Borax for Mange - Ted's Remedy for Demodectic and Sarcoptic Mange

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Posted by Lacat (Malaysia) on 05/14/2015

Dear All,

I am at my wit's end! Our 2.5 year old (street) dog has been chronically itchy for 5 months now. I put her on a raw, high protein diet about 4 months ago to try and cure it and she seem's quite healthy other than this incessant self-mutilation. Having been put on antibiotics for most of her young life by our original vet I decided to take her to a holistic vet who has put her on a TCM medicine (she didn't do any skin scrapings and didn't suggest it was mites)

She has now been taking the TCM (cooling medicine) for about a month with no real improvement. I then found Ted's cure and as her symptoms seem to be the same I decided to give it a go. I did the peroxide borax solution first and then as there was little improvement after a few days I used the vinegar borax solution and then again, a few days later, have just done a second peroxide/borax solution - all exactly as directed. Although the worst of it was on her hindquarters which at this stage seem a bit better although she is still chewing them a little when her cone is off, she is now attacking her neck viciously with her back paws (even when she is wearing a cone collar) and now has some awful infected lesions on her neck. IS THIS NORMAL???

I am really despairing and am under severe pressure to take her to a "normal" vet but am worried they will want to give her more antibiotics or even worse the awful chemical dips. Please, can those of you who have done the Ted's cure tell me if this reaction is normal ? thanks you in advance for any input you can give!

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/14/2015

Hey Lacat!

Ted's Mange cure is great on mange - but what you describe does not sound like a mange mite infection. What you describe to me sounds more like a diet incompatibility/allergic to something in the food. So what are you feeding? Read the ingredients on the food you are feeding - if you see grains in the first 7 ingredients diet could likely be the culprit, and a diet switch to a grain free food is in order.

You might also consider alkalizing the water for your dog - this helps balance the PH in your dog's system which will help with the itching; you might also consider adding borax to the water as this helps to combat a systemic yeast infection which can occur on a grain based diet.

You can continue with the mange remedy, but you might also consider Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy instead - particularly as it will address infection on the skin - you may need to apply it daily or several times per day to keep your pet comfortable while the skin heals.

I will say if you are dealing with big, open infected sores that I would not hesitate to see the vet. They may suggest a cortizone shot for the itching - read up on this as there is a possibility for a bad reaction; they will also recommend an antibiotic for the infection. You might be able to use an OTC antibiotic you can buy at any drugstore for the infected sores. I am in agreement with you on avoiding the chemical dips.

One thing that may help are the addition of probiotics to the diet; acidophillus pills are the most direct way, but raw sauer kraut is also very good and some people have had good results with adding a spoonful of yogurt to the diet.

Please report back on your results!

Replied by Lacat
Malaysia
05/14/2015

Hi Theresa many thanks for your reply and I am wondering about it being a food allergy or a thyroid issue.

I have been making her meals myself and I rotate different proteins every few days - beef, mutton, chicken, eggs and fish mixed with liquidised or finely chopped vegetables (e.g. cucumber, celery, greens) I add a probiotic (Lacto 5), enzymes (Young Living Essentialzyme 4 or Allerzyme), cod liver oil, flaxseed oil, coconut oil, ACV, Zinc, Vit E, garlic etc etc.

I must say she doesn't seem to drink much so I add filtered water to her food.

She has had NO grains/carbos/sweets for about 2 months now.

Her ears were particularly bad for the last 2 days (having seemed to be getting better - I clean them every day) so I bought and treated her ears with a herbal remedy last night and again this morning and I used YL Animal Scents on her sores last night and this morning and I have to say she seems a lot calmer this morning :)

I am wondering if she has been experiencing Hex????? - the die-off syndrome after the mites have been attacked?

I am very interested to hear detailed experiences of what people's experiences have been when they started using Ted's cure. Did their dog get sudden eruptions of red, spotty areas and increased itchiness in new spots and how long did this last? She seems to be very irritated around the anus - is it possible the die off is also causing a problem in her anal sacs or is this more likely an issue if her problem is allergy related?

Thank you!

Replied by Thuy Tran
San Diego
05/14/2015

Dear Lacat,

My dog, BuBu ( just passed away) started scratching when he was 5 year olds and after his back surgery, his skin problem got worse, especially in the summer, his fur fell off and the open sore all over, he looked like he got burn. We took him to the Dermatologist, the Vet put him on antibiotic for one month and when he was off antibiotic, his skin broke out again. After 2 months on antibiotic, I started to search on line , tried everything for him ( I do the process of the elimination in parallel ) some worked for few month and he suffered again. Finally, I found the website- www.Nzymes.com, I ordered and followed the healthy skin program. They say that the condition will get worst at the 3 rd month before getting better, but on my dog, he got better right away after one month and his skin was completely clear up in six months, he was like a new dog. I ordered the large kit ( $117 or sth..) that lasted over a year. After one and a half year his itchy started coming back but not terrible like before and he wasn't crazy biting his paws like before.

I don't know if this can help your dog or not but I would like to share my experience with you. I understand how despairing you are because I did go through it before. My heart was broken everytime my dogs got sick.

You can read about the healthy program @ www.Nzymes.com.

ps: Please, don't put your dog on antibiotic again, it isn't good for our four leg friends. I wish the best for your dog.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/15/2015

Hey Lacat!

You might consider keeping a food diary for your dog to see if there is a pattern; in conjunction with the diary also temporarily cease the rotating protien diet and just feed 1 protien at a time for a period of time, ie chicken protien for 2 weeks and log results, then switch to mutton protien and log results: you may be able to identify if a particular protien is problematic for your dog.

I still question the parasitic mite issue; what you describe does not sound like mites - but it does sound like systemic yeast to me. I have known instances in confirmed demodectic mange where the mange 'rash' got worse before it got better - this in particularly bad cases and affecting areas where the rash existed prior, so not erruptions in new areas. The particular irritation around the anus just strikes me as systemic yeast. If this were my dog I would do borax in the water to combat the yeast internally - this along with the probiotic regime you are doing. A Herx reaction in this case might result in lethargy, dog just not feeling good while the toxins work their way out of the system. Support might be milk thistle, and other herbs or supplements for liver, kidneys and gallbladder support.

You might consider YL lavender oil diluted with coconut oil as a salve for the anus area; calendula would also be good. You can make a paste of borax and milk of magnesia to apply on the sores but do not work it into the skin as if the skin is in a reactive state rubbing might raise more hives. Anti-inflammatories such as quercetin, turmeric and yucca may be of help, so you might consider adding at minimum turmeric to the cocktail of nutritional supplements you are currently dosing.

It might also be helpful to make up Ted's antifungal/antistaph solution and keep it in a spray bottle to allow you to frequently spritz trouble spots on your dog without having to dip the entire dog on the alternate days after the mange dips.

I will keep the thinking cap on for you this weekend. Good luck and report back!

Replied by Lizzy
Asheville, NC
05/15/2015

Hi Lacat,

I was about to write a very long update to the itchy skin/yeast infection/skin infection/MRSA/hematoma issues I have dealt with in my dog for the past 18 months, but saw your post and wanted to respond since it sounds like you are going through what I did. Here is a quick list of the things that have really helped my dog heal after 1.5 years of constant itching and skin infections. These are not home remedies, but products you can find on a site like Amazon.com.

