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That night I applied 50/50 DMSO and colloidal silver to the lump. The next morning it had shrunk and no longer looked inflamed. I called the vet and she said keep it up. I continued to apply this mix morning and evening for a few weeks and it continued to shrink into a smaller hard lump under the skin. I cancelled the surgery. When it got about the size of a marble it wasn't shrinking anymore, so I stopped the application. That was over two years ago, and the shriveled up lump is now about the size of a pea. A vet who recently saw Bonnie for another matter noticed the lump and she said she wouldn't worry about it. I honestly think we beat cancer. Bonnie also had a harmless fatty tumor (diagnosed by two vets) near her shoulder for years. When I applied the same mix to it, overnight it also shrunk up into a small condensed lump.
February 26, 2021 Update:
I took a little eye dropper bottle and filled it half with silver and half with DMSO. I took an empty bottle and filled it half with silver and half with DMSO, then shook it.
the silver was Source Naturals. I used a medicine dropper, then smoothed it gently with my finger to make sure it was covered. I suggest you try it on a small lump and see if you like the outcome, then take it from there. Please post and let us know.
May 20, 2021 Update
Recently the vet did a needle biopsy and it turned out to NOT be cancerous. I don't want to mislead anyone about anything so serious.
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This has helped lead us to "neoplasene". I was unable to find any vet assistance for bloodroot or neoplasene from any of our 4 vets, and also dead end leads from me calling around tirelessly around the Midwest to holistic and natural vets. If it wasn't a skin tumor they passed me off, sadly.
I did finally receive an appointment with a natural vet clinic in Kansas and she has been working with neoplasene for cancer treatments for 15+ years. We should be receiving the RX next week. She recommends oral even for OS cancer, as injecting is "very painful".
A few things I've learned so far that seem like good information to share forward to EC.
Per this Vet -- It cannot be used with antioxidants and is not compatible with a raw meat diet. So she has advised waiting at least 6 hours before taking anything such as fish oil, Budwig flax+protein, Vit C (which we include in Lysine/Threonine hourly cocktails in the morning). Due to the time constraints of taking oral neoplasene every 12 hours with food(! ), it may mean taking a break from some of these other treatments. It's a leap of faith for sure to change tracks.
I have found zero information on bloodroot or neoplasene specifically for osteosarcoma or bone cancers! This is our focus. Lots of good information for skin and soft tissue cancers though.
Has anyone else had any experience here? I am hoping for a big reduction of tumor size altogether, and desperately hoping for a cure of course.
Please share.
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The Lysine, Ted may not say this? In my case, I would stay with the lysine, throughout this. It is harmless to healthy bodies. It kills the bad stuff. So maybe, if I were on your path, 3 days. 2 off. Then 3 days. Ted usually ups the amount of times a day, when he writes to the most serious questions. Lysine and threonine are our immunity. They build it. If we and our pets were living clean and not vaccinated, chances are we would derive enough from food and digestion. This is no longer the case.
In our case, the devastation vaccination wrought on our dogs was devastating.
My Mom took in every stray, at one time, 12 dogs. Sometimes less. I saw poor little messes turn into healthy good dogs. Just eating and being loved. They lived on pet food but in the 60s and 70s food was an entirely different matter. That and they only got a rabies shot. Were dewormed.
We had passels of guinea pigs when we homeschooled our kids, dogs birds, rabbit, cats. They were not the pets I grew up with. Their challenges were crazy hard. The guinea pigs all got kidney stones, tumors. They all were too fat. My trek for healing our family included those little piggies.
As we healed, appropriate to their diet, vegetarian, we began treating them. Lysine was my first tool. It extended their lives. Improved their lives. The cat lived to be nearly 20. Key to cat health, liver, lysine.
The dogs it was 1 thing after the other. Their 4 year shots brought disaster. Epilepsy, bad thyroids, ACL tears, ear infection, tumors, cataracts, anxiety.
I was overwhelmed, first and foremost was always diet. Off commercial food.
Magnesium, mag phos, chamomilla, rhus tox, liver, liver sausage, no nitrates, our butcher grinds beef hearts and organ meats. Looks like hamburger. I cannot face too many organs, lol. A local farmer cans his pot roast, shoulders, for human consumption, cooked, no additives. It became the dog food. It was hard to convince our doodle to eat raw. So lightly cooked meats and that food.
That was the mainstay, the throat collapse of our retriever was due to nonabsorption of selenium, so as each thing cropped up, if Ted had not addressed it, on to Google and studies.
1 of those 4 dogs is still with us, she is 12 now, but her ear problems and fatty tumors remain/persist. Her cancer is gone. Fatty tumors are different and grow. I am going to start her on azoxystrobin and BHT this weekend. These, Ted talks about in this email below. The cannabutter for them was a godsend.
As far as Tannic, I buy from wine makers supply. Golden in color. There are brown ones, Ted specifically says golden.
The bone broth, bulletproof has been so reliable. I use it as a tool, extra nutrients, cilantro, lecithin. Whatever we are facing it is my absorption tool. In my family, it helped our daughter with narcolepsy get on her feet, the profound exhaustion. Sleep no rest. Our other daughter it was the first thing in her healing. It began digestion where she had none. 25 years of mystery illness. It started her gut. All of our other efforts only got her so far then she would just stop. It was the tool that got her on her feet. I give it, as a go out the door with a lysine remedy if a virus tries to get started around here. Nutrition boost, digestion, intestine, digestive juncture start. So it does not look like Dave Asprys version in my house, here it is a kick start. Bone broth, vegetarian broth, for one daughter. It is a good drink to boost someone in hospital. It is a great carrier and lightens some of the load when you are doing so many things, you need a thing to carry it all in. Liver so rich in enzymes and Amino's is an ideal addition.
In dogs, they do not produce Bs well and in people and it is C. So the brewers yeast or liver go in the broth. For people, the C goes in the lysine remedy.
