here Mr. Bill is not going crazy with too many supplements and getting dependent on them. This can stress you out, which can make you wonder when or if ever will I control this candida overgrowth, because it seems like you make 1 foot of progress only to drop back and lose 2 feet.
This is something new I've had for the past 2 years since I was on a antibiotic treatment for about 2 to 3 weeks after a motorcycle accident, this along with the stress I had, was the trigger. Things got worse with the fungal treatment and steroid creams, which I then hit my zenith, and then it had spiraled out of control and I was really stressed out. But now today, I know what is the cause and protocol procedures, at least I am not lost in space like 2 years ago when this hit me all of a sudden and had me scrambling for answers, as to why the food sensitivities, skin rashes, bloated feeling and hives breakout in my forearms and neck.
I strongly feel that sharing good information from experience, with trial and error and being truth full is key here at this forum. Some have more experience like yourself, others have a different approach, etc. etc., but the bottom line here is controlling the Candida overgrowth which has spiraled out of control and is making our health and daily lives' miserable. Thanks for all your information, support, shared information, knowledge and the time to answer not only my questions and concerns, but the many others who write to you as well.
Cheers, GOD BLESS and keep up the good work, since its all about sharing information from our experiences. Nicholas
(Panama City, Panama)
Mr. Bill: What time of the day is the best moment to take the once a week turpentine protocol, (1tsp organic diamond turp/2tpsns. of CO/1tspns. CVO). Before dinner, after dinner, a few hours after dinner, or maybe an hour before bed? How do you react or feel after you take your turp protocol - okay?
(Panama City, Panama)
Mr. Bill, I just bought your book okay, want to clarify 3 things about the turps/ castor oil/ evco protocol. Best time to take it, frequency to take it and proper ratio of Turps/ castor oil / EVC oil. This is what I am doing at the moment unless you specify otherwise. Every 10 days ( 3 times a month ), 1 tspn of diamond turps, 2 tbspn Castor Oil, 1 tbspn EVC oil, followed by 2 glasses of spring water. Taking a good multivitamin, kelp, MSM, kelp morning at evening take 250mcg molybdenum chelated and jarrows milk thistle, before bed 1 1000m L-Glutamine / 1- Garden of life ultimate probiotic.
Awaiting reply, cheers, Nicholas
(San Fernando, Philippines)
Hi Nickyg...I would take the multivitamin and kelp with breakfast. The MSM and molybdenum should be taken together on their own outside meals because molybdenum gets absorbed into the blood better with MSM and water.
Take the Turps + CO + VCO about 20 minutes before eating some food. I normally take 1 teaspoon of turps with 3 tablespoons of CO and one tblspn of VCO -- but I'm nearly 200 lbs in weight. So if you weigh less then you should perhaps adjust down the CO and VCO accordingly.
It's best to initially take turps this way because turps is not very soluble or miscible in water and you initially need it to act in the intestines. And the CO and EVCO with the food helps to carry and spread the turps remedy deeper into the intestines where it can do the most good killing pathogens there.
Later on, when you are relatively clear of pathogens in the intestines, you might consider taking turps with some water only -- this time taking it outside mealtimes. This way, on an empty stomach, the turps gets rapidly absorbed directly from the stomach into the blood -- and this is where the turps will help to get rid of any further pathogens that are in the blood, organs and tissues.This turps method is particularly useful as a remedy if you have any serious bloodborne infectious diseases.
For a long time now, on a daily basis, I also take about three or four drops of turps in my mouth and just hold it there, spreading it around. Turps will kill all the bad stuff in the mouth and is also absorbed quickly into the gums and roots of the teeth to act as a disinfectant in these regions. You should hold the turps in your mouth for at least 2 minutes -- longer if possible -- and its ok to swallow it. I cured a wobbly and painful capped tooth root infection this way and the tooth still remains healed and firm to this day.
I normally advise taking the turps + CO remedy once or twice a week for serious candida problems-- but if 10 days suits you better that should be OK.
The milk thistle and glutamine can been taken at any time -- but usually best to take these supplements with meals.
If you find that you aren't making much progress or headway with your protocol after a few months, I would also seriously consider adding lugol's iodine(higher dose), borax and alkalizing to your protocol as well as per my book. This threesome has also worked very well for me against candida problems in the past.