1. Dermabenss Shampoo - I found this product after typing in "shampoo for MRSA" and reading reviews on Amazon.com and bought it. It has been WONDERFUL at healing my dog's itchy skin and preventing more staph infections. I believe it really turned things around for my dog. I only use it once a week even though the instructions suggest every few days. This shampoo is better than any of the shampoos the vet gave me to try. Apple cider vinegar rinse and Ted's borax/peroxide rinse did not help at all.

2. Vet's Best Hot Spot Spray - Inexpensive yet very effective. This spray will help quickly heal any skin lesions. It proved to be better than all the home remedies and sprays I tried for almost a year.

3. Epi-Optic Advanced for ears. Use this once a week. It is VERY important to stay on top of the ear situation. I figured out that my dog's staph infections were most likely caused by him scratching his ears, which had yeast and bacteria overgrowth, and then scratching other parts like his stomach. Staph in the making...

4. Zymox Otic HC 1.0 Enzymatic Solution for ears. If you dog has an ear infection, please use this. The amazing Theresa on Earth Clinic wrote about this product in one of her posts and it has been fantastic.

5. The food I now use: The Honest Kitchen - Base Mix. I add raw ground beef to it. I don't think my dog's problems are related to food allergies, rather pollen, but this food has been great.

Hope this helps. Please let us know how it goes!

Replied by Lacat
Malaysia
05/25/2015

Dear Theresa, Lizzy and Thuy Tran

A huge thank you for your comments!

Apart from continuing with the mange baths, I have been adding 1/2tsp turmeric mixed with a pinch of freshly ground black pepper, garlic and olive oil to Fizzy's food morning and night for the last few days. Her food has been raw lungs with a little bit of liquidised greens, an occasional boiled egg and crushed shell and all the supplements added.

This seems to have turned the situation around somewhat and she has now safely had her cone off for the last 3 days (without self-mutilating! ) The lesion on her neck is healing slowly and she is not chewing her feet and ears like she was but is scratching a bit at her chin and around her mouth (where I haven't been putting the mange cure now that I think about it! ) Her ears seem to get better and then bad again but she is not scratching them and shaking her head as badly as she was.

Although her hair seemed to start growing back rapidly when I first started the treatment, it seems to have slowed down now which is a bit disappointing - not sure if it just appears that way though...

All in all things are looking up and I will keep you posted :)

Cannot thank you all, Ted and whoever is responsible for this site, enough - you have saved my sanity (and Fizzy's as well I'm sure! )

Replied by Doodles
Georgia
06/22/2015

Your dog is scratching from pain in my opinion. I would encourage you to stop everything for a while - all the treatments, the strange food things, all of it. Go simply to meat, raw bones, cooked rice, and water (boil the water first, scald all bowls). Feed your dog a tablespoon of yogurt 2 times a day. Give your dog benadryl to ease anxiety/scratching and a baby aspirin. (Here is the dosage information. http://www.veterinaryplace.com/dog-medicine/benadryl/ ) Additionally, I washed my dog with this highly recommended shampoo and it really works for all mites, etc. SynergyLabs Veterinary Formula Clinical Care Antiparasitic & Antiseborrheic Medicated Shampoo for Dogs. It is GREAT. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0037Z6VK8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00 I did this with my dog and the change was amazing. The medicine treated the symptoms and allowed her to relax until her skin healed. The shampoo treated the skin, and the change in diet really calmed all the other issues we were having. I hope this helps you.

Replied by Bellah's Guardian
Sacramento
11/02/2015

Hi and Thank GOD for this site and Ted! I just wanted to mention that less is more when attempting to identify food allergies. The elimination diet is best. Only one meat source (beef is a cool meat for dogs with heat). Try ground beef and green beans. My dog is allergic to chicken and ALL dog foods have chicken (they say they don't but animal byproducts is chicken). Eliminate all ingredients for 3 weeks except one protein and veggie. Then ask vet for Wind Toxin - Traditional Chinese Medicine. Blessings.

Replied by Diamond
Ma.
01/11/2016
5 out of 5 stars

It is my understanding for many years that all animals/ meats are experimented on then covered up by using antibiotics and steroids.... The only place you can get home grown meats are on a farm all pure home raised. Good Luck

Replied by Lacat
Malaysia
01/24/2017

Dear Theresa,

Just thought I should check in again as it has been a long time since I posted as tbh I haven't had any good news re Fizzy and her skin since my last posting. It has continued in a sort of flare up and die down cycle all this time. Unfortunately as we were moving countries, I had to resort to medication to try and suppress the symptoms as I was told she might not be accepted into USA if she was looking unhealthy. Thankfully she made it here but as soon as she came off the medication her symptoms flared up again as bad as ever despite the ongoing raw diet, supplements etc.

However there is now light at the end of this 2+ year dark tunnel..... I have put her on a Yeast Starvation Diet that consists of just raw beef, boiled eggs and a good "greens" supplement. I also did the Baking Soda in her water, a pre+probiotic and Vit E/omega supplement and have been washing her in Malaseb shampoo. Within a couple of weeks she has stopped scratching completely and now after about 5 weeks, just about all her rough, thickened, dry, grey skin areas have hair growing over them - including those little patches on her elbows!! Her ears are no longer swollen and black and she is full of energy. Yoohooo I am so happy and so is she!!

I think the point worth making is that it was perhaps the fruit/vegetables in her raw food diet that were aggravating her yeast? Or maybe it is the wonderful "greens" product that has helped her (Spark). Who knows??? As I slowly start re-introducing some veggies into her diet maybe I will find out the answer.

Wishing all of you who are going through this nightmare with your dog to persevere - hopefully the solution is just around the corner!

Thank you all for your input and ideas :)

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/25/2017

Hey Lacat!

Fizzy sounds like a dog I once had who broke out in hives anytime the wind changed direction. It is so difficult to stay on top of inhalent allergies - it is a never ending up hill battle. What helped was the constant rotation of water- from plain to baking soda to borax to plain, and also swapping out the chow from chicken diet to pork diet to beef diet and so on. Home made and RAW diets are best, but if you have to feed kibble rotate the protien bases often - and some find that daily rotation of protien provided the best results. Yeast can bloom on a whim - the dog under extra stress, the wrong food treat - so you always will be dealing with this issue. The maleseb shampoo is very effective! You may find you can buy the working ingredients in bulk at your local farm and fleet or tractor supply store, so you can buy a gallon of chlorhexidine and then add 1 oz to human tea tree oil shampoo and then rinse and finish with an ACV rinse and obtain good results.

Thank you for your update!


Posted by Penelope (Gun Barrel City,Texas) on 05/13/2015
3 out of 5 stars

Better But With Side Effects

I started treating my 6 year old German Shepherd Dog with Ted's wonderful mange cure two weeks ago. He has had six treatments in total. Immediately after the first treatment I could tell he felt so much better. He ran around the yard chasing his kitties up trees and barking like a young puppy again. Despite his improved attitude he is still going quite bald on his rump and the end of his tail looks as if it belongs on a rat not my baby!!!