The recipes for BHT, an oil preservative, I buy capsules. Give first in am, one capsule, 250 mg some are 325. An hour before food. Then natto. Later.
Azoxystrobin, the recipe, 10% powder in 90% water. Let stand, cap shake. 1 to 2 drops 3x a day.
Bloodroot extract, this is added to stop the growth of the cancer. Part of another remedy. If you search on E.C. for azoxystrobin. There is a remedy there in those emails that puts all 3 of these together for another effective arm to your cancer killing fight. 3 to 4 drops a day. Your drops, for dogs. Water and drops suctioned into a syringe. Separate doses. So bloodroot apart from azoxystrobin.
To buy, Amazon, azoxystrobin, Ted recommends, Amistar 50WG powder. They only sell it a short time each year you may have to really look hard. If not able to find it, I would still include the other 2. You can find on Amazon or E bay.
Janet
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I am following through and have a few questions:
1) Lysine - Question: Do I continue doing this pace ongoing indefinitely? I kept seeing reference to "3 days" and then was unsure what happened after that 3 day period. Update on our progress since last post: We took a 2 day break and then have continued the combination of 2000mg Lysine, 500mg Threonine, 1000 mg Vitamin C every hour for 4 hours AM and PM. I have also added the powder from a K2 capsule and also Milk Thistle just because it was convenient to add to the mixture instead of pushing the pills. This is all added to spring water and given by a syringe.
Tannic Acid - Question: Are all tannic acid powders the same? I want to start this immediately. I've not been able to locate it and I want to be accurate. Do you have a link you can share? There is a wine tannic acid powder and a chem lab tannic acid on Amazon.com. Only one of them states its source, as grape stems and skins. The pending patent and study shows the source as "To obtain the active tannic acid and tannin complexes, the trunk of any of the plants of the Musaceae Family" which is a banana tree and does not mention grape.
Tannic Acid - Sharing: read this! I found this patent online and include many very intriguing patient cures on the bottom and a long list of cancers which tannic acid could be effective for - including osteosarcoma. https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1005350A1/en
Doggie Bulletproof (I love this!) - Question 1: Is your recipe to include the carrot juice + bone broth + butter (all other ingredients listed in that paragraph)? Question 2: Can raw or fresh-simmered liver be used instead of powers or is that less appetizing for our doggie snack?
Enzymes - Other than the Natto, and the Lysine/Threonine routine. I do not know what enzymes to be giving Kalli for osteosarcoma. What did Ted recommend?
I am sure I will have more for you soon Janet. Thank you for the tip on self care too. I am living 24/7 for this terrible cancer and trying to save my Kalli-love.
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I forgot the vitamin D and Enzymes.
Vitamin D by weight is 40 to 70iu per lb. Body weight. So about 49,000iu a day at the high end. 40,000iu at the low end. Check my math. At least during this challenging time, possibly.
Enzymes, this is a puzzle for me. Ted recommends lots of enzymes during this time to breakup and emulsify out tumors.
The problem I see with that is giving them on an empty tummy. Maybe you have that pill pusher that pushes a pull into throat. A Dane would have an enormous mouth to try to give capsules by hand. Lots of bromelain and protein digesting enzymes on an empty stomach if you can. Aside from the natto.
More stuff, too much stuff. I know. Some will resonate some will not. I feel that you want to know everything. Then can sort what you wish to incorporate as you go along.
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Sorry I missed your post, I usually check back. I do not know what I did.
Anyway, first I go with what I know. Something I know nothing about is moringa. But it is a food, a plant, nutrient dense. So in that case, I suspect your good. Ted does often discuss it, and references nutrient dense is not added or fortified with extra stuff. Nutrients, digestion, killing the cancer. Would be the focus and you are doing that.
Seaweed calcium, extracted. I personally would leave that behind. Food with whole nutrients. Dogs do not need much from veggies.
Yet I have been reading about vitamin A. Hard to absorb from supplements. But from carrots. We all sop it right up. It is a vitamin that is not discussed too much. I suspect this might help. It is the only veggies I use now. Pumpkin plain is a great addition for anal glands and any digestion issue that results in constipation or the runs. Quite a little miracle. 1/4 cup as needed.
So let me revise a little.
If I were starting today.
Bone broth warmed can be made or bought, organic, amazon and Co ops carry it. Carrot juice, you can buy it or juice it. MSM, powdered for pain and added sulfur. Coconut oil or MCT oil. Grass fed butter. Liver powder, make this up as a doggie bulletproof snack. You could use this for other supplements too. Selenium yeast, vitamin D, etc. Not the lysine remedy that is separate.
I use an $20 Oster blender. Broth, carrot juice all go in. This would be a snack, juicy yummy bone broth. Make a quart. Give a few oz a few x a day for more nutrients. Dense and rich.
The topical remedy is to penetrate to his bone and kill the cancer directly. So you could buy some fabric. Tear or fold an old clean tee shirt or two. Try to wash it clean of softener residue or store finishes. I wash all of mine in borax. No softener. Very toxic. But I rub it on. I use packs. Whatever I think will work. That Is different with each dog. Often as I can. Which means I am fallible. I had to take a day to breathe. Your dogs are as dependent as babies, look to us to fix the bad. Ted always recommends a break, for the patient, for you too I suspect. I had laser eye. I watched them endlessly. Everything. What I found out was I could rely on Teds advice. Took me a long time to not watch them like a hawk.
They were vaccinated, over vaccinated, I tried to undo that and build immunity.
That is the lysine remedy. You can give it hourly 4 doses, have lunch and restart a round at night for 2 hourly or 4. What I noticed was they felt better. With our Golden he was a very big dog with a bad thyroid. I would give more of the remedy. Particular to labs and Golden's, their skin does not absorb well neither does their fur. So I never thought the topical was enough. My thinking, not a real fact.