(Panama City, Panama)
Mr. Bill thanks once again sir for your prompt, professional and courteous reply. This my routine, first thing out of bed, I rinse my mouth with spring water and spit it out, then do 10 minutes oil pull with EVCO, and spit it out, rinse my mouth out with salt water 4 ounces, then I take half a lemon with 6 ounces warm water, then I take my 1- 1000mg pill l glutamine with 1 probiotic pill, after 10 -15 minutes I have my breakfast, and after my breakfast, in the morning I take, 1 men's one multivitamin, 1 kelp 150 mcg, 1 omega krill oil 500mg.
For lunch I take just 1 teaspoon of organic ACV with lunch, in the evening meal I take another teaspoon of organic ACV and after dinner I take 1 milk thistle. 2 to 3 hours later before bed I take L glutamine, probiotic, and now I will add the molybdenum and MSM okay upon your advice, will this interfere with my L glutamine sport (now foods) / probiotic (primal defense ultra).
During the day I make sure to drink 8 to 10 glasses of water okay. The only fruit I eat is at breakfast where I make a daily shake of 2 small cups of orange juice, 1 banana, cup of papaya, 1/4 granola, 1/4 walnuts for the fiber. I am 63 years old 6 feet tall and now weight 154lbs I lost 15 lbs after my motorcycle accident back 2012, and have not been able to gain it back, due to this new restricted diet okay. The idea is be stress free as much as possible and not worry about taking too many pills and supplements . On the turps protocol ( turps/ CO/ EVCO ), I will stick with the 10 day revolving time frame and later on try the turps with water to clean the blood. I greatly appreciate what you do for myself, others and the earth clinic community. Just for curiosity how old are you, are you Filipino?, I am a great fan and follower of my favorite boxer Manny Paquiao. Awaiting reply, take care and cheers, Nicholas
I read all these articles which assert the causes for candida, among them being poor diet diet high in processed foots and sugars, antibiotic use, 'acidic' pH and ''leaky gut.'' I don't agree. Being a puritan, these causes have never applied to me, yet I had recurrent thrush. I believe it to be stress related, for me. Whatever the reason, the remedy is more important than energy wasting digging for causes. Its an endless game. I'm shocked by some of the severe protocols suggested by some which I liken to applying agent orange to an environment, and these extreme protocols threaten to completely obliterate everything in the bodies ecosystem.
I've found Undecylenic acid. (10-undecenoic acid) is an eleven-carbon, mono-unsaturated fatty acid occurring naturally in the body's perspiration. While several fatty acids have beneficial effects on the flora that naturally inhabit the gastrointestinal tract, undecylenic acid is the most potent. It aids in the establishment of healthy gut and vaginal flora and is x6 beneficial than caprylic acid. It is a naturally occurring constituent of castor oil, which is isolated.
Along with the candida diet you need to start on a low dose and work your way up, because even for me the detox symptoms were pretty intense, although I didn't get the common ones. Mine were more ''emotional'' symptoms such as severe anxiety, ''flushes'', feeling ''spaced out'', fatigue, foggy etc. I really recommend everyone give it a go! I believe it is the most powerful antifungal out there. Still in the process but feel I'm on the way to restoring the imbalance. After all, candida was with us when we were born and will be when we die. Do you know that after the body dies, candida actually continues to live and ''eat'' the body? Its true. You cant eradicate it completely, but you can restore balance. All the best!
Urine Therapy (UT) SAVED MY LIFE! Before I was willing to try it, two friends who did not know each other came to me within a week and told me about this therapy. I actually yelled at one of them to get away from me! The idea was completely repulsive and I was sickened even by the mere conversation of such a horrid deed!!
However, a day or so later I asked one of them to loan me one book of three she had offered me. I then read the other two books and decided to give it a try.
When I first drank the flavor was disgusting, but the thousands of miracule cures I read about spurred me on and suffered through the taste. After you drink a time or two the harsh flavor lessons and it is far more paletable.
At the time I had SEVERE food allergies, my immune system had crashed the year prior and I was isolated from the world I had suddenly become allergic to everything. In seeking medical help nothing worked, the AMA said I was nuts and should be on anti-depressants and depression meds, they could find nothing wrong with me. The alternative world wanted to charge me an arm and a leg for their offerings which I tried many, but eventually ran out of money. UT was all that was left for me. Eventually from daily use of drinking and rubbing it in my skin my chemcial allergies subsided, my food allergies were abated and my skin was incredibly clear and smoothe!
I've used UT on and off since 1996. Today I am severely ill from a virus and have been drinking to try and relieve the symptoms. I believe I may have picked up candida from going back to wheat and sugar again. Not good thinking on my part.