He has pretty bad thickening of his skin on his elbows and at the base of his tail. After reading reviews regarding this treatment plan I know already that I'm in for the long haul and will do whatever it takes to get him through this. He is and has been my constant companion and friend for these six years and deserves to be treated as the King he is. So I would like first to tell you how extremely grateful I am for this website and all the love and attention I know you have put into it.

I have a question regarding the flaking he has developed now. On the second morning after the first treatment I was greeted by a dog that was sporting what turned out to be cartoon sized snowflakes of dry skin all over his back and rump area. I was able to remove them with much brushing and no complaints on Kings part. I was wondering if this was normal and will it continue for the duration of his treatment?

My other question is in regard to the thickened skin patches he has developed. Will these go away over time and what should I use to speed their disappearance?

Thank you again for all the knowledge you have shared with us here. You have saved King's life and me a lifetime of feeling guilty. I was losing all hope for finding a cure for him since I had tried everything that I could find and nothing but nothing had even acted like it was going to help. Your website was deemed to be my last search. I had made him suffer for so long and couldn't stand the thought of him being miserable any longer due to my inability to cure him and I have no money for the vet. So I had to find someway to get him help that I could afford. You really deserve so much more than a simple thank you. You saved my best friends life. If ever in anyway I can be of assistance to you please don't hesitate to ask. I am forever in debt to you.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/14/2015

Hey Penelope!

Did you brush your dog on a daily basis prior to treatment? I ask because I have experienced the cartoon like dandruff on a dog that had not had a bath in a very long time nor had he been brushed in ages; the skin flaked off and reminded me of oatmeal, and I brushed and brushed for days to get all the sloughed skin out of his coat. It could just be that the dip loosened the old skin and your dog is sloughing all his dead skin and will need a good daily brushing for the next week or so.

The thickened patches of skin sound like abraded skin that has been scratched for some time. You can apply a calendula cream or coconut oil twice daily or so to these areas to help soften the skin and promote healing.

One thing that I find helpful in keeping the itches away from my pack is alkalizing their drinking water with baking soda; I rotate this with Ted's Borax Protocol, so when we are not doing an alkalizing regime we are doing a Borax regime. Keeping the PH in balance and using the Borax to combat yeast is simple to do and cheap, and can provide great results.


Posted by Leeniemud (Jessieville, Ar) on 05/02/2015
5 out of 5 stars

I have been using Ted's method for 2 wks along w/nu-stock and ivomectrin shots and my dog Pokie has improved remarkedly well but his skin is very dry. when I bath him I scrub him w/a mit. I saw on the posts the things you can use to help w/dry skin but I don't have any of those on hand and unfortunately no funds at this time to buy them. is there anything you can recommend that I may have around the house that I can use on him to help w/his dry skin problem..thank you!

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/03/2015

Hey Leeniemud!

You can give your Pokie the spa treatment; massage olive oil into his coat and let him sit for 15 minutes, and then bath; do this inbetween mange treatment baths. Just do 1 shampoo after the oil treatment and towel really well - he will be oily, so towel well but do NOT get all the oil off; he will keep until the next bath/mange treatment.

I would also give him oils in his food - 1 teaspoon olive oil in his food am and pm; you can upgrade to higher quality oils like evening primrose oil or salmon oil, etc. -but in a pinch olive oil works well.

Replied by Leeniemud
Jessieville, Ar
06/22/2015

After treating my dog pokie now for 10 weeks using Ted's Mange Cure he was almost totally cured, fur grown back and all, then the mange travelled down to his paws about 2 weeks ago. I've tried soaking them and putting nu-stock all over them but the mange is very stubborn.

It now appears my other dog has gotten it in his paws. My Newbie is going for a skin scraping this week. What I believed was demodectic mange may be sarcoptic mange and I am heartbroken for him and wished I had taken pokie for a skin scraping. It's difficult when you are limited with funds. Hopefully it'll work out for the best.

My question is how long does pododermatitis mange take to cure? I read that it is difficult to treat.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
06/23/2015

Hey Leeniemud!

Ted's Mange remedy applies to both demodectic and sarcoptic mange mites, however the sarcoptic mange mites can be picked up from outside, so can reinfect your pets over and over.

Pododemidicosis typically occurs after a demodectic mange outbreak; it is not something that is spread from the feet of one dog to the feet of another dog - that sounds more like sarcoptic mange.

Please tell us what your vet finds out.

Replied by Leeniemud
Jessieville, Ar
06/25/2015
5 out of 5 stars

After taking Newbie to the vet his skin scrape came back negative for mites. He was diagnosed w/a skin infection and and is on antibiotics. As for the sore on his tail, it looks like some kind of bite. As for pokie, I will keep up w/the baths and dipping for a few more weeks and his paws look a little better. Thanx for the reply Theresa

Replied by Dru
Merced, Ca
08/09/2015

Missy my Shar Pei has had puppy mange since she was 8 weeks old. She is now 2 yrs old. She has been on all types of antibiotics & shampoos etc. Something called SMZ/TMP. He has even given her the new Bravecto which is $46 for just one dose. She has been scraped numerous times. I called her vet again yesterday & this next round of meds is going to be $247. I call her "my money pit". I just love her to death. Wouldn't know what to do without her. She is so sweet & funny, makes me laugh. Even with all she has gone thru. I'm on Soc Sec & have a limited amount of money. She is always scratching & chewing on herself. Her hair is all over the house. You can just pet her & the hair just falls out. So is anyone has any suggestions I would really love to hear them.

Replied by Diana
Il
08/18/2015

If you have olive oil, add a tablespoon with each meal, I also give my baby fish oil.

Replied by Tina
Saginaw, Tx
11/03/2015

I'm trying regular cooking oil, I just apply with cotton balls. I read about it on another site. It says it will kill the mites and stop the itching. So far she's not itching so we'll see.

Replied by Diamond
Ma.
01/11/2016

Probiotics are better for every one concerned, antibiotics and steroids are very abrasive to the body, we have illnesses because our immune system is very low, and by giving any one antibiotics makes matters worse.We are defeating our own purposes. The very best probiotics are grapefruit seed extract & dandelion root..Good Luck

Replied by Kirby G.
Birmingham
02/08/2016

I have a Shar-pei and a Rotty and have had an already long agonising journey with vets...meds...multiple diagnoses including being told its normal for shar-pei's to suffer! And home remedy's in between. Now I've purchased various supplements as the dogs symptoms started to re-appear after a few months on grainfree dry dogfood. I am about to start implementing any advice I've taken from this page and other notes I've collected and will post in future the results as I see them... I'm not a great communicator I rarely answer txts let alone write things on forums but seeing other people in my situation at wits end I felt I had to commit myself to share anything that may help anyone else.


Posted by Wsucram15 (Baltimore, Md) on 04/27/2015

II'm just starting Ted's peroxide and borax treatment and I have the dosage. I do see some relief on my Hope's skin after one bath and treatment by just her anxiety level dropping. She has really torn up her skin for what I thought were allergies and I am still not sure, however in looking at some of the pictures on this site, she may have mange because she is losing hair.