So here is where I am a little lost. I cannot remember if I mentioned Teds alkalinity drink. So if I did not. 2 tbsp of Apple cider vinegar in a glass, add 1/2 tsp baking soda. Let fizz. Add 1/2 glass of water. Split into 2 doses syringe in 2 x a day 1/2 hour after food. Baking soda kills cancer. Ted says when you have nothing to lose, this is the winner. Baking soda is anticancer, cancer killer. It emulsifies old fats. It removes what does not belong.
Because bone cancer is so serious, I would be throwing everything effective at it. Topically and internally.
I keep my notes taped to my daily schedule and refer often. Right on my cabinet door. I make as much as I can ahead. Usually no more than 3 days ahead of use. The Apple Cider Vinegar remedy every day fresh.
So 3 additions I think might help.
Tannic acid, used in wine making in serious illness a real healer drops can be added to food.
Buy a few ounces from Amazon. 1/8 tsp in 1 liter of water. Add 5 drops to each meal. Can be constipating. So there is pumpkin if needed.
EDTA this is a soap and a great blood cleaner. Possibly will help prevent cancer from spreading. Removing it harmlessly through elimination. Refrigerate.
Tetrasodium EDTA, not calcium EDTA 30% EDTA in a mason jar. Add 70% spring water. Let dissolve. Cap and shake. 10 drops on food. Excellent circulation clearing. We use it all the time.
I do not know if we discussed borax. 20 Mule Team Borax. To remove existing fluoride toxins from his bones and joints. 1/8 tsp in a liter of water add a few drops when you refill water for him. It will help remove the deadly toxin from his body.
Remember you cannot run yourself down, trying. You cannot pour from an empty cup.
Bulletproof is a great boost for anyone. Made with coffee or broth or tea. 1 cup in the blender. Add 1 heap of collagen, 1 tbsp of MCT, 1 tbsp of butter. Blend and drink. Amazing real help.
I will check more carefully for replies if I missed something. Janet
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Thank you so much! I am working through this information implementing as quickly and thoroughly as possible. I'll reply in pieces. Progress so far, from this advice...
Calcium - oh shoot!?! I have stopped. Seaweed calcium powder had been advised by her holistic vet to be added to her meals because he felt home cooked meals would be nutrient deficient, and calcium was needed for the bone cancer. Apparently that was not good advice from the vet. I have been sprinkling moringa on her bowl of food too, but I see that it also has calcium in addition to other vitamins and protein. Does the moringa also need to be eliminated? I was depending on that for a bit of greens and bulk of nutrients not in the meat/broth itself.
I have now added the supplements D3 (20,000 iu) after lunch, and strontium 2000mg once a day a few hours before or after a meal.
Lysine remedy - we have just finished day 3. Questions:
1) I am unclear from Ted's protocol posts, and your reply here, what happens next after day 3?
2) Also, for a dog, is this only in the morning or is this also repeated in the evening?
Topical DMSO + castor oil - Question: how often should this topical treatment occur?
We have now completed 2 applications of mixed ratio, roughly, as DMSO 55% /castor-oil15%/iodine15%/aloe-juice15%/clove-oil 5 drops. I do not know the best % measurements though and preservative free aloe juice was the only product I could locate, not aloe vera oil. I did not yet have a wool or towel to do a castor-oil/DMSO pack, but instead just applied this other small mixture to her tumor lump with a natural sponge.
I look forward to replying with you more. How are your two dogs? I can tell you have worked through your own struggle and gained a lot of experience; and my heart goes out to you and all fur-parents trying to self educated and heal their pets.
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It is imperative to treat this condition also locally or topically. Here is a list of topical remedies that will bring very good results. Magnet Therapy (the stronger the magnet the better), For starters, double some refrigerator mags and wrap them around the affected area for an extended period of time. When taken off, apply a mixture of DMSO gel mixed with high ppm Colloidal Silver over the entire area. Hemp/CBD Salve applied liberally will help considerably.
Also is very beneficial for fighting cancer and improving overall condition is applying or rubbing some Vit-E Oil anywhere on the skin surface where it can be absorbed into the body. Lots of otc E Oils but not usually effective enough for serious conditions, so add a few punctured softgels of Tocotreinols into the bottle and shake well. To further the efficacy of the Vit-E, sprinkle CoQ10 from capsules onto his/her food. This will greatly help energy & oxygen levels in all the cells thus starving the cancer cells.
Another good topical remedy is to rub the affected area with Povidone Iodine. Moisten a washcloth with filtered water and then saturate with 10% P.I.
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Yes, emulsified, organic & Barleans brand 100% refrigerated flax oil. The honey + black seed oil does make me concerned because of the sugar. I am uneducated if the honey is really needed for the black seed oil to be effective. This is a good question for this Earth Clinic post.
We stopped kibble immediately and only knew of one way to feed her sugar/carb-free by the next meal; simmered meats (low temp, crock pot with water). I am trying to introduce raw meats to Kalli, but she is strongly resistant to eating it and I worry for her immune system and any stress of doing the "tough love" standoff with her for a few days. The furthest she has eaten for me, with skepticism, is some raw ground turkey mixed with cottage cheese. Is simmered meat worse than dry food, for cancer?
Updating: Hunting down the materials, we have just applied a 100% DMSO, iodine/iodide, castor oil, aloe Juice(?), clove oil mixture to her leg! Things I am unclear about are:
1) I could not locate aloe vera oil, even online. Is aloe oil what should be used?
2) Should any (all) of this be taken orally too, or is it most effective as a topical bone tumor treatment?
3) Am I doing it right.. anything else better/needed to reverse cancel cells?
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further reading here: ... http://www.doctoryourself.com/chemovitC.html
and here: ... whether Doctors or Veterinarians... same advice applies...
http://www.doctoryourself.com/strategies.html
and if you still aren't convinced simple Vitamin C cures cancer... in pets...
http://www.doctoryourself.com/animal_health.html
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For our dogs cancerous tumors, cannabutter was the fix. Ours were full of tumors. Also look up Rick Simpson oil. If you are in a state that offers medical pot all the better, as it works better. You may be able to travel to obtain it. If nothing else the pain relief would be helpful.