One week ago I began eating sugar and wheat free, sipping through out the day while swishing and gargling to relieve thrush symptoms. UT is perfectly balanced for us because it is made by our bodies. It IS STERILE as it comes out - so drink to your health and wellbeing. Storing for later use is ONLY good for exterior applications NOT DRINKING.
Good luck to all and I do comprehend the initial repulsion at first blush - I had it too, BUT some of us are so severely ill we will try anything and so thankful I did!
More toxins yes - but also more antibodies..... I would stick with urine therapy for 2 weeks than switch to something else for another 2 weeks (turmeric, alkalizing, DMSO, H202, borax, etc). It is said that candida gets used to whatever you taking to fight it in about 2 weeks and so do parasites who are also said to cause candida.
Hi my name is Kavita Ballah. i am a Mauritian, married and mother of two kids 22 & 18 yrs. i am now 43 yrs old. i had surffered from candida since 24 yrs now. i have never known what it's like not to suffer & not take medicines. All my life i have struggled and fought for my health. i tried so many things but there has never been a cure. i was very sick. For a very long time.
i tried all kinds of herbs and chemicals that exist on the market home and abroad. i spent all my saving going around the world ( US,UK,India,malaysia,Indonesia,Reunion island) in search of relief.In 2001, i had hysterectomy followed by adhesion on the left which nearly killed me.
3 months back, i was told i had Pelvic inflammatory disease, adhesion on the left again, left ovarian cyst 5.8 cm for the 4th time( had ablation done once), vaginal yeast infection, chronic cystitis, sinus infections and chemical allergies.
i knew about Urine Therapy some 10 yrs back. a friend insisted i should do it. Did not trust it that much then until one night i was on my knees crying becuase of pain in my lower abdomen. i just remembere UT. Next Morning i started on it and immediately my pain reduced to 20%. That day i did it whole day and the next dat my pain was down.i was suppose to go for surgery on the 3rd day. i postponed it and for following week. i gave myself one more week to decide. within 5 days my cyst shrunk and all my pain reduced to 60%. i started beleiving in it and from that day till now i am continuously drinking urine in the morning.
My chronic cystitis and yeast infections has disappeared . After one months, i was a new person. Today it's nearly 3 months and i am happy to confirm that i don't suffer anymore. my sexual life is so beautiful and i see life full of values.
This is a message to all women who are suffering from Candida. Urine therapy is the answer girls.
(Abu Dhabi, UAE)
(San Francisco, CA)
(Latin America, La)
It's not disgusting if it is what cures you :-)
Urine is not disposal like feces is. Urine is sterile, and in fact, you "recycled" it in your mother's womb for 9 months. In fact your body recycles it today still, just sending excess of it to the bladder for disposal. Our bodies reuse what it can.
I have tried it but I couldn't get over the icky factor. However if you research urine therapy with an open mind you will find some fascinating info.
I don't think so :( I've tried many things on this site and feel that I am open-minded, but that is a little much. I have recommended this site to many of my friends and family, but after reading this bizarre post, I will stop never do that again. It also makes me re-think some of the other "cures" I have read about here on this site -- if anyone can just post anything, no matter how weird or disgusting. There MUST be SOME kind of filter by whomever runs this webpage so that you are not viewed as totally crazy and bizarre, and then the GOOD things that are recommended are overlooked because of things like this one. But, "to each his own", I suppose.
That's cool too, you can have your own opinion. But I think you missed the whole point of this website. If you are the kind of person that believes shared knowledge should be censored, then you might as well just go to the CDC, AMA, FDA, ACS, NIH websites, etc, and follow their recommendations. Because censoring is what they do.
Urine therapy has worked for hundreds of years (maybe thousands?) for a lot of people. It didn't work for me, but hey, I'm ecstatic it is an option that worked for others!
(Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France)
Betty, I have never tried urine therapy, not because I am not curious about it but because I believe that if you have a health problem, you many times find out because of the stuff that comes out in your urine so why would I want to be drinking the bacteria or whatever else that makes me ill in the first place? Just imagine a bladder infection, don't you find out what it is exactly because of the bacteria found in your urine? So far no one has been able to give me a satisfactory explanation for that an? Therefore I have never tried.