I only really posted this because I am:

A) trying this out and saw an improvement in my dogs stress level,

B) I can unfortunately personally attest to the wonders of NEEM and borax (I use the old time laundry soap). I am a nature photographer and have had skin problems my doctor had no actual diagnosis for. Neem is only to soothe and act as an antifungal, Tee tree oil is also good as an anti - bacterial. I HIGHLY recommend Diatomaceous Earth (food grade)in your pets food. I just started my girl on it. I have it because I use it. The benefits for skin and bones is great.

I can tell you this..I dont suffer from skin issues anymore. My dog won't either once I figure out how to balance all of this..its just about your pets balance and using natural remedies to help them.

Replied by Wendy
London
05/09/2015

Hi there, noticed you use DE, how much do you give your dog? I have a JRT 7kg 11mths old. Thanks


Posted by Michael (Mississippi) on 03/17/2015
5 out of 5 stars

I have a Yorkie/Pom mix that was scratching all the time and had a scabby balding patch on her back .. I used Ted's mange mix a couple of times, but did not really follow through with it. (She hates baths). finally I had enough, bathed her in the recommended mixture once and left a spray bottle full. I would spray her down every couple of days, mainly on the affected area.. This cured my baby.. thanks so much ..


Posted by Lavan (Houston, TX) on 03/16/2015
4 out of 5 stars

Hi, Till now I have tried this borax treatment twice with 3 days interval and I see some improvement in my dog. However my dog's itching and biting at his paws and thighs doesn't seem to have stopped (also the red spots on his skin). If anybody could answer my questions as below:

1. What is the duration of the applications I should follow (confused by multiple users having it differently)

2. What can I do additionally to relieve my dog of his skin itchiness while continuing with the borax treatment. Maybe the skin spots are forming by his biting his skin.

Thanks everyone for sharing this treatment info. Like other users I have had to take my dog (1 yr old Pitbull mix) to the vet multiple times for demodectic mange and have tried ivermectin, lime sulphur dips, mitaban dips (mitaban has been effective but seems to come back after 2 weeks) but everything has been a temporary relief for him till now (since the last 8 months). I have also put him on grain free diet just to rule out any allergies.

Replied by Tmay
Ga., US
04/17/2015

My dog will not stand for baths & I have to use a spray bottle. If you are not cleaning the dog's crate, kennel or bedding he will just reinfect himself/herself. Also, outdoor napping areas need to be dusted with DE powder. (All natural diatomes buy at feed & seed supply stores for $25/50lb bag.)

If you bath the dog & use the solution then dry him with a towel you have rubbed all the effective-ness off. He must air dry or go roll in his bedding to dry off. Some people have seen results in small breeds in days. Others who may not saturate a large breed might take weeks to see results. Other variables are how dense they made "their" product. Or How bad was their dog's infection in the first place. Is the infected dog secluded or does he run with other infected animals? With all of those variables no one could say: This WILL heal every dog in three weeks.

It works. Spray bottle works best for me to saturate because my dog is as big as I am & hates the tub. Also, you can use benadryl for itching or meclazine (over the counter motion sickness pill) for itching.

Replied by Odette
Edmonton, Ab
12/10/2015

Hi Lavan - I read your post with some interest.

If I may make a suggestion - check your "grain free" food. If it has potato or sweet potato it may be exacerbating the problem. I found out that these ingredients are simple starches that convert directly to sugar - an environment that yeast just loves to thrive in. I have eliminated all simple starches from my dog's diet and almost immediately saw improvement. It's not the end of the road, but it will help improve your pet's issues. You will most likely have to treat the yeast issues in his system as well. And that will take time. From what I've read (but haven't tried as yet) and heard glowing reviews about was enzymes, flora, etc. that is needed to clear up the excess yeast in your pet's internal system. Other methods you may want to try, and are cheaper, is to add some probiotic to the food you feed your pet. Like natural yogurt, or there are enzymes you can buy at the local pet store, but I have no knowledge of how effective they might be.

Replied by Diamond
Ma.
01/11/2016

Better But Not Cured;

It's best if you do your dog every two or three days then slack off a day or two & see how he reacts, but do not stop the treatments. I did my dogs every other week as it appeared they were not half as bad as the dogs I see in here, how-ever I found these mites were being buried under my dogs skin, I gave them Teds treatments for six to eight weeks with a rest period in-between, one of my older dogs had it worse so I bathed her more often, then I found this to help also, diatomaceous earth(food grade) just put the powder all over as he/she will allow and all should be pretty good. My dog is not digging her skin bloody raw, she has slowed down on her scratching. Good Luck.


Posted by Kimberly (Cattaraugus, Ny) on 03/08/2015
5 out of 5 stars

The borax, h202, and water saved my rescue dog Cleo Marie, after countless trips to the vet and injections of lvermectin that were ineffective! Thanks Ted!!!!! My Rot/black lab is not doing the sit and spin anymore!


Posted by Lissette (Dallas, Tx) on 03/07/2015
5 out of 5 stars

Hi everyone. First I want to say: THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU ALL for this website. Ted, you are the man!!! I normally don't write reviews/post, but this is more than deserving. My Scottish Terrier Wallace (2 y/o) has been suffering from skin problems for MONTHS. His pain has been agonizing to him and to me. I suspected a skin parasite a while back after doing some research on line. Two different vets diagnosed Wallace with skin allergies. One sold me a $40 small spray that was supposed to calm things down, but it only delayed the scratching process for 2-3mins. Wallace suffered so much from this... He would scratch CONSTANTLY/NON-STOP at all time even throughout the night unable to sleep. It would break my heart... There would be times I would wake up at 2am and he would be awake scratching himself. It seemed things got worse on his skin after baths (even though we were using "gentle" and medicated shampoos. At first the scratching was just that, but throughout the weeks it escalated into mutilating himself, biting/scratching to the point of severe hot spots with bleeding/hair loss. I started noticing some scabs and redness on his skin particularly his back, neck, head and shoulder area. He also had some (not much) on his belly.

After reading blogs in this God-sent website I realized the symptoms and descriptions from other people pointed at skin parasites like Scabies. We have two other dogs and they seem to be unaffected so I'm not sure what's going on there. All our dogs are inside dogs but only Wallace was affected... People talked about diets so much, but we cook for our dogs and supplement his diet with Professional formula of the Missing Link. Recently we have been giving them plain greek yogurt with penut butter/chia seeds and flax seed oil. (they love it). However, for many months they have been getting vitamin E and Fish oil supplements yet the skin problem in Wallace was still there...

Anyways, I was treating this problem with all kinds of topical oils (avocado, pure vitamin E, coconut oil, jojoba oil), itch-relievers, and nothing worked until last night. I ordered the supplies from amazon after reading several opinions in this forum. This is what I did: I wetted Wallace with warm water, then I applied a Tea Tree Oil (Melaleuca) shampoo + orange oil. I massaged that into his skin then I rinsed it off with Ted's Fantastic Miracle Borax Solution (1L water: 0.5L hydrogen peroxide: 3 tablespoons of Borax). I made him a total of 3 L of solution. after that I rinsed it off with warm water. I toweled him dry and just observed.... THE ITCHING WAS GONE!!! Even Wallace seemed surprised by it bc I think since this itching has been going on for so long, he turned like he was going to bite his back but then he realized it wasn't itching. He slept like a baby. I'm so grateful.... Our lives are blessed by this miracle remedy<3 <3 I will keep doing this 3 times per week until everything is gone. Thank you all so much.