Bone cancer, I would use Teds internal, people remedies. In his bone cancer remedies. Sometimes in the US you can find Sabah snake grass on eBay or Amazon. It sells out fast.
I am not sure why you have added calcium to the regime. It will prevent absorption of all the good things you are doing. Free calcium in blood and organs it counterproductive.
Instead, to drive the good nutrients that he eats, the calcium that's there can be utilized better, you might want to add vitamin d3 and not supp. the calcium. This can be purchased in drops. Added to food. Our 40 lb dog and 70 lb dog get about 10,000 iu a day. The companions of d3 are magnesium, k2, selenium is very low in cancer patients.
So for k2, we use nattokinase which is a rich source, it'd properties are as an enzyme, cleans the blood of fibrin, debris. Easily. Given as a capsule, pushed down the throat or with applicator. Before any food.
Magnesium, this is a sticky wicket, you want to give him enough, a lot, yet he might get the runs. You need 2 avenues here, through the skin, diet.
Through the skin. If he will lay down in a kiddy pool or feet in buckets. Epsom Salts 1 cup, 1/2 cup 20 mule team borax, 1/2 cup hydrogen peroxide. Peroxide oxygenates the body. Oxygen kills cancer. Borax removes cancer causing fluoride, makes the body rich in boron to displace the offender out. He needs magnesium in every inch of himself, to improve digestion, bone health, correcting bones and joints.
2nd magnesium strategy. Magnesium oil, buy magnesium flakes. In a mason jar, 60% flakes, 40% spring water. Let stand 1 hour. Cap and shake. Buy a 16 oz glass spray bottle. Fill with mag oil. Spray his tummy and legs and rub in, often.
Internal magnesium, 250 mg magnesium malate, it is rich in malate's helping keep stools firm, but digestible amount of mag with it. If his stools seem to hard add a drop or 2 of mag oil to his food, extra, will balance it out.
So now, selenium yeast 100mcg. This mineral gets depleted quick. Is an effective fungus candida fighter. Often part of cancers ability to grow.
Only give him fluoride free water, mineral or spring water, fluoride can undo all your good effort. A pinch in drinking water, of 20 Mule Team Borax, every third day will remove any in his body to promote your efforts.
Essiac, we use as a nutrient and cancer fighter.
1 tbsp of non GMO lecithin, on food. To get his liver clean free of bad fats, liver optimization is so important. 1x a day. The first week. Then every other day. So he does not have a herxmier reaction. Add 1/4 tsp of cilantro in food. Every other day. To remove heavy metals gently. Then after 1 week, 2 x a week.
Liver function must have b vitamins, a scoop of brewers yeast or dried liver to his food. You can add extra niacinamide, not niacin. This can be purchased as a powder. 1/4 tsp every day. Or open a capsule.
Baking soda, cancer killer. Alkalizing the body, circulation protector, brain protector, digestion helper. 2 tbsp Apple Cider Vinegar in a glass, add 1/2 tsp of baking soda, let fizz, add 1/2 glass of water. Pour 1/2 on breakfast 1/2 on dinner. Keeps alkalinity up to fight cancer.
Lysine remedy. For 3 days I mix this up as a solution. To give hourly doses for 4 hours in am. Through syringe. 1 liter of spring water. Add 8000 mg l lysine powder. 2000 mg l threonine powder. 1000 mg sodium ascorbate. Cap and shake. Mark bottle with 12 lines. 4 doses a day. syringe in, a dose an hour. Lysine only lasts 55 minutes in body. The reason this timing.
Topically.
Castor oil packs. Topically fighting the cancer. I would get an old threadbare towel. Fold it to fit his leg. 3 to 5 folds. Drop in a gallon ziploc. Add castor oil. To saturate. Use bag as squeegee, pull out towel or flannel. Lay flat. Add some sprays of magnesium oil. Put on his leg. Maybe with an ace bandage. If he will sit with it. Add a heating pad. 20 minutes. Castor oil tells the body, send healing here, now.
When our dogs have had challenges. I rub in some iodine. 5% lugols iodine. Near whatever I am treating. On us on the guinea pigs, cats and dogs. It boosts the body. Every other day then 1 or 2 x a week.
Food. Try to stick to organic non GMO it will help during this challenge.
DMSO. Can be added to castor oil pack. You must wash clean the treatment area as DMSO carries good and bad through the skin. But it is the magic of topical treatment as it penetrates like no other thing. Targeting that cancer head on.
These are my standards for treating our dogs. I might change things for different ailments, but these have worked. Sabah snake grass if available somewhere is worth the pursuit, from everything Ted has said. I had not found it until we were not needing it.
The first week I treat everyday. 2nd week I go to Ted's recommendation of 5 days on 2 days off. Those 2 days are to absorb the good and allow the body to dump garbage. Janet
Here is Ted's info
https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/bone-cancer-treatment5.html
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Good on you for getting rid of the kibble, but wouldn't raw pastured meat be better than cooked (carcinogenic) meat? Particularly the raw organ meats, especially liver. For the Budwig diet, please ensure you emulsify the mix well, and hopefully you are using flax oil that you bought refrigerated and keep it so, as unrefrigerated it is rancid and you are introducing toxins when you do not want to do that. Ted always said to get rid of any sugars when fighting cancers, however I understand you are following a protocol and you have researched this. First thought I had though, was lugol's iodine, and after perusing some old thoughts of Ted, you may further research applying topically Iodine with DMSO and for extra strength, clove oil, if she licked it she is unlikely to do it again, as LI tastes pretty foul, and many have taken li and DMSO internally. Best to you
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According to National Prevention of Cancer (NPC) trial MethylSelenocysteine decreased the incidence of total cancer and death. Gambogic Acid - dried resin of Garcinia morella/ or hanburyi, is tested as RECK (cancer reversing factor) activator. Both are available online.