True, it sounds a bit far fetched but as far as being disgusting what do you think about other therapies being used all over the world which kill people and are no good except for those making money from them, do you find that disgusting too? I could mention a few, like chemotherapy, needless operations, treatments that make people worse then they were when they started, completely wrong nutritional advice that has impared a whole generation..... Ever thought of that as disgusting? What about all the medication sold in perfectly honorable pharmacies that have killed hundreds of thousands of people? Disgusting too? Or have you never thought about that? Compared to all that maybe Urine Therapy is not that disgusting after all!
One last thing..... What about the trying to prevent anyone finding a cure for illness like cancer that kill people in droves all over this planet and cause huge suffering so that they earn more money or the "right" person gets the Nobel prize for it? Disgusting as well? And the persecution of all those who have fought for our wellbeing? See... I believe you are a good person but I also believe that you are a person who needs to do a bit of independent research so that you know where you stand! And.... there will always be treatments you agree with and which work for you and those which don't, that's life.....
Before speaking you should read about urine therapy. You sound pretty ignorant about that subject.
(Princeton, New Jersey)
Betty, please do not dismiss a therapy just because of your 'ick' factor. This is a forum where people post therapies that have worked or pose questions about solving their health issues. Urine therapy is an ancient form of treatment and it's benefits have been well-documented, as you would have found out if you had cared to do a web search. Yes, it is not for everyone and I fully understand (being one myself) but I have personally seen it work for a family member with a chronic skin problem. So I know it definitely has something to it. You remind me of a friend who scoffs at acupuncture saying sticking needles into one in hopes of a cure is just hogwash! I think it just airs one's ignorance.
Hmmm. drinking urine or having the constant aroma of the gainesville chicken plants... Decisions drive me nuts! Research before reactions please!
(Elsewhere, Ca, Usa)
Betty, You are not the only one that feels this way. I have been reading this site regularly for a couple of years and have always felt that the practice is repulsive. I have never said anything because I knew there would be a huge backlash.
The fact is that Webster's dictionary defines urine as waste, and according to webMd.com, if the kidneys did not remove these wastes, they would build up in the blood and make a person ill. In some cultures, even animal urine is consumed as medicine. In ancient times, dung was used as a poultice for wounds - really not a good idea! Just because some people have done this sort of thing for thousands of years doesn't make it an intelligent choice and certainly doesn't make it any less repulsive.
I'm with you, Betty. It's nasty!
(Manganui, Northland, New Zealand)
Hang on!! If someone is badly burnt and nothing is available to treat the burn... believe it or not urine is the best remedy.. After a while in the air it turns into streptomyacine.. and all the broken down cells act as a nutrient. There have been many cases where really bad burns have been healed with little scaring. Nature wastes nothing.
I don't subscribe to this practice myself, but apparently NASA does. NASA has used a urine recycler since 2008. This was in a headline on July 11th this year: The crew of Atlantis, the final mission of the US space shuttle program, are testing a urine recycling system developed by NASA that is capable of turning astronauts' pee into a tasty sports drink.
You can find the articles by searching Google. It's pretty interesting.
(Naperville, Illinois / Usa)
Betty - Even though I would never consume my own urine, it is my belief that if this therapy helps people I have no right to criticize their choice. By the way, the main ingredient of the estrogen replacement thereapy drug Premarin is urine, hence the name Premarin comes from PREgnant MARes uRINe. That has never been a secret. Also, urea (derived from urine) is often listed as an ingredient in cosmetics.
Please don't criticize a wonderful website because you find one therapy disgusting. Many people have been helped with advice from all over the world for their various ailments.
(Tampa, Florida, Usa)
Personally, I would not consider "urine therapy" under any circumstances, no matter how dire. However, if people really want to do such a thing, then it is their own business. That's what freedom means. Even though I happen to be repulsed by this therapy, that does not mean it should be censored from EarthClinic. If consenting adults wish to use this therapy, they are free to do so.
For my part, I'll stick with ACV. That's hard enough to get down sometimes.
Hi, Carolyn - If you will read the thread, the topic is Urine Therapy, not Urine recycling. I know about NASA using that procedure. From what I have researched (yes, I have researched it), it is the DRINKING of your own urine (not cleansed in any way) that I find disgusting. AND by the way I have NOT "criticized" others doing this. I just said that I found it disgusting, and I do. I have had several ailments that I was desperate to find a cure for, but I would NEVER consider doing something like that. There are always far-out "snake oil" theories out there, so "go for it" if you are so inclined. My main point was that posting that as a "therapy" will scare many people away from what otherwise would be a beneficial resource for effective home-remedy type treatments. They will see this site as a JOKE instead of an actual serious attempt to help people. So, all you "open minded people", stop critiziing ME for having my own opinion on a disturbing "treatment" found in this site. I was very disappointed to see such bizarre, far-out-there suggestions on this site that I have come to find interesting and enjoy.