@ Ted: I can't thank you enough. God bless you for sharing this with the rest of us.!!! Also, I want to share that before I did the Borax/hydrogen peroxide bath, I bathed Wallace with Tea Tree oil shampo and pure tea tree oil on his skin. that seemed to help him quite a bit more than the other stuff I've used before, but it was not until last night that I saw a breakthrough. Thank you all <3


Posted by Nugent99 (Australia) on 03/02/2015

Hi Ted, my dog has been diagnosed with the nasty mange mite and through your remedy is starting to feel much better. My indoor cat has also started to show symptoms of hair loss and weight loss. Please tell me how to dip wash her without a trip to emergency for me. I have been rubbing a cloth over her with the solution and wondering if this is enough.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
03/03/2015

Hey Nugent99!

Not Ted here, but in case he doesn't visit this thread I am offering advice.

You do not say which mange mite your dog has - demodectic or sarcoptic; I will assume demodectic as your vet would have advised you of the highly contagious nature of sarcoptic mange. Thus if your dog has demodectic mange mites you and your cat have a 99.99999999% chance of contracting them. I really doubt your cat is suffering the same affliction as your dog. Weight loss is not a typical symptom of demodectic mange - however it is the sign of other disease conditions such as diabetes and renal disease. My advice to you is to take your cat to your vet - do it now before it is an emergency. If you wait until it becomes an emergency it will be a far more expensive bill, and your options will be drastically limited- JMHO.

Good luck with your kitty and please keep us posted on your dog.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
03/03/2015

Gah! I meant to post you have a next to zero percent chance of contracting demodectic mange - not you have a near 100% chance of contracting demdex. Sorry for the error!

Replied by Pat
Fl.
10/21/2015

With the borax, and h2o2 do I add water to fill up the gallon?

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
10/23/2015

Hello Pat!

You don't add water to fill up the gallon; that is going to dilute your solution too much and will skew and delay your results.

You start by mixing up 1 batch per the directions and then if one batch isn't going to cover the amount of dog you have, you make up another batch which will fill the gallon jug.

So the formula again:

Borax laundry booster - the plain stuff with NO scent.
1 -16 oz bottle of 3% hydrogen peroxide

I get both of these from the grocery store.

Process:
Empty hydrogen peroxide into larger bottle - I use an empty 1 gallon vinegar jug. Add to this 32 oz filtered or distilled water - I just refill the hydrogen peroxide bottle twice - and dump into the jug. What this does is change your 3% hydrogen peroxide into 1% hydrogen peroxide.

Next add 1 cup of the borax crystals and shake. There should be some undissolved crystals in the mixed solution - this is just right. If this isn't enough solution to fully saturate your pet, make a second batch and add to the jug so you have enough solution at the start of the process to fully saturate your pet.


Posted by Roze (Tulsa, Ok) on 02/11/2015
4 out of 5 stars

I have been using Ted's Mange Treatment and I have seen great improvement on several occasions. I have even thought I have had a cure. My poor fur baby is an older dog and it seems to always come back. She does not seem to be in any discomfort, no Pain or Itching. Just bumps and spots of hair loss.

This last time when the bumps returned she had been in fabulous shape for about a month. I was so happy.

I got up one morning and all was fine and that night I could see bumps and lots of them. I thought about all the natural treatments out there and came up with a plan.

I got up the next morning and began the routine that I have been following now for a week and a half.

I bath her with Benzoyl Peroxide on Saturday and after lathering her up I leave it sit on her for 5 minutes. It is pretty strong and drying so, then the next day is an off day. Monday I give her ACV rinse and thoroughly soak her and not use a towel to dry her. Tuesday is the Peroxide/Borax day. Wednesday is an off day. Thursday and Friday she gets ACV soak down.

I have seen this most recent round on her break down and such a vast improvement over prior episodes and this time there is speed to visible improvement. I will continue with this schedule until all is cleared up and then for 30-45 days after I see complete healing.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/12/2015

Hey Roze!

Demodectic mange is typically a puppy affliction and when seen in mature or senior animals is typically associated with another underlying condition, ie hypothyroid, cancer, etc.

From what you describe it sounds as if your dog has a skin allergy or has hives due to an allergic reaction to something - be it food, contact or airborne allergy.

Ways to fight allergies might be oral supplementation with colostrum to build the immune system, along with yucca or quercetin to reduce inflamation; these supplements need time to work so you may have to feed ongoing and it may take 6 weeks to see results.

Another approach might be alkalizing your dog's drinking water; 1 teaspoon baking soda to 1 quart of water is a typical starting dose.

Because you are getting results with your aggressive bathing regime once you have achieved the healing you are after, for NEXT TIME consider using Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph dip at the first onset of the hives and see if just using that does the trick.

Replied by Diamond
Ma.
01/11/2016

Try diatomaceous earth (food grade) It's a dry powder and works great on my two dogs.I also changed their diets over to meats(cooked) rice & veggies for approx. a week then I use different meat and un-sweetened oatmeal(needs to be cooked) and veggies.


Posted by Shawna (Newberg, Or) on 02/06/2015
5 out of 5 stars

We rescued a puppy this last summer, aside from the MANY visits to the VET because of kennel cough she then got Mange, fairly localized to neck and chest area. The Vet had me using the standard Ivermectin, but even after 5 months it was not doing anything, I then added Neem oil, which helped but then I found Ted's CURE. IT IS AMAZING!!!!!! . I have only been using it about 1 month and her mange is all but gone.Of course I will continue to use it for a while but I was amazed at the $10 I spent vs the $100's I had spent at the vet on meds that gave horrible side effects and didn't work.

Thank you so much.


Posted by Keith (Millstone Twp, Nj) on 01/29/2015

Hello, I have a dog ~7 months old. We have been dealing with demodectic mange for a few months. It started out just around his eyes it looked like it was gone and then it exploded all over his body. He now has it everywhere, he has scabs, red bumps and loss of hair everywhere. He is scratching and licking a lot. I have religiously been using the borax/peroxide solution for a week. Can you tell me what to look for if this is working? Do you know how long until I see some improvement? His chin is so raw I'm worried about infection. Thank you

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/30/2015

Hey Keith!

The *signs* that the remedy is working is a relaxed and happy dog. When I have dipped my dogs -either to treat for mange or as a 'go to first' dipping solution for dogs with skin issues, my dogs are always happy and energetic after a dip, and they are not itchy.

From what you describe it sounds like your dog has a secondary skin infection going on, particularly as you have been using the dip for a week now and have no obvious improved results.

If this were my dog I would head to the vet and get a prescription of antibiotics to deal with the staph infection that is going on. If that is out of the question, then I would consider Ted's Borax protocol for pets to fight the yeast from the inside out, as well as Ted's Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy to knock down the infection on the skin topically.

I would next consider the diet; if the brand you are feeding has grains in it, it is time to change the diet to a grain free brand.

Since you have been dealing with this for several months, keep in mind it will take time for your dog to heal. When I have treated generalized demodex in a puppy of similar age it took 12 weeks to fully resolve- and this without complications from a secondary skin infection.