God bless You!
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It has been 6 weeks since dx:
1) 2 Tbsp Budwig Flax Oil + 2 Tbps organic cottage cheese + ground walnut/apricot-seed/pumpkin-seed/sunflower-seed. We would do this twice daily
2) diet change - zero kibble now, we simmer meat or foul and add supplements such as seaweed calcium and moringa powder For the past 2 weeks we have added:
3) 1/2 tsp blackseed oil + 1/2 tsp honey
4) Essiac tea twice a day 4 oz each ////
Although she seems healthy, the growth of her leg has not reduced and has slightly enlarged. She limps heavily. I've been told it grows rapidly, typically, so maybe only a small increase is good. BUT, Ted, I need help and know that time is not on my side. Please, I am looking for a protocol - even hope for a cure - and have nothing but negative information from doctors and limited solid information from self research.
Some days she turns her nose at all food except the honey+blackseed. Most days she has a good appetite though.
EC: Dear Dane Mom,
We're so sorry to hear about your Great Dane. Unfortunately our brilliant contributor Ted had a stroke 3 years ago and has been unable to correspond with Earth Clinic readers since then. Hopefully one of our other wonderful contributors will have some ideas for you.
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Check out hygroma online. See it a lot in Irish Wolfhounds.
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Is this correct?? That is a HUGE dose. Typo maybe meant to be two thousand, not twenty thousand? Thoughts?
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artemisinin...very bitter so it has to be given in the capsule
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I have her on bitter apricot kernels now and will try Larch Tree Arabinolalactan next if she still has the mass. Good luck.
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What I did was to use a "cotton round", the kind you use to remove makeup, put a good amount of manuka honey on it and then pressed it against the cyst. Next, I put a piece of flannel fabric over that to help keep the honey from spreading and then put a long piece of duct tape across it and then a couple more pieces in different directions so it would stay in place. The whole ordeal lasted 4 months. My dog is so good, I had a hard time keeping the bandage on because of the location... the rump, on the side, so had to use the duct tape and it worked great but he did look kind of funny.
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My personal favorite source of Essiac is Mountain Rose Herbs.
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Essiac Tea is wonderful!!! It has almost completely changed my dog's life. My border collie who is 15 has a horrible tumor on her chest, near her front right leg. It started out very small and grew huge. We took her to the vet 100 times but they will not do much for her because of her age. so we started her on essiac tea. 2 ounces a day an hour before or after food.
The minute I stopped giving her her essiac tea she got sicker. So I'm keeping her on it. She always gets the tumor cleaned with peroxide 3 times a day, hot(not too hot) compresses and cold compresses, washed out with lukewarm water and antibacterial soap 3 times a day as well.
I also have her on...enzymes, probiotics, a daily vitamin, Omega fatty acids, a grain free and raw diet, and now I am adding sea buckthorn fruit oil to the mix. I give her garlic and turmeric in her food all organic and I can honestly say without a doubt that she would have been long gone if it wasnt for this site.
I just ordered Colloidal silver because her tumor is opened up and draining. More then half has flattened out and is healing already. Now just in the middle of it is the last to drain and then heal. So I am right now in the motion of preventing infection and boosting her immune system to fight anything off. I just ordered manuka honey because I've researched and read that it will help with pulling all the bad out and helping with healing. I keep it wrapped with gauze, ace bandages, and tape at night which is when I notice she tries to lick it. I have been giving her around the clock care for months now and she is still normal..eating, drinking, pooping, peeing, playing, barking, etc. I know that the tumor must drain before it heals. So I just keep her area clean, dry and make sure she is always comfy. I also give her apple cider vinegar and keep her alkalined. It is indeed alot of work but worth it if you love your animal and want to keep them healthy and happy.
Please listen to the advice of the people here because without I know my baby wouldnt be here right now.
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this is a very long post for our Buddy regarding his Squamous Cell Carcinoma inside his mouth which has formed a tumor seen outside also almost the size of a golf ball, so if you don't have time (I've gotten to the point first) or if you are going to say something negative (we are not interested, so take it to bed with you) my purpose is wanting to know if anyone is familiar with any type of homeopathic remedy topically put on a dogs tumor which is digestible being his tumor is inside his mouth (can be rubbed outside if that works too)..I've read about castor oil and turmeric applied with a cheesecloth also I've read about salve (scared to put this in his mouth) plus other remedies and I'm so confused. My result is we need to shrink or rot this tumor so it falls off...gross I know but it is possible.
Also if anyone has experience with Chemotherapy in the form of Palladia orally at home or Carboplatin infusions please give me your experience with this, I may have waited too long though considering I was concerned it would cause organ damage or suppress his immune system.
if anyone recalls our cocker Spaniel Buddy was diagnosed with Squamous Cell Carcinoma cancer tumor on the left side of his face inside of his mouth unfortunately. They gave him 2 months to live back in March 2017, next visit in August they gave him 4 months to live so now I don't pay much attention to that.
Everyday I do what I do to keep Buddy healthy. It seems like a lot but his morning ritual take about 30 minutes and making his food monthly about another 30 minutes. It's become part of my daily life. The most exhausting part is not daily but the research and reading I do weekly.
Buddy immediately after the diagnosis went on an
*all natural protein and vegetable diet which I make at home monthly and freeze (Dusty loves it too)
*he takes several vitamins for his immune system,
*the Budwig Protocol which includes emulsified cottage cheese and flaxseed 2 x daily,
*2 types of eye drops considering the tumor is pushing on his eye which can lead to infection. Thankfully Chris prescribes it!!
*CBD oil just in case he is in pain daily
*I found a pill from Japan that stops the bleeding in a day or 2 every once in awhile when the tumor bleeds which is normal
*weekly walks
*groomer comes to him so he's not exposed to other dogs and I've stopped his immunizations for various reasons,
*he has comfortable beds and areas on the sofa with blankets all over the house so he can relax wherever.