Vegan Diet for Candida
Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)
I struggled with sinus infections for years. Many antibiotics later, I had sinus surgery (they basicly scraped out my sinus membrane to allow a new healthy one to grow back). Unfortunatly, because I had taken so many antibiotics for the issue, fungus had taken hold in my body -this, I did not find out about until several years later. So for two years following my sinus surgery, I experienced a "smell" inside my sinus that smelled like old trash (as I reflect on it, it was a sweet stink much like you would smell from a trash can at the circus or carnival). I was cured of the sinus infections, yet emotionally miserable (I contemplated suicide because I was smelling trash 24 hours a day). I kept going to doctors, even an infectious disease Dr. and they kept putting me on more ANTIBIOTICS!!!
At this time I was also having some hormonal issues so I went to a Dr. that perscribed natural hormones and put me on a wheat and sugar free diet for two months. It worked wonders for my hormones as well as my sinus "stink". However, several years later, the stink came back and I did not have the discipline to follow the diet again. One day, shortly after the "stink" came back I blew my nose and a big BLACK CHUNK of something came out. Luckily I was able to save it in a sterile container that my Dr. had given me at an earlier date. I took it to my Dr. and she had it tested. It took about a month and a half for the specimen to grow. However, the wait was worth it... It was CANDIDA ALBICANS. (Note that it is very difficult to test positive for Candida Albicans because it is rare to get a good sample.. Most people do not just happen to blow a good sample out of their nose like I did! ) Fungus or yeast had been growing in my sinuses because of all the antibiotics I had taken. This makes sence why the wheat and sugar free diet worked.
After the diagnosis of candida, I began nasel washes with probiotics in my nasel wash solution of 2 parts salt to 1 part baking soda (about a quarter to a half teaspoon to a cup of warm water). I also added lavendar essential oil to the baking soda and salt (before adding it to water... I would mix up about a half cup of the b soda and salt and add two drops of Lavendar eo. - it is important to note that you should not use regular table salt... It has anticaking additives, use pickeling salt). I also took extra B vitamines. Lavendar and B3 are great antifungals (see the following links). Turns out that many cronic sinus infections were fungal related as studies are showing that most are...
B3 to treat fungal infections and antifungal effect of Lavendar oil:href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/ http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/07/100708141617.htm
I have been "stink free" for several years now and only have an occasional sinus problem that a nasal wash takes care of.
I hope that this helps someone struggling, Kathie
(Jersey City, Nj, Usa)
thanks for these tips Kathie. do you think these remedies could be used for intestinal candida issues? also, the B3 article specifically discusses the vitamin in the form of 'nicotinamide. ' how can I be sure that this is the specific form of B3 used in any particular supplement? I don't see it listed as an ingredient in the ones I've looked at. thanks ;)
(Houston, United States)
Randy, Nicotinamide can be purchased as a single ingedient vitamin. When my tongue had turned black from the candida, I began using lavendar "internally" in a way... I would gently scrape my tongue then rub in a couple of drops on my tongue 2-3 times per day. I have heard of people putting the essential oil on a charcoal tablet and then taking that internally, though I have never tried it.
Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)
Niacinamide- This needs vitamin c and vitamin E to be absorbed. There is a book called Mega Vitamin Therapy that talks about the synergystic effects of B vitamins and needing C and E to be absorbed. I usually take 2000 mg Vit C, 1000 Vit E, a good B vitamin complex with no yeast and 500 mg of niacinamide daily. This is very good for stress also as many people that have candida raise their PH by having stress in their lives
Vitamin B3 (Niacinamide)
It has been known in academic circles for sometime that vitamin B3 in the form of niacinamide (non-flushing) is relatively toxic to yeast. A scientist found several years ago and concluded (wrongly) that taking vitamin B3 niacinamide will shorten your lifespan or longevity, through suppressing the SIR2 silencing gene, which is responsible for longevity.
As a result of this little misinformation, people stopped taking niacinamide and candida and yeast infections skyrocketed. Now the reason for the mistake was relatively simple, the scientist was apparently doing a study on longevity on yeast cells. Apparently in higher animals, fruit flies included, the effect of adding niacinamide resulted in longer life of 15%, as well as human embryo cells.