You can help your dog's immune system by adding vitamin C to the diet, along with echinacea or golden seal to help fight infection. Supplementing Evening Primrose Oil in the kibble may help with dry skin. OTC products such as Neosporin may help with the raw chin.

If there is a chance that this is sarcoptic mange rather than demodex, you will also need to keep his bedding and living area sanitized regularly to prevent reinfection.

Please keep us posted!

Replied by Keith
Millstone Twp, NJ
01/31/2015

Hi, Thank you for your response. You all are awesome...really. Can you tell me or direct me to the recipe for the anti-fungal/anti-staph remedy? I believe the borax/peroxide may be helping because I have noticed after giving my pup the bath, he looks happy and zips around the house!

I have been working with a homeopathic vet who has been trying remedies of sulfur and silca, but not sure they are working. We have currently stopped remedies. Also, Zeus (my pup) is on a raw diet and taking a Number of vitamins and oils. I hesitate to use antibiotics because it is thought that prescription drugs Zeus took for worms, when he was very young, and vaccines, is what got us here in the first place....weakened immune system.

So, I think I will continue the borax/perioxide baths every other day and borax in his drinking water. The anti-fungal...paste (if I can find the recipe) Neosporin on his chin and coconut oil or castor oil on his dry skin until I see some major improvement. Does that sound right?

Again thank you for all your help. What a valuable resource you all are. Best, k

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/31/2015

Hey Keith!

My internet connection is terrible right now else I would find the Anti-fungal/Anti-staph remedy for you, but if you just do a search for it, or look at 'recent pet posts' and just scroll down and flip back a few pages it is plastered everywhere :-)

In your shoes I would NOT use the castor oil on the chin; if you strongly feel it is indicated use it sparingly as I find it as strong as pure tea tree oil.

The sulpher and silica may be working, but keep in mind that the mites have a certain life cycle so you will need to treat long term no matter the route.

If you are working with a holistic vet then keep them informed of your results; my experience with the mange remedy is that the dogs always leave the tub happy, and that the skin can appear worse before it gets better. 1 dip every other day for a total of 3 dips the first week should be enough - and then once per week thereafter for 12 weeks should do it. Dipping more often may dry out the skin. The anti-fungal/anti-staph remedy can be applied to affected areas on days that you do not dip with the mange remedy - JMHO.

Replied by Keith
Millstone Township, Nj
02/10/2015

Hello again, I have posted before about my dog Zeus who has demodectic mange and skin infection. I have been using the mange solution and have added the anti-fungal/staph solution to the mix. My first question is if I do the anti fungal dip, does that work on the mange as well as the infection? Also, he has now licked his paw raw and limping on it. Any ideas what to put on it. I have tried Neem oil and coconut which aren't working. I'm also using Neosporin. I'm giving him antibiotics too (with lots of probiotics)

His hair growth has not started...he looks just awful. Patience is not my strong suit. Any suggestions? Thank you.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/11/2015

Hey Keith!

Your first post was 1/29 and you had been attempting to home treat for a few months; have you seen *any* improvement after using Ted's remedy? Often times bad cases appear to get much worse due to a rapid die off of the mites, but then there is an uptick and things clearly improve- have you seen any signs of improvement/lack of itching/healing of the red bumps?

IMHO if you have not seen any kind of improvement it might be time to throw in the towel and use the Ivermectin approach. While this is not my first approach, when you have super resistant mites I would not hesitate to go this route.

Are you dosing the antibiotics under the guidance of your vet?

You might find slathering the paw with topical antibiotic and wrapping it in gauze and then put a human sock over the paw, and a few inches of duct tape to secure the sock in place [careful not to bind or get too tight] and leaving that on for several hours under observation - or overnight if your dog won't chew the bandage off - might give the paw the break from licking that it needs to get some healing done. If that didn't do it I would consult my vet.

You may find Ted's borax protocol helpful to get a leg up on the internal yeast:

Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 12/12/2014

"The borax dose is the same regardless of the weight of dogs. In the end small dogs drink less than large dogs. The only difference is the sex of dogs which the female dog requires half the dosages male dogs.

So a female dog is always 1/8 teaspoon per liter dose. And male dogs is 1/4 teaspoon per liter water. Weight is irrelevant.

Timing:
Borax dosage for 1 week. Then 1/2 dosage in week 2. Stop for 1 week. Resume.

or

Borax dosage for 4 days, then no borax/water for 3 to 4 days. Continue on/off schedule until ailment clears."

You can do the mange dip - and by this time you should only be doing 1 dip per week - and then follow up with the staph remedy in a spritzer bottle to spot treat affected areas without having to dip the entire dog.

Demodex dogs above all else need good groceries and supplements for immune support. Make sure you are not feeding a grocery store brand high in grains and food dyes and sugar. You might find supplementing with colostrum of additional benefit, along with vitamin C and echinacea/golden seal - discuss with your holistic vet.

Lastly, consider a high quality lavendar essential oil - dilute with pure water and put in a spritzer bottle to both spritz the skin for calming, and for the soothing effects from inhaling the fragrant air.

Replied by Om
Hope, Bc Canada
02/11/2015
3 out of 5 stars

Worked Temporarily

Hello Keith

If me, and I have used it with success is

1 Ted's Mange Treatment

2 Ted's anti staph solution for spraying

3 ACV on wash cloth improving the ph

4 The best : UT = your own best body blue print medicine.

5 Last NOT least, Turmeric. Dry powder

Turmeric is a natural anti biotic, excellent for skin and new blood which has largely healed my big dog's entire back which was bloody and infected. My belief is that allopathic antibiotics become precurser for candida and then cancer

My big dog had red mange and I used an essential orange oil household cleaner, spraying. It worked super well. Also, it kills fleas and keeps the skin soft.

ACV as a spray kills fleas well and you can soon see them dead all over which I did not suspect at first. But one needs to spray this at least twice a day, not so with TIKO orange spray which I think is the best but I like to use a multi pronged approach. And ACV is important as it changes the skin ph. You dilute ACV as the dog can handle.

The very best is which people shun but believe me, it is a divine remedy which is God's gift, used all over the world. On him I have used mine and he liked that. But I want to find a long handled 2nd hand pot to take his which is best. But both work. Fresh urine is sterile and does not have an odour. It heals every thing and you can research that.

I still have mites. The last lot from a garment at a big store in Canada. I have soaked a soft terry cloth and used fresh "Manava Mutra" for a month and keep at it as there is far less problem. Also :Shivambhu" as it is called in India, is the answer to all human and animal troubles, cleaning the aura which holds the roots of diseases physically and mentally. Moreover the skin will glow and be beautiful.

Anyway, this is my way and I wish you both all the best success. Namaste Om

Replied by Keith
Millstone Township, NJ
02/18/2015

This is my Third post regarding Zeus with the mange. I have been religiously following Ted's Mange Remedy and on off days Ted's anti-fungal/staph remedy. Neither seem to be stopping the spread of his hair loss and scaley, scabby skin. Sometimes it looks as if it's getting under control then the redness and hairloss appear again. He had one paw he licked raw now it's both paws. They are bright red with little fur and seem very painful. The hair loss is moving up his leg. Is this all mange or am I dealing with something else too?