I Just recently started giving him Essiac tea 2x daily to drink and I'll see if it makes a difference. I have experimented with other natural remedies and vitamins but don't continue if I don't see a change.
Buddy is doing great in every aspect as far as eating well, sleeping, energy level, looks pretty happy other then the tumor has and is still growing..
I'm looking for a miracle which is something to stop the growth and shrink or kill the tumor 
😟 Buddy and I open minded and flexible and he is very cooperative and takes anything I give him.
I'll be taking him back to the oncologist to follow up. Last time we saw her blood test we are good as far as organs doing well.
I can't point to any research. I don't know that there will be much to be found since castor oil as a cancer treatment won't be profitable enough to have studies funded. From reading of others' experiences it seems that sometimes the castor oil can make the tumor grow (swell, perhaps?) at first and even open up. This can be a problem for some cancers if further growth would affect a nearby nerve or something else. Opening up can cause blood loss.
But that said, I think some might choose it as the best option under certain circumstances.
Essiac tea would be another option to consider.
~Mama to Many~
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I am sorry to hear about your dobie's nasal tumor. It is astonishing what we are seeing now in such young animals :( . Certainly consider the castor oil therapy, but what comes immediately to my mind is the Budwig protocol which can be used in conjunction with other therapies. Please check out EC's page:
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/budwig-diet.html
In addition Google "budwig diet for dogs" and explore the hits that come up. Also consider turmeric: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/turmeric-for-cancer.html
Please report back!
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I am so sorry to hear it. I hope that your last days together will be peaceful and blessed, and that your happy memories with your four legged friend will carry you through sad days ahead.
~Mama to Many~
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I don't know if the tumors refill; I would tend to think not, but I don't really know. Bright red blood does sound pretty serious. Do you have a vet that could help you?
~Mama to Many~
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The oozing from the tumor does seem to be common, but surely distressing. I do think it may be blood and other fluids, in other words, may not be quite as much blood loss as it would appear.
Pale gums would be a sign of having lost too much blood.
Giving your dog blackstrap would help build the blood, as would a chlorophyll supplement.
Personally, even if the draining is normal and expected, (it seems to happen a lot) I would probably want to keep it controlled too like you are doing with cayenne and pressure.
Keep us posted.
~Mama to Many~
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Thank you so Much for your kind words it is much appreciated. Jed was a dog in a million.
I actually took the trouble of looking up the meaning of his name and were it came from and it is Hebrew which I never would have guessed and jed means "Friend of God" which was quite apt for Jed as he was such a kind hearted dog.
All the best
Paul
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I am so sorry to hear about Jed! You have been a faithful and loving friend to him!
While remedies and good food are important, the love and care you have given him no doubt were a greater part of his ongoing health and his peaceful end.
Again, I am so sorry. May the memories of the happy days you had with him be a comfort to you.
~Mama to Many~
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It is a sad day today we lost Jed this morning at 5.00am. But I am certain that what we were giving him really helped he was not in any pain and just went peacefully he was two months off 13. My only regret was that we could have done more if we had know at the time what was out there to help fight his condition tumour /cancer. The only thing we should have done was give him a prescription dog food that is available that is 100% good for your do and cancer can not feed off it. I think it was called Hills Prescription diet N/D. If we had known about this at the start we could have killed the tumour stone dead from the roots out and if it can not feed it can not live. We did not know that everything in the regular dog foods cancer loves and feeds off. But everything else we used of this Fantasic website worked We just did not think about the feeding habits off the tumour. I hope this helps someone else. A big thankyou to Mama for Many. All the best Paul
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I think you are going to become an expert on treating this sort of thing!
What you are doing sounds good and yes, castor oil sounds like a good plan.
You might consider Essiac Tea if you could find some where you are. It has helped many people with tumors and also been used successfully with pets. It is a mild tasting herb blend that you make into a tea. It would probably be remedy to keep him on for life. Essiac contains burdock root, slippery elm, Sheep sorrel and turkey rhubarb.
Essiac for Pets - https://www.earthclinic.com/pets/essiac-tea.html
Essiac for People, with detailed directions - https://www.earthclinic.com/herbs/essiac-tea.html
If you are seeing some weeping in those two little holes I wonder if the tumor is about to drain.
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We found out the cause of Jeds swelling this morning, his tumour is back. We kept him on turmeric from last time we never stopped the twice a day even when he healed up. We now have added the coconut oil to the mix as well just one tablespoon a day with his food. It has come back slightly forward of were it was last time. We are thinking now of castor oil to see if that does any good we are far from giving up the fight. Apart from that Jed is fine. Do you have any other ideas as to what we can do to help him?
All the best
Paul
p.s. it is starting to weep again through two little holes in the lump.
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Sounds like you are doing great stuff already for Jed.
Is it possibly that he has injured it or had a bee sting?
I would continue what you are doing and perhaps try hydrotherapy, which is just fancy for alternating warm and cool compresses. I have found this to work surprisingly well to reduce swelling.
Use two bowls of water, one warm and one cool. (Not hot and cold - too shocking.)
You start with a cool cloth and hold it on the inflammation for 30 seconds or so. Then switch to warm for 20 seconds or so. Continue back and forth for 7 applications total (4 cool - begin and end with cool.)
This can be done several times a day if he seems comfortable with it.
You could also try a bentonite clay poultice if you could get some clay. French Green clay would do as well.
I mix the clay with water to get a paste using non metal containers and utensils. I spread the clay onto a clean cloth and fold it into an envelope like thing and apply to the swelling. I usually put plastic wrap then cohesive tape to keep it on. (Sticks to itself but not to fur and is hard for animals to remove.) It does help with pain, also.
I know you will keep us posted on his progress!
~Mama to Many~
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All was good for three weeks and Now his front leg has got swollen up to his shoulder. We kept him on his tumeric but it just stays the same in size, it's slightly red and warm.