Therefore, if you have candida, yeast infection, or possibly even a UTI (urinary tract infection), taking niacinamide between 100-500 mg/day could solve this mystery that doctors have a hard time suppressing. In fact, you can expand this idea into applying the use of niacinamide NOT NIACIN, as a means of controlling fungus, since fungus is a relatively close cousin of the yeast also.
This is interesting, since in medicine the two most hardest organism to kill is actually fungus and yeast. It is almost a death sentence if you have this and getting rid of it may mean endless nightmare. Who knows, perhaps dissolving niacinamide with vinegar will be helpful in relieving your toe nail fungus infections.
Therefore a possibility exists from the point of view of biological terrain, candida, yeast and fungus infection is a form of niacinamide deficiency.
Better But With Side Effects
I would like to comment on niacin for fungus infections and ask Ted some questions. I read about using niacin in the form of "inositol hexanicotinate" for acne. Within a week of taking 500mg per day of niacin/inositol hexanicotinate all my cysts are gone and other acne is totally gone. I have had acne for over 30 years and this to me is a miracle. My acne has always increased after antibiotic use and also is accompanied by fungus or candida symptoms. My fungal symptoms have lessened substantially in just a week too! The only problem is my insomnia is much worse now. I notice that the niacin seems to block my calcium because I get particular symptoms from low calcium and when I take niacin my calcium no longer works for my insomnia or my low calcium symptoms.
Questions.. What is your advice or thoughts on the niacin blocking my calcium? And.. Is the inositol hexanicotinate form of niacin also considered antifungal in the research you mentioned? Thanks much!
Wheat Grass Juice
In addition to all the other cures mentioned, Wheat Grass is what I call green gold...it is an elixir that purifies one's blood almost immediately. It may cause you to feel a bit of nausea initially, but that means it's working. Good Health to All.
This is what gets rid of candida for me:
- a wormwood combination product (from vitacost online) that contains wormwood, black walnut, cloves, quassia and male fern root.
- white oak bark taken on an empty stomach with a digestive enzyme,
- a really good probiotic (not one from your local drugstore)
- super strength odorless garlic capsules
It's very important to keep your body alkaline and a fizzy alkalizer with potassium bicarbonate and natural alkalizers works a lot better than baking soda to do this. I buy a good one online from swanson's.
I must eat complex carbs for energy, and so I take these remedies when the candida gets bad.
Xylitol, Bentonite Clay
Hello, I would like to share my cure. I had candida overgrowth for many years, due to too much penicillin and antibiotics when I was young. I had very bad yeast infections. I found xylitol and began using it in large doses, probably about 1/4 cup per day, which had a laxative effect. Immediately, I felt a lot better, but not 100%. Then I cleansed my intestines with bentonite - the candida sticks to the walls of the intestines, so the bentonite removes it, so it can't keep growing. Meanwhile, I was still eating xylitol, either by itself, or with recipes. Then I used a lot of acidophilus, and eventually, after about 6 months, I had no re-occurences. What relief! I might mention that I have written about this on another large health website, and some people reported headaches from the xylitol, due to alcohol content. Hope this helps someone.
(Los Angeles, California)
Guys, essential oil therapy!!!! Look up Dr young, and younglivingessentialoils.com. If you think they are a scam, (cuz there oils are expensive and they make alot of wild claims about curing things) research them on other forums, these oils really do work. In fact all essential oils work period.
I use the basic brands, cheap brands, like edens garden and Aura Cacia, and they work just fine. Y Altho, Young claims to use (for example clove) the whole entire plant to extract the oils not just the buds, which makes it more powerful. Also, google Dr Youngs recipe for super antibiotic essential oil formulas, amazing. I cured my interstitial cystitus and my moms COPD in a matter of days, using essential oils like, clove, rosemary, lavender, peppermint, cinnamon, and sandlewood oils. Look up essential oil antibiotic recipes online, You put various drops in Empty 00 gelcaps.
I used to think essential oils were dangerous to use, (and they are, in excessive amounts) but this is incredible.
They work better than antibiotics. I also treat my Vulvodynia, successfully with essential oils, including frankenscense and Myrrh. Please do your research on esssential oil therapy and Dr young.
Yogurt for candida - If you are feeding yogurt try to find a "greek" yogurt. There is much less sugar in greek type yogurt than any other- even organic yogurt has excess sugar which feeds the yeast.