He is on a raw veggie, lightly steamed meat and fish diet, tripe too, With various oils added to his food including coconut oil and coconut water. He is taking probiotics, multivitamins, immune boosters, enzymes, vitamin c. He also did 5 days of antibiotics for his infection. I've also added Borax to his water and recently ACV. NOTHING seems to be working. I've applied cocunut oil to his fur, Neoosporin to his cuts from scratching. ACV I recently have started spraying him

This has been going on since before Thanksgiving. I did see some improvement for about a week and it started off much "milder" then it is now.

He also has been to the vet and is going again tomorrow. What am I missing?

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/19/2015

Hey Keith!

I feel your frustration :-(

At this point I have to question if you got the diagnosis of demodex from your vet; did they do a scraping to confirm? Demodex mites are difficult to find in a healthy dog - you literally have to put the dog in a blender and then spin the results in a centerfuge to find mites in a healthy dog. In a dog dealing with demodex mite overgrowth due to health complications, the mites are easier to find on a simple scrape. Lots of times a dog with demodex will develop black-head type pimples- this before they get really bad. Did Zeus have the black-head pimples - or has it always been just itching and scales and hair loss?

From this end of the keyboard it sounds as if you are either dealing with a very resistant strain of demodex mite - which is possible, OR you are dealing with atopic dermatitis, which is a genetic disease that shows up right around 6 months of age, can be linked to seasonal allergy season, and just keeps getting worse each year.

I just had a friend PTS her French bulldog due to atopic dermatitis - he was only 6 years old in a breed that lives 8+ years. The allergies came on each spring, then spring and mid-winter during thaws, and then it was constant. Steroid shots were effective the first few years, but then they became a constant and she simply could not keep up with the constant bathing and the dog was miserable. I wish I had had a chance to work on this dog, but I respect her choice as the dog's owner and caretaker that she made the best decision.

Discuss these possibilities with your vet. The only additional supplements I can see that might apply are colostrum - an immune builder, and quercetin and/or yucca for inflamation.

If this were my dog I would bite the bullet and get the steroid shot; this will break the cycle of itching and give the skin a chance to heal. The steroid shot wears off 4-6 weeks, and the initial reaction to the shot is usually panting when it is not warm [think lady going through menopause! ] and then increased thirst and appetite. Some do not like these reactions at all, but it is just what the shot does, and I have found it helpful in getting on top of an allergy break out. You can stop the mange remedy dips and just use the staph treatment in a spritz bottle for the hot spots. Once the skin is calm and healing I would continue with the health and immune supplements and then try to figure out what is causing the flare ups, and then come up with a plan to nip any flare ups in the bud when they first appear.

If your vet strongly feels it is NOT atophy, and the feeling is still demodex, then Ivermectin may apply - along with several other miticides your vet may recommend. I would avoid mitaban dips - although vets I respect swear by them I just can't see treating my dog with a chemical I need to wear gloves to apply.

Read up on atopic dermatitis:

http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/integumentary_system/atopic_dermatitis/canine_atopic_dermatitis.html

Please report back!

Replied by Monamur
Krakow
04/21/2015

Hi everyone,

I a new here and need some help please.

I have a black pug Hugo who is 3 years old and started having dandruff and loads of it about a month ago. I changed the shampoo after a vet visit to a higher sensitive skin approach and still the dandruff remained and actually got a lot worse. He does not have any hair missing yet and also no actual bloody areas (thank God!! ), but he has small bumps on his head and neck which he scratches constantly. I went back to the vet and they took a scraping as based on my research and the causes of dandruff are several including some mites. They said he is not presenting these so just keep bathing him which, sadly, I did only to actually make things worse for Hugo ( I used to bathe him once a month and we got to even twice a week! ). I came across this treatment and since, I live in Poland with no Polish language skills, I was not able to find ACV, borax or the peroxide, only ACV separately: apple cider and apple vinegar. After some research I mixed the two and I use a cloth to wash him down and have done so for the last three days. He is happier a bit and the scratching diminished but still there. Same with the dandruff. Once I wash him down they both go away, however back by morning... I went to another vet to ask for a more thorough mite investigation and will have the results next week, however if anyone can help, both Hugo and I will remain forever grateful.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
04/22/2015

Hey Monamur!

There are two main types of mites in dogs - demodextic and sarcoptic. Demodex mites are typically associated with puppies under a year of age, and of older dogs that have a serious health issue. Demodex is not contagious, but sarcoptic mange IS - both to dogs and to humans. Sarcoptic mange mites can be picked up from wildlife - by the animals themselves, or from their nesting areas and even poop. So for example if your pug frequents bunny nests, catches and eats bunnies or rolls in bunny poop, then he may have been exposed to sarcoptic mites.

What can be more often confused as mites and is more common are fleas; I would think if your dog had fleas you would find them in your frequent baths, however.

The bumps on the back of the head to me sound like allergy hives. You might try adding a good sprinkle of turmeric to your boy's food am and pm to help with the inflammation associated with allergies. The addition of baking soda to his drinking water may also prove helpful by alkalizing his system and balancing his PH.

If you are online you can access Polish language translators to help with the vocabulary to see if you can get the borax et all you are looking for:

http://imtranslator.net/translation/english/to-polish/translation/

I would discontinue mixing the cider into the vinegar and just use the vinegar as it is. If rinsing your spritzing your boy with the vinegar is providing relief, continue to do so to help keep the itching at bay.

Part of stopping the itching is identifying the trigger - is he reacting to pollens in the air, or dust or dirt or eating a certain food? If you can identify the trigger and avoid it, this will help. Some folks use OTC allergy meds with good effect - something to consider.

Also, it never hurts to give your dog a thorough brushing. Brushing will remove the dandruff, stimulate the skin and distribute the natural oils in the coat. Brush regularly to monitor the dandruff for improvement. Consider adding oils to Hugo's diet to improve dry skin.

Please report back what the vet finds out about mites!


Posted by Chris (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia) on 01/12/2015

We rescued a Great Dane who was abandoned tied to a lamp post with tick infestation and mange. She was also severely malnourished.The vet gave her an injection at the humane society to remove the ticks and shortly after the mange got worse, her whole body erupted in sores and lost all her fur with bleeding from the sores we tried everything she had treatment from the vet antibiotics, injections anti fungal soap, we tried coconut oil, aloe vera and yoghurt until we found borax which is not commonly available here. It is not easy to have enough solution to soak a Great Dane so we soaked her paws first in a small bucket as well as her ears and tail and finally use a small towel to sponge the solution on, initially we do find it twice a week which healed the bleeding sores in over a week and susequently in a month her fur started to grow back. I tapered the treatment to once a week after 2 months and after 3 months I stopped the treatment and the lesions started reappearing even though she is now receiving oral vitamins and is of normal weight. My question is does anyone have any experience as to how long they used the solution for with severe mange ?

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/13/2015

Hey Chris!

If you are dealing with sarcoptic mange mites, then unless and until you can treat the entire dog you cannot obtain a full cure. Given that borax is hard to come by in your area, consider treating your dog for mange with powdered flower of sulpher mixed with coconut oil. The mange mite has a 3 week life span, and treatment - provided you can treat the entire dog each and every treatment - should be three times the first week, followed by once per week thereafter for a 12 week time span.