We put manuka honey on it and it cooled it down and we are giving him vitamin C tablets twice a day. But it is still swollen and he does not like to get up now and stand on it what can we do to get rid of the swelling. Many thanks in advance Paul and Jed.
p.s. Apart from the swelling he is fine he will be 13 on September 13 2017
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Yes, it sounds like what you are doing is working. It seems that often the tumors look worse right before improving.
I would continue with those internal remedies as they will support the body fighting infection. You might also add vitamin C to what you are doing internally. While dogs make their own vitamin C, under times of stress, a supplement is sometimes helpful.
Aloe and castor oil, gently massaged topically on the tumor can support its healing and may help with pain.
If there are actual open wounds, my preference is raw honey, topically. If possible, you could dress the wound and change the dressing a couple of times a day. In other words, honey on the wound, then a couple of layers of gauze, then cohesive tape to hold it on. My large dog is not able to remove cohesive tape, which sticks to itself but not the fur. Honey keeps infection from setting in and also heals.
My biggest concern with this type of tumor is the risk of blood loss if it suddenly drains a lot. While you want whatever is in there to drain, if there seems to be significant blood loss, cayenne pepper can be used to stop bleeding topically. It sounds awful but it stings just briefly then actually can relieve pain and stop bleeding.
Keep us posted on his progress!
~Mama to Many~
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My question - it seems his body is trying to expel the tumor. Is there anything I can do to help limit his discomfort or to help it expel more quickly to relieve the pressure?
Does anyone else have examples of where it was expelled and what to expect?
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What a happy report for you and Jed! I am thrilled for you.
Thank you so much for taking time to share your results. I know it will be helpful to others in the future!
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Just a quick update on Jed. 15 days in now form the start of his treatment with turmeric on his tumour which has all but gone. The size of the wound from the start was very large and deep after the tumour burst open and all the nasty stuff came out and we were left with a big deep hole. Since applying the Manuka Honey on and in the hole it has all but closed up now there is no sign of the tumour it has gone and all the swelling has gone down too. The are that is left as of now has closed up by about 80% so not much more to go. Jed is back on his feet and 100% a happier dog. Thank you for all your help through this difficult time us and thank you to all at the Earth clinic website this has to be the best find I have ever made on the internet.
All the very best to everyone from
Paul and Jed
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Just to let you know we are doing as you said and everything is going great noticed the honey is also clearing out the wound of any nasty stuff as well and keeping it very clean as you said.
So I guess now it is just a question of time. Thanks again and have a great day . When Jed is Fixed I will send you a Picture
All the very best.
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The packing the wound with honey is what I would try. Honey has wonderful antibacterial and healing properties.
So happy about the wonderful progress! Thank you for updating!
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I have been down to the chemist today and stocked up with all stuff I need to pack and dress Jeds wound. We have bought the best honey money can buy its called Manuka Honey At 17.50 a small Jar US would cost about $23.00 but who cares about the cost and long as it fixes our Jed.
So we cleaned out his wound and it is perfect. We applied the honey and put respect dressings on to keep it clean and lick proof. Jed Is as happy as can be and been fast asleep for hours now he is one happy boy and feeling better for it. Just got to wait time out now for the magic to work.
Thanks again and all the very best from across the pond here in the UK.
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Thank you for all your help it is much appreciated. The update on Jed. So far is I tried the turmeric and yes you guess it he licked it all out when I was not looking and made himself sick so went to plan B the Iodine solution you recomended stated not to put it in open wounds so I am a bit bothered about that. So now looking at plan C The Honey do we just pack out the tumour hole with honey? This is going to be fun lol.
The good news is as well all the swelling has gone down in his front leg and Paw just about back to normal and he is starting to take food again slowly as he wants it. Oh and is back to being alert when he hears a bag being opened thinking there is a chance of food. Which he was not doing two days ago.
So he is well on the way to getting better.
So the only thing now is this big hole to sort out? Do I just pack it out with honey?
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What a happy update. So glad to hear it.
Yes, I would keep the hole clean. It should repair itself over time. Honey, topically, may help the wound to heal more quickly if he wouldn't lick it all out.
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I am sorry about your dog's tumor/bleeding!
Is it enough bleeding that you are concerned about blood loss or just that there is an increased discharge?
You might try giving some blackstrap or even chlorophyll if blood loss is a concern. How big is your dog?
I would give a 100 pound dog as much as a Tablespoon of blackstrap and several tablespoons of Chlorophyll each day to make up for blood loss.
If it is just draining/oozing, I would try to keep it clean, perhaps with povidone iodine. Turmeric can be used in wounds to prevent infection. So can honey.
If the bleeding is severe, cayenne pepper will stop bleeding. We have used it in wounds. It sounds like it would sting, but it really doesn't. But if you dog was inclined to lick at the wound, it would not be pleasant for him. Cayenne can be used internally also to stabilize bleeding but I have never given it to a dog. I am not sure how he would take it.
Keep us posted on Jed's progress! It is hard to see our beloved pets suffer...
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I am using turmeric powder and giving Jed a teaspoon in the morning and a teaspoon in the evening with food. I read some of the site's feedback on this subject and it stated the tumour gets bigger to start with which it has done. I am just worried about the bleeding can you help. Thanks
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He may not want to walk far if he is in pain.
The main thing is, if it bursts you have to prevent any further infection. Go to your local health shop and buy some colloidial silver. This can be used for cleaning and healing. Also, get some manuka honey. This is brilliant for healing wounds. You also, need to get some dressings. That are sterile. You need some gauze and some self attaching bandages. And some sterile cotton wool for cleaning. Do NOT try to burst it yourself. Get plenty of dressings. And start doing it now. The pressure may help it to burst. I know you are on a tight budget. But, if it gets infected, you will have to go to the vet. so, you clean it, then apply the manuka honey. (It must be the Manuka type). And then dress it with the gauze. And the bandage. You can now buy the type that doesn't taste nice! He mustn't be allowed to chew it. It may be best to get a cheap Elizabethan collar.
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my dog has a large cyst o tumor on his right back and it has a blood so I think the tumor is ready to burst .. this is the first time to experience this and I cant afford to bring my dog at vet bcoz I am student only .. so please tell me what to do when it burst :( im begging you I want to help my dog .. his suffering :( if the tumor is already burst should I put some castor oil? or what will I do to stop it from bursting or helping it to make small? :( please help me
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My little 13 lbs dog has developed some sort of cyst/tumor on her hind leg where she bends it. She can't have surgery because of her age. I read some place that colloidal silver might decrease it. Any suggestions will be appreciated
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Then a friend who had cancer healed with bicarbonate and bentonite clay. So I have been giving her bicarbonate and turmeric honey in syringe internally and on the now 3 open wounds! Cottage cheese like lumps coming out and discharge. Lots of. Lump at back going down two open lumps crater like ongoing battle compresses and. Daily bicarbonate/ lavener/ROSMary baths as the wound is sore, and DIEING. infused herbs not essentials. Getting greens blended with good dog food. Also nettle porridge with chicken, now using chamomile tea bags soaked aloe and caster oil. She is now on antibiotics when I can get them in her. She's foxy clever!!! As I was concerned about the discharge / infection.
The bicarbonate seems to of had the most affect at dissolving the lumps she's had 3 weeks of it, turning them to snotty cottage cheese like bits!! They grow in bubble like formation the lumps cluster together and as I can see them they die slowly and the stopping them growing is a headbanger!? Any other suggestions?!!
Also giving her vit c. So much more could write weeks of nursing till early hours. I am tired!! But she is an angel dog and she is fighting not ready to go, the one vet would of put her to sleep last October!! Lazy vet!! Not into holistic luckily I have found a herbalist vet X she is great. But expensive, big love to all of you nursing your poorly babies I know what an emotional roller coaster it is. We are special and so are our beloved friends.
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I started giving her a dropper of concentrated essiac tea once a day and mixing about 1/2 teaspoon of the powdered herbs in her food. The tumor went away and she put weight back on.
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Finding it hard to write my own post. Please I am in need of desperate help for my cat. He is around 9. I have written on here before. My boy was diagnosed with lymphoma back in Nov 2016. After being misdiagnosed with an URI I started him on Essiac tea after a while was pretty good and his coat looks the best it has ever been.
Anyway 3 days ago his right third eyelid covered most of his eye and he went back to being lethargic and not eating. Took him to a vet and he is on antibiotics. She said it maybe a cyst behind the eye or a tumor. Also I may have to get his eye removed if it doesn't respond.
One I really do not want that and two after $1700 for the other treatment it's too much of a strain.
What can I do? If I do castor oil will it grow the tumor/cyst and then his eye pop out. I'm terrified of what can happen.
I've come home to give him his antibiotics and he is hiding. This scares me as it is what happened to my 8yr old soul kitty and I lost her to cancer.
Please help me please
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What about a cyst or tumor that is behind a cat's eye causing his third eyelid to cover have his eye with a slight buldge up on top of head?
I'm desperately seeking help.
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So, my 15 years old cat had the x-ray and ultrasound and the vet.said some tumor is in her belly. It is 4x2 cm, in the lover belly, and it is palpable. On ultrasound it seems it has one part solid, one liquid like a cyst. The vet said that he thinks it is some kind of sarcoma, started im muscles and then entered abdominal cavity. I didn't want her to go to biopsy and the surgery, which vet also agreed, so I started to investigate what can I give her. By the way, her blood sample is ok, all is good, other than creatinine that is lightly high. She is ok, normally eating(just a little bit smaller portions), drinking, peeing, pooping....behaving like always. So I hope I got the right time to act, but I just need some advice.
I found out this remarkable site and I saw that a lot of you saved your beloved pets with Essiac tea and shark cartilage. On my research I found that people are not so keen to this treatment because it is not proven to work.
Anyway, I ordered them both, and beside that I am giving her some Spirulina, Ganoderma, Hydrogen pills, while I wati the tea to come.
I would like some comments, tips, suggestions, what to do with my 15 years old best friend? I must say that I'm a DMD, and finished acupuncture school, so any suggestions which points to use is great.
Please, write to us, 'cause we are desperate in some help.
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When it presented, one of his fatty tumors ballooned to twice its normal size. The vet gave him a biopsy that confirmed mast cells. Within a week, it had perforated and left a huge, hamburgerish hole in his side that we were told to keep covered, and that it would probably not heal.
Bandages are expensive, so I ordered organic, reusable bamboo breast pads online (10 pack) to use in place of primary bandages. We asked around and received about 10 ace bandages that we used to secure the primary bandages, then bought a rigid back brace to wrap over the top of the primary and ace bandages to make it harder for Skipper to access the wound.
At first we were changing the breast pads several times a day, and each time we would slather one of the following:
- Cold pressed, hexane free castor oil
- EVCO
- Vitamin E oil
To these we would sometimes add turmeric, Lugols iodine. Definitely added Yunnan Baiyou to wound at first when it was bleeding so bad, and also included a pill or two internally the first week. After he healed, we put Dr. Schultze's drawing poultice (look at Curezone for recipe) overnight, and left all bandages off during the day.
After about 6 weeks, the wound closed up completely. We frequently put ice packs over the bandage system to keep him comfortable when the sore would flare up.
Onto the supplements we had him on:
- CannaCompanion cannabis (see their website for specifications)
- Vet prescribed anti-inflammatory
- Turmeric and pepper pills found at Costco
- Green Mush pills (you have to assemble capsules yourself, unless your dog will eat Green Mush mixed into food)
- 2 Benadryll
- 1 Tagamet
- Activated charcoal & Psyllium
- Pribiotic
- Indica just before bedtime towards the end
I attached his regimen. He was put to sleep about a week and a half ago, but I know he would have died sooner and been more uncomfortable had we not followed this protocol. Hope this helps someone out there!