When dealing with sarcoptic mange you have to treat the entire house -and in particular the areas where your dog hangs out - to prevent your dog from becoming contaminated again [which sounds like what is going on ].

You may find the little borax you have put to better use in the water to help fight infection from the inside out.


Posted by Kristint (St Paul, MN) on 12/27/2014
5 out of 5 stars

Demodectic mange: We've been treating our new to us dog Louie with the Ted's Mange Treatment and have to say are very pleased with the results after about 5 treatments.

I recently started adding a bit of coconut oil, both to work as a carrier oil to have the treatment solution more deeply penetrate the skin, as well as to add some moisturizing effects as I'm concerned about the effects of such frequent bathing drying out the skin (and we live in MN with cold dry air). I also added a bit of neem to the solution. In between treatments with Ted's solution, we've been putting diluted neem on the visible spots. Additionally we've been brushing his fur daily using a Zoom Broom, and brushing his teeth. Louie's kibble is already grain free and fairly high quality (can't quite afford the whole raw food diet thing). He's been getting 2x daily fish oil, and we also added a canine formulary nutritional supplement with pre and pro-biotics.

My question is how long to keep doing 2x weekly baths, and how to taper off. It seems to be working, but I am concerned about the drying effects on his skin. My gut is telling me that it is time to cut back to 1x weekly, seeing how he does, and if it still seems to be improving, then to cut back to 1x ~10 days, and keep cutting back from there, ie. 2 wks, monthly, quarterly? I haven't really been able to find guidelines for how to taper and when to stop all together.

I look forward to your feedback. Thank you.

Replied by Janet
St Charles, Mo
01/08/2015

Do we need to use a collar for this remedy?

Replied by Briana
Faribault, Minnesota
02/18/2015

Hello, I saw your post on how you live in MN and were wondering what you did for the dry skin as I live in minnesota also and I have a 4 month old German shorthair mix and she got it. I haven't done this treatment yet as I am scared about her licking herself after the fact even if its dry? I would really appriciate your response!

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
02/19/2015

Hey Briana!

You can give your dog Evening Primrose oil - 1 capsule in the food am and pm to help with the dry skin. You can also use a moisturizing shampoo on alternate days from the mange dip.

I have used the mange dip many times and my dogs have never had any issues with licking the remedy up!

Replied by Linda
Connecticut
05/04/2015

I am going to try the Peroxide/Borax on my 6month old yorkie, who has been suffering on/off for since Christmas w/this condition. Vet gave her Ivermecin after scraping, but I am not happy with the toxic side affects. My question is, she loves to lick the water off after bathing, is the peroxide/borax solution safe for her to ingest? Also, her eyes are a mess and is currently on anti-biotics, can I gently apply with a cotton ball around the eye area?

Thank you so much for all your advice.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
05/05/2015

Hey Linda!

The borax solution is not toxic and is safe for your dog to lick and to use around the face and eyes.


Posted by Neil (Cleveland, Oh.) on 12/24/2014
5 out of 5 stars

i started treating my dog (a couple year old rhodesian ridgeback mix) a couple days ago using Teds H2O2 and borax solution. I did a 2nd dip last night and am all ready seeing the remedy do its magic. I mixed up about 1 gallon of water with 1% hydrogen peroxide and about a 1/2 cup of borax. the dog doesnt like baths but didnt object too much although he definitely wanted to get out of the tub asap. my dog has a loss of hair on her rear end mostly and her skin looked blackened in areas on her belly and spots on her back. before dipping the dog I was very carefully examining her skin using my thumb and moving it slowly across the hairs on her side when I 1st spotted one of the nasty critters! They are very tiny about the size of the head of a straight pin maybe smaller and black. so I know she has sarcoptic mange and I have faith that the treatment will work and I will post back later. as regards using hydrogen peroxide I have detoxed my system of heavy metals using 35% food grade H2O2. I started out using one drop mixed with about 4-6 ounces of distilled water increasing 1 drop per day up to 24 drops mixed with the distilled water at a rate of 2X per day. once at 24 drops I decreased 1 drop per day down to 0 drops after 24 days. you can also do a detox regimen alternating the H2O2 with MSM (the active ingredient in DMSO). as in one day use the H2O2 and the next day use MSM following instructions on a heavy metal detox web site using natural cures.

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
12/24/2014

Hey Neil!

I have used the remedy many times and it is a winner for sure!

I do have to say, it sounds like you are dealing with fleas; I say this because both sarcoptic mange mites and demodectic mange mites can only be seen with a microscope. Fleas, on the other hand, are about the size of a pin head and black, and due to the areas they feed on - tail end - usually causes hair loss on the rump due to the dog chewing its skin to scratch the itch.

There is no harm in continuing using Ted's remedy, but you may have better luck using it at the correct strength; 48 oz of a 1% solution of hydrogen peroxide takes about 1 heaping cup of borax, so IMHO you are using way too little borax. Also it sounds as if you are using food grade H2O2, which the dime store variety will work just fine for the skin dip; the brown bottle is a 3% solution, so just dump it into the gallon jug and fill up the empty brown bottle twice to get 48oz of a 1% solution - and then just add your cup of borax.

Another thing to consider is a flea trap. All you need is a small desk lamp, place it on the floor in the dog's area and place a white plate under the lamp. Add water mixed with dish soap and turn the light on at night, then check for black specks in the morning. Move the trap from room to room to quickly clear out the fleas.

Good luck!

Replied by Kristint
Stpaul
12/27/2014

Glad to find this remedy for demodectic mange. And while fleas have not been an issue for us (knock on wood) I will keep the flea trap in mind. thanks y'all.

Replied by Kitty
Chapala, Mexico
01/04/2015

Have 7 rescues. 2 Shar pei (rescued for 25 yrs.), 4 Chihuahuas & xoloitzquintle. 7th is less than 1 lb. Chihuahua who I grabbed because she was sooo weak and ill with sarcoptic mange that she would have died. Vet is treating with Frontline spray 1x week. I'm using all the natural recipes, one every few hours on the 5-7th day out. Others are itching a bit, soo hard to isolate. I've put on their drops. I only had advantix which is not the premier drug for treatment. I'll get Revolution if I can get it here and treat them again in 1.5-2 wks. Am using naturals on them also. blah, blah. I can't keep washing everything. It has been a little chilly here 68 now so things don't get dry well. I have been putting on a heating pad in the babies bed. I'm wondering if that heat will kill the mites and if I turn my electric blanket on high and leave it for a few hours, if it might kill them? Anybody have thoughts? I really can't afford the electric bills from heating or washing but could move the heating pad around to everyones' bed too. Please help, thanks!

Replied by Theresa
Mpls., Mn
01/04/2015

Hey Kitty!

Do NOT turn up your heating pad in an attempt to kill mites - it won't work, and blah, blah - you will burn your house down [seriously].

You might consider diatomaceous earth spread liberally around your house and in the pet areas, and on the pets as well; avoid inhaling and getting into eyes and mucous membranes, and if applied to the pets make sure you work it down to the skin.



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